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Looking Ahead To The Chargers

In the preseason, looking at the next opponent is a bit futile, since the game will involve mostly backups trying to make the team.  But, hey, it's preseason for writers, too, and I am getting ready for looking ahead to the opposition when the real games roll around.

I'm not trying to dissect the offensive sets or what kind of schemes the defense is running.  My interest is to get a feel for where the team is, how things are going for them, and compare a little to what is going on with the Cowboys

San Diego is a good team playing in a division that, to be charitable, is not the strongest.  The biggest difference between the AFC West and the NFC West is that there is one good team in the AFC West.  Although the Broncos and Chiefs seem to be making some moves towards becoming better teams, at the moment, I would say the Bolts are the clear favorite going into the season.

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The Chargers seem to have a lot fewer questions to answer than the Cowboys, which should come as no surprise. Taking a look at what might become the final 53 for them, there looks to mostly be competition for who the backups will be.  

Obviously the team has its starting quarterback, barring injury.  Philip Rivers is an interesting QB to compare to Tony Romo.  I think if you were to ask random fans to list the top five quarterbacks in the NFL, there would likely be a general agreement on the first four.  In no particular order, I think the list would start with Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers, all of whom have that bling on their finger.  The real discussion starts with the fifth man in, and there are arguments to be made for both Rivers and Romo.  Both are statistically very good, and both have had a lack of success in the preseason.  Sadly, both will get very little playing time this week.  However many snaps Rivers takes in this game, it will likely be the best test the Rob Ryan defense will see before the start of the regular season.

The rest of the team seems pretty good, just a few injury questions and decisions to make about where to carry the most depth.  Running back is pure committee with Ryan Matthews coming off a 678-yard season and Mike Tolbert putting up 735 in 2010.  They also seem to like their rookie, 6th rounder Jordan Todman.  Jacob Hester should be the fullback.  The writer who projected the 53 I am taking this from seemed concerned about only going into the season with 4 total backs for the two positions.  I suspect he would be really concerned if he was looking at the Cowboys current situation with a healthy starter, a draft choice trying to get healthy enough to get on the field, and question marks at the other running back and fullback.

At receiver they are looking for Vincent Jackson to come back after his holdout last year, with Malcolm Floyd behind him.  One note of interest is that Patrick Crayton seems locked in at the 3rd receiver slot.  I wonder if he had stayed in Dallas, if he would have been happy with the same role, which the release of Roy Williams would likely have opened up for him.  The rest of the receivers will be fighting for touches.

Antonio Gates will be the starting tight end and pulling in most of the balls there.  

The offensive line is a mix of experienced starters and some young backups.  The only concern seems to be some injury problems guard Scott Mruczdowski that may keep him off the field.  But with Brandyn Dombrowksi, he does give them the most awesome old school name combo in the NFL.

Defensively, the teams seem to be in good shape.  The Cowboys will face a 3-4, which is certainly familiar.  The big news on this side of the ball seems to be the two free agent pickups I mention below.

If there is any angst for the San Diego fan base, it is not about the team personnel.  It is about whether their team might pack up and make a short trip into Los Angeles.  The NFL really wants to get back into that huge market, and the city is already working on building a stadium.  San Diego is one of the franchises that keeps getting tossed around as a possibility.  As you might expect, this is creating tons of concern for the fans of the Chargers.  That, at least, is one worry that I don't think we will have for a long, long time.

With one preseason game under their belt, the Chargers commentators are as much into parsing what they can learn from the game as we are.  Looking at the recap posted on Bolts From The Blue, the Chargers SBN blog, I did notice some interesting tidbits:

- Philip Rivers doesn't seem to have faced much pass rush.  Hopefully Rob Ryan has plans to change that.

- Doesn't sound like they have much rushing.  Rob, you listening?

- Bob Sanders, who came to the Bolts from the Colts (sorry, couldn't resist), seems to be making a difference in the defense.  Along with Takeo Spikes, who traveled down the coast from San Francisco, the team has picked up two veterans it is banking on to improve things on that side of the line.  It will be interesting to see how that plays out for them and compare it with the approach the Cowboys are taking under the salary cap limitations they face.

