2011 Cowboys Draft Picks: Josh Thomas Scouting Report
Josh Thomas comes to the Cowboys from the University of Buffalo. We wanted to talk to someone who had watched him play football throughout his college career, who had seen more than just the highlight tapes and the workouts. So we asked Bull Run, SB Nation's Buffalo, blog to weigh-in on the new cornerback.
Make the jump for the scouting report...
He is an exceptional cover corner, what sets him apart is how he takes care of the run despite his small frame. Thomas thrived as a corner who would blitz or come in high to top the run. The best way to sum up his style of play is aggressive.
In pass coverage he has nice body control and makes solid adjustments so as to make a play on the ball. You can see from his combine video that Thomas can switch direction without losing much, if any, speed. When he does make a mistake he has very good closing speed to make up for it.
Is at his best in off-man coverage when he can keep the play in front of him. Jumps well and flashes the awareness to deflect passes against bigger receivers. Has started since his freshman season.
On the down side:
Thomas is not big enough to go up against some of the taller NFL receivers, this most comes across when asked to jam them at the line. Trusts his speed too much at times and takes poor angles to the ball, this works in the college level but most NFL receivers can make him pay for this.
He is so run centered that he can get caught looking into the backfield and allows craftier receivers to get behind him. Suffered a concussion as a sophomore.
The Concussion has come up a couple of times as a 'concern' but Thomas is a four year starter who had just two such injuries and the last time was in his sophomore year.
Thomas is one heck of a kid who would have had the spotlight on a lot of MAC defenses, but at Buffalo he was in the backfield with four time all conference safety Davonte Shannon. Still he never seemed to have an issue with the lack of attention.
He never 'gave up' during a disastrous 2011 season on a defense that was hung out to dry by a turnover prone offense. He was focused on every play weather UB was in the game or not.
How will Dallas use him?
He is fast, a solid tackler, and is good at creating turnovers, all of that screams special teams status for a fifth round pick. I would be very surprised if he does not end up on kickoff and punt coverage this season while the coaches help him work through some issues with big receivers at the line.
I also see him as a factor in your nickel and dime packages either this year or next. Long term I don't see why he can't be out there in your regular sets once he gets some work at the NFL level.
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love this kid
it wasnt cool when they thought we took JT Thomas LB WV when we took Josh JT Thomas CB Buffalo
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
This kid played on a state championship team in Cedar Hill a DFW 5A HS.
Texas has the best HS football in the nation and DFW has the best teams in Texas. He’s been well coached and played highly competitive football all his life. I really hope he makes it with the Boys.
Lock n Load
We drafted a New York Giant???
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
LOL
Wow Blings. Just wow. =p
If something in sports is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, you've lived a pretty good life.
Come on, admit it...
you were thinking it too.
:-)
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
huh?
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 2, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
the Uni, chia
The UNI!!!!
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
lol I see now
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 2, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm intrigued by his teammate
Davonte Shannon
by nicholas.rodriguez on May 2, 2011 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
Shannon had an awful 40 during his junior pro day, turned folks off to him
He ran better this year but its had for a guy in a mid major program to shake off a bad day.
Were it not for the lockout someone would have taken him by now I am wondering if he gets picked up in the UFL draft and if he follows through or waits for the lockout to end.
"Thomas thrived as a corner who would blitz"
Ryan must be liking this. Another characteristic that reminds one of Scandrick (coincidentally exactly same draft spot as Scandrick, #143).
Seems like a solid pick who will help out on STs, and add nice depth to our defensive backfield and see some time in spread subpackages.
At the Senior Bowl/Shrine/Texas vs. the universe games, the players bring their school mascot stickers with them
…and trade them like baseball cards.
Obviously, Richmond (spiders) was well represented.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
thats pretty cool
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 2, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Benefits of having a neighbor friend who is a scout
I got to see it up close and personal a few times at the Shrine game.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
cool
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 3, 2011 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Did this guy actually watch him play
or does he just have a habit of contradicting himself .
“He is an exceptional cover corner” or “He’s at his best in off-man coverage”
Hun.
“Thomas is not big enough to go up against some of the taller NFL receivers, this most comes across when asked to jam them at the line.’
“He is so run centered that he can get caught looking into the backfield and allows craftier receivers to get behind him”
So crafty and tall receivers give him a problem.
Sounds like an exceptional cover corner we got.
Boy this is going to be fun.
I like my guy better.
Ahmad Black
Black is no combine star. His measurables do not jump off the page at you. On paper he is small (5’9" 185-lbs) and slow (4.83 40). On the field he is a quarterback’s worst nightmare.
Black has a great ability to read coverages as well as the quarterback’s eyes which allows him to consistently make plays on the ball. In his first year as a starter, the under recruited Black, led the nation in interceptions with seven picks in 14 games.
Not only is Black a relentless ball hawk he hits like a truck and loves playing in big games,
In his final season in the Swamp he garnered All-SEC and All-American honors while leading the team in tackles with 102, recovering two fumbles and recording three picks. TODD MCSHAY in the PalmBeachPost.com
Production: Told he would never play at the University of Florida by then head coach Urban Meyer, Black proved doubters wrong. A three year starter for the Gators at the strong safety position, Black outperformed all expectations. He showed a knack for being in the right spot at the right time, accumulating 13 interceptions over his career. Black also showed great instincts against the run leading the Gators in tackles with 107 (74 solo) in 2010.
