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Learning From The Past: Free Agents The Cowboys Should Avoid

Totally gratuitous cheerleader pic of the week.

The NFL has just released its tentative schedule for 2011. Provided the players vote to ratify the CBA today, these are the key next steps for free agency.

Saturday, July 23: Starting at 2:00 PM ET, clubs may negotiate with, but not sign, undrafted rookie free agents, free agents, and other clubs’ UFAs, RFAs, and franchise players.

Sunday, July 24: Starting at 2:00 PM ET, clubs may begin to sign undrafted rookie free agents.

Wednesday, July 27: 2011 league year commences at 2:00 PM ET, provided NFLPA has ratified CBA. Free agency signing period begins. Clubs may sign free agents and other clubs’ unrestricted free agents.

And as the desperate scramble between teams for the best UDFAs and free agents begins, it's a good time keep in mind that desperation often leads to dumb decisions in the NFL.

Bill Barnwell, formerly with Football Outsiders and now with new ESPN offshoot Grantland.com, wrote an article over the weekend in which he looked at 18 years of NFL free-agency to come up with a list of free agents that teams should avoid. We look at that list after the break.

Star-divide

Barnwell identifies four archetypes that have proven to be particularly bad investments in free agency, and which teams should avoid at all cost, but probably won't.

1. The veteran running back

Barnwell argues that spending big money on a veteran running back has mostly been a fool's errand. This is a lesson the Cowboys have learned the painful way when they made Marion Barber one of the highest paid running backs in the league. Thankfully, the Cowboys are nowhere near repeating that mistake. This year.

2. The second/third wide receiver in an effective passing offense

Barnwell even calls this the "Alvin Harper Rule", arguing that the performance of this type of receivers is based more on the offense they're playing in than on their talent.

After three years as the starting receiver in Dallas across from Michael Irvin in the mid-'90s, the Buccaneers gave Alvin Harper a deal worth $2.65 million per season — just a smidge under the $2.9 million per season that Irvin was earning in the deal he had signed earlier that offseason. Harper caught a total of 65 passes and scored three touchdowns in two seasons before getting cut.

Care to take a guess which recent Cowboys signing was the second receiver in a (moderately) effective passing offense?

In 2007, the Lions were the 9th ranked passing offense in the league. The leading receiver on the team was Shaun McDonald and a rookie wide receiver called Calvin Johnson was working hard to relegate the previous year's number one wide receiver, one Roy E. Williams, into third place on the depth chart. The rest, as they say, is history.

The Cowboys may or may not cut Roy Williams this year. But if they do, there has been talk of bringing in a veteran wide receiver as the number 2/3 guy. Particularly with WR coach Jimmy Robinson joining from the Packers, there was the occasional muttering about getting somebody off the Packers roster to replace Williams. If the Alvin Harper Rule is anything to go by, that may not be the best option for the Cowboys. If anything, they should get a good receiver playing in a bad offense.

3. The veteran Steelers defender

In a similar rationale as in point number 2, the argument here is that Dick LeBeau's scheme benefits the players much more than vice versa. The Steelers franchized OLB LaMarr Woodley, their top free agent, but there are a couple of other defensive players due to become available. The Cowboys must resist the urge to splurge here.

4. The defensive end coming off a big year

The argument here is that as enticing as high sack numbers for defensive ends may be, for the most part they're likely to regress to the mean in 2011. Here's an example using the ten 3-4 DEs with the most sacks in 2009 and how their sack levels changed in 2010:

Player Team Sacks 2009 Sacks 2010 Change
Calais Campbell ARZ 9 6 -3
Darnell Dockett ARZ 7 4 -3
Randy Starks MIA 7 4 -3
Justin Smith SF 6 9 3
Wallace Gilberry KC 6 6 0
Cullen Jenkins GB 5 7 2
Vonnie Holliday DEN 5 3 -2
Darrell Reid DEN 5 - - -5
Brett Keisel PIT 3 3 0
Stephen Bowen DAL 3 2 -1
Total   56 44 -21%

Of the ten players on the list above, only two were able to improve on their sack total from the previous year, two were able to maintain their level and six saw a drop in their sack totals. Overall production from this top ten group dropped by 21%. For the six players who weren't able to at least maintain their sack total, production dropped from 36 to 19 sacks, a decline by a whopping 47%.

