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The Cowboys "Little Board" And A Pre-Draft Mock

When I embarked upon a series of posts in which I took a closer look at the players the Cowboys brought to Valley Ranch for interviews, I noted that, in recent years, Dallas has chosen multiple players who have shown up on these rosters. Indeed, in a recent post, O.C.C. noted the strong correlation between the players the Cowboys have invited to the Ranch in recent years and who has ended up wearing the star; other than DeMarcus Ware, for example, every one of Dallas's top selections (i.e., Jason Williams in 2009) since 2005 has been of their Valley Ranch invitees.

Think about it: if we can take last year's leaked draft board as a reliable model, the Cowboys tend to whittle down the 450 or so eligible draftees to 130-150 names that adorn their draft board. If we assume that they are legitimately interested in the 35 to 40 players who have visited the Ranch, therefore, we know about 25% of the players on the Cowboys' board. That's some good information to work with.

In addition, by looking at which positions receive the most invitations, we can get a better idea about which positions the Dallas braintrust is honing in on. In 2008, a total of eight corners and five running backs came to visit--and the Cowboys came away with two of each. In 2009, it was linebackers--Jason Williams was an at-large invitee and Stephen Hodge came for "Dallas Day." How can this knowledge help us get a handle on what to expect from the 2011 draft? A neat little chart, some wild speculation and a mock after the jump...

Star-divide

So, what do we make of the 2010 list? If you've noticed, I have concluded each of my draft profile pieces with an educated guesstimate of where we should slot each player. After assuming that Sean Lee was a fourth-rounder last year, I am aware that these almost certainly fail to cohere with where the Cowboys have graded them. Nevertheless, by gathering the invitees together on a pre-draft "little board," some very clear patterns begin to emerge. Here's the board (with links to all of the profile posts that have been published thus far, should you wish to revisit them):

OFFENSE
Pos Round 1 Round 1
(trade down)
Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7
OT Tyron Smith
Nate Solder
Anthony Castonzo
Gabe Carimi*
Derek Sherrod
OG Danny Watkins** Will Rackley DeMarcus Love
OC Mike Pouncey

Jake Kirkpatrick
WR Jon Baldwin Edmund Gates Cecil Shorts Andre Holmes
Jimmy Young
DEFENSE
Pos Round 1 Round 1
(trade down)
Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7
RB DeMarco Murray Bilal Powell Stevan Ridley Phillip Tanner
DT Kenrick Ellis Ian Williams
DE J.J. Watt Christian Ballard
ILB

Kelvin Sheppard Nate Irving Greg Lloyd
OLB?


Bruce Carter
Martez WIlson




CB Prince Amukamara Aaron Williams Brandon Burton
Johnny Patrick
Shareece Wright Korey Lindsey
SS Eric Hagg Da'Norris Searcy
FS Rahim Moore Johnathan Nelson
Colln Zych

* after I had already posted his profile, reports indicated that Carimi was not in fact at the Ranch
** Watkins was not an invitee, but the Cowboys did take a scouting contingent to Baylor's pro day

Taking a look at this, a few things leap out:

  • The Cowboys will almost certainly take an offensive lineman in the first round. Look at where the OT invitees are clustered and how few first-round talents there are at other positions.
  • Yesterday, Dallas scouting Director Tom Ciskowski told the press that there are four players the Cowboys would consider at the ninth pick. It seems that Tyron Smith would almost certainly be one of these. Other than J.J. Watt, however, the other possibilities might be taken from guys who weren't invited to the Ranch (unless they have somebody graded MUCH higher than we imagine).
  • There is a sizable cluster of linebackers in rounds 2-4. Its pretty clear that they are concerned by the age and lack of depth at the position, so look for an ILB to come off the board in the early rounds (1-3) for the third year in a row.
  • There are several corners on the list, in a variety of rounds. Despite Jerry's protestations that they like who they have at corner (and the Alan Ball will return to CB after the failed experiment at safety), its clear they want to add to their stable--perhaps with a guy who can convert to safety, or to replace a current corner who they think might be able to make that conversion (Orlando Scandrick?)
  • Other than Rahim Moore, the safeties in whom they are interested look to be third-day types--the kind of guys who are more likely to provide competition for the Barry Churches of the roster than to compete for a starting job.
  • Given the types of running backs Dallas invited to the Ranch, its quite clear that they are looking to replace Marion Barber's tired legs and swollen contract. All of them are bigger, straight line guys who will get what's blocked. My guess is, that if one of them comes into the fold, Barber's locker will be cleaned out soon thereafter.
  • The Dallas brass is looking for a wide receiver--and all the wideouts they have invited fit two specific profiles: big, physical guys or speed burners who can stretch the field. My guess is that Jason Garrett would like to build a stable of receives who, with either their size or speed--or both--provide matchup problems for opposing secondaries, a la the receiving corps in San Diego and Green Bay.

