Dallas Cowboys C/G Phil Costa Injures Knee, May Miss 2011 Opener Against New York Jets
by Tom Ryle on Aug 26, 2011 2:02 PM CDT
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The Dallas Cowboys' second year C/G Phil Costa suffered an injury Thursday. According to the mothership, the PCL sprain will not require surgery, but will keep him out for 2-4 weeks for rehab.
Along with the three rookie offensive linemen drafted by Dallas, Costa was a key element in the o-line remake going on in Dallas. A recent FanPost here on BTB by Musiccitynorm breaks down his play by play performance and shows why he was starting to be discussed as a replacement for Andre Gurode as the starting center.
That talk is going to be silenced at least for a couple of weeks while he gets his knee rehabbed. It also makes the offensive line depth for the Cowboys more worrisome than it was, and increases the importance of the rookie linemen that have been creating so much excitement during the preseason.
One of the unknowns facing the Cowboys going into the regular season is who is going to be at left guard. It is looking more and more that the coaches are going to roll with first round pick Tyron Smith at RT and veteran Kyle Kosier as RG. Smith has been opening eyes, and in multiple looks at his play by play performance, such as KD Drummond's most recent one, it is clear that the team is already much better off than it was with Alex Barron playing in the season opener in 2010.
More on the impact of Costa's injury after the jump
Doug Free has a firm grip on the LT job, and now Gurode will certainly be snapping the ball for the first regualr season game against the Jets. But the player penciled in as the left guard, Montrae Holland, came to camp out of shape and promptly went out with his own injury issues. In his absence, Costa and the two rookies David Arkin and Bill Nagy got a lot of playing time at guard and center in the first two preseason games. Costa has looked very good, Arkin started strong against Denver but had a less impressive game playing the Chargers, and Nagy was bit under the radar and seems to have done a better job in the second preseason game. For a more extensive view of where the line was before the injury, see Kegbearer's excellent post on fixing the Dallas O line issues.
With Costa now out, Arkin and Nagy both will get more snaps, with Nagy probably becoming the backup for Gurode. Unless Holland gets himself back on the field, which is looking more doubtful as the preseason winds down, it looks quite likely that the Cowboys will start the season with two rookies on the o-line. Based on the most recent reviews here on BTB, Nagy looks to have the lead for the LG starting job, but Arkin will have a chance to make his own case in the last two preseason contests.
This also is likely to stir up the discussion of whether Jerry Jones needs to be shopping the free agent market for a veteran lineman or two. With uncertainty about when Costa and Holland will be ready to go, there may be a real need to get someone in for at least the first month of the season. And tackle depth is shady, with Sam Young not having a good preseason, leaving UDFA Jermey Parnell as the only other option on the roster.
At least Costa is expected to only miss one or two regular season games at most. Holland is another question entirely. If Costa had not gotten hurt, I think Holland was very likely to be cut. Now, he may be saved at least temporarily by the Costa injury, but I think the reprieve will be short lived. When Phil gets back, I think there is an excellent chance Montrae will be gone.
Meanwhile, let us all hope and pray the injury bug goes away.
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much better off than it was with Alex Barron playing in the season opener in 2010
That’s like saying Bluto is tougher than Olive Oyl. Only difference is, if you gave Olive some spinach she might clean his clock, while Alex has no shot at ever being a worth more than a pro wrestler on the football field.
Olive Oyl
How hot was that chick? I think it was the boots that did it for me.
"I will not and have not ever forgiven Crayton. I wish him the worst luck of any player ever." - footballmensa 08/17/11
MOM!
You’re embarrassing me in front of my friends!
"I will not and have not ever forgiven Crayton. I wish him the worst luck of any player ever." - footballmensa 08/17/11
"Hello Olivesk!"
said in Popeye voice
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
Costa's injury, thank God, will keep him out only 2-4 weeks.