You can do an exercise like this for almost any stat and end up with similar results. It's called regression to the mean and it occurs in almost all data sets that compare one period to another. Cullen Jenkins had his statistically best year with seven sacks last year at the age of 29. It is unlikely that he will repeat that feat a year later in Dallas.

The key heading into free agency is to find players whom you can pay for potential instead of past performance (which they are unlikely to repeat).

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OCC is back in mid-deason form with that pic!!

Great article, too. You know, if you’re into that whole reading thing….

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 22, 2011 6:39 AM CDT reply actions  

*season*

it would be good if I were into the whole typing thing too…

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 22, 2011 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Typing is overrated.

Wisdom however, is the whole purpose. When you combine wisdom with humor, you got something going on there. Nobody around here does that better than you.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 22, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look, I know I said I'd give you ten if you said that

but all I have is a 5 and some DalaiLuke “Brothels of the Far East” trading cards. Is that going to work??

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 22, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm holding out for a membership

to DL’s Saturday night Saint prayer vigils.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That'll be tough. Those are "Invitation-Only-White-Robe-Velvet-Rope" affairs

Besides, it’s the “prayer vigil after-party” that really counts.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I read your interview with ChiaCrack

and was sad and a bit nostalgic when I read that, since moving to the front page, you could no longer post cheerleader pics!

Now I’m happy again; football is back, and Cool is posting cheerleader pics. Order has ben restores to the football universe…

by rabblerousr on Jul 22, 2011 7:13 AM CDT reply actions  

hahahahahaha

you were part of the interview too remember/

it was sad reading the cheerleader comment by OCC, I shed a tear actually

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

next week

when there is news, ChisCrack is going hard on the fanpost front

all of you fanpost writers caking it in right now, next week I want IN, a nickel bag sold in the fanpost section I want IN

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'll have to have his back.

Which means more fan gratuitous hottie shot posting. Allow me to demonstrate…

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 22, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

My wife.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 22, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then can I ask you a question

WHY ARE YOU STILL TALKING TO US?

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 22, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

One hand on the comput...uh.....&%&^$^*#E

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 22, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

baaaaa ahahahahahaha

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know...

I don’t know. But I would guess the Cowboys are a fan of hers.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 23, 2011 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

your sister you mean

I kid I kid

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is Gemma Atkinson.

British tv actress from " Hollyoas" tv soap.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 22, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hollyoaks .

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 22, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats what she said

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

more like Holysmokes !!..

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 22, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gonna have to watch more British TV.

(Hands over your mouth for effect) Channel 114 on your cable dial.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 23, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

that show " hollyoaks" specialises in busty babes,

for the life of me,i can’t remember the storylines !! :0

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

And awesome

IT just called me on the carpet…

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 22, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can see the left nip

now a bunch of dudes are gonna download this picture and magnify it

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 22, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

The key heading into free agency....

Is that we eventually get there……..all this BS with the owner and players not being able to decide how to divide almost 10 billion in revenues, and a judge not being able to rule them how to after 4 months just makes me wonder if they even deserve to generate that much.

Hard for me to believe that after all he negotiations they made after these two to three weeks and with D. Smith present, now the owners were fool enough to try and change some of the things negotiated and hard to believe as well the players changed their mind afterwards as well. They supposedly had a a deal in place and now they wont review nor sign and also throw more fire into it saying that the pressure to re-certify as a union is ilegal…….

by ManTab on Jul 22, 2011 7:14 AM CDT reply actions  

That's now how I read point 3

I thought he was saying more that if the Steelers let him go, trust that they know something. I have seen that in various other ways too, and not just about the Steelers. Basically saying that if a guy is a free agent and his team doesn’t make a sincere effort to retain him, it’s unlikely he will be a star for another team. If the team that knows him best doesn’t think he’s worth the big money, he’s probably not. Chris Canty is a good example here.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 22, 2011 7:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Well Said

That is how I read it as well.

I think it is a valid point and should probably be considered pretty steadfast as a rule.

by RE1D on Jul 22, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

stats can say anything

you want them to say. And if you only use cherry picked numbers then you deserve the criticism. Cleary what you do as regards the DE’s is to look at their entire career; you do not pick someone who just had a career year in year 6. If a guy has had 3,5,4,5,9 sacks the you throw out the 9. Very easy to do.

by burmafrd1944 on Jul 22, 2011 7:38 AM CDT reply actions  

True,

in your example, you can throw out the nine. Very easy to do.

