Add Marion Barber To The List Of Cowboys' Cuts
by rabblerousr on Jul 26, 2011 12:56 PM CDT
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PrintAdam Schefter recently tweeted that Dallas has released running back Marion Barber. This should come as no surprise; Barber's battered body has given the Cowboys declining productivity ever since he signed his big second contract in 2007; the acquisition of running back Demarco Murray in the most recent draft essentially sealed the deal.
Nevertheless, Barber gave the Cowboys some outstanding years; from 2005-2007, he was an absolute beast, who kept opposing players and rival defensive coordinators up nights. Although he never rushed for more than 1,000 yards, he more than made up for it with punishing hits, soft hands, pass blocking prowess and ability to close out games.
Marion Barber stood to make $4.250 million as a base salary in 2011 and stood to get an extra $0.5 million roster bonus. His signing bonus was prorated at $2 million per year, so he would have counted a total of $6.750 against the cap in 2011. Earlier reports indicated that the cap savings of releasing Barber after June 1st would amount to to $4 million, but the final amount will become clearer as we better understand the details of the CBA over the coming days.
But Barber is not just a casualty of the salary cap. By the end of 2010, after starting in 10 games but only rushing for 374 yards and four TDs at a very disappointing 3.3 yards per attempt, he had clearly fallen out of favor with Jason Garrett, and when the Cowboys drafted DeMarco Murray it became clear they were ready to move on from Marion Barber.
Unlike the dismissal of Leonard Davis, Barber's release clarifies things at this position. All offseason, the media and Cowboys fans have been speculating about what the Dallas running attack will look like. Now, it seems pretty certain that Felix Jones will be backed up by Murray. The unknown in all of this is: what role will Tashard Choice have in the offense?
Stay tuned...
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I wouldn't have guessed
that even during those years he never surpassed the 1K yard mark.
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. --
Tom Landry
"A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing." —Emo Philips
by Pnut Gallery on Jul 26, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like Colombo is good. TNew and his 8M need to be cut and then they're under the cap
… and can focus on the fun stuff!
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
can't cut tnew unless they know they have a replacement lined up
I doubt he gets cut
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Agreed
Can’t let him go unless they have someone in mind to replace him. The Nnamdi talk is just wishful thinking
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed. I don't get this sentiment.
Yes, he’s overpaid, but he’s still our best corner. I want the best chance to win and could care less what Jerry has to spend.
Jonathan Joseph?
What’s the word on him? Been missing lately so I haven’t been reading up
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
Available, I'd rather Dal bring him in or even Taylor, than Newman.
He’s only our best corner because Mike Jenkins had one of the biggest single season regressions in NFL History. Furthermore, TNew is the best corner on the team for 2/5 of the season as he’s injured the other 3/5ths.
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
loving it.
Now get free signed
Envy Us!!
by regaberto on Jul 26, 2011 1:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Ciao......
This is a business move Marion nothing personal…….it was good while it lasted and you got paid for your past performance…..
Wish him well
He was so great to watch at one time that I hope wherever he lands that he returns to form, no matter who with.
ugh, not NYG who happen to be the most logical landing place.
I mean, you know he’ll singlehandedly beat DAL at least once.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
If MBIII is our main concern against the Giants
Then I think we’ll be okay.
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. --
Tom Landry
"A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing." —Emo Philips
by Pnut Gallery on Jul 26, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Not main concern, and I shouldn't have said, "singlehandedly"
but you’re telling me you can’t see him break a little 20-yarder after flattening Jenkins (if Mike doesn’t run out of bounds in the first place), to win a game?
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Even NYG
That is how much I loved watching him in the day, and I really hate NYG.
by Kevin Templar on Jul 26, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Sad but true
This needed to happen. I wish him well also. I’ll never forget his beastly years. Enjoyed every minute of it.
Also
Never bought into the team concept with JG.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
was it all his eroding skills?
Or, could some (or a lot) of it had to do with a porous offensive line? Probably a combination of the two. Hopefully we are addressing both issues.
