Dallas Cowboys Training Camp Battles: The Young Offensive Line
by Kegbearer on Aug 1, 2011 8:03 PM CDT
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PrintThe new CBA has brought with it an opportunity for all the young offensive linemen on the Dallas Cowboys roster - wait, when was the last time you could say that? The young offensive linemen on the Cowboys roster have hit the ground running and are getting a lot of reps and attention from the coaches. With Doug Free and Kyle Kosier unable to participate until August 4th and Andre Gurode rehabbing a simple scope, rookie and sophomore linemen are getting 1st-team reps against the defense. In this situation, you either hear a lot of terrible news of linemen getting eaten up by DeMarcus Ware and the rest of Rob Ryan's gang, or you start hearing about the young guys holding their own...and thinking there is some talent on the field that could be ready to play sooner than expected.
Scout turned journalist, Bryan Broaddus had this to say over the weekend.
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Cowboys scouts have to love this Young, Arkin, Nagy and Smith were the OL in on that last play. Good work against a DC that is bringing it.
Sam Young, David Arkin, Phil Costa, Bill Nagy, and Tyron Smith are getting a lot of reps at training camp. The idea of starting a season with these five young guys would make most cringe, but having the opportunity to get rookies acclimated quickly and having time for the coaches to assess everyone's strengths, weaknesses, and current level of play is paramount. It could mean the difference between spending more of the dwindling cap space money on veteran linemen, and investing it in an additional safety signing (though there is plenty in-house to see before making a decision there as well).
Montrae Holland is the assumed starting guard opposite Kosier, but he is being pushed by both the coaches and the new guys. The Cowboys actually have competition for starting spots on the offensive line for the first time in...how many years? Even the top 10 pick and assumed starter is getting a run for his money as the role of the swing tackle in case of injury. There is competition all along the offensive line!
Interior Line
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Good reps by Arkin and Young back to back. Both with good sets then punch. Able to control rushers.
In fact, when BTB's Rabblerousr asked Broaddus if Arkin had a shot to start at some point this season Bryan responded...
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@rabblerousr There is plenty to like about Arkin and every rep he gets in practice against Rat and these veteran linebackers will help.
Bryan Broadduas was kind enough to answer my question as well, and he provided his take on Phil Costa and what he has shown in training camp thus far.
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@KegbearerBTB Not bad..working well with the other young OL men. Personally, I just wish he was bigger but no question of toughness + effort
Now, most will admit that Holland appears to be the leader for the starting guard spot, but if Arkin continues to display toughness and progress, not to mention the agility demanded by a mobile linemen to pull on counters and lead on screen plays...
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@g0osemahh Right now I think they will stick with Holland but he needs to try and improve his conditioning.
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Watching Holland in space on the screen reminds me of a cruise ship trying to get out of the harbour.
@espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
Montrae Holland isn't exactly built to get out in front on a screen pass.
The young offensive linemen continued to hold their own as the weekend progressed. So, considering some of Holland's wrinkles, I think Arkin has a real shot at fighting for a starting role. In any case, the competition for starting guard should be a fun one to watch develop in camp. If both Holland and Arkin continue to improve, and Nagy and Costa continue to show a tough side, the anticipated free agent signing for the interior o-line may never materialize.
The Tackles
Re-signing Doug Free to a four year contract was a well executed offseason priority. He will be a driving force on the line of scrimmage. But an offensive line needs more than just one capable tackle on the roster and it looks like the Cowboys may have the greatest depth at the position in years. More good news tweets from the San Antonio practices.
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watching these young OTs in this 2 minute drill, so far no major problems against Ware and Spencer...good sign
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@ABXXV25 Young with a nice job of sealing the edge in the 9 on 7 drill. Got some push at the point, Jones bounces behind him.
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@Cowboys4lyfe its one practice and one day but it was good to see Young have some good reps. Right now he is the swing OT.
It appears Young did replace Alex Barron on the depth chart in late 2010 for a reason, and he continues to show impressive play at practices. Right now most of the praise is for his run blocking skills, but he appears to be holding his own against the pass rush as well. Tyron Smith is learning his lessons against speed NFL rushers, and not everything is roses, but the staff is diligently working on the problems. These are young guys learning to play against the best in the NFL and they should get plenty of knowledge from veteran offensive line coach Hudson Houck and other team leaders.