Except that in free agency, you’ll end up paying for the nine. That’s the whole point.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 22, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

This is the hard thing to figure in FA

in the example from the original comment, is this guy a 5 sack guy, or in year 6 is he coming into his own and turning into a 9 sack guy?

In FA you will pay for the 9 sack guy and hope he is that, but more often than not, he returns to the mean of a 4.25 sack guy. Still, if the 4 sack guy still fills a need and there is potential for him to be a 9 sack guy (after all he’s proven he can do it), and there is no immediate way to fill this need from within, do you take a chance?

This is the question that keeps GM’s up at night.

To me Cullen Jenkins is one of the most interesting potential FA’s for the Cowboys. You will pay for his last year (statistically the best in his career), but age and past performance shows he’ll probably return to what he was before – an above average 3-4 DE. Is Jenkins an upgrade over the current DE’s under contract, certainly… will he be worth the contract he will get on the open market??? Guess that depends on who you ask. Personally I go back and forth.

"There are no traffic jams along the extra mile." ~ Roger Staubach

by TK19 on Jul 22, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

and not just FA, but even in evaluating your own players – are they on an upward tick, did they already max out, was what you thought you saw in games/practice and aberration or a trend?

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 22, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

And it's incredibly unfortunate that it works that way, but it really seems to.

I read this article a day or two ago, and really appreciated it. And as I was reading your take on it OCC, I remember thinking that DEs, particularly in the 3-4, shouldn’t be reduced to just sack totals, and I wondered about the rest of their performance, particularly the aspects that don’t show up in simple numbers, as we know that playing DE, in a 3-4 or 4-3, is about more than sacks.

But the sad truth of it is, many players’ abilities are reduced to that one magic number. “Oh man, Albert Haynesworth had x sacks. Let’s sign him so that we will add x sacks to our total and we will be good.” I can only hope that the RKG mentality leads to better FA acquisitions. We don’t need names on this roster, we have plenty of those.

by jazzbo251 on Jul 22, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

whats you thoughts on FAs like Franklin (DE-49ers & McDaniels? (DE-Miami)?

i love C,Jenkins but realisticly he isn’t coming to Dallas with the teams bidding on him. i think the smart move would be finding possibly 2 DEs along with Bowen being resigned. Spears was a solid players over the years but he just doesn’t offer enough at this point of his career. Hatcher didn’t show enough to get my vote for coming back, i would rather see Lissemore get his reps but mostly i think that money could goto a starter at DE that would be an upgrade. possibly send Igor to the Texans or another team for a late rd draft pick kinda like they did Crayton to get rid of the concract? would there be enough $ to sign a couple tier 2 FA DEs if they didn’t resign Spears or Hatcher & found someone to take Igor’s contract?
 which DEs do you see on the gameday roster? thanks & great article

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by DCNation73 on Jul 22, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like McDaniel

McDaniel is 26, had a good season as a role player in Miami and is looking for an opportunity to start, which he probably wouldn’t in Miami. Having said that, I don’t think he’s an improvement over Bowen, and is probably on the same level as hatcher, so I’d consider him if we aren’t able to re-sign our own guys.

I’m not a fan of signing Franklin, as I am not at all a proponent of the Ratliff-to-DE train of thought.

The 49ers do have a guy I really like though, and that’s Ray McDonald. Like MacDaniel he was more of a role player, but much more of his snaps came on passing downs, and like MacDaniel he is a role player looking to start. He is comparable to Bowen in that he is a pass rushing threat, and despite a limited role generated the second most QB pressures by a 3-4 DE last year.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 22, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really like Spears

For the right price, my preference would be to keep him. I think he adds a lot to the defense and is greatly underappreciated.

by jazzbo251 on Jul 22, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the fun begins, HOPEFULLY!

After this crazy lockout with little news, things are about to explode. Hopefully the players ratify the CBA today and the schedule above actually happens.. This is sure to be a CRAZY week of FA, UFA and UDFA signings.. Im really pumped to get some actual football action.. This next week will keep sportwriters up nights on end and I cant wait to read everything about my Boys!!

by AmericasTeamm on Jul 22, 2011 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

FA difference makers are rare

Most FAs that contribute to a team’s success do so by making a weak position at least average to good. Rarely will a FA become a true impact player because if they were that good, their original team wouldn’t have let them go to begin with.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 22, 2011 8:29 AM CDT reply actions  

But there is a difference between the "big name" FA and the rest.

