What Will The Cowboys' First Personnel Move Be After The Lockout?
Last year, the free-agent signing period started at 12:01 AM ET on Friday, March 5th. By the early afternoon of that same day, the Chicago Bears had already signed the biggest prize in the 2010 free agent class, Julius Peppers, to a six-year, $91.5 million deal.
The gullible public was spoon-fed a heartwarming story about how Chicago coach Lovie Smith, flew to North Carolina in a private plane, sat in the lobby of the Wilson Air Center adjacent to the Charlotte Airport and waited patiently until the clock struck midnight before contacting Peppers: "I was caught off-guard by that," Peppers said of Smith's recruiting trip. "My agent called me at midnight and told me that Lovie was at the airport."
Off guard? Perhaps. Surprised? Probably not. After all, Peppers' agent, Carl Carey, met with Bears during the NFL scouting combine a/k/a The Tampering Party. At the time, Carey had only one active contract in the NFL, so it stands to reason that the two sides were discussing more than the weather in Indianapolis, despite strict NFL rules mandating no contact between teams and agents before the official start of free agency.
Two days ago, ESPN's NFC West blogger Mike Sando reported that handshake deals prior to the start of free agency are rampant:
It's no secret teams have lined up handshake deals before the official start to free agency, usually beginning at the scouting combine in February.
"We all do it,'' one team executive told ESPN.com's Pat Yasinskas for a 2008 story. "Up until a few years ago, there were still a few teams that wouldn't do it. But they were the last bastion and they finally gave in because they realized they were losing out on players at the start of free agency because they weren't doing it.''
Teams and agents have little incentive to report one another because all parties want to continue benefiting from business as usual. An agent I spoke with Monday said he expects business as usual from teams unwilling or unable to restrain themselves. He said teams have been operating that way for years, and in his experience, the teams were the ones initiating the contact.
Alex Marvez from Foxsports.com filed a similar report a while back on the NFL's dirty little secret:
On condition of anonymity, NFL executives from three different clubs told FOXSports.com the same thing. "All of this stuff goes on constantly," one of them said. "Rules are bent. Some are blatant about it. There's some man-to-man talk [between teams and agents]. You get a jump on the contract structure way in advance so you can find out whether the price is acceptable to you. If not, you move on to another player."
The league of course is turning a blind eye to these shenanigans: "We do not comment on speculative tampering matters or engage in interpreting the anti-tampering policy," an NFL spokesman said in the run-up to the Peppers signing.
With all of this out of the way, I think it's fairly safe to assume that when teams talk about having a "great plan in place" or are "loading up and going for it" when lockout ends, that's just a politically correct way of saying that they already have at the very least couple of handshake agreements ready to go, and probably more.
Which, finally, brings us to the Cowboys. Let's assume for the sake of argument that the Cowboys (like presumably all other NFL teams) already have a couple of handshake agreements in place, either with their own free agents, other free agents or players under contract who might extend, change or restructure their contracts. And add to that the fact that a couple of players are likely going to be released as well.
Within that vortex of possibilities, what do you think the Cowboys' first personnel move will be after the lockout ends?
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I would like to say have Doug Free resigned
but considering the fact that
A: Jerry rarely does “midnight signings”
B) Dallas is ~16 million over the cap
I just don’t see them being able to do much immediately…..
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 20, 2011 5:01 AM CDT reply actions
NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora on the Cowboys' Cap Situation
“Also, a lot has been made of Cowboys cap situation, and they will have some work to do, but can convert a lot of base salary to bonus and one exec, from another team, who studied their situation, projects they can get to a place where they have $20M in space to play with.” Link
Hat tip to Admiral Dallas for the fanshot.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 20, 2011 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I’d be very interested in knowing how they can do that without destroying their cap for years to come.
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That's what I'm talking about.
We can’t keep deferring debt. At some point the Cowboys have to start spending less.
This year is a great opportunity to start. We can release some bad contracts, sign a few of our FAs and call it good. Talent is not what has held us back, we don’t need to bring in a crop of free agents.
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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 20, 2011 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Buyer's market.
This is all speculation, of course. Just a guess. But 500 free agents and 32 teams. That equates to a lot of unemployed football players. Restructure the big money. The Cowboys will give players like Newman, Williams, and Davis a choice; restructure to a team friendly number, or be released. Once they get Free and Bowen re-signed, there will be around 10 million left to sign players who still aren’t signed once training camp opens. There will be a record number of unsigned players once camps open. They will come cheap.
If they don’t get some great value in veteran FA’s, a lot of young, cheaper players are going to make the team. All these veterans that are desperate to sign in mid-August will sign back-end loaded contracts that are cheap for a year or two, then they’ll be cut when their higher salary years arrive. One thing I can say with great certainty; we won’t have to wait long to find the answers to these questions.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
You made this point in another post and I ignored it, so I'll reply here.
Dividing 500 by 32 equals 15.8. And you can say “oh no, there is no way every team can sign 15-16 players plus draftees”. But guess what? This does happen every year.
Cowboys had 22 FAs on the roster 2009-’10, resigned 8 and signed 6 from the market.
Giants had 32, resigned 10 and signed 14 from the market.
Eagles had 26, resigned 6 and signed 12 from the market.
Redskins had 39, resigned 11 and signed 18 from the market.
That’s an average of 21.25 signings per team in the NFC East. And all those unemployed unsigned FAs are bottom of the roster guys.
