I don’t understand how that leads to disputing facts just because they disagree with your view. Players/NFLPA negotiating in bad faith is your opinion. Ownership negotiating in bad faith is a fact, confirmed by a court ruling. It can’t be disputed. Case closed.

This theme that the union decertification is a ‘sham’ is curious at best, suspect at worst. It is a tactic, it has been used successfully before. Ownership knows this which is why they are literally making a Federal case out of it. Meanwhile, the Federal cases they need to be worried about is the monetary award to the Players for their bad-faith negotiating and loss of anti-trust exemption. Interesting, no one in power is talking about taking anything away from the Players/NFLPA. Possibly, because in the perception of those that have influence over the outcome they see who is responsible.

The over-riding consideration here is there’s a dangerous game being played in which the outcome may be determined by parties other than the 2 in dispute. Why would anyone involved want that ?

You have 10 minutes before the negotiations deadline ends. Here is almost no financial info, though you have been requesting some for the past 2 years. Also, here is our lopsided offer. Again, you have 10 minutes to decide3, otherwise we lock you out.

Is this in good fatih? Not in my book.

No draft, no cap, old west rules…….

The owners did violate the bad faith negotions by taking less money for the tv contracts that were going to pay them even if there was not a league year (but they would have had to pay it back once play was resumed) The bad faith of that was the less revenue, not that they tried to get a “lockout fund”. The less revenue hurt the players finacially since they shared in the revenue.

It is an old and beat to death argument. The owners wont show the books, the players decert and are not a union anymore so they can file the anti-trust case (but they are in negotiations with the NFL)…..blah blah blah.

I think the owners need to fix the revenue sharing or this is going to happen again in a few years, but also think that if the owner of a company sees his profits decline (not losing money, not yet atleast) he/she should try to stop the bad trend. He/she may not be able too, but he/she should try. The biggest single cost the league has is the players, that is the logical place to go. (most bang for the buck)

“but the players are really partners” – no, they are not, they get there “take” off of revenue, partners get to share the profits, and the players are not liable for the financial risk other then possibly losing their jobs (yes i know they take physical risks, like policemen, and firemen, and the armed forces) just like every other employee.

Most folks are pretty set in their ways at this point as to, whom they favor in this, so most argument about it are rather pointless anyway.

If congress gets involved, all is lost

You’re so predictable. Instead of watching TV try reading a book for once. Start here.