Reality of the New CBA ...You asked for it!

If this is true finally relief for some very bad contracts No Dead Money WOW Nice JOB
RW, Barber, Davis, Flo, Hamlin, Brown, maybe time for Newman if no Restructure

Trade Oshank, Choice, Bennet, Scandrick for Picks & CB JMcCourtey(Ten) DT from Clev

I like our odds. Did the Bengals manage to sign their really good cornerback while dealing with the whole Carson Palmer drama? I feel like we should target him.

I would think this would be huge news in the nfl work for most teams and not such a secret

I wouldn’t exactly call it a disagreement. I’d say it was more of a discussion :).

Thanks for the information. Can’t wait to see the specifics of the documents agreed upon.

is from It’s Always Sunny in Phili…“we’ll get to our hot plates soon enough”

Funny that the first place this shows up on the internet is on Bloggin The Boys. Just shows how great this site is. I’ve been searching the past weeks and not one site has mention of how the “dead money” breaks down according to the new collective bargaining agreement. Finally we know and now the real fun begins. It’s likely Newman & Igor will be on their way out as well. That is if the Boys can find a stud corner and lineman to add.

Based on rumors I had read, I thought maybe the “no dead money” clause only applied to cuts made before the lockout (Flozell, Hamlin, Crayton.)

If ALL dead money is gone (Davis Barber etc.), and we wipe the slate clean, this is extremely good news (at least for the Cowboys.) But it’s hard for me to believe given that I haven’t seen this anywhere else.

Keep your fingers crossed.

there were a lot of rumors implying exactly this: 2011/2012 are soft cap years and the dead money from past bonuses would not carry into these years

it’s the saving grace for the Cowboys and makes sense seeing that JJ was at the front of structuring how the deal went through…

plus all these cuts coming sort of already confirm it :) they wouldn’t kill 2012 by pushing 30 million of dead money into it. it’s not likely JJ is thinking it’s 2011 or bust. Just look at last year when the Super Bowl was in Dallas, there was an uncapped year, and they basically did nothing. Seems JJ learned after 2007-2008 not to overspend but rather spend on your own guys and cherry pick the free agents that can be had for the right price

I asked if there was any evidence to back this up. I hope he’s right but I too think the major networks would be all over this

they didn’t blow up last year when they absolutely had the chance and now your suggesting they would kill a year all to sign to tackle, hmmm

I wish I had time to today to expound on this, but I don’t so I will try and explain this fast ..
When the owners were sold the new CBA they were given all the plus’s up front (expected outcomes) Each owner was convinced this deal gave them exactly what they wanted (more controls to move their team in whatever direction they choose) Once the owners walked away from the table they brought home the framework and provisions for their internal legal team to evaluate. On a document this complex it will take 7-10 days to interp. and and devise a course of action. Over the weekend there was a dear lord moment at several team headquarters. Expected outcomes are effected by something called Synergy in every deal with moving parts. Synergy in essence is untoward effects (that is how the deal says one thing and works another way entirely in motion.) Most teams saw massive loop holes to move dead money and assumed they were not really under the gun to act on their bad deals immediately (2011 and 2012 are Transition Years.) And considering this is the first look many teams have had at framework they are still trying to piece the puzzle together. Over last weekend a few sharp arrow legal eagles put it together fast , before crying wolf , they sought secondary legal opinions from outside, probably a few friendly judges and more notably faculty members at several major law schools were asked to look it over from an unbiased precept. They are just now starting to get the results. It will still take the individual legal teams several days to dissect the information and break-it down for the owners.

From my understanding here is the way it breaks …

4- teams are dead in the water (35 or more heavy back loaded contracts that need re-do)
 PATS, EAGLES, GB AND JETS

5-teams are in real trouble (20 or more back loaded contracts that need re-do)
 GIANTS, MIN, AZ, ATL, INDY

4-teams are on an outright jail break (less than 10 back loaded contracts to deal with)
 WASH, DAL, MIA, CHI..

