Dallas Cowboys Ask Gurode To Take Pay Cut, Decision Expected Today
The Cowboys decided to sit center Andre Gurode against the Vikings on Saturday night, in a move that generated more headlines than the actual preseason game. Stephen Jones called the move a 'business decision'.
Quoting a source, Matt Mosley of FOXSportsSouthwest.com reports that Gurode will be asked to take a pay cut. The five-time Pro Bowler is scheduled to make a $5.5 million base salary and count $7.2 million against the salary cap in 2011, with both numbers set to increase by an extra $1.0 million in 2012.
Garrett told reporters after Saturday's game that this was part of an ongoing effort to manage the salary cap, and that a decision is likely going to be made today.
"There are a lot of issues we've had with some of our veteran players with this salary cap situation that we're in. Some of those moves happened prior to training camp. A lot of discussions to try to make those situations work out happened prior to training camp. And this probably falls into that same category."
"We're going to do some business with him tomorrow. We feel like he's as healthy as he's been. We're going to try to work something out that's a favorable situation for both sides."
Phil Costa had been penciled in as the potential starter on some early depth chart estimates, but that was before Costa sprained a PCL in his right knee. Kevin Kowalski, an undrafted rookie free agent out of Toledo stepped in on Saturday evening at center, and by all accounts handled himself well, and Hudson Houck concurs.
"We'll have to look at the tape," Houck said. "My first impressions were that he played well. Kevin has done a really good job coming in here and having to play this game without much work with the starters. I'm sure there are things he needs to work on, but I thought he did a fine job."
In addition to Costa and Kowalski, Dave Arkin and Bill Nagy are also alternatives for the center spot. With the depth at the position, the Cowboys obviously see an opportunity to ask Gurode to take a pay cut. Jerry Jones said as much after the game.
"He has good competition," Jones said. "There are alternatives for us there, so we can sit down and talk about it, see what we might work out."
Gurode, 32, underwent offseason knee surgery and missed the first two weeks of training camp. Barring a pay cut, the Cowboys could cut Gurode outright, as a trade probably isn't an option. Nick Eatman from the mothership writes that a team source said the Cowboys have talked to other clubs about a possible trade, but Gurode's contract makes that a highly unlikely scenario.
David Moore from the DMN expects the issue to be resolved quickly:
Though Jones declined to put a time frame on resolving Gurode’s status, it’s clear it will be done before all teams are required to cut their rosters to 53 players in six days.
"It will be an immediate thing," Jones said.
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Can an assistant coach get coach of the year
If Garrett somehow pulls that off this year he should just turn around and hand the trophy to Hudson Houck, I cant believe the job he’s done,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 8:21 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The timing on this is strange
Why now? The cap numbers have not changed in weeks
"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden
I think
They just wanted to see him come back and see if he can play. Plus it gives the young guys time to get ready,
by tattooed cowboy on Aug 28, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Believe you can carry cap credits forward into next season
DAL was already $6MM below(don’t know how Scandrick’s new deal impacts that), AG adds another $5.5MM. Seems as if they are saving Romo’s deal to renegotiate next year.
Wine - the way classy people get wasted
Smething teams do regurly is look around the league for teams that have to much talent
At center dallas has Gurode, Kosier, Cost, Nagy, Arkin, and the undrafted rookie Kevin Kowalski,
Someone made dallas an offer for a trade, I bet for Costa, Dallas said “no, what about Gurode”, That team probably siad the contract is out of wack but yea they would love to have him, thus the meeting to reconstruct his contract to a cap friendly deal, for both teams and Gurode probably gets more guaranteed money too,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Nate Newton put it best, Gurode has now become a grabber, he no longer bends his knees.
Also, Goose and others reported that the coaching staff was not please with him showing up out of shape and in need of surgery.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
It doesn't make sense to sit him for just a renegotiation.
They have a salary structure they’re looking to meet, for a trade they have lined up. Everybody is saying restructure, but sitting him definitely suggests trade. We simply don’t have the whole story yet.
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Brilliant Rena
Exactly – they have a game film on him….boom…done…no need to risk a silly injury against the Vikes.
These young kids must be growing up real fast!!!
They probably wanted to make sure they could get by with what they have first.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Do we really know what is going to happen?
Mosley is just going off speculation.
Either way I’d like a trade
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
Me as well
Some team like Tenn, are looking for a center.
by tattooed cowboy on Aug 28, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey me too.
But my guess is Jerry’s ineptitude with the cap is going to bite us again. Now that teams know this is being done for cap reasons why would they give anything up for him? They’ll just wait for Gurode to be cut after he refuses to take less money.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
I think JG has done a great job, esp with the O-line, but
I don’t get this move. We already have two rookies on the line, and Gurode’s replacement would be in his second year. We would have 3 out of 5 new people on the line. It makes sense to get young and better, but Gurode has performed year in and year out and might have a few more years left. Cutting Leonard Davis was cutting fat; I fear that cutting Gurode would be cutting muscle.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Listen to the coaches, Parcells used to make fun of us for our lack of understanding
Coast is actually ahead of Gurode in the line calls, Kosier had to make the calls because Gurode kept screwing them up, When Kosier got hurt two years ago Proctor was the only other guy who knew the line calls and therefore had to be on the field, and the rest is histroy,
Costa is far, far ahead of being a rookie,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Good for Phil
If Phil Costa is making this happen…Excellent.
And if that physical specimen Parnell can improve…wow…we’re building something to be wary of…look out in two years time NFC East.
I'm not pretending to know more than the coaches
I just hope we’re doing it because Costa is performing better than Gurode and not out of excessive zeal to get younger at all costs. Jerry’s constant intervention on this subject just worries me. Hopefully we can get a draft pick for a pro-bowl center.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
"Cutting Leonard Davis was cutting fat... cutting Gurode would be cutting muscle."
That’s a great statement.
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 28, 2011 10:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
it's amazing to me ...
just a short while ago seems like the dallas media decided that all our backup o-lineman sucked. including costa. same thing about free until he played. now we’ve got enough confidence in our backups to consider trading our center? i remember how the dallas media laughed about how overrated gurode was. now he’s worth trading? i don’t know. just amazing how they just turn with the tide….
i’ve never liked gurode’s high snaps. seems like if you’re a center snapping the ball over your QBs head at least a couple times a year ….that’s inexcusable. but i do think he’s a good player. and i worry about getting rid of too many lineman in one year. if we get rid of gurode now, that’s three starters gone. not saying i disagree the decision. just think it’s unrealistic to expect our offense to thrive with three new starters on the o-line. especially immediately. gonna take some time IMO….i can see getting rid of columbo. i went along with it when they got rid of bigg davis. he was old and slow. but now gurode? that’s tough. makes me a lil nervous …..
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
Same here
this is a move that makes me nervous. The up side I guess is that at least the team is getting younger and more athletic. I don’t think I could watch another game where the line gets beaten at the snap by the defense.
Don't believe everything you think.
I was watching last weeks game
We run one of the few plays i think our running game will based around this year and Gurode could not get to the linebacker and make the block, the guy simply beat him to the hole,
By my count Dallas has only run 4 to 5 plays that I think will be staples in the run game, Arkin lost the starting job because he could not pull and get into the hole quick enough and Gurode cant pull or even cut off the linbacker before he gets into the hole,
Gurode was going to be warse than Leonard Davis or Colombo in this scheme, Garrett has to change the scheem or let gurode go, it’s really that simple,
Gurode still has immense value, some team like th Eagles or Tennessee, would kill to have him, The Ravens are desperate, these three teams have tried but failed to address thier center positions, The Ravens believe they are a super bowl contender, and Gurode fits all those schemes,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I think this is the big one.
He can’t pull and slide like JG wants his OL to do. On top of that we really need cap help for next year and this would help quite a bit.
We have been saying for a lot time, trade big high $ vets a year to soon, not a year to late and get something for them like the Pats do. Don’t be afraid to play the young guys. Now that we are some are to nervous to embrace it.
Change can be scary, but sometimes not changing can be even scarier.
Jerry admitted that last night.
He admitted he has stayed with players too long. I actually fell out of my chair.
