OLB Victor Butler Talks Cowboys Defense: "Go hunt. Go eat. Whoever’s got the ball, kill him."
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 14, 2011 3:46 PM CDT
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PrintCowboys outside linebacker Victor Butler has had a strong training camp and an impressive showing in the game against the Broncos. Butler was credited with three solo tackles and two assists including one tackle for a loss, and almost had Tebow for a sack before Clifton Geathers flattened the Broncos' QB.
Stuck behind DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer means he hasn't seen a lot of playing time in his two years with the Cowboys, but that may be about to change. Rob Ryan's defensive scheme will likely afford Butler a lot more opportunities to showcase his talents. In fact, he may be one of the players who'll benefit the most from the coaching change.
And this realization has left the guy brimming with positive excitement, as we saw in a transcript of an interview with him we had here just ten days ago (Cowboys' Victor Butler On Ryan's Scheme: "The Basic Concept Is To Create Mismatches"). And on Saturday, the mothership put up another interview with a fired-up Victor Butler. Read the full transcript after the break to find out why Butler is quickly becoming one of my favorite players on the team - or watch the interview at dallascowboys.com
Victor Butler talks to reporters after practice on the changes in this year's team.
Victor Butler: The level of focus and accountability has just gone way up. You know what you've got to do, you know how to do it now. So now it's just a matter of coming out and doing it the right way.
Q: Even though you're learning a new system?
Victor Butler: Defense is defense, man. You hit people in the mouth. You sack quarterbacks. Stop the run. Get off the field on third downs. Defense is defense. No matter if it's a 3-4, 4-3, 46, it's all defense.
Q: Working against Tyron Smith after practice, how would you chart his progress?
Victor Butler: Pretty good. I think he's going to be ready. He's going to do some big things this year. Coaches are working with him hard, he seems to be working hard, he's really focused for a rookie. He's a young guy but he works really hard and he wants it. So that is the most important thing.
Q: What's his biggest strength?
Victor Butler: He's got hands like vise-grips. Don't let him touch you. If he touches you, it's a wrap. He locks on and you can't get the guy off you. He's like the jaws of life. It's incredible.
Q: A lot of the guys have talked about this new defense, freeing people up to make more plays, to be more aggressive. Does that fit right into your style?
Victor Butler: It does. We met with coach Ryan and it's a player friendly defense. It's designed to put players in position to make big plays. Now as a player, when you're in position, you've just got to make the big play!
That's what you're seeing with guys. Guys with big play ability, putting them in those positions, they're going to make big plays. You had Alan Ball with the interception. Me coming free. You've got guys like Brandon Williams being able to come free. Orie Lemon ... when you put those guys in positions to make plays, and they're playmakers, they're going to make plays.
And that's what this defense is about.
Does this fire you up?
Victor Butler: Oh yeah. When you've got a guy who's taken the leash off of you - letting the dogs hunt - it feels good as a defense. There are no restrictions, there’s no cage, there’s no box: Go hunt. Go eat. Whoever's got the ball, kill him.
Note: This interview was taped after practice was over. Watch the video closely and you'll see Jay Ratliff providing tips and pointers to the rookie linemen in the background: Pepa Letuli (79), Kevin Kowalski (60) and Bill Nagy (61).
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Gotta love it.
I am really hoping he has a tremendous year for us. And the comment about Smiths hands is great. Vice grips. :)
he's like napalm
once it touches you, it’s impossible to get it off of you.
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Yum
“I love the smell of Napalm in the morning”
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 14, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
'Cause napalm sticks to kids...
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
*reads title* *rubs hands together and laughs an evil supervillain laugh*
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Same here
Here’s something I didn’t really get…. when the team played and their own QB was getting killed (Vikings playoff game for example), why they didn’t just hammer Favre to return the favor. That’s what I used to do – you hit my guy, I’m going to take it out on yours. So I just LOVE this kind of attitude.
