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HydRob 101: Understanding Rob Ryan's Many-Headed Defense

In the spirit of Air Garrett 101, I decided to take a look at our defense. As a disclaimer, this post was largely the result of reading through the comments on Kegbearer's defensive line explanation, and noticing the relative mystery surrounding how defenses are structured. The following is my attempt to shed some light on Hydrob.

Hydrob = Hydra (many-headed monster) + Rob (organizer of said monster). I noticed there's no dominant nickname, so I had to make one up.

The first thing we'll cover is terminology for defensive assignments. This will make the majority of this post, other defensive posts, and football-speak in general much easier to understand. Later, we'll identify player positions and skill sets for this defense. Finally, we'll try to dig into some Xs and Os to explain why this defense is so effective.


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(Yes, those are little Eaglets.)

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Note that on the above diagram, between the little birdies (which represent offensive linemen), there are letters to the left, and numbers on the right.

Gap Assignments: There are six main gaps in an offensive line. Between Center and Guard, on either side, is an A gap. Between Guard and Tackle, there is a B gap. Finally, between Tackle and Tight End (even if the TE isn't really there) is the C Gap. These gaps are labelled in red on the left side of the diagram.

There are two main assignments for defensive linemen in any defense: 1) 1-Gap Penetration; 2) 2-Gap Contain.

Single-Gap Penetration: In this situation, the lineman pins his ears back. On the snap, he quickly steps into the gap. He sheds the block as quickly as possible, and destroys everything between him and the quarterback (including a ball-carrier, on running plays), and then gently escorts the quarterback to the turf (to avoid a penalty/ejection/fine for violence). In our old system, this was Jay Ratliff's job. This was never Marcus Spears' job, nor was it Igor Olshansky's. Go ahead, check the sack numbers, they will confirm this. Single gap penetration can be used as an effective change of pace when an offensive line is consistently double-teaming the two-gap players. For example, if Marcus Spears is being doubled by the Guard and Tackle while trying to watch his A and B gaps, he can become a single gap penetrator, attacking the A Gap, and leaving the Tackle blocking air, while the Guard is over-matched. This is something that we can expect from Rob Ryan, and we will consequently see what Spears is truly capable of.

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Marcus Spears Penetrates the C Gap (play negated, as Spencer is being held)

2-Gap Containment: This is the blue collar assignment we saw Spears and Igor routinely handed during the games of yesteryear. As a contain-er, the defensive lineman attacks the body of the offensive lineman between the two gaps he's been assigned to. Typically, Marcus would receive B and C responsibility on the defense's left side. He would attack the opposing tackle, and try to get his arms under the opponent's pads. The goal is to be in position to: a) Drive the lineman back into the pocket; and b) Be in position to quickly shed the block and make the tackle on either side. This assignment is said to be the most physically demanding in football, as the goal is to physically dominate and effectively nullify a 300+ pound athlete (and, often, another, as 2-gapping often means being doubled), discarding him when necessary to devour a relatively fast, and powerful in his own right, ball-carrier. This is the run stuffer. This is the space eater. To succeed in this role is to be a beast of a man.

The final skill set, which is often overlooked, is length and jumping ability. In the event that the quarterback is not sacked, the 2-gap linemen must be able to jump high, with his arms in the air, and take away passing lanes. This subtle difference can lead to deflected balls (which are likely to be incompletions, if not interceptions), and, less noticeably, a higher-arcing pass, with more hang-time, which equates to more time for the defensive backs to locate and intercept the ball. (Note: My early searches for "2-Gap Spears" resulted in pictures of fat Britney. Yikes.)

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Marcus Spears and Igor Olshansky stand up the opposing linemen, "eating space" to allow the edge blitz to succeed. Ratliff rushes the right A gap. This is an example of "sending more than they can block," a common Ryan theme, by utilizing 2-Gap linemen with rushing linebackers.

Defensive Alignments: Defensive lineman (and linebackers, albeit further back), align themselves relative to the offensive line. Knowing his assigned position, the defender simply needs to locate the lineman and stand over the head, inside shoulder, or outside shoulder of that man. The assignments are as follows:

     0 Tech: Head up on Center. Typically 2-gapping both A gaps. Standard 3-4 Nose Tackle position.
     1 Tech: Shoulder of Center. Typically will penetrate the same side A gap.
     2 Tech: Inside Shoulder of Guard. Typically penetrating the A gap, with a more direct route to the quarterback.
     3 Tech: Outside Shoulder of Guard. Typically 2-Gapping the A and B gaps. Standard 4-3 DT position.
     4 Tech: Inside Shoulder of Tackle. Typically penetrating B gap.
     5 Tech: Outside Shoulder of Tackle. Typically 2-Gapping the B and C gaps. Standard 3-4 DE position.
     6 Tech: Head up on Tight End, or where Tight End would be. Typically rushing the quarterback. Containment responsibilities. Standard 4-3 DE position.
     7 Tech: Inside Shoulder of TE. Typically rushing the passer.
     8 Tech: Completely Outside of TE: Typically containing the outside, occasionally playing  the flats in a zone.
     9 Tech: Outside Shoulder of TE: Typically rushing the passer, especially when the TE is known to pass protect.

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San Diego lines up in their 3-4 Defense (while failing to prevent Gronkowski's Touchdown). Note that the positions of the men on the line of scrimmage, especially the defensive line, essentially give away their assignments. Look for the extra linebacker to clean up anything in the A or B gaps, and the two spread inside backers to fill the C Gaps.