Adios to the Marion the Barbarian. One of my favorites.
He didn't give them a chance to block the last few years
he just bounced to the outside. He completely changed his running style after his injuries
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
It was annoying that he bounced outside all the time
but how much of that was due to the o-line being swallowed whole at the point of attack?
On the short yardage plays
our line didn’t get much push, but they weren’t getting killed either. Barber just didn’t have any burst. You’re point is well taken though, we need to run block better.
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
His running style requires some initial space to build up speed, something our o-line has not been providing in recent years.
How much cap do we have?
I hear that with no Barber and Davis we saved $10 Mil. How much was Kris Brown worth?
even more than that
seems like $12M or $13M saved between Barber and Bigg based on how the new CBA works
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Apparently....
They’re saying we SAVE 5.1 cutting Roy. So we are nearly @ the cap.
by Kevin Templar on Jul 26, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Colombo will give us some savings as well
even if he stays and his contract is restructured.
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for all the good years Marion!
while I’m glad to see him go at this point and don’t understand why they even kept using him as much as they did, I won’t forget all the great plays he made for us, and his attitude firing up the team after a particularly bruising run.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Why is it assumed that Murray will be the number two? He's never taken a snap
in the NFL and hasn’t proven he can run one play successfully in our system. Our system he still hasn’t even learned.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
Murray is a stud
I loved watching him at OU. Great receiver out of the backfield.
by soonercowboy14 on Jul 26, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the assumption is due to him being handpicked by JG
and we all know Choice has been in JG’s doghouse.
Because Choice
Is the square peg in our round running back corps. He can’t do what Garrett wants him to do. He’s less versatile than MBIII. Look up my fanpost on it if you like.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Appreciate the backup.
That post wasn’t too well received. Unpopular sentiment, despite it’s truth.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 2:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, man
There was a trophy? I’ve got to update my shipping info!
I noticed the mention in the award, though, but in comparison to my subsequent posts, the reaction was lukewarm, at best.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 2:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure if Choice will survive training camp...
3rd rb has got to be able to play special teams and most certainly has to be able to pick up linebackers…not Choice’s forte.
The Red Headed RumbleFish Runnin Things
Murray is a very good RB.
If you haven’t seen much of him you’ve got a pleasant surprise coming.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Yes he was very good in College. So Lendale White...(obviously an extreme comparison)
but my point remains the same, until he plays at least in Practice, to knight him as splitting time with felix seems very premature.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
*was
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It's just a projection, obviously nothing is set in stone.
Everyone knows running back is one of the easiest positions to have an immediate impact as a rookie though.
I feel pretty confident that this will be the case.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Cowboys to release Roy Williams
http://twitter.com/#!/ESPNDallas
ESPNDallas ESPNDallas
Multiple sources: Cowboys to release Roy Williams. Story to come.
4 minutes ago
Nobody should be surprised by this.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Well it's somewhat surprising
a lot of reports saying that if he was cut, the Cowboys would lose money.
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Mostly because we don't fully understand the new CBA...
Otherwise he’s highly overpaid for a third receiver. Yes he is the third best. But Barber is also still our best short yardage back. We were paying him as a feature back which is the problem.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Football wise
everyone expected him to be gone…it was the money part that made it surprising.
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why people shouldn't "report" on things they don't fully understand.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Or someone different is making personel decisions. This doesn't feel like Jerry
AT ALL!
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
No, Garrett does (I'm still skeptical of this).
Nobody will be on the Cowboys that he doesn’t want here, it’s in his contract.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Obviously at the end of the day it's Jerry's team
but I believe he’s admitting that someone else (Garret/Jones Jr.) may do a better job than he has.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You'll never hear him say it publicly though.
But hey, if it makes him feel better to keep claiming all the control fine with me. Smart Cowboys fans can tell the difference, and change in that department is welcome.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
by TXHC on Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The issue is when the media starts giving credit to someone else
THAT’S when that “Silver Fox”, Turns into a “Jackass”. And that’s when I wish I could pin the tail on that Donkey.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No need, he always pins it on himself.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
+1
You’re using up all of my Plus One’s… Slow down.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Story was he would hurt the cap.
