Top 20 And BOTB Players On Offense In Cowboys History (Non-QBs)

by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 9:12 AM CDT in Dallas Cowboys History

We are now three posts in, taking care of those that get credit for the wins and losses. The coaches and the quarterbacks are out of the way, now let's move along to the other position players. For a look at the quarterback pool, check here. Even excluding the signal callers, the Cowboys have been exceptionally blessed in being able to find championship level talent. The list is full of players with multiple championship rings, pro bowl nominations and some MVP honors.

We'll stray a little from out previous format, and for this post and probably the next, we will present the Top 20 non-quarterbacks. These rankings are per ProFootballReference.com's Approximate Value score. PFR has graded each player in NFL history on a season by season basis, in an attempt to rank players from different eras.

Here's a brief explanation of the metric from it's creator, Doug Drinen.

"AV is not meant to be a be-all end-all metric. Football stat lines just do not come close to capturing all the contributions of a player the way they do in baseball and basketball. If one player is a 16 and another is a 14, we can't be very confident that the 16AV player actually had a better season than the 14AV player. But I am pretty confident that the collection of all players with 16AV played better, as an entire group, than the collection of all players with 14AV."

For the full explanation of AV, you can go here. We'll only be focusing on AV's accrued while in a Cowboys uniform.

As with all advanced metrics, the results are up for debate. While the majority of PFR's rankings pass the initial eye test, most of us aren't able to recollect players from other generations because we've never had a chance to watch them in action. We do have some BTB members that have been watching the team for 40 to 50 years, and as usual we appreciate any insight they have on these historical lists.

Follow the jump for the lists.

Rank	Player	Played From	Played To	Cowboys AV
20	TE Billy Joe Dupree	1973	1983	71
19	OT Pat Donovan	1975	1983	73
18	FB Don Perkins	1961	1968	76
17	TE Jason Witten	2003	2010	80
16	OT Mark Tuinei	1983	1997	80
15	C Mark Tuinei	1983	1997	80
14	WR Tony Hill	1978	1986	82
13	OT Erik Williams	1991	2000	86
12	C Tom Rafferty	1976	1989	87
11	OG John Niland	1966	1974	89

10 - WR 'Bullet' Bob Hayes

Hayes played from 1965-1971. Dallas Career AV 92. Three time Pro Bowler, two time First-Team All Pro. Inducted into Hall of Fame in 2009. Led NFL in TD receptions 1965, 1966. Led league in yards per reception in 1970 and 1971. Led league with 20.8 punt return average in 1968.

9 - OG Nate Newton

Newton played from 1986-1998. Dallas Career AV 93. Six time Pro Bowler, two time First-Team All-Pro. Three time Super Bowl champion. Played two seasons in USFL.

8 - OT Flozell Adams

Adams played for the Cowboys from 1998-2009. DCAV 94. Five time Pro Bowler.

7 - WR Drew Peason

Pearson played from 1973-1983. DCAV 99. Three time Pro Bowler and Three time First-Team All-Pro. Led NFL in receiving yards in 1977. Played in three Super Bowls, winning one.

6 - OT Rayfield Wright

Played from 1967-1979. DCAV 104. Six time Pro Bowler, three time First-Team All-Pro. Inducted into Hall of Fame in 2006. Played in five Super Bowls, winning two.

5 - OG Larry Allen

Played from 1994-2005. DCAV 110. 10 time Pro Bowler with Dallas, six time First Team All-Pro. Played in and won one Super Bowl.

4 - OT Ralph Neely

Played from 1965-1977. DCAV 124. Two time Pro Bowler, three time First-Team All-Pro. Played in four Super Bowls, winning two.

3 - WR Michael Irvin

Played from 1988-1999. DCAV 128. Five time Pro-Bowler, one time First-Team All-Pro. Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2007. Played in and won three Super Bowls. Led league in receiving yards and ypg in 1991. Had career high 111 catches, 1603 yards and 10 catches in SB winning year of 1995. Had 47 100 yard games, third most in NFL history. 87 postseason receptions for 1315 yards, both rank second all-time.