As a note, it's nice to look at other 3-4 defenses in order to allow us to see that Wade's way is not the only way. In this particular example, the NT is 2-Gapping while the DEs and OLBs penetrate. In contrast, Wade would have the NT and OLBs penetrate while the DEs 2-Gap. While the generalization is often made that 3-4 DEs don't have opportunities to make sacks, many fans argue against that (and rightfully so), giving examples of 3-4 DEs who approach double digits annually. Allow me to refine that generalization, and explain the difference between our DEs production and other teams'. 2-gap players don't get sacks. It's that simple. If you are expected to contain two running lanes, you are not also expected to get to the quarterback. In our system, the DEs are 2-gap players. As many of us know, Wade was averse to change and unpredictability, and, therefore, our DEs were exclusively 2-gap players. Any sack that comes while in a 2-gap assignment is gravy. Not allowing a runner through either of your holes is the meat and potatoes.

In the Hydrob, we can expect to see a mixing of assignments designed to both confuse the offensive line and empower the blitzers. Gone are the days where, on every play, you can watch our Ends plunge headfirst into opposing tackles and wait...and wait...until the play comes their way. Yes! Now, we can watch in anticipation, trying to guess who will do what and smiling gleefully at the possibilities that come with each and every snap. The Cowboys defensive series' will no longer be the time to go fix a sandwich, or grab a beer. Ideally, they'll be no more than 3 plays each, ending in turnovers or punt returns. If not that amazing, they will at least be entertaining to watch.

Above, while breaking down alignments, I gave a preview of what you can expect a player to do based on which Technique he's in. Follow that guide while watching our game film, and you'll be correct over 90% of the time. With Rob Ryan, it isn't so easy. His defense has a poker face. He won't give you a 'tell' and allow you to predict which players are rushing, dropping, penetrating or 2-gapping. A player may line up in the 3 Technique, but rush the A gap on a stunt. This, in itself, is a vast improvement over our past defense. Deception is key.

Linebacker Assignments: The key to a 3-4 system is the linebackers. With all of the possibilities (6 gaps, 19 techniques) there are on the defensive line, the linebackers have the same, and more. Append to the list of responsibilities zone coverage, man coverage, and spying.

Zone Coverage: The most dangerous thing a linebacker can do, from an offensive perspective, is drop into a zone (excluding the pass rush, of course). When a quarterback makes his initial read of the defense, he looks at their alignment, and any "tells" and tendencies that he learned from film study. From this information, he determines who is blitzing, who is in zone, and who is in man. When a deceptive (read: HydRob) defensive player convinces the quarterback that he will be blitzing, the quarterback imagines a hole in the defense. The receiver makes a hard cut inside, beating the corner, and the quarterback throws the ball as the receiver comes out of his break. The deceptive linebacker puts his hands up and begins running the other way for 6 points. Believe it or not, linebackers account for most interceptions thrown by good quarterbacks. The fact that they can 'hide' along the line of scrimmage and then sneak out into a shallow zone is incredibly dangerous. In order to present this opportunity for the defense, linebackers must be adept at zone coverage.

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Sean Lee capitalizes on a disguised zone coverage. Look for Rob Ryan to hand him and Bruce Carter a number of similar opportunities in the years to come.

Man Coverage: Athletic linebackers are key components to any defense. When they're athletic enough to cover backs, tight ends, and even receivers, one-on-one, their value increases dramatically. If you happened to read my Air Garrett 101 posts, you would remember that a primary goal of Coryell-style offenses is to force the safeties to choose between helping on the deep ball, or helping in man coverage. As a defense, having capable man-coverage linebackers allows you to use your safeties in any way you see fit, without being forced into any one role. When any one of your linebackers can be covering any one of the offense's skill players, the complexity of the quarterback's reads grows exponentially. The passing lanes that, against some defenses, may be assured, are suddenly obscured by not knowing who's covering which receiver. Running a slant to beat a corner who gives a decent cushion isn't a guaranteed completion if the man covering him is actually the outside linebacker. In fact, it becomes more of a pick-6 situation. Disguising where your coverage is coming from is equally important in forcing turnovers as disguising where your blitz is coming from.

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2 Cowboys Defenders playing man coverage against the Giants (Far left, top right Cowboys)

Spying: The ultimate playmakers on a defense are sometimes assigned to 'spy.' Spying is essentially playing man-coverage on the quarterback. The defender mirrors the quarterbacks movements, and watches his eyes. His job is to close on the pass if it is thrown, or stop the quarterback if he decides to run. Spying is likely the most mentally challenging assignment on the defensive side of the ball. The defender is in a mental chess match with the quarterback, and then requires the athleticism to get to the ball once its path has been decided. Playing Philadelphia twice a year, expect the Cowboys to frequently put a spy on Michael Vick. A quarterback that can run traditionally demands the respect of a spy, which helps to ensure retribution for any rushing attempts (spying linebacker = head on collision with a running quarterback).

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Michael Vick will have trouble escaping when Bruce Carter is spying on him. Note: Image was taken from a Shutdown Corner article about spying on Michael Vick.

Secondary Assignments: Believe it or not, the secondary players can hold essentially any of the duties that the linebackers have. The key here is proportion. A cornerback will obviously have many more snaps in coverage than he will blitzing the B gap. A safety has the most potential for versatility, as his position allows him to inconspicuously line up anywhere from directly over Center to directly over a Wide Out. There are no 'new' assignments available for defensive backs, so I'll keep this section short. However, if you don't like Nnamdi Asomugha's ability to blitz the quarterback, then you have to consider that there is no 'complete cornerback,' especially in this defense.

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If Asomugha does come to Dallas, how will NumberGate pan out? (He and Mike Jenkins both wear 21)

DEFENSIVE POSITIONS: In this section, we'll discuss what we can look for in defensive RRKGs (Rob Ryan's Kinda Guys). The key point, as mentioned numerous times above, is versatility. If a player is only good at one thing, the offense will expect him to do that one thing, and 9% of the defense's mystique is lost. Field a whole squad of one-dimensional players (something Phillips likely wouldn't hesitate to do), and the result is a defense that, based on their alignment, can only run one play. Pretty easy to beat that.

Side note: I don't like to use traditional terminology, as it can confuse more casual fans. However, for ease of use and increased educational value, I will use the traditional position nomenclature for 3-4 personnel.

Defensive Tackles:

Are expected to play big. They require skill playing both one-gap and two-gap assignments. Their most important attribute is Strength. Dominant strength in order to play two gaps will compensate for any perceived lack of size. It is much easier to be 305 pounds and freakishly strong than it is to be 330 pounds and deceptively quick. Ratliff is ideal. He is quick enough to crash one gap, and strong enough to fill two (although not on every down, which won't be required).

They are not expected to rush the edge with any frequency. They don't need to have incredible top end speed, or possess strong coverage skills. However, if by some turn of events one of our Tackles shows this ability, don't be surprised to see it used on occasion.

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Defensive Ends:

Are expected to fulfill the same responsibilities as a DT. They have the added responsibility of occasional edge rushing, and, due to their normal position being farther away from the quarterback, they need to be slightly faster in order to close the distance when they rush. 300 pounds is ideal, although as small as 285 pounds, with elite strength, is acceptable. Height is a benefit.

They are not expected to rush the passer on every play. They are not required to have outside containment against the run (which is usually done by OLBs).

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Outside Linebackers:

Are expected to be adequate in every aspect of defensive football. They are the primary pass rushers. They occasionally will play man-to-man against slot receivers, flexed tight ends, and backs. They are at times delegated zone coverage responsibilities, defending against screens, slants, hooks, and crossing routes.

They are not expected to spy on the quarterback, except in the case of a double spy (one on each side), because they generally start off on a far side of the formation. Were the quarterback to roll the opposite way, they would be left out of position.

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Inside Linebackers:

Are expected to be primary coverage and spy linebackers. Their position requires the greatest range (speed) of all linebackers. They will clean up any runners that make it through the line (they consistently lead their teams in tackling). They frequently are assigned man coverage on backs and tight ends. They play zones in order to seal off the middle of the field.

They are not expected to cover wide receivers. If an inside linebacker moves all the way to the outside of the defense, there is little mystery as to why it's happening. He's either in man coverage on that receiver, or playing a zone somewhere nearby.

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Cornerbacks:

Are expected to be primary man coverage defenders. Of all positions, they spend the greatest amount of time covering receivers. Their primary variance is between man and zone coverage, or inside and outside (relative to the body of the receiver) leverage. They are generally the least versatile defenders.

They are not expected to blitz, except from the slot. They also never spy, and rarely help against the run.

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Safeties:

Are expected to do everything, with small exceptions. They play extensively in coverage, but are also viewed as integral parts of the run defense. They blitz relatively frequently (and, usually, successfully). They play zones, man-to-man defense, and occasionally will spy on the quarterback. They are expected to be tremendous athletes in relatively small (200-225-pound) packages.

They are not expected to play 2-gap defense on the line. First of all, they're in no way large enough to dominate an offensive lineman, and, second, there is simply no need for that. A Safety is fast enough to split a gap in the line and get to the quarterback before he finishes his drop.

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THE Xs AND Os:

In this, the final section, I will try to apply everything we just covered while analyzing a play from Rob Ryan's defense.

 

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This play can be found at the 3:56 mark of this episode of NFL Playbook.

Yes, the play ends up being a run, and the under-talented Cleveland defense, in a zone, stands no chance against the Ravens dominant line. Finding successful Cleveland highlights, however, is difficult. Finding plays representative of what will happen here is impossible. Take a look at what Rob does here.
1) DT Athyba Rubin (at 330 pounds) fills the two A gaps.
2) DE Titus Adams (at a Ratliff-esque 305) attacks the strongside C Gap.
3 + 4) The two ILBs assume short zones and read the backfield
5) OLB Benard rushes the strongside edge
...and now it gets interesting...
6) Hydrid DE/OLB Matt Roth (at 280 pounds) plays weakside C Gap. As there is no End, he attempts to fill the role of two players, the WOLB and the WDE. Think of Greg Ellis, and you understand what this guy's about. Anthony Spencer might be able to do something like this, which allows...
7) DB Adams, an extra Defensive Back, comes in to keep an eye on Ray Rice
8) CB Joe Haden plays on an island against the secondary receiver
9) Trusting Haden, SS Abram Elam plays centerfield
10) FS Ward plays deep right, to give help to...
11) CB Sheldon Brown, who is lined up on the number 1 receiver.