Even released. It’s pretty surprising.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
Yeah but a lot of that is just idle speculation.
Jerry isn’t going to do anything that puts the cap in jeopardy, especially when they’re already almost $15 million over.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Right
So we obviously misunderstood the new CBA. Still a surprise to us though.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
I kept telling everybody to chill out until we see what the new CBA is actually going to look at.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
That is a very healthy attitude my friend
Nobody knows what’s going on right now outside of he front offices. In time, we’ll understand.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 26, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
Everybody just sit back and watch.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
He said we can grab any player we want.
So I’m not sure how with this cap situation. I agree with you.
Guys
It also works under the OLD CBA. The problem is the reporters were only talking about the cap consequences if Williams were to be release pre-“June 1st.” However, they never really bothered to consider other ways that Williams could be cut or restructured.
That’s partly why I wrote the article I wrote.
Well, that and I was curious myself about the consequences of cutting these players.
Is it possible
the new CBA gives a few “free” cuts? Let Roy go and no big penalty? Does Jerry mean AA will be signed ?
wow I'm surprised because I thought this would cost more than it would save
and we don’t really have a lot of depth behind him…. but maybe the CBA can make it work… certainly won’t be crying to see him go
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Thanksgiving fumble
…final straw.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
You just had to make me remember that
I don’t know if I’ve ever hated a Cowboy player more than him.
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes the news, THAT MUCH sweeter, doesn't it? : )
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
we never have to deal with his stupid ass smile again!
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jul 26, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
and his backhanded, moronic, sarcastic
post game pressers.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
A flurry of WTF's.....
Came out my mouth. I dang near spit out my turkey!!!!!
The Red Headed RumbleFish Runnin Things
I was feeling good today
Until that reminder…..ugh
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
by BishopWest on Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll give Jerry credit on one thing.
He knows how to manipulate the money. If he says he can get the Cowboys so far under the cap that they can sign anyone they want I believe him. I might not agree with who they want, however, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
The exciting thing is that the players seem to be who Garrett wants.
If Jerry is handling the money but the RHG is handling the grocery list, this could be awesome.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
You had to know it was coming after last season.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Still love to see Jerry follow through; even if it takes getting bit for some money.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it wasn't Jerry?
Which would be a huge sign of progress.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT JERRY!!!
This reeks of common sense and direction.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Has to be a Garrett move.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I say this once a month
When something bad happens…it’s Jerry
When something good happens…it’s in spite of Jerry
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
-1
When something bad happens…it’s Jerry
When something good happens…it’s Jerry
by Kevin Templar on Jul 26, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol, I should've clarified
I was being sarcastic, as in that what everyone says.
I don’t believe that.
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
The issue is that more bad than good has taken place as Jerry has assumed more control.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Roy
Carry your own pads on the way out
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
Roy E Williams bites the dust as well
Hellelujah!!!
Welp
Congrats to Hurd, Holley, and Ogletree.
Now earn it.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
Training Camp and Preseason
Will be the most interesting in years with the way we are cleaning house, there will be alot of new faces next year and I am excited!
Wanna know the next cut?
Follow the draft picks…
Bradie James
Isn’t going anywhere. So I don’t know what you’re insinuating.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Aside from the verbal guarantee by JJ?
He’s a definite RKG/Leader, and still valuable as a 2 down linebacker.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
James is to important to cut.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Carter
Isn’t ready to practice yet. Also, it has been said that his weakness is his intelligence…He is not ready for a significant share of snaps, which he would need to take if one of the starters was cut.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Now just sign free
And this wil be a great start to 2011 superbowl run
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
Doubt it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
You really want Alan Ball on this roster?
We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.
As a backup sure.
Only way he gets cut is if he gets beaten out of a roster spot in camp.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
His versatility will be the only thing that saves him if he isn't cut.
I’m not too concerned either way.