2 - RB Tony Dorsett

Played for the Cowboys from 1977-1987. DCAV 131. Four time Pro-Bowler, one time First Team All-Pro. Inducted into Hall of Fame in 1994. Played in two Super Bowls, winning one. Had NFL's longest runs from scrimmage in 1977 (84 yds) and 1982 (99) which is still the longest in NFL history. Ran for over 12,000 yards with the Cowboys, another 3400 yards receiving. Had 51 catches in 1984, averaged 9.0 yards per reception for his career.

1 - RB Emmitt Smith

Played for the Cowboys from 1990-2002. DCAV 162. Eight time Pro Bowler, four time First-Team All-Pro. Inducted into Hall of Fame in 2010. Played in and won three Super Bowls. Led NFL in carries in '91, '94 and '95. Led league in rushing yards four times. Led league in rushing TDs three times, including 25 in '95. Also caught 62 passes that season. Averaged over 100 yards per game three different seasons. Career NFL leader in rushing yards with 18,355, over 17,000 with the Cowboys including the record breaker. 153 career rushing touchdowns in Dallas (2nd all time 164 total).

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The rest of the Offensive Player Pool

I took a couple liberties here, but only a couple. There are some current Cowboys listed here that haven't had a chance to prove their all time worth just yet. I have confidence in them, though, and to round out the field they've been included.

Position	Player	Played From	Played To
C	C John Fitzgerald	1971	1980
C	C Andre Gurode	2002	2010
C	C Mark Stepnoski	1989	2001
C	C Jim Cooper	1977	1986
C	C Dave Menders	1964	1974
G	G Tony Liscio	1963	1971
OG	OG Herb Scott	1975	1984
OG	OG Blaine Nye	1968	1976
OG	OG Leonard Davis	2007	2010
OG	OG Kevin Gogan	1987	1993
OG	OG Kyle Kosier	2006	2010
OT	OT Marc Colombo	2006	2010
OT	OT Doug Free	2009	2010
RB	RB Calvin Hill	1969	1974
RB	FB Walt Garrison	1966	1974
RB	FB Robert Newhouse	1972	1982
RB	RB Herschel Walker	1986	1997
RB	RB Marion Barber	2005	2010
RB	FB Ron Springs	1979	1984
RB	FB Moose Johnston	1989	1998
RB	FB Amos Marsh	1961	1964
RB	RB Duane Thomas	1970	1971
RB	RB Felix Jones	2008	2010
RB	FB Richie Anderson	2003	2004
TE	TE Jay Novacek	1990	1995
TE	TE Doug Cosbie	1979	1988
TE	TE Eric Bjornson	1995	1999
TE	TE Mike Ditka	1969	1972
WR	WR Frank Clarke	1960	1967
WR	WR Terrell Owens	2006	2008
WR	WR Alvin Harper	1991	1994
WR	WR Terry Glenn	2003	2006
WR	WR Lance Rentzel	1967	1970
WR	WR Miles Austin	2007	2010
WR	WR Dez Bryant	2010	2010

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Quick question. I was amazed to see Tony Dorsett had 84 fumbles while with the Cowboys. That is an incredible number including three years in double digits. I started watching the Cowboys in the mid to late 80's, can someone fill me in on how that was viewed at the time?

Also, let us know how you feel about PFR's rankings. Anything that you'd have done differently? Give us your version of a top 20 and anything else that has caught your eye.

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Up next in the series: BOTB Defensive Skill Positions

Special recognition for this series goes to the following resources. I'm very appreciative of the content provided.

www.profootballreference.com

www.wikipedia.com

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Something I kind of knew

but had no idea how significant it was. Every championship caliber team in Dallas had one thing in common. A REALLY good offensive line.

I believe we’ll see the same thing about the Defense. Dallas has always had good players in the trenches when they won championships.

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by TK19 on Jul 6, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions

I watched TD all throughout his career, both in college and NFL

and I never noticed a fumbling problem with him at all and I never heard any complaints from other fans or media at the time.

TD isn’t the nicest person in the world, but you can’t deny his true greatness as one of the best RBs of all time.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 6, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions

thx Terry

it blew my mind when I read that stat. Two seasons with 12 fumbles and another with 10.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions

I think many fans were spoiled with Emmitt

that dude hardly ever fumbled at all

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 6, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Amen to that

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions

We are very spoiled in general.

When number 11 all time has an AV of 89, and people like Johnston, Duane Thomas, Stepnoski, Ditka and Novacek don’t make top 20…
Wait til the defensive list comes out. Is going to be AWESOME!

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by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 6, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions

He had a fumbling issue

He’s not a big guy and doesn’t have big hands. You knew it was going to happen, but it wasn’t beaten into the ground as an issue because there was basically no one else in the league at the time who could break though the line and be behind the safeties in about five steps.

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by Burrito Electrico on Jul 7, 2011 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Interesting, and pretty accurate!

Any insight into how Neely passes Allen in the calculations?
Also, surprising that Witten isn’t higher.

And, man, I know Tuinei was good, but we sure had an edge since he played 2 positions at once, didn’t we? That must explain the 90’s Cowboys’ success :)

I don’t remember Dorsett’s fumbles being a big deal. I’d bet a large % were recovered by Dallas. But the D’s were so different in those days, he took a lot of hits in what were like scrums from rugby.

Have you ever rewatched an entire game from the 70’s? So different.

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by Realist Larry on Jul 6, 2011 9:56 AM CDT reply actions

Rugby scrum

A rugby scrum is a set piece where 8 players from each team bind together and push against the other pack for a ball that is rolled down between the two teams. The front rows try to strike the ball with their feet, no hands allowed while the ball is still under a player.

A scrum consists of a front row, two props and a hooker, the primary person trying to kick the ball back where as the props are supporting the hooker so he has free use of his feet. Bound behind them are two 2nd Row players, or locks. Their job is to push the front row forward. alongside the 2 locks are 2 flankers, they also push against the props, but are also able to break off quickly to defend or attack. The 8 man binds in between the 2 locks, he pushes and may also break off to pick up the ball once it reaches his feet.

I really wish announcers would quit saying that things are a “scrum” when they clearly don’t know anything about rugby, from which our version of football evolved.

by Goody4 on Jul 6, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions

It's just an analogy now

The term “line of scrimmage” came from the term scrummage. If it’s similar to anything with a ball carrier, it’s a maul, where the ball carrier is held up and both sides are pushing with the carrier in the middle.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 6, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions

They have hookers in those things?

I may need to look into this sport.

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by Tom Ryle on Jul 6, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions

+1

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions

In terms of looks, they'd be more like

Juarez street walkers rather than High-priced escorts. Just sayin….

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 6, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions

that what blindfolds are for

and if that doesn’t work, the guy should cover his eyes too.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh man. Sorry.

I thought we were talking about women. My bad, KD…

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 6, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions

hahaha

I was saying that if putting a blindfold on her doesn’t improve her appearance, than the guy should put one on himself.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Not that there's anything wrong with that....

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 6, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Kinda surprised Flozell is ranked so high

we never really seemed to appreciate him that much

by DavidH22 on Jul 6, 2011 10:04 AM CDT reply actions

I for one did

Always thought he was an eilte LT in his prime

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jul 6, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions

I'd say he's the best left takle the Cowboys have ever had...

Rayfield Writght and Erik Williams were RTs

by rabblerousr on Jul 6, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Last night I watched ...

the 1970 NFC championship between the Boys and San Francisco (I was around then but I didn’t actually watch this game). The contrasts between the way the game was played then and the way it is now were pretty striking.