So he’ll probably miss at most the opening game and with any luck no games. The situation with Holland, Young and Parnell is more troublesome. We may need to look for some veteran help if these guys don’t produce in the final 2 games.
Wish you were here
he has a hurt back
chronic back problembs I think?
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I was on the Brian Waters train for awhile
and would not be pissed off if they added him but I have come to believe that we will be just fine with Nagy or Arkin.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 26, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree,
but if we need to replace Young, Holland, or maybe Parnell, as a backup we’ll need to find someone reliable. Don’t know Waters physical condition, but we can look at him or see who’s waived at the final cuts.
Wish you were here
I would see this:
A vet to replace Young, keep Parnell who is raw but shows talent, cut Holland. Nine OL players:
Free, Gurode, Kosier, Costa, Smith, Nagy, Arkin, Parnell, free agent OT.
Sound good to anyone?
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Absolutely
We will sign plenty of lineman, offensive and defensive.
Everythings gonna be alright.
JG
Will not allow the beloved Tony Romo to be protected by a team of rookies. Not tryin to pee in anybody’s cheerios, I am enthusiastic about the young guys too.
Everythings gonna be alright.
I'm not sure
Rafeal Vela has an article up about the team increasing the wide recievers rout tree, , the coaches believe something has changed,,,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but probably not on purpose
Smith is playing day one. Holland is not holding down a starting position and will be beat out by one of the rookies. The odd are that Gurode or Koiser will miss some time due to injury at one point in the season.
So the team will have three rookie starters at that point.
Take a look at this
I put this in Musiccitynorm’s post on Arkin.
Sometime this year we could see the following starting Oline:
Free/5th year player and Smith/rookie at tackles.
Arkin/rookie and Nagy/rookie at guards
Costa/2nd year player at center
Kosier, Gurode, Young or free agent, and Parnell as backups (notice anyone missing?)
Think about what that does for the future.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Done. So long as the FA OT's...
…a short-term, low-cost, post-final-cuts signing. The mentor-type RKG comes purely from it being JG’s call.
Cry 'Havoc!'
No No No
the mentality of rushing out and picking up “veteran” help for someone who might miss 1 or maybe 2 games at the most is the same that got JJ into cap hell.
Right now, Phil Costa is a backup player filling in for an injured Gurode. If both Gurode and Costa can’t make it back, there are still 2 preseason games to look at Arkin and Nagy. Yes, that’s 3 rookies starting but that’s why you have backups.
Sooner or later, Dallas is going to have to realize that the backups are there for a REASON and even if they’re rookies, you put them in and deal w/ whatever they can/can’t do. The Boys aren’t realistically contending for the Superbowl next year . . . let’s see what the young guys can do.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Aug 27, 2011 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Except the contending for Superbowl next year part.
"I will not and have not ever forgiven Crayton. I wish him the worst luck of any player ever." - footballmensa 08/17/11
Costa was not going to be the starter
Just was not going to happen. Some here got carried away and forgot some very important things
1) with the short off season no OTA etc it was going to be very hard for a young player to break into the line up to begin with.
2) one rookie starting is one thing; two is another and basically three (Costa has not been around very long either) was NEVER going to happen outside of injury
3) Gurode had that injury and was not in shape and has had to work to get back to ready to start and that has been slowly happening
4) Red Ball has been working the psychology bit and those thinking he was saying Costa was about to beat out Gurode either wittingly or unwittingly led them selves get sucked-one reason he did not use the oppurtunity when bennet blathered about Kitna deserving a shot to start to slap the idiot down ws that he wants to make sure the vets know that nothing for anyone outside of Ware or Romo is a given
Gurode is a pro bowler and a top 100 player in the league
very underrated by Cowboys fans sometimes.
However, I’m looking forward to seeing Costa start in 2-3 years, possible as soon as next year. I’m glad we’ve got someone at least pushing Gurode in case he starts slipping
+1
Gurode is definitely underrated but like you said he’s getting up there in age. It’s nice to see we have someone in the pipeline to replace him
by somebodyquiet on Aug 26, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
+2
Gurode is better than Costa. The NFL players rated him as like the 80th best overall player or something close to that. Jerry and JG are using the media to motivate Gurode.
Everythings gonna be alright.
As BP preached
Every preseason, every veteran has to show you he can still do it and you better have a guy who can do it if he can’t.
Costa is the backup
which is a good thing in this case so there should be no rush to bring him back. Gurode, probably his last season here. Costa replaces him next season and so the youth movement continues.
I think
Before the season That we will have 3 young O-lineman playing full time.
by tattooed cowboy on Aug 26, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
So rookies shouldn't start if its better for the team?
I’m all for Gurode going on since he’s been solid as long as healthy but I don’t really care if a players a rookie, 1 year vet, or 6 year vet, if they are doing better then the previous starter they should play.
I've stated how I feel until I'm blue in the face
again, if were going to blow it up, then blow it up, don’t try to ease into a scheme change. Some here don’t think its a scheme change, some here think Gurode can execute the new blocking scheme,
I don’t think either of those are possible, If were wern’t so lucky to have drafted these young guys then maybe we stick with Young, and Holland, I in some ways think the plan all along was to go big this year and small next year, but we hit a home run in the draft.
I certianly will be watching to see what they ask Gurode to do.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
2013
On February 20, 2007, the Cowboys re-signed Gurode to a six-year contract worth US$30 million including a $10 million signing bonus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Gurode
With only two years left I could see the boys keeping him and using him as a backup for a future player. I don’t think he’d be angry at it either.
Gurode really is to good to be a back up
the players voted him a top 100 player in the league,,,,, He has value, but more value to other teams, laugh if you want but Tennessee need a running back and center, They have Griffen at sefety and Finnigan at CB whom the new coaching staff has all but said they don’t want,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I should say
Choice and Gurode for Griffin and Finnigan,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
We could probably afford it
Michael Griffin CB $3,310,500
Cortland Finnegan CB $3,293,000
Andre Gurode C $5,500,000
Tashard Choice RB $555,000
Choice would be affordable to the Titans.
Finnigan
I s he the one that is knowen to be a drity player?? He he be the RKG???
by tattooed cowboy on Aug 26, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
From Wikipedia
On-field incidents
In September 2010, Finnegan was fined $5,000 for throwing New York Giants wide receiver Steve Smith to the ground by his helmet.3 In October 2010, Finnegan was fined $10,000 for unnecessary roughness after hitting Denver Broncos guard Chris Kuper after Kuper’s helmet was off. After this incident, the NFL warned Finnegan that similar violations in the future could lead to increased discipline.4 On November 28, 2010, Finnegan was involved in a fist fight with Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson. Each player was ejected, and each subsequently fined $25,000.5 His history with Johnson dates back to at least 2009, in the September 20 matchup between the two teams. After Johnson had beaten Finnegan’s coverage, Finnegan jumped on Johnson’s back before the ball reached them, resulting in Finnegan being flagged for pass interference.
Exactly
he is the biggest punk in this league…there was already talk about us trading choice and a pick for finnegan which wouldv been the dumbest move we have ever done since the trade for RW!!! he is one of the most overrated players in the league and just plays dirty to make up for it
"This is J-Witt.......................dawwwg"
Wasn't he an all pro recently?
why would they want to get rid of him?
by somebodyquiet on Aug 26, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, but the new coaching staff has soured on him
he had a bad year last year,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
depending on his salary they will probably cu or trade him next year...
there was already talk of that this year to save money. With 20 mil of dead money next year Im sure Gurode will be on the chopping block.
Are you talking starter at C or G?