- Given that there might be more aggression defensively from the Chargers, this will give us a chance to see how the new offensive line holds up.  The tape review should be very interesting after this one.

Finally, one other thing that comes to mind is the head coach in San Diego, Norv Turner.  His connections to the two Super Bowl wins under Jimmy Johnson makes for an interesting thought, if not having much bearing on what plays out on the field.  And he is one of the big influences on Jason Garrett's career.  I always wonder if the protege tries a little harder when he faces the old mentor.

Those are some things I found to wonder about.  Yes, we won't see very much of most of the players I discussed above, but like I said, I need the practice, too.  What's on your mind concerning the Chargers, or are you just focused on how the Cowboys do?

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Love me some Romo

But I think Rivers is a better QB.

1) Brady 2) Rogers 3) Manning 4) Brees 5) Rivers. Romo somewhere between 6-10. But that’s good enough to win a Super Bowl with.

Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.

by Lord Humungus on Aug 18, 2011 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

+9

I love Romo but Rivers has a hell of an arm. And he played on a torn ACL while LT moped from the sidelines in the AFC Tittle Game. That takes guts!

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by Rat-Pack on Aug 18, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

ELI MANNING at THREE? WHHHAT?

Just kidding. Although he thinks he’s the Manning on your list.

He's good, but he's no Danny White!

by Shaymer on Aug 18, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

top 5 QBs don't throw 25 ints in a season

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by Antonio S on Aug 18, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

25 Int's last year

is only 3 more than number 4 on that list.

Disclaimer – This statement is NOT made in defense of Eli. It is just to provide a little perspective.

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by Pnut Gallery on Aug 18, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Payton

Never mention Simple Eli in the same breath as Romo.

Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.

by Lord Humungus on Aug 18, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shaymer knew that.
he thinks he’s the Manning on your list

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by fs65 on Aug 18, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha you see the artical where Eli says he is on the same level as Brady.

Cracks me up reading that.

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by Nord15 on Aug 18, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard one talking head say...

Eli may not be the 3rd best QB in his family!

by staubachfan on Aug 18, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. Manning (he has no coach and an average defense still wins) 2. Brady (he's great, but I think if manning and Brady were in the same system manning would be the better of the two)

3. Rogers 4. Brees 5. Romo 6. Rivers

Rivers screws up in the playoffs and I don’t think he is a very good leader. I think Rromo and rivers are about the same, but I give romo the slight edge.

by Dynamicduo on Aug 18, 2011 10:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rivers isnt a good leader?

I respect you cowboys fans a lot cause your usually very insightful, but Rivers is hands down one of the absolute best leaders in the game. Where do you get that hes a bad leader?

by cameronm on Aug 18, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where do you get that he's a good one?

I’m guessing it’s not from being in the huddle

by Dezstroyer88 on Aug 18, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

When has he made excuses?

Give me one example of a time he has made an excuse about losing or put blame on another teammate?

I know hes a good leader by listening to how his teammates talk about him. What kind of man he is off the field. Him playing in a championship game on a torn ACL less than a week after having surgery on it.

Its so easy to say “hes a whiner” but its just media, people dont really know what kind of person is so they just listen to the talking heads instead of thinking on their own.

by cameronm on Aug 18, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

also

when has he caused termoil with his team? id appreciate just one example.

by cameronm on Aug 18, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see how he acted towards Jay Cutler?

He acted like a 5 year old child. On more than one occasion he has blamed his receivers for dropping passes. You would never see Payton manning or Tom Brady act the way he has. You don’t think these things cause turmoil on a team? A QB is supposed to be the leader. He is supposed to be the one holding the team together, not acting like an immature child. I’m nit saying that Rivers isn’t a good QB because he is. But I also think his immaturity and lack of leadership when things get tough, is why they have yet to win a Superbowl. He’s still a well above average QB, but I wouldn’t chose him over Romo. That’s my opinion.

by Dynamicduo on Aug 18, 2011 5:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

when did he blame his recievers?