Every player's unique skillset allows this defense to be called. Without Matt Roth's size, they need another lineman on the field. They are afforded the luxury of a third Corner/Safety to keep tabs on one of the better backs in the NFL, or simply to stalk the middle of the field. Joe Haden's cover skills allow the safeties to completely ignore his side of the field, and give extra help against a team's primary threat.

Almost every play you see run next year will be in one way or another unique from what we've seen in the past. Rob Ryan is a Defensive Coordinator who plays to the strengths of his players. No one will be given an assignment that they cannot handle. I won't claim to be able to predict any of Rob's playcalls, but we can all have fun doing our best. The possibilities are endless in this defense, and I hope to at least have given you the tools with which to dream.

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wow

best article I have read in a long time

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

Follow me at my blog http://chiacrackscowboysblog.wordpress.com/

by Archie Barberio on Jul 21, 2011 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

That says alot

Thanks. Hope I can top myself some other time, I guess

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 2:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

Follow me at my blog http://chiacrackscowboysblog.wordpress.com/

by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Chia

What do you think of using Madden to make videos for these types of posts? I think when I come back to NY I’m going to try.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think I have learned more from this article than any other I have read.

Fantastic tutorial on the Big Robowski’s defensive scheme and the kinds of players needed. Plus now I have some idea what the gaps are all about. Just a magnificent post.

Dave, keep your eye on this guy for future reference.

If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.

by Tom Ryle on Jul 21, 2011 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

We’re keeping our eyes on all you fine folks.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 21, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 22, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it would be great

If highly rec’d posts were promoted to the front page via a link/headline in the front page section. Many users don’t look at the side bars, and mobile users don’t even have side bars. That way, a worthy piece can be viewed by the mainstream audience without the repercussions of making them full-time front page writers. FPotW does this, but I believe in most cases their are more than one or two pieces worthy of a bump to the front. Just a thought :)

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 4:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also from someone who knows, that is not BTB's way.

Hint: You might ask OCC for some info on what goes on with posting and front page writers.

If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.

by Tom Ryle on Jul 22, 2011 5:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh, yes

I heard it involves something like submitting drafts to the editor?

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 6:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

thats what she said!

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

Follow me at my blog http://chiacrackscowboysblog.wordpress.com/

by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Before I'm Anointed...

I have to produce in the regular season, right? If I can give some good post-game analysis (which is my goal) then I will keep posting here for the foreseeable future. If I can’t produce, I’ll just be a flash in the pan (after I’ve run out of ideas, anyway).

Appreciate all the compliments, though. Thanks, Piney.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 2:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Intriguing.

It would be an honor. As a full time student and husband/father, it might be out of reach. Like I said, I’ll test my own abilities here in the fan-post section once the regular season starts.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 4:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If I remember my time as a student correctly, I had nothing but time.

As they say, youth is wasted on the young :-)

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 22, 2011 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope so

As a student of game programming, I may be spending most of that time…programming.

I was thinking that once I get back I can start using Madden to create videos, in lieu of (or complimenting) my paint diagrams.

At most I should be contributing a pre- and post-game analysis article during the season. I may need to work some in order to support my family, ya know?
RIT says I should be spending 60 hours per week, in addition to classes, studying. Therefore, I hope I have the time that you enjoyed.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 8:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

dude awesome post

I was thinking about doing something like this but Honestly I had no Idea where to start…..but this is exactly the post I was thinking about…..

Wait a minute…Get the (site decorum) out of my Head Coty!!!!!

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 21, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

In my short experience...

I think of something interesting and writable, write my introduction explaining the purpose, and then proceed to research, while writing, whatever I need to know. Comment discussions are my main source of inspiration.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 1:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can second this:
Comment discussions are my main source of inspiration.

More than one of my posts were written when I realized my reply to a comment in a thread would be ridiculously long.

Well, that and I love to see my stuff in the Fanposts section.

If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.

by Tom Ryle on Jul 22, 2011 3:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I generally comment anyway

And mention that I might make an article out of it.

I like to see my stuff up…but I much prefer seeing others interact with it, reading comments and such.

Now, I have the luxury of having a post on the highest rec’d all time page, a link from JimmyK on BTBeast, and a FPotW…in my first 3 posts. Needless to say, my expectations for my posts have skyrocketed. I’m disappointed to have less than 10 recs haha

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i can’t wait for the season to start and see if Rob Ryan can come close to the expectations.

I’ll happy if he can just get the defensive passing efficiency up to average.

by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 21, 2011 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Me as well.

Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.

by Creasy729 on Jul 21, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

But I don’t understand… You want him to get the defense to…exist? It was there last year, you just had to squint your eyes and tilt your head slightly to the left.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 2:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No “to”. Just get the Defense under his tutelage. All else will flow from there, whatever comes of it. All it takes it getting this lockout owner/player NFL/NFLPA quibbling advertising campaign over with.

Yep, there last year, just slightly askew, thus the tilt to see it.

btw, fine series of articles you’ve written.

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 22, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, now I get it.

There are just so many meanings for “get.” I agree that he will be magical, given the opportunity.

And thanks, I had to write something decent, since my Bang 8 post only got like 4 recs. No way to win FPotW with only 4 recs, haha. 11? Now I have a chance :)

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

1. He may be magical. Time’ll tell.
2. Write for yourself, because the words need to come out, thoughts needing articulation. That others may find your thoughts interesting, illuminating, humourous, whatever, is high compliment, but not the reason to write.
3. Disregard recs. Ignore such things. But if they and FPotW matter, know that the rabbled (listening, rab?) honour’s been granted without regard to number of recs. Seems ol’ rab’s not influenced much by mere popularity contests. On occasion, they coincide. Or not.
4. Each of your articles have been something “decent”.

btw, you mention game programming. What language(s)?

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 23, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

The curriculum teaches about 10.

I start in the fall. I have used a little (emphasis on little) C++, RGSS, DarkBASIC, VB, and HTML. C++ is the primary language, but programming skills are pretty much universal. RIT is (one of) the top game design schools in America, so I’m pretty excited to start.

Now if you want to talk hardware, I’ve got quite a setup. :)

by CotySaxman on Jul 23, 2011 2:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good for you. Nothing like looking forward and being excited to learn new things, CS. All the best in your education and post-Corps life. And thanks for the reading material, past and future. Welcome to BTB.

I can only reiterate what Fernie’s mentioned below about you appearing to have a talent for clearly articulating your thoughts. Despite your modest protestations and putting aside the formalities associated with the word, you are a “teacher”. You’ve a rare gift.

Ok, hardware, being old-school, my first question is “Is it RISC?” Man, when I think about the computing power you fortunate young have and what we went to the Moon with, it boggles my mind.

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 23, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

It’s X64…

4GHz on 6 cores with hyperthreading, and a GTX580 to make the screen light up :)

by CotySaxman on Jul 23, 2011 11:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

but can you play pacman on it?

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 23, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

for superb hilarity….

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 23, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I don't mean to sound ungrateful

But I’m not the best at responding to compliments. I appreciate all of the kind things people say, however, I’m really looking for someone to come out and say “Hey, you left out…” something, or “your point wasn’t made clearly.” You learn more from a loss than from a win, right? The same goes for negative criticism.

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

You don't sound ungrateful...

Your responses appear graciously modest and your aversion/discomfort relative to compliments is not uncommon within certain personality types. People are simply indicating approval of your work and expressing gratitude for your efforts. In part, because we want more, being greedy little buggers for quality stuff. The constructive criticism you’d prefer will come, as the “newness” of you wears off, as you and your work become more familiar, more part of the established community, so to speak.

“I never learned from a man who agreed with me.” – RAH

And yeah, we learn more from our mistakes than what we do right. Good attitude. Take it from someone whose learned a lot.

btw, you left out….nah, I’ll hold off till I need say “Buddy, you’re wrong. Just plain wrong”.

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 24, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh

who’s, not whose
see?

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 24, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

All in.
Including my Cowboys (poke) gal (her).
No reference goes unpunished.

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 24, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I got one challenge

From chumdawg, below. Hope some more will arise, haha.

As for gratitude, you should see how boring I am on Christmas: “Oh, an XBox (that I knew was coming); thanks.”

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 10:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Coty

Great post. This could be a primer for all to read explaining the basics of the 3-4 defense. At the very least it should be mandatory reading for anyone interested in defense. Well done and highly rec’d.

by pfloyd1 on Jul 21, 2011 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks

Defense isn’t really my specialty, but I felt I could at least explain the basics.

by CotySaxman on Jul 21, 2011 7:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm honored!

And I would’ve been happy with a simple bookmark, haha.

Is there anything else you would like to see an article on? I have a few ideas, but it’s easier to write something that’s in demand. Without an initial question to answer, it simply doesn’t flow as well.

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions  


How do we win one of these?

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 24, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Simple.

By winning the Super Bowl.

My latest flash of inspiration (as of five minutes ago) was to create a simple two number efficiency metric for defensive players on passing downs. I have the base model for scoring, but I don’t have access to every play from last year in order to create it. Is a metric, properly explained, of any interest without the resultant data?

The aim is to solve the drop/blitz ratio conundrum.

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 10:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

OCC, FiTT, kindblue. There. Three names to get ya started on what’ll lay behind your metric and any validity it may embody.

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 24, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

kindablue, sigh.

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 24, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

btw, the trophy’s merely a material representation of winning the game, so the question remains unanswered. In other words, “you left out…”

Gentlemen, we’re 0-16. Let’s change that.

by tanstaafl on Jul 24, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

How do you win a super bowl...

Assuming you’re there, at the game…
You prepare the same way you did every other week. You don’t allow the magnitude of the game to overwhelm you. Put together two weeks of good practice time, and play like the same team that won the conference championship.

Basically, you do what Garrett would tell you to do.

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You can get the official play-by-play for the last ten years for every NFL game here: http://www.armchairanalysis.com/nfl-play-by-play-data.php

And you might want to check out Brian Burke’s work on EPA and WPA (http://wp.advancednflstats.com/defenderstats.php?pos=S)

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 24, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

See? If it's out there, OCC's probably read it.

And figured out if it’s any good.

If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.

by Tom Ryle on Jul 24, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you for that.

But I’m looking for “time.” On every sack and every completed pass, how long did the play last up to that point? You want to get sacks quickly, and you want completions (or receivers beating coverage) to take a long time.

So for every sack, and every completion, I need to see how long the play last, who rushed, and who dropped. From this, calculate an average time value, average delta t, when this player rushes it drops.

An effective rusher should decrease the average time before sacks on every play he rushes. An excellent cover guy should increase the average time before completions. It’s supposed to help figure out what player strengths are, and even solve the question of what our defensive problems were last year.

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 7:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think OCC

did a post on that earlier this year….not sure where it is or what the name of it was, but I remember something similar to that

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 24, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awe. There goes my motivation :(

Is OCC available to confirm this?

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Three Mississippi

Article from late February. Somewhat related to what I want to do (at least it involved half the film review I would need), but it was talking about quarterbacks.

To be specific, I want to grade defensive players’ effectiveness blitzing and covering in units of time.

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I found all of the film

But I will have to wait until I get back to America. My cell phone can’t hold 40GB of video :( I hope to have worked out the metric in two weeks or so :)

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Correctamundo

But replicating that or something similar sounds like an incredible amount of time and effort.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 25, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Basically, I would watch

Every sack we made, and every completion we allowed, while identifying: delta t (snap, sack/catch) and personnel rushing (sack) or covering (completion).

It will pass time until the preseason begins, and possibly be a useful metric.

By the way, I’m only doing Cowboys games, not the whole league.

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 9:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks Fernie

I’m glad to hear it was useful. Is there anything else you guys want to know about? I’m open to topic suggestions :)

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fantastic article.

My only real question revolves around something that really has nothing to do with the Dallas defense. When you covered the techniques and their traditional roles, you wrote that the 3-technique DT is generally a 2-gap player and a traditional 4-3 DT. While a 3-technique tackle is certainly a traditional mainstay of the 4-3, am I wrong in thinking that the 3-technique is often where 4-3 coordinators place their main penetrating tackle to attack a single gap? I ask because I have always read that the 3-technique is the spot where guys like Warren Sapp made their living attacking that B gap.

Either way though, great article.

Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.

by Creasy729 on Jul 21, 2011 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

You're right

And you can do either from the 3 tech. However, for attacking the guard head-on, the best angle is given by the 3 technique. The 4 tech gives a better penetration angle, in my opinion, especially if the tackle has to contend with, say, DeMarcus Ware. What I mean is, a straighter line to the quarterback is better for a 1 gap penetration.

by CotySaxman on Jul 21, 2011 7:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

By the way

Sapp, Haynesworth, Suh, and other 3 technique guys are usually power rushers. They attack the body of the guard with their move, powering through to the quarterback. A finesse rusher would prefer the 4-tech, to go around, rather than through, the guard.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Isn't Suh a 1-technique in the Lions 4-3?

I am pretty sure he is because they just drafted Nick Fairley, who is made to be a 3-technique.

Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.

by Creasy729 on Jul 22, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I just looked it up and it appears he did play some 3-technique this year

but I would imagine he will now be a 1-technique going forward.

Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.

by Creasy729 on Jul 22, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

In my opinion,

I would put the faster of the two in the 3-technique. 3-tech is further from the quarterback, so I would want a faster player to make up for that. Both 1- and 3- techs are great for physical players, because they can get into the body of the lineman and throw him backwards before rushing. You may notice the pattern, here, that 1-, 3-, and 5-techs are for power rushing, through linemen, while 2-, 4-, and 6- are for finesse and speed rushers who would prefer to run past the linemen than over him.

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

so just to clarify

Mario Williams- 1,3, 5 tech…

Demarcus Ware- 2,4,6, tech…..

Would that be correct?

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 24, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two answers to this...

Yes, if they were defensive linemen.

But, no, because they are both OLBs, and therefore occupy techs 5-9. Ware can play any of those (are you questioning his power?), but Williams would, again, fare better in odd-numbered techs.

Instead, compare Ware coming out of Troy, and Spears coming out of LSU. Even and odd (and both linemen).

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

well Until this year Mario was a 4-3 DE

and D-Ware does line up as a DE in the nickel……but I see what you are saying…..

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 25, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that is why I imagine Suh will play the 1-technique.

He is definitely the more powerful of the two and can better control the interior of the line. Plus, Fairley is renowned for his quick first step and I agree that the 3-technique is better for that type of player.

Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.

by Creasy729 on Jul 24, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

there is a reason I used Mario though...
2011: $13.8 million, 2012: Free Agent

just saying, ya know…..

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 24, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston would never

Release a guy who makes plays on defense without juicing. Although maybe one season of Wade will make him seek less squishy pastures.

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with that.

I look forward to our next game against them.

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good article

A couple question: I have always been under the impression that on any single play, every d-linemen was either 1-gapping or 2-gapping. Is this wrong? Also, you say that Wade had our DE’s play 2-gaps mainly (if not exclusively), I thought even our DE’s mainly played 1 gap in our “1-gap scheme”, am I wrong in this assumption?

http://cowboysanalysis.blogspot.com/

by Ben24626 on Jul 21, 2011 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Our 1 Gap

Vs Parcells 2 gap refers to the defensive tackle, as far as I know. This is why Ratliff fits us well—he penetrates.

by CotySaxman on Jul 21, 2011 7:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I missed tour first question, sorry.

Technically, it’s wrong to assume that they are 1 or 2 gap players on every play…only most plays. Occasionally, they may have outside containment. DTs can occasionally spy on mobile QBs who run up the middle. Linemen who are fast enough can also play coverage, usually zones, but this is more common with smaller 4-3 DEs. I hope that clears things up (by making them more complicated)!