It looks more and more that we will have a rookie LG, because my money is that Holland is not going to make it. His injuries and the entire way he came in out of shape just makes me think he is not on the final 53. Our linemen choices are: Free, Gurode, Kosier, Smith, Nagy, Arkin, Costa, Young, Holland, Parnell. I like the first seven, am worried about Young, do not like Holland, and am unsure about Parnell. I suspect the team will keep nine linemen, who is the odd man out? You know what my bet is.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Montrae "Buffet" Holland
needs to go. I’d rather keep Parnell and see if he can develop into a player than have Holland on the team. Could they get a conditional 6th or 7th round pick for Holland? That might be worth investigating……
"A successful coach needs a paitient wife, a loyal dog, and a great quarterback. But if you don't have a wife the dog can pull double duty." --Barry Switzer
I have noticed Parnell
extrodinary talent, extrodinary raw,,,,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Better off raw then lazy
Even though there was a reduced practice in getting into the season I think showing up first day completely out of shape is a slap in the face to the organization. You might find that kind of thing with the Raiders but not here.
I agree
as i said above I’m all for blowing up this line and starting fresh, That most definitly includes Holland
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring a lot of dynamite for Holland
That’s a big slab of bacon (nothing but fat) you’re trying to blow up…
Oops…I mean not have on the team anymore….
In our PC world applying “blow up” and a “person” better be about balloons at birthday parties….happy thoughts!
Hey Holland…you are just fine as a smallish country in Europe…but as far as American Football goes….go plug a dike!
This
I would cut him just on principle. If he wasn’t injured prior, there is no reason for him to be that out of shape.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
I agree
We need, among other qualities, Smart and disciplined O-Linemen.
Montrae “Buffet” Holland
is obviously neither – Not smart or disciplined enough to stay in shape and stay away from the sloop bucket.
by meisternance on Aug 27, 2011 4:30 AM CDT up reply actions
The Buffet
was too busy finishing off the leftover from “Epic Meal Time” to stay in shape
"This is J-Witt.......................dawwwg"
I agree Norm
Very raw, but he’s got the physical talent. He also seems motivated to play and learn. I’ll take that over Holland who will never be better than what he is now.
"A successful coach needs a paitient wife, a loyal dog, and a great quarterback. But if you don't have a wife the dog can pull double duty." --Barry Switzer
the cuts are going to be brutal at the end
I hope he’s on the Roster too
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking at Parnell's Body type
I was actually wondering if he might be better at defensive end. I know we have guys there (not including Olshansky who will be in Houston after the cuts), but he has power and speed and is lean for an O-lineman (even at 300 pounds). He reminds me physically of a young Jay Ratliff.
"A successful coach needs a paitient wife, a loyal dog, and a great quarterback. But if you don't have a wife the dog can pull double duty." --Barry Switzer
He was a DE for the Saints
And a TE too.. Apparently they didn’t like him at either position
by Dezstroyer88 on Aug 26, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmmm
I thought he was a rookie, intresting
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
No, this is his 3rd year.
He started with the Saints as a UDFA DE in 2009, they moved him to TE in camp, then moved him to OL in camp. Then they waived him, Miami claimed him, they cut him, then the Saints took him back for their PS. He was again on the Saints PS last year and we swiped him and put him on our 53.
Here's a thought...even though we may be starting 2 rookies on our OLine...we may have the best line in the NFC East.
I’m not saying we have the best line in the NFL…but in comparison, we only have a weakness in our swing tackle. If someone told me at the beginning of the season that we would be this far along in rebuilding our line, I would have laughed out loud.
Put aside...
… all the “best” qualifiers and comparisons and such, just take a sec (whoever reads this), recollect what you figured coming out of last season about the OL, then coming into the draft, then even post-draft.
Now, do you feel better or worse about the OL than at the end of 2010 season?
Cry 'Havoc!'
i feel the best i could possibly feel better than I thought it would be
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
And that's good
There, “good, better, best” covered off between the 2 of us. Like pickin’ up a block on a broken play. Kinda like teamwork. Kinda like what we’re maybe seeing outta this bunch.
