Jason Garrett: Cowboys Draft Philosophy All About Drafting The "Right Kind Of Guy"
by One.Cool.Customer on May 1, 2011 10:30 AM CDT
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PrintBack when Jason Garrett was announced as the head coach of the Cowboys in January, he electrified Cowboys fans by talking about "The Cowboy Way". Most of us had immediate flashbacks to the Cowboys of the 90s and could hardly contain our excitement at the prospect of seeing a return to the level of confidence and, dare I say it, swagger that characterized the Cowboys of the 90s.
Jason Garrett is good at a lot of things, but one thing he is particularly good at is formulating a organizational mantras that everybody can understand and that everybody can get behind. The Cowboy Way was one, 'stacking on good day on top of the other' was another, the exact time and date of where the next opponent will be waiting yet another and that are many more that we have already begun to internalize.
In the course of the draft, another organizational theme emerged, the "Right Kind Of Guy". Find out what Garrett means with this after the break.
In a segment on ESPN, Trey Wingo asked Jason Garrett what the Cowboys philosophy was in this draft:
Jason Garrett: "The most important thing is we talk about what it means to be a Dallas Cowboy, the kind of guys we want on our football team. If you look at the guys we've selected, each of these six guys represents that. They're good football players. The top three guys are from big schools. They're prominent players at that school, they have production at a high level. And then as we've gotten a little further down in the draft we've been able to take some guys who we think can fit a particular role for us. At least to create some competition on our football team. Again, they have the right measurables, they're the Right Kind Of Guys, we think they're good football players."
In his post-draft press conference yesterday, he described fifth round pick Josh Thomas, CB from Buffalo, as the right kind of guy, which later prompted a couple of follow-up questions that I've transcribed below:
Q: You called J.T. Thomas "the right kind of guy". What is your "Right Kind Of Guy" with you as the head coach?
Jason Garrett: "We have a lot of "The Right Kind Of Guys" on our football team right now. Whenever we acquire a player, through the draft, through free agency, in any way, we want to have "The Right Kind Of Guys". Obviously they have to have the physical requirements to play this game. The measurables, the talent, the aptitude to play. Part of that is being "The Right Kind Of Guy". You want guys who love to play football and show you that they love it each and every day. Passion, enthusiasm, emotion, all of those things come into it."
"It's one thing to talk that, but you need to see that. I think if you look at these eight guys that we chose in this draft over the last three days, each of these guys has those traits."
Q: Some of the guys you drafted were Captains on their teams. How much do you look at that as "The Right Kind Of Guy"?
Jason Garrett: "I think it goes to it. It's certainly not a prerequisite to say you have to be a captain, but I think that has a lot to do with what we're talking about. These are the "Right Kind Of Guys", they love it. At the college level, the guys in their team look to them as leaders, and those are the kind of guys you want on your team."
Q: Is there a "Wrong Kind Of Guy"?
Jason Garrett: "Sure. And you know what those guys are. The guys who don't love to play football. Guys who don't love to work. The guys who don't love to be around their teammates. The guys who aren't trying to be the best they can be. All those things."
"Again, we have a number of "The Right Kind Of Guys" on our football team right now. You can't get better than Jason Witten. This is a rare guy, and there are a number of other guys like him who we love. They'll be great leaders for these new guys who come in to say, "Keep doing it the way you've been doing it. You've been the right kind of guy, we expect the same from you now. We have these guys to show you how to do that."
In describing OT Tyron Smith and seventh round pick Bill Nagy, OG out of Wisconsin, Jason Garrett described them both as linemen who would "finish plays", and that that was something that stood out on tape and made those players attractive to the Cowboys. Garrett was asked about the importance of finishing plays and provided this insight
Jason Garrett: "That's what you want to see throughout your football team. You want a physical team. Guys who play with emotion, passion and enthusiasm. And it shows up in their play. When you have offensive linemen who can set the tone for your football team, that's a good thing."
"And a lot of that is how they come off the ball, how they get into their guy and then how they finish their play. You don't want guys who block their guys initially, and then watch the action. You want those guys to set the tone for the play and for your football team, and finishing has a lot to do with that. That is an emotional thing, but it is also an athletic thing. You need to be athletic enough to finish plays. We feel like these guys are that when you watch them on tape."
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This is the part of the draft that makes me happiest.
The obvious culture change in the works with the new guys. We said repeatedly during the year how we needed leaders on the field. How some other teams seemed to deliberately pick captains form college squads, why didn’t we do that? Well, now we are.
+1
on picking the captains & leaders bc this team had a few guys who didn’t want to give 100%. thats the reason i defend guys like James, Newman, Colombo, Etc who aren’t big time stars but your going to get 100% even when there hurt.
we need more players that lead by example, i love when one of the younger players let the vet know they want it more then they do & it brings the best out of both. vets dont like there pride to get hurt but todays young athletes want to hurt it so bad they take there job. its not like the old days when the vet could slap a rookie around these kids are beast now & hungry to win a job
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
+1
Garrett is trying to create a culture of competition too. No more of that complacency under Wade
by somebodyquiet on May 1, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
one of the best things about this draft for me
is that we seem to be rebuilding our OL with smaller, quicker players. No more behemoths that don’t move well or are so to react
Garret obviously loves an offense that can move well together
Screens, rollouts, naked bootlegs…..a system that inherently needs mobile linemen.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The entire philosophy in picking OLmen appears to have shifted
I’m really enjoying the Garrett approach.
All of the above
What fan HASN’Tbeen frustrated watching mental errors and finger pointing in the secondary, or brain cramps along the O-line? We comlain about dumb coaching moves, but even more damaging are dumb players. Passion and smarts will make a difference on this team, without a doubt.
The mobile line is key. It’s not just the ability to execute the things Brandon mentions, but to fire off the line first and get into the defensive line before they get into the LOS. The current pachyderms can’t do that; these new guys can…
Don't believe everything you think.
The Witten reference is interesting
Wonder if he’s sending a message to Marty B.
actually I think the message was sent
when he talked about the wrong kind of guys, the guys who don’t love to play football…definitely referring to Marty B in that regard.
In Romo we Trust
I agree
But, I think it was more of a scatter shot in MartyB’s general direction. Hopefully some of it hits Jenkins, Bigg, Ogletree and Sensabaugh (if he gets resigned).
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I hope Marty B gets it. He's got a ton of talent and I'd hate to see JG give up on him.
If he’s not traded, this will be his make or break year.
Sounds like what a lot of people were saying last off season.
I think his “talent” is blocking on the field and being a center of attention off of it.
Rabid and luvin' it
Is this the last year of his rookie contract?
He’s a great blocker for us who can catch 30 balls or so. I wouldn’t cut him before his rookie contract is up but until he shows me more, I wouldn’t want to resign him either
by somebodyquiet on May 1, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
MartyB is making the team. unless he's traded for a player or high draft pick then its no value to let him go
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
Marty B has 1 year left on his Rookie deal
Why create an unnecessary void ?
We live life forwards and understand it backwards
Don't underestimate Rucker.
If he has a good training camp, I can see Marty B. gone, which would be such a waste of a second roud draft pick. That would make 2 2nd round TE failures with the Fazano trade to Miami for a 4th, I believe.
Rucker has been bouncing around teams
I expect him to be a camp body and PS guy again
by somebodyquiet on May 1, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not about rucker...It's about Phillips
If JP comes back to be the player he looked like just before the knee, then Telly B’s days are numbered IMO.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
If he's a distraction
they might, just to send a Jimmy Johnson-style message.
Don't believe everything you think.
I think if he goes
it will be a “message” like you said…..
otherwise, he is not a big cap hit and can block, so unless someone is willing to send us something in return, I think he will be here next year
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
Well.....my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
i thought it was odd he mentioned Witten over the leader of the team, Romo.
it could mean a lot of things but it was a messege to someone & he learned how to send a messege through the media like the master Phil Jackson. JG had some talks with a lot of successful head coaches in all sports & Phil Jackson was one of them. he also spent time with coach K at Duke & Jimmy J…
JG is direct with his messeges & the more results i see for the positive the better this organization can be.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
I don't think mentioning Witten has anything to do with Romo at all.