Don't believe everything you think.
i don't know...but it sounds good to me...
we haven’t just beat the living crap out of a QB inna long time. (bart scott voice) CAN’T WAIT!
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
I love me some crazy defenders.
Butler is a guy I’m really rooting for.
Residing on the BEast Coast.
this all sounds nice
but Ryan better tell the safties their job is too defend the pass. These guys spend more time looking into the backfield then playing the pass. Stop trying to get the big hit on the RB and play the pass.
Every big play these guys are caught flatfooted and peeking into the backfield.
That quote was greatness.
Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.
by Lord Humungus on Aug 14, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, only it sounds too uplifting.
Maybe “Jaws of Death” or how about just “Jaws”?
Don't believe everything you think.
I like "JAWS"
Let’s make that stick.
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
someone said that should be Costa's name
because of the short arms
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 14, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah it should
with Tyron it sounded cool but with Costa it makes more sense with the arms
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
wouldn't those arms make Costa
a C-rex?
thought about Philosaurus but that would be too docile for football.
Don't panic.
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
I was one of the first, but I have been using TRON lately, I still like Tyronasaurus
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The Tyrontula!
Cuz it’s like he’s got 8 arms…or you can’t escape his web…or something.
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 10:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
DING! DING! DING!
We have a winner!!!
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 14, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Mwahahaha
Now where’s Lee Ford? I need a copyright attorney.
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 11:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
nobody likes TRON oh well
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
except Jaws of Life Pry Open Not Hold Shut Vise Grips is The Correct Tool Choice
by meisternance on Aug 14, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Well Tyron does Pry open holes for Felix....
(Getting technical)
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 14, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
+77
You Got That Right! Watching our Young Guys Against Denver, I Was Pleased
by meisternance on Aug 14, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely want more time for Butler
One of the things I want to see most from RR is getting guys who can make plays on the field. Phillips let guys like Butler spend too much time on the sidelines rather than getting creative and finding ways to get him on the field and create some havoc
Ok, I got curious and looked it up.
For offensive only RB’s, who did it most often, WR’s and QB’s have won it going back to 67.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Rookie_of_the_Year_Award
Sit the Spencer, it's Butler time!!!
Run-stopping is for DEs. OLBs need to go serve up a helping of whoop-butt on QBs!
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 14, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
Let's not forget
the talent level he was playing against.
by oneforthethumb on Aug 14, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
however we have seen him play pretty well against starters
Its not like Butler is an undrafted rookie.
by death of the cool on Aug 14, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
He made a potential game saving play in tripping up McNabb in 2009 on a critical third down to get us into the playoffs. He’s earned the right to play, and I believe he can do against the 1’s.
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
If Spencer doesn't show up this year
And Butler keeps up this level of play, this would help us tremendously. Because then would could let Spencer walk and not have to give him big money, which would help ease next year’s cap hits.
by JakBandit on Aug 14, 2011 4:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Spencer needs to sit right now.....
Butler is everything Spencer isn’t. Disruptive, quick , superior pass rusher. Spencer has been a major dissapointment from the get go. Time for other players to get a chance. I would trade Spencer for whatever you could get for him. Just seems so many picks for Dallas just waller in mediocrity. If there is a new era beginning in Dallas NOW is the time to make real changes.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 14, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Two years ago
Spencer was pretty dominant.
by aubatron2011 on Aug 14, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
for 7 games,,,,
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 14, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
4 NFL seasons and he's only showed pass rush ability for 1/2 of one season
I think we’ve seen enough to say the glimmer of pass rush ability is the exception, not the norm.
The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 14, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Blue Eyed
I agree with you about that. I’m not sure why he hasn’t shown that ability since then, but we know he has it in him. But I can tell you one thing if he doesn’t show it this year, he won’t play. Rob Ryan has sat players with more talent than him.
by aubatron2011 on Aug 14, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
And he'll be a FA
Who won’t be resigned
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 14, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I see him as a Slightly more talented Matt Roth
but that is JMHO
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 14, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Sit Spencer...
JakBandit…I agree with you and I think the consensus is that we all think Spencer should sit. Unfortunately, Butler doesn’t back up Spencer, he backs up Ware. Truth be told, the only reason Spencer continues to start is his draft position. This was a Wade Phillips pick also. Butler clearly has “it” as a pass rusher and probably is versatile enough to where he can move around in Rob Ryan’s defense to help create those mis-matches. I think they will ride it out with Spencer there this year and let him walk or trade him next year.
by cowboyup_atl on Aug 14, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Not all
but of course I thought it was crazy for Bledsoe to give way to Romo
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 14, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
another reason Spencer plays is becuz of his run stopping ability on the outside
remember he is playing almost exclusively to the side of the tight end so when he rushes he has a little further distnce to go to get to the QB. He lacks the speed Butler has shown, but I think his strength and technique for containing the run is greater. He should be playing on running downs only and any obivious passing down Butler needs to be in.
"We were going to go out to Valley Ranch and use it as an opportunity to get back out in the heat and work, and I open up the curtains this morning very early and all of a sudden it was 68 and raining," Garrett said. "I said to the players, 'How big was the group prayer last night?' -Jason Garrett
by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
run stopping OLBs are a dime a dozen
in fact the league is littered with "run stoppers’ that teams hope learn the knack of getting pressure on the QB but its the ones that get to the QB that are highly coveted.
Spencer was also in the game when the Broncos were running it right up the teeth of that defense.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
+1
Another pass rushing OLB is a huge asset. Ware is gonna get his regardless, but it definitely would help. Just like Harrison and Woodley, you need the pass rush from both sides. Leave the run stopping to the ends. Not saying that Spencer is not valued, but we have to get to the QB. And if he cant do it, let Butler go for it
by dcsince77 on Aug 15, 2011 6:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of Woodley, we took Spencer over him.... go figure!!
by dcsince77 on Aug 15, 2011 6:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Quote from camp chat today.
Comment From Nick
Bryan, do we actually have more draft busts than other teams, or is that just the way we perceive them? If so, why is that the case? Is it scouts, front office, Jerry?
2:46
Todd Archer (ESPNDallas): No. It’s the perception here. There are maybe four teams that are really good at drafting. The rest are so-so.
i think
he will see alot of playing time in Ryan’s defense.
fits the mold.
I've always thought Butler
should have had a bit more time in rush-the-passer/blitz packages. It’s not a knock against Spencer, who I feel is what he is—a very solid linebacker who is good at all things but great at none. For Spencer, that’s not a bad thing. He’s a good, solid linebacker. But Butler just seems to have a knack for rushing the passer that Spencer lacks. I still don’t know why he wasn’t allowed on the field more in passing downs. However, I trust Spencer more against the run than Butler. Butler’s aggressiveness can get him beat on a quick screen pass in a real game if he is too quick to the QB with a running back in the flat. However, Wade rarely used the guy and he does have some unique skills. I can see him flourishing under RR’s system.
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by Tennessee_Jed on Aug 14, 2011 4:25 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
OLBs need to make plays when its time but so far Spencer hasn't had that extra gear.
i expect to see a lot more Butler unless Spencer shows something really soon.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Maybe the best headline I have ever seen here.
Can’t wait to see more of that attitude. Mouth is watering. (Wipes drool from corner of mouth.)
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Yes, Sir.
When I heard that last sentence of the interview I knew right away it was a headline. I’m just surprised nobody else in the Metroplex picked up on it.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 14, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
So give him a star for his headline.
He has said he writes for rec’s.
Speaking of headlines.
Ahmad Black has a high ankle sprain. Sounds like he will miss the entire preseason.
I know he had some fans here.
tough break for him
As a small guy, he really need preseason to stand out
by somebodyquiet on Aug 14, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Tampa
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by KD Drummond on Aug 15, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I know
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I was
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
The Headline is good
But I believe the caption under the picture is more telling.
The Headline makes me extremely excited
I’ve always wanted a defense like that. Like the Pittsburgh D or Ravens D. A defense that just scares opponents when they look across the line of scrimmage. Rob Ryan is gonna bring that.
Go Cowboyz!!!!!!
Dez is gonna beast this year!!
Melooooooo!!!!
cry havoc
And let slip the dogs of war!
by soul.rebel138 on Aug 15, 2011 12:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Positive and negative: Nothing against Butler, like him as a player, and don't know much about him really
That’s the positive, he sounds fired up and might have a great year-I hope so! Goodness knows these DB’s need all the pass rush they can get.
But, on the other hand, am I the only one uncomfortable with a career backup giving all these interviews and talking smack about the D? Reminds me of MBennett, or that year PCrayton started talking so much. I’d prefer these guys shut it—-especially the defense—-until they prove it on the field. Especially guys who’ve never even started!
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they asked him...he answered...I like the confidence that he is showing with his answers
I much prefer his answers and those of Rob to the ones we got in previous years.
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by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions
" You had Alan Ball with the interception. Me coming free. You've got guys like Brandon Williams being able to come free. Orie Lemon ..."
I mean, seriously?
Alan Ball, Brandon Williams?
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Alan Ball’s interception was negated by a pass interference penalty against McCann in the Denver game.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 14, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Kinda off topic-
But how do u guys feel about your secondary? I’m not talking smack,but i haven’t heard much about addressing the issue. Thx guys.
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 14, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Mediocre
Elam upgraded the S slot, Jenkins is a great unknown and Newman is hurt.
Most do think the secondary will at least be better organized than in the past.
Don't believe everything you think.
wuts Newmans situation?
Is he PUP?
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Aug 14, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Stinger.
Garrett is expecting him back by the Charger game: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4682082/cowboys-hoping-mike-jenkins-can-return-soon
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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Newman has a groin pull.
He says he’ll be back for week 1, hopefully.
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 11:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You're right.
I was still stuck on the Jenkins as an “unknown” part of Dunk’s post.
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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally
I don’t think Jenkins is any more of an unknown than any other player. Was his “regression” a complete enigma, statistically? I think it’s relatively common for NFL players to have a down year. Therefore, I think Jenkins in the Pro Bowl and Newman on the trade block is just as likely as the other way around.
by CotySaxman on Aug 15, 2011 12:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i just hope its a "pull" & not some tear that might require surgery.
if i remember correct this isn’t his first groin injury & the last required surgery? i know it can be a nagging injury that slows you down on the field. the defense really needs there best CB on the field 100% healthy.
i always liked Newman & thought he didn’t get the respect he deserves it takes to be a LCB in this league. most of the great WRs really respect Newmans game.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
+1
just better hope that DL can get some pressure up front & our LBs can make some plays. if we lose up front in the trenches then we cant stop any of the better offenses.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
afraid
if you’re not afraid, you’re fooling yourself. And I’m an optimistic fan to the end. We all HOPE that Alan Ball at safety was the reason we sucked… but no one really knows.
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by KD Drummond on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
deep down I am afraid, but I choose to hide it
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopeful for improvement.
If Ryan really can get the defense to create consistent pressure on QBs this season the performance of the secondary should improve as a result, unless they are totally blowing assignments like Church did in the Denver game.
by transmogrifier on Aug 15, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ball is looking pretty good
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe it has something to do with
he’s playing the position he’s suppossed to be playing.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 14, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree Norm, totally agree
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
he's an OK 4th CB
But him and BWilliams as playmakers?
Puhleeze.
One preseason game so far doesn’t mean he’s looking good or bad, really.
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by Realist Larry on Aug 14, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry.....you wanted big names all?
Depth has to come from somewhere and it sounds to me that guys are starting to believe in the system as well as each other.
Brandon Williams is finally healthy after his knee was blown out his rookie year. Give him a chance. Takes 2 years to fully recover. Not everyone can be blessed with the medical miracles that seem to happen to the Patriots. Would you prefer he do a Rodney Harrison and use HGH to get back quicker?
Ball, tho I’m a fan for him to be released, has seemed to earn the trust of Ryan and is in his natural position of CB now. The pro of him staying is he would give us another veteran CB for depth if something were to happen to Jenkins or Newman longterm. The con is that he would push off a younger CB that might have a higher upside and longterm value than he has shown.
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by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
No camp chat today?
AOA just got a rep as a CB, wonder if they are looking at having him move to CB.
According to Broaddus the scouts are calling AOA a bust.
We'll be back with a camp chat tomorrow
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 14, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
as soon as I figure out when practice is actually scheduled :-)
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 14, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
OK. :)
And ouch, Bailey just missed 3/4 FG’s. /sigh
The stats so far:
Bailey: 37/46, 80.4%
Buehler: 35/49, 71.4%
These are the raw numbers, though we need to be careful of comparing apples with oranges as I don’t know what the splits by distance look like.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 14, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
you amaze me
how in the hell did you get those splits from the Bundersrepublik?
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he is just really good with the stats
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
ha ha ha. Brandon George from the DMN is keeping a running tally.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 15, 2011 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Coach Garrett
Seems like a guy who thinks in the long term. His hiring of Rob Ryan was done for two reasons I believe: first he wants the defense to improve. I also believe he had in his mind after the season that he was going to draft an offensive lineman or two, so why not hire a defensive coordinator that runs an extremely confusing defense to help out his young linemen.
And, said Romo, the running backs picking up blitzes.
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he may have a huge year
I will say 7 sacks, lucky 7 for 57
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
reminds me of "shoot em up" by nas off the nastradamus album
“(light) em up (light) em up what. kill kill kill murder murder murder”
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Aug 14, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
thats the song that came into my head
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
+57
JG Turns To RR And Commands “Release The Hydra”
by meisternance on Aug 14, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
thats so true
once Tyron gets his hands on you, its a wrap
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 6:47 PM CDT reply actions
its uncanny
Dumerville even looked perplexed.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 14, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
he took Von Millers lunch money too
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Only Perplexed But Really Tiny Next To Tyron
by meisternance on Aug 14, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
word
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Cowboys/Chargers will be on Sunday here. Great. I had to wait for NFLNET to rerun last weeks game.
I have a Charger fan relative, and we’ll go at it on facebook all week, starting right after Iogoff here. I hope to see the Cowboys stop some passes over the middle, for a change. As the earlier poster said, too much looking in the backfield going on.
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what station here in Norcal?
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by Realist Larry on Aug 14, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Sunday KCRA 3, 5:00pm, and thanks Larry. Good to be back on the BTB
with the regular season coming up fast.
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I like the go get them attitude but this D is still scary
In order to get to the QB we have to cover for at least 3 to 4 seconds…..(not like on that 3rd and 6 on the first drive against the Broncos)….this secondary is still the same….Abe Elam is no Troy Polamalu…..he might be an upgrade over ball but the rest is just the same and RR cant make miracles. As Far as I know, San Diego’s D was one of the best with Wade and Wade lost his job because of the players we currently have.
I hope Garret and RR make enough of a difference and I am wrong but that game against the Broncos scares me….they ran it comfortably and passed easily against us.
It was the first preseason game
After a long lockout where the players didn’t have time to learn a new system with almost 98% new terminology. If you watched any of the other preseason games, the run stopping ability of most of the teams was pretty pathetic.
by aubatron2011 on Aug 14, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Ryan and the players admitted they had problems with communication.
evidently the crowd noise that can help a defense was a very bad hindrance to us as a lot of the checks and moves are accomplished vocally. They said they have to improve the use of hand signals instead of relying on verbage to get things done.
"We were going to go out to Valley Ranch and use it as an opportunity to get back out in the heat and work, and I open up the curtains this morning very early and all of a sudden it was 68 and raining," Garrett said. "I said to the players, 'How big was the group prayer last night?' -Jason Garrett
by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense
It ain’t no thang. With everything else they’ve been cramming in the first two weeks, they got used to verbal communication when changing things up. Now they have to add in the next step.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
We have how many starters out due to injury?
Not only that but the vet FA’s, coming into a new D only took the field for the 1st time a week before this game. They had a day off, the scrimmage, etc so they had 4 or 5 practices before this game.
Give them a chance.
Tyron Smith versus JJ Watt
Who will be a better pro?
Tyron Smith
or
JJ Watt
I think they will meet in the final preseason game
we dont play the Texans this year my dude
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I though the Cowboys play Houston every preseason
Sorry
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 14, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
all good dude, I had to double check because I didnt know
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
For what is it worth
JJ Watt is turning heads in Houston
Seem both Smth and JJ Watt will each turn out to be special.
The Cowboys could not draft them both.
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 14, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Watt looks great
like I said, I was a huge Watt and Smith fan, either player would have fixed a need
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 15, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
America's team
Chia one day if you can watch
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Great video
Please take my advice here
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 14, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I will for sure
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
please tell me your joking
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 14, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
They are both "finesse" linebackers
great practice players but when the pads come on and the opposing players hit back they get manhandled.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
And this is based on...
Oh, right, a couple missed wraps in the first preseason game.
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 10:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's based on the fact
That both of them are white.
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by SportsDrunk on Aug 14, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope not
Isn’t Lissemore white?
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 11:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Uh oh, Austin is half white...
we’re in trouble.
LOL
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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Good thing he works so hard...
It sure offsets his lack of athleticism. You can see it, because he can’t juke. He has to run through them, thermos clenched tightly, in order to score touchdowns and not celebrate (because he can’t dance, either)
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 11:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Dang...
No wonder Kim Kardashian dumped him.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The one I'm worried about is Carter
He’s the one that has the marvelous “finesse” tag.
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by SportsDrunk on Aug 14, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
No way...
he’s black. He’s got to be athletically gifted.
LOL
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Lmao
But seriously, this dude better be coached up good. Solid tackling isn’t in him.
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by SportsDrunk on Aug 15, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Um...finesse and athleticism are closer to synonyms than antonyms.
The knock on Carter is low physicality (not mean), and low football IQ (not white). Lee is low physicality, and low athleticism (not black). This is the stereotype.
by CotySaxman on Aug 15, 2011 12:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
look up Vontaze Burfict on youtube.
you want the stereotype black linebacker….article in Sporting News labled him the meanest player in college football. The man is vicious.
"We were going to go out to Valley Ranch and use it as an opportunity to get back out in the heat and work, and I open up the curtains this morning very early and all of a sudden it was 68 and raining," Garrett said. "I said to the players, 'How big was the group prayer last night?' -Jason Garrett
by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Where did this white thing pop up?
I’m a huge Lissemore fan and I’m white myself.
Why must it always turn to race with you people?
You can accept the fact that your great “white” hope sucks, so you try rationalize it by saying my criticisms are based on his skin color. Seriously, you guys have some major deep seated issues that you need to deal with.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
I didn't bring it up...
And when I mentioned Lissemore, it was to suggest that you were NOT racist against white defenders.
This is on the Witten thread, too. My comments on the stereotype are sarcastic. If you noticed, I said that you were rushing to judgment after one preseason game.
by CotySaxman on Aug 15, 2011 8:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Butler and Ware next to each other would give offensive coordinators fits
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
Not understanding that sentiment at all.
Lee didnt play as much as I thought he should last year but what I do remember is him making plays in his limited role. INTs, TDs, tackles for losses on 3rd down. He always seem to be making plays when I saw him.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
This
I’m gonna come back to haunt Lisyyyyy when Lee turns out to be a star. And he can feel free to do the same to me if Lee becomes a bust like Carpenter.
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better to put Spencer next to Ware
amd put Butler on the other side
yeah that might work even better
Spencer is better against the run
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
The beautiful thing
Is with RR you will probably see that.
by aubatron2011 on Aug 14, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Make Spencer a down lineman
Start Ratliff and Spears and Hatcher
Sean Lee , Ware and Butler
put your best players on the field as much as you can
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 14, 2011 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
Uh...
Why, again, would we want to: a) bench our leading tackler from the last several seasons, and b) use a 4-3 base D…?
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 10:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
OR
Why would we bring in one of the most creative minds in using the 3-4…just to use a 4-3?
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 14, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
HIs dad was good at the 4-3 defense
The Cowboys D last year lacked pass rush and explosion
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 14, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
My dads a doctor- I have good guesstimates when people complain about health
but should I be operating on them?
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by KD Drummond on Aug 15, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 15, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
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They are both defensive coordinators. I am sure he knows both defenses.
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 15, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Because I think you put your best and most explosive players on the field.
To get the most pass rush and force the most turnovers,
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 14, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
...okay...
So you play 4 down linemen, with only Ratliff as a proven, consistent pass rusher (and barely).
You put the best 3-4 OLB in the NFL in a 4-3 OLB (coverage, run support) role.
You replace the leading tackler with a .5 year vet with tackling issues.
You put another pass rusher, this one with anti-run ineptitude, and put him, also, in a coverage/run support role.
Do you ser how this is bad in EVERY way?
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 11:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
just send everyone except for Lee at the QB
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 15, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
How was the pass rush last season.
Were you happy with the pass rush last season?
Did the Cowboys get a lot of sacks?
How about interceptions?
Defensive touchdowns?
Forced fumbles?
Tackles for a loss?
How many QB’s did the Cowboys force to the bench?
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 14, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is flawed logic. Common sales technique.
You ask questions with obvious, strong answers, believing that your alternative will automatically improve those things.
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 11:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
putting best players on the field might improve things
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 15, 2011 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Would it not be a bad idea to try it sometimes?
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 15, 2011 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Seams Like Victor Got Himself a Little Tude!
I Love Our Cowboys To Have Tude – Cause Right After Tude Comes SWAGGER
Just as long...
as it doesn’t lead to the next step…complacency.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone think...
…Butler could actually replace Spencer as the starter? I really don’t know. I read that Spencer is good at stopping the run and Butler is good at rushing the QB but I don’t know about his run-stopping skills.
ACtually I think that Spencer may get
Matt Roth’s role in Cleveland…but then Rat could get it too…
D*$N it confused myself Again…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 14, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
That's all part of the master plan.
Next up…human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Yup, welcome to Rob Ryan’s 3-4 D.LOL
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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 14, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
nobody steps on a church in my town!!!!
"We were going to go out to Valley Ranch and use it as an opportunity to get back out in the heat and work, and I open up the curtains this morning very early and all of a sudden it was 68 and raining," Garrett said. "I said to the players, 'How big was the group prayer last night?' -Jason Garrett
by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I know this
It seems as if every preseason game I watched last year and the game from Thursday that Butler is a beast. He also seems to get sacks in very limited time during real games. So WTF didn’t Wade play him more??!! I’d like to see what he can do with a lot more reps in games and perhaps push Spencer into living up to his 1st round pedigree.
by oregoncowboy on Aug 14, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally, no.
Spencer’s flash of pass-rushing skill was better than Butler’s flashes, in my opinion, and Spencer is far and away the better run stopper.
Saying Butler should replace Spencer is like saying we should replace Martellus with Kevin Ogletree at tight end…because, well, Ogletree if faster and has better hands!!! Only problem is that tight end requires more than just receiving ability. The same is true for SOLB. More than just a pass rusher.
