Dez Bryant Joins Cowboys Workouts, Tyron Smith To Join Soon
by One.Cool.Customer on May 5, 2011 6:00 AM CDT
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After all the hoopla and second guessing about if, when and why Dez Bryant missed the first players-only workout that the Cowboys conducted on Tuesday, the situation has deescalated somewhat. Calvin Watkins from ESPNDallas reported yesterday that Bryant and at least 40 other players worked out together yesterday.
Tony Romo told Watkins that Bryant looked good, and that all the guys looked crisp during the workout: "He's running pretty well and he's pretty competitive. He's running half speed so sometimes we have to slow him down a bit." Romo also said that Bryant had excused himself from Tuesday's workout due to family matters and that as long as Bryant kept the lines of communication open, everything' was fine.
Lost among all the public hyperventilating about Bryant are two far more important aspects of the player workouts:
1. With 40-45 players attending both practices so far, the Cowboys fielded the the equivalent of a 45-man game day roster for practices, while many other teams are busy watching soap operas. Of course, there are no reports to be found anywhere about the 25 plus other NFL teams that have not started any practices, but Bryant misses one day and it's the end of western civilization as we know it.
2. Tyron Smith, the Cowboys' No. 1 pick, indicated he'd join these workouts shortly. In a tweet to the Cowboys' Teddy Williams and Alex Daniels, Tyron Smith said, "Gotta hold down SC for a couple more days then I'll be back in the D!" Several Cowboys players, including Roy Williams, have already reached out to Tyron Smith via Twitter or text messages, another indication that the Cowboys are a close team that quickly embraces its rookies.
A final little nugget that BTB-member CaliFanInTx pointed out about this whole situation: There were two stories out in parallel yesterday about players working out, one about the Saints and the 37 players who showed up for their practices, the other about the Cowboys and the 40+ players who showed up in Dallas. Both reports were by people who weren't within a thousand miles of either practice, yet were able to deduce that the Cowboys practice was a "somewhat organized team activity", while they were gushing like little schoolgirls at the Saints "surprisingly organized team activities". Take that for what it's worth.
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Romo is growing as a leader
This is your team Tony. You have to be the man in these player organized practices.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
You are correct
He is showing his leadership capabiities when we need him the most.
agreed
It is very encouraging to see Romo take a leadership position on this.
I think when the HC sets very clear (and high) standards
the players are able to step up and lead. You can’t enforce standards that aren’t there, and yo can’t hold others to a higher standard if the team management won’t back you up. I think we will see a considerable knock-on effect from Garrett’s philosophy.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on May 5, 2011 9:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
+ Terry
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on May 5, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Just another way for BSPN to put our Boyz down (DEZ)
I could care less about what the Saints and Bree are doing but BSPN thinks they will win the super bowl this year because they have 37 players at there little mini camp…..
Another reason to NOT watch that crap and another reason why my 1st place I log into for REAL football information is right HERE!!!!!
Thanks to all the great writers and daily poster for helping me thru this tuff time.
Thanks AGAIN
hmm i'm confused
I could care less about what the Saints and Bree are doing
so you could or couldn’t care less? if its you “couldn’t” care less then i agree 100%.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
+1
@ the saints they win one super bowl and now they are everywhere im so sick of hearing all the praise about them! why everybody always hating on the cowboys so sick of it… i do the same thing come straight to the unhating btb’s for all my much needed news
Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad
But ya gotta understand...
The ‘Boys are the nemesis of the team headquartered in the nations largest media market. Plus I’d be willing to bet that the ultra conservatism of Texas in general and Dallas in particular goes against EVERYTHING the New York media stands for.
Dallas won’t catch a break from them until we fashion ourselves more along the lines of the city of San Francisco, a city and team that garners nary a bad report :)
Well played, sir.
Not to mention we’ve beat their backsides a few times along the line.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
lol
love that well played sir quote i use it all the time talking to people!!!
Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad
by Cowboys_Attack on May 5, 2011 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Not sure about " we've beat their backsides a few times" statement,
i’m thinking the “locals” might enjoy that too much !! .
;)
Davie Wilson
"how bout them cowboys"!!!
by scotscowboyfan on May 5, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think it is a regional bias at all.
I just think the Cowboys inspire a lot of hate and envy: Storied franchise, hot cheerleaders, luxurious stadium, owner who thinks he is a celebrity, most watched team on TV, America’s team, most valuable football franchise, and yet the team hasn’t won a SB since 95.
