Cowboys Ink Kyle Kosier to Three Year Deal
by rabblerousr on Jul 27, 2011 11:38 PM CDT
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PrintA quickie here: Todd Archer of ESPN Dallas has just tweeted that the Cowboys have signed Kyle Kosier to a three year deal. JasonLaCanfora reports that the contract is expected to be around 9 million. How much of that is guaranteed is as yet undisclosed.
Last season, as Keg so ably demonstrated in his recent post on the Dallas O-line, the more mobile left side of Free and Kosier were by far superior to the lumbering right side, where Leonard Davis and Marc Colombo did their business. With the drafting of players like Tyron Smith and David Arkin in April, it was apparent that Jason Garrett wanted to acquire linemen whose games resembled that of Free and Kosier, so that all five players could pull, run in space and get to the second level. As recently as yesterday evening, with both "leftsiders" as free agents on the open market (and, reportedly, a bidding war breaking out for Free's services), this seemed a tall order.
But, as Keg pointed out, Jerry always gets his man. In this case, the 32-year old Kosier (he'll be 33 in November) will likely be a Cowboy for the rest of his career. He's a feel-good story of sorts: as one of the few free agents brought to the Cowboys without much fanfare, he has proven to be one of their best FA pickups. Although he missed a few games to injury in 2008 and 2010 (and proved difficult if not impossible to replace in both instances), he has been Mr. Steady during his Cowboys tenure.
This is an important signing for another reason as well; Kosier is a savvy vet who helps center Andre Gurode make a lot of the pre-snap line calls. Gurode has a lot on his plate this summer: he'll have to get his knee well, then get used to having a new player on his right side; having to make all the calls would be an unwelcome additional burden.
More to follow as the news trickles out...
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Clarence Hill says renegotiation has failed with Columbo and he will be cut.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Oh well.
He was a good player for a while, but he shouldn’t be starting and he was getting paid starter money.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
My thoughts exactly.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
Agreed.
Still wouldn’t have minded seeing him take a pay cut and come back as a backup. Could still happen, I doubt he gets too many good offers on the open market. If not though then good luck to him. Very classy stand up guy and was very good for us for a few years.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
He'll probably be a Dolphin.
Seems like they get all Dallas castoffs.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
Wouldn't shock me a bit.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Is Procter still over there?
This could reunite Free Reign
So pardon my disposition; why should I listen to a system that never listened to me?
by Furious Styles on Jul 28, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
i think he along with sporano
i think sporano is still there? what about jason ferguson? or rob petiti?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 28, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
And now Calvin Watkins is saying that his status is still uncertain.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
That was a must.
I’m doubting Kosier’s deal is too hefty either.
AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.
JasonLaCanfora: Dallas agrees to 3 year deal with OL Kyle Kosier. Deal expected to be worth around $9M
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by Portland's Cowboy fan on Jul 27, 2011 11:40 PM CDT reply actions
Okay I can deal with that.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Very reasonable
I like the move. I felt they had to re-sign Kosier after cutting Davis. Plus he always grades out well in OL season reviews.
Not content with Holland though. He’s a decent player, but seems to have trouble staying healthy. I still want them to target Blalock or Dahl. Guys that can upgrade the position. If ATL has to pay out the azz to retain Clabo, it doesn’t seem likely they will be able to get both guards re-signed as well.
Kosier can hold down the fort until Arkin is ready.
Doug "Fresh " Free, Cowboys' newest millionaire.
by APerfectStar on Jul 28, 2011 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions
This is a good deal.
But as I said on the fanshot, I still would like them to find a more permanent RG as well. Holland can be effective, but he hasn’t shown an ability to stay healthy. I don’t really want to be one Holland injury away from Arkin taking the field.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
...more Permanent solution?
Have you noticed how many OLinemen drafted and undrafted that are coming in?
by CaliFanInTx on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
To camp?
I mean there are a good amount, but let’s consider that there are three guards on the roster right now that I consider to be possible starters: Kosier, Holland, and Arkin. The problem I have is that Holland is extremely injury-prone and Arkin is a small-school kid that may or may not adjust to the NFL right away. For me, I simply would prefer to see one more solid guy added. You can challenge my phrasing of “a more permanent solution” but I think the logic behind my point is still pretty solid.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
It is.
There is not a quality starting RG on our roster right now. Holland is passable, and that’s about it.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
There comes a time when you have to develop your own talent instead of paying premium free agent prices.
I’m all for considering an inexpensive 2 year solid stop gap, if such a player exists, but I’d prefer to see our limited resources put towards DL’s and Safeties…
Again, to paraphrase Stephen Jones, if a value opportunity arises from the cuts this Thursday, then we should consider it. Otherwise, be judicious with the resources.
by CaliFanInTx on Jul 28, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I just watched the whole press conference...
And Stephen said the Cowboys are looking for 2 new O-linemen at minimum.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Right...but he didn't say of the first tier kind...he's looking for value...
That’s been the Cowboy’s mode of operation for awhile now…how many of the “high profile” free agents do we ever go after? Leonard Davis was the last one I remembered…
by CaliFanInTx on Jul 28, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
They did clear out a lot of cap space
I think going for a top tier FA Guard is exactly what is required to make the line championship quality.
Arkin is the guy they want to develop for the future (probably Kosier’s replacement)
Cullen Jenkins would be a big money FA signing, but I don’t see another high dollar FA available to fill DL or Safety. So getting a top Guard wouldn’t prohibit Dallas from signing a couple DE’s and a Safety or two, IMO.
Doug "Fresh " Free, Cowboys' newest millionaire.
by APerfectStar on Jul 28, 2011 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Just curious
Did he say “new” or did he say 2 free agents? Because Kosier and Free already make 2 free agents they signed.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 28, 2011 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions
He didn't specify.
But he said 2 at minimum. Maybe more.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I didn't say we had to go out and pay Carl Nicks $50 million.
But I absolutely believe we should be contacting the agents for guys like Davin Joseph and Harvey Dahl to see what their markets look like.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
For sure,
It would be nice to have another O-lineman with real experience and a good reputation. Especially if Columbo is out.
Although many of us have been predicting a starting line of Free, Kosier, Gurode, Arkin, Smith. I would not cry about that, but we do face teams with some nasty DTs this year…
Give me UR calls! Give me highstepping by CBs and PRs entering the endzone! Give me screaming on the sidelines and headbutting! Give me Fortitude, Solidarity and VIOLENCE! Bring me CHAMPIONSHIPS!
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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 28, 2011 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Arkin might well start over Holland
I think the kid will be a baller
by rabblerousr on Jul 27, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I very much hope that you are right.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
That would be icing on the cake
But I wouldn’t count on Arkin even beating Holland out for RG. He looks like he’ll need a year of weight training and NFL diet and lifestyle to be ready for the jump in competition.
Doug "Fresh " Free, Cowboys' newest millionaire.
by APerfectStar on Jul 28, 2011 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions
A quickie huh?
I would like to, at this time, tip my hat to the writers of this fine blog for keeping us up to date on the whirlwind of activity that has descended since the lockout ended. It seems like a second full time job and I’m not sure they been given props enough. I applaud their tireless efforts to keep we junkies satisfied.
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
by Benthere on Jul 27, 2011 11:45 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
Jeez,
we’re uglier than the groupies for Marilyn Manson. Sorry for our FPWs…
My god, I wouldn’t even go back to my dressing room with this motley crew waiting to touch me.
Give me UR calls! Give me highstepping by CBs and PRs entering the endzone! Give me screaming on the sidelines and headbutting! Give me Fortitude, Solidarity and VIOLENCE! Bring me CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Bring me Ridolin LOL! - B'nSB
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 28, 2011 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
cnnsi.com, espn.com, and especially dallascowboys.com have been erased from browser memory.
This is the first place I go for information.
Definitely
Been at Fort Bliss all week, no contact with the outside world except BTB over BB. First rate coverage.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jul 28, 2011 5:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Exactly great job
I also would like to thank everyone else for not posting any fanshots.as fanpost regarding other tab moves. Great job keeping the cowboy.focus. Visit any other blog and you can’t tell what team they focus because the fanpost section looks like scheftys twitter feed.
Thank you guys
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There are other teams?
