Cowboys Cuts: Follow The Money
by rabblerousr on Jul 26, 2011 9:00 PM CDT
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In a normal (i.e., non-lockout) NFL offseason, the league year begins in March with a free agency period, which catches fire and then peters out as the draft nears. Often it's during March that aging or overpriced veterans are released (and scooped up by other teams). As a result of this roster shifting, Cowboys fans usually have a pretty good sense of the roster heading into the draft. This year, as we have frequently discussed, was quite different: we went into the draft with only some vague ideas about which vets we would see take the field in 2011.
When Dallas drafted players like Tyron Smith and DeMarco Murray, it was pretty clear that those selections signified the end of the road for vets Marion Barber and Marc Colombo. Other of their picks didn't offer that same crystalline clarity. Would the acquisitions of Bruce Carter and David Arkin send Keith Brooking and Leonard Davis packing? If we had really been paying attention, I think things would have been much clearer. Look at who was cut today; there is an almost perfect one-to-one correlation between the positions they play and the positions the Cowboys drafted in April.
But there's more; this replacement plan seems to have been in the works for some time. In a preview post before the 2010 draft it was said that to know who the Cowboys were going to draft, all one had to do was to follow the money. At that time, it was noted that several of the Cowboys core players (Tony Romo, DeMarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff) carry very reasonable sticker prices; others, however, were aging veterans--several over the age of 30--with bloated contracts. Thus they were likely to be getting big money for declining skills, an unpardonable combination in a salary-capped market. Here's the list from April 2010:
| Player | 2010 Cap Value |
| Andre Gurode | $ 4.8 million |
| Marion Barber | $ 5.8 million |
| Leonard Davis | $ 8.4 million |
| Terence Newman | $ 11.0 million |
| Roy Williams |
$ 15.0 million |
| Total | $ 44.9 million |
See any familiar names? Most number among the list of players who became ex-Cowboys today. As we consider this, it's important to think about the positions the Cowboys have drafted in the past couple of seasons, since this list was initially created. In 2010, they picked up a WR in Dez Bryant and a defensive back in Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. This past April, they picked up a running back, DeMarco Murray, two interior offensive linemen in David Arkin and Billy Nagy, and another receiver, Dwayne Harris. And they targeted a whole passel of others.
In recent years, there has been a very strong correlation between the number of players at a given position that Dallas has invited to Valley Ranch for formal interviews and the positions they have targeted (and drafted) on draft day. Using his handy-dandy set of charts assembled by our resident tablemeister, O.C.C., before the most recent draft, we can see that, in the past two years, the Cowboys have been targeting these positions in an effort to replace these bad contracts. Since the end of the 2009 season, they have invited 10 receivers, 14 offensive linemen, 11 corners and 3 running backs to the Ranch.
To me, this suggests that Dallas has been feeling pressure from these contracts since the playoff loss to Minnesota, if not longer, and has placed a high priority on finding replacements at OG, RB, WR and CB. The only position that hasn't been replaced is cornerback, and a strong argument could be made that this is only because one of the guys they liked (Kyle Wilson, Devin McCourty, Prince Amukamara, Aaron WIlliams, et. al) didn't fall to them. In a sense, they did draft a potential replacement in AOA, a corner-safety hybrid. I wonder: if he had flashed last season, might we be discussing Newman's departure from the team?
The takeaway from this is not that a more careful look at who the Cowboys drafted in April would have alleviated surprise at who was cut today. In point of fact, none of today's cuts were much of a surprise (although Leonard Davis did catch me a bit off guard, no pun intended). Rather, it's the length of time that the team has seemingly been preparing for this moment, as they continue to extricate themselves from Jerry Jones' largesse before and after the 2007 season.
We have all talked about the cleanup work in Jason Garrett in the immediate future: instill discipline and toughness in a team that has lacked it, enliven a despondent running game, return to fundamentals, restore glory to the tarnished star. Another item on his list has flown under the radar until now: finish the long recovery from a disastrous 2008 offseason. Think about it: contract extensions for Terrence Newman, Ken Hamlin, Flozell Adams, Terrell Owens, and Marion Barber, and the acquisition of Pacman Jones, and then, later, Roy Williams--all done in the giddy aura following the 13-3 2007 campaign. How many of those guys even remotely played up to the big money they received. Maybe Newman, which is one reason why he's still here.
To make sense of this crazy league, you have to follow the money--but you don't have to like where it takes you.
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JasonColeYahoo: Tampa, Dallas in a dogfight for doug free. Could get REALLY expensive. [via Twitter]
Rotoworld's commentary:
The Bucs have as much cap room as any team in the league, and Free fits their profile of investing in talented young players. The Cowboys have been clearing out salary cap space all day, and won’t go down without a vigorous fight.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Who in the hell...
is Jason Cole?
Not saying that he’s not reputable, but how is a yahoosports guy getting the inside on this?
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Member of the PFWA
Long time coverage of the Dolphins. Not just a random blogger. It’s not clear to me how a guy who covers the Dolphins would be getting info on the Bucs, although geographically they are pretty close.