Smith to join workouts
I am glad to see Tyron Smith is going to join the workouts. Tony and the guys can make a copy of the playbook and work with him to give him a foundation so he wont be totally lost when the team reports to camp. Come on Jerry, lets find a way to end this lockout so we can get down to business.
by nospinzonefactor on May 5, 2011 6:45 AM CDT reply actions
NFL network last night mentioned the Giants, jets, Saints and couple others about their practices. They said one time and “they had a good practice with 25 players.” How did they miss us?The most covered football franchise there is?
The Saints had 40 show up and they had video. they are getting help from Tulane Univ. staff in conducting the workouts. The story really is about Drew Brees and how much of a great person he is. He wants so badly for the team to get this right that he is taking care of room and board at hotel for some players and feeding others. He has flown and provided tickets so that there is no excuse for not showing up. He has used a great deal of his own money to make this happen. He is the Saints. Make no mistake that he is the undisputed leader of that team and when he talks they all take notice. My question is why isn’t Romo the same way? He needs to learn from Brees and see how a true team leader behaves.
You just fell for media bias
Romo has organized the biggest practices of any NFL team.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 5, 2011 8:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But I think that also says a lot about the other players on this team
Romo, Witten and Ware are doing exactly what we want them to and I am very excited with what is going on here.
But Breese is paying for facilities, insurance and training and medical staff at practices, housing for rookies and those who need it, the majority of the costs out of his own pocket…Breese is a footstep away from Sainthood.
Not to take anything away from Romo, I don’t think he isn’t doing something that he should and cowboyjohn goes a little overboard in his comment, but Romo (and virtually everyone else in the NFL) could learn a few things from Brees.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
+1 for the thoughts
-2/3 for misspelling Brees’ name 2 out of 3 times.
Bahahahahahaha
Seriously though, Brees can pay, that is great, but all these guys really need is a football and their teammates. I am just really happy stoked to know our guys want this as bad as we thought they do and as bad as we want it for them.
Romo doesn't need to be a saint like Brees
He’s doing everything he should be doing as the leader of the team…nothing more should be expected.
In Romo we Trust
Like I said
Not to take anything away from Romo, I don’t think he isn’t doing something that he should
But we shouldn’t get angry and call media hypocrits playing favoritism when they call our practice somewhat organized, but the Saints’ surprisingly organized. When you are in a facility, have a training and medical staff present – you are more organized.
No one has to be a saint like Brees, but everyone could learn from him.
Again, I am very happy with the turn out and the commitment from all the players that showed up and Romo, Witten, and Ware’s ability to get so many guys there. I assume Garrett’s past speeches (perhaps even the tale of the ‘82 and ’87 ’Skins during the years with labor strikes) also helped greatly. I am very happy with what is going on. But let’s not act like Romo is perfect and already doing everything he can and has no room to grow and learn – I would imagine he doesn’t think that way and shouldn’t if he aspires to becoming great.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Nobody is acting like Romo is perfect
we’re just saying he doesn’t have act exactly like Brees to be doing his job
In Romo we Trust
But you just said he was exactly the same, but better?
by Baked Potato Soup on May 5, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Terry you don't need to defend Romo every comment
theres always going to be questions about top 10 player that hasn’t won the big game. even P.Manning was hearing rumblings before he won a ring & if Eli hadn’t stole from the Boys then it wouldn’t be as much talk but the fact the “WHOLE TEAM” didn’t step up when it counted in the playoffs its just the way it is. also playing in Dallas brings out a lot of haters & even angry fans bc the window for winning a super bowl with this core of players just got 1 year smaller. the fact that Jerry lead them around like caged animals in a circus didn’t help much either.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Well...
Between Romo, Ware, Austin, and Witten they could all pitch in and put together an awesome practice regimen.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
+1
i hope he learned a lot watching Kitna last year & how he handled things. its no question Romo has talent & is a top 10 QB in the NFL but its the little things he could learn better. Romo was undrafted for a lot of reasons & to see him this far is only a super bowl short of being a Kurt Warner story but all those guys had something that Romo seemed to lack. he has some leadership but he needs to take on a bigger role on & off the field.
i give Romo a thumbs up for being at these workouts but its what they get done as team this season that counts.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
I disagree
I think that Romo has shown just as much leadership as Kitna….I just didn’t see any difference between Kitna’s leadership last season and Romo’s since he’s been the starter. To me, it’s a big misperception since Kitna simply has a different demeanor than Romo which shouldn’t be confused with leadership.
