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Cowboys Complete Clutch Comeback, Corral Broncos 24-23

As I tweeted right after the game, only the Cowboys can make a preseason game that exciting. With time winding down in the fourth quarter, on fourth down no less, Stephen McGee found rookie Dwayne Harris in the end zone for their second connection of the night. That score brought the Cowboys within one, and with absolutely no interest in playing preseason overtime, new head coach Jason Garrett went for two. McGee continued to carry over the clutchness we saw in week 17 of last season and successfully completed the two point conversion for a thrilling comeback victory in a supposedly meaningless preseason game.

If you saw the smiling and joy beaming from everyone, Garrett on down, you know the win wasn't trivial. Don't get me wrong, there were many areas of the game in which the team needs to continue improvement. We are still miles away from wiping off the 2010 stench. However, wins are good for the soul, any time, any place. Comeback wins are better, and comebacks with two point conversions can turn a preseason game into a regular feel good moment. After the lockout threatened to drain the joy of being a football fan from all of us, and an offseason where we had to hear about a rival team winning the paper championship, this just felt good.

Follow the jump for some snap analysis on the good and the bad.

Star-divide

1st Team Defense Summary (One Drive)-

Bailey kicks off from the 35 and gets a touchback, as is every other kicker in the first set of games. Kickoff returns are a thing of the past.

Started off well with a batted pass by DeMarcus Ware and a Sean Lee tackle, but quickly reverted to ‘rut roh'. It would be a comedy of errors if it wasn't so eerily similar to the start last season. The Broncos marched down the field amidst missed assignments and tackles by the Cowboys, then inexplicably called a pass play on first and goal. Bryan McCann defended a fade, then Marcus Spears and Jason Hatcher were able to penetrate and force a field goal attempt. Broncos lead 3-0.

 

1st Team Offense Summary (One Drive)-

Felix Jones is bottled up on the left side trying to run behind Arkin. 2nd and 9, Chris Gronkowski with a catch and run on a Romo rollout for a first down. 1st and 10 again from the 32, shotgun, quick curl to Witten for 6 yards. Next play is a big one. Felix with a big run after breaking tackle, gain of 18. Definite wow play. That was followed by another run by Felix for 4. A screen pass to Felix in the left flat breaks him free for 16 yards. Insert your favorite preseason qualifier, but Felix looks really good early. Shiftiness, vision and power.

Lonyae Miller in the game, tries to run behind Arkin and gets nothing. Arkin and Costa (snap judgement) looked to struggle in getting a push. Romo drops back, pass off of Witten's fingers- should have been caught off first glance. 3rd down, pressure on Romo, skips a pass to Dez Bryant. Beuhler squeaks a field goal inside the upright, looked like he missed at first.  No passes in Miles Austin direction, no catchables for Bryant.

Other Quick Notes-

-- Romo's back. He's still good.

-- Victor Butler wants more playing time, and will get it with Rob Ryan. He made a number of plays and was always around the ball. Impressive game by Butler, run stops and QB pressures.

-- Jason Hatcher showed up on a few plays, goal line flush plus a couple other QB pressures.

-- The Cowboys offensive line backups are not good at the moment. Yes, I'm being extremely kind because I'm buzzing from the win. Stephen McGee got absolutely no time when he first entered the game. I'd love to talk about Tyron Smith, but I need a DVR session to dive into it. I believe he gave up a sack, but didn't fare too badly.

-- There were a handful of his early plays when McGee had time, but his rust showed. A poster in the open thread made a joke after one play that he checked down to a sack. But that was early.

-- If you can actually project anything out of a first preseason game, the Cowboys have a quality wide receiver corps. Kevin Ogletree did nothing to embarass himself as an NFL slot receiver, although there was a play where he appeared to pick his own man. That turned into an interception for the Broncos. Tysson Poots and Dwayne Harris, who we'll get to shortly, made big plays for the team. Poots made a crucial third down snag that he had to get low for, very impressive first catch for a UDFA.

-- Raymond Radway scored a touchdown and had a great kickoff return, but he is a long way from making the squad as a receiver. On his touchdown catch, he caught the ball in his body, instead of with his hands. There were also two big route mistakes where he looked to have big plays just waiting for him. Snap judgement, good burst and seperation, but all other aspects of receiving need major work.

-- Dwayne Harris is a boss. Excuse the slang, but that dude can straight up ball. Harris came across the middle catching a short pass, then turned up the field and jetted to the end zone 76 yards later. It was 'Felix Jones break away' reminiscent. Then he turned around and made other big catches, including the games final touchdown that set up the two point conversion. Five catches, 126 yards, two touchdowns. Insert your own accolades in the comments.

-- Lonyae Miller struggled to find any running room, but he did look a bit tentative out there. Nothing like what has been reported out of training camp. Phillip Tanner looked really good, running hard, kept his feet moving after contact. Not sure about his final totals, but at one point was at seven carries for 42 yards, six a carry. Crowded backfield developing in Big D.

-- McGee is clutch, don't question it, just go with it. He led the Cowboys to touchdowns on his final three drives, bringing the team from behind each time. The first score, was the first he was afforded time in the pocket and he was finally able to start getting the ball to his recievers. It wasn't real pretty up until the middle of the third quarter. He followed it with the short catch and long run to Harris, and then led a final comeback drive that included two fourth down conversions. That included the game winning score with 15 seconds left on fourth and goal, after taking a bad sack on third down. McGee was seen telling Dwayne Harris he messed up, then found him in the end zone to bring the team within one. He then completed the two point conversion to Martin Rucker.

-- Speaking of Rucker, let's give some credit to John Garrett. Cowboys tight ends all around are just damn good. John Phillips made plays, and Rucker caught the first fourth down conversion as McGee hit him with a quick strike over the defender, in stride.Martellus Bennett tweaked his hammy earlier in the week and didn't play.

-- Obviously couldn't see DeMarco Murray or Bruce Carter in action. Josh Thomas repped well, returning after an injury and making a play on a pass in the end zone. I remember one Shaun Chapas catch; he looked nervous on the play. Dwayne Harris, boss. Need to see the tape on Arkin and Nagy.

-- I hope the NFL Competition Committee invokes an emergency session. The league really needs to reconsider moving the kickoff up to the 35. Kickoff returns were few and far between, not just in our game but around the entire league. One of the most exciting plays in football has been eliminated, as I think the only returns were because coaches told kickers to allow the coverage units to get some air under their feet.

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McGee is one clutch son of a gun

Nothing like the guy in the first half. We need to see more reps with a credible Oline

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

McGee has everything except

speed of decision-making. Once that clicks for him, he’ll be really good.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 11, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Risk is that for some QB's it never clicks

Hopefully it does for him – they have invested a fair bit of time so the coaches must think he has the potential to be a starter -

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by BoyfromOz on Aug 12, 2011 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

processing information quickly

is the difference between the star, franchise qbs and also rans. Hopefully it does happen at some point.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 12, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that mental quickness has to come from meaningful reps

with meaningful being game speed. Some guys get them in college and we know McGee didn’t. If he can speed that up he’s got some tools.

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With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Aug 12, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

mcgee had it then lost it

wasnt his freshamn year behind reggie mcneal? then his sophomore year he passes/rushes for 1000 yds i believe and then he splits time with jerrod johnson his junior year and gets the starting gig back his senior year

definitely he has tools but A&M just lacks recruiting power to put together a powerhouse. Mcgee really didnt have much help. No offense but A&M is one of the few “big” schools who started caucasians at CB, WR, and Safety simultaneuosly. again not trying to be a jerk but none of those guys had a chance at the pros let alone be all-big-12 team

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 12, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I thought he was slow. Couple times the announcers commented that he took sacks when he had open guys he didn’t see.

He's good, but he's no Danny White!

by Shaymer on Aug 12, 2011 11:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We all had this exact same conversation last preseason. ^^^

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by fs65 on Aug 13, 2011 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

wasnt impressed much on the ...

2ndary and again sense looks slooow lol. lonyea miller looks slow a foot unlike tanner who looked rather quick. butler,mcgee, harris, our o-line pass def, all looked good to me.

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by demonbane on Aug 11, 2011 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Pass Rush= good. Pass coverage= needs improvement.

He's good, but he's no Danny White!

by Shaymer on Aug 12, 2011 11:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

good win...

very impressed with harris…Lord willin…with him in the slot, we could really do some damage….i hope he leapfrogs ogletree at some point this year….

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by Tuna Helper on Aug 11, 2011 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Great summary

like most of us, I spent the game dodging viruses and watching the game in a series of internet snapshots instead of full motion video. So I’ll have to go with this. The ESPN recap says the defense is a work in progress and many of last year’s mental defects are still present for duty, but at least Rob now knows what to yell about.

I think Smith looked good. You know, in internet still frames, but the rest of the line is a little behind the power curve. Overall, the O is ahead of the D and I think we all know that needs to change somewhat.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 11, 2011 11:45 PM CDT reply actions  

sorry dude

if I had a good site for you I would hook you up but I dont even look for them now

come the regular season, I will need a feed tho

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 12, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Game Rewind? Audio Pass?

You can get all the game broadcasts, after the games are over, or listen live to the radio broadcasts. Which one are you talking about, or is there something I haven’t come across yet?

by kindablue on Aug 12, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, when bandwidth is not a problem, these two are good:

http://firstrowsports.tv/sport/american-football.html
http://www.sportwebz.com/

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dunk, I thought you never left your lazyboy

What exactly do you mean by “on the road” … I’m guessing it’s not the path to your beer fridge… maybe a weekend at your in-laws?

(fs65, thanks for those links :)

I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)

by DalaiLuke on Aug 12, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Got it too. Love it.

Rewatched the game this morning.

He's good, but he's no Danny White!

by Shaymer on Aug 12, 2011 1:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Eagles Fan Here

Nice conversion to pull off the win. Congrats. .But can we chill with the “paper champs” comments?! If u guys check out BGN, nobody over there is saying we’re definately winning anything. (Except for a few new bandwagoners). And they annoy us too. Trust me. We know nothing is a given,and its a looooong season. And Rex over in Washigton says they’re winning the east anyway!! Good luck this season guys

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 12, 2011 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck to you too.

And maybe we will both be undefeated prior to the first matchup in Philly. In any case, the “paper champs” comments are more or less ESPN’s fault. But what are you going to do when it comes to making a profit, let the storylines write themselves?

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by Jessy S on Aug 12, 2011 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good Point.

I just hate the media jumping to conclusions. Look wut it did to the Heat. Lebron was asking for it tho. And although DeSean is a hot dog,he does make some excitng plays. We will tolerate him and his swagger for now,but not every bird fan is a fan of it. On another note; What is up w/ your Twins this yr?? Good lord!

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 12, 2011 3:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

just keep the hype machine away from dallas

dallas definitely doesnt need anymore spotlight. kinda glad they went 6-10 last year so people stop worrying about “the super bowl run” that never comes to fruition

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 12, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

word

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can't seem to open the link

Can u cut and paste? Im not one to run from what i say. And if im wrong i will admit so. I think my smart phone isnt as smart as it thinks it is

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 12, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well?????

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 14, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well?????

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 14, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The links in KD's signature are not about the dream team. They are to his blogs and twitter.

But being a philly fan, you really have not seen the press conference where Vince Young calls the eagles a dream team?

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by fs65 on Aug 15, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

No i havent seen it

I’m actually recovering from major surgery so i sleep a lot. All i have is my phone. I cant even lift my laptop. I’m sure you’ve seen every single cowboy back up QB interview in history though.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 15, 2011 5:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was his initial interview from camp on NFLN

I’m not searching for it because it isn’t that important… I saw it live when it happened. That’s what spawned all the dream team talk, and the opportunistic media has ran with it.

feel free to google vince young dream team

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by KD Drummond on Aug 15, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will be sure to do so. Thank u

And for the record,im not in agreement with the signing of Young . Career wise hes 42tds/42ins,with a below 80 career qb rating. He does have 12 rushing tds so perhaps that will come into play with our redzone woes. We shall see.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 15, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chilled like a cold one

Dunta, asked you something in another thread. Cut-and-paste here for ease. If you need more context than this (thread was about Asante being “happy” given the CB situation in Philly), the link’s provided. The rivals thing being what it is, good luck on the injury-free, competitive season, not so much on the wins thing. You sound like the kinda fan that’ll understand. btw, you prefer Dunta or Diap?
-——
 This.

Plus, happy or not, that’s a sweet triple to throw at nickel. Question is, which one goes slot on that down? Considering skills and egos, I’d suspect DRC, unless Castillo moves Aso inside for that down. Sure there’s debate on the slot guy being the high-priced talent being used inside as they’re usually covering high-priced talent at WR and all that, but it’s silliness in my view. You do what works.

Especially come Oct 30th, when the matchup’s Samuels/Aso/DRC vs Austin/JW/Bryant.

So, most likely, I’d say DRC inside, sometimes (given circumstances) possibly Aso. #1 receivers shift around, just like CB’s, so it’s all situationally dependent and based on skill and practice. A good player lets go of the ego. Whoever it is, playing us, he’d best be ready to tackle because that’s no average TE you’re up against (yep, had to get it in).