Most teams sign a number of free agents, but many of them don’t make headlines. It’s those players that I think you’re speaking about Terry, and it’s those players that can make a more significant, but more subtle, difference on a team.

by jazzbo251 on Jul 22, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's why I don't think that NA is the right step for the team

Less names, more RKGs.

Players who play focused and hard and do not feel entitled to anything. I’m not saying that NA is that type of guy. I’m talking more about money. If we’re going to spend money, I’d rather it be an Eric Weddle, and then fill in the roster with a young CB, DE, G, OLB, etc.

by jazzbo251 on Jul 22, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

i kinda agree with that

were not a team 1 piece away so signing a Nnamhdi or C.Jenkins wouldn’t help but i would like to see an upgrade to both safety positions. Pool/Manning, Weddle/Elam, Huff/Manning or Elam. Elam & Manning should cost less then Sensa & i think both are better for this defense. maybe save enough signing a DE, SS & spend some loot on Weddle. Weddle has range, high IQ & is a sure tackler.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!

by DCNation73 on Jul 22, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bad idea

Peyton Manning would make a lousy safety.

by jazzbo251 on Jul 22, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the smart move is guys like Sensabaugh, Kosier, Brooking

We got Sensabaugh for a low price because he was unproven and had some questions. He was young and athletic, and we didn’t risk much on him, while he got the opportunity to prove himself for a bigger payday down the road.

Brooking was a veteran on the decline that was available for a low price, and therefore low risk, but still had a little left.

Kosier was a rare case of a solid young vet available at a reasonable price.

Not as smart, guys like Leonard Davis that have a huge price tag.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 22, 2011 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

At least Davis was serviceable

and didn’t have any off-field issues. Thank god we don’t make stupid FA signings like Washington.

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by Antonio S on Jul 22, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think Sensabaugh is good but the money he wants is crazy.

i wouldn’t pay him off last years numbers but some team will & i just hope its not Dallas. Players like Manning from the Bears or Elam from Cleveland could be cheaper & a better fit for this defense.
 Sensa also blamed the whole defense but himself in an interview which was kinda stupid. this was a Wade guy & i don’t see him being a player RR wants to work with. the same goes with Igor & Brooking bc i don’t see these guys fitting in the scheme of things. after last season i cant see where Brooking fits in, he’s slow & doesn’t offer anything in coverage. surely Lee can step up & take that spot with a whole offseason to get healthy.
 i agree Davis needs needs to go even if it doesn’t clear a lot of money & possibly get Holland or the best available FA for the money. i’ve heard theres some loop holes or rewards to the cap by resigning your own players & if thats true then Free, Bowen, Kosier wouldn’t drain the pot. i also look for Romo, Ware, Austin to redo there deals to free up a ton & all the money paid last season up front comes off the books. i think Dallas will be in better position then people think once they learn the new rules.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!

by DCNation73 on Jul 22, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Although, I wouldn’t be surprised if Brooking hangs around in a very limited role. He seems to be understanding of where his talents are and the decline he is facing in the latter years of his career. He could be a good mentor for our younger talent and help teach them the position and provide depth if needed.

by RE1D on Jul 22, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

But, when we signed Sensabaugh initially, it was at a bargain price. Same with Kosier and Brooking.

I don’t think they are worth huge money now, though. Instead, we should try to find other guys that are either young and not yet commanding huge money, or older and not able to get huge money, but still have something to offer.

I agree that Davis was serviceable like Antonio said, but he was also the highest paid player at his position, and we only got 1 star year out of him.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 24, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

if I could release Roy Williams for Santonio Holmes I would do that in a heartbeat, heck I think I would take James Jones over Roy

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 9:13 AM CDT reply actions  

yes sir

I damn sure would take James Jones over Roy. I would Nelson or anybody from GB too. I bet Robinson has mentioned it to Garrett several times

by dcsince77 on Jul 22, 2011 9:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

me too

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think James Jones has the best hands of the 3 but +100 on either over Roy.

i havent looked at the stats but i rem the announcer last season talking about Jacoby’s dropped passed hurting him in FA. Robinson also was really high on James as a player, teammate & dedication to the game but he was also his draft pick if i rem correct.

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by DCNation73 on Jul 22, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am actually pretty sure that James Jones struggled with the drops as well.

The one I remember the easiest was the beautiful bomb he dropped against the Eagles in the wild-card game.

Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.

by Creasy729 on Jul 22, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roy has butterfingers too

I would still take either one of the Joneses because they are dangerous when they have the ball in their hands and they are upgrades over this overpaid bum. I just want this guy gone….

by dcsince77 on Jul 22, 2011 1:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't Jones drop a potential TD in the Super Bowl too?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81e2cb38/James-Jones-drop

Yep.

I mean however much of a mirage Harper was I don’t recall him dropping anything in the playoffs. That kind of reeks that Jones’ drops were more or less the difference between the Packers winning in two-possession walks over the Eagles and Steelers instead of both those teams being able to have the ball at the end for a chance at the win. For whatever missing ingredient one thinks he might add (doesn’t this team have enough damn ingedients?) who says his drops don’t blow a few games for the Cowboys the way Woy’s untimely fumbles have?

Still he adds something Woy sure doesn’t bring to the table. It really depends what the market for him is. And how receptive a 27-year old guy is to being the 3rd banana to Miles and Dez when he could very well start elsewhere.

To me, it seems like there will be other teams more desperate for receivers that will throw more at (James) Jones than the Cowboys reasonably ever would.

Moot discussion all the way around but if it’s not, you don’t give him anything like he’ll probably be expecting to finagle out of some receiver-starved bunch like the ’Skins or Bears.

by MadMick on Jul 22, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easy to get caught up in

the potential of James Jones, but if you go back to OCC’s rule 2.

If you check the tape on Jones, he had some HUGE drops for the Pack last season, which I keep hearing accounts for Green Bay not really trying to keep him around.

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Tom Landry

by Pnut Gallery on Jul 22, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Definitely one too many.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Jul 22, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jerry Jones Rule

makes us only 12 million over the cap no?

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by Archie Barberio on Jul 22, 2011 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

i've heard 18.9 with the current roster but who really knows all the rules yet.

i have a feeling after Dallas releases, cuts & resigns Free, Bowen, Kosier there going to be in better shape then we thought.
 This deal is at the top of Jerrys acomplishments in the NFL.

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by DCNation73 on Jul 22, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'd like to add two other provisions

the patriot/belicheck rule: if belicheck is willing to let him walk then thats a red flag already

and the raider rule: if al davis is throwing money at him then let him have it. or if the guy showed any promise in oakland before he becomes a free agent then sign him

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 22, 2011 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Jacoby Ford may be one of those guys that show promise

unfortunately Al is unlikely to ever let him be pried loose, as he is a WR with extreme speed, and has hands to go with it.

by mdlusk on Jul 23, 2011 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm always excited about FA.

I love to see the UDFA signings and, when they make the club and pan out ala Miles, Tony, etc., I have this feeling of elation that the Boys were able to essentially get a star for free. It’s exciting as well when we sign a FA especially if the player fills a real need, but often the team overpays for mediocrity. A great article, which I would never have time to research, would be to assess the the relative merits of FA signing over a period of years. I would venture to guess that there are more busts than booms. Great FA signings like Drew Brees or Deon in his prime are rare. The Roy Williamses, also Snyder’s track record of FA signings with the Skins, seem to be more the rule rather than the exception. Remember, for the most part, FAs are FAs because their original team no longer wants them. That to me is very telling. Nnamdi would still be wanted by Al Davis, but his contract with the Raiders would be prohibitive with the other contracts Al has negotiated, so Nnamdi priced himself out of contention with the Raiders. That being said, a 30 year old CB, who’s looking for a huge payday, well, man I don’t know. I’d rather JJ just find the guys that JG and RR need on an interim basis to field a team with no glaring holes. Then get the permanent replacements through the draft.

by pfloyd1 on Jul 22, 2011 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Well said
I’d rather JJ just find the guys that JG and RR need on an interim basis to field a team with no glaring holes. Then get the permanent replacements through the draft.

I hope this is true. Let all the other teams fight over the “Top Tier Guys” and start grabbing the 2nd Tier guys that should be reasonable on price and help fill holes. These guys would also probably take deals that don’t have huge long term ramifications, so that as we replace them through the Draft, we aren’t holding on to massive contracts.

by RE1D on Jul 22, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jerry's problem is he is always trying to sign a "wow" player.

Dallas has enough wow players. You don’t need more than 2. See Pittsburgh. Jerry needs to sign solid ,team kind of guys. It’s not like it’s been said before but Jerry needs to refrain from thinking free agency is the way to build a team. If he would improve his drafting he would’nt be in such dire need.