In Romo we Trust
its just my opinion & it doesn't mean i'm right
but i do think Kitna displayed a lot of things for Romo to learn from last season
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
obviously I didn't see those things
I just saw a qb with a different type of personality
In Romo we Trust
theres a lot of players training but there just not getting the attention.
Larry Fitzgerald has organized activitys with some WRs (some from other teams) & a couple QBs (McNabb being one).
the funny thing is McNabb wants to be a Cardinal so bad but its looking like they want Kolb from reports. i’m sure the Cards would take any legit QB at this time but i look for them to make a move on someone next season & if not then Fitz it out of there.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
If Romo paid for all that
They’d spin it as “Romo’s lack of leadership forces him bribes teammates to practice” or “Cowboys Bryant – I won’t practice unless I get paid”.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on May 5, 2011 9:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ding Ding Ding
We have a winner!
"Wade is no longer the coach." Jason Garrett
by k2spitfire88 on May 5, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
+1000
Nothing Romo does is good enough. Funny how people fall for the spin and say things like “he should learn from Brees!” when he’s already organized the best-attended practices in the NFL.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 5, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
The way I see it, every other QB in the league has a lot to learn from Romo
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 5, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Cowboy Attendance
Lit’s not name him mesiah just yet, the other players had something to do witht he large attendance as well. Saying someone can learn from another is not claiming he isn’t already a great example.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
just out of curiosity, what specifically is he supposed to learn from Brees anyways??
In Romo we Trust
Hey guys I think this is getting a little out of context.
Keg is saying that sometimes there is no “consipracy” and sometimes people aren’t “Hating on Romo/Cowboys”, sometimes things just are what they are. To me everyone is proving his point by jumping on someone who OBVIOUSLY has love for Romo.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on May 5, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheers
This all started with just getting people to realize that from the info we have the Saints DID have a more organized practice. I am not saying ours was bad or Romo did a bad job, or any of the extremist stuff discussed above. Glad to see someone understood me.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
I think the media is just pissy that they can't go to the Boys practice.
After all, the players won’t tell them where it is. So they can’t get video, interviews, etc. Added into the normal bias against the Boys that they always have.
Media
Does love bashing the ‘Boys, I am not defending or denying the existence of that nonsense and I don’t know what I would do if given the chance to run into Ed Werder in a dark alley.
And you are probably right, they would love to get more pics and interviews from America’s team – which clearly brings greater ratings than most franchises – so those stories are hunted for by reporters. But to claim bias or conspiracy because the Saints’ practice in a college facility, with professional trainers and medical staffs and housing for players without local residence is clearly more organized than the Cowboys’ practice. Though the Cowboy’s practice is a great display for this team and more than just about every other team has done.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
hold up a sec
when did we find out that the Cowboys didnt train in a college facility for all anyone know which aint sh*t they could’ve had all that too right or did i miss something…definitly couldve but didnt think i did
Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad
by Cowboys_Attack on May 5, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Heck
from what i hear, some of the HS training facilities in TX are better than some college programs :-)
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
Well.....my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
Something tells me...
That if the Cowboys player’s paid for a medical and training staff and housing for out of towners, someone (likely Romo’s agent) would have leaked that news to the media.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
i hope they put Ed at the front gates of Brett Farves crib this summer
or at the high school throwing to the kids & waiting all day in 100% heat for a 2 min interview. i couldn’t thank Brett Farve enough for the way he treated that rat all summer long & the one with the disel truck running was all time classic.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Enjoyed Ed's Summertime Chore
Perfect anual assignment for the weasel.
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
That's exactly right. Romo stopped giving the media
cool sound bites a couple of years ago. won’t take the bait when they diss him, and they don’t much like him for it.
How about...
How to win a super bowl? How about reading a defense? How about how to be the city’s icon and donate more money and time than any other player? How about giving a pregame pep talk for the enitre team? How about how to use his big contract money to bring some medical and training staff to the unofficial ’Boys practices.
Listen, I like Romo a lot. He is our franchise QB and I am happy to have him. I don’t think he isn’t a leader or a bad one. But I also think he can still improve. You just said above no one is calling him perfect, and then ask me what is he supposed to learn from Brees?