What’s your call, Dunta? Or what you hear in Eagles country?

Then again, this could be my twisted wish-fulfillment of seeing JW run someone over. Could backfire, though.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Aug 12, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dunta is the name.

And we will be lining up in the 8/3 defense! LOL…And 10-30-11 should be one for the record books. DRC will play the slot and deal with the TE. Since Bradley is gone,im still not positive who will be starting at MLB.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 12, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

This begs the question

If we go 3 wide with a TE, who covers the slot, and who covers JW? Or if we go with a 2-TE set, with Bennett and Witten? What if we motion the WR inside the TE (maybe even on both sides), who covers who? Can a LB cover Felix out of the backfield?

I’m looking forward the huge chess match in October. Lots of moving parts and interesting matchups.

by mdlusk on Aug 12, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunta it is

Thanks for your info. Yeah, you guys sort out your inside LB’s it’ll go a long way to maybe rectifying one of the exposed weaknesses. Naturally, I’d rather someone like Witten go to town on your best, not an “excuse” unit. Hope the fan-ribbing way I’m saying that comes across, as you seem a decent sort. And like mdlusk’s said, look forward to a real chess match, but one with some smashmouth in addition to the skill display, to it. More commonly known as Cowboys/Eagles.

Look forward to seeing you Cowboys/Eagles week.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Aug 12, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Im actually conversing with cowboy fans! LOL! I feel like I’m cheating on my wife.(If i had one)! Seriously though,i’ll check in as long as I am welcome. Good day.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 12, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Football fans,...

… like you, are welcome anywhere, anytime. Only diff between us and them is they ain’t learned the error of their ways. Yet. Something any football fan can say, no matter the color of his or her jersey.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Aug 12, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're always welcome when you have a civil conversation. Just ask JimmyK.

You’ll find that BTBs has very few idiots. Now, dallascowboysDOTcom, that’s a whole-nother story.

I bet you that less than 10% of us here go to that website.

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by fs65 on Aug 13, 2011 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, and luck to you too.

We are not saying that you fans at BGN are the ones saying you’re going to win it all. And we never said in the past that we were going to win it all.

The media, especially BSPN, are the ones that make those predictions and label teams. We have no control over what the media says. We are just saying now you know what it feels like, and good luck with that.

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"I did a couple of push-ups, grabbed a couple of protein shakes and said, I'm ready to do it, Coach!" - Victor Butler

by fs65 on Aug 13, 2011 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear ya man.

I don’t see how the extra pressure from the press is going to help things at all.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 13, 2011 4:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy, but thinking about this just now

I think they need to take it back next season. It completely wipes out a whole aspect of the game.

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 11, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

But the NFL can call an emergency Owners conference call and change the rules if they have an adverse effect on the game. It isn’t like we are one week into the regular season where we happen to kick from the 35 and then lol and behold, the owners pull a NASCAR trick and move the kick line back to the 30.

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by Jessy S on Aug 12, 2011 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or the new NBA ball?

July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!

"I don’t know if we win all-hype team. I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them." - Rob Ryan
"I did a couple of push-ups, grabbed a couple of protein shakes and said, I'm ready to do it, Coach!" - Victor Butler

by fs65 on Aug 13, 2011 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its stric

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 12, 2011 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

FAIL!!!!!!!!!!

Was trying to say the KR rule is suppose to cut back on injuries. But nobody makes the KR bring it out of the endzone. Its one of the most exciting plays in ALL SPORTS,not just football. And i think nxt yr it makes a return.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 12, 2011 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whether it was done...

… with all good intentions or as a concession to the injury concern (or whining, whichever way somone wants to look at it), the thing’s a bust. Grades a big fat F.

To quote ya, “…makes a return”.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Aug 12, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

that is a good thing?

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

KD

“HARRIS IS DA BIGGEST BOSS YOU’VE SEEN DIS FAR HARRIS IS DA BIGGEST BOSS YOU’VE SEEN DIS FAR”

HE WENT RICK ROSAY UP IN THIS SNITCH!

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:48 PM CDT reply actions  

it's just anotha day in the life ...

of the got d@mn boss (T-Pain voice)…..

I’m really starting to like that kid Harris…..

Impressive, sir.

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by Tuna Helper on Aug 12, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

been on Harris, hop aboard the Harris train, plenty of seats available

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

You gonna lick his belly button?

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I might

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

CHOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Radaway makes it as WR #6

his ability leaps out at you. He’d been focusing on Track in college. Give him a Miles Austin chance to develop

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 11, 2011 11:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Every team, every year has a Todd Lowber

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by 5Blings on Aug 11, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but you place bets on bottom of the roster guys

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 11, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol I hope you don’t watch the preseason!

I’m just going to say Tony Romo and Miles Austin.

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

right, and even in my infinite wisdom, I didn’t think Miles Austin or Tony Romo would do anything. wtf do I know. I thought Miles wouldn’t make it to year 2

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

The sun even shines on a...

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by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

you can especially if you can prove it. I was early on the Greg Ellis to OLB bandwagon but I don’t even know what Blog I was posting on back then

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, there's no way for me to prove it--I wasn't on BTB 5 years ago

You’ll all just have to take my word for it, I suppose! lol

But on a serious note, I had plenty of friends 3 years back ask me, “Who’s gonna be big for the Cowboys this year?” And my response was, “Watch Miles Austin.” Of course, he got injured and we didn’t hear about him for another year.

But I didn’t laugh or flinch when the next year Jerry said Austin could replace TO’s production. He was one of those guys you just had a gut feeling about that he’d put his physical ability and technique together to be big-time.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not? If chia gets to say "I told you so", then so do you.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

heck yeah

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

very similar story line to Austin….

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by dunkman on Aug 11, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 WR's???

The Cowboys will only keep 5 WR’s and Radway will be the 5th.

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Olgetree 3, Harris 4, Poots 5, Radaway 6

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 11, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

They’ll probably slip both Poots and Radaway to the practice squad.

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who do you have as the 5th WR?

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 12, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holley because of STs

Even though I think he’s trash as a WR.

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 12, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

ST's

ST players won’t be as important this year because of the new kickoff rules. Holley would be taking up a roster spot just because of Punt coverage. I think he will be cut.

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 12, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

with McCray out

Holley becomes arguably their best ST guy. Coach D will fight to keep him on the roster.

by rabblerousr on Aug 12, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Poots

I have to admit, I was making fun of this guy when I first heard his name, but this guy showed me something. He’ll go on the PS though. I have O-tree, Harris, and Radway as the final three.