Given all that information, here's my first attempt at a mock draft, with no trades. Tomorrow, I'll try one with trades. I'm clearly playing "GM for a day" here--simply put, I've chosen the guys whose profiles I found the most intriguing. So, I don't expect this to bear any resemblance to the Cowboys actual draft (but would be pleased if it did!).

#9: Tyron Smith, OT, USC
#40: Kenrick Ellis, DT, Hampton
#71: Johnny Patrick CB, Louisville
#110: Edmund Gates, WR Abilene Christian
#143: Nate Irving, ILB, NC State
#176: Stevan Ridley, RB, LSU
#219: Eric Hagg, S, Nebraska
#271: Jake Kirkpatrick, OC, TCU

The key here is round two: if you look at the chart, you'll see that there aren't a lot of guys who most draftniks are slotting in the top of the second round among the list of Dallas' invitees. So, my first impulse was to slot in a guy who would fall out of round one--and this is probably a sound strategy, given the fact that several quarterbacks are likely to be drafted at the end of the first and top of the second, thus pushing guys with first round grades to pick #40. But I thought it would be unfair to just pick a first round guy I liked (say, Mike Pouncey or Aaron Williams), even though that's what I hope will happen. Because I can't predict who that might be, I chose Ellis (hardly a bad consolation prize), all the while intrigued by the possibility of an Aaron Williams/ (falling) Christian Ballard combo in rounds 2 and 3.

What do you think, BTB Nation? Taking the names and general slots from the chart above, what would your ideal *no-trade* mock look like?

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Here's my ideal draft from the chart above
  1. - Tyron Smith, OT, USC
  2. - Aaron Williams , CB/S, Texas
  3. - Will Rackley, G, Lehigh
  4. - Kelvin Sheppard, ILB, LSU
  5. - Cecil Shorts, WR, Mount Union
  6. - Stevan Ridley, RB, LSU
  7. - Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU
  8. - Da’Norris Searcy, S, UNC

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by KJDH2154 on Apr 27, 2011 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I really like this.....

I am would prefer Castonzo to T.Smith (hopefully in a deal down), but I flat out love the rest of your draft

by death of the cool on Apr 27, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually considered exactly this draft

I’d be ecstatic if it played out this way—I like all these guys!

by rabblerousr on Apr 27, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ballard might be available later

I was sent an ESPN alert yesterday that he tested positive for weed at the combine.

by Ceasaleo on Apr 27, 2011 4:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Agreed

I just got a hold of Gosselin’s top 100 and Ballard’s not even on it…

by rabblerousr on Apr 27, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some football playing dudes

   1. – Anthony Castonzo, OT, Colorado (trade down)
   2. – Aaron Williams , CB/S, Texas
   3a. – Will Rackley, G, Lehigh
   3b. – Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina
   4. – Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
   5. – Nate Irving, ILB, NC State
   6. – Stevan Ridley, RB, LSU
   7a. – Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU
   7b. – Collin Zych, FS, Harvard

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 27, 2011 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I know you're a BTB writer, but you should still adhere to the rules sir!
What do you think, BTB Nation? Taking the names and general slots from the chart above, what would your ideal no-trade mock look like?

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by KJDH2154 on Apr 27, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha. I knew I should have read to the end …

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 27, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never thought I would see the day when I got to correct OCC on ANYTHING...

but Anthony Castonzo played for Boston College, not CU**

God that was satisfying :P

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Apr 27, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

/facepalm

The shame. The horror.

by One.Cool.Customer on Apr 28, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like your ideas and chart

It will be fun to look back and see how many of these guys the boys draft.

My ideal non trade scenario is this

round 1— Tyron Smith
round 2— Rahim Moore
Round 3— Bruce Carter( i think he’ll be long gone by then)
round 4— D Murray
round 5—kory lindsay
round 6—greg lloyd
round 7- Jake K

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by sprewelllatrell on Apr 27, 2011 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Like it a lot...

but I don’t want Rahim Moore. How about Jarvis Jenkins or Ras-I-Dowling?