The 1970 Boys were:
(1) much less powerful in the lines – the heaviest were 250 lbs.

(2) pass/run blocking seemed much less effective, but whether this was due to the very different rules they played under, different blocking techniques taught then, or simply
because there were so few “wide-bodies” on the lines, I couldn’t tell. Regardless, the
holes were smaller and the QBs were under lots of pressure.

(question: when did the Power Game arrive in the NFL? Was it the ‘Skins and the
Hogs in the late 70’s? The Steelers?)

(3) the passing game was … how do I say this … anemic? Craig Morton was 2-12 at
half-time, with several drops. OK, Morton was pretty beat-up at the end of 1970. But at
half-time they reviewed the Colts-Raiders game. Some guy by the name of Unitas was
all of 4-16! Now in those days the DBs could practically mug the WRs with a tire iron
up and down the field, so I thought this must be due to the rules in force at the time. But
then they showed a reply isolated on the great Mel Renfro covering Gene Washington.
Mel stayed in his backpedal and didn’t touch GW once. It looked very “modern”. Maybe
the passing game wasn’t very sophisticated in 1970? I wonder.

(4) players “ran” to the line of scrimmage from the huddle! The game seemed to have
a faster pace in those days, but that’s just subjective.

(5) Duane Thomas looked like a smaller Jim Brown.

(6) I could see the advantage of the “Flexed” defensive front. On one play, a run
to the offensive right, Jethro Pugh dropped the RB in the backfield largely due the the
Center’s inability to reach him on a block – Jethro was flexed back from the O-line. It
really did mess with the OL’s blocking angles.

(7) shoulder pads were much smaller.

(8) Roger Staubach never got on the field despite Morton’s bad game.

(9) There was a lot less chatter from the announcers.

Regarding the above list: initially I thought Drew Pearson & Bob Hayes were too
far down on the list, but after reconsidering the importance of the great OL players
who rarely get the credit they deserve, I couldn’t really disagree that much.

First three are HOF’s. 5/10 are HOF’s.

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by Superchicken on Jul 6, 2011 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs

rec'd

and thanks

I am all in favor of a return of #9, and THIS time I ain’t talkin Romo… I hate the majority of today’s broadcasters.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Power running game

came back in early-mid 70s. After Landry evolved D to counter Packers sweep the next evolution of the game was a deevolution to three yards and a cloud of dust. I guess Steelers were best example, but many teams emulated an inside running game. Randy White and Bob Lilly for next list… Can’t wait to see thier numbers. Also, KD, do Jerry Rice and Barry Sanders have higher AVs than Emmitt?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Jul 6, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions

This is a great post. Thanks.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 6, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions

I remember when players used to sprint to the LOS after the huddle

I’m wondering if it was due to a shorter play clock

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions

It's like watching those Charlie Chaplin movies

I think people just moved faster back in the old days…..

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 6, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

discipline

thats the only explanation. even in a 30 sec play clock you can call a play, jog to the LOS, make a hard count or two and snap with about 8 seconds left

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 6, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions

AHHHHH

I may be alone here, but with all his crap aside, TO should definately be on this list. No one can deny what he brings to an offense. He’ll probably go down as one of the top ten receivers of all time.

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by harrim28 on Jul 6, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions

TO was a beast

just too short of a time in Dallas to be in the top 20. I’m only considering their Cowboys tenure.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions

no doubt TO was a monster here

too bad it was for two years

i wonder what stadium TO played best in because it always seemed he loved playing in texas stadium?