If you want to see all the other teams, go to
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2010
- Formerly fan since '65.
We're talking apples and oranges.
First of all, that page you provided has players on it that are not even FA’s, so the information isn’t current. But, to address the point you’re trying to make:
Teams do sign a large number of players per year, but all but a few of them are only on the team as injury replacements, only for a few weeks, only for training camp, or as one year band-aid players. Churn players. If you count only the players who will be bidding for starting jobs, the percentage of players is higher, the number of players is higher. I’m speaking in terms of the players that are currently on the market that will sign multi-year deals and probably play out that contract. You’re talking total numbers.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
You (and the media) are also talking total numbers when you say there are 500 FAs right now.
An FA is an FA is an FA, regardless of whether they are a starter or a churn player.
Teams do sign a large number of players per year, but all but a few of them are only on the team as injury replacements, only for a few weeks, only for training camp, or as one year band-aid players.You just made my point for me.
And that page was FAs from the 2009 season, so yeah, a lot of them are no longer FAs. I used 2009 because the 2010 season FAs are the guys who are locked out right now and haven’t been signed so there is no data.
- Formerly fan since '65.
So...I can't agree with you to a certain extent?
It’s all or nothing? Allow me to say it again. Yep, there’s lots of players every year involved in churn. Hundreds. You are absolutely right. However, you seem to be ignoring my point about all the players who are going to be FA’s that otherwise wouldn’t have been without the new CBA. This gets frustrating sometimes.
I think my work is done here.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Sure, we can agree some.
I just thought your original point was about how all of a sudden, there will be hundreds of unemployed FAs that teams can’t sign. And I wanted to point out that that happens every year and teams handle it.
Now, your point about some extra FAs this year due to new FA rules is valid. But not all 500 FAs are “extra” compared to the past.
- Formerly fan since '65.
Granted.
But my original point was speculation, and I did say that.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.
Okay. The media and especially BSPN have all been talking about the 458 FAs (most just round up to 500).
I just wanted to correct the typical media hype machine. Sorry I came down on you specifically.
- Formerly fan since '65.
the same way Daniel Snyder has done it for years
He steals every other idea from Dallas. It’s time we learned the one thing he is a good owner for, cap manipulation.
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C’mon.
You have to be kidding. You want to emulate Dan Snyder. How has that worked out?
Let me put this in concrete terms. Here’s Ware’s contract roughly (I couldn’t find the 2009-2010 salaries. It included a $20M bonus which is amortized over the life of the contract.
Year / Salary / Amortized Bonus / Total Cap $
2009 / 6.0 / 2.9 / 8.9
2010 / 7.0 / 2.9 / 9.9
2011 / 6.7 / 2.9 / 9.6
2012 / 4.5 / 2.9 / 7.4
2013 / 5.5 / 2.9 / 8.4
2014 / 12.3 / 2.9 / 15.1
2015 / 13.8 / 2.9 / 16.6
now say Dallas reworks Ware’s contract for 2011. His salary is $6.7 so instead they give him a $6.7M bonus (which is amortized over the remaining 5 years of the contract) and pay him $0 of salary (and yes, I know they ’d have to pay a veteran min, just assume they could pay zero for the example).
Year / Salary / Amortized Bonus / Amortized Bonus 2 / Total Cap $
2009 / 6.0 / 2.9 / 0 / 8.9
2010 / 7.0 / 2.9 / 0 / 9.9
2011 / – / 2.9 / 1.34 / 4.2
2012 / 4.5 / 2.9 / 1.34 / 8.7
2013 / 5.5 / 2.9 / 1.34 / 9.7
2014 / 12.3 / 2.9 / 1.34 / 16.4
2015 / 13.8 / 2.9 / 1.34 / 17.9
Yay! Ware’s cap number is down to $4.2M from $9.6M for 2011. You’ve created $5.4M of cap space in 2011. But at what cost? The cost is an extra $1.3M in 2012 – 2015.
What’s is going to take for people to realize borrowing from the future to spend today is rarely a good idea.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 20, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
here’s the link for the contract details.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 20, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
BTB had a post up on Ware’s contract in excruciating detail here.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 20, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
And what exactly is the alternative?
You’ve got sign Doug Free, and to clear enough room to do that you’ve got to rework those contracts. And you’ve got to sign your rookies. This is essentially buying players on margin, but that’s a safe bet since the salary cap is very likely to shoot upward over the next few years.
by TheBlueBaron on Jul 20, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
if that’s what’s required to sign Free and the rookie so be it.
I wouldn’t be encouraged if Dallas also borrowed from the future to spend on expensive FAs.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 20, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
All this isn't bad in and of itself.
If the idea now is to cut salaries so that several bad contracts, (e.g., Barber, Newman, Davis, Columbo, R. Williams), can be dumped, and then some key FAs can be signed, (e.g., Free, 2DL), then there isn’t a huge problem. The problem, in my relatively uneducated opinion (at least compared to most folks here like FITT and JimmyK), is Jerry Jones’ “loyalty.” It’s a nice thing in concept, however, he overpays drastically for players. Barber and R. Williams contracts are just ridiculous and incredible mistakes. If JJ learned from the mistakes, so be it. But he keeps doing it over and over. I understand that we need to pay Austin and the like, but he often gets into horrible contracts, and they’re not necessarily. (I’m not saying Moneyball either).