I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.

by nspirals on Apr 27, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Would like to grab Hynoski too. Otherwise a nice haul.
We also have an extra 7th

by RE1D on Apr 27, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

that draft would be great

by Jonathan Stern on Apr 27, 2011 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

shouldn't Pouncy be an OG

I know he played center, a job his twin brother held before him, at Florida last season but considering his problems with snapping the ball it seems he would fit better as an OG.

Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin

by Biph on Apr 27, 2011 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone every consider...

drafting Herzlich in the 5th as an ILB? He seems to have good coverage skills and was a 1st round projection before his cancer. He seems completely free of the cancer and while he may never approach his previous potential, he seems a more agile Brady James to me.

by calmyron on Apr 27, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

All of the above drafts are very acceptable, I'd be

happy with any one of them. All the DL fanatics might
object that a DL isn’t taken in the 1st, but K Ellis would enable Rat to take a breather or even play DE in one of RR’s multiple sets. I like that, it’s almost like getting 2 picks for the price of 1. The rest ar really good, although the Rahim Moore pick might be more wisely used on DL and get a starting FS in FA.

by pfloyd1 on Apr 27, 2011 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

My wants: 2 OL in Rds 1-3; 1 DB in Rds 1-2; 1 WR, 1DB 1 ILB, 1 RB from Rds 4-7

1) Anthony Costanzo
2) Rahim Moore
3) Will Rackley
4) Edmund Gates
5) Korey Lindsey
6) Gregg Lloyd
7) Phillip Tanner

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 5:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Considering JG's Long Term Plan

 # 9: Tyron Smith, OT, USC
#40: Martez Wilson OT-G TCU
#71: Greg Little WR UNC (Scream if you will..best hands in draft)
#110: Lawrence Guy DT Arizona State
#143: Duenta Williams S UNC
#176: Marcus Cannon OT-G TCU (Willing to Bet on him)
#219: Willie Smith OT
#271: Chris Prosinski S Wyoming

Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

by 1Bullseye on Apr 27, 2011 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

? Martez Wilson

LB from Illinois or is this a total misprint?

by pfloyd1 on Apr 27, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops! Martez Wilson LB

Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

by 1Bullseye on Apr 27, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greg Little is The Man

I agree with you on this. And how was it that North Carolina didn’t win everything with the 12 guys they are sending to the NFL this draft?!!!

by LiveNDieBlue on Apr 27, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because most of them were suspended for the majority of the season

Robert Quinn, Marvin Austin, & Greg Little were held out by the NCAA for the entire season. There entire secondary (both corners and safeties) were held out for the 1st 5 games by the NCAA. And these are just a few guys. They actually had a very good year that ended with a bowl victory over the Vol’s in a bowl game. Especially considering they did it with half a team.

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What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Apr 27, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Two steps ahead draft"

1. JJ Watt
2. Kendrick Ellis
3. Martez Wilson
4. Demarco Murray
5. Korey Lindsey
6. Demarcus Love
7. Jake Kirkpatrick

I said it last year so I’m going to bite the bullet and keep with it this year; Sam Young is our future at RT

by AustonianAggie on Apr 27, 2011 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Also, I increasingly believe someone will Jump to 8 to snag Tyron Smith ahead of Dallas.

by AustonianAggie on Apr 27, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

building a Defense that will pitch 4 shut outs.

by AustonianAggie on Apr 27, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Offense was top 10 and Defense was bottom 10, I got different priorities than a lot of fans…

by AustonianAggie on Apr 27, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

With no RT

They’ll have to play damn near 40 minutes a game to pitch those shutouts. Poor Tony, such disrespect for your “franchise QB”.

by pfloyd1 on Apr 27, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do have a premise I’m keeping:
“I said it last year so I’m going to bite the bullet and keep with it this year; Sam Young is our future at RT”

by AustonianAggie on Apr 27, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Demarcus Love?

That late in the draft I guess it would be ok to take a chance on a guy but he looked like a bar door they way everyone was going through him at the Senior Bowl. Have to keep him inside as a guard…and I would still rather take the risk and go with Marcus Cannon

by LiveNDieBlue on Apr 27, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is with everyone's obsession with us taking Tyron Smith?