@BryanBroaddusBryan Broaddus
Wrote about Tyron Smith needing to get out of his stance quicker. This morning Houck drilled him rep after rep to get feet quicker.
@espn_macmahonTim MacMahon
DeMarcus Ware has been working 1-on-1 with Tyron Smith since practice ended. Focus on footwork. That's a big ant he's leading to picnic.
@toddarcherTodd Archer
After struggling with their exchanges Sunday Jon Kitna and Bill Nagy taking extra work this AM.
It also appears that Coach Garrett's concentration on details and "approaching things the right way" is also making the line play better, some may say smarter, as a unit. This cohesion is what will make the difference between a spotty o-line with talent but mental errors and missed blocking assignments, and an effective o-line working as a unit to take over the line of scrimmage. Some signs are already showing improvement, even with the young guys on the field. And improvements from early work have already appeared.
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Romo using the hard count to trying to keep Ryan's defense from blitzing him to death. OL is holding in there not pulling a Flozell Adams.
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Smith much quicker out of his stance against Brandon Williams. Punch, set, no contest on two reps.
Right now the most likely starting five on the Cowboys offensive line would be Free - Kosier - Gurode - Holland - Smith, and the leading backups would be Young - Arkin - Costa. And reports from training camp are making the notion of this eight-man game-day group seem far better than once expected. As the coaches continue to have time with the young guys before some of the veterans begin to practice, the offensive line could be the youngest and feisty group to walk the halls of Valley Ranch in quite some time. There could even be another veteran signing to add some depth. I would be hard pressed to say the Cowboys offensive line hasn't finally been saved from a life on the brink. Sure, there will be some growing pains, but fresh lifeblood has been pumped into this offensive unit.
Broaddus' Scout's Eye piece caps off the good news as the team has put on pads and the real ability of a line is on exhibition.
Since Jason Garrett put the pads on the players on Saturday, Sam Young, Tyron Smith and David Arkin have been much more productive than when the team was just working in shells. In the 9-on-7 drill, which is all running and an advantage for the defense, this group was able to get push at the point of attack, allowing the backs to make simple reads attacking holes and creases.
Another example of this group's work was in the specialty period when Garrett had the offense working with limited time and trying to work the ball into field goal range. Young and Smith were left to deal with Ware and Spencer rushing off the edge. Both were able to hold their ground, play technique and not allow any type of pressure on Tony Romo. In this situation, pressure or a sack equals failure and neither surrendered.
It sounds like the Cowboys offensive line will not be a liability in the run game this year. That is good news, considering an effective passing game has become a standard in Garrett's offenses. If the offensive line allows Garrett to run his offense without having to cater to the abilities of the offensive line, without having to telegraph whether it will be a run or a pass, without having to shackle receiving threats to blocking assignments, without having to worry about allowing deep routes to develop or which direction to run, this will become a most formidable offense. And it seems Garrett is putting together a young offensive line that should be up to the task.
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It feels good just to read
“The Young Offensive Line” in the title.
by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Aug 1, 2011 8:11 PM CDT reply actions
Amen to that Joe
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
HAHA
It felt great every time I wrote it…
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
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Music to my ears
This is what most of us wanted to hear in the last few years and it looks like finally they are focusing more on the youngs guys and try and develop them instead of going the expensive FA route.
Sweet..
After hearing critics talk and talk about the age of our o line over the last few years this is refreshing
by scandrick32 on Aug 1, 2011 8:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
This is great, they rebuilt the line very quickly
Good to see Sam Young is delivering. I thought he’d be our RT this year but a swing tackle is very good for a 2nd year 6th round pick. Normally the Boys’ seem to carry about 10 offensive linemen. Who are shaping up as numbers 9 and 10?
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Parnell for one of those spots?
If he is still learning and improving.
Good call
In my excitement for the others I nearly forgot about him. Need to start checking up on his progress.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
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Kevin Kowalski, C/G, Toledo is supposed to be doing the best of the UDFA OL guys they brought in. Might make the practice squad.
Yeah
Seems he needs a lot of strength work (both upper and lower body) but he is agile and has good technique.
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Davis and Colombo were slow ....
out of their stance. Getting your hands on the defender before he gets his hand on you is the key to offensive line play. Davis was 2 steps slow last year. It would be huge to have agile linemen again not lunging but actually putting their pads on a defender.
