Go BIG or Go HOME: Kevin Ogletree

In the 6th round of the NFL Draft just a few weeks ago the Cowboys drafted a perfect fit for their slot wide receiver position. Dwayne Harris from ECU is going to make this team in my opinion. He is the answer that we have been looking for in the slot. Harris reminds me of Miami Dolphins wide receiver Davone Bess, so yeah that's how highly I think of Dwayne Harris. The Harris selection sends a message to one player in particular, Kevin Ogletree.


Kevin Ogletree
WR
Virginia
6'1 198
40 yard dash: 4.36 vertical jump: 36
After the debacle that was the 2009 NFL Draft I was really bummed that we didn't add a wide receiver to the fold. Mike Wallace was there for the taking, but we passed. The Cowboys then signed a UDFA wide receiver by the name of Kevin Ogletree. Ogletree was a athletic standout wide receiver for the University of Virginia. I said that summer that "The Tree" or "KO" will make the team. Everyone over at www.dallascowboys.com laughed at me and said I was crazy, Well I am not crazy after all because Ogletree did make the team.
Ogletree had a nice 2009 season, especially on special teams. He was a willing and productive player on the teams unit. He was also a productive player on the kick off unit and showed his speed returning kicks. He didn't get too many chances on the field and only assembled 7 catches for 96 yards. In the preseason we did get to see him light it up though. He made an amazing one handed catch for a touchdown against the Titans. Right then I said if we give this kid time and he works hard, we could have a nice slot wide receiver.
So entering the 2010 training camp I thought this would be The Year of The Tree. This of course never matriculated into anything of the KO campaign. Dez Bryant was added to the fold and Ogletree would start off as the 4th wide receiver after Crayton was traded. Then Ogletree displayed something I fear every season coming into training camp, the NFL went to his head. Ogletree developed a lazy attitude and didn't work as hard like he did in his rookie season. He suffered multiple nagging injuries and that showed he was never in shape. Our wide receivers coach at the time Sherman suggested Ogletree had "hit the wall". So from the beginning of training camp Ogletree had the wrong attitude.
I really believe Ogletree's attitude is what kept him inactive the most of the regular season last year. Then injuries began to catch up to our wide receiver core and Ogletree was active again. He never did anything of importance either. He then went down with another injury which ended his season. So the year I thought this kid was going to surpass Roy Williams on the depth chart never happened. But I do believe there is a good chance Ogletree can step up this year, the problem with him is if HE wants to.
Now the Cowboys have added a true slot wide receiver to compete with Ogletree this summer. Dwayne Harris will make this team folks. So now Ogletree has his fait in his hands. He needs to drop all the BS at the door when he comes here and get back to the hard working kid Cowboys fans fell in love with back in 2009. Ogletree is a very good athlete and wide receiver. He is really fast and has the quickness to make people miss. He has tremendous hands and can make all the hard catches. The thing that is holding him back is his route running.
This is where Jimmy Robinson steps in folks. In my opinion we added the best wide receiver coach in the business, to me that's a huge coaching upgrade. Jimmy Robinson has coached Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jordy Nelson. He coached a Super Bowl winning wide receiver core that had a variety of weapons. You know who I think Ogletree can become on this team? I think he will be our James Jones. Both have that muscular build to them and have great speed. Green Bay had their wide receivers running great routes and this is where Robinson and Ogletree need to spend some together. I believe Jimmy Robinson is going to transform Ogletree into a good NFL wide receiver this summer.
Ok so Dez and Miles will be the outside starting wide receivers, that's not even up for debate. What gets sticky is the Roy Williams situation. The guy is not made out for the slot position. He is too big and goofy for starters. He trips over anything on the field and is not smooth enough to be a slot receiver. So were going to have to keep Roy on the bench and use him in the jump ball situations. Roy is a decent redzone wide receiver, so lets utilize him where he is good. Roy would be happy because he gets his touchdown catches. it's a win win for everyone.