Last year everyone had us taking Bruce Campbell, or do people forget?

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Not Anywhere Near The Same Player

Smith is the Top rated OT in almost all opinions. See scouting reports, film & all major mocks.
Time will tell.
The mocks here were also “NO Trade” specific thus Smith seems most logical choice. imo & most others.
Why not Smith? Need is so obvious.

Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

by 1Bullseye on Apr 27, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not against taking a tackle. I'd prefer Costanzo or Carimi. Can't go wrong with the sure thing prospect.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure thing?

There is no such thing in the NFL draft; even with the first overall pick. You can’t be referring to either of the OTs you list.

by RenoCowboy on Apr 28, 2011 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Campbell

Is an OT drafted in the 4th round that was never discussed as a 1st round pick except for the senile Al Davis and the Raiders.

T. Smith was considered a 1st round OT the moment he decided to enter the NFL draft after his junior year. After the combine, he pretty much became the consensus #1 OT int he draft.

Not sure why you compare the two considering T. Smtih is not only stronger and more athletic, but has better technique, better football background, played in a NFL like offense at a better football program.

You may not want to watch game film or actually make a real comparison, but at least look at the basic facts.

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by Kegbearer on Apr 28, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

We are not the Oakland Raiders, we don't take project workout warriors

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

This year it's Tyron Smith, last year it was Bruce Campbell.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

o i c

Tyron is better than just his measurables. He knocked Cam Jordan out of my top Pick for Dallas.

by AustonianAggie on Apr 27, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is absolutely no comparison….you’re comparing apples to oranges, especially because your only stance on the comparison is they both worked out well, that certainly shouldn’t be a knock on a guy.

Question: have you watched any games of Tyron Smith?

Mayock’s take on both players:

Bruce Campbell – http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/01/mayock-applies-buyer-beware-tag-to-bruce-campbell/
Tyron Smith – USC OT Tyron Smith has risen to the top of Mayock’s position rankings, and he believes Smith will be "as good or better" than any of the tackles taken in last year’s draft and said that his "upside is phenomenal." That’s high praise. Mayock made a bold prediction, saying Smith will go No. 9 overall to the Cowboys.

"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones

by KJDH2154 on Apr 27, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

By the time he’s 23 or 24 we could have the best Left Tackle in the whole league.

by jman012 on Apr 27, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Upside gets you fired at the end of the guy's contract. Ive seen one too many times.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We should see a change in the Cowboys, now that JG is running the show

Expect to see these guys work harder and be held accountable on and off the field. With an outlook like that, we should start to see some of these player’s “potential.” Not only in the guys we draft this year, but some of the younger guys in more recent years as well.

by RE1D on Apr 27, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

When youi say
Upside gets you fired at the end of the guy’s contract. Ive seen one too many times.

What are you suggesting? That a team draft only players who are as good on draft day as they will ever get?

by RenoCowboy on Apr 28, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

No. I'm just saying if the best thing you can say about a kid is his upside, then I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

Dude has red flags on durability, work ethic/desire/passion, as well as awareness. Dude’s only started 20 games at his position, so doesn’t have as much game experience as the other guys at his position. But hey, he’s got measurables!!! Neat, I don’t care. At Tackle you better get a sure thing. Let other teams take the upside. Give me the guy whose passionate about the game, shows up every day, and has the strength + the smarts to play his position. If I was owner/scout/gm/head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, I’m not drafting my team to earn points from Mike Mayock, Mel Kiper, or Todd McShay. I’m drafting guys based on need, production, ability, smarts, potential, maturity, age, character, and overall talent. All those factors have to come into play. I want guys who fit my system.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 28, 2011 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

This year it's Tyron Smith, last year it was Bruce Campbell.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I tend to agree with you...not with your comparison to Campbell...but the gist of what you are saying...

Smith has only started one year and only at Right Tackle…he has zero experience on the left side. I’m not saying I would be disappointed in the choice if the scouting staff feels good about it, but I’m not fixated on Smith.

I would be much more satisfied with trading down for Costanzo/Watt and picking up a 3rd or even a 2nd then packaging this with our 40th pick to get back into the first round.

by CaliFanInTx on Apr 27, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

He’s started 2 years. And yes, they are both on the right side. But that was done to get him on the field 2 years ago when Charles Brown was the LT. They decided to keep him there for his 2nd year starting.

by Ridgelake on Apr 27, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, my opinion is the same...he needs to learn to play the left side.