My favorite lineman from the 90’s teams was Erik Williams. He was cat quick and nasty. It would be great to see nasty return.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
actually Davis did better after he was benched.
if you look at the games after he was benched then you’ll see improved a lot but +1 he wasnt getting any faster & was a huge liability in the run game.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
+1
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Heck ya on Erik Williams
You would always see that many downfield blocking for good ole 22
by DaStarShinesBright on Aug 2, 2011 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I just changed my pants after reading that, they got a little wet
man, hearing about a YOUNG offensive line and this young offensive line playing GOOD just makes my day
I told people Sam Young is no Robert Brewster, he is going to be something
I think Holland is a scrub who wouldnt start for 30 other teams, but other than that I love the way the OL is developing so far
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Holland thought he was going to stroll in camp & take some more free money at backup
dude had huge chance to atleast come in camp in shape & he couldn’t even do that. the RKG (Free, Kosier & even Gurode) managed not to come into camp overweight.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
has Holland ever shown up on weight? It’s been his whole career.
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i havent seen him
all offseason he was projected to either start for Kosier or Davis & he couldn’t care less
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
He's been on the Albert Haynesworth conditioning plan
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HAHAHAHA
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
cool well i hope he lands a job with the patriots
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Agreed on Holland.
I really don’t want to start the season with him at RG. I don’t trust him.
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its nice to read post that only mentioned FA's 1 time.
i dont think Holland is the RKG & coming in over weight is probably a good reason he won’t ever be a reliable starter.
Young must really be doing a great job bc i’ve heard a ton of good things about him this season. does anyone know if Young can play Guard?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
he is that tall but Bigg was 6’6… not that much different.
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
either way we do need a back up tackle, don’t be too quick to move him
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
And don’t be too quick to overlook Arkin, Costa, Nagy.
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i wasn't overlooking those guys.
i was just wondering if he was one of those OL that could play across the line.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
doubt it
he might be able to play guard…but I don’t see him as a Center….you want your C to be around 6’4…. I imagine
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
thats what i was asking without asking.
i meant a Guard/Tackle kinda like Yanda but not really Yanda… lol
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
figured as much...but wanted to make sure ya know?
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Bigg was also drafted to play LT
by CotySaxman on Aug 2, 2011 11:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Young is 6' 8"
to be exact….
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen some great 6'1' midget's that were great blockers and hall of famer's
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
wasn't Mark Stepnoski like 6-2?
he was pretty good… though I imagine that being Shorter would actually help an O-lineman…shorter making in easier to get “under” a DL for leverage….
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
tall doesnt make a good blocker
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
just for guards or does that include tackles?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
this fascination now in sports with tall baffles me.
I think if you’re good it doesn’t matter if your 6’0" or 6’8" . Either they can block or they cant.
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
Tall matters in terms of OTs
To the extent that teams want to know they can carry the requisite weight and still be agile enough. The downside to talll is making sure they can get low enough. Davis struggled with that at times as well.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2011 7:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ususally shorter OL don't have long arms.
Typically Tackles need long arms to beat speed rusher when they try to get the edge. Guards and Centers don’t have to deal with speed so they can be shorter.
by dallasgoesalltheway on Aug 2, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
although I am slightly surprised that Holland is still around.....
1 doesn’t fit the JG mold of lineman(smaller more agile)
2. came in overweight…thus probably not a true RKG
However those apparently are mitigated by the fact that he
1. will be a free agent next year….
2. is very cheap…
3 already knows the offense
4 allows Costa to man the C position while Gurode recovers
Starting Lineup:
LT-Free
LG-Arkin/Costa (toss up between these two)
C-Gurode
RG- Koisar
RT- Smith
Backups Young-Swing Tackle- though in practice it would be RT as Tyron would more than likely move to the LT spot,if (knock on wood) Free gets hurt…..
Costa /Arkin(loser of the LG starting spot), Holland(RG)
Costa -Center…..
Now there would be some shuffling around if a player (knock on wood) got injured….but I think this is how it will end up being…..
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
+1
I think you are right on the money. There is versatility to be found too, this is shaping up to be a good o-line if things go well.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
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and I completely forgot about Nagy too....
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd keep Kosier at LG
I’ve heard suggestions of moving Kosier to RG to avoid having 2 rookies next to each other, but I think that asking Kosier to change sides is worse than 2 rookies together. Even with a vet next to a rookie, if the rookie screws up the play is likely ruined. It’s not like they can talk during the play, and Kosier could still make the calls from the left side that the RG and RT can hear. Just my opinion.
well the reason for putting Koiser at RG would be to prevent the mistakes
you aren’t going to eliminate them completely but it should help to minimize them….
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
TR with time to throw
is a dangerous & beautiful thing
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yep...
All those CB’s that Philly has can’t cover forever…..
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Some might ask if they can tackle
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
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well Nnamdi is pretty good in that department from what I understand....
but Asante and DRC?….yeah… they are worse than Jenkins….OLE!
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
i think Asante is still pretty good.
he doesn’t play much press but he still gets the job done. from what i remember about DRC he was better then Jenkins all around. i’m not one thats concerned about the CB’s in Philly with recievers like Austin, Dez & Witten here in Dallas
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
true...
but from what I understand both Asante and DRC both went to the Deion Sanders School of Tackling….grab ahold and hope that help arrives…..
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah its hard to find great cover CBs that are willing tacklers
i guess when you find them either make them the highest paid at there position or sign them if you have cap space.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
I heard Asante was thrown at 35 times last year
and had 7 int’s I think.
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
don't know the total of Passes thrown at him...
but according to NFL.com he had 7 INT’s with 14 Passes Defended…so I imagine that 35 passes thrown at him would be a good estimation….
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
His nose for the ball is ridiculous.
It gets him in trouble sometimes too though.
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Samuel was...
thrown at 41 times. 19 passes completed. 7 INTs. 6 passes defensed. 24 tackles. 10 missed tackles.
Nnamdi can lay the wood.
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Dez vs Nnamdi
Can’t wait to see that matchup
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I think Dez can take him.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Or Miles.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
Dez is a tough reciever and
his " you can’t bring me down style" should pay dividends this year.
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
who looks better right now Arkin or Nagy?
a lot of the Wisconsin O-Linemen are athletic & can get down field to block
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
considering that we haven't heard much on Nagy
I would say Arkin….though Nagy does provide the C/G aspect, similar to Costa
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear more about Arkin
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
I watched some of the training camp videos
Yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to see the offensive line form this tight, well-defined pocket on most plays. A few jailbreaks, but nobody’s perfect. Most of the time the quarterback had time to go through a couple reads before throwing. Not that I’m a seasoned scout, but even to my untrained eyes, the line is looking goof.
And this is from our young backups. This might be the most encouraging thing I’ve seen on the team in a year or so.
I read it as good...so no big deal KB
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the best I've felt about the line in awhile.
I’m loving what I’m hearing about Young. It sucks for him though, because it seems like we have the two tackle spots locked down for many years to come! Maybe he can move in and earn himself a starting spot in a year or so.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
Build 'em and trade 'em, don't buy 'em
I like the way this team seems to be looking towards the future
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Aug 1, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
This team has more depth on the offensive side than I can ever remember.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
And if Free want a mint in four years....
well we have two quality starters behind him…..
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
i just hope it doesnt take to long to get it fixed
if you use FA the right way theres nothing wrong with bringing in an upgrade but its the contracts like Roy W that hurt this team. we missed out on a lot picks (or a whole draft) bc of signing him & it didn’t do one thing to make this team better.
signing FAs that make a difference are part of building a team even if there not yours. why pay your player top dollar if someone else has a better one for the same price. its all about the players you sign & not the system used to get them.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
well having 3 quality OT's is a good thing....
but yeah it does kinda suck for him….
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I just want the best players out there.
If Young is the best blocker out there, find a way to get him on the field!
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." -Niels Bohr
well we might see this in a couple of years...though I doubt it
LT-Smith
LG-Arkin
C- Costa
RG- Nagy
RT- Young
it could happen….
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
why is Free not on this list?
Did he just suddenly start sucking?
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
he was traded a year before his contract was up bc Smith & Young were so great
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
well this must be fantasy land cause Jerry dont do that .