Jerry can't get it done ! At least I have LSU !

by football mensa on Jul 22, 2011 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

i probably like the UDFA signings more then the FA.

the game revolves around the bottom end of the roster & rarely are big name FAs ever worth the money (last season Peppers was a legit target). i really don’t see one player in this FA thats a must have including Nnamdi.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!

by DCNation73 on Jul 22, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree completely

I look at the other teams across the league and marvel at teams that are successfully starting late round picks in their first year. It seems like even our second rounders aren’t considered automatic starters.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 22, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scarlet, nice comment, agree completely

OCC I don’t get it either, I wonder if it’s our coaching philosophy or are these draftees just not ready. In the case of Lee, Carter, AOA, etc., injury was a factor, but it seems our coaches never through rookies to the wolves and let them learn in real situations. This has to delay development to an extent. If they’re not ready, they’re not ready, but you pointed out that other teams have success, so maybe our coaches should re-evaluate their position.

by pfloyd1 on Jul 22, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well Said ScarletO

I think it was our coaching philosophy, or lack thereof (over the past few years)

Beginning with the Parcell’s Era:
Bill P. brought in veterans to help change the culture of the Cowboys and to help guide the younger, quality players and newly drafted ones into real football players. Sure, many of those guys were over the hill and toward the end of their careers, but in hindsight, it did change the culture (thank God).

Wade Phillips:
IMHO, did not have the personality style to be a confident HC. He seemed to be too much of a “yes man” and allowed JJ to fill the coaching staff with JJ’s guys. To me, this helped contribute to the disconnect between players and coaches. We all know that Wad’s Cupcake Style of practicing didn’t help to foster much in the way of progress out of our young guys.

Phillips tenure reminded me of the Campo Era, when our coaching wasn’t all that good. The HC was more of a puppet of JJ’s than a real Football Coach. The progression of talent suffered as a result. (I know we still had some success with young guys, but I think that should be credited to the individual players and a few good coaches on staff, rather than crediting the weak HC.

Jason Garrett:
He is definitely saying all the right things and appears to have a true plan in place. I attribute his mentality (if only partially) to seeing how a successful football team practices and prepares each day. Garrett also seems to have JJ’s trust and is allowed more freedom to do things the way JG sees fit.
Since JG doesn’t have to worry about JJ looking over his shoulder and second guessing every move, I think it will continue to help the culture of our beloved organization and as a result, help improve our team and foster quality play and growth from our younger players.

by RE1D on Jul 22, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec

Totally agreed.

I know Lee was hurt most of the year, but at a glance, it seems like he got more playing time under Garrett. Garrett also wasn’t afraid to play McCann, who had some rookie mistakes, along with some nice plays. I have great hope that Garrett will be more willing to play young players, like AOA, Butler, and others.

by jazzbo251 on Jul 22, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, noticed your picture.

Has Captain America come out in Germany yet? Any good?

by ScarletO on Jul 22, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha. No, it comes out mid-August.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 23, 2011 4:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome analysis O

Thanks.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forgot.

Restructuring Witten and Ratliff would add another $2.5 million to this season’s salary cap. So add $2.5 million to the numbers above and then subtract it for Kyle Kosier.

by ScarletO on Jul 23, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fanpost

Seriously. This whole article, along with your salary cap comment will sink into oblivion shortly. Why not put it up as a fanpost where it’ll have a longer shelf life?

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 23, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bigham?

Is that you???

ha ha. Yes, it’s worthy of a longer shelf life…

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

this should be a Fan post…

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 23, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

sometimes i see a long comment and think ,oh oh .

but this is superb and worthy of a fanpost in it’s own right.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kind of plays into what you were saying earlier

building through the draft. If your only FA signing is Elam, that means you have to get a starting safety out of Church, Ansah, McCray, Sendejo, or McDaniel. (If we can get him in here) One place we differ is ILB. I’d think it more likely the Cowboys keep Brady James than Brooking, however that does skim 1.3 million off your total savings for this season. Trading someone like Choice saves you an additional 555K. Maybe you can get a 5th for him, maybe a 4th. One thing I was looking at was Andre Gurode. He’s going to count 5.5 million against the cap this season. Costa was looking pretty good last season, but it does leave you kind of thin. Another one is Alex Barron. He counted 2.73 mil last year, but won’t be on the roster this season. I’m guessing you weren’t counting him anyway. Of your top 11 salaries on this team, I could see 5 or 6 being released. While some fans on here may consider this competitive suicide, this team has the highest salary in the NFL, and simply cannot sustain such numbers. It’s a sad reality. I think we are about to see wholesale changes.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 23, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's so sad about wholesale changes ?

This teams needs an infusion of youth and talent. The drafts have been below mediocre. However at some point you have to get rid of the overpriced dead weight on this team. Jerry waits too long to cut players.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jul 24, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Linebacker situation is scary

It would be great for the salary cap to release James and Brooking, but we don’t have the guys to take their place. Lee may be ready to be a full time starter by the end of the season, but not at this point. Other than him, we have no other backups capable of being a quality ILB for this team. So now you have to go get free agents to replace the guys you cut.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 24, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

They don't even try to draft guys that can play immediately.

Look at the last few drafts. Other than the first rounders, no one is really a legit ready to play guy.

2011: Smith – yes, Carter – no, Murray – backup, Arkin – backup, Thomas – backup, Harris – backup if he makes the team, Chapas – backup if he makes the team, Nagy – backup if he makes the team

2010: Bryant – yes, Lee – no, AOA – no, Young – no, Wall – no, Lissemore – no

2009: – all backups if they make the team

2008: Jones – backup, Jenkins – yes, Bennett – backup, Choice – backup, Scandrick – yes, Walden – backup

2007: Spencer – yes, Marten – no, Stanback – project, Free – no, Folk – kicker, Anderson – yes, Brown – backup, Ball – backup.

I’m not talking about how they ended up, I’m saying that the second they were drafted, are they a legitimate shot to be a starter or significantly contribute on day one? Almost every guy drafted, the answer is no, or you knew when he was drafted that he was intended to be a backup. That includes this year.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 24, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't you say this about almost all teams drafts?

Really they expect to get immediate starters out of how many players? 1 or 2?
A lot of those guys you named were drafted as immediate backups, right. However they are expected to learn and hopefully step into a starting role within 1-3 years.

Of course if you drafted for need and not BPA as they claim to have done you would have more immediate starters. Added to the fact that the Boys have shown a reluctance to play young guys.

by Rena on Jul 24, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it is

I am terrified for the future of this team if most of these guys are legitimately expected to compete for a starting spot at any point in their career. I don’t follow other teams’drafts like I do ours, but I don’t think other organizations draft obvious career backups quite like we do. This team is way too top heavy. We seem to get more solid players from UDFA than we do from rounds 2-7.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 26, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree in principle

But I hope we don’t overstate the build-through-the-draft mantra. Signing one or two key free agents (not necessarily one or two a year, mind you) has been a great way for teams to get over the hump (see: New England Patriots).

by Admiral Dallas on Jul 22, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure, that is a viable method

However, it can work against teams.
It has worked against us, especially when we sign FAs to huge, long term deals.

I hope we are cautious in FA this year and grab a couple guys that can fill needs for only a short time. If we grab someone at a reasonable price and follow it by drafting replacements, we should be able to easily transition from the veteran stop gap FAs and allow our drafted players a chance to learn and step in when they are ready.

by RE1D on Jul 22, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well stated, Scarlet.

Thanks for having the guts to put it out there. The NFL is a young man’s game. The sooner they become experienced players, the sooner they become stars. You can get away with playing your young players if you have a nice mix of veterans. However, the term veteran does not mean age, but a state of experience. I have always wanted to see the young guys on the field sooner than they got there. Hey, the 92 Cowboys were the youngest team in the NFL. We have accumulated a great deal of promising young players in the last couple of years. We might even be better if we actually played them. I’m hoping Garrett see’s it this way, and we’re going to get our wish this year…especially with the cap hell this team is in.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 22, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice addition
We have accumulated a great deal of promising young players in the last couple of years. We might even be better if we actually played them. I’m hoping Garrett see’s it this way, and we’re going to get our wish this year…especially with the cap hell this team is in.

I am hoping the same thing.

by RE1D on Jul 22, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have to admit, I was expecting more dissention.

Glad there was not, however, as I really believe that building through the draft with minimal free agent signings is the best way to build a champion. Jimmy Johnson told Jason Garrett duing their weekend meeting that he believed that one of the main reasons his Cowboys teams finished strong was because Jimmy would play young players throughout the season. As the season progressed, the youngsters becomae better players, and their youth permitted them to be a little fresher than the older veterans.

In addition, Jimmy also shared with Jason, that competition is necessary at every position except quarterback. Nate Newton has noted many times that Jimmy would tell him that he would keep playing Newton until another player could give him more: Nate said that it helped him push himself to be his best.