you keep bringing that up, but you refuse to give me one single example of him actually doing it. If you cant back it up your point is invalid. “Oh he yelled at Cutler 4 years ago, see hes a bad leader!” ha please. Cutler grabbed his junk and was taunting the chargers side line. Rivers just called him a baby, because he was being one.
The dude drives his kids to school, is a devote catholic, and doesnt even swear.
And im sure youd take Romo over rivers, and while i like Romo, i bet you wont fine one educated fan, who isnt a cowboys fan, who would agree with you.

by cameronm on Aug 18, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

and you bring up Brady

Remember when Ryan Clarke said the steelers would end the pats winning streak? what did brady do? he got in Clarkes face during the game. but since its brady i guess it ok.

by cameronm on Aug 18, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom Brady got in someone's face, like a man. Rivers stayed away and made fun, like a punk. There's no comparison between the two.

I’m not arguing anymore. I said romo and rivers were quit equal. The rest is my opinion. I’m not in the locker room. But I do recall in two different games, he got upset with his receivers over dropping balls. Instead of motivating them he bitched about it. Again he’s the number 4-6 QB in the league, I would want him on my team if we didn’t have Romo. And as u said, most of his immaturities were years ago, he seems to be growing into a better leader as he should.

by Dynamicduo on Aug 18, 2011 10:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

cutler started it

You must be confusing rivers with cutler. Cutler was the one who started it. Cutler got mad because rivers said way to go to his defense after stopping denver. Rivers triedf to burry the hatchet and offeredhis hand to shake hands but cutler refused. And it wass cutler who said “they ain’t no good, we can’t beat anybody” after thye chargers beat them in the final game of the year and went to the playoffs. If you don’t like rivers, so be it. But, get your facts straight befor you start masking acusations. You still haven’t posted one example to back up your claims. Why? because you can’t. It didn’t happen.

by irishlad on Aug 19, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

where did you get that?

I have never ever heard about Rivers making excuses or complaining. Maybe he’s not a leader in that he doesn’t get in peoples faces when they mess up. He leads by example. No knock on Romo, but how many games has he brought the team back where the special teams surrender two kick returns for touchdowns? Our special teams cost us probably 4 games last year. Two for sure.

by irishlad on Aug 18, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Romo is good, not great...

In the 7-11 range… good enough to win a SB with a good cast to support him… but not a natural like the Top 5, which includes Rivers.

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by LDVFootball on Aug 18, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rivers is in the top 5 without question...

smarts, arm strength, accuracy (on the long ball in particular)… Dude is an amazing physical specimen… prototype for all future QB’s…

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by LDVFootball on Aug 18, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fact is...

BTBer’s picked Rivers as Cowboys QB (Tony’s replacement) among active QB’s and Favre overall in a stats-based poll.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Aug 19, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about the guy in Pittsburg?

I think he has won two Super Bowls and played in a third. When he doesn’t play for them, they don’t do as well. I think he deserves to be in the top five surely. When we choose statistics, surely the most important one is Super Bowl wins.

Insert pithy statement here.

by Markythearky on Aug 18, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would put Big Ben in the same category as Romo and Rivers.

Also Matt Ryan of the Falcons. They are the next four that come to mind when I rank quarterbacks, and you can make an argument for all of them being the next to join the top four. Just not quite there yet, IMO.

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 18, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

So quarterbacks should only be rated on...

passes they complete to themselves? You know, since every time a WR, RB, TE or FB catch a pass it is no longer “individual greatness”.

My point being that while overall team success is not universally directly indicative of elite quarterback play, I would also have to argue that a quarterback’s statistics can be equally indicative of a great receiving corpse and not purely a reflection of their own greatness.

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by Pnut Gallery on Aug 18, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Receiving corpse.

Those zombies are everywhere nowadays.

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 18, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dang Zombies

they’re like cockroaches..can’t get rid of them….

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 18, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I seem to remember...

the Stealers going 3-1 to start last season with Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch at the helm while Ben was serving his suspension. And they just barely got beat by the Ravens in Week 4.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 19, 2011 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would seem, the Bolts are the poster child

Against the ‘volume stats’ argument – leading the league in both Off and Def, yet barely finishing above .500 and not making the playoffs. Curious.