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
No, just stating that we might see this sometime in the future
this is the NFL….anything can happen…
Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 1, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
thats a lot of stock to put in players that were drafted late or not drafted at all.
anythings possible & that sceniro would allow Dallas a lot of cap money to spend else where.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Never thought I would hear the words young and Dallas O-line in the same sentance as long as Jerry was GM.
It may not be a great year but its better than being old, sucking, and no future in sight.
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
ARKIN!
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
ok who knows the skinny on Goldson?
i read some FA rankings, a couple articles about him doing pretty decent with the 49ers but i rarely see them play. i’m going to be honest after i read Elam was a sex offender i couldn’t care less to see him in Dallas. even Cleveland doesn’t want him back which comes at a surprise bc he’s cheap & just who the heck do they have at Safety.
Goldson & Pool are looking better everyday. at this point i would take Goldson & Sensi
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
I haven't read that about Elam. What's the scoop?
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
dude is a registered sex offender but the "details" were murkey about the crime so he's getting a pass
then on his twitter account some Dallas fans were acting like school girls telling to pack his bags & get here. his response was something like “cut or sign the MF check”
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
i can't see JG letting that dude play on his team.
i couldn’t take anything JG said seriously if he allowed that bum to play with a star on his helmet.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Here's some details...
I’ve heard him speak, he sounds like a good guy, and he’s really active with his foundation.
I’m not tending to believe that we’d stay away from the guy based on this charge of “groping”…
I have noticed a new resurgence in Cowboy hating in 2007, which can only mean one thing- We're back.
Thanks for the link. An interesting story to say the least.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
Here's a classy one
Can’t wait
So who are Iggles fans gonna blame this year after their team chokes yet again? Reid? Vick? Or maybe your new genius Defensive Coordinator…..oh wait, he coached defense in high school…..LMFAO!!! I can’t wait until cry-baby DRC, overrated Nnamdhi, overhyped Jenkins and Babin-the-Bust start pointing fingers at one another.
Who’s playing LB? What about Safety? Witten and Philips will eat them up all day!!!!
Can’t wait for another choke by the choke-artists of the NFL!!! Scum.
by maxdallasfan on Aug 1, 2011 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
The Jruth shall be told.
Are you on the wrong blog?
Or are you just baiting?
No. I've got a space shuttle at NASA. If I'd wanted to get away, I would've just jumped on that and went to Mars. But the gas is expensive right now, so I decided California was probably the second best option. - Terrence Newman
no I just read your Terms a few days ago and I believe one is to behave yourself on other sites… just thought I’d let you know. Not trying to instigate anything or talk any smack at all.
The Jruth shall be told.
we’ve had 10000000 annoying comments like this in the past 3 days and I’m sick of it so this is what I’m resorting to
The Jruth shall be told.
No prob,
We get lots of trolls over here too, so we know what it’s like
No. I've got a space shuttle at NASA. If I'd wanted to get away, I would've just jumped on that and went to Mars. But the gas is expensive right now, so I decided California was probably the second best option. - Terrence Newman
he doesn’t post on this board, so find him elsewhere
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He isn't from BTB
Sometimes people can create phony accounts to create flame wars and try to discredit a team’s fans by association. That’s what sounds like here.
you all get trolls that are cowboy fans
and we get trolls that are Eagles fans. I don’t understand the hype on this one person?
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
This is just what I’m starting to do with everyone from now on. I’m honestly sick of it I just want to have decent conversations and now this dude has ruined our thread just because he wants to get all cocky and talk some trash.
The Jruth shall be told.
why not just ban him?
I dont like trolls
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
just ignore him & they go away quick.
if no one takes the bait then they have no reason to post ignorant things
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Don't bring that crap here though.
We don’t know the guy hiding behind another account.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
Again, we've been getting your trolls over here too so it's hard to feel too sorry.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Dude, Eagles fans have been trolling the hell out of this board for the last week.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
who is maxdallasfan?
check out my bands nanoSMASH and Day vs Night
by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Never heard of him
"You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a 2x4." -- Dan Birdwell, Oakland Raiders
"A computer once beat me at chess... but it was no match for me at kick-boxing." --Emo Philips
sounds like Bait! Jerry has bait in the water as we speak
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
I think he might need to check his line.
Looks like the bait has been eaten.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
wow this is random
packimop I don’t get the relevance of throwing this out of no where ?