Actually, he's pretty good
He and Micahel Silver, they don’t get a ton of stuff like Adam Schefter. But when they get something it’s from old-school first-hand digging, talking, and networking. When they get stuff it’s usually pretty damned solid.
You may remember Cole’s counterpart, Michael Silver, for earlier this year pulling on the Terrelle Pryor thread at Ohio State until head coach Jim Tressell resigned in scandal.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I had heard his name before, just thought it was weird that yahoosports is doing it.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Hey, Yahoo is a pretty good site for sports.
For instance, I was on Yahoo reading about the Cowboys one day, and there was a link to something called Blogging the Boys. So Yahoo gets the credit for me being here.
Or the blame.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
Haha, definently blame.
Yeah, Yahoo isn’t all bad.
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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 26, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to thank my brother for bringing me here.
It was right after we drafted Dez. He said, “hey, you have got to read this post about what all the other team fans blogged about us getting Dez”.
I think OCC makes those posts. Please make more of them. I love ’em.
July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!
Will do
when we start winning a couple of important games again.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 27, 2011 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions
this I think is why We will resign Doug Free
most teams know that Jerry is A) a Salary cap Wizard, B) doesn’t let the players he likes get away, and c) is willing to overpay to achieve B) because of A)…..which means that teams will more than likely look to other options(which have been detailed to death) before attempting to get in a possibly fruitless bidding war with Jerry……
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 26, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly
These teams know Jerry will overpay and he will.
Give Free a number. he doesn’t like it there is the door.
by oneforthethumb on Jul 26, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
good
Let Free go.
Don;t waste money on this gambling game of free agency.
Good teams never win through free agency.
Look at the pats and steelers. The bucs are the lowest paying team in the league.
Pay Free the going rate,. You don’t like it leave.
by oneforthethumb on Jul 26, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Market value - be it object or player
is determined by supply and demand. LT is very short in supply and there are a number of teams who need one. Hence the market value it increased beyond what might have been in the past. Free is young and has many more years in the league. If you don’t pay him, where will you find his replacement?
Smith may be the right player but not as a rookie (he has been a RT). I don’t expect Free to give the Cowboys a discount of much. But he may be willing to structure and later restructure his contract to be cap friendly. The Cowboys may not have much cap space but cash up front is apparently available to make the deal more attractive.
That's what I don't understand with Tampa...
making such a hard play for Free. They just signed Donald Penn to a huge contract in 2010:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4097/donald-penn
7/30/2010: Signed a six-year, $41.7 million contract. The deal contains $18.8 million guaranteed, including a $2 million signing bonus and Penn’s base salaries in years one through three. Another $5.5 million is available through first-year incentives, though they are “unlikely to be earned.” Annual $400,000 workout bonuses and $600,000 weight-clause incentives are available in years two through six. 2011: $7.2 million, 2012: $5.1 million, 2013: $5 million, 2014: $6.4 million, 2015: $6.5 million, 2016: Free Agent
It’s way too early to be cutting him. It’s way too much to pay a backup. Yeah, they have a lot of cap space to use. But, you don’t throw away money like that just because you can.
At RT they have James Lee who is only 25 years old and played pretty decent from what I’ve read. So, I doubt they’re going to pay $7.2M for a RT if they move Penn over. And they sure as heck won’t be outbidding Jerry so they can make Free their new RT.
The whole thing just makes no sense.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 26, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Free would give them bookend tackles for their young QB
Lee is average. Free would play RT for them.
by rabblerousr on Jul 26, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Dang, that bites.
Tampa already has the best young roster in the NFL…
And a ton of cap space, of course.
Give me UR calls! Give me highstepping by CBs and PRs entering the endzone! Give me screaming on the sidelines and headbutting! Give me Fortitude, Solidarity and VIOLENCE! Bring me CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Bring me Ridolin LOL! - B'nSB
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 26, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
And now this
JasonColeYahoo: Colombo could be next to go in Dallas if they re-sign Free. Colombo declined a restructure earlier, called back and was told to wait. [via Twitter
That's a foregone conclusion IMHO
Only reason he’s around is because Free isn’t under contract.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
We must sign
Free or we’re in for a long season
What? Is there something wrong with starting Stephen McGee in Week 6?
I mean, it’s not like both our QBs were injured last year with a fully healthy O-line.
Oh wait… no….
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Cmon
The Pats and the Steelers are never held hostage by one player. Let’s sacrifice a season or two and build from within.
Look at ty law. The Pats draft is always above average.
Let’s get a real GM and rebuild this club through the draft.
Good teams don’t build through free agency!!!!
by oneforthethumb on Jul 26, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
That's because the pats always have someone behind every player
That player may not be a star, but he’s sufficient. Who’se beind Free? A 20 year old rookie tackle and a past-30 RT whose body has completely given out on him.
Oh, and Alex Barron.
Drafts matter.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Dont worry.........................
The Glazer family that owns the Bucs are cheap as hell they wont go as far as Jerry will be willing to go to keep Free.
It doesnt matter how cheap they are
They have to spend money almost 50 million this year . just to reach the cap.