If our scouts think the upside is worth not having any LT experience, I’m cool with his selection. He may be a worthwhile project, but he’s still a project. I’m not campaigning against picking Smith, but neither am I fixated on him. As a fan, the only prerequisite I want from our picks is that they are endorsed by our scouting department. It speaks to the process driven organization that Garrett speaks about…If our scouts can’t pick OL’s, then we need to get better scouts…if our coaches can’t coach OL’s then we need better coaches…same goes to the players…set the accountability but provide everyone with the authority to do their jobs.

Not that I want to speak for Rohpuri, but the gist of what I got from his/her criticism was that people are protecting their “pet cats”…honestly, how many people were thinking T.Smith to the Cowboys 2 months ago? It’s my opinion that many fans allow the media to dictate their thought process without going through the exercise of thinking for themselves. The accuracy of current sports media kinda sucks…

by CaliFanInTx on Apr 27, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 Well Said

Honestly, I have liked T Smith for a while, but for me, “no pets.” I won’t lie, I have preferences, but I trust JG to get the guy he wants. Just like at CB; Williams, Ras I Dowling, etc Whoever JG and RR want.

My opinions are a moot point, so I don’t get too excited either way. Although, after seeing all the possibilities, combintations, permutations, etc. I really hope we address the OT position in the 1st and grab DL and Secondary in the 2 & 3 Rounds. Finishing off with some combination of LB, WR, RB, OL and/or Hynoski.

I believe this would allow us to grab another OLman or 2 throughout the Draft next year and we should be well on our way to rettoling the OL and having a younger and more talented OL.

by RE1D on Apr 27, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...have a system in place and take the emotional element out of it...

We all want the same thing a better team…and a consensus is that we need to improve the OLine. Fans are allowed to be emotional and irrational…because they are fan(atic)s…but the organization better not be.

I see guys on here getting all offended when people criticize one of their players…seriously? They are quick to attack our own scouting department, but think media opinion is infallible…it’s ridiculous.

by CaliFanInTx on Apr 27, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

CaliFanInTx, you got the gist of what I/he was saying 100% correct.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 28, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

No worries
It’s my opinion that many fans allow the media to dictate their thought process without going through the exercise of thinking for themselves. The accuracy of current sports media kinda sucks…

100% agree with this. I mean just back to the end of last season, not a peep was made about Tyron Smith. I tend to be skeptical about guys that come out of left field a couple weeks away from the draft.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 28, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

1. Tyron Smith, OT, USC
2. Rahim Moore , S, UCLA
3. Will Rackley, G, Lehigh
4. Kelvin Sheppard, ILB, LSU
5. Cecil Shorts, WR, Mount Union
6. Stevan Ridley, RB, LSU
7. Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU
8. Da’Norris Searcy, S, UNC

Semper Fi Do or Die

by Jeremiah_24 on Apr 27, 2011 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Look at the tape man

Tyron Smith is hands down the best Tackle in this draft without a Question. This isn’t a hard pick to make. Take Tyron Smith let him play RT for a couple years then slide him over to LT for the next 10 years and forget about it.

by jman012 on Apr 27, 2011 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

guys...I like Bruce Carter even more then all of you, but....

…he will be long gone in 3 round….I bet he will not make it to the second half of second round also…so if you want him….you are going to pick him in 2nd I think…

before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!

by orli on Apr 27, 2011 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Great stuff Rabble!

Besides being a well constructed/written post and building on other great BTB resources/posts and with sound, well explained interpretations, reasonings, and mock…not to mention I agree with just about every word you wrote (HAHAHA)

But seriously, good work Rabble.

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by Kegbearer on Apr 27, 2011 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Time to play GM. Wish I could cheat like OCC and do a trade for a extra guy. ;)

1. T. Smith OT
2. A. Williams CB
3. W. Rackley OG
4. K Sheppard ILB
5. C. Shorts WR
6. I. Williams DT
7a. C. Zych FS
7b. J. Kirkpatrick OC

by Rena on Apr 27, 2011 6:39 PM CDT reply actions  

The Cowboys taking Tyron Smith at 9 would be the equivalent of the Knicks taking Danilo Gallinari in the lottery back in 2008 instead of taking Roy Hibbert.