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
some dude is trolling the eagles site & he thought it was someone over here
i dont think it was nothing personal & it was obviously a troll
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Have you guys seen this from Cullen Jenkins on Twitter?
Talk is cheap. Let them talk. We are focused here and I could care less. We are worried about ourselves n getting better. He must be nervous
You know what, youre pretty fu***** cheap for leaving the packers for a team that hasn’t won a championship the past decade!
Rob Ryan: "I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them."
In respsonse to my signature
Rob Ryan: "I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them."
that is funny but either way, I’d still favor Green Bay and New Orleans for the NFC Title right now. Especially if NO figures some way to help their D. Their O should be dynamic.
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok first he said talk is cheap and then threw in a barb himself.
All this crap is nothing except it should make for some great football this year.
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
Agreed. I tend to agree with Rob Ryan.
They don’t deserve all of this hype with just a couple of acquisitions. Anything can happen.
Rob Ryan: "I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them."
Jenkins wasn't even a big name on the Packers!
Raji and Mattews anchored the defense. SHADDD UP CULLEN.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
The past decade?
Try ever lol.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I already posted this on other thread but:
Hey Fellas…
This is my first post on here, been following and just wanted to introduce myself
Rob Ryan:
"I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them."
Rob Ryan: "I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them."
by TxSportsFan on Aug 1, 2011 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You want more recs don't you?
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
I'm good. Just wanted to introduce myself for people who didn't see it on other thread
Rob Ryan: "I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them."
Twas a joke my friend.
Welcome.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
Yes, welcome. That was pretty good that you got a green on your first post.
Hope that you don’t mind that I stole your sig.
July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!
"I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them." - Rob Ryan
I took the longer version lol.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
Great quote to pick up
I saw the intro on the other thread as well, and welcome.
Did you know, though, that Jeterian…uh, DCYanks21 had already put that quote up as a FanShot?
Cowboys, Longhorns, and Spurs - all undefeated in 2011-12.
I'm well known if people remember my old username.
haha
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
I came to the conclusion that I don't like trades in football.
Don’t happen often either. Probably because of learning playbooks and stuff.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
already more trades this year than I can ever recall
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 1, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
yea I cant remember this much dealing in the past 30 years or so
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
It makes sense.
Playbooks are going to be hard to learn right away anyways. Might as well get the player we want.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
Im a patient person, really am but
This safety stuff is starting to really bug me
Pretty soon the few left overs will get signed if the cowboys dont act.
Elam is the only one Im excited about. I have NFl sunday ticket and have seen him play, he always seemed to be around the ball, making plays. but if they wait around much longer someone else will sign him.
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
I have Sunday ticket too.
I think all Direct T.v. owners this year get it free.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
I think thats only for newcomers
From what I understand if your not a current Direct Tv customer, when you switch to them you get that along among other things for joining.
They have to pay so much for those games, no way they would give it away free for a year to everyone
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Aug 1, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That's BS.
Why don’t loyal customers get it free? DEION TOLD ME SO AS A FAIRY!
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
Loyalty is no longer rewarded in the business world.
They turn the blind eye to that now. It’s all about how many “new” customers they sign up, regardless of how many “loyal” customers they piss off.
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
It’s sad really, customer service has gone down the drain and companies are getting a little ridiculous with all the hidden fees they’ve been doling out.
How about the airlines keeping ticket prices the same and pocketing the profits now that Congress killed the FAA budget and stopped collecting the tax?
July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!
"I don’t know if we win all-hype team. That might have gone to someone else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them." - Rob Ryan
If you've had Directv for several years, and have bought the Sunday ticket before
Call them and tell them that. Its worked for two of my friends, both of whom were significantly discounted on there renewal price when they complained about new signees getting the free service.
threaten to walk, and they;ll get you to retention, they generally cut you a deal.
*To be fair, I had one buddy who they said – “Ok sir, sorry to hear you’ll be leaving us”, LOL, so he had to puss out at the last minute.
I just got Directv – its cool so far, but the Sunday ticket will be phenomenal I’m told. I also just built a room with a 118" screen, projector, and full surround sound…. football is gonna be awesome this year.
I'll tell my Dad to do so.
living in NY I need it even with Dallas’ 5-6 prime time games a year it’s worth it.