Cowboys are paying left tackle money
The Bucs are not getting get in a bidding war for a right tackle and pay Free more then they paid Donald Penn last year.
Actually, this is an exceptional point...unless the Bucs want to pi$$ off Penn, they can't pay him more than six-year, $43 million.
So, at least we know where the contract price for Free is hovering. I can live with paying Free 7-7.5mil…Now, I’m really confident we’ll sign Free.
by CaliFanInTx on Jul 26, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
These are good points - but factor in the limited time and the raised minimum against the cap
There are going to be a number of players overpaid this year. It is inevitable. If Free is not signed on Friday will we likely lose him?
Not if Tampa is the only other team in play...and its the only one I've heard about.
The Bucs need to spend a lot of money, but they can’t piss of their existing players in the process. If the Bucs really want to make a dent on that War Chest…spend it on Namdi…last time I checked, they could use CB help…
In any case, I feel better about Free now than I have all day…been pretty nervous.
by CaliFanInTx on Jul 26, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if this is the rub.
Does Free want more money or a starting left tackle job? The Bucs can throw the bank at him if they want, but he’ll likely never play LT there. Penn is only 28. I consider Free a key player for us, but if he takes more money just to be a RT for the Bucs, I’d rather spend big for a more proven commodity like Asomugha (not that I think Asomugha is the wisest purchase anyways). I have to think that team commitment is part of the RKG profile – but I also understand Free’s desire for his (only?) chance at a huge payday. Frustrating.
by KeyOfZ on Jul 26, 2011 10:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why isn't Free proven?
Jared Allen, Julius Peppers, Clay Matthews, Dwight Freeney, Orakpo x2, Tuck x2, Umenyiura x2,
He faced basically every formidable pass rusher in the league last year and did an amazing job. What more needs to be done to be “proven”?
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't say he wasn't proven at all
I said a player like Asomugha is more proven. Free was lights out against some fearsome pass rushers last year – but Nnamdi has been cutting fields in half for a long time now. Your point is exceedingly well taken, and I’d rather have Free too – just saying we don’t know if regression is a possibility (a la Mike Jenkins) because the sample size is relatively small compared to Asomugha. And I wonder if that thought factors in to Jerry’s thinking at all.
by KeyOfZ on Jul 26, 2011 10:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
In a world where the top-spending
and cheapest teams are seperated by 5% or 8% words like “cheap” cease to mean anything.
This is what I was talking about a few weeks ago when I was shocked and saddened by the news of the salary floor being 92-95% of the salary cap.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Make that almost $60 million
$59 mil to be precise. They’ve got a hole to burn for sure.
by KeyOfZ on Jul 26, 2011 10:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It should not have come to this...
We should have tagged him when we had the chance. You didn’t see the Steelers waste any time tagging Lamar Woodley did you? We should have just tagged him and negotiated later.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
co-sign
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by silverblue5 on Jul 26, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully jerry has learned some lesson from haphazard spending
because recently too many cowboys have been enjoying too much of this:
without actually earning any of it on the field
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 26, 2011 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
At the eagles
They got d jax who is going to hold out… They also screwed up the kolb deal.. Hilarious…
by scandrick32 on Jul 26, 2011 10:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't say I am surprised that Tampa Bay is the one going after Free.
It makes perfect sense to pair their talented young QB with a talented tackle (albeit one who would play on the right side).
I do have to wonder how far Tampa is willing to go though considering that Free would play RT for them. I mean they would be spending a huge amount of their cap on both tackle positions in the foreseeable future. Of course, having a pair of talented and young tackles would be pretty appetizing to any team.
And on a related note, I wonder how that will play into Free’s thinking. Does he care which side he plays? Does he care whether he will get a shot to establish himself as a top LT in the game long-term? Does he want to be “The Man”?
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
obvious if free do jump its for the money...
So what can he say?,LT RT?
Who cares when u making 10 mill a season..
by lostar2009 on Jul 26, 2011 10:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Players tend to have more ego with more money so perhaps is matters
Free may not feel secure with Dallas drafting Smith. If so he may figure he is going to move to RT by next year anyway.
I don't necessarily disagree.
But if the numbers are close, I wonder if that line of thinking enters Free’s mind at any point? This is of course assuming the Cowboys assure him that he is the future LT and Smith is the future RT.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Im kinda mixed on Free. I really want him to sign back with us as our window to win with
Romo is closing with each wasted year. However, Free isnt exactly 22 years old. At 27 he probably only has 2-3 high level season of play left in him at LT.
which makes a perfect fit with Smith
when he declines he and Smith can be flipped.
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
We got a D-lineman: Keenan Mace
6’4 307 lbs; 4.8 40; 34 reps
I call dibs on him being my pet cat
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
Man amongst boys in that tape
I mean, you have to say “it’s against bad competition” but the thing is he does what he’s supposed to do – embarrasses them not one, but every single snap.
Very interesting UDFA addition.
Who knows, maybe he gets absolutely shut down at the NFL level. But when you’re getting UDFAs these are the kinds of guys I want to see brought in. Maybe only one out of every 30 is worthwhile, but when that 1 is a Romo or an Austin or a Ratliff it’s DEFINATELY worth it.
Kudos to the front office for finding this guy.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
NT's
the kid from Houston and possibly the kid from Ole Miss
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Jul 26, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
More like a college player against HS players
But you can see his speed and he looks like he could convert at least 20 pounds to muscle and be even faster. I am impressed. Think about (I am sure we all are) what Ryan will do with his speed!
or maybe he can't handle it and is cut in the first roster cut-down
whatever happens, I like the pick. He’s got potential. And with UDFAs that’s what your doing. Find guys with potential, give them a chance, and see if they show anything. If they don’t – dispose of them and move on to the next thing.
Absolutely love the signing. We’ll see if he can stick around until september.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
he played in some arena league or something too I found on the net
he is a beast in that tape, nice burst
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Jul 26, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I really like him too
great tape I saw
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Jul 26, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
When do you make the switch to Keennnyyyyy?
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 26, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Or maybe...
Maceyyyy!
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 26, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
free to tampabay..
If that’s his choice I guess he will follow the money..I’m sure Dallas can sign quality RT and play Smith at LT..
Smith can play the LT or RT either way its going to be a growing pains..
by lostar2009 on Jul 26, 2011 10:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What about Free Agent fallback options at OT--if we lose the bidding war for Doug Free?
I saw that the Saints LT-Jermon Bushrod and the Bucs LT-Jeremy Trueblood are both unrestricted FAs as well.
I sure hope that Jones and Jones have contingencies in place—and that they include Bushrod and Trueblood.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
by silverblue5 on Jul 26, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
That's been my problem with the Smith pick since January
He’s 20 years old. 3 years of growing pains and maybe he becomes the best LT in the entire NFL. Let’s say that happens, he’s the best tackle in the NFL 3 years from now after growing pains.
But where does this leave this team? Romo is 34, Ratliff is a worn down 32, Witten is a beat-up battered 32, Ware is 31.
The window of this team is slammed shut by the time we wait for Smith.
This is a win-now team.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Smith was rated the best OT in the draft
the fact that he is only 20 is a bonus.
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
He was rated as the "best" OT in the draft based on "potential"
and you’ll find my fanpost on how “potential” ends up playing out in the real world if you click on my name.
We’ll see about him. I hope he’s great. But there’s top-5 picks in this league right now that were drafted based on potential and are still backups.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
he and Costanzo were 1 and 1a
Smith being quicker Costanzo stronger. Smith was rated as the better LT prospect, and is not a project RT, a position Smith has played the last 2 years unlike Costanzo.
Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin
true, but if you make win-now choices
you get in trouble really quickly. The best teams ALWAYS make decisions for the future, and trust that they’ll still have good players then, too.
by rabblerousr on Jul 26, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Update from Fox Sports' Jay Glazer
FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer reports the Vikings have agreed to send a 2012 sixth-round pick to the Redskins if Donovan McNabb agrees to restructure his contract.
The Vikings will also include a conditional 2013 sixth-rounder. Minnesota was also looking at Tyler Thigpen and Bruce Gradkowski, which tells you all you need to know about Donovan McNabb’s value right now. The decision to abandon those two QBs also suggests a confidence that McNabb will agree to a significant paycut in exchange for a shot at leading what could be an explosive offense.
Jul 26, 11:17 PM
Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
hahaha
I love watching the Eagles lose all their leverage in the Kevin Kolb trade and now the Redskins having to roll with the Grossman and give up McNabb for a freaking 6th rounder!
I love watching all the best-laid plans of the Eagles and Redskins get destroyed!!!
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
co-sign
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Also, small update on the Kolb trade front...
… if it matters. Cards offering DRC and 2nd. Eagles want DRC and 1st. News from a Graziano tweet.
by KeyOfZ on Jul 26, 2011 10:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He's not lock down or anything...
but a second and him for Kolb is still a good deal for the Iggles.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
If I'm Arizona...
I give Philly the middle finger and trade a 3rd for Kyle Orton.
Philly has no leverage because they have NO other buyers.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
I agree with you Fist
Let’s remember, this is the Kevin Kolb that spent most of the season riding the bench with injuries only to come back and lose to Stephen F*ing McGee.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't get the love for Kolb
I think he’s a possible decent QB, but he’s not enough to give up a starting CB and a 2nd round pick.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
he Kolb is somehow supposed to be this big hope
but he’s been mediocre at best in his limited playing time. He has the advantage over a rookie just because he has some experience, but he hasn’t shown anything to indicate he’s going to be a great QB.
But re losing to McGee, do have to remember he was playing behind their backup oline. But still McGee did look favorable in comparison.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
I literally just told my family this today.
Why trade all of that for Kolb when you can get Kyle Orton, a guy who can put up some pretty impressive numbers and would be a perfect fit for their system, for so much less? I know he may not be the QB of the long-term future, but he could carry you for a few years while you find that next franchise guy.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Orton is proven,Kolb not so much
Orton is a guy who you can win with, he won in CHI with no weapons, and made a star out of Lloyd. Kolb could be merely a systems QB. Not worth a 1st rd pick, IMO
Osama Bin Laden is dead! That's the only thing better than the Cowboys drafting an Offensive Tackle in the 1st round this year.
by APerfectStar on Jul 26, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely agree.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Money post
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
"Good" deal?
I’d call that anything higher than a 4th with a starting CB highway robbery for a backup QB with little significant track record other than concussions and multiple interceptions.
by KeyOfZ on Jul 26, 2011 10:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He's fallen off quite a bit.
He’s still young but the huge knock on him is that he isn’t physical at all.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
If that's the case,
I’ll take a quick screen to Dez on either of the Eagles’ corners.
Don't give up a first, AZ.
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
DRC and a second is already too much
Come on Arizona, Kolb isn’t worth more than a third in my book.
If I was the cards I would trade all of my older vets for draft picks
and hope we land Luck next year. Its not like they are going to the superbowl soon anyhow
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
That's bs
Eagles would have taken that in a heartbeat….cromartie however is solid but far from a lock down cb
by scandrick32 on Jul 26, 2011 10:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh my god if they pull this off I'll scream.
Arizona is already stupid for offering Cromartie and a second.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I may be a longhorn homer but i cannot believe there is not one peep of interest in VY
like him or not the dude flat out wins games
Who will be battling Tavaris Jackson
for the starting spot in Seattle this year.
Man, what a wasted year for high profile college QBs.
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. --
Tom Landry
"A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing." —Emo Philips
by Pnut Gallery on Jul 26, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah...
I just read that he isn’t interested now in Seattle.
Leinart will probably be in Washington.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
VY is going to Miami
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
That'd make way too much sense for Miami...
which is why that won’t happen. :)
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Didn't Jackson reach an agreement with SEA?
Now the Seahags are going after Sidney Rice. Bevel is the ex-MIN OC now with SEA. So it makes sense.
Osama Bin Laden is dead! That's the only thing better than the Cowboys drafting an Offensive Tackle in the 1st round this year.
by APerfectStar on Jul 26, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he should win the games in his head first...
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
fair enough
to me it would be worth the risk though if im MInn. Miami or Arizona or even Oak. Tenn record with him compared to without him is pretty lopsided
Good question
A few guards out there.
Or we could go with the Holland/Arkin camp battle a la Michael Hamlin vs. Alan Ball last year – oh wait… no…
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Holland at least has played guard before though
and performed well when he has been healthy.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
My money is on Holland.
He’s got the experience and size to balance out the RT side. Arkin or Costa if he gets hurt yet again.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
What kind of shape is Holland in?
Wasn’t that the knock on him the last two seasons?
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
We won't know until camp.
And yes, it was the knock on him. I wonder if he was at the player run practices?
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure they'd want two rookies on the same side.
Even if it is the right side where Romo would be more likely to see the pressure.
Free-Kosier/Arkin-Gurode-Holland-Smith
Kosier if he is resigned, Arkin if he isn’t.
Of course, we do have a couple dark horses lurking for either G spot…Bright, Costa, Nagy, Kowalski, Acuna and Letuli.
Then there’s always the chance Jerry snags a vet FA.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Jul 26, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I just finished reading that whole thread.
The follow the money thread. Ah, it was great having Raf around back then. Not to impune our current cast of writers. But reading that whole thread it seems like we had more fun on the blog back then…but of course, that was before DalaiLuke married the 14 year old nanny and became a family man.
Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?
Raf is greatness
The current writers are also greatness. But Raf is always greatness.
When OCC goes to stats-heaven we’ll still be calling him greatness too. :)
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
no impugning taken
Raf is a friggin’ god.
by rabblerousr on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That was kind of like losing Free to FA, wasn't it?
Remember when it was announced. I was very worried about my fav website. You guys have rocked ever since.
Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?
tampa bay boards are creaming over Free like they get if they want him and only have to
beat out NY……..
If I was a Tampa fan, I'd be doing the same
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Comparable salary for the Buc's RT?
The Chargers were busy Tuesday, also agreeing to a four-year, $20 million contract with Jeromy Clary according to Acee. The right tackle will make $8.5 million in 2011 pay. That’s one way to get to the salary cap floor.
Schefter says we signed Doug Free!!!!
http://twitter.com/#!/adamschefter
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
4 yr 32 mill 17 guaranteed
nice job guys
Get Better, Not Bitter.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 26, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
That is a contract I can live with
NICE JOB!!!!!!
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh wow. Greatest news I have heard in a long time.
And that contract is freaking sweet too. Jerry looks like he knows what he is doing haha.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
the last few hours this board is full of posts about how badly Jerry has handled things to get into this situation… and then he ends up pulling out a very reasonable deal for Free and makes all our worry for naught.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
and Boom goes the dynamite
Osama Bin Laden is dead! That's the only thing better than the Cowboys drafting an Offensive Tackle in the 1st round this year.
by APerfectStar on Jul 26, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Love da signature
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
That post we'd all been waiting for!
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Thank you, Doug.
I heard Free was the first player to arrive at Valley Ranch after the lockout was lifted. I was really worried we’d have to overpay for Free. I was also worried we hadn’t seen enough of his work to pay a whopping contract. This is great news.
Has it struck anyone else that if you fused Jason Garrett and Rob Ryan into one person, he may be a lot like Tom Landry?
we just resigned free according to Schefter
4 years 32 million! 17 million guranteed
WOOHOO!!!!
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Per PFT.com
After fending off an unexpected challenge from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Dallas Cowboys have kept tackle Doug Free.
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Free has agreed to terms on a four-year, $32 million contract, with $17 million guaranteed.
See ya Colombo!
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Jul 26, 2011 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Jerry Jones Yall!!
Adam Schefter
Dallas reached agreement on a four-year, $32 million deal that included $17 million in guaranteed money with OT Doug Free
Go Cowboyz!!!!!!
Dez is gonna beast this year!!
Melooooooo!!!!
I like those numbers
I can live with paying Free $8 million to be our LT through his prime.
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I think that is exactly around what he deserves.
I think Dallas payed right at market value for him.
…makes me wonder what kind of dogfight they were in exactly.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
that is a very good contract for Free
Very smart signing
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by Antonio S on Jul 26, 2011 11:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I read on rotoworld that it was probably Free's agent...
…that leaked out the “dogfight with Tampa Bay” statement to help drive up the price.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
If there is something Jerry knows how to do...
is make and spend money. I knew he would get this done… We have our bookends…
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yay Jerry!
Oh man glad they got that done today so we didn’t have to wait another day or two to find out…
Those are actually very reasonable numbers considering there was other bidder(s).
The thing about Free is that he is, as they say re draft agents, totally “clean.” He is totally RKG, no character problems of any kind, no injuries, in the prime of his career. All that of course on top of his game tape. There is no more of a sure thing, safe bet at such an important position for this offense.
Yay Jerry!!!
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Being reported that Miami aka Cowboys South are showing interest in MBIII.
Cant believe they didnt see that one coming.
Lmao!
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
I figured this was a given.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
They did just draft Daniel Thomas, but that move makes sense with the Sparano connection
If they take Berger McQ, and Proctor, they are sure to take MB3
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by APerfectStar on Jul 26, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Per Rotoworld.
Cowboys agreed to terms with OT Doug Free on a four-year, $32 million deal.
The deal includes $17 million in guarantees, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. The Cowboys gambled by refusing to franchise Free at $11 million for 2011, and it paid off despite the reported “dogfight” with the Bucs. We suspect that was overplayed by Free’s agent in an attempt to drive up the price on the Cowboys. Free is tentatively expected to stay on Tony Romo’s blindside this season, though it’s not set in stone.
I agree the “dogfight” didn’t seem like much of one.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
I sure hope Free stays at RT this season and maybe even next season while the kid
learns grows not only in strength and conditioning but in his knowledge of the game.
I was thinking about Smith moving to LT and Free to RT after a few years while I
was writing that. Felt stupid when I read it after posting. lol
yeah
let Tyron get comfortable in the NFL and play the position he’s used to… we don’t need him at LT, we’ve got Doug Free!!!
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Will the unsigned Rookies
report to camp. How will that work?
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
OMG I have been saying all along we would have to sign Free for this much and people thought I was crazy
Now everyone is pleased as punch with that contract.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
I definitely didn't think you were crazy.
I’d have been surprised if he went for anything lower than 7-8 mil.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
That is about right for Free
Twitter: @silva918
by Antonio S on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought it was going to be more.
I’m way happy with that.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
yayyy
Being waiting on this news thorough the whole day. Now FREE the beast !!!
Sorry for the misspelled words but I’m at work :) .
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Jul 26, 2011 11:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Now we can focus on building our squad
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Now that we got Free. Who does everybody hope we go after next? Weddle,Elam,Bowen………..Nnamdi!!!!!!!
Go Cowboyz!!!!!!
Dez is gonna beast this year!!
Melooooooo!!!!
My guess is Elam, but we'll just have to wait and see....
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
Bowen and Elam for sure
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Thoughts on Weddle...
one of the guys they called…
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Best FS on the market right now
arguably top-5 FS in the league. But rumors as his asking price is $7 million with 6 teams currently competing. Not sure he’s worth it when we can get Elam for $1.5 million.
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I'd love to have him but I don't think we need to overspend at S
we’ve made that mistake before
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Elam and Huff
Elam as SS and Huff as FS
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Any reports that they spoke to Huff...
Have only heard Elam and Weddle…
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
No, nothing on Huff from the rumor mill
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I would take both...
Weddle to a longterm deal…
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree this seems most reasonable
Rob Ryan knows both guys and should be able to make that decision easily.
Elam will be less expensive, and he’s 2 years older than Huff.
It sounds like SD is not willing to part with Weddle, they moved way up in that draft to get him, and they don’t have a lot of guys on their roster to secure. I think he stays in SD.
Osama Bin Laden is dead! That's the only thing better than the Cowboys drafting an Offensive Tackle in the 1st round this year.
by APerfectStar on Jul 26, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, but I'm still puzzled that the Bolts just signed the injury proned Bob Sanders though
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Good for them.
Not that I’m a SD fan, but in a way I look at them as an underdog because they never go anywhere in the POs.
Give me UR calls! Give me highstepping by CBs and PRs entering the endzone! Give me screaming on the sidelines and headbutting! Give me Fortitude, Solidarity and VIOLENCE! Bring me CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Bring me Ridolin LOL! - B'nSB
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 27, 2011 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Interesting that Free's contract will be the same length at Tyron Smith's contract
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
That's no coincidence
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
that could put them in another pickle in 4 years… although I think they’ll have the option in the third year to extend Smith for a fifth year, if I read that correctly re the new CBA
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
and you have to remember RFA status
they can RFA guys, then franchise them the year after. So if Smith turns out to be the best tackle in history we can hold onto him for a long f*ing time.
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
If Smith becomes what we all hope he does I can see ol JJ just sign Smith to longer
before that fifth year even comes into play
Okay, forget what I was saying in the other threads.
That’s a steal for Free. Now let’s go steal Davin Joseph from Tampa for messing with us, sign Nnamdi, and get Elam.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I'm not so sure we get Nnamdi
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by Antonio S on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I dont want him personally. Gonna be too expensive and he's gonna start declining in skills
as he gets older.
I'm souring on Namadi
I don’t think I want to give a 30-year-old a 6-year contract. Know what I mean?
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
We could Jonathan Joesph for way cheaper. Hes not as good as Nnamdi but he is stil really good.
Go Cowboyz!!!!!!
Dez is gonna beast this year!!
Melooooooo!!!!
I'm actually really interested in Grimes, CB, Atlanta Falcons
I’m quite interested in him.
Let Nmadia “bow off the top of the coverage” in the free agent market, so to speak; then sign the #2 guy who happens to be really f*ing good while everyone else is busy talking to Asomugah.
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I also like Josh Wilson a lot.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Me too
But I read that the Ravens are gonna do all that they can to keep him
But that shouldn’t keep us from trying : )
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
just think Charles Woodson
Namdi could easily give us 4 years of top notch play . And lots of memories.
D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL
by salas88 on Jul 26, 2011 11:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Anything from here on out is icing on the cake.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
I agee man!
That’s how I feel.
Get me some decent safeties, a good DE and let’s call it an offseason.
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
We're going to need a G too
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
No - 2 Gs
That fascinates me. I have no clue what their plan is and I’m intrigued by their boldness.
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Kosier coming back is probably going to happen.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Yeah, that's the easy answer
Just toss in guys we already know like Kosier and Holland.
But I’m not so sure that’s what Dallas is planning to do…
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Id sign both guys as their replacements were just drafted last year
and this year. Let those guys learn from the vets and can take over for Ksier next year and at the longest 2013 for Holland. I also want to see Brewster after having a full season of strength and conditioning under his belt.
me too
Brewster get a bad rub here….My ideal Lineup?
LT-Free(wooohoo!!!)
LG-Koisar(with Arkin waiting in the wings)
C-Gurode(say what you want the man can still play
RG-Brewster
RT-Tyron Smith
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 26, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I'm almost certain they bring back Kosier.
Personally I would prefer to get younger too, but I doubt they bring in 2 new Gs. I think at least one is coming though.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I tend to agree here
Cap-friendly contract for Kyle to fill he gap while waiting for Arkin. But who is our right guard??? I don’t think it’s Holland…
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by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't either.
Need a Joseph/Mankins/Nicks type.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Agree on Kosier
My target as the big OG pickup is Justin Blalock from ATL. They have 3 OL guys unrestricted, plus Grimes, CB, and I think Peterson.
Hopefully Dallas can outbid ‘em and land Blalock (or if they let the other guard go, Harvey Dahl, I’d be down with that too. He’s got a nasty streak. Dahl was another rookie FA that Dallas signed and then cut way back when, just like Brian Waters.
Osama Bin Laden is dead! That's the only thing better than the Cowboys drafting an Offensive Tackle in the 1st round this year.
by APerfectStar on Jul 26, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, Blalock would be nice too.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
And Dahl...hit enter too soon.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Now is when the real work begins.
Time to fill some holes.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Oh no doubt.
It’s just that a few hours ago I thought there was a real threat of us losing Free.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Same here.
I was crapping my pants. I’m good now though.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Jason La Confora just said the Cowboys are interested in Cullen Jenkins. He would be a real nice addition!
Go Cowboyz!!!!!!
Dez is gonna beast this year!!
Melooooooo!!!!
wow, I always figured that he would be a little pricy
but I’d be stoked if Jerry managed to pull that off as well
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
OH GOD YES
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Cullen Jenkins is my underdog signing right now
I think he can be got for a good price and is very underrated. This is a guy with 7 sacks from the DE position. Marcus Spears gloats about getting 2 sacks. We praise Bowen for getting a handful of pressures. Cullen Jenkins gets 7 sacks.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I would be thrilled if we got him.
I have been advocating for him for a while now. A lot of people will say he is too old, but, at 30 years old, he can still be productive for years, and even 75% of Jenkins is a better pass-rushing DE than anything we have had since we really switched to the 3-4.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Expensive, but better than anyof our current 5 tech's
Osama Bin Laden is dead! That's the only thing better than the Cowboys drafting an Offensive Tackle in the 1st round this year.
by APerfectStar on Jul 26, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Before FA, the rumor was Washington. However...
…the Skins just signed Barry Cofield.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Not thinking yet this morning. My bust. Cofield is NT, Jenkins DE in a 3-4 D
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
ESPN says Cowboys have re-signed Doug Free!
$8M a year for six years.
you're a little late to the part loly, but yeah!!!
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Hehe yeah, I just saw it on TV. Didn’t know the news was out yet. Re-signing him was the biggest concern I had. Getting a safety would be easier than replacing him in my opinion.
the wonder of twitter lol
no way to get news faster
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Can we have a countdown clock to the first preseason game.
PLEASE!
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
there is one on the front page, left side
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Missed it. Thanks...
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It is so good to see that clock for a GAME!
Preseason or not.
If at first you don't succeed - blame someone else.
The best part about Free's contract...17 million guaranteed...2 years from now we could part ways with no pain.
Let’s start hoping these young OL we just drafted the last 2 years start hitting for us…
How would that 17mil prorate over just 2 years?
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, it's not a bonus...it's a guarantee...at 8 mil per he's clear in 2 years...we won't have a cloud hanging over us
…and if one of our young draft picks is ready to go…we pick up cap space by trading Free for draft picks…
by CaliFanInTx on Jul 26, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Since it is probably front-loaded,
I imagine it would prorate extremely nicely.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Ok... thought it was a bonus..
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
8
I was hoping for 7, 7.5 a year. In two or three years that makes him easily one of the highest paid RTs..
I can live with 8...
that makes him a top 5 paid LT i do believe, and top 3 paid RT…..which is exactly what Free is…..
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....
by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of RTs can't play LT as well as he can
That is a pretty insurance policy at LT
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
what are the exact contract details for free?
http://cowboysanalysis.blogspot.com/
4 years @ 32 mil with 17 mil guaranteed.
Go Cowboyz!!!!!!
Dez is gonna beast this year!!
Melooooooo!!!!
whos the idiot that said 6 years lol
http://cowboysanalysis.blogspot.com/
Am I the only one who doesn't want to sign Weddle?
Kind of want to give AOA a chance. Rather get a solid starter at SS like Elam who would be cheap and provide competition for some of the younger guys like Sendejo.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
I want 1 safety spot locked down for years
My dream scenario is Weddle is our FS for the next 4 years and Elam is signed to a cap-friendly contract that enables him to be succeeded by AOA/Sendejo in 2012.
Not particularly realistic, but that’s the kind of strategy I hop Dallas is moving towards.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too...
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
by LDVFootball on Jul 26, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
What happens if we give AOA a chance and it just doesn't work?
might not be worth the chance, I don’t know?
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
Could always plug Scandrick in at FS if need be
we have been toying with that for years
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
Don't give up on Sendejo.
You have your pet cats. Sendejo is mine at SS.
July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!
I think AOA could play SS or FS.
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More UDFAs
SAN ANTONIO — The Cowboys continue to add undrafted free agents, including former Plano East star Collin Zych, who played safety at Harvard.
Zych attended the "Dallas Day" workout at Valley Ranch before the draft. He was an All-Ivy League pick as a senior with 79 tackles and 12 pass deflections.
DE Kennan Mace, Lindenwood
DE Lamark Armour, Ole Miss
NT William Bradford, Northeastern Oklahoma
RB Phillip Tanner, Middle Tennessee
WR Raymond Radway, Abilene Christian
LB Orie Lemon, Oklahoma State
LS Corey Adams, Kansas State
DE/DT Matangi Tonga, Houston
LB Alex Albright, Boston College
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
are these DEs
really DEs or future OLBs?
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 26, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Matangi Tonga?! I hope that kid makes it cuz I like how his name just sounds like a
pro bowler to me. lol
I thought "Matangi" was the name of a voodoo queen?
"....the Cowboy way...." (Head Coach, Jason Garrett)
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 26, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Doug Free Thread
on his signing if you want to move the condo about him over there…
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/7/26/2296704/cowboys-sign-doug-free-to-four-year-deal
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Safety off the board showing early price
St Louis – Safety Quintin Mikell agreed to a four-year, $28 million contract. (7/27)
Per PFT.com
Does anybody know
How much cap space we free up if we cut Terence?
Btw I have to say Jerry’s done a pretty good job in a bad situation, saying laters to Barber, Roy, and Bigg and freeing up over $15mil? Then signing Free to four years all in one day. I mean, goddamn, Jerry sure is efficient.
Oh yeah, Tana resigned with the skins $15mil in 3 years. I lolled. He’s good, but come on he’s 32.
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