Romo, for his entire career, has been the first to arrive at Valley Ranch and one of the last to leave, no matter what else he has going on. He’s organized player workouts during the lockout and he and Witten are best friends, on and off the field. I don’t know how anyone could say that Romo isn’t a leader or the “Right Kind Of Guy”. If anyone ever doubts this, I think back to the play when Romo broke his collarbone:
“Did he catch it?”
’Nuff said.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Love that
I say that to all the “haters” that rad on Romo for not being a leader……
With the 9th Pick Dallas Selects Tyron Smith...Romo Weeps in Joy, and Bennet says"I might get to go out in the Pass Pattern now!"
by I am Ironman!!! on May 1, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
nuff said? who says?
you don’t hear about the TE being the type of leader on any other team with a strong QB like you do in Dallas. i’m not a Romo hater & i put in the top 10 overall but dude he lacks a little in the leadership department. also was he the 1st one to training camp when was trying out for golf events in the past? even the Tuna had to pressure RoMo in the weight room by calling him a little slice of peperoni. did you catch that?
just bc he asked “did he catch it?” doesn’t mean he’s a better leader then Witten.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Witten is the reason Jason Garrett is HC.
Witten worked his but off after the bad start, and practically put this offense on his back through long stretches. WIthout him, we don’t win nearly as many of the last few games without his superb play.
I think Garrett was giving him a nod. And he deserves one.
I think what might have happened if Romo had been healthy with Garrett as HC
And I get sad…..but I also think that if Romo had stayed healthy, Wade would never have been fired mid-season.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Leaders don't come from a specific position, contrary to the fantasies of fans and sports media
Witten is just a natural leader and it shows. Guys like Romo and Ware are probably more the “by example” guys and have to work a little more at being vocal leaders, and clearly they do work at it. But some guys just have that natural leadership ability. Ray Lewis isn’t a QB either, just a guy players naturally follow. So it’s not a comment about Romo, or Ware, it’s a compliment to JW.
Don't believe everything you think.
I agree........
I don’t think everything that comes out of someone’s mouth, is meant as a message to another player. Take it for what it is-Witten is a great leader and Garrett respects him for it.
Is it just me or does this kind of talk remind you
Of the patriots and steelers. “what it means to be a steeler”. The biggest complaint with the cowboys the last couple of years is that they had no apparent identity. Among personel, defense or offense. JG has decided win or lose we’re going to do things right. You can’t buy in to any part of that (just wear a damn tie Marion) then you need to leave.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on May 1, 2011 11:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yes yes yes.
I’ll take some losing seasons now if it means long term success. Though I think we the players in place already JG can do this on the fly. Cowboys will soon have their identity or swagger back! I can not wait!
Ugh I am trying not to get excited because we don’t even know if there will be football yet. Boooo
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Yes it does, and I love it.
It also means the era of Switzer, Galley, Campo, and Wade Phillips, where playing fast and loose with little things, babying&buddy buddy the players and looking the other way when they don’t practice hard, excuses for game day incompetence, and tolerating evaporating team morale for “they are just expressing themselves” are finally over. Back to the days of Jimmy Johnson, The Sick Field, and Michael Irvin’s list of me first players being kicked off the team we go. I love this, and I can’t wait for the day when can all emphatically proclaim “all I have to say is: HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS!”
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 3:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice point
I think that is precisely what Garrett is after. Establish a positive culture, find players who fit and mold those who don’t using the power of peer pressure.
Don't believe everything you think.
I got goosebumps when he talked about finishing
Basically he wants the linemen to bury there guys. NO QUIT – NO SURRENDER!!
Who are you?!
I'm Kick Ass!
That's my mantra for the CA Bar Exam this summer.
Garrett has me ready and wanting to strap on helmet and run through a wall.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 3:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So long Garrett is in charge, we'll have great drafts
and very successful teams who will consistently make the playoffs and win championships….this guy is going to be an outstanding HC in this league.
In Romo we Trust
OUTSTANDING draft
Garrett added some key pieces in this draft. I’ve seen a lot of people whinin’ about not getting a particular star player or two, with potential character concerns; understandable…but can’t build a successful team without complete cohesion amongst the folks involved. This applies in all walks of life. On the football field, in the office, in the military, ect.
I wholeheartedly believe that what was done in this draft, was gather a healthy mix of players who are not only talented, but possess the drive to “keep their legs drivin’” when things get tough, especially late in the season. Give me a group of players with the common goal of WINNING any day.
Certain “needs” were not addressed in the draft, and you can’t expect them to fill every one. That’s what free agency is for; the chronological order is just flipped this year, which I think changes what we expect to get from the draft.
I think the old saying is, that as long as we “hit on 2-3 players, then we are in good shape”. Well, I do know that it is WAY to early to tell, but I believe we could potentially have that, and then some with this draft. Potentially 4? 5? Maybe 6?
I’ll admit: I jumped the gun on the Sean Lee pick last year and did not like it one bit. It wasn’t until I did the research after the draft on the guy, discovered he was a 1st round graded talent and dropped due to injuries, that I finally came around on the guy. He was a good player in year one, and I expect even more from him this year. The same feeling goes towards Carter. The fact that he’s already doing squats and running on the knee is GREAT news. I tore my MCL last year in MMA training, and 5 months later I’m doing a PT test in the Air Force, running a 1.5 mile in under 9 minutes. It’s not a career ending injury if treated properly. Awesome pick.
Murray in the 3rd? I think we’re going to have to look a little deeper to find the true reason for taking him that early. Barber’s ridiculous contract will be dumped this year. Mark that down. Choice may also be gone too while he still has trade value. What does that mean for us? MORE MONEY FOR FREE AGENT ACQUISITION. I’m a diehard Longhorns fan, and being a native Texan, I’ll tell you this: I spend about as much time hating anything Oklahoma related as I do watchin’ my Horns. The kid can flat out play ball. He’s going to open up a new dimension to our offense. Barring injuries, you’re going to see a top 5 offense that scores TOUCHDOWNS this year.
FEAR the STAR.
by .FRoST.USAF on May 1, 2011 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Agree on all counts.
I think people are going to love Murray IF he becomes our version of Brian Westbrook. Westbrook used to tear us up shifting out of the backfield and catching passes.
Rabid and luvin' it
Oh man..
This back can snatch balls outta the air like Westbrook could. Realistically, he’s going to need some time in the weightroom to be more efficient in blocking, but I feel good about it, with having our old S&C coach back.
FEAR the STAR.
I hated Murray his entire career, because I'm a UT fan and he scared the crap out of me
I agree that it’s tough to value his selection, considering the help needed at DE and what was available…but he’s what we have now and I’m excited as hell to see what he can do on the football field.
Felix AND Murray on the team? Hell yeah.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The thing about RB IMO
is there maybe an UDFA in camp that’s better than anyone on the team. I didn’t like taking a RB in the 3rd, but it was better than trading back into the 1st for one.
Lock n Load
Agreed.
I am pretty damn ecstatic the Cowboys didn’t trade up to get Mark Ingram, even if he is an “Emmitt Smith” clone. Cam Jordan would have been pretty awesome, but I’m still good with what happened.
Murray is immediately better than a UDFA, or Lonyae Miller and is arguable already better than Choice.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
how mad would we all be if we did trade up for Ingram?
That would have ruined this draft for me.
And Murray will almost certainly be better than whatever FA joins the team. There is a reason these guys get picked high – the rbs that get picked high in the last few years usually produce. Its not much of a bust position, outside the injury factor.
Ugh.
That’s the last damn thing this team needed. Even I, the perpetual homer, would have been super pissed about that one.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agree
Visions of a young Westbrook on our squad has to make one smile, just wish it were a 4th and not a 3rd.
I agree, Rackley in the 3rd and a RB in the 4th.