FITAT is correct about 2012…in one regard, if the old CBA rules were in effect..this entire list would be turned upside down.. with the new rules and how the entire framework is boiler plated up, teams that practiced the “player stock piling model” are toast, hence GB demanding 2 Transition Years in the deal instead of just one. Right now the league and teams are in flux, no one (except for a couple teams) have any real ideas about how this all lays out (i.e. 2013) The teams are taking stock and trying to determine how to proceed will adapt and survive some teams will gamble throw caution to the wind and try to Win Now. A couple teams have a real advantage and are trying to figure out the best path to capitalize on the New CBA.. For most 2011 will not be a dire year…2012 may be the end of several teams world..

The Giants problem is they only have 14 GUYS signed out past 2012, the toughest year to sign any major contracts will be 2013.. Here is why, “A team’s salary cap is adjusted downward for UNEARNED bonuses that were earned in the previous year but not counted against that year’s cap.” to qualify this use this example. Eli has an escalator clause worth 2.5 mil for surpassing 4000 yds in League Year 2011 in his current deal. He hits this bonus and gets paid the money , however, the problem is under the new CBA the 2.5 mil is subtracted from the Giants 2012 SALARY CAP dollar for dollar no off-sets. UNEARNED bonuses extend to ALL escalator clauses/Performance bonus’s and Rooster Bonus’s. That means any contract player with one of the above mentioned clauses that will likely be achieved can hurt the team. What the Giants now have to do is re-do those deals to prevent NEW DEAD money that can account against the Team Salary Cap for 2012 and 2013 . Back loading a contract is not only Salary its the escalators and Rooster bonus’s that create New Dead money (Subtractions from the Salary Cap). The veterans are going to CASH in now because teams like the Giants are going to have to re-do deals and pay higher Salaries to eliminate the escalators and bonus’s. The Giants are desperate but others are in tougher spots. (Smile , you have at least 10 players + rookies that have contracts that won’t bite!)

Say the Giants do nothing in 2011 and 2012, your now up against 2013 this is the teeth of the CBA, The new revenue stream (Thursday Night Games) does not deliver the hoped for $1 billion dollar increase in League Revenues,, so the new Salary cap only rises to 134 mil. Now suppose the Giants with those 14 contracts get caught by just two rooster bonus’s and one escalator clause that conservatively cost the Giants 10 mil off the Salary Cap for 2013. Now pay those 14 contracts conservatively say 40 mil. In addition you have 9 NEW rookie contracts which should cost you somewhere around 6-8 mil for the 2013 season…THAT LEAVES 76 MIL. to go out and try to Sign 30 GUYS! Now I know this is Silly time for contracts but pause for a moment If Weddle and Holmes are worth 40 and 50 mil respectively today , how active (how much are they going to have to over pay) must the Giants become to just keep their own PLAYERS in that scenario.

And they had a link in their Fanpost’s to this. Apparently, some other people are catching on and getting the same ideas that Lee has already gone over. I’m getting more and more optimistic….

Req. you are correct in your interp. of 5.b.1-However, here is the problem, 5.b.1 is a standing Sub-Clause with the new “order of the CBA” its attachment point is “under League Years”
In General Provisions " League years 2011 and 2012" are “Transition Years” which are “EXTRA-Ordinary”. in other words the PREEMPTION subordinates 5.b.1 to the “EXTRA-Ordinary” League Years 2011 and 2012. If you follow the logic of 5.b.1 then a gap in League fiscal operations took place between 03/11 and 08/04 2011 , Now players were locked out but the Teams continued to spend money and collect revenue. In order to balance your books on 08/04 you have to produce a P&L and a Cash Statement. To balance Team books during the Gap certain provisions PREEMPTED to the "Extra-Ordinary " terms of League Years “2011 and 2012” see the Williams and Weddle deals..Today I have time to do another fan post and try and break this out with a bit more clarity…

I think I understood Lee’s whole breakdown and am extremely happy and grateful he made the post. That being said I can’t figure out how how to make a “receive” haha! Anyone can help?