What versatility?
He flat out stinks at safety. Gave up a league leading 7 TDs last season at FS. So, his only prayer of making this team is at CB.
We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.
He never should have been given a shot to start.
That’s not his fault.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
wish the Lions would take him :)
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
Go Cowboys!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jul 26, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Me either.
He’s a backup DB at best. If he gets beaten out he gets beaten out.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
He does look like someone who will get a chance in camp.
Whatever happens depends on how he performs.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
I'm gonna go ahead and say it
Bennett…gtfo
THIS.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
Remind me how John Phillips is a proven star again.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Most back up TEs aren't proven stars. And don't need to be.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Which is why best blocking TE in the league
Is a hell of a back up.
We don’t need the demo version of Jason Witten.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Remind me
how Bennett is a proven star again
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Best blocking tight end in the league.
John Phillips? Most overvalued player on IR.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
best blocking TE
is Witten. And I doubt that JG see RKG stuff in Bennett
Excellent blockers,
At skill positions, are generally not the wrong kinds of guys.
We’re comparing a proven commodity to an inexperienced UDFA who’s spent as much time on IR as off it. He’s a mediocre athlete who’s coming off a torn ACL. He works hard, but that doesn’t make him better than someone who works hard and is also physically gifted.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'll remind you of Martellus' intelligence level though.
This is the dude calling for an open competition between Romo and John Kitna. I’m all for competition in camp, but that was just bordering idiotic.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll remind you of Martellus' intelligence level though.
this is the dude that came from a run oriented offense in College, and has had to learn arguably the most difficult position on the team(outside of QB) while developing his skills as a receiver, and adjusting to the speed of the NFL….all while behind the best TE in Football, and getting maybe 20% of the first team snaps……
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 26, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Won't happen.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
If anything at all happens with Bennett he'll be traded.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Let's not go overboard.
We need Bennet and Phillips for JG’s offensive scheme. Bennet has not lived up the hype but he is still a very good two or three TE.
It's more of a wishful thinking kind of thing
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you. Some guys just don't take the game seriously. From everything I've seen/read, he's one of them.
Founder & Editor of SouthOrangeJuice.Com
Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Today is like Christmas Eve
you start to figure out all of the crap you’re not getting…I can’t wait until Christmas to see what we’re getting
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
did Alex Barron feel like Chrismas?
people reacted the same way when Flo was cut … the Skin’s game didn’t feel so chrismasy though.
might want to keep in mind how a WR injury might feel … if Ogletree in the starting lineup would feel like chrismas?
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
And if an injury happened
would having Roy make it feel like Christmas? It’s all about who we get…Alex Barron is like the present you open up and it’s a pair of black socks
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If we kept Flo, we wouldn't have found out for sure about Free. Plus Barron wasn't supposed to be Flo's replacement.
Roy is good enough to play and more than good enough to back up our other two WR. But NOT at what he costs. PERIOD!
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
the biggest mistake in a long time
he cost us a lot more than just his poor play, in lost opportunity elsewhere
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
sure he was a mistake.
the draft picks and signing bonus are a sunk cost.
this is the typical though. Fans celebrate X player getting cut without considering the future consequences.
With Austin and Dez I don’t see RW being missed but if either of those guys get’s injured RW will seem a whole lot more attractive.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
My point is that it doesn't have to be ROY.
We can surely find a guy with “Roy’s Elite Skills” (Voice dripping with Sarcasm) for much less. Unless we feel satisfied with Ogletree.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
We can surely find a guy with "Roy’s Elite Skills"
just like we found a guy with “Flo’s Elite Skills” for much less. I.e. Alex Barron.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Free Replaced Flo.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You're getting hung up on who they replaced Flo with
Cutting Flo and Roy…great ideas. Finding the right person to take their place, that’s the real decision. Barron was a bad one. And finding what Free could do made it worth it.