Basically flipping Dallas’ draft picks there. I don’t mind Arkin, but he’s no Rackley. Arkin may have a good chance to be a good backup. Rackley would have (IMO) a good chance to endanger Kosier’ and Davis’ jobs not this season but next season.
Why? do you think the cowboys scouts and coaches are top-tier draft gurus?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Considering 3 RB's were taken between Dallas' 3rd and 4th round picks
Maybe JG & Co. were anticipating other teams wanting to pick Murray as well in the same round, and so jumped the gun on him. The Pats took LSU RB Stevan Ridley just two picks after we took Murray.
I like the rest didn't agree with some of the picks initially..
But I am starting to see the philosophy of what Garrett is doing. I like the rest, am sick and tired of being the laughing stock of the NFL. “All that talent and ya’ll can’t do anything with it.” It’s all I hear. To be a Raven or a Steeler, means something. They have a culture, a way of doing things. They are going to play football. They have leaders, people who are accountable and take responsibilities.
To all of you who are bashing Garrett because we didn’t get the superstars or pet cats that you all wanted, just be patient. Just to let you know, Garrett didn’t do exactly what I wanted either. But he did something better. He is instilling a new culture in our team. Good leaders make tough choices. Sometimes they make choices that we don’t agree with, but in the end, they stick to their convictions and lead without abandonment. We applaud Jason Garrett for getting a staff together that demands toughness and accountability. I’m sure these guys have years of experience teaching football. I;m also sure that they had an input on who was taken or what to look for.
I think we are discounting the fact that some of these coaches have superbowl rings too. Something that we have been too long without. I am willing to listen let these guys have a chance. These guys don’t have character issues, they are leaders and captains on their teams. That is what we have been missing.These are the guys that bring honor and respectability to our team again. These guys are the ones who love to play football,and will appreciate the opportunity to play for us. That is what we want right?
Then give these guys a chance to play for us. And give Garrett a chance to instill his new philosophy on our team. I have seen some of the other quick fixes, and I wasn’t impressed.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
I like this draft.
And I think we have to be real with ourselves. This team was not a good draft away from seriously contending for the Super Bowl. This is a 2-3 year fix, and it looks like an entire changing of the guard is underway. I see a pattern with these picks. I see high character guys, and I see guys who seem to have been drafted with the intent of dumping aging, overpaid guys at those positions.
Sure I wish we had 8 picks in the first 3 rounds so we could fill all of our needs too. But why take guys who you don’t value just to feel needs? If we were a player or two away, sure. But this is an overhaul, so I think you have to start by bringing in high character, talented guys regardless of need or position. It will work itself out over the next few years.
And let me say again, I LOVE the Murray pick. Now we have 2 REAL running backs. Barber was a specialist, and Choice is above average at basically nothing. Now we have two guys who can pretty much do whatever is asked of them. Two dynamic guys, whom a defense can never really afford to fall asleep on.
If you consider that selection along the selection of Tyron Smith, David Arkin, and Shaun Chapas, it looks like JG really wants to make a commitment to running the ball, and getting playmakers into space.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 1, 2011 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
Interesting se of terms
Since they needed to change the guards and they passed on Ijalana AND Rackley!!!
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Good one. LOL
But in all seriousness what if Arkin was higher on Dallas’ board? Is that impossible?
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 1, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all
My point is that Dallas’ board is suspect and has been, relative to O-line, for some time now…
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
by 5Blings on May 1, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
its true...
and I know I say this after every draft, but we’ll have to wait and see. I like both the Tyron Smith and Arkin picks. I think both of these guys will be starters for us in the near future, although Arkin may not be a potential pro-bowler like Ijanla. Still…we don’t need to have stars at every position everywhere. A competent oline that doesn’t let rushers fly in untouched constantly and moves well and finishes blocks in the run game would be an improvement.
I don't get the "we don't need stars at every position" thing
Shouldn’t the war room be trying to draft a future HOF’er with every pick?
If so, why do allow ourselves to settle for less as fans? Have we been lulled to sleep by the years of sub-par drafting?
The anticipation around Jimmy’s next draft was like a constant Christmas eve.
Under Jerry, there have been far too many lumps of coal.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
So try to draft lesser players?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
There were lumps of coal...
during Jimmy’s tenure too…
True
…but they tried to hit home runs every at bat.
This group doesn’t.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
If Demarco Murray in the 3rd is not a home run swing, I don’t know what is…
Smiles ahead
by accidental innuendo on May 2, 2011 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Swinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng and a miss
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
It's not hard to TRY!!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I guess my point was poorly worded
I don’t mean to say we are drafting backups on purpose, just that those that we only have so many picks, and we don’t necessarily need our line to be comprised of day 1 and day 2 picks – this is more for the people who are saying we should have taken OL in the 2nd round too. If we took OL in the second round this year, a high round lb would be a need early on next year.
I think Jerry and Jason did a good job letting the draft come to them and grabbing value, which was often at positions of need.
the giants won a super bowl on the strength of superior trench play and were woefully disadvantaged at the skill positions
The Steelers aren’t known for their skill players, but they spend high picks on linemen.
How many Super bowls have they been in over the last 6? Just 3.
Again, I disagree that they let the draft come to them. After every pick beyond #9, the initial reaction was the right one. Fans had mouths agape, wondering why D-line was completely overlooked and why a RB went so high. In a copycat league, Dallas is infinitely more talented at RB than GB and yet, we can’t stop taking skill players and LB’s when it comes to our higher picks.
If we took OL in the second round this year, a high round lb would be a need early on next year.
You know what? I am totally fine with that, but let’s finally fix the O-line and worry less about who is playing behind it for a while…
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Their OL draft board was pretty good last year, wasn't it?
The ones they had rated highly played pretty well. The one who they didn’t rate highly, didn’t.
I don’t think you can simply lump Garrett’s apparently new OL profile in with years past, and just label Dallas’ board as “suspect”. Many of those picks were made with an entirely different coaching/scouting regime in charge.
How was the scouting group entirely different?
And aren’t you making a huge leap of faith in assuming that Jason had the kind of control you are insinuating he had (Jerry’s comments notwithstanding)?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
We can still have Free agency...
And UDFA when this stuff gets worked out. Im feeling much better after the draft about the selections. We are on our way back. Things are going to be different this time.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Let me ask you
Why is it that FA is always the fallback position if we somehow need a ‘spin’ on a poor draft?
Because we have some great history of finding that all-pro safety in FA? or that great DE?
These are the SAME comments that came up when people derided the choice of Brewster 2 years ago and gasped when Dallas overlooked the line last year.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
This is a poor draft in your opinion...
Brewster may have been a bad pick, but how do you know Ijalana AND Rackley are going to be any better.
I’ve seen the tape. If Brewster is no Tyron Smith, neither are Ijalana AND Rackley.
When JG and company felt strongly that they could not pass on a player they didn’t.
Ijalana and Rackley are from small schools too.
How do you know that Arkin won’t be as good. He has some credentials to his name. Not sure of the other two.
See below
Arkin never showed up. His pick was maligned because no one had seen him play against the big boys.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
They both had opportunities to shine against FBS competition and did quite well
They both have solid technique.
They both got picked by teams who do better jobs, historically speaking, of evaluating O-linemen.
Need I continue?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I read many of the draft profiles on these guys...
I’m not convinced they represented more value than the guys we took ahead of them.
Plus, if the intent all along was to sign a guard in free agency, and that is what S. Jones hinted at yesterday, I think picking either of these guys would have been a waste.
Of course, something tells me if we sign or trade for Logan Mankins you would still have a problem with that.
I don't know what Stephen was hinting at and I don't like to guess at those things
…but I do know the chance to draft a highly regarded interior lineman doesn’t come along that often. They missed on Unger. What have they done since then?
You think Alan Arkin is Max Unger? I don’t. I can’t, because I saw Unger play.
Have you seen or heard anything about Arkin, aside from what is being spouted out of the Ranch, that makes you think this guy can push Bigg or Kosier on day 1?
Or, maybe you take the position that he was drafted to be a backup to Mankins when he comes over in that blockbuster deal?
All I know is this LDVF, those guys had a chance to face top tier competition inside prior to the draft and they performed admirably.
The last time I heard this kind of spin coming from Jerry and co. about what seemed like a bad OL choice early in the draft was when they took…
wait for it…
Robert Brewster.
So, do I have evidence in support of my position? Yes sir.
What can you put forth in terms of the Dallas draft machine, as it pertains to drafting O-linemen, to the contrary?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I was just reading some posts/comments at the Seahawks' blog
And they generally don’t seem to be too high on Unger’s potential.
Were we going to to find an all-pro safety in the draft?
Of course not. This was the worst draft for safety in recent memory. In fact, I would have been PISSED if we took a safety in this draft at any point before the 6th round.
DE is a different story (in terms of quality available), but I don’t see DE as a huge need on this team. Spears will likely be re-signed, and Ryan is said to love Bowen. Lissemore will play more, and we’ll probably sign another FA for depth or bring back Hatcher.
I like Choice
I think he runs with urgency and is physical between the tackles.
It’s Felix who I think is a potential bust. I think he has no strength in his legs and gets taken down with pinkie-tackles.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I cant stand Choice. I'd listen to him talk all day
but he is a waste of carries.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 1, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
He'll break a tackle...Felix won't
…and behind this o-line, breaking tackles will be a marquee skill set requirement.
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
He didnt do much of anything in limited time last year
And his pass blocking sucks. Which is important in today’s league. I think theres likely something more going on behind the scenes, but Garrett clearly doesn’t like TC.
It does seem so
..but isn’t Choice a Garrett kind of guy? Motivational, serves the community, loves the game, good team mate…… was asking Vick for an autograph a capital offense with JG?
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Choice also tends to clown a bit.
But that’s mainly off the field.
He never really picked up the nuances of pass blocking. Does Garrett see that as inability or lack of effort? I don’t know. He’s struggled on Special Teams…not a good thing as a 3rd RB. Again, does Garrett see that as limited ability or lack of effort?
Just pointing out some things that might lie beneath the surface. I used to be a one of the people wanting him to get a legit chance. I was a little underwhelmed with what he did with his limited touches in 2010. Is he a rhythm back? I don’t know. I just didn’t see anything that made me say, “this guy is awesome!” All I saw was a few things that made me think he could be as good or better than Barber at this point. And that’s not all that much at this point.
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HE never got a chance
Choice was left out of games to the Cowboys’ detriment.
I have no clue why you would freeze out the guy. By doing so, we just lowered his trade value to next to nothing.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Well showing up the starting QB on the sidelines isn't gonna put you in good standing with the HC.
Even though it was Wade at the time.
Dez has sideline tirades
I don’t buy it. If you’re good, you should be playing.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
again, I have no idea why,
but its pretty clear to me that Garrett does not trust TC enough to give him significant playing time. I understand the problems in 2010 – Choice’s pass blocking seemed especially bad, and he really wasn’t any more effective than Felix and Barber when running the ball.
This has very little to do with TC directly
I think what the team was looking for was more playmaking ability at the RB position and someone that can return kickoffs.
If Tashard’s role is diminished because Murray happens to be a doggone good pick, then so be it.
Smiles ahead
by accidental innuendo on May 2, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's all hope that's the outcome here
…and that Choice brings something in trade value.
I think he could be a good addition to a team like Detroit.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Not anymore. They have Jahvid Best and Mikel Leshoure.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Choice is unlike either of them
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And not as good as either of them.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
5Blings, I agree with you about Felix.
Felix reminds me of a track star attempting to play football. He doesn’t have strong hamstrings, and probably doesn’t have strong enough calves. For a running back to last and be successful he needs to not only have a strong upper body, but he also needs to have strong leg muscles.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 1:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You're right 5b
Felix must be compared to the backs taken after him. Now that we hopefully have a better OL, Felix better shine.
Absolutely!
Cj2K and Mendenhall look like stars wile Felix needs a 3 lane highway or a swing route with impeccable blocking in front of him in order to make a game-changing play.
I said so at the time that Felix was not the right guy and I hate the feeling that I may have been right.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Ehhh I still think Felix can be a game-breaker.
He has already said that last year he tried to put on too much weight and that he is going to get a little lighter and quicker this year. And considering his career yards per carry average is 5.3, I think there is a lot of reason to be optimistic about Felix. Plus, as we all continually saw, our O-line was pretty horrible at times last year. If we can improve on that I think Felix can absolutely put up some very nice numbers. I mean after all, the guy put up 1200+ total yards in only seven games started.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Great...less muscle for a guy who goes down if one of the blades of grass is longer than the others
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Oh come on.
In 2009, Felix Jones was 5th in the league in yards after contact per carry at 3.34. It is a great measure of a RBs ability to not go down. Prophetically, Jamaal Charles ranked #1 in this ranking. Felix does not just go down the second someone touches him. That is hyperbole used to the utmost. Seriously, go back and watch the games and watch his ability to actually make plays when he is not met in the backfield.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Hence the reason why I don't let those stats cloud my perspective
Watch the games again. Do you really think Jamaal Charles was busting tackles like Earl Campbell last year?
I’m shaking my head here, bro.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I think you need to reconsider the term "contact."
There were a ton of runs where guys like CJ and Jamaal (and Felix) were touched but because of how elusive they were they get away.
Contact =/= Broken Tackles
The point here is that Felix is not simple to tackle. Saying he is goes against the games I have watched and the stats. The guy makes guys miss in small areas and losing a little weight will only accentuate that. Furthermore, the one underrated aspect of Felix is his ability to run between the tackles. His success rate was the highest out of RBs up the middle I believe and I attribute that to his burst that allows him to get to the hole before whichever guard is blocking lets his guy through. His vision is also solid and helps. I am not saying Felix is the next HOF RB, but I absolutely believe he has the ability to be a top-10 RB. His worst year has been 4.3 yards per carry. If our offensive line can get better and if MBIII stops taking up unnecessary carries, I think Felix will easily break 1100 yards on the ground.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Hmmmm...I think that has more to do with the kinds of plays he made
Felix in space was a good thing. Felix between the tackles? Not so much.
I think there were some counters and draws but I seldom saw him show much wiggle. He has always looked straight-linish to me and that’s why he’s not much use when the team wants 3 tough yards.
In fact, on 3rd and hort, I’d much rather have TC in there than Felix because of how hard TC fights and how he always seems to fall forward because of his superior body lean.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I do like Choice in short yardage situations
but I think Felix is just about as good since he has a great burst forward and is a little more of a slasher.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
he gets brought down too easily
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Don't want to sound like a homer
but I think Dallas has a chance to be a contender pretty soon. You have championship caliber skill players, including the all-important elite QB, and you have a guy on the short list of best defensive players in football. Obviously the O-Line and secondary need overhauls, but in my mind closing that gap represents the gap between where they were Thursday and where they want to be.
You saw the Green Bay Packers go from a 6-10 team to contender to Super Bowl champ.
You would have been right if you had finished that last sentence with...
“by bringing in guys named BJ Raji and Bryan Bulaga”.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Well BJ Raji was on GB for a while before raising his level of play like he did last year.
If a guy like Spencer can raise his game in the same way like he did in 2009, who knows what we can do? And much like the Packers last year, we just got our tackle through the draft. I think there is at least reason to believe a turnaround is possible. If nothing else, we had a winning record under Garrett down the stretch.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
You have doubts about Felix Jones...
but you think Bulaga is ok"?
Let’s put it this way. Wes Bunting and others weren’t comparing T. Smith’s potential to Bulaga’s.
I think Bulaga's short arms dropped him and all he did was start the Super Bowl
He’s going to be a mainstay in GB for a long time. Tyron Smith could be Sam Baker.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
He started the SuperBowl, but
Bulaga was not the reason the GB packers were there.
Without Bulaga, the Packers gave up 37 sacks. With him, they gave up 47 sacks. According to ProFootball Weekly, 11 of those sacks could be attributed to Bulaga.
As to T. Smith, Bunting compared him to Jason Smith (if I remember correctly).
Correction
It was 38 sacks in 2010 and 51 sacks in 2009. So there was an improvement in line play, but I wouldn’t pin it on Bulaga.
He still gave up 11 sacks, almost one third of the 2010 total.
Team game, LDVF
Rookie starter who helped a patchwork O-line propel a lethal offense with scrubs for RB’s.
I’d take him on my team any day.
Based on the post above, I think Garrett would too.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
And Bryan Bulaga could be Robert Gallery.
Is that seriously your argument?
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
They drafted to fill a need and they love the guy
How much more do you need?
You think Arkin is the next Larry Allen just because Dallas took him?
Give the Packers credit for going and getting a guy who helped them.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
What I need is something more than "Tyron Smith could be Sam Baker."
I just don’t get your point by saying that.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
How about "Tyron smith could be Charles Brown too"?
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Well if we are dealing in conditionals
I suppose I could equivalently say “Tyron Smith could be Walter Jones.”
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
*hypotheticals not conditionals
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
Walter Jones was never suspended due to academic ineligibility
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Seriously? Was Sam Baker as athletic as Tyron?
Was Charles Brown as strong? If you can make baseless comparisons, so can I.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
It's funny, all the debates we've had on this forum about emotion and leadership and the role they play.
50% of you feel they don’t matter. That because these are grown men, professionals, someone motivating them is not necessary. They just go out and execute. Those have been the arguments anyways of that side, anyways.
Jason Garrett sure seems to disagree. Leadership and emotion are a huge part of football.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
I still think "leadership" is a bit overrated
But I think we drafted some guys who are self-motivators who wont need to be babysat. Thats a really good thing.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 1, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinda the flip side of the coin.
But do they get other guys to do more of the same.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on May 1, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I can agree with that.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 1, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Leadership is not overrated.
Leadership is accountability. Something that we lacked. It’s the intangibles…
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Im all about some accountability.
To be clear, I love guys who lead by example. Im not big on the rah-rah stuff. Now when a team is fired up collectively thats awesome. But that loud mouth, Keith Brooking, Tim Tebow stuff is phony.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 1, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol ....
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on May 1, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I HATE THE BRONCOS
…Had to get that out of my system.
But Tebow showed a little last year. At least he’s not phony.
I hope Brooking is cut tomorrow.
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
If it's the pre-game huddle/pep rally...
Brooking has even said he doesn’t particular like doing it. He knows some of the guys do like it and it gets some of them going, so he still did it. Yes, it came across as contrived and a little awkward sometimes. But, he seemed to be doing it because it became expected of him and he thought it helped the team, not because he was looking for attention or other “phony” reasons.
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its not just"leadership" but players who can learn the game & will give 100% every play.
they might not have all the athletic ability sometimes but in the game of football the IQ is becoming just as important as the athletic ability.
we dont have anymore roster space for divas or knuckleheads.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
I've always felt it matters more on the defensive end
On offense, you stay away from the star wrs and rbs who tend to be selfish. Olineman who put a lot of time in the weight room and work hard was going to be a requirement, especially after Brewster. Emotion matters on the lines, where the play is entirely physical.
At the skill positions and qb, I want technicians. Guys who master their craft. I don’t really give a crap about emotion there. And a guy who comes to work every day, plays hard and sets an example (ie Romo and Witten) is a leader.
Defensively, emotion matters – you need to hit guys! But theres a downside too. Jenkins wears his emotions on his sleeve, and he unfortunately lets it affect his play. In this area, I do kinda think you need leadership, because when its the fourth quarter and the D is tired, you need somebody to fire them up.
As talented as Dez Bryant is...
We all know he doesn’t exhibit leadership qualities.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Which makes the philophies of Garrett even more important
If Garrett brings in enough quality guys with leadership abilities, they can keep knuckleheads like Dez in line. You never hear anyone worry about knuckleheads getting drafted in places like New England, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore because everyone knows the leadership of the other players won’t allow them to rock the boat.
Well, it helps to be sure but Pittsburgh
couldn’t keep Santonio Holmes in line. The only way to completely avoid that is to avoid those players in the first place…
Don't believe everything you think.
Funny thing is Roethlisberger has never been arrested...
just questioned about several different incidents. It pays to have a posse with several cops in it and good lawyers.
10/18/2009 Jeff Reed Pittsburgh K_ Arrested outside restaurant near Steelers’ stadium, charged with resisting arrest, public intoxication after police say he raised fists while officers issued public urination citation to teammate Matt Spaeth. Charges of resisting arrest and simple assault dismissed, but ordered to 40 hours of community service.
10/18/2009 Matt Spaeth Pittsburgh TE Cited for public urination outside restaurant near Steelers’ stadium after game. Teammate Jeff Reed arrested as part of incident.
2/14/2009 Jeff Reed Pittsburgh K_ Cited for criminal mischief and disorderly conduct after allegedly throwing tantrum in restroom of convenience store. He allegedly damaged towel dispenser after finding it empty. Pleaded guilty, $544 in fines.
10/23/2008 Santonio Holmes Pittsburgh WR Pittsburgh police pulled him over, found marijuana cigars, a misdemeanor charge. Dropped. Prosecutors agreed search warrant wasn’t specific enough.
3/19/2008 Cedrick Wilson Pittsburgh WR Arrested and charged with simple assault, harrassment and disorderly conduct after allegedly hitting his former girlfriend in the face at bar. Team terminated his contract the next morning.
3/8/2008 James Harrison Pittsburgh LB Arrested on charges of simple assault and criminal mischief after police said he broke down a bedroom door at girlfriend’s home after she locked herself in. Dropped after alleged victim decided not to pursue case and Harrison completed anger management counseling.
10/4/2007 Najeh Davenport Pittsburgh RB Charged with domestic violence, child endangerment and unlawful restraint after incident involving mother of his 5-year-old son, who suffered a swollen lip.
5/10/2007 Richard Seigler Pittsburgh LB Arrested on charges he ran a prostitution ring in Las Vegas, three felony counts. Cut by team same day. Case dropped in March 2008.
3/4/2007 Deshea Townsend Pittsburgh CB Charged with simple assault after incident at club on Pittsburgh’s south side Dropped
8/6/2006 Barrett Brooks Pittsburgh OT Arrested after fleeing from Pittsburgh police on a motorcycle and charged with fleeing and eluding, reckless driving, driving at an
unsafe speed and other traffic violations. Apologized, pleaded guilty, court costs
6/19/2006 Santonio Holmes Pittsburgh WR Holmes was arrested and charged by Columbus, Ohio, police with two misdemeanor counts of domestic violence and simple assault. Dropped
5/27/2006 Santonio Holmes Pittsburgh WR Holmes was among hundreds of people arrested for disorderly conduct as part of a police crackdown on revelers who annually converge on Miami Beach during the Memorial Day weekend. Dropped after paying $250
2/18/2006 Trai Essex Pittsburgh OL Arrested, charged with disorderly conduct at nightclub in Miami Dropped
7/12/2002 Marvel Smith Pittsburgh OT Arrested on marijuana possession charges in Tempe, Ariz. Dropped
5/11/2002 Plaxico Burress Pittsburgh WR Arrested on a charge of public intoxication in Virginia Beach, Va. One-year deferral
12/24/2001 Plaxico Burress Pittsburgh WR Cited for carrying an open bottle of Corona beer in Cleveland at 1:45 a.m. Christmas Eve, arrest warrant issued when he failed to appear
http://www.signonsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/?appSession=512294426187962
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There's a nice list of Pats that have been arrested since Belichick took over too.
9/25/2010 Bret Lockett New England DB Arrested, charged with disorderly conduct in relation to incident outside club in Providence, R.I.
6/30/2008 Willie Andrews New England CB Arrested, charged with assault with a dangerous weapon and unlawful possession of a high-capacity firearm. He allegedly pointed gun at live-in girlfriend’s head. Released by team the next day.
4/27/2008 Nick Kaczur New England OL Arrested, charged with misdemeanor criminal possession of prescription painkillers after traffic stop. Pleaded guilty to speeding and accepted plea deal that will dismiss drug charge if he avoids trouble for six months.
2/26/2008 Kevin Faulk New England RB Issued a misdemeanor summons for marijuana possession in Lafayette, La., after routine search turned up four cigarettes. Pleaded no contest, suspended five-month jail sentence, 40 hours of community service, 20-hour substance abuse program, $300 fine, $231 in court costs.
2/5/2008 Willie Andrews New England CB Two days after Super Bowl, he was charged with possession of a half-pound of marijuana, with intent to distribute, and driving an unregistered Crown Victoria in Lowell, Mass.
6/25/2006 Johnathan Sullivan New England DL Arrested in Griffin, Ga., and charged with possession of marijuana, noise and seatbelt violation in traffic stop. Dropped
7/18/2004 Marquise Walker New England WR Arrested in Tampa, Fla., for driving under the influence. Released by team within week, two more DUI arrests in 2006
4/17/2004 Ty Law New England CB Arrested in the South Beach section of Miami after he allegedly led police on a brief car and foot chase. Dropped
10/21/2003 Kenyatta Jones New England OL Arrested for allegedly assaulting his roommate with scalding water. One year probation, team released him within days
12/27/2001 Bobby Hamilton New England DE Arrested for allegedly assaulting his wife at their Cumberland, R.I., apartment. Dropped
5/16/2001 Terry Glenn New England WR Arrested in Walpole, Mass., on domestic abuse charges. Dropped
3/7/2001 Adrian Klemm New England OT Arrested on a misdemeanor charge accusing him of punching another motorist’s windshield in a traffic dispute. one year probation, 50 hours community service, $455 compensation
http://www.signonsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/?appSession=252294425102799
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For those curious, this is our list since 2000
3/19/2011 Bryan McCann Dallas CB Arrested by Dallas police, charged with public intoxication.
2/2/2010 Deon Anderson Dallas FB Arrested because of outstanding traffic warrants. Police confiscated t
two weapons from his car, which was impounded.
1/10/2009 Anthony Spencer Dallas LB Arrested, charged with public intoxication, disorderly conduct outside Indianapolis bar.
11/11/2006 Marcus Coleman Dallas DB Arrested and charged with driving while intoxicated. Cut by team hours later.
12/30/2005 Terry Glenn Dallas WR Cited for public intoxication after urinating outside Jack In The Box restaurant.
2/14/2003 Peppi Zellner Dallas DE Arrested in Forsyth, Ga., and charged with possession of crack cocaine with intent to distribute. Dropped
1/14/2003 Dwayne Goodrich Dallas CB Charged with two counts of manslaughter after a deadly hit-and-run accident. Found guilty, serving 12 years in prison, ordered to pay $6 million
9/21/2000 Joey Galloway Dallas WR Charged with misdemeanor assault on a police officer in connection with a May 14 incident in Wheeling, W.Va. Dropped
4/17/2000 Tony Hutson Dallas OL Arrested for failure to appear in court on speeding charge. Police find pistol in his car, leading to weapons charge Weapon charge dropped
3/23/2000 Solomon Page Dallas OL Arrested in West Virginia on charges of disorderly conduct, obstructing police Pleaded no contest to lesser charge, fined $200
Same source as above.
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that depends on how you look at it...
Marion Barber in 2006 and 2007 came in and fired up the offense with his play. I think Dez Bryant does something similar. When you see him hurling defenders to the ground, its hard not to get excited, and I would bet the offense feels the same way. But hes a rare talent – there are few players in this league whose aggression with the ball in their hands can excite the team. Generally, I’d prefer wrs who run their routes well, catch the ball, and go about their business (like Miles). But we’ll see…the book on Dez has just started.
Exchange the RB for someone else and this draft doesn't look too bad.
That pick hurt. He’ll basically be a returner this year, maybe some 3rd down plays. But you can’t argue to much with the other choices, I guess. The talent was low this year. I didn’t like the WR in the 6th, but it’s the 6th round, why not?
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by Realist Larry on May 1, 2011 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I didn't like it at first either...
but knowing that Barber is gone, they picked up a guy who might be able to contribute immediately. And the situations in New Orleans and Green Bay last year show that you need as many good RB’s as possible.
..but they could be HUGE 3rd down plays.
Fourth quarter, offense is stalling, and down by a touchdown.
FEAR the STAR.
you do not know that
Murray looks to me to be better than Choice on paper. Unlike choice he is a strong pass protector, which means he can be key in 3rd downs, even 1/2nd down carries. He is also the best receiver out of the three. We’ll see, but i think Choice is still the 3rd best back even with barber out
Exactly.
Kenrick Ellis is facing up to 20 years, if convicted, on an assault charge.
Is that really the kind of guy that you want in the locker room? His head needs to be in the books, on capitalizing on every opportunity that he gets to become a starter.
http://www.nflhuddle.com/2011/04/30/kenrick-ellis-jets-kenrick-ellis-facing-felony-assault-charge/
FEAR the STAR.
Oh yeah, and when he gets 10/20 years in prison and you just wasted a 3rd round pick on him?
How much would we yell at Jerry then when he knew about this?
Dwayne Harris is a guy many say could be the steal of the draft
His stock plummeted because of a bad senior bowl, but the guy is a hard worker and is one heck of a slot receiver.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
*Steal of the Cowboys draft...
Let me clarify that a bit.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
i understand players stock dropping some when facing the best seniors at the bowl
but i don’t get how these players just jet up or down these boards based on combines, prodays going against air? i wonder if the big board is closer to being correct about the players career right when the season ends or after the combine?
late risers & workout warriors against air have fooled a lot of people. i wonder if Cam becomes a winner in the NFL like he’s been on all levels of his career or will his not so great combine make him the next J.Russell
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
See, this is what is interesting to me.
Both Murray and Carter were ranked as a top 20 prospect, overall….in November. At the end of the season, before Senior Bowls, Combines, Pro Days….based purely on football.
That’s very interesting.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Dwayne Harris was ranked 68th
by cbssports.com on Nov. 5th, 2010. I pulled their top 300 list for a post I was writing at the time and didn’t delete the file. Highly illuminating if you look at the changes from then till now.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 1, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, and that's a bit frustrating.
It also shows what hype can do in the draft. Cam Newton at #1? Never would have even contemplated that fact.
The Cowboys, obviously, base their rankings on actual football playing ability and results. See: Sean Lee, 2010.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember Brandon Spikes last year
His measureables turned off many teams, and what happens, Belichick drafts him and he’s a starter. You have to take everything into context, but the tape rarely lies factoring in the competition a player faces.
I liked Spikes over Lee in that draft
Everyone is thinks Lee is so great, and who knows he maybe; but I like a certain team in the Big Ten, who I won’t mention because I’m ashamed, the Coach seems to be an Idiot and a few players will miss the 1st have of the season this year; Anyway, Lee was good when he was on the field in collage and seems to be the same here in the NFL, when he’s on the field.
Now we draft Carter, who I actually thought would be a very good pick for us,….in the 3rd; but look the guy comes in to the league as damaged goods and maybe thats a good thing because if he wasn’t maybe he goes in the 1st, maybe; But, again were is he projected to play? Weak inside linebacker, backing up and or eventually starting for Brooking! Isn’t that were Lee plays? Or, and I know someone else mentioned it, can he accually move to Strong Saftety? I thought I read were he orginally was a Safety; Idon’t know I could have dreamed it, anyway, I like him better at ILB than safety, but it still brings up the question of Lee.
Well, I can live with the draft and I’m not going to argue over water under the bridge; Some DL help would have been nice, but really after the 3rd round who you going to take that would accually make a difference and we drafted pretty heavy in defence the last couple years, FA is still coming. I’ll feel better when and if thay accually sign Free, Wish they would have Franchized him. I can accually see them using Smith as a bargaining tool to try to low ball him and his agent having none of that and shoping him with stronger intent on leaving. I hope not.
Ok those are my pessamistic thoughts for the day.
I think that RR wants his ILBs
like his Safeties..Interchangable…
With the 9th Pick Dallas Selects Tyron Smith...Romo Weeps in Joy, and Bennet says"I might get to go out in the Pass Pattern now!"
by I am Ironman!!! on May 1, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that Lee is the heir...
Apparent to Bradie James. And that Carter will play Wilb next year when Brooking and James are gone.
by Cowick22 on May 1, 2011 6:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm generally not a fan of all the combine hype
but FiTaT’s work has convinced me somewhat. There are some drills that are good predictors, especially when it comes to pass rushing
I find it hard to believe that one 10 minute workout can significantly raise or lower a player’s stock, yet it happens year after year
he sounds like a good blocker & special teams guy more then anything.
it could mean the end of Sam Hurds time but it could be a replacement for someone who under preformed at special teams. i could possibly see more value (if Hurd didnt expect a ton of $) over keeping Ogletree. lets be honest Ogletree doesn’t upgrade this team as a 4th WR that sucks on special teams & his hands aren’t that dependable. i remember hearing the reference that his hands were so small that he looked like a little kid wearing white mickey mouse gloves during OTA’s.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
Murray protects the Cowboys from desperation in 2012
Since Barber will definitely be cut this year, Choice would have a lot of leverage if he’s the only other experienced back after Felix. Now, we don’t have to worry since we can trade Choice now if a good offer comes along. Not drafting a versatile RB like Murray this year might have forced a higher draft of RB in 2012.
by CowboyLang on May 1, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Remember the contract the Cowboys had to give Barber in 2008 because they didn't have any other options?
Situation avoided for 2012.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 1, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
no no no
didn’t have to give.
There are always options at RB.
Peruse the waiver wire, get a UFA. You telling me we “needed” Barber last year for his 3.3 yards a carry?
JJ didn’t have to give Barber anything. Should’ve let him go and brought in some young blood.
See: Ryan Grant.
Barber was a 4th round pick who got himself some publicity and turned it into a WAY too big contract. It was obvious (to me and 12 others) he wasn’t going to keep up that level of production. But JJ, like most here, was blinded by his style-which was indeed darn entertaining and inspiring.
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by Realist Larry on May 1, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say, they had CHOICE(s)
See what I did there?
:-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
that line of thinking can be used with the carter pick too
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
Great explanation Cowboy Lang
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 3:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You could say a "collage" of comments ;)
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on May 1, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Stocking for the future with a eye towards expiring contracts that you don't want to renew.
And upgrading at the same time.
Nice try at Justification, of course many chime in "Yes!"
But, sadly, wrong. RB’s NEVER have any leverage.
Let them all go! Draft some guys in the 5th – 7th, bring in UFA’s, watch the waiver wires.
RB is so easy to fill in the NFL.
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by Realist Larry on May 1, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not telling
Since those teams draft well, they don’t need several swings at the pitch to find a stud.
Hence my argument about Felix vs. Mendenhall and CJ2K.
Screw up a pick and you’ll be back at the table trying to make amends but, in the process, you’ll burn another chance to fill another need position.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
therefore, we needed to draft a 3rd down back with tons of carries and declining stats in the 3rd round?
When 2 guys are already here, know the playbook, and have had success?
Can’t follow that reasoning. This guy is NOT going to be a Top 15 in yardage in the NFL-ever. I’ll guarantee that.
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by Realist Larry on May 2, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
what he will or won't accomplish will have a lot to do with the guys playing in front of him
…and right now, that group is suspect.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
It just drives me crazy all the "anointing" going on
Most here never heard of Murray 4 days ago. Now, he’s the savior of the offense.
RB in the 3rd round? Never!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on May 3, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Well, I think they’d heard of him but never in a million years expected a RB to go that high with our other need areas.
The spin doctors will try to reassure us that Cisky knows best, but I am starting to believe he is the 2nd coming of Larry Lacewell.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
Man, I guarentee 1/2 the people here didn't know about this kid!
Only those who live in the SW, and college game freaks.
Entertaining reading these days, tho.
Sure beats the 4 months of posts before the draft! At least now we have some facts.
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on May 3, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
After Day 2, you would have thought the Cowboys might as well pack up and give up on the season itself.
But the key is, especially when you have a draft spread out over three days, to wait to judge until all is said and done. When it was over, there really was only ONE questionable selection, and even then they picked a guy that is a stand up, hard working and high-character player.
Every single one of these guys is “coachable” and has the potential to make an impact. History tells us that perhaps only 3, MAYBR 4 guys will actually stick with the team but you set the odds in your favor when you pick based on character and hard working attitudes, instead of based on skill alone. No more bad attitude players, instead you get guys that will come in and do what it takes to make the team. That’s all you can ask for.
These types of drafts are what make teams good for the long term and this draft was about fixing needs for not just this season but looking ahead long-term as well. What more could you ask for?
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+1
Murray is not only a stand up guy be he’s also a stand up type of RB. do you think his high pad level of running the ball will last long in the NFL?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
This is why I think he'll be more of a "Westbrook" type of back, and allow Felix to play more to his strengths.
They tried to turn Felix into a “receiving” running back, but it’s obvious he’s better with tosses, and just working naturally out of the backfield. Murray is more of a RB/WR clone, especially at the NFL level. I think.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you read any of the articles that stated he was as good a AP except for the injuries?
You know things like that more often then not are the difference between greatness and fading away in to obscurity, with only thought of what could have been, if only this or that would have oe would’nt happened.
I hate to be a neigh sayer, but man this crap of drafting injured guys based on what they could be when healthy and are back to 100% suck in IMHO.
Not saying they won’t be good,but people after 41 years I don’t drink the coolaide anymore and I only believe what is prooven on the field of play!
seems like murray
Is going to make or break the draft.
I know it wasn’t a need, but my impression isn’t that the Cowboys view him as purely a third down back, as some in these parts have implied. Sub 4.4 speed(If I’m not mistaken, Murray had the best speed score of any back taken in the first three rounds) and 70 catches last year at a major program tells me he could end up sharing the load with Felix, and soon, which would make sense, given the checkered injury history of both. I like Choice, but he didn’t perform that well the last four games against division rivals, which may have hurt him in the eyes of the coaching staff.
I’m still worried about the secondary, but if they address that in free agency, then I think it is forgivable to have added to other areas in the draft.
he's like a hybrid RB/WR with his RB vision & hands like a WR.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth! Garrett & Ryan working as a team should create a physical environment at Valley Ranch that shows up on gameday.
Agreed, but with a semantic shift
I think the draft is already made—the degree to which Murray and Carter are successful is the degree to which it can/ will be a GREAT draft—equal to 2005
I think a safety will make this secondary look so much better than last year
and Thomas is a good pick. He will contribute in the near future.
As soon as he scores his first TD
we’ll all be in love with him
by somebodyquiet on May 1, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
short, but it's goot some really good, really impressive stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRL2h7_yLyI
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by falconPUNCH on May 1, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look at the :10 mark, third play.
How quickly he shifts from one defender to the next on a stunt, and gets back to the outside to block the rusher. Wow.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, look at him pulling. I see more than 1 play where he takes out 2-3 defenders on 1 play.
And I didn’t know he blocked a kick. That lead to a TD recovery for USC. Very impressive.
:40
on the play starting at 0:4o, look at how the opposing player that Smith is charging down on just seems to buckle and crumble to the ground on his own as Smith approaches.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 1, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
:26
Wow. Wow. Wow.
This guy is completely unlike any other linemen we’ve had.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
From what I saw of the footage
He gets to the second level pretty well and there were plenty of times I saw him driving his guy back all the way to the whistle. I loved that.
Of course, he was one of the biggest guys on the field, if not THE biggest, and that wasn’t as tough for him to do as it’ll be in the NFL.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Jason Garrett thinks Tyron does finish his play rather well
If you watch him play, he blocks his guy a lot in the run game, he blocks his guy a lot as a pass protector, he finishes pays. He’s the kind of guy we like. Watch him at the end of a down, watch him finish, watch the passion that he has. We think he’s a great worker, we think he’s a great young man and a great addition to our football team.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 1, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
From what I've seen, he finishes his plays very well and is aggressive in the run game.
I’ve liked this guy for months now and he’s the one guy I was content for the Cowboys to stick with at #9. So I’m a bit biased.
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by Brandon Worley on May 1, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
When it comes to pass protection...
he looks a tad slow footed to me at times, and he doesn’t stonewall people, but he generally keeps them away from the qb. Hopefully the added strength will help.
Hes good in the run game. He gets downfield fast, and he puts defenders on the ground. I don’t think I’ve seen our lineman do the stuff he can do. Go his direction on a screen play or toss and watch him go to work.
Some thoughts about the Garrett's remarks
1) He was sending a Phil Jackson/Jimmy Johnson style of message to the team through the media.
2) Message to Recpient #1: Dez Bryant, you better get your bleeping act together. Garrett’s comments about guys wanting to the do the right thing, loves being around teammates, and loves going to work, were pointed at Dez for his inability to learn the full playbook last year; his bitching antics on Thanksgiving; his unpaid jewelry bills; and most of all his not showing up to Valley Ranch on Friday, even if it was excused by Jerry. Dez could have made the effort, come by spoken to Jerry, Jason, and his new Wrs coach. Dez won’t be handed a starter’s role unless he continues to stay focused on football, and on being accountable.
3) Message to Recipents #2 an#3: Marion Barber and Tashard Choice if you expect to make this roster, you will wear a suit and tie on road trips (Barber), if you expect to have playing time increased, then you will do whatever the team asks of you, namely if you’re asked to play special teams, you will play special teams (Choice). Furthermore, just cause you made emotional locker room speeches that we can dial up on youtube doesn’t mean you’re the right guy if your going to demand increased playing time when you’re not fully committed to what the team expects of you.
4) Message to Recipient #4: Marty B, do you truely love football? Or do you love what football has provided you? Are you a team guy? Right now you’ve proven that you’re more in love with being an NFL player because people actually care whatever garbage comes out of your mouth, whether it involves race, or whether it’s openly questioning the abilities, leadership, and competence of your QB. Terrell Owens was a superstar, he threw Romo under the bus, and his ass was dropped like a turd in a toilet bowl. You on the other hand haven’t proven you belong in the league yet, and you flap your gums like your name is Kellen Winslow (the father). John Phillips, whose a late rd/udfa type of prospect, in his rookie season proved he’s better than you. It’s time to put up or shut up Marty B.
5) Message to Recipients #5, 6, 7, and 8: Roy Williams, Kevin Ogletree, Sam Hurd, and Jesse Holley, I hope you don’t mind a little extra competition for your roster spot this season. You guys need to understand that just cause you’re veterans doesn’t mean you’re automatically making this team. You haven’t arrived by merely displaying a moment or two of brilliance (Ogletree). You can’t make this team if we can’t count on your services because of injuries (Hurd). You can’t making this team if you continue to talk like you’re starter but don’t have the focus and drive to sustain what ever little moments of success you accomplish (Roy Wiliams). Just cause you were the victor on Michael Irvin’s Reality Show in 2009, and just cause you made the jump from Practice Squad to GameDay roster in 2010, doesn’t mean it’s time to stop working (Holley).
6) Message to the team about FINISHING PLAYS: Remember the dominating performance of football we displayed from the end of the 2009 season culminating in back to back blowouts against Philly? Remember the 60 yard block downfield Doug Free made on the useless Eagles Db to spring Felix Jones loose? Remember the hard earned victories against Houston, New York, Indianapolis, Detroit, Washington, and Philly? What did all those wins and plays have in common? We finished what we started. We put our hearts, and bodies into those games for 4 quarters and change (Indy) and came away with the W. Now, I shouldn’t have to remind you, but I will, indirectly that the reason we lost to: Washington, Chicago, Minnesota, Tennessee, New York, Jacksonville, Green Bay, New Orleans, Philly, and Arizona last year; or for all of the late season collapses/meltdowns from 2006-2009 was because we either didn’t have are our hearts and minds in the game or because we just couldn’t finish. Gentlemen, we need to keep pounding at that rock, like a mine worker. We need to put every ounce of our blood, sweat, and tears into this process. Every day you need to do things that will help this team get better and ultimately win.
It all comes back full circle to loving football, being accountable to yourself, your teammates, your coaches, and your family. If you’re Dez Bryant, it also means being accountable to your financial obligations. Because if you can’t pay your bills, how the hell are you going to be accountable to the team?
Disclaimer: I am a Dez Bryant fan.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 2:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 7 recs
Needs to be a Fan Post.....
Rec’d
With the 9th Pick Dallas Selects Tyron Smith...Romo Weeps in Joy, and Bennet says"I might get to go out in the Pass Pattern now!"
by I am Ironman!!! on May 1, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Outstanding comment Rohpuri,agree with ironman-fanpost. rec'd.
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on May 1, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I guess I don't see what not paying your bills...
has to do with loving football and being accountable to your team. He’s a young kid, from a poor background; he’s got some things to learn. But it is clear to me he loves football and he comes to work.
When you're earning a multi-million dollar contract
At the age of 22, the law imposes a duty on you to act like a reasonable millionare in similar circumstances. Presumably, he should have either picked up this life lesson either in college (where 18 year olds begin to fend for themself), from his dealings with Deion, or from his Cowboys teammates and his mentor. He’s had opportunities to pick up on this either in actuality or he should have understood this implicitly, from growing up (someone, a relative, in his family must have been responsible for him to make it this far).
The the lawyer and non-lawyer in me feels for Dez and his ridiculous upbringing, and see’s that he’s actually a good kid. However, I see that he still has maturing to do, and that he needs to understand an accept that when you agree to make this amount of money, there are increased responsibilities and duties of care that he needs to abide by. Fair or unfair, that’s the way our society operates. A reasonable NFL player is held to understand jewlery bills need to be paid on time, because a reasonable millionaire would pay those bills, regardless of the real life examples of insolvency we see every day.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 9:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
LMAO @ "reasonable millionaire"
Oh man, that was GOOD!!!!!
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- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
by 5Blings on May 1, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew someone would get a kick out of it.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I agree he loves football, however...
That love of football doesn’t automatically mean you will be accountable to your teammates, coaches, and MOST of all, YOURSELF. When you screw up, you say yup my bad, I need to learn from this and move on. If you’re not getting more balls or more playing time, you don’t bitch about it on Thanksgiving during a game, or don’t refuse to play on special teams (Tashard Choice), you ask your coaches during practice week what Is it that you haven’t done that they’d like you to do so that they CAN TRUST you know to handle BOTH THE BENEFITS & BURDENS arising from the INCREASED ROLE THAT YOU DESIRE.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 9:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
we need a sledgehammer at RB to compliment Jones. Instead we drafted another 3rd down back. Why we need two Felix Joneses on our team is beyond me.
Finesse back?
Have you seen Murray play. He’s 214 lbs, and he LOOKS for contact. He finishes runs.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on May 1, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agree. Murray is not a dancer like Felix was in college.
Murray is a one cut runner generally speaking with great burst.
If I had a nickel for every time the Eagles won the Super Bowl, I would have zero nickels
THIS, is also true.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 9:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He should LOOK to stay healthier
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
To All PPL saying we should've drafted a "thumper" instead
I submit that he’s already on said roster, in the form of Lonyae Miller. Before being injured his senior season at Fresno State, 2009, he WAS the starter over Ryan Matthews, whom the Chargers overpaid for in last year’s draft.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on May 1, 2011 8:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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