I think even Romo would tell you he can learn a lot from a guy like Brees (on and off the field). Romo should be striving to improve every day, I think he is, that’s what great players want to do.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
do you really feel like Romo is trying to improve on his time like
Brees, Manning & Brady have over the years? 1 or 2 less golf outtings in the offseason & a little more time in the gym or film room?
my feelings are if your satisfield with being #2 then your never going to be #1 & even though you don’t always need to be #1 it doesn’t hurt to put the extra work in.
if anyone thinks they can’t learn from someone then they have a lot to learn.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
got news for you, Manning, Brady and Brees play as much golf as Romo
You just never hear about it because they aren’t as good to qualify and compete in touneys with low handicap amatuers like Romo.
In Romo we Trust
Curse you Terry, I was posting the same thing, when your post went through, but yeah Romo is just like these guys (Save Manning because he's a FREAK)
However everything he does is higher profile. ONE because he’s a cowboy, and two because he’s a cowboy doing higher profile things. For example guys play golf during the offseason almost as a religion, Romo just happens to be good enough to possibly make the cut for the U.S. Open. Another example, during the bye week guys DON’T spend that time practicing taking reps and all that, they are ENCOURAGED to try to relax and get away from it all. Many guys have done this, Romo just did it with Jessica Simpson… lol. For crying out loud Brady was shopping and watching “musicals” DURING the playoffs with his supermodel girlfriend.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on May 5, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I always love that answer
So, either that means that Brady got the rings by that mix of practice and recreation, or he’s a bum because he’s now resting on his laurels. I suspect it’s number 1. This imaginary lifestyle fans have created where players aren’t allowed to do anything but play or prepare for football is silly. And my guess is that it would be counter-productive for anyone to devote their entire lives to that without a break. I cast my vote for “lame argument”.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on May 5, 2011 10:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
what difference does that make??
Brady has those rings because he played on better teams, no other reason.
In Romo we Trust
First superbowl, Brady and the Patriots were marching through the playoffs with "Baseball Scores" 9-5, and 8-2 garbage.. lol
by Feeling Blue & Silver on May 6, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Pats had great defenses when Brady acquired those rings
Brady has actually played better since those SBs wins but they haven’t won a SB during that period….just proof it’s not the qb that wins SBs it’s a team effort all the way
In Romo we Trust
i see it different
the thing that seperates the top 5 QBs from 6-10 is that the top 5 are serious film junkies. they might golf some or do things to get away but they can’t stay away.
Trent Dilfer weighed in on this topic not long ago & spoke of how Manning, Brees, Brady, Rivers lived to study film or work on there game.
its not a knock on Romo but i hope he takes that next step to becoming the best he can be.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
and Romo is a film junkie
as well as a gym rat….he loves football much more than golf, but it’s healthy to get away and do other things….if you spend all your time only on your profession, you’ll burnout too quickly.
These junkies you speak of have other hobbies, it’s just that the media doesn’t tell you about them or when they’re doing them, thats all.
In Romo we Trust
Didn't know the one player was capable of winning a SB all by himself
When did this happen because I still thought football was a team game.
Also, Romo does give pregame pep talks, guessed you missed that as well.
Romo is striving to improve as a player all the time, but what makes Brees so much better than Romo?? Because he plays for a better team and before Wade got fired played under a better HC??
Romo does everything right off the field and strives to be the best on the field. He certainly makes mistakes like any other player including Brees. But to say Romo has a lot to learn from Brees is ridiculous because they are relatively equal players. Brees has a ring because he’s played on a better team which obviously isn’t Romo’s fault.
In Romo we Trust
I agree and Disagree with you here Terry...
YES they are relatively equal. But I think Romo could learn alot from Brees, HOWEVER I do think that Brees could learn a thing or two from Romo. However he won’t be as apt to listen as he has something that Romo doesn’t… a ring.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on May 5, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Brees didn't earn that ring all by himself
Just like if Romo ever gets one, it won’t be him earning all by himself either.
Clay Matthews has a ring, Ware doesn’t, does that mean he’s better than Ware and has nothing to learn from him?? See my point?
In Romo we Trust
Reread my post, I didn't say Bree's had nothing to learn from Romo, NOR did I say he's better than Romo.
I said they can both learn from each other, however Bree’s would be less apt to listen to Romo as everyone’s main goal for improving is to get a ring, and Bree’s has one. I’m not saying it would be a BAD idea for him to talk or learn from Romo, just that it is LESS LIKELY. You usually turn to people who’ve experienced things you haven’t, or people who have things you would like to one day have.
This is an example of what Keg and others are talking about. Sometimes cowboy fans are so sensitve, they don’t even listen to what others are ACTUALLY saying they just get defensive.
So to answer your question: “No, I Don’t see your point.”
by Feeling Blue & Silver on May 6, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes I think you don't even read what I post
So here you go, this will get your Romo briefs in a bunch…
Romo is not even close to the QB Brees is.
He doesn’t command the offense the same way, he doesn’t inspire his entire team and city the same way, and he doesn’t read defenses and call audibles and hot routes as well. he doesn’t have the same accuracy, he can’t move safeties as well with his eyes.
Go ahead and think I am a Romo hater – though that is NOT true – but I also recognize that Romo is NOT the elite QB that Brees and Payton are and I think he could learn a lot from them. i think he would tell you the same thing.
By the way, Brees leads his entire team in the pregame huddle-motivational speech, I have not seen Romo do that.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
If you think Romo is deficient, that's your opinion to have
Personally, when I see a QB have the highest turnout of any team in the entire NFL, I would say he’s doing an exceptional job.
If you think he should be bowing at the feet of another team’s QB and begging to learn from his almighty wisdom, then that’s your decison to make.
Me, I’m extremely proud of what Tony Romo and the rest of this Cowboys team is doing so far and I hope they keep doing exactly what they are doing and ignore every single other team in the entire league. If they keep doing what they’re doing right now, they’ll be the most prepared team in the league. I hope all the other teams ignore what our Cowboys are doing and don’t try to emulate them. Let them make Brees or Manning or Brady the saint. Let them focus on those guys, that will make it even easier for Romo to lead the Cowboys to be the most prepared team in 2011 and take home the Lombardi.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on May 6, 2011 3:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Read all my comment above: You will notice I am very excited with the turnout and what that means for this team. I never said Romo should bow to anyone.
But I think it silly to say Romo can’t learn or improve as a QB and a team leader…and they day he stops trying is the day I am no longer happy to have him as our QB.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
I of course never said that
He can always improve, but Brees isn’t that much better than Romo despite what you might think.
In Romo we Trust
Despite what you think
Brees and Payton are elite QBs in a class of their own. To think Romo can’t learn from them or they “aren’t much better” or “relatively equal players” is letting your Cowboy and Romo homerism blind you to the fact that Romo has not yet reached that elite QB status nor his peak as a professional football player. He is still getting better and could reach their status one day, but hasn’t, and can certainly learn from them.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
I read all your comments. What I'm getting from
you is that unless Romo patterns himself after Brees, he’s still got things to learn. Talk to the next guy, and he has to pattern himself after Manning. Or the next guy, and it’s Brady. Hell, according to many, he’s not as good as Flacco. Romo is Romo, and what he’s doing is significant. Instead of nitpicking, which is exactly what you’re doing, why not celebrate it. If he feels ridiculous doing pre-game pep talks, then he shouldn’t do them; he’ll just look insincere and ridiculous.
We all know he can improve on the field, and I’m sure he knows it, too, and is working on it. He’s always talking about improving. That’s leadership, too. Leading by example.
Saying someone can learn from another is not nitpicking
Saying you can learn from someone doesn’t mean you must pattern yourself after them.
Saying he can learn more doesn’t mean he isn’t a leader.
Saying he can learn more doesn’t mean I am not VERY excited by the results of our practices.
Saying Romo can’t learn more from elite QBs in this league is blind homerism (not that you said it) and what I am trying to make clear.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Yeah, it's nitpicking when you insist that
the fact that Romo (and others) organized a practice that included more players than any other team, including the Saints, isn’t enough. Now, he’s got to pay insurance, do pep talks, pay for hotels, and so on. If he did it now, quite frankly, I would see it as Romo making a bid for attention, not doing his job. Like I said, if you want to argue that Romo needs to make better reads or throw a better fade, cool. But that’s not all you’re saying. I figured someone would come along and find a way to find him wanting in all of this. I just figured it’d be ESPN, not you.