BTW, can’t stand Rivers, but have to respect what he’s done. At this stage I would give him the edge over Romo.

Back in the late 90’s/early 00’s when I lived in Newport Beach, the big rumor was converting the El Toro Air Base site to a stadium venue for the Chargers to move up the road. Demographically, made a lot of sense – affluent OC fan base nearby and close enough to draw faithful from SD. Think the NFL required any team to be in LA, which I thought was extremely short-sighted.

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by tdships on Aug 18, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Worst Special Teams in the History of the NFL

That’s how you take the #1 offense and defense and not make the playoffs. It’s pretty simple. Not only that, the Special Teams was so bad it consistently gave the other team a short field to work with. That’s why the majority of the Chargers off season pick ups were on Defense. The Defensive stats were somewhat inflated but the offense was the real deal. Throw in the fact Rivers threw to 17 different receivers because of injuries and your #1 pick RB is injured most of of the season and you probably have the most underrated QB in the league.

by SDreal on Aug 18, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Romo

Did try and comeback into the game last year where he broke his collarbone, it was the training staff that wouldn’t let him do it. I would say that’s pretty gutsy. Bob Sanders may be having a great impact right now but eventually he will get hurt.

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by aubatron2011 on Aug 18, 2011 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

that's the majority view

But, I’ll wait untill it happens. (about Sanders) Lot’s of players get injured. Perhaps he will, who knows.

by irishlad on Aug 18, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ill prob just watch to see...

who on dallas steps up, plus.. ideally id like to see some of the youngins step up their game against a better team . now ill def be lookin at how much pressure we get on their qb and how our 2ndary looks. offensively , our o-line and run game , because this year we MUST have a good run game.

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by demonbane on Aug 18, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Romo is so under appreciated by many Dallas fans....

Time has made many forget how terrible the qb position was before he burst onto the scene. I hope he more than any other player on Dallas is able to secure a superbowl ring. When the defense sucks no one will balme Ware. When the team sucks it’s Romo’s fault.

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by football mensa on Aug 18, 2011 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

On the contrary,

Rivers does not seem to get much blame when it comes to their playoff failures… there is some, but mostly the blame is on the Coach and other extraordinary circumstances…

Here in Dallas, it’s all Romo’s fault. Romo is 100% a choker according to everyone. Hell, Philip Rivers has proved time and time again he’s also a bit of a baby off the field and not a tremendous leader. Why not question the Charger’s leadership as well?

by DonMoosavi on Aug 18, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unappriciated, yes

If Tom Brady is the best value in the modern draft, I still think Roger The Dodger is the best draft gem ever. That being said, Romo was totally undrafted. That’s awesome. I’m a huge fan of his, but he’s just so quirky. I’m glad his hats on straight though. Maybe that was the difference.

He's good, but he's no Danny White!

by Shaymer on Aug 18, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Questioning leadership seems to only happen when talking about the Cowboys.

At least so far, I haven’t run across anything like that for other teams. The media coverage seems to be stuck in a time warp about Romo, hangin’ in Cabo, knocking back ’ritas. Which would explain why it is so hard for them to let go of the old image of him.

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 18, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Dallas fanbase acts

so dumb when it comes to Romo. Even w/Parcells we weren’t that great until Romo entered the picture, while with crappy Wade, Romo’s offense masked cruddy coaching. Just look at the interval between Aikman and Romo (2001-2006), and the three games missed in 08. The fans attacking Romo act as if Tom Brady is on the market, waiting to come to Dallas or something. A 6-10 ranked QB should be enough if you have good coaching, solid D.

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by ScottB1985 on Aug 18, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rivers Blame...

Because for the most part, Rivers isn’t the reason we lose in the playoffs. It’s the bone headed plays by others that kill us.

by JYBaritone on Aug 18, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

True but...

Rives has yet to fumble a field goal snap to lose a playoff game…

by JYBaritone on Aug 18, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which goes back to a coaching error.