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
here’s what I approvingly quoted last year when flo was cut
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2010/4/6/1407796/the-yin-and-yang-of-flozell-adams#33951110
It’s just difficult to see how the Cowboys are better off without Adams on the roster, even though he’ll turn 35 soon. For the first time since the ‘90s glory days, there could have been depth at offensive tackle in Dallas.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder what this means for Hurd
if he is more likely to want to stay, having a legit shot at the #3 receiver spot? Some say he is what he is but Iin reality he’s never been given a good chance… he the only other receiver on the roster now who really reliable knows the offense and can be counted on to be where Romo expects him to be. And I know Joe D would love to keep him.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Camp will determine this.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
THIS!
Bennet, Ogletree, Ball – these and several others will now have their fates determined in camp and preseason games.
Put up or shut up time. And getting RW and some of the others out of the way means more time looking at who is going to make the roster.
I have never felt so much anticipation over training camp.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
Technically...
He wouldn’t be the 3. I mean he wouldn’t play slot. He’s an outside receiver. Probably couldn’t tell him apart from Roy with jerseys off…similar builds. He would only see the field if Dez or Miles came off…which didn’t sound like what he wants.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 2:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hurd could play the Slot
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
I think Ogletree or Hurd can give us what Roy did for much less money.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I think Ogletree or Hurd can give us what Roy did for much less money.
Right. Because there’s so much factual evidence that suggests that case.
Maybe do a compare / contrast RW vs. Ogletree first couple years of their careers.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would I do that?
Roy was a starter and Ogletree has barely gotten on the field. Roy hasn’t been that player a single day he’s been here either, so your point isn’t valid.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Roy was a starter and Ogletree has barely gotten on the fieldmaybe think about why this was the case.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Because Roy was drafted by the Lions and was the main target before Johnson got there...
And Ogletree had like 4 guys in front of him? That might have a little to do with it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I could be wrong but I don’t believe there is a lot of evidence that suggests that Ogletree or Hurd would be as good as RW.
I’ll leave it at that.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
The point is it won't take much for somebody to do that.
He only has 1300 yards in 40 games with the Cowboys. That’s a little over 500 yards a year. He won’t be missed.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
The point is it won’t take much for somebody to do that. … That’s a little over 500 yards a year.
Right … there are only 20 1st round WR draft picks in the last 10 years that haven’t been able to do that.
finding productive NFL WRs is so blindingly easy …
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I could "Pick", "$$$MIllions of reasons".
Using you’re logic think about why he was cut. Was it because he was so good?
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Money and status
that’s why. Has zero to do with what either of them can do on the field.
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
black socks are useful....
Alex Barron is the pink bunny suit that was made by your senile grandmother that thinks you are still 3 years old……
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 26, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
reply fail....
was replying to this:
Alex Barron is like the present you open up and it’s a pair of black socks
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 26, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
i could be wrong, but I’m not sure Bennett is the kind of guy you want to cut.
Looking at some facts, Bennett is on a 2nd round contract costing $555K salary and ~$200K prorated bonus. Total cost ~$750K.
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jul 26, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It was more of a tongue and cheek comment
he’s overly annoying…plenty of other things the Cowboys have to do before they get to the backup tight end situation
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this cleaining house by JG...
…no more coddling underperforming players like Wade Phillips did before. It’s time everyone earn their playing time by hard work and on the field efforts/results. I feel really good about Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan this year. GO COWBOYS!
We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.
Next cut will be Colombo IF we sign Free
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jul 26, 2011 1:22 PM CDT reply actions
Id like to keep colombo and have him come back
at the vets min salary as the swing tackle/mentor
I'd rather get a younger swing tackle
We all saw how he played last year… His feet are gone
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jul 26, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
can't do that
he’s a “progress stopper” for guys like Sam Young
Now you may wonder how much progress Young will ever make…but its the principle
best of luck the the Barbarian!!!
Hello BTB world!!! sad to see the 24 go, but it had to be done. How much have we saved cap wise with the cuts of Bigg, Roy-W, Marion and the kicker?
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Cowboys savings: Marion Barber $4.74M; Roy Williams, $5.1M.
by tattooed cowboy on Jul 26, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
wow NFL Network reported Dallas was cleaning house on the offense.