For the record, here is my scandalous remark
Not to take anything away from Romo, I don’t think he isn’t doing something that he should and cowboyjohn goes a little overboard in his comment, but Romo (and virtually everyone else in the NFL) could learn a few things from Brees.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
HAHAHA
Ok, but when you find where “I insist that…isn’t enough” let me know and we can again discuss misinterpreting my remarks.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
As for the practices
My comment was about understanding that the Saints DID have a more organized practice and it wasn’t the media hating on the Cowboys…not that Romo needed to do the same thing
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
As I said above
I doubt the media would not know (be informed by some agent/publicist) if the Cowboys had medical and training staff present at their practice. Given the information they had it is understandable they consider the Saint’s practice more organized. That being said, it doesn’t mean their practice is more effective or more helpful to their team than ours.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
This i do agree with
But I think it silly to say Romo can’t learn or improve as a QB and a team leader…and they day he stops trying is the day I am no longer happy to have him as our QB.
The day ANYONE thinks they know everything and can not learn anything new, they need to go, and that is not just in football……
I try to keep pounding (no not literally) into my children, you can always learn new things….
The older I get, the more i realize how much i dont know….funny how that works.
But i dont agree with the comment you made earlier about how Romo could learn from Brees about the rah-rah stuff at the begining of games. There are many diff ways to be a leader, and not just one “right” way. Just look at Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry….two def diff types of leaders with diff leadership styles, both got the job done
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
Well.....my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
And I think Romo can improve his leadaership as well...
Not just pregame, but during the game. I think he still doesn’t command the offense as well as he could and let’s too much time slip and get’s delay of game calls and perhaps doesn’t inspire everyone on the offense as well as he could/should. Though he has certainly improved since he first started.
But we are in firm agreement on continuing to learn, and while it doesn’t translate as well, my ancestors (Socrates and Plato) said it well:
“The more we know, the more we know we don’t know.”
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Oh, for Pete's sake. How about this? Show me where
Peyton Manning is doing that. Or Tom Brady. I don’t give a crap what Drew Brees does unless all this saintliness wins him a Super Bowl this year. Then 31 other QBs can learn from Saint Drew.
Screw how the media would spin it.
Who cares.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Too many people care. There's constant harping here about how Romo
should care deeply about what the press thinks and adjust his smiles and his hats accordingly.
For some, there will never be enough that Romo - or anybody else - can do.
He organizes the activities and maintains communication with Bryant, T. Smith, and others, yet now the question is “Why isn’t he buying their meals?” If he buys the meals, the question will be, “Why didn’t he get a healthier/more upscale meal?” If he does that the question will be “Why is Romo babying all the players?”
Some will never be satisfied. Criticism is fun, and easy. Much easier than level-headedness and lucidity.
just my personal opinion
but i really love the way brees lead them to that victory against the lousiest team(the first team to make the playoffs with a losing record) in the playoffs last year (7-8) seagalls…truly inspiring….but really i just hate i’ll admit i just hate
Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad
I think they did some things the year before, too.
by Baked Potato Soup on May 5, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
eh
maybe they did but i adressed that in my earlier comment…so i left it outta deesa one
Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad
by Cowboys_Attack on May 5, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Lock Smith in with a squat rack
Beef up that lower body, Tyron!
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
Just for the record
T. Smith does have good lower body strength. If you remove their height advantage of the other OTs from their score, Smith had the best vertical (actually tied with Solder 32" minus 3" taller = T. Smith 29" vertical)
Smith also was right there with Carimi, and Solder for a 9’ broad jump…Castonzo and Sherrod seem to be weakest lower body OT’s in the 1st round by these measurement (and from what I have seen from gameday performances)
Not saying he can’t improve, but he certainly doesn’t lack any strength (especially upperbody) compared to other rookie OTs.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
i think Solder was a lot better then he got credit for at the end of the season.
its hard to stay at the top of the draft boards all season long & then through the draft bc draft guru’s have more time to pick apart your game but considering he was still listed in the top 5 says a lot about Solders potential.