You should NEVER have your starting quarterback holding for a kicker.

by Alexcomestokill on Aug 18, 2011 2:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that snap wasnt the reason they lost

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by thebigham on Aug 18, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good preview

One small correction – I think you meant Rivers and Romo have had list success in the post season.

by doomsdayreturns on Aug 18, 2011 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Rivers > Romo.

You’re opening up a big debate when the Giants and Eagles fans come here.

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by DCyanks21 on Aug 18, 2011 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

and Vick gets no mention in the list. hmmm.

I think that Philly has made the “buy-the-ring-this-year” moves this off-season to be the best opponent we have in the division, but I watched Vick last year and as the season went on, his stats seem to wear down. Haven’t looked at the game by game to validate the thought, but I was happy to see that we weren’t jumping on the bandwagon saying he is the next great QB and will take them to the promised land. Romo has always been a mixed bag for me. I think he has a gunslinger attitude that needed to be molded by experience and coaching. I TRULY hope our rookie filled OL can keep him upright most of the time. I have faith in JG to coach this team, and the players are responding to Ryan as well.

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by HockeyRulez on Aug 18, 2011 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I really enjoyed watching Vick

just throw 3 interceptions in a preseason game.

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by Pnut Gallery on Aug 18, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate Pittsburg

But I was seriously routing for them to stomp Philly last night. :) it was nice to see the dream team look like the dislexic team. Pitt showed how to beat Philly, tight defense and run the ball.

by Dynamicduo on Aug 19, 2011 7:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Crayton was leaving regardless

If he stayed here the drop in the playoffs would have haunted him until he retired. Now he can have a similar role in a media market that’s worse criticism is that the chargers are a “slow starting team” If the boys had that same issue bspn would be blaming the coaches for not motivating or Ware doesn’t have the leadership to properly be accountable for every player or Tonys is having too much or too little fun with his blonde wife therefore his right arm is tired.

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by InkedKing on Aug 18, 2011 10:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Chargers

Aren’t the clear cut favorite. They only had like 1 win more than the team who swept the division last year …. the RAIDERS.

Clearly they are more talented and should be dominating that division, but they aren’t. They don’t play well within the division, as it’s usually toughest anyways. Possibly with a running game a bit more intact, they will be better off. There are some gaping holes in the trenches and much of the reason they struggle with even the Raiders. Chiefs are definitely up and coming and Denver to me is the wink link without a proven defense.

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by fuji1232 on Aug 18, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Play well within the division???

Dude, seriously?

2006 5-1
2007 5-1
2008 5-1
2009 5-1
2010 2-4

by JYBaritone on Aug 18, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

2-4 is pretty crappy within the division

when you are talking about winning the division

screw you and your logic -definitely not me

by fuji1232 on Aug 18, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

again, special teams

Special teams gift wrapped the looss to the chiefs and set up one of the losses to the raiders. A blocked punt resulting in a raider touchdown. I just hope the cowboys have as bad a special teams as the chargers had last year. You’d be lucky to win ANY games if your special teams were that bad.

by irishlad on Aug 18, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe they forgot to practice

ST wasn’t in their plans during practice, maybe that is why their offense and defense were so good :P

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by fuji1232 on Aug 18, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey...

Where’s the part where we get to explain that, with a backup qb, we were 7 points from finishing 9-7? Or that, in our 1-7 start, 5 losses were by a touchdown or less?

I mean, if we’re in the business of excuses here…

And as for special teams…our coach has a broken neck, and our kicker is a better linebacker than anyone on the Eagles’ roster, however has the consistency of Brett Favre’s retirement status.

by CotySaxman on Aug 19, 2011 1:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

There are a lot of changes on the Chargers Defense.

Some of the changes I posted over on another thread: http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/8/14/2362190/strange-cowboys-controversies#74684508

Shaun Merriman and Antwan Applewhite are gone and Larry English was demoted in favor of rookie Jonas Mouton at OLB.
Kevin Burnett and Brandon Siler are gone and Takeo Spikes and James Holt are in at ILB.

As a matter of fact, the only starting LB from last year that is still shown as a starter in their current depth chart is Shaun Phillips. They’ve completely gutted and rebuilt their LB corps.