Height-Weight-Speed: At 5’9’’ 1/2, 187-pounds, Black has less than ideal size for the position, causing some unsureness about whether or not he will be able to play at the safety position at the next level. Black could have helped his cause by running well at the Combine or his Pro Day, but instead he ran in the mid to high 4.7 -4.8 range — much slower than the norm for his position. Despite these obvious deficiencies, put on his tape and Black always seems to be around the ball. He makes up for his lack of speed with his intelligence, quick feet, and great route recognition. Black plays bigger than he is listed but will be overmatched against bigger Tight Ends.
Durability: Didn’t miss a game during his three years as a starter for the Gators. However, his size could prove for some concern for injury at the next level.
Intangibles: Voted a team-captain his senior year, Black has shown an ability to shine in big moments. Intercepting Sam Bradford in the National Championship game as a sophomore, and returning an interception for a TD to secure the win against Penn State in his final college game, shows as much.
Overall Stock: Despite being listed as the #2 safety on many boards, the position is very weak in this year’s draft. His slow 40-yard dash times coupled with concerns of his size, Blacks stock is quickly falling. Only one head coach showed up for Florida’s Pro Day, but luckily for Black, it was an unconventional coach with a propensity for taking Gators, Bill Belichick.
NFL Comparisons: Bob Sanders
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So we take the guy who as the scouts see: "Thomas did not emerge as a consistent performer as an upperclassman, but he still started ten games in 2009 and had another quality campaign. He broke up nine passes, forced yet another fumble and tallied 45 tackles. The numbers in 2010 were quite similar. Yet again Thomas lacked consistency, but was around to make some big plays too. He also did a little more blitzing during his senior campaign and did a fine job getting into the backfield and getting to the quarterback or stopping a rush attempt.
From FFToolbox.com http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2833#ixzz1LFOjlXmP"
Instead of “2010: A Consensus First-Team All-SEC pick by the coaches’, AP and Phil Steele…Named to the SEC Football Community Service Team…Named to the Phil Steele Midseason All-American Fourth Team…Eighth in the country for defensive backs with a team-leading 102 tackles (fifth in the SEC, firstamong SEC defensive backs)…Tied for third in the country and first in the SEC for most interceptions in a game (2 vs. USF in 2010)…Tied for eighth in the SEC and the team lead with three interceptions, along with three other Gator teammates (Jon Bostic, Jeremy Brown and Janoris Jenkins), while starting on the kickoff and punt coverage teams…Recorded at least six tackles in all but three regular-season games this year, and double-digit tackles in four of his last seven games…Black, the 2011 Outback Bowl MVP, finished his career with 13 interceptions, which is tied for fourth most in school history. The three-year starter also notched 244 total tackles, including 14 tackles for loss. He is tied for second on the SEC’s all-time list with three interception returns for a touchdown and fourth in SEC history with 362 yards in interception returns…”
Yup. JJ’s got this.
you know I like Black but here we go
first off, how the hell is Ahmad Black gonna cover anyone when he is SMALLER and SLOWER than Thomas?
I love Ahmad Black but not over this kid JT Thomas
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 2, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And he's no Bob Sanders
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
Ahmad Black = Smaller version of Roy Williams, IN THE BOX SAFETY
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
You do know
that you can be a good player and still have flaws, right? You know, like Ahmad Black does? Just because an article points out flaws doesn’t mean they’re contradictory. There is no perfect NFL player.
by Admiral Dallas on May 3, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Long time reader...
1st time posting…now that’s out the way…just wondering what does this say about scandrick are we moving him to free safety? Dropping A. Ball back down to 4th string cb with b mac playing purely on ST? From where I sit every one has him rated at best a 3rd corner…Didn’t we pass up B. Harris a future starter waaaaaay sooner than later? For what’s its worth I think right position just a tad late? I can’t say for sure FA is gonna bring us who we want or need…huff awesomewa..(What I call him)…weddle sound nice but other teams are gonna want the same espcially those in our division…..
I keep 2 cents
by jmartian on May 2, 2011 7:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
LOL @ awesomewha
That is pure comedic and literary GENIUS!!!
No, I think we’re done trying to take lightweight CB’s and turn them into safeties.
It looks like Dallas will look to FA for one spot and possibly AOA (what do you call HIM?) at the other spot.
It’s a dangerous game they’re playing with the last line of defense if you ask me.
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
- John Wooden (God rest his soul)
I like it ...
the fact that he likes to tackle is really all I need to know. Didn’t have a lot of that in the secondary last year.
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
FA is the best bet
Don’t think they need an exceptional safety! Don’t think there were any in this draft anyway. Just a decent guy would be a big upgrade from a former backup CB turned safety AB! A proven guy will do the trick!
Did anyone notice...
Duenta Williams went unstaffed? Many thought he would be a late round pick due to his leg injury, but before that he was thought of as the top safety this year.
Priority FA?
by calmyron on May 3, 2011 8:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
unstaffed = undrafted
Dang spell correct
by calmyron on May 3, 2011 8:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup
He’s one of the UDFA’s I love to see get brought in for camp. Even if he doesn’t make the final cuts, maybe we could stash him on the PS.
Rabid and luvin' it
Wow
Can you say a Rob Ryan-like CB?
He is an exceptional cover corner, what sets him apart is how he takes care of the run despite his small frame. Thomas thrived as a corner who would blitz or come in high to top the run. The best way to sum up his style of play is aggressive.
Music to my ears, especially after watching this defense last season.
He never ‘gave up’ during a disastrous 2011 season on a defense that was hung out to dry by a turnover prone offense. He was focused on every play weather UB was in the game or not.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
yup
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by Archie Barberio on May 4, 2011 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions

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