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not quite

What I’m asking is on one single play, is it common for one d-linemen to be 1-gapping, whilst another is 2-gapping? I ask because I thought on a single play every d-linemen was either 1-gapping or every linemen was 2-gapping, not a mix. My second question was how much 2-gapping did our DE’s do last year? I ask because I thought they did very little, but you say they did alot, so I just wanted to clarify. Thanks

http://cowboysanalysis.blogspot.com/

by Ben24626 on Jul 23, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh, okay

Yes, it is common to mix them, depending on your personnel.

The DEs were most often in 2 gap, although it’s impossible to say how often. Our base defense put them in good position for it, with the idea of opening holes for the blitzers.

by CotySaxman on Jul 23, 2011 7:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Outstanding, Coty!

This post finally pushed me over the edge, I have started a folder of links to keep for football reference. Just freaking outstanding, man.

Give me UR calls! Give me highstepping by CBs and PRs entering the endzone! Give me screaming on the sidelines and headbutting! Give me Fortitude, Solidarity and VIOLENCE! Bring me CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Bring me Ridolin LOL! - B'nSB

by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 21, 2011 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Great post

as have been the previous posts you’ve made.

Question, why is the 7 technique inside of the 6 technique when it seems to be that the numbering is from the inside out?

6 Tech: Head up on Tight End, or where Tight End would be. Typically rushing the quarterback. Containment responsibilities. Standard 4-3 DE position.
     7 Tech: Inside Shoulder of TE. Typically rushing the passer.
     8 Tech: Completely Outside of TE: Typically containing the outside, occasionally playing the flats in a zone.

by Requiem on Jul 22, 2011 1:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Honestly I have no idea.

My impression is that they created 1-6 long ago, and added 7-9 later, to reflect alignments in new defenses.

I promise it isn’t an error, though!

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 2:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rec'd,good take on our "D" over the last few seasons.

I think Spears needs to be re-signed and you gave some of the reasons why. He plays DE and NT,is strong enough to take the doubles and quick enough to penetrate.He also gets his hands in the air to close up the passing lanes.He is also a good team leader and teammate.Cost being the only problem.IMHO he needs to be re-signed asap!!!

Dallas Cowboys Rule!!!

by NVCowboy4Life on Jul 22, 2011 2:41 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

100% Agreed.

But, hey, I like Roy and Marion, too.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 4:02 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I happen to like Marion and Roy myself

the biggest issue with them is that they are way overpaid for the role that they play…..

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 22, 2011 4:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's true

But people wrongly blame the players, rather than the contracts. And in Roy’s case, I think he’ll be a touchdown machine this year.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for your service and letting me sleep safely at night.

I have 2 kids in service,one overseas,and know that it has a cost.
I also like Roy and Marion and have caught a lot of flack over it.As you say it is the contracts,but what are they supposed to do,turn them down.“Thanks,but 50 mil is to much,I’ll take 10 mil so the fans will like me more.” Roy’s going to earn his money in the red-zone catching tds,he may even get in synch with Romo on that slant and be even more valuable to us. Marions day is past,sad to say.Keep those great posts coming.

Dallas Cowboys Rule!!!

by NVCowboy4Life on Jul 22, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

This article presents the clearest illustration of how Marcus Spears has been doing his job very well. Getting sacks is not the only job of a defensive lineman. Plus he’s a good team member, an RKG. Put him in 1 gap responsibility, he’ll get the QB.

"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic

With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Jul 22, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you teach? Because this reads as if you do; it's a must-read primer on

defense. This is one of the best, most helpful fan posts I’ve ever seen here, and that’s saying a lot.

by Fernie67 on Jul 22, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

I taught an English conversation class here in Japan

But I’m a 22 year old former Marine (infantry), and starting college this year. I’d say I’m a capable teacher, but I’m not in fact a teacher. I’m going to school for game programming, and I’d love to be a coach in my down time.

Thank you for the incredible compliment. I truly appreciate it.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 10:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's essentially the only talent needed here

Once I have my topic, I write an introduction (a sort of checklist of things to cover), then seek out information from various sources. Everyone does that.

I’m just good at chopping up the information, applying a liberal helping of Cowboys sauce, and serving it to all of you :)

Thanks again. I’ll do my best.

by CotySaxman on Jul 22, 2011 11:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Let me put it this way. I work on a college campus. You might be

surprised at how many people can’t do that or can’t do it very well. I saw what you said above; I’m thinking about what else I’d like you to write about!

by Fernie67 on Jul 22, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't happen to be RIT, would it?

If so, see you soon. (RIT = Rochester Institute of Technology)

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ohhh. I have family out that way.

I’m a New Yorker, but my aunt and her family live in Bastrop. If you ever need some art, Blue Donkey Studio is the place to go!

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 8:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's pottery, actually.

I haven’t been there in 7 years :(

I’m considering SMU for my graduate studies, though. Their Plano campus (The Guildhall) is very respected in the games industry. And, for the first time in my life, I would live near the Cowboys :)

by CotySaxman on Jul 25, 2011 9:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Another must-read

Another CotySaxman post, another bookmark. Great information made readily digestible. I’m not sold on “HydRob” as our defense’s name, though. The Big Robowskie deserves his defense to have a great name. Not that I can do any better. Anyone have any ideas on good names? The best I could come up with is “Guerrilla”.

by Lee Traylor on Jul 22, 2011 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Not trying to rain on your parade here, but…oh, my goodness. You are going to give up the entire left side of your defense like that? When they have a tight end and fullback on that side? Elam is going to slide over and play “center field?” Who the hell is in center field? Benard is going to rush, and leave the flat completely uncovered? Or leave Adams to cover two guys?