i know they didn’t give Smith probably the proper grade bc he was playing on the right side & those guys don’t get no where the attention the LT does. they also didn’t know he was declaring for the draft until after the season which was a big reason his stock climbed so fast before the draft but in the end if this guy can give us 10 great years then it doesn’t really matter if it was Solder or Smith with that pick. i can see Smith being younger having a little more upside but i wasn’t impressed he wasn’t able to beat out a sophomore for the LT position his Jr season & also his academics weren’t the best but he seems very coachable so i guess its a wash.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Smith vs. Solder
Personally (and I have read others say the same) I think Smith’s technique was better than Solder’s. In the games I saw I was more impressed with Smith. But my biggest knock on Solder is his upper body strength. His 21 bench reps show me he has A LOT of strength & conditioning to do before he can start in the NFL (compared to Smith’s 29 and 31 at his proday). Combine to two (better technique, more NFL ready strength) and I think the pick between the two is pretty easy…especially if you need a day 1 starter.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and Stephen Bowen can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Smith wasn't shifted because he was so good at RT
I think the coaching change at USC played in to it as well. Since I think Doug Free is solid at LT and Smith with 2 years at RT at USC is better prepared to just plug in at RT. I’m fine with Smith playing at RT and maybe taking over for Free in a few years as he slows down.
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You are in fact “One.Cool.Customer”
Most of us often overreact, thanks for bringing the Nation back to rational thinking. Hopefully their demeanor will stay as cool as yours.
Technically..
None of the rookies “HAVE” to participate in activities once they kick off until they sign their contracts, is that correct?
I know these are not organized by team, ect, ect.
FEAR the STAR.
Right it happens every year
Rookies not showing up to camp til the get a contract. What if they get hurt, there is nothing stopping the team from not signing them
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
i couldn't care less what the other players or teams are doing but i care whats going on in Big D.
Of course, there are no reports to be found anywhere about the 25 plus other NFL teams that have not started any practices, but Bryant misses one day and it’s the end of western civilization as we know it.
its great to hear he showed up & hopefully he can take a big step in the right direction this season on & off the field. after reading a lot of his debts were before he got drafted it eased some of ways i think of this kid but he’s still got a huge mountain to climb ahead.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Also Boys don’t need medical staff and trainers. We are trying to learn the new playbook on defense and get the new wrinkles on offense down while playing catch up for Bryant and the other hard headed rookies on offense.
Brees pays for insurance and lodging for the rookies? How do you know we don’t have a bunch of players crashing at Romo’s place? Obviously they are paying for a practice facility right? You need food and water there no? IDK bro but to me that’s Brees patting himself on the back. Giving his publicist a high five. I’m more proud of our team for not eating a face full of ESPN bull and keeping our practices clandestine.
Are we trying to get better as a team? Or look good in newspapers? Id take the former everytime.
I think you nailed it
There will be costs associated with these practices. You can bet your fanny that there is medical and other (including coaching) assistance as well and those who organized it (most) probably paid for it as well. Not saying JJ will not reimburse btw.
The fact that they DO NOT seek te limelight pleases me almost as much as the workouts themselves. I hope it shows commitment to winning not chestpounding.
and btw let’s try not to explode at every overly biased statement. Yes I get it, some ppl go overboard. At least they are Cowboys fans and go overboard on the right side (starboard?)
by Elks83 on May 5, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
Well.....my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"
Most of the Cowboys players live in or around Dallas
So there’s absolutely no need for Romo or anybody else to put them up in a hotel or some such.
Now, New Orleans, that’s a different matter altogether. Even their head coach decided not to live there and moved to Dallas.
by One.Cool.Customer on May 5, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Since it's 40+ players
I’d assume there’s defensive players too.
What exactly are they doing? Practicing with the old playbook?
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-John Madden
I think Ware went to the facility on friday and assumed he got some part of the new playbook? Someone help me out here?
by willyoubemycharizard on May 5, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
if they don't have the playbook
then they may just be running bread and butter plays that most playbooks share, partly to practice em, but mostly just to get back in football mode.
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by Nick Castillo on May 5, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
They got playbooks back before the lockout started, and had a meeting/cram session with Ryan then.
Remember the story about how a few teams got fined over that? The Cowboys were one of the teams listed that had “illegal” meetings with the coach before the lockout started.
How would anyone know for sure if suddenly playbooks appeared in each player's mailbox, with no return address?
Team contact? Unprovable.
Plus someone would have to break ranks and leak it to the media if such a thing happened, anyway. At any rate, if I were Romo and Ware, I would have gotten a whole stack of playbooks that Friday and handed them out to players afterwards. Heck, I’d even record the cram sessions with the coaches.
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