If Jones went forward with restructuring deals, in order to purge some bad deals, and to give reasonable contracts to young, impact, non-name, FAs for depth and fortification of weak areas, I would be more relieved. I’m worried about an NA deal just compounding an ongoing problem.
JimmyK, you say that the Cowboys have an ugly cap situation. Too true. I have complete faith in the team to maneuver within those limits. However, I have no faith that they we learn from the mistakes and not repeat them in the future.
You could figure out which "exec from another team" sees this and ask him.
Or you could re-read OCC’s article from 6 weeks or so ago that pointed out that the Cowboys’ salary totals for 2010 are not what they will be in 2011 because they front loaded a bunch of contracts for that uncapped year. Couple that with some restructuring of existing and voila. You forget Stephen is in charge of this kind of stuff now.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
Destroying the cap? What???
Paying a player up front, instead of over the course of the year doesn’t affect the cap in any long term way, only the period that you accelerate the pay. In this case, it can be as little as 1 year. If your organization has better than average cash flow, then it isn’t a big burden. Dan Snyder is the perfect example. You can question how well he builds his team, but you can’t question how he makes money second only to the Cowboys.
Side note: People are working on the assumption that the 2011 cap is $120mil, but I’ve read that this is a soft cap for the first year that goes up to $128mil…you really thing Jerry is stupid enough to buy off on a new CBA that cripples his own team? Don’t question Jerry on his business acumen…
Paying a player up front, instead of over the course of the year doesn’t affect the cap in any long term way
Yes it does.
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Go up about about 5-6 comments for “fan in think and thin’s” example on DeMarcus Ware. Same thing applies to Tony Romo. Romo is on the hook for $9 million in salary this season. I’m going to leave out a few minor details here for the sake of not making this an 8 paragraph reply, but the crux of it is that the Cowboys pay out Romo’s 2011 salary as an upfront bonus, and the $9 mil will spread out over 3 years. So in other words, Romo would count $3 million against the cap this season instead of $9 mil, but the remaining $6 they saved this season would be added to his cap number for the remainder of his deal as a proration ($3 mil added in 2012, and $3 mil added in 2013).
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And you expect the salary cap to remain $120M for '12 and '13?
With that new TV deal kicking in? Seriously?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
Ha, hey bud… I’m just explaining the salary cap rules. That’s all.
It appears as if your preference is to push off cap burdens to future years, just so that you can sign a few players in free agency this season. Personally, that’s not how I’d play it.
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Ha, hey bud . . . I don't think you can legitimately infer what my "preference" is. It doesn't matter
because I’m not the GM.
However, I was merely responding to your Chicken Little scenario that suggests that prorating some of Romo’s 2011 salary over 2012 and 2013 when the cap is projected to increase, thus absorbing those extra $3M per year, is somehow mortgaging the future.
If the cap was staying at $120M, I’d say, yeah, you’re putting off today’s problems. Until I read that’s the case, I’ll maintain my optimism and you can stick with gloom and doom.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
However, I was merely responding to your Chicken Little scenario that suggests that prorating some of Romo’s 2011 salary over 2012 and 2013 when the cap is projected to increase, thus absorbing those extra $3M per year, is somehow mortgaging the future.
One player certainly isn’t mortgaging the future, but when we’re talking about re-doing enough deals to get $20 million under the cap this year, then yeah, I’d say that the Cowboys would be mortgaging the crap of their future. Call my warnings “chicken little” or whatever all you want, but compared to the rest of the league the Cowboys cap situation is a mess. There’s really no debating that.
And maybe you’re right. Maybe the cap will jump from $120 to $200. If that’s the case, the Cowboys will be in awesome shape, just like the rest of the league. But just FYI, on average the past decade, the cap jumped about 7-8% most years. If that pattern stays the same, that might provide a little relief, but by no means will it save them.
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but when we’re talking about re-doing enough deals to get $20 million under the cap this year,
yes. It’s the $20M figure that’s ugly. I thought Dallas was over the cap so to get to $20M you’re talking $20M+ restructured.
For the sake of argument say it’s $30M and the average remaining length of the contracts is 4 years, then you’re borrowing ~$7M / yr from the next 3 years.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 20, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
So this 20M 'over the cap'...
is that with or without this years expiring contracts?
Right on, bro!
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you referring to the guys coming off the books next offseason?
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This offseason, for instance Doug Free is not currently signed. So is this 20M over the cap including what he was making last year?
No, it would not include Doug Free’s, Stephen Bowen’s Marcus Spears’ etc’s 2010 salaries. They’re already off the books when people talk about the salary cap for this season.
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Ok that is a mess
Is this because certain players are costing more against the cap this year?
to be precise, there is no
20M ‘over the cap’…
the article said Dallas could get $20M UNDER the cap.
However, my understanding was that Dallas was already OVER the cap (I don’t know by how much, call it $XM)
The amount required to be restructured to get $20M UNDER will be $20M + $XM currently over cap
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 20, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
"And maybe you’re right. Maybe the cap will jump from $120 to $200."
Come on JimmyK, I’ve been reading around here long enough to know you’re more rational than that. How is my saying the cap WILL go up in succeeding years saying it will “jump from $120M to $200M?”
You’re getting overly emotional about this topic.
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by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I couldn’t possibly be less emotional.
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So the straw man and hyperbole are merely rhetorical strategies?