I know about the Beast and the Cards. Heard rumors of Pats, Jets and Steelers, not sure those are true tho.
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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 28, 2011 6:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree completely.
And if y’all want to make the writers get warm fuzzies, they have already told you how. Hit that Rec button on their post!
Was it OCC that said they will write for Rec’s?
by Rena on Jul 28, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm holding a line here:
You’ve proven that Dallas wants all around athletes at all 4 positions, not 5; Tackles and Guards. Dallas hasn’t tipped it’s hand about Centers, but given the incredible quality of DTs and NTs right now, like when we play Detroit, it is fantastic to have one wall of muscle right in the middle. This is what Andre Gurode gives you. He can check one superior interior defensive linemen all by himself. No other center can. And that is why I believe the future Offensive Linemen template has 4 athletes and one road block, most especially at center.
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 PM CDT reply actions
I'm basing this on Bill Nagy
which I realize is pretty scanty evidence. But both he and Arkin have a smiliar profile: good foot athletes, with a little nasty to their games. If Arkin’s eventually going to play RG, which I’m assuming he will, and Kosier’s going to man the LG spot for the next few years, then where does Nagy practice/ play? Right now, its at center—although this will become much clearer in the next week.
by rabblerousr on Jul 27, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I ahve a feeling Nagy becomes the backup center this year and could well replace Gurode
by as early as next season. Big OL who is very athletic. Played O line position at Wisonsin.
Man
Optmism is running high on BTB these days. Everybody talking of 4th rounders, 7th rounders and undrafted dudes taking this team over.
Tyron Smith and that's all
by SportsDrunk on Jul 28, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
That's pretty constant here for whatever reason.
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you're scared. So am I. But we are scared for different reasons. I'm scared of what I won't become. And you're scared of what I could become. Look at me. I won't let myself end where I started. I won't let myself finish where I began. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes. I have something more important than courage. I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
LOL and you're handle is "Sportsdrunk"
There’s an irony in there..
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
It's kind of ridiculous.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Gurode may well become a cap casualty next year
His cap hit in 2012, the final year of his contract, is $8.166 million ($6.5 million base salary, $1.666 million cap hit). Releasing Gurode will open up $6.5 million of cap space next year.
The Cowboys had better find a suitable replacement.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 28, 2011 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Overpaid
Why I wanted Wisnewski in the draft
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jul 28, 2011 6:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know about Nagy, but he’s got a chance. Not starting, even due to injury, makes him a question mark. But this camp will not have the minicamps to prepare coaches. They do not know yet who these players are. Some players may thrive in the high impact stakes.
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Kosier was a 7th rounder.
Heck, look at where we drafted Free and where he is now. A lot of lineman in this league that have the measurables just need time in the weight room and with a good coach. To me it seems a lot more likely a 4th and 7th rounder OL will wind up starting for your line at some point than say a 4th and 7th rounder WR.
well yes he might compete to start at some point, but we are talking about a relatively tape-less man. Yes WI’s team had some good Olinemen but this is the NFL where every team has better players that Wisconsin in 2010.
And while he might compete to start, I think a 2012 or 13 draft pick is more likely
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmm that’s true but how many times can we keep throwing multiple draft picks at the same position before we start hurting again?
Next year is either going to be an OLB or a CB taken in the first and second watch.
I’m not saying they’re definitely 100 percent sure to start soon but rather that with good coaching and fitness they actually have a more realistic shot than other positions. And while I do agree that he is relatively tapeless the coaches are going to get more than enough time to evaluate him during the course of the season.
For the 2012 draft, yes a center will not be higher than a 3rd round pick for Dallas, that I agree. Nagy has a chance, because he is on the roster, but as a 7th round pick he does not have a favorable hand.
I am very curious what this harrowing training camp will give us, who knows, perhaps more UDFAs make the team than draft picks
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
More UDFAs than picks?
You know what? With the Cowboys that wouldn’t surprise me in the least!
Haha.
especially when they have 20 UDFAs and the immediacy of the season upon them
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they don't draft very well.
But usually find a couple players through UDFA.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 28, 2011 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions
My most hyperbolic angle says Gurode will redefine the Center’s position as the OL position for power. His power and strength are unusual and not easily replaced. And from the center position, with quicker players all around him, that strength is well applied.
I expect the center to be the pivot of our running game; when a toss goes right, he’ll be the left most line blocker. When a toss goes left, he’ll be the right most.
The trend here is strength in the middle, speed on the edges, to an ever exaggerated degree.
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Well no kidding the NFL has better players than Wisonsin. They are prfessional
athletes. Nobody said Nagy was pushing Gurode out of the way this year from all post I read. We are just stating that he has the chance to possibly challenge Gurode next season and because he has played every OLine position he could fill in in an emergency. Chill out. You have about as inside info as I or anyone else on here. So again, chill out.
In many ways that summarizes my thoughts on Nagy; he looks like, from here, a qualified back up who can man many positions. From here, that’s how I see his career playing out. A good NFL career of being a useful game day roster, but not really a regular starter
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Only time will tell but lots of players have made it to the PB level
and were drafted AFTER the 7th round back when the draft had more than 7 rounds. Im not saying he’s gonna start but he has the chance to start in a year or two and if Im not mistaken Gurode is on borrowed time with those knees of his. Personally I think with season and next off season with Houck and our new/old strength and conditioning coach Nagy will push an aging and beat up Gurode possibly (note I keep saying possibly) replace him.
I agree, and yet I’m commenting against a larger trend that goes back Gorude’s whole career. He has been massively under-appreciated. His unique skills, of strength and checking great defensive tackles, are not easily replaced.
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I agree that he has been underappreciated his entire
career. It probably is due to the fact that he struggled mightily as G and thats all that folks remember about him. But then again Dermonttii Dawson was under appreciated during the majority of playing career too. The guys in the trenches tend have that happen to them unless they happen to be an obvious future HOFer like a Larry Allen.
I’ve been sympathetic to Gurode for a long time. I felt his troubles at Guard were related, based purely on me watching games, to ADD. His switch of position to Center changed the way he was mentally engaged and set his playing on fire. He’s been a good center with uncanny aptitudes for a long time.
If this team wins like I believe it can, Gurode will get his due.
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions
It may take a while but he should get more respect
I just dont think his can hold up much longer than this season or next though.
He could maybe someday develop into something.
But I don’t think he will stand out any time soon.
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If you are talking about Nagy I think next preseason he may push Gurode
if they want him at C at all. Not saying he’ll beat Gurode out but he stands a good chance.
When you think about what tomorrow will bring...
Coaches are already rapidly sizing up players, seeing who showed up in shape and not; what are the speaking patterns of the UDFAs and do they look strong. The lack of mini-camps means the coaches aren’t already planning around the player’s mental capability to learn.
All this topical learning means time not focusing on fundamentals for the Defense. Potentially the good scheme becomes a blown tackle. Still I have a lot of confidence in Jason Garrett.
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by AustonianAggie on Jul 28, 2011 12:11 AM CDT reply actions
seems like a decent deal
Even if he gets hurt or declines with age, it won’t hurt us too bad.
This is great news.
Quality player, decent price.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jul 28, 2011 1:48 AM CDT reply actions
OL is now basically set except for RG
I think either Holland or Arkin can do an adequate job although if we could sign Joseph, we’d easily have one of the best OLs and our offense would be the best and most explosive in the league.
The defense is the only thing that concerns me about the team….Ryan has his work cut out for him.
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I agree for the most part
But, I do wonder if this means that Kosier will play RG (to be adjacent to Rookie Smith) and Holland or Arkin will play on the Left Side. Still pretty solid, but definitely has room for improvement.
I think Free’s success (last year) was partially enabled by playing next to a smart guy like Kosier. Breaking up that combo doesn’t make me feel great. Good maybe, but great? Certainly not.
Along the same line of thinking, Holland and Smith being the Right Side, ehh. I am really excited about Smith playing RT, just not sold on Holland (or Arkin for that matter) on being the solution to the RG position on a full time basis.
Interesting thoughts!
Maybe Kosier on the right would help stabilize that side considering a rook will play T. Plus he can still help Gurode with line calls. Hmmm
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by dunkman on Jul 28, 2011 11:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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