Then we take Ogletree and Harris and make them our slot wide receivers. These two are perfect for the slot. Both are fast and quick, they also should be running crisp routes by then. What we can do is employ both of them in the slot. We can just run a timeshare in the slot, alternating the two according to the play or formation. That way your have your best personnel out there on the field at any given time. This will be a well coordinated plan that allows you to play your guys depending on the match up. Oh we need a big guy for the redzone, Roy your in. Ok we need speed guy for the slot, KO your in. Ok we need our possession and quick speed guy, Harris your in.
If Roy Williams really cares about the team and winning, he should accept his role. If Ogletree cares about the team and winning, he should accept his role as well. Jimmy Robinson has a lot of talent in Dallas, I think more talent here than he had in Green Bay. Ogletree could develop into our James Jones. That slot job is wide open right now. If Ogletree doesn't show up, work hard and lose that attitude of his than he will not be a part of the Dallas Cowboys. It is time to go big, or go home for Kevin Ogletree. He has the talent to he a good NFL player, but does he have the mindset? We should find out soon enough.
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I really hope Ogletree comes back strong Chia
I was definitely pegging him for a big year last year, and was bummed about his lack of production. I keep asking myself did making the Cowboys go to his head? He lost the trust of the coaches that he had gained at the end of 09, especially in the games against the Eagles. I think the Boys drafting Dez played a major part in his confidence plummeting. He was supposed to be Crayton with speed as the number 3, and now he was right back where he was, except Dez is far superior to Crayton.
If he comes back with fire in his ass, like the UDFA that he is, he has a chance, with the new coaching and no more “Keep it Real Thursdays” to bring his career back to life. Otherwise, Harris might eat him for breakfast. Competition in the wide receiver core is a great thing, and I agree, Chia, the Cowboys would be served well to make him and Roy situation players. If he does not shine in a big way, he might be left out in the pasture while Harris rides.
Let's hope Jason got a little Jimmy in him and I'm not talking about Beam!
I agree
something was wrong in his whole approach last year
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions
No
Ogletree has wiggle but something is missing.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
yeah
like I said I am pulling for him, but at the same time it wouldnt shock me to see him cut
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions
his hands are missing.
he’s got hands the size of a 10 yr old.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Well, that's a problem then
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
look at that one handed catch tho
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
He’ll be OK. I think we may have had our expectations way too high but I think he will seize this opportunity to grab hold of the 4th WR position. Moreover, I think Harris is on the roster to replace Hurd.
yeah
I think our expectations were too high for him entering last season
I would keep both Harris and Ogletree on the team
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Hurd vs. Ogletree vs. Harris
Because Ogletree does not really contribute on special teams, I think he is actually in the hot seat. You can’t have your 4th WR not contribute on ST. I think it is one reason Holly replaced Ogletree on the roster at times during 2010.
In my opinion, Ogletree not only needs to improve his practice and preparation (rumors in 2010 were that he certainly wasn’t giving it his all like 2009) and become a better WR, he also has to find a way to contribute on ST if he is to stayon the roster.
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thats the problem
Ogletree isnt a ST player, he is too small and isnt used to tackling
Ogletree really has potential at WR, but the problem is we now have Harris who i think is perfect for the slot
what it boils down to is exactly what your getting at, you need your #4 and #5 WR’s to contribute on ST’s
that is why Holley is on the team, not because he is a good WR, but he is a great teams player
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen
If you’re name is not Roy Williams, Dez Bryant, or Miles Austin and you do not play well on Special Teams (especially coverage teams) you will not be on this team.
I like what you have to say about Jimmy Robinson, I think he is one of the best, but be careful making the leap that he can turn Tree into one of those guys. Ray Sherman coached Randy Moss, Cris Carter, T.O., and Donald Driver, yet he wasn’t able to get anything out of him. Coaches are important but they don’t make someone a player if he isn’t one. I don’t think he is one. Question is not, will he be James Jones (no chance). Question is will he make the team?
OBVIOUS: Austin, Bryant, Williams
DRAFTED AND WILL GET BENEFIT OF DOUBT: Harris
ST: Holley
ON THE BUBBLE: Manny Johnson and Ogletree*
And if my pet cat Jeff Maehl (ultimate slot guy), gets signed as a UDFA, forget him.
Don't forget...
AFL hero Troy Bergeron. I’d put him in the “ON THE BUBBLE” list as well. I’d actually put him over Manny Johnson at this point. All Manny has ever done is a passable imitation of opponent WR’s on the PS.