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 12, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Poots is closer to NFL WR skills than Radaway, so I see Radaway as last

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

But Radway is bigger, faster, and has more big play ability, he also showed his return ability as well.

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 12, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not enough room for returners.

Dez will do punts and I think Harris wins the kick off job.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Radaway as a KR is a perfect role for him while he develops. His speed stands out, like McCann’s

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

someone’s got to carry out the ritual lol

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

But Harris was conference ST player of the year.

Why keep Rad to develop when you have Harris on the 45 man active roster and use that PS spot on someone else?

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see Harris in the game, in fact, I don’t see what separates him from Olgetree right now.

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

And, Rad may be fast but did you see how fast Harris was on his TD?

And what he did on his only kick return?

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fast???

Again, I like Harris, but he was almost caught from behind. He doesn’t have Radway’s speed.

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Almost? Are you playing hand grenades?

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love Harris, but I didn't think he was fast at all.

Those little legs were churning so fast, haha. Great play by him, but the defense almost caught up with him.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

But they did not.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those weren't first stringers...

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

No they weren't. But Rad was playing against the same 2nd/3rd string.

And we are comparing Harris to Rad. I’ll take Harris’ NOW, instead of Rad’s potential. And use that PS spot on someone else.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too...but let's not assume Harris can outrun an NFL DB in a footrace

One brings much more experience and savvy, the other some amazing triangle #’s…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not. But the argument for Rad over Harris was Rad's speed and size.

I think Harris’ overall skills plus his good speed trumps Rad.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is arguing that Radway is a better receiver than Harris

All of the pro-Rad guys are saying “Keep him as the 5th or 6th receiver and let him develop.”

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see 6 WR's

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't either

but that doesn’t detract from what I was saying

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is that Harris isn't fast, correct?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Someone's feeling really feisty

and very non-sequitur tonight, aren’t they?

My point, had you cared to read it, was that Radway would make a good final-receiver spot edition and developmental project. It has nothing to do with Harris or his ability.

My comment that Harris isn’t fast was just that—a comment in response to an improper evaluation of his speed. Not comparing him to Harris at all, my friend. Let’s not jump hastily to conclusions just to bury me in a mythical argument that isn’t even happening.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought this was your point since you typed it
I love Harris, but I didn’t think he was fast at all.
Those little legs were churning so fast, haha. Great play by him, but the defense almost caught up with him.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Admirals can do whatever they want however they want

The rest of us simple-minded folk are accountable for the words they type.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll repeat, since you seem to ignore the important parts of my post just to take quick jabs at me

I’m not trying to form some grand Radway vs. Harris argument. I said Harris is slower than fs65 thought, and I said that Radway would be nice as the final receiver on the 53-man.

There is absolutely no intended connection between those two comments.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is where our opinions differ.

When we talk about the 53rd spot on the team, it is a this guy versus that guy argument.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

And did you mean to type "Radway" here?
Not comparing him to Harris at all, my friend.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

No

because the overlying subject of the post was Radway. But filling the blank with Radway probably makes more sense given where that sentence lies in the post, so if you’d like to do than, then be my guest. I’m pretty sure using context clues, it’s easy to figure out who I’m referring to regardless.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...that WASN'T one of them there thesis statements, eh?

You have some interesting contradictions in your head about the capacities of simple-minded BTB’ers. First, we need to discern your thesis from your other comments and second, we need to properly filter through context clues to repair the mistakes you might make in both of those types of comments.

This is wayyy beyond me, AD.

:-)

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, I see what you're saying

Just take whatever I say as a comment in passing.

If it’s long, multi-paragraphed, and begins with an overarching argument, that’s your military overlord is trying to fool you all with crazy words and debate points.

I’m sure the fact that all of these “replies” are in a straight line doesn’t help with clarity for either of us, as well.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Deal

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't help things that even in that last reply

my going back and editing things completely screwed up that sentence.

I think that, coupled with my exhaustion-induced double vision, means it’s time for bed.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

See you next time...

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying that we have plenty of WRs to develop.

And we don’t need to waste a PS spot on Rad.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, so let's assume 5

Austin, Bryant, Tree, Harris and ____?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

POOT!

lol

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not so fast

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Harris as a WR, but he didn’t show me anything as a return man

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 12, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he did

He’s not Deion.

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The ONE return he brought out, he took past the 30.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm seeing Radway more as a PS guy.

Don’t think he has the skills yet for another team to pluck him. Could get interesting if he has a year of work with the coaches.

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

At most

He’s big and fast like quarter milers are, but he’s got a ton of work to do on route running. New kickoff line makes return specialists obsolete. Unless he’s a ST demon, I see him learning to play on the PS, too.

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With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Aug 12, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

So if

the new kickoff rules makes the return specialists obsolete, then that would also make the ST coverage players obsolete as well. Radway did have a 40 yard return when he was 5 yards deep in the endzone. Radway will make the 53 man roster over guys like Manny J. and Jesse Holley. Greater upside

by 212CowboyNation on Aug 12, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 seems high

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure 6 is about normal for the Cowboys, it vacilates between 5 and 6. I just don’t see a need for 4 RBs

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

You said "vacillates". lol

Look over there.
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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like last year's offense

Unable to get the ball deep downfield and finding little room running behind the guards.

Eerily similar is the defense. Decent play along the front 7 backed by suspect safety play. Sensebaugh looks lost on 50% of the coverage calls.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 11, 2011 11:51 PM CDT reply actions  

It was one series a piece!!! Don't freak

But Sensi did look aweful. I hope we get the secondary figured out. That was our biggest concern after last year and I didn’t think we did enough to improve it. So far it’s not looking good

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like I said, he gets a pass for now, but come October, no excuses for Mr Sensabaugh, N-O-N-E

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

One week for the FAs

"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic

With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Aug 12, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was just looking at how the defensive front was getting blown off of the line

You could argue Ratliff might change everything, but I wouldn’t.

On the offensive side, the observation is based on the descriptions of the plays run in camp, what I saw tonight and whatI’ve seen since 2007.

There’s no “freaking”. It’s just an observation.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

so far my tape review on Arkin looks good, so far I add tho

he is STRONG and quick

i gotta delve deeper tomorrow tho, im so tired

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Look forward to it, Chia

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by dunkman on Aug 11, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

will have a BTB fanpost up tom and an article on the blog too

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man I can't stop looking at the Nestea girl to the left

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 11, 2011 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

hmmmmmmmmmmm sugarpuss Iced Tea

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glug, glug, glug. Mmmmm.

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by fs65 on Aug 11, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmmmmmm sugarpuss iced tea hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (homer simpson drool voice)

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's way overdressed.

Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

by White Wolf on Aug 12, 2011 5:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

well its time for some zzzzzz....

enjoyed the game, gonna disconect myself lol, so i can sleep lol night all hahahahahah

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by demonbane on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 PM CDT reply actions  

same here my dude zzzzs are looking good

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 11, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Early but encouraging.

It’s the preseason but I think it is encouraging. The defense I believed was hampered by not having Ratliff. He is going to be the move guy on the D-Line. He’ll lineup where RR believes there is a mismatch, and will put in the other D-Llinemen that fit best with him on the play. This will strengthen both the run and pass defense. It was too hard to really judge the first team offense off of one series, but I think the O-line looks good, and with more reps, if they can stay healthy, will get better.

by aubatron2011 on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 PM CDT reply actions  

poor indeed, unless player safety was a big issue in it

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many major injuries occur on kickoffs?

Plus, most starters and big name players don’t play on Specials…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

enough players, they did a study on it

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

More than other plays?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

in terms of necessity they would argue yes

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it’s the 40 yard head start before the collisions that causes the damage

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

f=ma

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

approximate 220 lbs for 7 m/hr over 4 seconds

force is measured in Newtons which is kg*m/s^2

220 lbs = 99.7903214 kilograms
7 mi./hr = 0.00194444444 m / s

Force = (99.79*.0019)/(4^2) kg*m/s^2 = .01185 N

by mdlusk on Aug 12, 2011 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah I see, I should use meters covered instead of inserting speed as mi/hr

Second try:

40 yards = 36.57600 meters

Force = (99.79*36.58)/(4^2) kg*m/s^2 = 228.14 N

That’s more like it.

by mdlusk on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was an English major.

That might as well be Greek to me. Or some other country where the economy is valid.

by Nickthegrip on Aug 12, 2011 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol, I understand

but it’s just basic physics.

by mdlusk on Aug 12, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I should clarify

It’s just a numeric representation of how much force a player brings rushing down the field for 40 yards on a kickoff return (all in approximate numbers).

by mdlusk on Aug 12, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure acceleration wouldn't vary greatly based on mass

…and since each body is colliding with a body with a similar force coefficient, they should be doubled (for the sake of argument rather than solving for a true number).

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right I'm just describing in simplest terms the force that a player has in himself when moving like that downfield. The impact itself would be much greater as you mentioned.

And you’re right acceleration was a VERY rough guesstimate. I said they cover 40 yards in 4 seconds which is too fast, actually. Probably more like at least 5 or 6, and the changes in direction, or being bumped will increase that even more (which is the whole purpose of blockers, of course).

That’s why true “big hits” are rare, as you don’t generally see a player able to get a full head of steam and hit someone without any reduction, unless you hit a QB’s blindside.

All of it shows some pretty powerful force involved, though nothing like the famous “being in a car wreck” statement. A car can hit a wall at speed producing a force about 5 times its mass (like being hit with 10 tons). Since we don’t see anvils falling out of the sky on the football field (going Looney Tunes now), I’d say they don’t have to worry about that so much.

by mdlusk on Aug 12, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You were using velocity (7 mph) not acceleration. And the average player runs 18 mph (a 4.5 second 40 yard is 18 mph).

If they hit at the 20 yard line, that is 50 yards (they line up on the kicking 30 now). And let’s say it takes them 6 seconds and they are running at 18 mph when they hit.

18mph = 26.67 feet/second (velocity)

acceleration is change in velocity divided by time (0 to 26.67 divided by 6 seconds)

acceleration = 4.44 feet/second^2

given your mass of 220 lbs, F=ma

Force = 220×4.44 = 976.8 foot pounds

And as 5blings said, the defender has his own force to add to the collision. He’s probably not also running 18mph but more like 7mph. And he’s running for half the time (ball in the air waiting) Which = 754.6 foot pounds.

Total force is 976.8 + 754.6 = 1731.4 foot pounds.

Even if the guys get slowed down, it is a huge force. I still want to see it and I don’t like the new rule. I am just a physics geek.

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by fs65 on Aug 13, 2011 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sooo'd, he fumble?

Or was the dpdt with him?
dadt for asking, eh.

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by tanstaafl on Aug 13, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh, throwing thermodynamics into the fire.

Reminds me of the time at USNA when I met a girl who turned into a stalker then found out that she was the daughter of my Thermo professor, an O-6.

And I wasn’t criticising mdlusk. I just wanted to play with the equations.

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by fs65 on Aug 14, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

No fire

Merely the momentum of the play making me wonder if we win our Star Wars.

Certainly didn’t consider what you were up to being criticism of md or anyone else. Simply play.

But, just to add fuel, maybe I’m her.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Aug 14, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

She was really cute, but too young for me (at the time).

And not only was her dad my professor, but he was also a co-chair of the department and a navy captain.

But if you’re her, I’m single. ;)

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by fs65 on Aug 15, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree I’d like to see some numbers, but it is obvious that these collisions are the highest speed ones in the game

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

they did their homework on it so I trust them

and all the time guys get hurt on kickoffs, not big names but your ST guys

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that what they are out there to do?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

they are not out there to get hurt, cannot blame player safety as being a big time beef by the players

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

One more way to make the game less exciting

This is the beginning of the end…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

that one dude in Buffalo who suffered that terrible neck injury on a KR… whatever the NFL does trickles down to the lower leagues, this may be a step for all football players everywhere

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Kevin Everett

I think was his name. Also the kid from Rutgers that was paralyzed, wasn’t that on a KO as well?

by spm01 on Aug 12, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

NE1. Ever.

Over, under or in between. Especially oneself. Didn’t trust me under 30. Still don’t. Nor NE1 else. Ever.

Someone, Keg, I think, talked me into allowing for a loyal dog. But even they’ll gnaw your corpse when hungry enough.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Aug 12, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

injuries

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was an "attempt" to reduce injuries

They decided it at the same time they were making overtures toward 18 games. It’s a continuation of the changes limiting wedges trying to get the most violent contact limited.

by Evildallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Returns have a very high possibility of injury

and they can be really, really bad ones. That’s why there are special rules for blocking, esp. on INT returns. I really do not expect this rule to change.

by WilliamC on Aug 12, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was this a recent study?

Because I wrote an article about 2 years ago about this and at that time (according to my research) there had never been a study that concluded there were more injuries on those plays.

by TCBinNYC on Aug 12, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

The TV networks must be loving it!

Wouldn’t be surprised if they lobbied for it.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the idea was to cut down on injuries.

Not impressed with it so far, I will admit.