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Apologies, but I have no idea what we’re even debating at this point.
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I was questioning your strategy of claiming I said the cap would go up from $120M to $200M.
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by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
No, you didn’t volunteer any specific numbers, the same way I didn’t suggest that Romo’s $3 million proration per season alone was “mortgaging the future.”
But let’s get further away from the point, and argue nothingness just for the hell of it. This is fun.
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No, I think we're done with this.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
This is well put.
But just FYI, on average the past decade, the cap jumped about 7-8% most years. If that pattern stays the same, that might provide a little relief, but by no means will it save them.
I agree. But I’m not expecting to come down from $139M to $120M by cap juggling alone. I’m expecting to juggle down from about $128M because at least $11M of 2010 salaries don’t roll over to 2011 because they were front loaded in the uncapped year (per OCC).
So a 7.5% increase from $120M is $9M. Which would put 2012 at $129M.
I think Stephen can handle it.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
And I realize that personally you'd like to see the Eagles sign Free
because we can’t, so it’s not as if we’re not both expressing our self-interest here.
"We'll see." --Bill Parcells
The cap is going to go up dramatically with the upcoming rise in tv revenue.
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Dallas will owe money to the league and will have to give up all its player, plus cash. And Stephen
Your information must be bad.
Don't believe everything you think.
exactly.cowboys will only have a roster of 20
And only field 7 on each side haha
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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 20, 2011 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
i cant see Jerry agreeing to any deal that would put him in major cap trouble. once a few players are cut & a few contracts are reworked $100-$106 million looks pretty decent.
theres no question they need Free, Bowen & Kosier but after reading up on Sensabaugh teams are going to over pay for him quick.
it would be nice to see Free, Bowen, Kosier, DE (FA), SS (FA), FS (FA)…
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I have heard the situation is bad
I have heard the $136 number, but only from the one ESPN source or something.
I could understand with the roster that we have, that it could be bad, but where did these numbers come from? Do we have a breakout. I have looked at what I could from RotoWorld and other sites for salary information don’t get anywhere close to that.
I think some players will be released first
It might be a same day thing,.so and so released then free signed
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yup
Cuts then sign Free, one of our DEs, and a couple small name FAs (maybe our own returning players,)
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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 20, 2011 6:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I expect that to.
A wave of cuts fast then signings and restructurings.
I think the first move is to cut MBIII.
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I agree
The first order of business is shedding dead weight and whatever money is necessary to be able to free up space to resign Free/Bowen and go after needs.
by NerdVernacular on Jul 20, 2011 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you not read OCC's article from a month or so...
ago where he clearly indicates that MBIII’s contract is such to where if he’s cut, he counts just about the same on the cap (6 mil or so) because of the accelerated bonus hit? Best scenario I would think is to renegotiate his deal upfront and that would provide both sides some flexibility. Then the Boys could decide whether to keep him or not in a reduced role if he has a good camp. They could also then trade him with a much friendlier contract. Marion is then assured of some direction as opposed to just getting whacked because of his salary and hoping someone would pick him up off waivers.
And maybe I’m just totally off-base and Dallas simply takes the hit and moves on regardless—as you suggest. But it wouldn’t free up but 100-200K at the most.
by ChuckCowboy on Jul 20, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Yup, great piece by OCC. I use it for reference regularly.
There’s no room for Barber on the roster. They’re not going to keep 4 RBs, and there isn’t a team in the league that’s touching that contract with a 10-foot pole in a trade scenario.
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That's true, and OOC's article was a great one
However, it was written before one of the more game-changing potential rules was thrown around in CBA negotiations: that signing-bonus money won’t count against the cap if the player is cut.
That’s huge, because it allows teams to cut players to save cap room without really getting any cap penalty counted against them.
by Admiral Dallas on Jul 20, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhh....thanks. A game-changing provision indeed.
Now I can truly envision who gets cut.
Whooh...there goes Roy...lol
Somehow, I knew Jerry wouldn’t buy off on a CBA that would leave us in a sh*tty situation…
I think it's to cut RW
But I made that clear here.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
its a crazy number if they cut Roy so unless theres a sucker trade he stays in Dallas.
If Roy did the right thing he would rework his deal for less money against the cap & if he produces then have escalators kick in. if not then Dallas cuts him next season & he falls off quicker then TO.
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+1
MBIII provided a few good years of some great runs but his time is up in Dallas. i still look for him to get picked up pretty quick by a team that needs a dependable pass blocker that would be decent okay with limited reps in a rotation. his days of being paid like a starter were over before they started but he still has something to offer if healthy.
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That has
Absolutely nothing to do with the Cowboys. Sensabaugh is an unrestricted free agent. He isn’t ours to trade or release.
Re-signing him, however, would be a wise move. He was as good as Huff last year, with 5 picks, even though he had to look over his shoulder to watch ball, and help on everyone that burned the injured Newman. Also, he has been a consistently above average safety, whereas Huff was a colossal failure who finally had a good year.
If Matt Leinart ends up starting for some team and throws 20 touchdowns and 15 picks, will everyone think he’s incredible? (unfortunately, yes)…
by CotySaxman on Jul 20, 2011 9:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
he's a progress stopper for younger Safeties
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 20, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Right
And Romo is slowing down McGee.
Both are true, in equal parts. Sensabaugh is three years younger than Romo. Many of our younger safeties may be out of the league by the time Sensabaugh slows down. At no time would I consider removing an under 30 player who is the best on the team at his position, in favor of an undeveloped prospect. The only thing he’s keeping us from is the next Alan Ball experiment.
by CotySaxman on Jul 20, 2011 12:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This. Church and McCray, or all the good they've done in special teams
aren’t SS starters. I’d much rather have Sensi on the team than do another Ball experiment on one of those guys. The only player worth trying out would be Owusu-Ansah, and I know a lot of you see him at SS, but I project him more as a FS
by Admiral Dallas on Jul 20, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
AOA
AOA
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“when Sensi slows down” lol oh yeah he’s such a ravenous play maker
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by Archie Barberio on Jul 20, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
you build a team around players like Romo
you don’t build a team around mediocre players like Sensi
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 20, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
they wont be building the team out of ANY strong safety no matter who it is. you cant have probowlers at every position.
by DavidLaFleur on Jul 20, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Troy Palamalu and when he was healthy
Bob Sanders, were two recent SSs you could build your D around.
This guy is jovially comparing Romo, a franchise corner stone, to Sensi, an interchangeable part
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 20, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Sensabaugh is just to inconsistent as a blitzer, tackler & in coverage.
for every good play he made theres one that makes you shake your head. what would be wise is to find a SS at a cheaper price that fits RR system & it gives them more $ to find a FS or DE.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
+1
Sensabaugh is getting over paid & i thank the suckers that take him off our hands. He doesn’t blitz very well, his coverage is shakey & he just doesn’t offer any threat in the box or out.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
1.8 mil for a 5 int safety is overpaid?
Have you seen some of the other players on this roster? And you’re singling out Sensabaugh?
I also completely disagree with your assessment on the guy. He’s been effective blitzing and his coverage is shakey about as much as any other decent player’s coverage
by Admiral Dallas on Jul 20, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
His next contract will be fairly big
i wouldn’t give him that money. He’s shown time and again to do the least amount possible. I wouldn’t trust his work ethic after he gets paid
by somebodyquiet on Jul 20, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
The way Jerry operates
whatever move they do first will be wrong. Cutting dead weight like Barber and such always comes a year late in Dallas.
Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !
Oh man. You must be the life of every party you go to.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 20, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. At least he has LSU.
OH wait, didn’t I read they’re getting slapped around by the NCAA for violations.
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by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes they did
However they took a proactive stance. When Miles learned of the violation he fired the coach and cut the player. As well as self reporting the violation. Something USC and others would never consider doing. Hail to the purple n gold.
Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !
by football mensa on Jul 20, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure anyone who defends Les Miles
Gets to judge anyone else’s football decisions.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
How did Bammy do
vs LSU last year. He out coached Saban. LOL.
Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !
by football mensa on Jul 20, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
All of those incredible MENSA parties, right?
by CotySaxman on Jul 20, 2011 9:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
6-10
That’s what you got from the great Jerry Jones. He can’t build a team or hire the right coach. He wants to do it his way and 1 playoff win in 15 years says it all. However you keep on believing in Jerry. Sad isn’t it ? I hate what he has made the Cowboys become. A true laughing stock of the Nfl. Overrated and every fan knows it. How about the dominance at home in the new palace ? Oh wait never mind. 09 draft , woot! Great huh ?
Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !
by football mensa on Jul 20, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
He actually did hire the right coach in Garrett
and if you mention the 6-10 gotta mention the 3 championships as well too.
In Romo we Trust
No, we don't have to mention the 3 SBs.
If Jerry was so great in getting those SBs, why can’t he sustain it? Because he didn’t get those SBs. Jimmy did.
What is the only difference between then and now? Jimmy. Jerry is still here, and getting no where near a SB.
- Formerly fan since '65.
why couldn't jerry sustain it? he sustained it for another SB after Jimmy left.
Jimmy is the one who didn’t sustain it, went to miami and couldn’t win another. Now there are a lot of other factors that go into this. But, if you want to make this into a Jimmy vs Jerry fight. Fact is, Jerry has one more SB ring than Jimmy if thats all you care about.
That's something I've been saying for years
I don’t want to have a Jimmy vs. Jerry debate, but I’m sick of people thinking it was all Jimmy and no Jerry, because that’s simply not true at all. The two were a great tandem, but that’s what they were—a tandem.
Jimmy couldn’t win in Miami, even with the great Marino. I think he’s an incredible coach, but Specific is right here: Jerry has one more ring than Jimmy. I’m not saying that makes Jerry better, but you absolutely can’t say Jerry wasn’t a big part of their equation for success.
by Admiral Dallas on Jul 20, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t want to have a Jimmy vs. Jerry debate, but I’m sick of people thinking it was all Jimmy and no Jerry, because that’s simply not true at all
I could be wrong, but isn’t there a strong case it was all Jimmy.
Jimmy won back to back SBs in 92-93. Switzer comes in and Dallas loses to the 49ers in the conf. final. Dallas signs Deion Sanders away from the 49ers and manages to win in 1995, after which the wheels come off.
You have to look at the change. Switzer inherited a 12-4 team Super Bowl champ. He went 12-4, 12-4 & SB (signing the #1 FA), 10-6, 6-10.
JJ took over a 9-7 Miami team and went 8-8, 9-7, 10-6, 9-7. No great improvement but no decline either. Wannstedt took over and went 11-5, 11-5.
When I look at the records, it suggests that Dallas declined after Johnson left. To conclude that Jerry was responsible of Dallas’s success based on the 3rd SB that required paying for the #1 FA seems like poor conclusion.
OTOH, Miami didn’t decline under Johnson.
So what’s my conclusion? Maybe Johnson wasn’t as great a coach as he appeared. He needed the windfall from the Herschel Walker trade to get to the Super Bowl. But on balance Johnson was responsible for more of Dallas’s success than Jones.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 20, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are not wrong. It was Jimmy.
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Jerry's "extra" ring came with Jimmy's players.
Jimmy tried to start from scratch in Miami, under the new FA rules.
Everything I’ve read and viewed says that the players won the third SB despite Barry and the organisation, not because of it.
And everything I’ve read and viewed says that Jerry stayed out of Jimmy’s way while he learned what it was like to own a NFL team. And then after we won a couple SBs, Jerry said, okay I got it now, I don’t need you anymore.
And even if we agree that it was a tandem, why can’t Jerry do it again? Are there no other coaches anywhere that can team with Jerry to win another SB? In the last 16 years, why couldn’t Jerry do it again?
- Formerly fan since '65.
and yet other teams have won super bowls, got to the playoffs regularly, etc. yet somehow that trick has escaped Jerry
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The question was why didn't Jerry keep what Jimmy had going.
The salary cap came into being and you could no longer have such depth and stars as those teams had.
No, the question is why couldn't jerry do it again?
My answer is that Jerry is not a very good General Manager and it was Jimmy Johnson who had the eye for talent and built those teams.
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Not that my comments will change anything b/c I think you have it set in your mind that...
Jerry sucks, and there is nothing anyone can say that will change your mind but the previous 2 points by “Fan in Thick and Thin” and “Rena” are valid retorts.
1) Jimmy never had the same success as when he was teamed up with Jerry
2) The rules revision (Salary Cap & Free Agency) changed how teams could prolong a dynasty
My comments would add that I agree that Jerry sucked as GM right after Jimmy left because he held on too long to players he felt a loyalty too instead of “brooming” them like the Patriots and the Eagles have done. I understand it is a weakness, but I like that Jerry is loyal. Because of this loyalty, we got into cap hell by still paying for players past their prime that eventually left the team. Upwards of a quarter of our salary cap was dead money in those years right after Jimmy. Jerry compounded the problem by “throwing hail marys” in the draft to try to rebuild this team on the cheat. It took all of the Campo HC years to clear this mess up, and the first thing he did was hire Parcells, and our rise began again…
Jerry is only a liability to the team when he doesn’t have a strong HC in place. I think he has one in place now with Garrett, and also one that he really wants to succeed. Jerry is not the best GM in the league, but he is by far not the worst…
If Jerry Jones did not own the team, Jerry Jones the General Manager would have been fired long ago
Hell, The Roy Williams Trade by itself is a fireable offense, if the GM was accountable to anyone other than himself.
Jerry is a brilliant business man. He will be in the Hall of Fame due to the way he has revolutionized the business side of the NFL. I just do not see how anyone can point to his record as GM and say “Good Job, JJ!”
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I never said he was a good GM, in fact I have said he has made a lot of bad or questionable decisions.
But I don’t agree that it was all Jimmy and no Jerry for the glory days of the triplets.
And I agree with your point Cali, with a strong HC teamed with Stephan to keep Jerry under control Jerry will be a good GM, he is always a good owner.
Why are we arguing this? You are agreeing with us!
Jerry is only a liability to the team when he doesn’t have a strong HC in place.
with a strong HC teamed with Stephan to keep Jerry under control Jerry will be a good GM
Good HCs don’t need Jerry. Jerry is the one who needs a strong HC, therefore Jerry is the one who sucks.
- Formerly fan since '65.
I hope everyone is right about Jerry's son being a great GM in waiting, but how often does nepotism work out for the best?
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If Jerry was forced to sell the team, do you think the new owners would retain him as General Manager?
If Jerry were to hit the open market, would any other NFL team hire him as General Manager?
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by Seanrude on Jul 20, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You hope he hired the right coach in Garrett. Let's put away the anointing oils until he does something
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Haters gon hate.
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by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone can pick one season and say
“6-10, that’s what you get from…”
If you’re going to fake a mensa membership, you might as well at least TRY to put together an intelligent, coherent argument.
by Admiral Dallas on Jul 20, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
5-11 too
We had 3 years of 5-11. Parcells era was very medicore. Also with a 6-10 season. Jerry made a huge mistake hiring Wade. Wade’s m.o. is to start strong then fizzle. My argument is 1 playoff win in 15 years. What’s your intelligent retort ?
Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !
by football mensa on Jul 20, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
would you know it
if you read it?…probably not…..
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 20, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That's all you got ?
Aren’t you supposed to be ironman ?
Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !
by football mensa on Jul 20, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
There are always...
…some seriously stupid commenters on these blogs, but none of them have such an egregious misnomer as you.
I disagree with mensa, but let's not get into calling one another stupid.
I love that this blog doesn’t have a bunch of immature folks hooting and hollering and insulting each other. Mensa has strong opinions, and they’re very different from mine, but let’s keep this place the sophisticated site it truly is.
Jazzbo
very well put. I do have strong opinions because I don’t see Jerry doing his job properly. I don’t think a player will be good just because Jerry drafts him. I think the 1 playoff win in 15 years says it all. Jerry said Wade knew Nfl talent. Really ? What did they get in the 09 draft ? Jerry trading for Roy has hamstrung this team. I have been a fan since 70 and Dallas is a joke right now. Jerry doesn’t take the safety postion seriously. Jerry thinks you can just plug in guys. Also why doesn’t Dallas play young guys ? The Packers did and won a superbowl. Jerry as gm is not conducive to winning football.
Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !
by football mensa on Jul 20, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
only a true idiot
would say trading for Roy has hamstrung this team in any significant way. But then I notice that the actual IQ of this one is the opposite of his name.
by burmafrd1944 on Jul 20, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
We may have different definitions of hamstrung, but you are not arguing that trading for Roy has helped the team, are you?
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I don't think anyone would suggest it has helped.
But you could argue that it isn’t the reason we are in the situation you are.
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LMAO @ burm
I guess not having a first round pick in the 09 draft didn’t hamstring Dallas eh ? We only could have had Oher. But no we got Roy the consumate underachiever. You need to bring something a little stronger to the table.
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by football mensa on Jul 20, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
actually some team will probably love to have MBIII in a limited role & at decent price.
.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
I'm guessing the order is something like:
In the first three days:
1. Sign UDFAs.
2. Cut a handful of players for contract and performance reasons. (Don’t know who without greater knowledge of how they’re approaching FA)
3. Sign 2 DL.
4. Sign Free.
After first three days:
1. Start looking at FAs, including, in order of importance: S, DL (if necessary), CB, OLB, G.
2. Sign rookies.
After that:
1. Go 16-0
2. Win Super Bowl.
3. Prepare for victory parade.
No.
Because they will be the last free agents made available. After 3 days of same team signing, and then a couple days of veteran signing…finally udfas will be available.
by CotySaxman on Jul 20, 2011 12:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What happens to the Roster Bonuses
that would have triggered(say in June)if not for the lockout. Believe MBIII was due one.
If the CBA is approved, lockout ends this week and the League Year starts July 23 – does he earn that? There were a few others, Columbo, I believe as well. Or, if they are immediately cut, does that negate the bonus? Suppose a renegotiation would address this, but its yet another complicating factor.
In Finance – common wisdom is don’t put a depreciating asset on credit – paying interest and principal over time for something that loses value over time. Not to turn this into an economic discussion, I’m aware of the potential tax benefits, but the analogy seems apt.
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Good question.
I haven’t seen any leaks on this point at all.
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by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
look on the bright side guy's,
we are going to have football back this week.
less of the doom n gloom ( cap situation) and let’s just " rejoice footballs back".
Go Cowboys……
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by scotscowboyfan on Jul 20, 2011 12:18 PM CDT reply actions
I'm with you davie
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by Uncle Angus on Jul 20, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Tweet tweet lol ... :)
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by scotscowboyfan on Jul 20, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Salary Cap Wizards
Joe Banner and the Eagles are salary cap wizards…and spin doctors to boot.
Every year they broadcast how wonderfully they play the salary cap game…and every year Andy Reid also holds an end of season presser with the following phrases…“I should have put my players in a better position to make plays…” and my favorite “I take responsibility for what happened…”
A decade plaus and counting…Way to Go Salary Cap Champs!
I’ll ask you a simple question: Would you rather be $20 million under the cap heading into the most intriguing free agency in recent memory, or $20 million over the cap?
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Lot of holes to fill
Eagles have a lot of holes to fill…that is why they are 20 million under the cap.
Oh, and they should probably get around to paying their franchise QB Kevin Kolb…whoops, I mean Mike Vick and DeSean Jackson looks like he has his hand out too….wait, oh, I’m sorry – that’s Drew Rosenhaus with his hand out and DeSean standing behind him smiling wide…
Seriously – Ousted in the wildcard at home…and now with Mike Kafka at QB by week nine? Eagles are silly….ooh, and I forgot – Brett Favre.
Hmmm… You must have clicked reply to the wrong question, so I’ll try again:
Would you rather be $20 million under the cap heading into the most intriguing free agency in recent memory, or $20 million over the cap?
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It's not a legit question -
Over the cap with Romo, Ware, Austin, Bryant, and the rest of the Cowboys OR under the cap with Mike Vick, Jackson, Cole, Samuel and the Eagles….that’s the question.
And frankly, for me – that’s a toss up because I believe the Cowboys are more talented than the Eagles as it stands right now.
What I could do for twenty million more – Then the tables may turn.
Really -
I see 0-0 vs. 0-0
but if you are still pounding out last year’s stats…that’s great…
I’m sure the Green Bay Packers are also quite pleased with last season.
I don’t even know how to reply to this, haha.
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JimmyK
You are a good dude…I like your spunk on the boards and you make excellent points…that’s what makes football talk fun.
5 superbowls > 0 superbowls
It’s not a dig at the Eagles, but it’s an equally legitimate claim. We both know there are a lot of factors that went into each stat (records from this season and Super Bowls past)—many of which are no longer in play.
by Admiral Dallas on Jul 20, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Cowboys beat the eagles all 3 times the year before
and that didn’t help the Cowboys this last year. So how is your 10-6 record going to help you this year?
…and thanks for predictably not answering my simple question. Another win for Jimmy!
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You win.....again....
Oh, and hey, congrats to Eagles Franchise QB Mike Vick for appearing before Congress to deliver this golden nugget “…kids need education so they won’t hurt animals….”
Had no idea kids were predisposed to animal cruelty.
Thank you number 7….
Do not hang your hat on last season -
Every player is older, teams should be healthier, the chemistry changes, the coaches (Especially in the Eagles case this season) change, the draft picks have to be factored in and guys who were a year or two in the league may be ready for much larger roles this season…everything changes so much that I file away last season and move on to the next and come September, the Cowboys are 0-0.
Plus in the Cowboys here is a perfect example -
Cowboys were a dreadful 1-7 under coach “Aww Shucks” and were blown out numerous times.
Cowboys turned around to go 5-3 under Garrett and played competitive close games in all three losses (Saints, Eagles, Cardinals)
That is an example of two completely different teams in the same season – let alone changes that occur over an entire off-season.
The Cowboys were competitive against the Cardinals? Sweet.
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Christmas Night in Arizona
Playing for squadoosh?
Usually that’s a game the away team lays down for…and the Cowboys naturally did for a half…but Garrett, to his credit, got them to play hard to finish and they almost won.
Gave Garrett a good grade for that one given the circumstances.
Not sure how many Jewish guys play for the Cardinals, but I think it was Christmas for them too. Congrats on the moral victory though. Sometimes even when you finish hard and lay it all on the line, you can just come up short to John Skelton. We’ve all been there.
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didn't you guys get beat by a shaun hill-led detroit lions team?
by johnnypocket on Jul 20, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, well, you lost to the Vikings. Wait crap, can’t say that because we lost to them too. Yeah, well you lost to the Redskins! Oh wait… crap. You guys lost to Tennessee!! Oh wait. Dammit. I could say that we beat the Eagles Week 17, but then he’ll just make fun of me for bragging about beating the Eagles’ 2nd string.
Hmmmmm…
Oh yeah, well you don’t have any Super Bowls!
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Cowboys and Eagles
The Cowboys had an awful season.
The Eagles won the division.
And on Super Bowl night.
Aaron Rodgers said – “So what?”
It’s all about the trophy…
Perhaps, but it’s also nice to have you team playing meaningful games in Week 9.
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You are correct
And that’s why Aww Shucks is fired and Big Red is still waddling the sidelines.
You are undoubtedly correct.
Somebody has to go -
Felix Jones – No
DeMarco Murray – No
Marion Barber 3 – (?)
Tashard Choice – (?)
At least one guy has to go, and perhaps two if it helps with the cap for other positions…If Murray is as good as people say, a low end, cheap number three is all that is necessary because there won’t be enough balls to go around.
i say cut MBIII, trade Choice for whatever they can get & sign the undrafted rookie N.Divine.
Murray should be a stud by the end of the season if he stays healthy. Felix can drop some weight to regain his speed & get him back to that 10-15 touches a game. then add Divine as the OW (offensive weapon) & find ways to get that dude the ball in space. Divine has a strong lower body like MJD & he has the wiggle like R.Bush.
Divine would be a lot cheaper then Choice but only if they can get something back for Choice. he did carry this team when both MBIII & Felix were down.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Devine over Nagy
I was hoping they would grab Devine with that final draft pick.
Bill Nagy better be able to play….there were a lot of names out there.
I would also have liked Pat Devlin to seriously battle little Stevie for the third string clipboard role this season.
Devlin is a good kid with a nice arm.
So you're saying
that the Dallas backfield is in such bad shape that they should have drafted 3 players (Murray, Chapas, AND Devine) to fill holes back there instead of the OL?
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by Pnut Gallery on Jul 20, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice photo Pnut
YES!
Felix Jones is a nice player…but is he a 140-150 yard two TD explosion waiting to happen….no.
Tashard Choice is an enigma….can not rely on much from him thus far…has proven very little.
Marion Barber is a slow third down short yardage back at best…and he’s no plow horse on those plays anymore.
The backfield needs a complete overhaul.
Pnut and fellow Cowboys fans - Memo
Tashard Choice is NOT contributing to this team.
For whatever reason – and I do not think it’s talent or heart – he has not performed to expectations and there really isn’t much more that needs to be said or seen.
DeMarco Murray now has a shot at # 2 or even # 1 given time because no one on this team has taken a grip of that role.
Three headed monster? What? Grover, Oscar the Grouch and Elmo? That Sesame Street monster…let’s move on.
If I implied that Choice is the answer
then I’m sorry. I, like a lot of followers here, were high on him going into last season. But, also like many others here, realized that optimism was misplaced.
However, I think Choice would still be a servicable 3rd option (as he has proven) should Felix go down again.That’s all I was getting at. I don’t think that heading into the season with Felix and 3 rooks in the backfield would have been a better move than taking the flyer on Nagy.
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by Pnut Gallery on Jul 20, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Nagy better make the squad
The only pick I disagreed with – UNLESS – down the line he is serviceable, and that means making the team/practice squad this season.
I always prefer to take fliers on skill positions. But that’s why Garrett is an NFL coach and I am typing frivolous nonsense on the site.
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I hope the Cowboys keep tabs on the little chubby kid who did the truffle shuffle at the women’s World Cup…he looks like he could be a good guard by say 2019.
He has good bounce and seems to have a lot of passion.
resign Free
get a Saftey
maybe anh O lineman
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