Project Tackles are like Project European Forwards in the NBA. More likely to become Mike Mamula than Jonathan Ogden; more likely to become Nikolai Tskitisvili than Dirk Nowitzki.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 27, 2011 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

How is he a project?

He’s started 2 years at Right tackle, it’s not like this will be his first time playing there.

by jman012 on Apr 27, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give me the guy that can start immediately and who doesn't have knee issues.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 28, 2011 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Work Rabble!

Really like the post.

Also, really like the First 3 Picks! It addresses many of the holes/depth needs we have without sacrificing talent and capability.

(Although your graph up top does have RBs in the Defensive invitees)

by RE1D on Apr 27, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Phenomenal Research, Rabblerouser!

It looks like you’ve found a way to look at the cards the front office is holding going into the draft.

What is scary to me is if you are aware of this, might other teams with much more at stake have also figured it out, and use it against the Cowboys on draft day to outmaneuver them?

I shudder…

by kindablue on Apr 27, 2011 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Adam Shefter

reports that the request for a stay has been denied, the league year must start immediately.

by DonMoosavi on Apr 27, 2011 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, the players are going to be dictating what the owners pay them...lol

I’ve said this before in many threads, so I’ll repeat myself again. The owners will eventually get some money back and the players will give some up. The only thing that has changed is the timing and the amount.

by CaliFanInTx on Apr 27, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Players 3 NFL 0 The Courts are seeing right through the NFL's artful cow dung.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 28, 2011 1:26 AM CDT reply actions  

The Scouts Inc. Break Down of Tyron Smith and the three most important attributes in my opinion

1) Durability=4: This means he’s below average. This is because he’s got excess fluid in his knees, and he’s had his knee scoped b/c of an injury to his meniscus. Once you injure your knee, chances are it’s never going to get better. Especially since the kid apparently needs to add another 10-15 pounds of weight. More pressure to put on his surgically repaired knee at an age when he’s still growing into his body (we stop growing around age 25) is definitely pause for concern.

2) Intangibles=3: This means he’s average. A big man whose not intense and passionate about football trying to make it in the NFL as a Tackle. I think the Eagles have seen this story before with the Andrews brothers.

3) Awareness3: He can be a second late recognizing blitzes and defensive line movement, and in the run game he can have trouble picking out his target in the second level.

Also, I do find it concerning that there’s not a single trait/attribute that he’s given an exceptional rating in. Like I’ve maintained, I’m skeptical given his age (20) and his lack of experience (2 years). I want a guy whose played at least 3 seasons of college football on my line. I want a guy with a high motor, whose passionate, works hard, and can process information really quickly, and knows his assignments. Especially at OT.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Apr 28, 2011 1:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's my Mock pick it apart...

Staying at nine I have to go
1 JJ Watt
2. Gabe Carimi
3. Will Rackley
4. Ed Gates
5. Nate Irving
6. Byron Stingily OT
7. Phillip Tanner
7. Anterias Barnes
Address S in free agency.

by Cowick22 on Apr 28, 2011 2:14 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes my pre draft Hot Sports Opinion is...

That Carimi will fall to round 2. A- because of the push for QB’s and B – because he is a RT only prospect.
How AWESOME would it be for us to get him in RD2!! His stock has slowly fallen the last 2 weeks. Bill Parcells has him as a 3rd round prospect, but we have to reach for him in RD 2. Badger POWER!!

by Cowick22 on Apr 28, 2011 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mock #2

1. T. Smith OT
2. Kendrick Ellis NT/DE
3. Christian Ballard DE
4. Justin Houston OLB
5. Nate Irving ILB
6. Byron Stingily OG
7. Willie Smith OT
7. Anterias Barnes CB Baylor

Dallas takes advantage of a couple of guys who pulled knuckleheaded moves just before the draft. Immediately introduces them to Calvin Hill.

Dallas drops 4th in the Supplemental Draft on Janoris Jenkins CB Florida. Also immediately introduces him to Calvin Hill.

by Cowick22 on Apr 28, 2011 3:48 AM CDT reply actions  

That should be Antereis Bryan CB- Baylor

Since the STAY was DENIED I have included,
Priority Free Agents:
Phillip Tanner RB
Andre Holmes WR
Marc Schiechl OLB
Blake Sumner NT
Leslie Jasper OG/NT

by Cowick22 on Apr 28, 2011 4:00 AM CDT reply actions  

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