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 12, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

not exciting, I agree

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

there was a KO return TD today

so even out of a handful of games there was still one brought back. so not completely dead. There will be strategy in kicking inside the 5 and trying to pin them inside the 20, but less lead run before the kick may mean a few opportunities for big plays still….

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by scottmaui on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh and mcray injury.........

turned out to be a deep bone bruise…x-ray negative !

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by demonbane on Aug 12, 2011 12:15 AM CDT reply actions  

thank god

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 12, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

good news… the only real news in the preseason are injuries

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

very good to hear

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by scottmaui on Aug 12, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

dunno

Last year, everyone railed on me when I said Dallas looked awful in preseason and that it would translate into the regular season.

Watching the 1’s play the other team’s 1’s is very telling, IMO.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

oops, that was @ AA

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

I was actually confused reading it.

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 12, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

We were saying the same thing the year before, and the Cowboys did well and won the first playoff game in over a decade

It doesn’t really say anything. Any coach will tell you they don’t gameplan, and they don’t give away their playcalling rhythm. They want to see how guys do in individual situations, and they want the veterans to shake off the rust for a drive or two.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I will say this; we are *@^(## if Igor is our DT. He’s a solid 5 tech but cannot play DT every down

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our individuals got beat tonight...a lot

Does that say anything?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Want to get specific here?

Who was it? 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team? Was it scheme? Who were they up against?

None of it really matters. Coaches want to see which young player responds to individual situations. Listen to any coach talk about the preseason and he’ll repeat exactly what I’m saying.

Even Rob “the dude” Ryan. “I remember every regular season game I’ve ever coached. I couldn’t tell you one thing about any of the preseason games.”

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Igor, Lee, Arkin, Hatcher

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

It means they got beat

If they continue to get beat, it means they’ll be a liability. If there are too many liabilities, 6-10 could be a reality or even a late season goal.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again: we saw it when we went 13-3, we saw it when we won our playoff game. We saw it last year, too.

Nothing. That’s what preseason games mean. 4th round FCS-School rookie David Arkin getting beat in his first preseason game doesn’t mean the Cowboys are going to have a losing record.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not true

The #1’s played well in 2007’s preseason.

It was the 2’s and 3’s that stunk it up, further proving my point with Biph below…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's fine

You can be the preseason prophet of doom—there’s one for every team every year

But I’ll be enjoying myself when none of it matters starting September 11.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again, I think it was belittled last year too

…until people woke up one day to a 1-7 start.

Just sayin…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

The concern you voice is justified blings,

i’m not getting the annointing oil ready,we are still getting beat down the middle and missing tackles.
do they actually practise wrapping up opponents?.

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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 12, 2011 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the answer is "no," scots

They’ve been in camp for two weeks, the first two days were not in pads, the Blue/White scrimmage was controlled: no hitting the QBs, not bringing the RBs to the ground.

IF they play the whole preseason and look the same way, then the prognosticators of doom could have a point, but right now the sample size for 2011 is way too small.

And anybody who thinks Arkin and/or Smith are not going to have some adjustment period for NFL speed are dreaming.

"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic

With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Aug 12, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Iv'e said in another post,

that i hope for improvement in the next game (s) ,
just concerned that our stating safeties still got beat on a deep pass,seen too much of that recently ,allied to the missed tackles ,it just left me with a -what’s changed ? ,feeling.

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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 12, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t trying to sound argumentative, so if the wrong tone was communicated that’s my bad.

I wasn’t referring to you as associated with gloom and doom, for you are generally one of the more optimistic voices. And you had not even mentioned the rookies, so that was in response to further up the thread.

Sorry that I brought stuff in from left field relative to what you actually said. I share your concerns about our weaknesses as they appeared last night. A little too familiar. Yet, I think both those types of problems can be addressed before the first game against Jets, hopefully for the better.

"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic

With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Aug 12, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's cool Angus,

it looks like it will take a few games until we can properly assess the team.
happy to see the young guy’s on the OL .

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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 12, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I agree with your premise

One should expect a number of breakdowns in the first preseason game that need to be worked out before the season starts. The breakdowns that are alarming to me are as follows:

Igor seemed to be targeted on every play in the first series. The Broncos simply doubled him and backed him up to create a hole. Instead of trying to twist or move he need simply tried to resist the force and was pushed back. This happened on every run play. Igor is a veteran, this is not something that is correctable at this point in his career.

I though Arkin did remarkably well. Kosier, however, had a lot of trouble holding the line when he was not pulling. He has never been great at this and may just not be in football shape quite yet.

Lee had a number of breakdowns but always seemed to be in the right spot. Honestly, to me, it seemed like he was a bit over excited.

Other than Olshansky, who I’m convinced is a liability, I’m willing to hold judgement until after the 3rd preseason game. There are, however, things to keep an eye on that could predict a poor showing this season.

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by LRogue on Aug 12, 2011 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what I was looking for on defense was some sort of push up front that didn't require numbers

…along with assignment integrity in the defensive backfield.

What I was looking for on offense was the ability to push the pile up front and for the starting QB to get the ball downfield to his edge receivers.

Breakdowns notwithstanding, and your point about Igor was a good one, Dallas didn’t look like they were able to do much in the areas I mentioned.

Obviously, we will look for improvement as the games go on, but this was not a good start like the ones I saw from other teams.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The were abe to get a push on passing downs with three a few times

I reviewed the game this morning and tried to pay special attention to the D-line. The D was able to put pressure on the Broncos QB several times with three D-line rushing. Against the run was a different story. I think we will see a lot more stunts and shooting the gaps on run downs to close the run lanes. I think there are still some schematic issues on run defense (we’ll see). The D-line bent against Denver’s big O-line, but only Igor broke on that first drive.

As far as the O-line, I now see Gurode’s value. I have not been high on him because I think the line calls need to come from the guy snapping the ball to be truly effective. That being said, Arkin and Kosier are small/quick O-lineman (everything being relative) so they need Gurode big strong frame in the middle to anchor things. Costa just doesn’t have enough beef.

Again…we’ll see

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by LRogue on Aug 12, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with this.

I reviewed the first quarter last night and this is exactly what I saw. In pass situations, Hatcher in particular had some good rushes where he was able to get up the field and make the QB scramble. The D-line struggled against the run much more than I would have thought (although in fairness Igor was owned by Clady, one of the best tackles in the game), but I thought there were things to be encouraged about against the pass.

My conclusion was the same as yours on the O-line as well. We struggled to get a good push, and it looked like a lot of it was the center getting overpowered and that spilling over into the laps of the two guards. Thankfully, Gurode should stop that from being the case.