Also, Butler, as a 1 dimensional player, is not RR’s RKG. RR likes diverse players, and, if you think back to pre-lockout, he loves Spencer.
by CotySaxman on Aug 14, 2011 11:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree on the initial statement
Spencer will forever be Mr Almost There.
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by SportsDrunk on Aug 15, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Why? Because it's fun to say?
Or because Madden gave him a “B” potential? I hope you were being sarcastic…
by CotySaxman on Aug 15, 2011 12:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Based on three and a half season's of watching him
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by SportsDrunk on Aug 15, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Almost get to the QB
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by SportsDrunk on Aug 15, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
put ware on the strongside every play and see how his numbers drop
"We were going to go out to Valley Ranch and use it as an opportunity to get back out in the heat and work, and I open up the curtains this morning very early and all of a sudden it was 68 and raining," Garrett said. "I said to the players, 'How big was the group prayer last night?' -Jason Garrett
by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Put Spence on the weakside
And he doesn’t get 1/3 of Ware’s sacks.
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he accomplished that last year already on the strongside.
Put him one player closer to the QB and he might not be almost Anthony anymore.
"We were going to go out to Valley Ranch and use it as an opportunity to get back out in the heat and work, and I open up the curtains this morning very early and all of a sudden it was 68 and raining," Garrett said. "I said to the players, 'How big was the group prayer last night?' -Jason Garrett
by TruBluToTheCore on Aug 15, 2011 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions
How can we judge Butler when he get the chance to prove what he can do??
Spencer has had plenty of chances to show what he can do…. Not much besides being solid against the run. That was all on Wade
by dcsince77 on Aug 15, 2011 5:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Coty Saxman" / "I am Ironman" - Fantastic Names!
I just realized my name on this blog sucks. Oregoncowboy. Wow, a Cowboys fan living in Oregon – very original!
Well, thanks.
But…this is my legal birth name. I don’t play the sax at all :(
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lol go learn its one of the easier instruments
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 15, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
and mine is simply the Literal interpretation of my Last name
Eisenman=Ironman in German
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 15, 2011 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Yea same here.
When my full name is translated from Canadian-French you get my tag. Some of us just have destiny running through our veins.
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 15, 2011 6:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
that is awesome....
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 15, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I love defensive guys talking like predators! lol
When you see Ware going after the QB on the move it’s like a lion hunting a wildebeest! The hunting mentality is exactly what these guys need.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
nope
dont think you have to worry about him taking spencer or ware spot with the different blitz packages you will see all three out there alot!
by rogerwhitedorcett on Aug 15, 2011 3:47 AM CDT reply actions
Depth Chart...
On reflection of this past game with the Denver Broncos can’t help but see that players like Butler, McGee, Harris & Radway produced good things on the field. Smith was just incredible as a rook on the right side. Felix Jones showed some break away speed and if he can remain healthy…he is dangerous wherever the Boys line him up. Mostly I hope the Cowboys focus on the depth chart…names like I have mentioned above standout that they have quality players down the numbers if case has it a starter is non productive or injured. Only a few preseasons game left so it is my hope Garrett does all he can to put his house in order.
Ratliff and Run Defense
Watching the game Thursday night, it was pretty disheartining watching the first team D-Line getting blown off the ball. It might have been the lack of time because of the stupid lockout spent in the offseason on technique and conditioning or as some of us have said our best D-Lineman Jay Ratliff on the field. But I pose this question to everyone, let’s say the run defense doesn’t improve with Ratliff back on the field, esp. considering he’s slim down to 285, do you think that may force our hand to get a bigger NT?
would be nice
If one of the players in the infamous backup draft turned into a player. Buehler was the lone bright spot,and that is pretty dim. Phillips will always be behind witten. Brewster sucks, and that is all that’s left of all those picks?!? Butler is our only hope from that draft.
BOOM!
by yevil knievil on Aug 15, 2011 1:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sean Lee is awesome
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