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 6, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions

TO's career AV....

is 169, but 37 in Dallas over 3 years. #2 among receivers.

by BVandy on Jul 8, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Landry didn't like big players

I remember seeing an interview with Bob Lilly, He talked about a conditioning run they had to do in camp. He said many of today’s players couldn’t do it because they are to big, and that coach Landry wanted everyone below a certain weight (<260 maybe – can’t remember). But yea, I remember when big was 235. Look at the LBs they had then 200-225. Lee Roy Jordan was a 220, Chuck Howley was ~225. As to TDs fumbles, I remember being on the play ground in 2nd-3rd grade talking about his fumbles. But what did I know then, he just may have had a fumble the day before (the attention span of a 3rd grader).

by Lumberjack90 on Jul 6, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions

yeah big and fat /= big and strong

you can be lean and be as strong as the bigger guy.

and you can run a bunch of outside plays and force them to run and when they get gassed then pound it right at them when they stand straight up on the snap

and o-linemen. we see how fat /= effective. our line right now is just too fat. they cant move they arent flexible

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jul 6, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd bet they move better than any offensive linemen from the 70s.

Those guys were not only small, but still and slow. Watching old games, I’m always struck by the huge leap in athleticism from then to now. I’m not sure many of those guys could play in the SEC, much less the NFL…

by rabblerousr on Jul 6, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I've noticed that as well

They do look stiff and slow. Sorta like an Eagles fan on Viagra….

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jul 6, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

wow Dunk

I almost spit my coffee out from that…rec’d

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by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 7, 2011 4:38 AM CDT up reply actions

My recollection

TD was such a great watch that no one noticed the fumbling. Frankly I’m astonished with the stat. I remember the Monday night game against the Vikes, when he took the handoff, saw some daylight and set the NFL record for the longest touchdown from scrimmage in NFL history. It truly was a thing of beauty like so many of his runs. He was so allusive he rarely took a clean shot from any defender. Great running back. I am also not at all surprised with the high grades given John Niland, Ralph Neely, Rafeal Wright, Eric Williams, Larry Allen, Pat Donovan, etc. I’ve always wondered why everyone else with the exception of Wright, who was long over do for election into the HOF, and I assume, Larry Allen, who is a first ballot HOFer, has been snubbed by the HOF voters. Many of these guys deserve to be in Canton.

by pfloyd1 on Jul 6, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions

Does AV undervalue TEs?

I am aware of the AV system, but haven’t delved into it deeply. In a cursory reading of the logic was that TEs are weighted low for the overall success of an offense, and this weighting detracts from their comparative value. Thus, Witten would come in low relative to some of the other positions. I might be too nostalgic, but I would think Doug Cosbie would come in higher on the list, especially when you consider how he compared to some of the other TEs of his era. He wasn’t in the Kellen Winslow or Ozzie Newsome class (well, maybe he was close to Ozzie) but he was certainly the best TE in the division as a pass-catcher. So, to answer the question, Witten is too low and I think one could argue that Cosbie was more relevant to the Cowboys’ offense than Dupree was, but Cosbie never played on a championship team, so the AV system tilts toward Dupree.

by Beltway Cowboy on Jul 6, 2011 2:30 PM CDT reply actions

Any list that has 5 linemen in the top ten gets a rec from me.

It is great to see a rating system that puts the blockers right up there with the “skill” players. And man, those OL names represent some beasts. About time to see their value recognized.

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by Tom Ryle on Jul 6, 2011 4:39 PM CDT reply actions

+1

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Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jul 6, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Witten is going to be a HOFer

he should have been top ten

Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith

by Lissyyyyy on Jul 6, 2011 9:24 PM CDT reply actions

based on an average AV of 10 a season

Witten would be seventh after the 2012 season.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 6, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm curious how you're going to measure the value of Dez Bryant, and to a lesser extent, Miles Austin and Tony Romo

as their careers aren’t complete, and Dez is just gettiing started. Arguably Dez might become the greatest WR we have ever had, or he might just bust, or anything in between. Will it be based on perceived potential or on his production already received projected out say 8-9 years?

by mdlusk on Jul 7, 2011 12:07 AM CDT reply actions

the formula I came up with for the 'games' should handle that

half of it will be fan voting, the other half will be based on career accumulation, which will put the current players with 3 or less years experience in their proper context, I hope.

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by KD Drummond on Jul 7, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions