Battle Of The Backups: Kevin Ogletree Vs. Dwayne Harris
With the departure of Roy Williams, many have penciled Kevin Ogletree in as the third wide receiver on the depth chart. However, his performance at practice this week has been disturbingly reminiscent of last year, when he did not seem to do much to establish himself as a reliable option for Tony Romo. Dropped passes are not the kind of thing to inspire faith among the coaches. Now rookie Dwayne Harris has drawn a lot of attention with his 5 catches for 127 yards and two touchdowns in the first preseason game.
The third wide receiver spot on the Cowboys is really the fourth option in the passing game, thanks to the presence of Jason Witten. It is the player that will spell Miles Austin and Dez Bryant, and also will be used in the occasional three receiver formation. But the real importance is to be the backup should Miles or Dez be unable to go. I hate to even allude to the "i" word, but there has to be a plan for one of them missing a start. Here is a look at the decision that the coaches need to make as the preseason continues.
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Ogletree was doing well the first two weeks of camp. Reports seemed to be good on him. Meanwhile, the concerns with the offensive line and the defensive backfield sucked up most of the attention. In the Broncos game, he caught 2 balls for 22 yards, which was not bad, although he and everyone else was overshadowed by the surprising night Harris had.
The most disturbing thing was his lackluster day on Tuesday, when he only caught one ball and dropped three. And these were passes from Tony Romo. Not only was he giving the coaches reason to doubt him, but he was showing the starting quarterback that he might not be a trusted target. There have been some accusations that Tony tends to really favor the receivers he trusts *cough* according to T.O. *cough* and this kind of performance would not bode well if there is any truth to that. This is something that can be overcome with solid work during the rest of the preseason, but at this point it is on his shoulders.
History is not in his favor. Last year, he also had a good start, and then faded into the woodwork. I am not sure how tolerant Jason Garrett is on this. Is he going to be patient and give Kevin a chance to work through his issues, or is he likely to start giving Harris the first team chances? I don't know, but Kevin better get his game together fast just to be safe.
Harris is attractive. Caution must be used in evaluating him on one preseason game against a bunch of other backups and scrubs, but those numbers still stand out. There are people who question his speed, but he certainly had something to cut loose on that exciting 76 yard TD. I read a comment on another article (I haven't been able to track it down so I apologize to whoever made it) that compared him to Wes Welker, who has never been called the fastest guy on the field. Welker is the OCC of receivers. You don't know exactly how he does it, but he does his job with great precision and superb efficiency, and you underestimate him at your peril. If (a very big word that) Harris has that kind of potential, he could become a potent weapon for the Cowboys.
Of course, the big problem is that he is a rookie. Relying on rookie receivers can be a dangerous option, not everybody is Dez Bryant from last year.
There is always the outside chance that another receiver will step up, but I think that is a real long shot. Right now, the fifth receiver, assuming they keep five total, is almost certainly to be a special teams body, and that race is wide open.
Once again, I find myself seething at the impact of the suckage of the lockout on the Cowboys. If the team had been able to work Harris and Ogletree during a normal offseason, this might be a much more settled situation. But they didn't. The situation is what it is, to coin a phrase, and now the team has to figure out who is going to become the primary backup for the first two receivers. I certainly don't see a clear favorite this early in the preseason.
It's just one more thing to watch for on Sunday.
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Since I wrote this, reports are that Miles will likely be out Sunday.
One of these players will get those reps with the first team. I’ll be very interested to see who.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
"Harris is attractive"
Suspicious if you were Chia
"Our guys are gonna be good, and we know it. So that ain't talkin'. That's just the (bleepin') way it is." - Rob Ryan
You know I didn't mean it that way.
But he is a good lookin’ fella.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Yeah, he's hot.
"I will not and have not ever forgiven Crayton. I wish him the worst luck of any player ever." - footballmensa 08/17/11
by Nickthegrip on Aug 18, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So, I agree y'all can dump the cheerleader pics for pics of these guys you are calling hot.
As long as they are dressed in outfits that aren’t much bigger than the one the cheerleader wears. :P
here ya go Rena
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sorry I could find any of Harris In the Bryant Get-up…
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 18, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Man card, please
Let’s not make a scene, just slide it over and step back….
Don't believe everything you think.
only did it for Rena....
Can’t help it if my grandmother raised me to be a gentleman…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 18, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, c'mon dunk. Do you watch TV now days? Bro-mance is okay. Man-crush is okay. I'm old and even I know that. For you, Rena.

July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!
"I don’t know if we win all-hype team. I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them." - Rob Ryan
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by fs65 on Aug 19, 2011 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Much better, made my morning. ;)
TY, and a rec for the trouble.
Depending on the scheme and health
WR4 might be the 5th option behind a felix or demarco in the flat or slip screen.
Another random thought….
2008 and 2009 all we ran were draw plays. The defense knew it, the fans knew… even my girlfriend would call out a draw but most teams couldn’t stop it…..
New young athletic OL makes 2011 Dallas Cowboys: Return Of The Draw
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so far we have run it once against Denver
it sucked then too,,,,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 18, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
no matter the scheme or the option all teams need a legit #3 WR.
sticking any old scrubb out there just wont get it done even if you have Witten & Felix
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Yup
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
I was the person who compared Harris to Welker
Thanks for giving me a chance to credit you.
I looked around, but I had to get on with writing the post. I freely admit I stole the idea, but I only steal from the very best.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
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I appreciate it man.
Glad to be of service.
by CowBearsFan on Aug 18, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually had seen a comment in the past couple of weeks on an article
but I would bet your original post is what planted the seed, and I do remember it now that I have gone back over it.
I really hope you are right. Put a Welker type out there with Miles, Dez and Witten – mmmm. Tasty.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
And I was the guy who was quite "annoyed" at the comparison.
To say the least.
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 18, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Sillyness... oh my goodness I don't even know where to begin...
So I won’t. Just ridiculous… You should be ashamed of yourself.
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 19, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
And just so I'm clear...
My issue is not whether or not Harris is bigger, faster or stronger than Welker, but that you’re implying when you say that Harris is annoyed at the comparisons because he’s beyond Wes Welker is what’s making me want to vomit.
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 19, 2011 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Amendola was a Welker type but we all saw how that worked out.
not many Welker types make it in the NFL for a lot of reasons so hopefully Harris reminds people of someone else.
also wanted to say Amendola would look pretty decent in the slot this year after seeing the job he’s done with the Rams.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Don't understand this comment,
are you saying Amendola has done well or poorly.
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 19, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice touch.
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 18, 2011 7:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I want Harris to be the number 3
He showed more passion in one preseason game then KO has shown his whole time here. The fact he’s catching on quickly and performing has me excited. I won’t compare him to Welker just yet, but I think he is a viable option.
Semper Fi Do or Die
Thanks a lot Nnamdi for wasting a whole day of productivity at work and stressing me out. Now we get to destroy you twice a year and I'll call us even.
"LOL. U lost by not reading the link. KA-POW" - football mensa / clarifying to me how to maturely win a debate
IMO The problem it that Harris is a slot guy. He was the first game and he was in college. If miles or Dez go down Harris won’t bump outside Ogletree will. He is better suited as an outside receiver.
by Mac_Eleven on Aug 18, 2011 2:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wes Welker is rarely put out wide. Harris should be our slot in three receiver sets.
by Mac_Eleven on Aug 18, 2011 2:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I tend to see this point as well
Harris being the slot receiver doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the backup at WR, although he could be.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
they can't afford to lose Austin or Dez & they have no backup plan in house.
kinda like they had a swing tackle last season
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Oh stop. This is the same argument about McGee.
If we lose Romo for any significant amount of time, the season is over anyway.
And it can be argued that if we lose Miles or Dez for a long time, the season is over too.
So stop worrying about who the 3rd QB is and who the 5th WR is.
July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!
"I don’t know if we win all-hype team. I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them." - Rob Ryan
"I did a couple of push-ups, grabbed a couple of protein shakes and said, I'm ready to do it, Coach!" - Victor Butler
Someone CAN argue that if we lose miles or dez for a long time that the season is over too,
but it would be a foolish argument. One WR missing games doesn’t END our season,. Especially when we have another pro bowl receiver, pro bowl tight end, pro bowl QB and a solid RB.
Secondly this is nothing like McGee. QB is the single most important position in ANY team sport.
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 19, 2011 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm on your side in this debate.
I replied to the guy who said we can’t afford to lose Austin or Dez, and told him to stop and not worry about the 5th WR.
July 26th, 2011. The day the new era of the Dallas Cowboys began!
"I don’t know if we win all-hype team. I think that might have gone to somebody else, but we’re going to beat their ass when we play them." - Rob Ryan
"I did a couple of push-ups, grabbed a couple of protein shakes and said, I'm ready to do it, Coach!" - Victor Butler
We didn't have Dez before last year, and only had him part of the year.
With the other one and Witten, Felix, etc we are fine.
And what has led you to believe KO can be a #2??
He hasn’t ever solidified the #3 spot given opportunities to do so, much less be a legit #2. Come on man
Semper Fi Do or Die
Thanks a lot Nnamdi for wasting a whole day of productivity at work and stressing me out. Now we get to destroy you twice a year and I'll call us even.
"LOL. U lost by not reading the link. KA-POW" - football mensa / clarifying to me how to maturely win a debate
Agree 100%
Ogletree has had his shot. If he blows it and Harris seizes the moment, I am all for it.
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speakin of sandiego......
didnt they fraft a lb high the same year dallas to d-ware, ahhh mr merriman … yeah thats him, he got bused commin bk from canada with alot of steroids on em loil …..hmmm wonder what kind of season hes goin to have in buffaloe loil.
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
oyee draft and busted loil .......
woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
If Harris
has another game or two like his first then Ogleetree better get acquainted with the bench
by bEWARE OF dWARE on Aug 18, 2011 1:09 PM CDT reply actions
Get acquainted?
I thought the two of them were already pretty heavily involved….
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by Pnut Gallery on Aug 18, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Semper Fi Do or Die
Thanks a lot Nnamdi for wasting a whole day of productivity at work and stressing me out. Now we get to destroy you twice a year and I'll call us even.
"LOL. U lost by not reading the link. KA-POW" - football mensa / clarifying to me how to maturely win a debate
Kevin Ogletree
has “I need a coach to be a hard@$$ and never let up on me so I’m productive” look to him
RKG that’s not a self-starter? Is that an oxymoron?
Ich bin ein Berliner--JFK
Sounds like an oxymoron to me
Besides if he’s not trying to be better than he was yesterday, and doing that every day, then I don’t want him no matter how much talent he’s got.
RKG’s are self motivating and do NOT feel entitled. I definitely get the vibe that Tree thinks he’s entitled ‘cause he’s got so much talent. But in the NFL, everybody’s got talent – obviously some more than others. But remember Bill Bates? Constant over-achiever. That’s an RKG. And it seems like Harris has that – IMO.
When in doubt, empty your magazine
Nice to know -
Number three won’t be huge salaried Roy Williams!
I hope the rookie gets it, but if he does, expect some rookie mistakes along the way.
Go Dwayne Harris! Be the Isiah Stanback we all thought Isiah Stanback could be.
Please no Stanback comparisons lol
Semper Fi Do or Die
Thanks a lot Nnamdi for wasting a whole day of productivity at work and stressing me out. Now we get to destroy you twice a year and I'll call us even.
"LOL. U lost by not reading the link. KA-POW" - football mensa / clarifying to me how to maturely win a debate
Ogletree is a frustrating player to me
Seems like the talent is there to be a pretty good receiver in this league, but he seems to lack the will to be the best he can be. That’s total speculation of course, but that’s the vibe I’ve always gotten.
He is frustrating. Too inconsistent and therefore unreliable.
I could easily see why Romo could lack confidence in him. If he doesn’t step up and focus on his assignments and basic techniques, he shouldn’t be given the third receiver job. I’d rather go with Harris and pick up a veteran WR than put up with more of the same from Tree.
Wish you were here
There are more possibilities with a...
Dez, Austin, Ogletree combo than a Dez, Harris, Miles combo. On 3-WR sets, you can flip Austin and Ogletree to create mismatches. Harris is not a credible outside receiver if you flipped him with Austin. He doesn’t have the speed.
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
I don't think so
Dez or Austin, 1 reciever, Witten, 2 recievers, Murry or Jones, 3 recievers, Bennett, 4 recievers and Phillips out of the h back spot 5 recievers,,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 18, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah....and last year went so well.
I get what you’re trying to say, but it’s not quite getting there.
Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable. -- Tom Landry
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. -- Emo Philips
by Pnut Gallery on Aug 18, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you remember Bill Parcells
In his pressers talking about the lull players would suffer in pre season, I dont remember everything but I do remember QB’s accuracy would suffer, WR’s would drop the ball ect——-,
Bill said they would be tired, sore, and lose focus. I also remeber he was explaining Tony Romos eratic throws in practice
any body else remeber this better than me?
oh yea I forgot the point
could this be what ogletree is going through?
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 18, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It was one practice...
as reported mainly by the mediots at ESPNDallas. I will wait to see for myself.
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
Don't see much in the way of excuses coming out of camp this year.
Maybe Garrett just expects the players to give their best? Just sayin’.
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Veteran Help
I really think they need to consider bringing in a veteran. There are a few out there that may be of some help to us. Mark Clayton comes to mind though he is coming off a big injury. The guy i like is TJ Houshmandzadeh. He is a veteran presence runs good routes and only 2 years ago had a 79 catch season. Last years stats with baltimore werent fantastic but were a respectable 30\398\3. And while were on the topic of veterans i think Jerry should be on the phone trying to convince Joe Nedney to unretire. The guy is an 80% lifetime kicker and i think would relish the chance to be in a winning team.
All QBs throw to receivers they trust, it's just not Romo
I had Harris penciled in as the 3 receiver since the draft and he is playing like I thought he would.
Olgetree is just too inconsistent and thats a shame because the kid is pretty talented.
In Romo we Trust
trusting either Harris or Ogletree is sticking your neck out there.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
I Don't Think So
You can’t have all pro players or even proven veterans for all 53 spots on the team. We’re talking about the 4th or 5th option. If something does happen to Dez or Miles long term I’m sure we can pick up a FA if necessary down the road. Why put a progress stopper in place now.
I think we’ll be fine at WR.
as was trusting
Romo, Austin, Free, Ratliff (at nose),
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 18, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Nicely played.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
I say Harris Give Harris a shot in the slot with The 1st team...
Austin is out so OTree gets the start at wideout and give harris the 3WR spot with first O
If OTree is a threat on the outside is much as hes bee hyped he’ll shine but…
If harris does a looks better than OTree does in the slot…GIVE THE KIDD A SHOT
I WAS BORN AND RAISED A COWBOYS FAN IN WASHINGTON,DC...
I wonder...
if any of our wide receivers that may face being cut loose could play corner back. I know, this may sound nuts to some, but teams draft players and change their positions in the NFL. QB’s become receivers, some linemen change from offense to defense, and even now the Cowboys are trying a LB at FB.
maybe Jerry takes a flyer on T.Pryor & grooms him to be a WR.
honestly if Pryor fell to the 6th or 7th rd his ability at WR is worth it. i’ve seen him make a few decent catches at ohio st & his athletic ability is off the charts.
maybe the next H.Ward
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Is Pryor the RKG?
Its bad enough he lied about the entire selling game & team merchandise for money and services. But now, suddenly, he says he and his family took money from an agent. Would he have ever admitted to that if it did not help him get into the supplemental draft? I doubt it.
He just seems like a real dirt bag to me. Very selfish.
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
I dont think he will wear the star
as long as Garrett runs the ship
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Are you guys saying that I've been wasting my time waiting for Ogletree to start. Now, along comes
Dwayne Harris, and right out of the box, he’s a better option that Kevin. Really. This makes the SD game even more interesting.
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Ogletree is really frustrating and it is starting to annoy me
he is so inconsistent
I want him to be the #3 but I just can’t trust the guy, I have more trust in the rookie from ECU than a veteran right now
Dwayne Harris should be the #3, Sunday he gets to prove it
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 18, 2011 5:28 PM CDT reply actions
i think the issue isnt about which one keep but which one to start and honestly Ogletree has so many places where he’s shown flashes of stability and flashes of mediocrity however Harris has taken advantage of his very few opportunities and appears the more hungry for the spot i see harris taking the spot if ogletree doesnt step up
by Julian Williams on Aug 18, 2011 5:29 PM CDT reply actions
Harris just looks like the real deal
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 18, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
He stood out against the Denver Three's
Before I’ll annoint him as the next comming of Dez Bryant, I wanna see what he does against the San Diego One’s and Two’s. If he can get open and catch the ball, he’s better than Tree IMO.
Harris stands out this week? Put the Star on his helmet…
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
The best thing about Harris
He caught EVERY BALL that came his way. Thrown 5 balls, caught each of them.
The next best thing is the way he talks about catching in traffic. He says that all he is worried about is catching the ball, not the hit. Even if one is coming, he is just thinking, I need to catch this ball. That is the kind of guy you need going over the middle. Now if that translates to the NFL level with bigger faster players to nail you for doing so, then this guy deserves to be the #3.
I want Austin, Bryant, Harris, Ogletree, and Radway. And if we keep a sixth then Holley for the special teams play…
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." –Vince Lombardi
Yep, totally agree
And for those worried about 2 rookies, Holley knows the system and seems to try and do everything he can to play – anywhere he can. Witness his willingness on ST. He could step in at a higher level (2nd or 3rd) in a pinch and it wouldn’t be terrible. He’s a RKG – IMO
When in doubt, empty your magazine
I'd have McGee feed him the ball all game.
And how bout an atta boy for Radway! He’s my pet Cheeta.
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 18, 2011 7:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Radway doesn't even know what route he's supposed to be running...
Sorry Shaymer, nothing personnal. IMO, Radway hasn’t done squat so far. I hope he does well cause that’s good for him and the Boys. We need some reciever to step up sooner rather than later or go get a veteran somewhere.
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
How long will Dez be in the game?
I’m also interested to see how he does as the #1 WR He’ll draw the best coverage, so I will be curious to see if he can remain productive regardless of that. Oh and he does need the reps, as he’s only a second year player, so he could be in for a little while.


