Davis, Colombo, Barber & Williams
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Pretty much who I expected would go.
I still don’t really agree with Davis, I would have just let Kosier walk and brought in a younger FA guard but I knew that probably wasn’t going to happen.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
My reasoning is more about money.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I like the moves..getting rid of the dead weight
now its time to get Free done….
Ive been waiting for this day for years
Roy Williams, ex Cowboy. I love the sound of that!! We might see a Packer WR here… Stay tuned
by dcsince77 on Jul 26, 2011 1:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Hopefully they're clearing space for the secondary and O-line.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
James Jones is Roy at a discount.
That should appease all of the fans who believe we need to keep roy around incase on of our starters get hurt. We can get a tall receiver who’s much faster, younger, cheaper, that can’t cath either.
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
We already have Teddy Williams that fits all of those criteria.
I’m wondering if Troy Bergeron is going to be the breakout star this camp.
Rabid and luvin' it
And we have more of those
The Cowboys signed Abilene Christian WR Raymond Radway today:
Radway was the Wildcats’ third-leading receiver in 2010 with 32 catches for 438 yards (13.7 yards per catch) and five touchdowns. He played just two seasons of football after an all-America track career for the Wildcats.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 26, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm, interesting.
Another track star WR. We could use some speed in the slot, hopefully one of them pans out eventually.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
MB3 should never have been the "feature" back.
He was at his best closing games, not trying to carry the rock 20-25 times a game. He might’ve had a much longer career that way, too.
cowboys.xanadu-fx.com
Yep, it's a shame.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
It's on Jerry
he paid 1st RB money for a3rd down back. Seems like bringing in retreads like Parcells only ended up costing us money and picks. Bye Roy not sad to see you go. Bye Barbarian, sorry it didn’t work but enjoy the cash your new Raider team.
The Cowboys changed the culture of their team in 9 minutes.
The Mets are on their 9th month!
#BelieveInJerry !
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
Hahaha, but if we're judging by recent success; they both suck equally.
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Roy E
How much will this cost us? Rumors were that this move would add big $$ to the cap number for this year.
that's what I'd been hearing all along too
but apparently not the case… maybe how the new CBA works is different
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
See above
We saved 5 million, somehow.
by CotySaxman on Jul 26, 2011 1:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But did we get the ring back??
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I'd rather have the first round pick back
by danielcp0303 on Jul 26, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If he doesn't give it back we can always take him to "Tall Lames Court".
Anyone else wondering why Romo's talking to the media about the "Secret Practices"?
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jul 26, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
-RIMSHOT-
Tall Lames….lol
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
Finally
we are geting rid of some of the crap on this team. I hope it contiues. This team has needed a house cleaning for a long time. Can’t believe Jerry has the balls to do it.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
I think Garrett probably has a lot to do with it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
If your neck is inthe noose
you want the pleasure of committing the crime. GARRETT is probably pushing for ateam he made andremoving someone else’s choices. They don’ t have to good or bad but just don’t feel right if you aren’t choosing.
Good bye MBIII. I like your game back when. I hope you have enough
body left to make a few more years in the league. Good bye Mr. Davis. You never quite got your game level up while here. Good luck on signing with a new team. Man am I glad the rumor mill can finally come to and end. Haven’t been logged on much, although I have been reading what you guys have to say about things, over the past several months. Now that we have a training camp coming up, I’ll peek in more often.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
One last good bye, to Roy Williams, who, to me, played like a guy looking over his shoulder. He just
did not fit from day one. Jerry really missed with RW. Man would I like to have those draft picks back.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
unfortunately the ball was going over the other shoulder ;-)
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
by scottmaui on Jul 26, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
MB3 is trending on Twitter.
People are wondering what’s up with all of the cuts Jerry Jones is making. I think he is just trying to get his team on the correct side of the salary cap. I am sorry to see Barber go. He had some good times here, but it’s hard to justify paying that much to a player in decline.
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