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by Creasy729 on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought this was the first one

"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic

With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Aug 12, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

You thought correctly, but my comment was a rebuttal to the idea that preseason games don't matter

In fact, JG said last night that, among the other things he is trying to accomplish in preseason, is that they are “trying to win games” and “teach young guys” what it takes to win.

So maybe it’s more important than even I thought…to JG anyway.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

To Rob Ryan, too

In one of his sound bites when asked if winning was important he said something to the effect of, “Hell yeah we want to win. They’re keeping score.”

I think it’s really important to win that third one as well, and I consider any wins before that as gravy. But you’re right, JG and RR wanted to win this one.

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With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.

by Uncle Angus on Aug 12, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

completely disagree

How the 2’s and 3’s match up is much more telling as it gives a better idea of a teams depth.

Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin

by Biph on Aug 12, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh I don’t know… often late in preseason I’m looking for players who make plays, and guys who have physical attributes that leap out. Speed and right place right time combos…

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

How often is a 3rd string LB going to play?

And teams have won blings without depth…in fact, it’s generally the healthiest teams that win more often. That means if their #1’s stay healthy and play well, they play well.

Seeing a #2 or #3 play well tells you nothing about how they would fare against 1’s.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is american tackle football

every team has injuries every game. 2nd and 3rd string guys who dominate against other 2nd and 3rd string guys have a better chance of giving at least adequate play in a 2-4 week span when a starter is out. Last years Packers team showed the importance of depth.

Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin

by Biph on Aug 12, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Last year's Packer team was 9-7

…then they got hot in the playoffs and won a bling.

No one is arguing against depth, but if your starters aren’t competitive, your #2’s and #3’s aren’t likely to matter much in the final outcome.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

they were 10-6 and never lost by more than 7 points.

The Dallas starters were plenty competitive in the 1 series they played tonight.

Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin

by Biph on Aug 12, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

You watched our defense play, right?

Versus Denver…the Broncos…tonight…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

The defense looked sloppy, but they were missing plenty of starters and playing in a completely different system than last year. A system in which only 2% of the vernacular carried over to this year. A system in which they’ve had two weeks of training camp to learn. A system in which the free agents had one week of training camp to learn.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey guys, take a second, take a breath and look at that girl.

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by fs65 on Aug 12, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Igor lines up and gets pushed back

Same with Hatcher.

Lee can’t seem to wrap up.

Arkin can’t get a push against anyone.

What scheme would you employ to change any of that?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blings, maybe you haven't been following the Cowboys over the past several months

But David Arkin is a rookie guard who played tackle last year at a Division 1-aa school. All of these guys are coming off of an extended offseason and only two weeks of training camp.

Cool it on the nay-saying. Yes, you were right one time. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. If I play “pick a number between one and ten” and choose the same number every time, odds are I’m going to guess the correct number within ten tries.

My point, which I will stand by, is that the preseason doesn’t matter. That the Cowboys played sloppily two years ago when we won our first playoff game in forever. It matters not.

Take a breather, glance at the REALLY hot Nestea girl over there, and enjoy the fact that football is back. There’s plenty of time to worry about things that don’t matter later on.

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...
My point, which I will stand by, is that the preseason doesn’t matter.

That’s absolutely untrue, but okay…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you make a habit of taking quotes completely out of context

simplifying them, then claiming victory in a pointless argument?

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, FiTaT does that

I’m much more fun at parties.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the sake of time and brevity, I try and keep things relatively simple.

But I’ll be sure to add in all of the qualifiers next time, just for you. ;-)

by Admiral Dallas on Aug 12, 2011 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes so what

The Colts haven’t won a preseason game in 4 years they must suck in the regular season.

Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin

by Biph on Aug 12, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Myopic

Who’s concerned with final scores? Has anyone said they cared if we won or lost?

BTW, we WON. Again, not sure what game you watched.

Your question is ridiculous.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

what question?

Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin

by Biph on Aug 12, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

"yes so what"

Even without the punctuation, how could that not be interpreted as a question?

LOL

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

the defense gave up some big plays

but the first and second units kept Denver out of the end zone. I saw some OT’s out in front of some screen plays from the first team offense which is all I needed to see from them, I’m happy.

Red means run, son, numbers add up to nothin

by Biph on Aug 12, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Run Defense

All in all,pretty positive game but our defensive line really got pushed off the ball in that 1st quarter.To me,that was the most glaring deficiency

by Oshawa Cowboy on Aug 12, 2011 6:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

some will say that Ratliff will solidify the middle of the line but,

they are probably the same ones that want him at DE.
go figure.

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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 12, 2011 6:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

Still think we need a big prototypical DT in the middle.maybe Brent with Spears and Ratliff on the ends will work but it would nice to have a Ngataish type of guy/

by Oshawa Cowboy on Aug 12, 2011 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

They were never down in any game at any time by more than 7 points…

by CotySaxman on Aug 12, 2011 6:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dan Bailey looked solid on KOs

if Beuhler had done it, would he of kicked them beyond the end zone each time?

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Well 2:30 over here I gotta run

Good night guys!

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by SportsDrunk on Aug 12, 2011 12:25 AM CDT reply actions  

For those who missed it

Q1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8psGjhdVnho&feature=player_embedded
Q2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5mdefWpyEM&feature=player_embedded

courtesy of hairic from cowboyszone. posted the 1st quarter video already in the other thread but it looked like it got buried so why not post it again. :P

Anyway, I went through and watched all the snaps from Tyron and Arkin, and like you would expect with two rookies there was good and bad. Tyron really does a good job in pass protection and gets a push in the run game, but he had a couple mental errors that hopefully will be worked out. It sure seemed like that sack in the 2nd quarter was at least partially his fault (blitzers on his side, he didnt block anybody). He had a lot of impressive blocks though too, so Im very happy with his performance overall. Arkin was more night and day. He had a couple great looking blocks and others where he either completely whiffed or seemed to struggle. Its probably a mistake to think he is a starter this year, but I think he can be a guy for us in the future.

by Spaceball on Aug 12, 2011 1:40 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks so much

Cleaning lady turned off the power strip the powers my TV and cable and my DVR didnt record it as planned. I hadnt found any other way to watch it.

Do you have the 3rd and 4th quarters?

by TCBinNYC on Aug 12, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

They've been calling Stephen McGee clutch for a long time

This is his most famous college age driver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p35_hslpnbU&feature=related

This was played in sweltering heat and humidity. Aggie legend is he vomited before his touch down run.

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 12, 2011 2:28 AM CDT reply actions  

That's leadership... not talent alone.

