As of late I've been around some conversations in BleedingGreenNation and BigBlueView regarding the NFL players and coaches Top 100 for 2011 and the love that Eli Manning gets, deservingly or not. Obviously, in those places the conversation CAN'T ignore the Cowboys and that's OK, we share the NFC East Division, they don't like our team and it's mutual.
So, all that served as food for thought for this post, in which I look at the QB situation for the 3 teams and what I consider a fair ranking of the NFL Top 10 QBs.
Tony Romo and Troy Aikman deserve no love for different reasons.
If you're a Cowboys fan and you've heard or read this line "Romo will be considered a good or better QB when he shows it in the Playoffs", would you please raise your hand? I can see a forest of hands...
Sure, Tom Brady won all those Playoffs games in the past decade by being alone out there... Wait, him and Vinatieri did... Wait, I'm mentioning a Kicker? Fugget 'bout it! Montana surely won all those 4 Super Bowls by himself then! What? He has company in the Hall of Fame? Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott and Bill Walsh? A receiver, a CB/S and a Coach? That hardly counts... Bradshaw? Too painful... Some of those rings he didn't deserve...
Ok, then, I guess that Romo shouldn't deserve credit until he shows that he can help his team win in the Playoffs... Oh, wait, that won't happen... It's all about Aikman...
If you're a Cowboys fan and you've heard or read this line "Aikman was an average to good QB that drove a great team to 3 Super Bowl victories", would you please raise your hand? Huh, another forest...
Sure, winning a Super Bowl isn't the mark of a great QB... How else would QBs like Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien and some others (Eli Manning? I kid, I kid!) find a way to lead their teams to Super Bowl victories... What? Aikman led his team to 3? That's an indication of how good that team was! Surely, every other team that won several Super Bowls in a small window managed that with less stars...
Ok, then, I guess that Romo and Aikman won't ever get the respect that they deserve, haters will look long and hard at ways to bring them down.
I love it, man, haters gonna hate and they will be consistent 'bout it.
Michael Vick. The pre-week 12 one, the week 12 and post one or the career one?
How are we supposed to rank this guy? He has one year of true production as an Eagle and 6 years of production with the Falcons, but that's not it, you can also find a difference between the 2010 Vick:
Pre-week 12 (7 games, 6 complete ones):
Week 12 and post (6 games, includes one Postseason game):
If his production during his career tells me something is that the 1st set of numbers aren't very reliable, he was always closer to the 2nd set. So, as an Eagle and health dependant, is he going to be something in between both sets? 20 TDs, 10 Ints., 3500 yards and his ground production?
Sounds like solid numbers to me, but nothing close to his production early in 2010.
Eli Manning is more than good.
And he deserved being in the Top 100 above Freeman and McNabb. Why wasn't he? I can't understand it, just like most Giants fans.
Looking at his 2010 numbers, I can think of a reason (25 Ints.), but I can also look at their injuries along the OLine, how his best friend as a pass catcher had an injury riddled year (Steve Smith) and I know that if many things are against you that you won't look pretty, QB can become a pretty lonely position back there.
Some of his defenders like to mention how Drew Brees is highly respected and the guy threw 22 Interceptions last year, but they fail to mention that he had no running game at all. So teams knew that they were going to throw the ball. And the Saints suffered the same disease that's hurting the Colts, the disease of having no-name bookends at Tackle (Among other things it hurts YPA, you have to throw more short or out of bounds passes).
So, how good is Eli Manning? I'm thinking something in between last season and the previous 2 years (48 TDs - 24 Ints.).
2011 QB Ranking:
- Peyton Manning. Tackles disease + Injuries at pass catchers + Poor running game + Tough schedule = Almost the same always silly-high level of play.
- Tom Brady. The guy efficiently manages to win games and he's highly productive while doing so.
- Drew Brees. Tackles disease + Poor running game + Tough schedule = Almost the same always silly-high level of play.
- Aaron Rodgers. The guy efficiently manages to win games and he's highly productive while doing so.
- Phillip Rivers. In the last 3 years he has 92 TDs - 33 Ints. Yeah, that's almost a 3-1 ratio.
- Ben Roethlisberger. As a passer he's as good as hard as he's to bring down. VERY.
- Mike Vick.
- Tony Romo. Not a ranking based in last year's production, it's about the last 3 years.
- Eli Manning.
- Matt Ryan. The guy efficiently manages to win games and he's highly productive while doing so.