Cry 'Havoc!'
and I reported it on the thread right before that,
it still needs to be addressed
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Just FYI, we will sometimes write articles on "breaking news" even tho fanposts/shots have already been done.
It has to do with getting more readers to the site. We don’t mean to steal anyone’s thunder, but we want the stuff where it will generate traffic. I tried to credit all the other info I used.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Can we please NEVER....
and I mean NEVER EVER mention Alex Barron again? I’m kind of disgusted that I just typed his name.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should never have been allowed onto the plane back the Texas after that Skins game.
That would have sent a message…but alas, the Houston Texans Defensive Coordinator did not want to be too maeny-weany….
are you ok with
Proctor, or maybe Pettitte? How about Rodgers or Marteen? No? Then lets try Brewster,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Type with me, and feel better.
Free, Costa, Smith, Arkin, Nagy.
Free, Costa, Smith, Arkin, Nagy.
Free, Costa, Smith, Arkin, Nagy.
It is a new Oline world in Dallas.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Free, Arkin/Nagy, Gurode, Kosier, Smith
Arkin/Nagy’ll get decided these next 2 games. Much as it’d concern me, if JG’s call was to keep the rooks competing for the position into the early regular season, maybe while/if an FA OG hunt was going on, or FA OT, so be it. So long as Tony stays upright.
One guy, one week, slips performance-wise, then in practice doesn’t earn the playing time for next game, so be it. Keep ‘em hungry, keep ’em competing, strengthening each other, every man, every position, rook and vet alike. No exceptions. Zero. None. Not even if your name’s Witten, Ware, Romo or fill-in-the-blank.
Then, and only then, might we begin to contemplate this Free, Costa, Smith, Arkin, Nagy stuff.
Cry 'Havoc!'
Jarvis Jenkins out for the year. Along with Marvin Austin out also makes me feel better about drafting a stud in the second round with a acl injury who is almost ready
by Mac_Eleven on Aug 26, 2011 4:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think he was being sarcastic about Bruce Carter
could be wrong tho
by DarkKnight88 on Aug 26, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes me feel better about this new OL steamrolling the division
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
you seem to know what he's talking about.
?
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 26, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
no but with those two guys out.. both DL for division rivals
It just means their older DL will have more reps and allow our young OL to steamroll them all the way to the division crown
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
dont forget...
Terrell Thomas and Prince who is out til October at the earliest
"This is J-Witt.......................dawwwg"
Great Progress, but we are not done
As recent as 2008, Dallas had FIVE old lineman with no clear replacements. We had hope for Free and he has exceeded our expectations.
The rebuilding has started out great, but it is not done. They have three quality young interior players. It will have been quite the haul if one is a career starter and two of them are quality backups. Even better if two of them turn into career starters.
I have read the reviews and the excellent play by plays and I really wish that I was as sold on Costa at starting center as some here are. I think he is a JAG and that three JAG’s playing side by side will not work on the interior of the line.
To complete the make over the team needs to add depth at OT and find one more young stud to take over in the middle. This roster does not have a third OT that can do what is required to keep Romo safe. Since both Smith and Free can play on both sides of the line, the swing tackle can be a ROT.
by Trey, on Aug 26, 2011 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Veteran free agents on the way.
Everythings gonna be alright.
I differ.
The reports seem to be that the three young’uns in the middle are doing pretty well against some decent DLine types. And Garrett seems dedicated to playing his best people, no matter how many years experience they have. I think the backup OT is the only thing the team may need to find right now.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Two Preseason Games
I like what I see, but I don’t think I am looking at the starters for the next decade, which is what would happen if all the young ones pan out. It’s a good start, but no way this line is done rebuilding.