Elam ain’t going anywhere near “center field.” He may be tracking the ball carrier, yes, but if he is leaving his spot he is begging to get fired. No team leaves a corner on an island with nobody else on that side of the field, by design.

You did a good job of describing how they reacted after the handoff. But, that’s pretty much academic, isn’t it? Guys just go to the ball.

by chumdawg on Jul 23, 2011 3:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Hope you had a better camera angle

Because I saw him sliding before reacting. Everyone on that defense reacted incredibly slow. They were still backpedalling into zones when the linemen engulfed them.

With the range of a free safety, sliding your zone 10 yards to the center isn’t going to affect your angle drastically. The play went weakside, despite the te and fb. Perhaps this was something they gameplanned against. Can’t say.

I will say that, yes, they can leave the flat open. They had 3 DBs in man coverage and two more in zone. Why would they drop someone into the flats when they have a corner covering whoever starts a route?

I appreciate the criticism, but don’t act like the called defense was obvious, or there are rules about what you have to cover (especially with Rob Ryan). I welcome your thoughts on what was called.

by CotySaxman on Jul 23, 2011 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You said the defensive call afforded them the luxury of having a DB and S to play spy, basically. I’m saying that it looks that way because of the play call, yes, but that if the Ravens had done something out to their right then that DB and S would have no longer been anything close to spies.

As you say, maybe they gameplanned for it and knew it was coming. If so, good on them. But as an exercise, think to yourself how easy it would be to beat that defense if you knew it was coming.

by chumdawg on Jul 24, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

You qualified your last statement with

“If you knew it was coming.” In your previous argument, you spoke as if that defense would never come, from anyone. Therefore, I would argue that you wouldn’t predict that defense. It seems more likely that the Ravens are known for running a weak stretch run, which they seem to have success with.

What you say about them running to the right, I agree with. They were both (Elam and Adams) on the strong side of the formation. At the snap, they both immediately were sliding weak. This, in my opinion, indicates that they wanted to discourage the play strongside, and were anticipating a play to the weakside. Had the Ravens gone with a strong dive or Power O, we would have seen them slide toward the middle, and then react straight ahead.

An individual defensive player’s reads are somewhat beyond the scope of this article, and drawing every possibility with a moderately complex defense (say, 1 read per person), would lead to 2^11 possible scenarios, post-snap. I may, at some point, attempt to teach these concepts in a future article, but, for now, giving their assignments at the snap is sufficient.

My goal with that play was to apply the concepts introduced in the two prior sections, and illustrate how Ryan uses players in unorthodox ways. For example, you typically wouldn’t use a 2-4-5 Nickel defense against the Ravens in a 2 Wide set. Who fears Joe Flacco that much? (Personally, I prefer the 3-3-5, but that’s another matter entirely).

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess what I am getting at is to wonder why you think this is an unorthodox defense. You have a DB in the place of a LB, but that is pretty mild. Other than that, everyone does what they are supposed to, right? What if they run play-action to Rice and send both the FB and the TE out, while the Z is running a fly? Adams and Elam better both be on their horses…as they are designed to be…which is my point.

by chumdawg on Jul 24, 2011 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ryan = Unorthodox

I thought that was a foregone conclusion? One play won’t show that. If I were to outline hundreds of plays, perhaps it would become apparent that he doesn’t have many trends, but rather runs a very flexible, elaborate scheme.

In your example, the flats would be open. Dump off for moderate yardage.

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 3:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

As for the exercise...

If the Ravens run a Toss Right (at the “empty” left side of the defense), the pulling tackle leaves noone to block DE Adams, who likely stuffs the play. If the tackle stays home, then Ebram and DB Adams have a 2 on 1 against the fullback, assuming that the wide receiver has made his block—else Haden can join in pursuit. Toss—avg 1yd gain against that front.

If the Ravens run a Power O Right, with a pulling guard, their blockers are consumed by DE Adams, OLB Benard, and the unnamed ILB. Athyba Rubin is covering both A gaps, and so should attack the now wide-open AB (as the Guard is gone) gap. Gocong has cleanup duty behind Rubin. Elam and Ward are behind him. Power O—avg about 2yd gain.

A Lead Dive is the best course of action, as the B gap is unoccupied, allowing the Guard to move up to the second level and block a linebacker. Still, the extra DB, the two safeties, and the linebackers should stop that for no more than 5 yards. Lead Dive—avg about 3yd gain.

The assignments I drew up are for the passing game. The fact that they ran against a zone is why they were so successful. Ryan’s front is balanced, with 5 men on each side of the ball, and one over Center. There is no indication to the quarterback pre-snap that the strong side will be vacated after the ball is snapped. Even so, Haden is covering their strong side (Z) receiver, Elam will react to any route by the TE, and DB Adams will cover either back, should one of them run a route, with Ray Rice being the primary cover. There is no real threat, as the man-zone combination doesn’t leave much open.

by CotySaxman on Jul 24, 2011 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is only one rule:
or there are rules about what you have to cover (especially with Rob Ryan)

There are NO Rules!

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 23, 2011 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

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