Just hope they don’t let us walk and we have to puss out like your friend lol.
Oh when the Cowboys aren’t on use Red Zone. OR just watch the best match up on currently.
"I've got three bullies over there waiting for Thursday," Rob Ryan said. "These are proven players, and that's what we need. I don't know if we win the all-hype team, I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we're going to beat their ass when we play them."
Every year they offer more and more to get ppl to join yet
their loyal customers get Jack! My basic package cost more last year than before, yet they were giving new customers the best package for half my price. I called and complained but it didnt do any good because Im locked into a contract for another year.
If they offered a version of sunday ticket where you only got all of one teams games instead of every single game they could get so many more customers, but no they wont do that, they charge more for overkill
"Don't fake the funk on a nasty dunk"
by sprewelllatrell on Aug 1, 2011 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
This is very comforting
Looks as though we won’t have to worry about the OL for the forseeable future. What a relief! Thanks for the info Keg.
Reading this has left me both warm and fuzzy
Young, coached, disciplined, progressing quickly. All music to my ears.
So our DL isn't looking so great, then?
I’m pretty nervous that Rat has slimmed down even more, when he was already getting pushed around. I’m glad we resigned Spears, but not so excited about every other DE we have. Seems like a bunch of scrubs to me. Is Josh Brent still on the team? I haven’t seen his name mentioned anywhere in the practice recaps.
It’s good to hear that our young offensive linemen are looking solid, but offense wasn’t our problem last year. It’s more disconcerting to me that our veteran DL is not taking their lunch.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 1, 2011 10:35 PM CDT reply actions
On Josh Brent
@BryanBroaddus
Bryan Broaddus
@UrbanPharmer Josh Brent is one of my favorite players. On any other team he might be a starter. Just love the way he plays with power.
@BryanBroaddus
Bryan Broaddus
@CoreyGrodner Big fan of Josh Brent. Know scout buddies that are always asking me how he is playing. Hard guy to slow down when on move.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
I think our DLine will be just fine. Sure, perhaps not the greatest to be assembled, but Rat has laready been seen lined up everywhere on the line and even standing up. Brent and Spears can 2gap nose also. Ryan does have more power d-linemen and I don’t these guys will set sack records, but they hold up doing what Ryan asks of them.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
That's always the double-edged sword from TC, isn't it?
If Romo and the WR’s are doing so great, what’s wrong with the DB’s?
If this young OL is protecting Romo so well, what’s up with Ryan’s fancy blitzes? And why aren’t Ware and Spencer eating these guys up?
You can never win.
But in CowboyLand, young OLinemen actually looking like real NFL-Quality players is what we’ve been waiting for, so I think that’s what everyone is focused on, and I’ll sure take it!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Aug 2, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Josh Brent made the highlights by swimming past Bill Nagy to sack Jon Kitna,. Kitna was only two steps into his backpedal when Brent engulfed him.
Hmmm.
I’m somewhat confused. The reports on the OL and the reports on Brent, Rat, and Ware seem to contradict each other.
Is Spencer in camp yet?
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 2, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
How do they contradict each other?
Nagy is needing some work, IMO he needs a year of strength training and learning. But in this instance Brent blew past him with basically no pause and would have sacked Kitna. As Nagy is playing C for the 2nd string OL.
And yes, Raf has mentioned Spencer in his reports. I fanshot them daily if you need a link.
Keg, caught a typo...
It appears Young did replace Alex Barron on the depth chart in late 2009 for a reason…
I thought that Barron came to the Cowboys in the Carpenter trade (early 2010). I don’t think he was here in ’09.
Cowboys, Longhorns, and Spurs - all undefeated in 2011-12.
Thanks
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
#PhilCosta
Good to see the work paying off. Hat tip to Rat for the after practice help last year. Would love to see a fellow Terp on the O-line for the next 10 years or so.
As fellow Terp
I hope Costa never sees the light of day. If he does, very bad things have happened.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 2, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't agree with that.
Phil and the young guns on the line will get it done.
Tyron looks like he’s poised to break out at right tackle – if you can handle DeMarcus Ware on even a semi consistent basis you should be good to go on the right side.
Costa, Young, and maybe even Nagy all seem like really high quality backup lineman for now.