I think the interior line of Arkin, Costa and Nagy could not stand up verse the better defensive lines such as Detroit or Baltimore when they are scheming to exploit their weaknesses. All three are guys that need more upper body strength and could use an off season with a NFL strength and conditioning coach.
by Trey, on Aug 26, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Denver sucks
their D line is about the worst in the NFL. So looking good against them means squat, SD means something but some people here should remember two names
Reshard Lee
Colston Weatherington
by burmafrd1944 on Aug 27, 2011 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Trey I think u should give it a couple more yrs before convincing yourself of that jag label
I know some fans are of the mindset where they want everything good to happen “now” but sometimes reality doesn’t work like that, it takes time. If were judging arkin, nagy and costa on preseason I would say each has held their own pretty good I mean none of them looked completely outta place which has to account for something. Did smith play left tackle on usc? I thought he always was on the right.
by DarkKnight88 on Aug 26, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Your right about the lable
I don’t mean JAG as derogatory as some take it. By it I meant average NFL starters / qualified back up. Guys like Spears and Koisier. They make up the core of your roster and you can’t win without about 12 of them on your team because NFL Rosters are not composed of star players.
I am suggesting that none of them are going to be pro-bowl worthy anytime soon and you need one stud in the middle of the line to be able to face the DL with all-star firepower on the other side. These guys have the quicks and look to be able to master the mental parts of the game. Arkin or Nagy could turn into a really good player but thinking that the three young players will all become long term ansewers is wishful thinking and is not evident in one training camp and a few preseason games.
Naw I know what u meant jag stands for "just a guy" if I'm not mistaken
I agree with u at this point it’s just wishful thinking which is why I think we should all hold off on the pre-hype good/bad, just gotta take the wait-and-see approach. As a fan I love to daydream tho lol.
by DarkKnight88 on Aug 27, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Two Preseason Games
I like what I see, but I don’t think I am looking at the starters for the next decade, which is what would happen if all the young ones pan out. It’s a good start, but no way this line is done rebuilding.
I think the interior line of Arkin, Costa and Nagy could not stand up verse the better defensive lines such as Detroit or Baltimore when they are scheming to exploit their weaknesses. All three are guys that need more upper body strength and could use an off season with a NFL strength and conditioning coach.
by Trey, on Aug 26, 2011 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I really am disappointed in Holland, BUT...
didn’t Jerry just give him a $500,000 roster bonus? Doesn’t seem like a lot in the big scheme of things. And Jerry hasn’t been into just throwing away his cash recently.
The only concern I have with the suggested youth movement is that I wish our young guys had more strength…and that they could get a real good push against most of the guys they face. Instead, it appears that they seldom do. Just sayin…even though I love Costa, Nagy, and Arkin. Sam Young is a total waste…so what would be wrong with bringing Flozell in as insurance and to tutor Parnell? Heck, even if they wanted another vet guard as insurance, why not bring Bigg back for a while?
And when I suggest that maybe Bigg Davis...
as a vet backup, I’m obviously assuming Holland would be cut regardless.
I'd prefer Holland over Davis
"I will not and have not ever forgiven Crayton. I wish him the worst luck of any player ever." - footballmensa 08/17/11
We need to keep them all, Young will do well next year with proper strength and conditioning in the off season – he didn’t have any.
Parnell will do well next year with more coaching and more strength and conditioning.
Whoever we cut is just going to get scooped up by the Bears, Bengals, Dolphins, or Steelers. Those guys have been feeding off our leftovers like we unknowingly eat stray cats from behind the smelly Vietnamese restaurant.
Hey, hey, hey...
there’s nothing wrong with the taste of…
Wait, did you say “stray”? Ummm, pass…
Cry 'Havoc!'
young has slow feet and nothing changes that
he has looked real bad
by burmafrd1944 on Aug 27, 2011 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Nagy and Karma
I think this is balance. Because of injury in college Bill Nagy didnt get the chance to be a higher draft pick. Now with Costas injury Nagy gets his shot. Karma Baby.
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