New CBA might allow teams to cut contracts w/o salary cap hit

Been some rumors the new CBA might allow teams to cut players and not take a salary cap hit due to past bonuses carrying forward. This was called "dead money" and it sounds like it might go away. Makes sense because the rule punishes fans as much as owners Now if a team wants to cuts a player they can irrespective of future salary cap considerations. The owners did after all already pay the money and that they can’t undo. So why punish teams twice? If this really is going away then free agency just got a lot more interesting for the Boys as they can get rid of some bad contracts and grab some great players to replace them.

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As an Eagles fan, I hate this since they do a tremendous job with their cap and avoid doling out terrible contracts better than most teams. As a blogger, I love it, since it would make understanding/explaining contract much easier.

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by JimmyK on Jul 6, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions

haha on both accounts

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by thebigham on Jul 6, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Eagles great Cap just not at Super Bowls

There is something in the New CBA they can move money around and will not go towards cap both sides agreed part of the floor spend. Teams get rid of Dead Weight and players get paid no matter what more like guaranteed money to them if team is willing to pay them to go away…

Lots of players will get tossed out but will still get paid WAS: McNabb, Halynesworth, NY:S Andrews, OSI, PHI:Justice, Akers, DAL:RW, Barber, Davis, Columbo, Newman, Oshank, 30million on these players alone all for NFC East all well overpaid just to name a few that will have to restructure or go

Yes I am a Dallas Fan some of these contracts just got out of hand should dumped all these accept Newman last year when there was no cap hit.. Now 19 mill over and have to dump these players but still comes out of Jerrys Pocket must be nice to be a Billonaire LOL

by Bill Bates on Jul 16, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions

If this is true

then Roy Williams needs to be the first one out the door followed by Barber, Columbo etc..

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by thebigham on Jul 6, 2011 1:32 PM CDT reply actions

+11

Please oh please let this be true!!!

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by Cowboys_Attack on Jul 6, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I’d keep Colombo around as rookie insurance. His contract isn’t awful. But RW, MB3, and TNew would all be gone instantly.

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by JimmyK on Jul 6, 2011 7:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Wow

This makes sense, and yet, it really doesn’t. On the one hand, the NFLPA wouldn’t oppose it because players are still getting paid the money. On the other hand, it would make teams more prone to cut players, so the NFLPA would still have a reason to oppose it. That, and I think both sides are looking for a long-term solution—not some experimental cap-trick that they might have to go back and change because the NFLPA didn’t like how it turned out.

It’s a good thought, but I’d have to see it actually happen to believe it. Do you have a link to any articles/tweets as a source for the rumors?

by Admiral Dallas on Jul 6, 2011 3:31 PM CDT reply actions

http://nfllabor.com/2011/03/18/pash-proposal-to-players-offered-unprecedented-90-percent-of-salary-cap-in-cash/

I’ve seen it mentioned in a number of websites reporting on the latest CBA negotiations

Ironically the idea was introduced by players who wanted small market teams to spend more.

http://nfllabor.com/2011/03/18/pash-proposal-to-players-offered-unprecedented-90-percent-of-salary-cap-in-cash/

by livemontana on Jul 6, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions

Very interesting, thanks for the link

This article makes it seem almost imminent. I can see a lot of positives and drawbacks to something like this.

by Admiral Dallas on Jul 6, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

To me, this is almost like not having a cap at all. The way I look at it, is from a baseball perspective, where there is no cap. This is going to allow large market teams to bully the small market teams by signing guys to huge bonuses, paying them out, and then when they are ready to move on they just release them and have no penalty going forward. I understand you would still have a cap, and have to stay under that cap, but if it goes year by year, then what would prevent teams that can afford it, to sign guys to huge bonuses and having that bonus count for one or two years, and then signing the next guy and having their bonus count another year, am I making any sense?

What I am trying to say, is I could see large market teams signing players to huge bonuses, and smaller base salaries, so their big cap hit is only a year or two, similar to what Dallas did with Miles Austin. Then each year they could just hand out one or two huge bonus contracts, and all their previous players they’ve signed will only have their base salaries count.

I’d be shocked if the small market teams sign off on this, but I would rejoice if it happens, because I’ll be honest, I couldn’t care less how much money Jerry Jones spends, cause it doesn’t affect me, what I do care about is having money to sign guys each year, and this would take care of both of those things.

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by KJDH2154 on Jul 6, 2011 4:27 PM CDT reply actions

My thoughts exactly

This would be REALLY useful for the ‘boys this year, because we need to clear some cap space, but I don’t like what it does to football in the long run.

by Admiral Dallas on Jul 6, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions

small or large market

every team has the same cap ceiling and floor..

its the sayn it takes money to make money..
who want to see scrub out nobodies play?

its like when T.O. went to the bills.a fan base appear that was never seen before. or when dallas playd buffalo on monday night football..

nobody want to see un name losers..or a team with no lime life

by lostar2009 on Jul 6, 2011 7:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Every team would have the same ceiling and floor

But not every team can afford to keep signing players to huge signing bonus, releasing them without it counting against the cap yet still having to pay the money, only to keep signing more to huge signing bonuses.

In other words: the cap is there, but it essentially doesn’t matter, because teams in theory could just push all the money to the signing-bonus and then release the player without taking a cap-hit. So large-market teams are still at an advantage.

by Admiral Dallas on Jul 6, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions