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Top 20 Defenders In Cowboys History (BOTB Pt. 5)

We've reached the fifth stop along BTB's Best Of The Best tour, and it's time to divulge the defensive player pool that we'll be using in our All-Time Cowboys Fantasy competition. The Cowboys have enjoyed the blessings of some of the NFL's premiere defensive talent, at every level of the defense. For every Cowboys defensive star of the last 25 years, you can find his equal or superior in the annals of the previous quarter century. Tom Landry, the patriarch to all things Cowboys, came to the team as a former defensive coordinator and mastermind, so it should be no surprise how inventive he was in putting various talents in the position to succeed.

Subjectively ranking these all-time greats might be an exercise in futility. Fortunately, we won't have to do that as we will again turn to Pro Football Focus' Approximate Value metric to help move us along. As a recap, here's a brief explanation of the metric from it's creator, Doug Drinen.

"AV is not meant to be a be-all end-all metric. Football stat lines just do not come close to capturing all the contributions of a player the way they do in baseball and basketball. If one player is a 16 and another is a 14, we can't be very confident that the 16AV player actually had a better season than the 14AV player. But I am pretty confident that the collection of all players with 16AV played better, as an entire group, than the collection of all players with 14AV."

For the full explanation of AV, you can go here. We'll only be focusing on AV's accrued while in a Cowboys uniform.

The defensive player pool will be used in conjunction with the following selection pools for our exercise. Click on each header to revisit the cutdowns.

Offensive Schemes | Defensive Schemes | QB's and Offensive Players |

(reminder: Ernie Zampese won the poll, but for diversity the fourth offensive scheme will be Sean Payton)

Follow the jump for the defensive player pool, highlighted by the Top 20 Defenders in Cowboys history.

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RankPlayerPlayed FromPlayed ToCowboys AV
20 EdgRshr DeMarcus Ware 2005 2010 74
19 CB Everson Walls 1981 1989 78
18 LB Bob Breunig 1975 1984 80
17 SS Charlie Waters 1970 1981 81
16 LB DD Lewis 1968 1981 82
15 EdgRshr Greg Ellis 1998 2008 85
14 EdgRshr Larry Cole 1968 1980 87
13 EdgRshr George Andrie 1962 1971 95
12 LB Dave Edwards 1963 1975 96
11 SS Darren Woodson 1992 2003 99

 

10. ER Harvey 'Too Mean' Martin

Martin played for the franchise from 1973-1983. Cowboys Career AV 100. Four time Pro Bowler, one time First Team All-Pro. 1977 Defensive Player of the Year, 1977 Super Bowl co-MVP (Randy White). Apepared in three Super Bowls, winning one. Played in era when sacks weren't official stats. Led team in sacks seven times. Holds team record for sacks as a rookie (8), single season (23) and career (114). Played in North Texas from high school through retirement.

9. FS Cliff 'Captain Crash' Harris

Harris played for the Cowboys from 1970-1979. Career AV 103. Six Time Pro Bowler, three time First-Team All-Pro. In Cowboys Ring of Honor. Played in five Super Bowls, winning two. One of the original Cowboys UDFA finds. A hard hitting free safety, Harris is often credited as being the mold other teams tried to build their free safety from.

8. DL Jethro Pugh

Pugh played for the Cowboys from 1965-1978, the fourth longest career in Cowboys history. Career AV 107. Pugh played in five SB's, winning two. Led NFL in fumble recoveries in 1967 with four.Led Cowboys in sacks each season from 1968-1973, ended his career with 95.5 unofficial QB takedowns.

7. CB/S Cornell 'Sweet Lips' Green

Green suited up for the club from 1962-1974. He amassed a Cowboys Career AV of 126. Five time Pro Bowler, three time First Team All-Pro. Played in two Super Bowls, winning one. He was one of the original conversions from basketball player to football star. Green never missed a game in his entire career, starting each game from 1962-1974.Led team in interceptions four times, a tribute to his amazing ball hawk abilities as he defended numerous other passes.

6. LB Lee Roy 'Killer' Jordan

Jordan played for the Cowboys from 1963-1976. Career AV 129. Five time Pro Bowler, one time First-Team All-Pro. Played in three Super Bowls, winning one. In Cowboys Ring Of Honor. Retired as franchise's all-time leader in solo tackles (now 2nd). Landry's defensive captain, demanded a film projector as part of his contract so he could study game film. On November 4, 1973 intercepted Bengal QB Ken Anderson three times in a span of five minutes, including a TD return. Intercepted 32 passes in his career, tied for third most as a linebacker.

5. OLB Chuck Howley

Howley played for the Cowboys from 1961-1972. Cowboy Career AV 132 (136 overall). Six time Pro Bowler, five time First-Team All-Pro. In Cowboys Ring Of Honor. Played in two Super Bowls, winning one. 1970 Super Bowl MVP, first defensive player ever to win it, and still only winner from losing team. Howley was originally drafted by Chicago and played two seasons before suffering what was thought to be a career ending knee injury. He played an alumni game at West Virginia and Tom Landry took a gamble and traded for him. He'd play another 12 seasons. Returned a fumble 97 yards for a score in '66.

4. DL Ed 'Too Tall' Jones

Too Tall played for the Cowboys from 1974-1989, longest Cowboys career by a defender. Cowboys Career AV of 133. Three time Pro Bowler, one time First-Team All-Pro. Career 1-2 in Super Bowls. First overall choice in the 1974 draft. Took a brief hiatus from football to be a pro boxer, going 5-0 including a victory over future heavyweight champion Fernando Montes, Teammate of both Bob Lilly and Troy Aikman. 106 career sacks (unofficial).

3. CB Mel Renfro

Renfro played for the Cowboys from 1964-1977. Career Cowboys AV of 149. Inducted into Ring of Honor in 1981. Inducted into Hall of Fame in 1996. 10 time Pro Bowler (each of his first 10 seasons(, one time First-Team All-Pro. Four Super Bowl appearances, winning two.  Led league in punt and kick returns in rookie season. Led league with 10 interceptions in 1969, 52 for his career.

2. Randy 'The Manster' White

White played for the Cowboys from 1975-1988. Career AV 156. Inducted into the Ring of Honor and Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1994. Nine time Pro Bowler (consecutive), seven time First-Team Al-Pro. 1977 Super Bowl co-MVP (Harvey Martin). Led league in single season AV with 17 in 1978. Played in 209 career games, missing only one. Played in three Super Bowls, winning one. Two time All-American in college (Go Terps!) 111 career sacks (unofficial) over 1100 career total tackles (701 solo).

1. Bob Lilly, "Mr. Cowboy"

Lilly played for the Cowboys from 1961-1974. Career AV of 175. Inducted into Ring of Honor in 1975 and Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1980. 11 time Pro Bowler (10 straight from '64-'73), seven time First-Team All-Pro. Played in two Super Bowls, winning one. First draft pick in Cowboys history. Made the four-point stance famous. Regularly double and triple teamed once moved to defensive tackle. First member of Ring Of Honor. 196 consecutive regular season starts. Member of both 1960's and 1970's NFL All-Decade teams.

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The rest of the Defensive Player Pool

PlayerPlayed FromPlayed To
CB Benny Barnes 1973 1982
CB Deion Sanders 1995 1999
CB Dennis Thurman 1978 1985
CB Don Bishop 1960 1965
CB Kevin Smith 1992 1999
CB Larry Brown 1991 1995
CB Terence Newman 2003 2010
DL Chad Hennings 1992 2000
DL Jay Ratliff 2005 2010
DL Jim Jeffcoat 1983 1994
DL John Dutton 1979 1987
DL La’Roi Glover 2002 2005
DL Leon Lett 1992 2000
DL Marcus Spears 2005 2010
DL Russell Maryland 1991 1995
DL Tony Casillas 1991 1997
DL Tony Tolbert 1989 1997
EdgRshr Anthony Spencer 2007 2010
EdgRshr Charles Haley 1992 1996
EdgRshr Pat Toomay 1970 1974
FS Ken Hamlin 2007 2009
FS Michael Downs 1981 1988
FS Mike Gaetcher 1962 1969
LB Bradie James 2003 2010
LB Dat Nguyen 1999 2005
LB Dexter Coakley 1997 2004
LB Eugene Lockhart 1984 1990
LB Ken Norton 1989 1993
LB Mike Hegman 1976 1987
LB Randal Godfrey 1996 1999
LB Thomas Henderson 1975 1979
SS James Washington 1990 1994
SS Roy Williams 2002 2008

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SPECIAL TEAMS

PositionPlayer
P P Mat McBriar
P P Toby Gowin
P P Mike Saxon
P P John Jett
STS ST Bill Bates
STS ST Keith Davis
STS ST Kenny Gant
STS ST Coach Joe Avazanno
K K Rafael Septien
K K Billy Cundiff
K K Chris Boniol
K K Richie Cunningham
K K Nick Folk
K K David Beuhler
LS Dale Hellestrae
LS LP Ladoceur
LS Jeff Robinson
LS Tom Rafferty

Player Pool Notes: Since we'll have various defensive schemes, some positional freedom must be allowed. After a few revisions, it seems the best way to categorize defenders is as follows: Front Five (DL +Edge Rushers), Linebackers, Cornerbacks, Free and Strong Safeties. I've also included the Special Teams on the defensive side, though they were not eligible for this top 20 list. Each of our GM's will include one each of the following on their rosters: Punter, Kicker, Special Teams Specialist, Long Snapper.

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Nice list

And glad D-Ware made it.

Lilly and White are definitely the best defensive Cowboys All-Time.

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 14, 2011 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Randy White

There’s a play against Philadelphia in Dallas where White rushes Jaworski, Jaws dumps a pass to a back going down the middle of the field, and thirtyfive yards later, there’s White bringing him down from behind…the guy was phenominal…and it really is a jaw-dropping (no pun intended Jaworski) highlight.

by Rome One on Jul 14, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um

D-Ware, I mean yeah I’m subjective, but I’m pretty sure D-Ware should be Top 5. I realize the Manster and Mr Cowboy are a solid #1-2 but D Ware is one of the best players of this Era too.

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by AustonianAggie on Jul 14, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

it's a cumulative metric for career

Ware has averaged 14 AV over the last four seasons. Two more puts him right outside the Top 10. Five more seasons at current pace puts him at #4.

THAT’s how good Cowboys defenders have been in team history. It’s going to take 5 more seasons out of our current best player to crack the team’s all-time top 5.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 14, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

That is pretty amazing. Cowboys have been blessed with some real defenders…unfortunately a couple can’t happen across the fountain of youth and come back to help our current defense.

by Rome One on Jul 14, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another way to look at it

is the last guy of the Top 20 Defenders is one of the currently best players in the league right now…that’s amazing.

Go Cowboys.

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by Rat-Pack on Jul 14, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are very spoiled...

LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!

Give me UR calls! Give me highstepping by CBs and PRs entering the endzone! Give me screaming on the sidelines and headbutting! Give me Fortitude, Solidarity and VIOLENCE! Bring me CHAMPIONSHIPS!
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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 14, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

besides D-Ware has only logged 6 seasons

it would be a little presumptious to say he’s had a top 5 career compared to players that logged 12-15 seasons with multiple pro bowls and first team all-pro’s.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 14, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok I will concede that but I have no doubt he will get there

he may be more phsyically gifted than Manster or Mr Cowboy

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by AustonianAggie on Jul 14, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me neither, not a doubt in my mind

and for your side of the argument, look at who the other greats got to play with, Ware has only played with Greg Ellis (as a top 20 all time defender)

Lilly had Chuck Howley, Lee Roy Jordan. Manster had Too Tall and Harvey Martin. Plus just look at the secondaries behind them…

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by KD Drummond on Jul 14, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

question KD?

what was Ware’s (09? the year he got 20 sacks) AV? I ask because if Spencer could become the player most hope he could(like he was in the latter part of that season) Could Ware realistically Challenge Lilly?

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 15, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

fixing now, thx for the catch

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by KD Drummond on Jul 14, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deion Sanders

I think a case could be made for him being # 21 All-Time.

Didn’t he wear # 21?

by Rome One on Jul 14, 2011 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Deion's four and a half year run (injured when he first signed) was legendary

best stretch of his career, BY FAR. From ‘96 – ’99 he averaged almost a 17 AV. Once he got that Redskins contract it’s like he quit trying.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 14, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deion was done when -

I remember he broke a punt return during his last season with Dallas…and got caught from behind inside the ten yard line….I’ll never forget it….the whole sports bar was like “Whaaaaat?”

by Rome One on Jul 14, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deion Sanders

The last game I remember him playing at a high level was the Monday Night in Philly in 1998.

In 1999 I knew he was done when Pey Pey and Marvin lit him up like a Christmas Tree.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jul 15, 2011 8:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah Deion was never the same

after his “turf toe injury”…..

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 15, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leon Lett was a beast

Unfortunately, he will always be known first for the Miami snow slide and second for the showboat almost TD against Buffalo.

What a goofy guy…but a tremendous talent.

by Rome One on Jul 14, 2011 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

those stories are funny

but whatever, dude was a beast, a winner, and a SB champion

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by AustonianAggie on Jul 14, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

SS Darren Woodson just missed the top ten -

He was such a solid player for Big D for so many years…too bad he just misses the top ten….Thinking of him makes me very very sad….

Why?

Alan Ball.

by Rome One on Jul 14, 2011 3:36 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I gotta say

I was shocked not to see his name on this list anywhere, figured KD would throw him in there to handicap a team ;)

Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jul 14, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin Smith had so much promise...

Sort of like Jimmy Smith on the offense……Jacksonville is sending thank you cards.

We did score a Grand Slam on Emmitt Smith though…

Here’s hoping Tyron winds up a little closer to Emmitt than Kevin.

by Rome One on Jul 14, 2011 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Am I reading the list wrong?

I’m talking about the rest of the player pool …. Is Spencer ranked ahead of Haley?

by jfdebois on Jul 14, 2011 4:30 PM CDT reply actions  

heck no! that would be near blasphemy

‘the rest’ is just sorted by position, then alphebetical by player first name. I only ranked the top 20… basically so I could keep some suspense for an upcoming top 100 list :)

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by KD Drummond on Jul 14, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You sly fox

How dare you tease us so! Btw now would be a perfect lockout induce Top 100 All-Time Cowboys list PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jul 14, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am really liking this metric.

Anything that shows the value of the old time players is superb in my book. Too many “all time great” ratings tend to skew towards the more recent players, which I think is because memory fades and younger writers didn’t see the old guys. I can’t see anyhing about the list I’d argue.

It will be interesting to see where DWare winds up – he has top 5 potential.

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by Tom Ryle on Jul 14, 2011 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

isnt Lily still the only player from the losing team to win the Super Bowl MVP

in that sloppy super bowl against the colts?

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 14, 2011 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Also, I never knew that Too Tall was a teammate of both Lilly and Aikman.

Granted, it was for only one season each, but that still displays some incredible longevity.

by TheBlueBaron on Jul 14, 2011 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Alan Ball has his own list

Alan Ball is going to be honored in the new “Circle within the Ring of Honor” for Cowboys….he’s the first member and instead of his name on the stadium – a silouette of ball will be placed inside the massive television and it will forever spin round and round in circles as receivers fly by….

I’m dead serious!

by Rome One on Jul 15, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob Lily Cowboy Number 1

We have been truly blessed with the quality of our Defense Stars. And spoiled! My favorite current player D. Ware, One of the top if not the top D player in the NFL and He ranks 20 on the Cowboys list. What an elite group of 20!

by meisternance on Jul 14, 2011 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

There is no way that Harvey Martin...

should be ranked that far behind Too-Tall. Harvey should be in the HOF….Cowboy bias because his stats are almost exactly like Fred Dean—except Harvey had the Co-MVP of the SB. Too-Tall is fondly remembered for his tenure and consistent play. But he simply was not the dynamic player Harvey was.

by ChuckCowboy on Jul 15, 2011 12:29 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree but remember that AV is an accumulation stat

not an average stat. So there is a heavy weighting to those who had long careers.

So Too Tall had 16 seasons to accumulate his 133 or an average of 8.3 per season
Martin accumulated 100 in 11 seasons or 9.1 per season or ~10% higher

The great Bob Lilly averaged 12.5 for 14 seasons!

Ware is currently averaging 12.3 per season, the next best per-year average on the list. So if Ware could go for 14 seasons at the same pace he could challenge Lilly. More realistically in the modern era, he will likely end up higher than Too Tall but will have trouble cracking the top 3.

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by BoyfromOz on Jul 15, 2011 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

just one thing

Bob Lilly was a BEAST!!!!

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 15, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

CB Larry Brown is in the defensive player pool? Seriously??

I’m going to laugh at whoever winds up with him in the draft.

And has anyone noticed we have had an absolute dearth of talent (comparatively) at FS? I’d think about taking Brock Marion over anyone we’ve had there for a decade (since Woodson retired, he played both safety positions, especially after Roy’s arrival). There’s Cliff Harris and then everybody else.

by mdlusk on Jul 15, 2011 3:17 AM CDT reply actions  

LOL

we needed a 10th CB

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by KD Drummond on Jul 15, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

the Super Bowl MVP

is the “10th” CB…..how many teams could say that?

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 15, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

who the heck is Dave Edwards?

"Where's Woody? - We need another Darren Woodson

by BoyfromOz on Jul 15, 2011 3:38 AM CDT reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Edwards

he is NEVER mentioned seeing how he was the third LB with Howley and Jordan.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 15, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leroy Jordan is my all time favorite

MLB, and only 215lbs; bowlegged Cowboy and tough as nails!

by bad knees on Jul 15, 2011 7:03 AM CDT reply actions  

215lbs

that wasnt tiny for the era that he played, J Lambert was only 220 and he was younger.

by jfdebois on Jul 15, 2011 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

you know what is funny?

Bob Lilly would be an OLB in our current scheme…..

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 15, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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