They’ve got a new DC since Ron Rivera left to become the HC at Carolina.

They’ve now got Bob Sanders as their starting SS.

That’s a lot of changes. It’ll be interesting to see how all of those new pieces work with a new DC.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 18, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

correction

Moulton is backing up Spikes at ILB… English is working out with the first string D.

by JYBaritone on Aug 18, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

and james holt is cut

not a lot of correct information there..

by cameronm on Aug 18, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I get for working off depth charts from Fox Sports.

Glad we had some Chargers fans that actually follow the team to set me straight.

Rabid and luvin' it

by lonewolfz28 on Aug 19, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cason starting at CB now?

And, of course, you got Weddle… Was really hoping Jerry would steal him from you. Smart guy, always in the area of the ball…

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by LDVFootball on Aug 18, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Almost there

Stephen Cooper is back at ILB, but this year as a backup. The Chargers are high on Donald Butler, who was slated to start last year as a rookie but had an Achilles injury. English is back but he’s in competition with Barnes and LaBoy for the other side opposite S. Phillips. Spikes is definitely an upgrade at ILB as run defense up the middle has been a bit of a liability at times. There’s no way Corey Luiget doesn’t upgrade the run defense as well. He was touted as the best run stuffing lineman in the entire draft. I hear B. Sanders is pretty good… when he can stay on the field. I think the Defense got better this year. Special Teams will improved so I doubt they’ll be statistically ranked #1 again. That was sort of a fluke due to defending way too many short fields and giving up entire possessions on kick returns for TDs. But top five might be possible this year. If B. Sanders stays healthy, watch out. Yes, big ’if".

by SDreal on Aug 18, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guys guys guys....

Eli’s full name is really

Elisha Nelson Manning

Look…

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannEl00.htm

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by DCyanks21 on Aug 18, 2011 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Nothing wrong with a biblical name

"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"

by StrosSouth on Aug 18, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Biblical?

Never knew that. Sounded like a girls name. Like Quanisha or something.

I pictured Eli giving us some sassy attitude with 3 snaps and a circle.

A hmmmmmmmmmmm

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by DCyanks21 on Aug 18, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, .....

Is his name now Elisha or Nelson on this site?

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by eightball on Aug 18, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

True.

But most people are also only called by one.

All eightball was asking was whether we here at BTB are going to start referring to him as either Elisha or Nelson.

I don’t really see how your response was called for…..

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by Pnut Gallery on Aug 18, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was joking. Chill out.

Love how some people get so eager to correct other people over the internet because they joke in sarcasm.

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by DCyanks21 on Aug 18, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

the key is DC

to use “sarcasm font” Like this:

Some people have First, Middle, and Last names!

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 18, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

How 'bout Nellie?

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 18, 2011 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Reply fail, should have been to eightball above.

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 18, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like 'Nellie'!

We had a horse named Nellie.

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Aug 18, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

what do guys think about when Norv gets fired

He comes back to Dallas and becomes OC/assistant HC?? Or Sparano when gets canned for the same postion??

by dcsince77 on Aug 18, 2011 1:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

If we didn't have Romo, I'd take Rivers

Rivers is dang good. He led the league in passing yards last year, with no real running game, and completed passes to something like 137 different receivers. I think they were pulling wide receivers off the street toward the end of the season.

by Plano on Aug 18, 2011 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome to the blog, Julian

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 18, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newbie Rec!!!

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 18, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since you are ranking

I would have Rothlesburger at 7, Matt Ryan of the Falcons at 8, and Schaub/Eli pretty much tied for 10. I also would have Brees ahead of Rivers on resume, and as I said earlier I see it as a tossup between him and Rivers.

Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Aug 18, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

*tossup between him and Romo.

My internet connection is being weird and I am hurrying to get my comments posted before the 3G speed drops off.

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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Aug 18, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we didn't have Romo I wouldTake Vick Thats alot of talent on one team...

think about what he would do with 2elite WRs and Witten and felix in shotguns

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by syco bob on Aug 18, 2011 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

while I wouldn't want Vick

I wouldn’t mind seeing what Garrett and Wilson could do with VY…..

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 18, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

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