It’s one thing to believe in yourself, it’s quite another to carry 10 other players on your back.

That look he has in his eye after scoring, that’s determination, motivation, you can’t teach that…

by scraig on Aug 12, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

My MVP's of pre-season game 1

McGee – he has improved from last season, there is no question. He’s still improving, but this is the 2nd game in a row he directed a last minute game winning drive. He can throw with some accuracy on the run, and he looks to have a much better grasp of the offense.

Rucker – Not just the game winning drive and 2 pt convo., but he threw the key block on the biggest play of the game, Harris’s 76 yd TD run after the catch. I know we’ve got 3 legit TE’s already, so I don’t know what will happen with him, but I hope they keep him.

The man who stole the show was Dwayne Harris. He’s got that electricity we were hoping for. WR/RS. Ogletree better step it up, because he’s behind after game 1.

Radway is fast, but he also made mistakes that come from not playing enough football, I don’t know if he’d be safe from pilfering on the PS, but he’d benefit more there learning how to play, than getting stashed on the bench.

Lastly, I think they should swap out the rookie LS. Screwing up an XP snap that would have given Dallas the lead is enough for me. If they are serious about looking for an option should LP Frenchie get injured, this guy isn’t it. Try another one.

Props to the backup OL, they didn’t look overwhelmed at all. And to rookie CB Josh Thomas for a TD saving pass break up in the end zone.

Tanner looked better than Miller, for what it’s worth. I think the talk of trading Choice is moot for now. Better keep our RB depth until we know more about Murray, because Miller was awful tonight.

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by APerfectStar on Aug 12, 2011 3:05 AM CDT reply actions  

3rd game in a row actually

Even though we lost in Arizona, he deserved tremendous credit for coming off the bench and leading a potential game winning drive

by DonMoosavi on Aug 12, 2011 4:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

All things considered the Cowboys looked a lot better offensively in the 2nd half

Call it scrubs or whatever so be it.

The defence was definitely better in the redzone in the 1st half.

McGee rectified has mistake in the 2nd quarter with a great 2nd half. 3 drives 22 points…

by scraig on Aug 12, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

What happened to Rena and the other 10 people that laughed at me for saying Choice was much better, and much more proven than Miller? And that getting rid of Choice would be an asinine decision? Oh, but Miller is such an awesome runner based on camp reports, and a block he made last year. Hahahaha.

by Fausto Geraci on Aug 12, 2011 6:45 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah he did

dont you remember that penalty he got for being a cowboy? lol

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 12, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw Choice, in the only team he was given all the carries, run productively at Pittsburgh on ice, New York, and I believe the Eagles in the winter. The stiffest run D’s that year. Miller cannot even gain a yard against a 2nd team Broncos D, and was outshined by his undrafted teammate. So screaming to cut Choice because Miller is the answer after some practices is exactly what I said, asinine.

by Fausto Geraci on Aug 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying- making a claim that you've seen all there is to see of Miller based on the one preseason game

or referencing games from three seasons ago, could be called just as asinine. Why don’t we ALL just wait and see how it shakes out.

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by KD Drummond on Aug 12, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

No disrespect to Miller, but Choice can be a top RB that starts in this league.

by Fausto Geraci on Aug 12, 2011 6:46 AM CDT reply actions  

happy

we got the win! as quick as everything is going happy with the victory! cant wait for next game should be even better!

by rogerwhitedorcett on Aug 12, 2011 6:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Dwayne Harris is SO fast

So exciting to watch

Football Fever has begun.

by Grady90 on Aug 12, 2011 6:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Radway clearly has a lot of raw talent

he just need to get rid of the mental mistakes, but that will come with time

Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith

by Lissyyyyy on Aug 12, 2011 7:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Again, Todd Lowber

Same guy, same skill set.

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by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I knew Harris was going to be a player when we drafted him

The guy is what Parcells used to refer as a “football playin’ dude”.

Can definitely ball, thats for sure.

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by Terry on Aug 12, 2011 7:36 AM CDT reply actions  

You said that about Isaiah Stanbust too

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

To the people that are negative

It is one preseason game. There was only really one team that looked good last night and that was the Patriots. Did we blow an assignment on a big pass play? Yes, but what defense doesn’t during the year? The run defense was obviously bad but no Ratliff, Jenkins, and it’s a new defense with less then 2% of the same verbage last year. And even though the run d was so bad they kept them out of the endzone. It’s a lot easier to win a game if your d is giving up three points than 7. The offense is way to hard to judge. It was one drive, the o-line was solid. Yes Arkin did have his struggles, but it’s his first NFL game out of college. It’s better that he has them now then during the season. The good thing is the coaches now have tape and can start evaluating the players in game situations and start making the decisions on who they believe they will keep, and if they think they need to add somebody.

by aubatron2011 on Aug 12, 2011 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Really?

You don’t think SD looked good?

You don’t think the Eagles looked good?

And how is Jenkins going to help on run defense?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we should be concerned

But not completely negative and ready to scrap the season. It’s one game, the starters (esp. defense & O-Line) didn’t look very impressive, but conclusions drawn from 10-12 plays can’t really be extrapolated out in any way. Especially with so many guys out. Ratliff will help, especially how Ryan’s going to use him. I’m still a little concerned about the run, but not that concerned.

I am worried about our O-Line depth though, that’s a legitimate fear to me. Arkin looked pretty good, but other than that it looks really shaky. It’s frustrating that we have so much depth at a position (WR) that already has 2 of our 4-5 best players, and nothing at weak positions like O-Line.

by spm01 on Aug 12, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who would you say is scrapping the season?

Also, I agree with you that having the best skill position players without complementary trench talent has been our achilles heel for too long.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 12, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say you are.

But there are people out there beating the “we still suck, 8-8 at beast” drum already, after one series of play from a first team that doesn’t even have all it’s starters.

by TheBlueBaron on Aug 12, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Wasn’t referring to you, blings. Just happened to reply to your post. I was partially agreeing with you actually, but there are a number of people who wanna scrap the season.

by spm01 on Aug 12, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah

When people make observations, they are going to put a spin on what they see.

But to say one series with negative outcomes is a forerunner of everything that is to come is just as speculative and unfounded as saying it has no bearing at all on the future.

Game 3 will be the one that tells us the most about this team’s prospective fortunes.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Aug 13, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have never seen so much hype over McGee

Clearly last night he was the best QB in the game… Romo looked good but he has lost that killer instinct inside the red zone…

McGee is very determined, he will be the starting QB in 2012… maybe in 2011…

by scraig on Aug 12, 2011 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

You are sort of deranged

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by Seanrude on Aug 12, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

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