Jason has repeated that mantra several times. I would like to see Dallas sign McDaniel as a rookie free agent. He was supposed to be a late first round selection, but some character concerns from three years ago dropped him to a prospective third round pick. Now he is an undrafted rookie free agent.

Once McDaniel is signed, I would hold an open competition between Sendejo, Owusu-Ansah, McDaniel, Church, and McCray for the two safety spots. I would also permit Scandrick, Jenkins, McCann, Thomas, and Newman compete for the three cornerback positions.

I would also be fine with Nagy, Costa, Young, and Arkin competing for the guard spot(s). Let competition bring the cream to the top: Jimmy would do that constantly. It worked before and has worked since (for other teams).

I doubt that Dallas can make a Super Bowl run with a couple of free agent signings. The free agents will eat up valuable cap space, and drop the Cowboys in the 2012 NFL draft. By playing the youngsters, the Cowboys have a chance to be better in 2012.

And who knows, if the youngsters improve enough, maybe the Cowboys will get lucky and bring home their sixth Lombardi…

by ScarletO on Jul 22, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I agree with you, including on signing McDaniel.

I followed his career at Clemson and that was his one transgression. He’s been a model citizen since then. It mystifies me why he went undrafted. He’d be a great prospect for SS.

by mdlusk on Jul 23, 2011 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a great post O

The thing that I would add is that bringing them along this way alos demands consistent coaching staffs and a strong franchise culture. If you’re the Raiders or Skins and change HC every other season, you’re constantly acquiring the WKG for your system. And strong coaching and a franchise culture allow the veterans to bring the draftees in and get them ready. I think under Garrett Dallas may be ready for this kind of approach.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

dunk,we have had this conversation before.

my concern then and now is Jerry prepared to let things develop before him?.
he seems like a quick fix owner ( despite 15 years) ,always ready for the next " great plan".
let Garrett have his head and i think " glory days" beckon. imo :)

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, since the RW debacle, he seems to be

taking a slightly more conservative approach to FA. We’ll see if that continues…

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jerry's patience or lack whereof will make or break this team.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

My hope is that it's not really about Jerry

but the rising influence of Stephen, who seems a little less of a fan and more of a business man. Part of Jerry’s problem is that he’s a huge fan and sometimes that gets in the way of business.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

dunk ,you do realise that Jerry has to die or become incoherent.

for Stephen to take control?.
just judge the CBA negotiations as far as Jerry giving up control.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well the negotiators from teams were all actual owners

but I do think Stephen is more involved, and my guess is that there is a deliberate succession plan in place – slowly working him into all facets and into the public eye.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think we hope.

that Stephen is more involved but " daddy" still runs the show.
let’s hpoe together that Jerry is willing to let his son take more control.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
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by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

hope!!

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say a little prayer for it every night

right after I ask the Eagles are moved to Los Angeles and Dan Snyder gets a heart, just like Tin Man….

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was a lot of churn the first couple of years under Jimmy.

He was the monster of Plan B free agents. However, it wasn’t until he had all his young players on the field that the Cowboys became an elite team. There was one huge veteran acquisition to that team that made a difference. Charles Haley. Once Jimmy had all his young players in place, he was able to acquire the most disruptive defensive force in the game, and that put the team over the top. However, it’s almost unheard of to pick up a player like Charles Haley in the prime of his career, so unless you have an opportunity to trade for or sign someone of his talent, go with the players you envision as the future of your team.

Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?

by White Wolf on Jul 23, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

the only reason we got Haley

was that The 49’ers thought that Haley would destroy our locker room(think TO 2009)

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 23, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same reason Dallas got TO

And it could have worked.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 23, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

49 ers did the same thing in 89 ,

they brought in Matt Millen and Jim Burt ( giant that destroyed montanas back) .
teams did that in those days.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 23, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you SarletO,

we have to think longterm with our team,i have posted before on the subject.
my concern was-is whether Jerry has the patience to allow Garrett to build through the draft?.
great post Rec’d.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Jul 22, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice article OCC

Good read.

If something in sports is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, you've lived a pretty good life.

by Qpalzm94 on Jul 22, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

It's amazing Arizona got that production

from their DEs in 2009! Their regression, in my view, has more to do with Kurt Warner retiring, and it impacting the whole team.

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by AustonianAggie on Jul 24, 2011 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

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