What I really love about these guys is that they’re RKGs – they’ve all won awards for being outstanding players, people, and lineman in their collegiate careers and all of that hard work and preparation just carried over into their NFL careers as well.
I think Jason Garrett might be onto something …
this is what I am seeing this year O line
get Brain Waters from KC sign him to one year mimium
He said he would like to play at least one more season.
"There are some good teams out there that have a chance to win the Super Bowl,’’ Waters said. "It’s just a matter of what opportunities come along.’’
Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/07/28/3043788/chiefs-release-guard-waters.html#ixzz1TqbJvlp3
Starting Lineup:
LT-Free
LG-Kosierr
C-Gurode – Costa
RG- Waters
RT- Smith
"Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?"
Not trying to be negative, but...
Do you really, truly, think this team is likely to win the Super Bowl this year? Waters is more likely to go to a team like the Eagles, that were in the playoffs last year and have a lot young, talented players, plus added some high profile free agents this year. Additionally, they have an established head coach and system that have been successful for years.
I love the Cowboys, but realistically, a lot of improbable things would have to happen for them to win the SB this year. They haven’t improved talent-wise at any single position group on the team, and they were 6-10 last year. They might get an extra 2 wins from coaching, but there’s only so much you can do without players.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 2, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
the schedule doesn't look any easier than the Philly schedule as well.
Soup dude I agree :) . Waters will most likely go to a contendar.
"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."
Trying to find the silver lining here
But not succeeding.
Starting a rookie tackle in the NFC east will have more downs than ups. My only hope is Smith doesn’t get Romo injured.
Late rounders and UDFA’s trying to beat out an out of shape Holland doesn’t seem all that positive either.
When Kosier gets hurt are we going to roll out Holland and Arkin at guards? This o-line has issues.
Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.
Sorry to rain on this parade
but listening to several other people who have watched every practice they are not as high on young or Arkin. Young is destroyed every time Demarcus goes near him; and Butler has eaten his lunch all day long as well. And lets be realistic; they are the only outside rushers that are good on this whole team.
Arkin is just too light; the Rat chews him up but so did Brent; when he comes up against the big DTs and NTs his light weight will put him in the same boat as Kosier; only he does not have Kosier’s experience. He will need to build strenght and weight over this next year.
Wihtout pads, and especially on one-on-one drills, the defensive pass rushers have all the advantage. I am most happy hearing that with pads and as a group these young guys have helld their own. I see what you are saying, but at the same time, how many tackles in light contact going against Ware 1-on-1 will not get abused more often than not?
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On the opposite side, Sam Young is looking like a bonafide swing tackle. He worked at his familiar right tackle spot the two days the Cowboys were in shorts, but has played exclusively on the left side while Smith is given the chance to settle in at his college spot. When the first offense is in, the edges have been contained, for the most part. Rob Ryan gets rushers in with scheme, but the kids are not being overpowered. Yesterday, they also began to dial in a lot of the blitzes. Tony Romo and Jon Kitna are still being pressured, but they have to time to find targets the pass more than five yards upfield.
Keep your fingers crossed for rookie left guard David Arkin, who is also taking advantage of his reps. He’s mixing it up inside with all the nose tackles put over him. I don’t think he’s close to being starting material, but he’s looking like a player.
The rookie linemen David Arkin and Tyron Smith also had their moments. Arkin turned Jay Ratliff on one stretch play to his side, helping create a nice-sized running lane for the back. On the right side, Smith handed Sean Lissemore the entire drill.
Good finds!
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
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Young is my biggest pleasant surprise
Nice gind considering what was written about him
Sure these guys are green, but at least they aren’t booking hotel rooms through their AARP memebership.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Aug 2, 2011 7:20 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
These new practice rules suck
that pic looks like a bouncer trying to throw a rowdy out of a bar.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Aug 2, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
Good to hear positive reports
Especially on Young, who I thought looked horrible last pre-season, and Arkin who I was worried wouldn’t be strong enough yet to challenge for a spot.
Costa was the coach’s favorite last season out of the rookie pool, so I wasn’t worried about him. But nice to hear he still looks good. Plus he’s the only one who could step in for Gurode.
Depth at all 3 positions, good stuff.
Doug "Fresh " Free, Cowboys' newest millionaire.
Kevin Gogan was a played guard
At 6-7 320
I don’t see why Young can’t play guard
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