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by lonewolfz28 on May 24, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
you're right
Didn’t realize he was still under contract.
Where ....
is the rule that says when R Williams comes in the game he has to play the slot? Why cant M Austin move into the slot when the 3rd WR comes in the game? I’m as disapointed in R Williams as anybody else but he is still better than Ogletree and (this year anyway) he is better than Harris.
because Roy is a scrub
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
There was talk of that prior to 2010
That Garrett was working on some schemes where Austin moved into the slot. Didn’t do in much during the season and limited offseason my reduce that option as well, but I do like the idea of matching up Austin against slot CB and Safeties with Dez and Roy playing the tall physical WR roles on the outside.
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"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
you can put Austin in the slot or Dez
either one would be fine there
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
R Willimas
is way overpaid but he is not a scrub. If all things were equal and Williams, HArris, and Ogeltree drew the same paycheck nobody would say put Harris or Ogletree on the field before Williams. Yes he is way overpaid, yes he has been a disapointment but get over it he is on the team and he is easily the 3rd best WR on this team deal with it.
dont sugarcoat it
he is a scrub
if he played the way he played in the Titans and Texans game Id be a happy man
remember how good he was in Detroit, well we got the fake Roy
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by Archie Barberio on May 21, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah......
i have no idea what im sugar coating but its obvious you have taken the fact Jerry overpaid for R Williams as some personal attack on yourself. Get over it. The trade and the contract were a mistake and its not even arguable that they werent but Ogletree and Harris still arent even near his level.
I need you to define what a scrub is since there are 31 other teams that would love to have a #4 option in the passing game that catches 7 TD’s.
but Roy was brought in as a #1
and he was the #2 WR last year, so producing like a 4 is a scrub to me
wake up man the dude is a bum
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by Archie Barberio on May 21, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
pecking order
Miles#1, Witten #2, Bryant #3, Williams #4 …. overpaid yes, underperforming the contract yes, 5 TD’s last year (all with Romo)7 the year before last year …. not a bum and better than anything Ogletree or Harris could do. Your putting your faith in someone who wasnt good enough to be active most games last year and a 6th round draft pick all because you feel personally betrayed that somebody isnt living up to his contract. If you looked at it from a strickly football standpoint you couldnt possibly come to the conclusion that either one of those guys is better than R Williams. You can make a case that Ogeltree and Harris (whatever he signs for) are better contracts but there is no case that they are better football players.
Roy is a scrub
When he was in Detroit, they sucked. They were behind so much they had to throw to keep up. So that made his numbers very deceptive. His best yr came under Martz’ offense where anybody can get 1000 yards. We shoulda got Megatron instead of that slew footed fool… Im sure Mayhew had to put Jerry on hold to laugh when he made that deal
by dcsince77 on May 21, 2011 8:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
dudes a scrub, end of discussion
production as a #4, lmfao the dude was our #2 last year
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by Archie Barberio on May 21, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Should change your sig to Another Chia Knee Jerk Reaction!
Wars are won in the trenches and we need some new big uglies!
by BigDinLA on May 21, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah that'w the better to maximize the talents of our receivers
roy in the slot would be like 10 vs 11, outside by the other hand he can work out and miles in the slot can eat any single slot corner in the league
that I agree with
because Roy on the outside with Romo was putting in work man, if Roy can play at the level he was playing with Romo, especially the Titans and Texans games you can work Miles in the slot and Dez and Roy on the outside
but if Roy doesnt reach that level of play again, you need to bench him for Harris or Ogletree
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i didn't see the comparsion with Harris & Bess
Bess is fast, shifty & gets up to top speed very quick. Harris reminds me more of P.Crayton.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
na he likes like Bess
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
he is like Welker where they are quick than top speed
but he reminds me alot more of Davone Bess
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by Archie Barberio on May 21, 2011 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Bess is much more realistic.
Probably Bess is his best case scenario.
Wars are won in the trenches and we need some new big uglies!
yes I would agree
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by Archie Barberio on May 21, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
After the debacle that was the 2009 NFL Draft I was really bummed that we didn’t add a wide receiver to the fold.
Manny Johnson was selected with our 2nd pick in the 7th round in 2009. He was also supposed to be that “more quick than fast”, slot type receiver with good hands and toughness coming out of college.
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yeah
Manny was a 7th rounder dude come on and he isnt as talented as Ogletree either
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Ogletree has serious talent man, he needs to get his head right tho
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
What's up Chia
So glad to see someone post something on ‘Tree. I have been considering it myself, but could’nt quite settle on an approach. Your statement “he needs to get his head on right tho” is money. However, I kind of have a theory on that. Could it be perhaps his reported “attitude” wasn’t so much diva like or laziness as it was frustration and maybe a little intimidation at the daunting task of having to learn the x,y,and z playbook in the comprehensive manner, if memory serves, the Cowboys required of him starting early last season. I took this as a good sign, in that I don’t think the other receivers have been saddled with the same expectations. I mean, I doubt Roy has been expected to get in a lot of slot work , for instance. This has probably led to a lot of overthinking on Ogletrees’ part which prevents him from using the sublime change of direction and quickness capacity he possesses. So, for me, “getting his head right”, means getting all this info processed and applied in a 2nd nature kind of way, so he can play as quick and fast as he actually is. If he does this,… It Is On. Cuz really, with the exception of power, no other Cowboy receiver has the same volume of physical attributes, nor to the same degree, as Ogletree. So, we all should hope he’s able to conquer this learning curve.
yeah
he definitely could be frustrated, but thats part of the game when your an UDFA
I hope he puts it all together, dude has serious speed and talent
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by Archie Barberio on May 21, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
bubble screen
to Ogletree is a money play, dude is fast
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by Archie Barberio on May 20, 2011 1:52 PM CDT reply actions
That play is played out
The last few times they ran that he only got a yard or two it seemed like. Everyone was waiting for it after his first few big yardage gainers with it.
word
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by Archie Barberio on May 21, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Receivers that can only run one play
Aren’t worth anything in the NFL.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 22, 2011 3:27 AM CDT up reply actions
So they keep the fast guy that has a bad attitude
dosen’t study the playbook, etc. And then they run off the smart kid that gets open all the time is is a good slot receiver.
Let there be no mistake
This is Ogletree’s make or break season. Hell, his make or break training camp to be honest.
Either he’s going to show the coaches something in training camp or he’s going to be off this roster.
And if there’s no training camp, I think the draft pick would win out over the UDFA that’s only caught 11 passes in his 2-year career.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 22, 2011 3:26 AM CDT reply actions
yup
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by Archie Barberio on May 22, 2011 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with your take on Jimmy Robinson
The Packers have done a great job their WR corps. They moved people to where the mismatch existed. Greg Jones in the slot or outside. Nelson outside(note the SB). Driver both spots. James Jones on the outside……The point is they all can run good routes in order to get open…..Hopefully Jimmy Robinson can bring this skill set and willingness to create mismatches to the Boys’ WR corps and offense this year.
yeah
those wr’s ran excellent routes, I hope thats a idea taught here by Jimmy
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by Archie Barberio on May 22, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
their routes weren't that great
neither were their hands. They were open b/c the steelers have an awful coverage secondary that hides behind an epic front 7. The pack had em blocked so Rogers could pick his man.
If anything, I’m concerned about Robinson b/c of all the drops by Jones/Nelson.
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If we had an offseason I might say Yes
but who knows when Robinson will get a chance to coach the Tree, and what we have seen from him up to this point shouldn’t create a lot of expectations that he’s going to make great strides on his own without a coaching structure. Ogletree is one guy who I think is esp hurt by the lockout. Does he make the team? Maybe, maybe not. A lot depends on his attitude and his special teams play. I could see Holley making the team over him just because he’s more versatile on STs. If he does make the team another year, then he could be our James Jones in 2012, with a season and offseason with Robinson, but not this year.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
thats true
he is really hurt by the time off here, if I were him I would be working out really hard and running routes everyday that way whenever it does start up your in great shape and have improved your route running
if Ogletree ran precise routes, he would be very similar to Terry Glenn imo
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by Archie Barberio on May 22, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

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