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I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.
I saw that too,
something along the lines of he payed guys for the glory days not for what they brought to the team in the here and now, I almost got the impression some players dont fit schemes,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Jerry is a fast learner,
It only took him 20 years to realize it.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Aug 28, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I fell out of my chair too
but I think it more from the drinking….
Don't believe everything you think.
lmao
actually it was drinking, celebrating that blocked FG too much and letting my nephew tiring me out with the michael jackson wii game….but i fell out my chair too….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
what is amazing to me is
just a short while agoe we really did suck
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it boils down to cap hell.
How many times have we all said how are we going to carry 25 million in dead cap next year? Well, getting farther under the cap this year allows more credit on next year’s cap. Trading Gurode is even better as far as the cap credit for next year. When you put all the little clues together, including Jerry’s statement a few weeks ago that the cap is lower than he thought it would be, it paints a picture. I think it boils down to we have to look at every high priced contract and put a value on it. Signing Scandrick may have changed the Cowboys cap number just enough to where they had to find a way to counteract that money.
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What is the rule about carring cap money from one to the next ??
I don’t understand the relief teams are getting over the next couple years,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't either. lol
I’m just basing in what I’m hearing everywhere else.
Objection! Hearsay, your honor!
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There has to be a reason Romo was not restructured this season
There’s a grand plan under Jason Garrett’s cap.
And the fact that the Boys are fearlessly working it really impresses me.
me too
I also thought Garrett would make an example of someone, after all if your going to say it’s an open competition then you have to prove it by actually replacing a veteran to get the rest of the team to believe,
they could have used Igor but not even the players were going to believe that one
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I kind of thought after they signed Scandrick that it might be Newman.
I suppose it still could be. Newman has to be expecting that call to Jerry’s office to “regegotiate.”
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Newman is next
I thought uh-oh Mr. Newman as soon as I heard about Andre.
Newman is a heftier bag of loot and he is not healthy.
Tick, tick, tick, tick….
I will bet if Josh Thomas was excelling at Camp Newman would already have been called.
Mario Butler has been playing well.
This is wild watching kids play well and get promoted. I can’t remember any of this since the Jimmy days. Garrett is making it interesting if nothing else.
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Parcells used to say
" I’d rather know what I’m going to get out of a player" Meaning he took little or no chances on younger players,
Wades philosophy was veterens could not lose thier jobs to injury or rookies who outplayed then al long as they played well enough to keep the job, Almost sounds like Parcells,
Jarrett has made his point and will continue to do so,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
To me this speaks to Tanner not only making the team...
but actually getting reps in games. It was a sight for sore eyes to see DeMarco Murray in the game, and looking strong. Meanwhile, Tashard managed to have holding called everytime he touched the rock.
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Murray was nice to see
Considering how little practice he’s had he did look good,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
he looked great
I loved how he put his head down and just ran low
he had been knocked for running too high, looks like some coach name Peete fixed that
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I know I love it
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The writing has been on the wall for Newman
Since the Namdi deal. Clearly we wernt planning on 12 mill to Namdi, 8 mill to Newman, 5 mill to Scandrick.
Everythings gonna be alright.
I was thinking that
Especially if they can prove Ball (balks) or Butler (yeah) can prove to be a 3rd option CB.
by Final Frame on Aug 28, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Butler is a lil bigger
He has some lock down aspects. Few times I thought he was Mike Jenkins. I like ALL our young corners. Even though Thomas got beat he did have 3 tackles and he has shown his worth on sp teams. Ball is looking like the third corner right now but I expect we may look at some free agents. Butler or Thomas to practice squad.
Everythings gonna be alright.
There is no rule
about carrying cap money from one year to the next…. One year’s cap stays for that year. There is no change to your cap based off of how much you save in space the previous year….
However, if they trade or release Gurode this year, he will only count $1.666 M against the cap next year instead of $8.166 M.
My guess is they have feelers from other teams looking to trade for Gurode (or they think they can easily trade him to another team) as they could easily dump him later this season if they were worried about cap space for next year.
This team has taken a different direction
We now rely on JGs influence on analysis and evaluation skills which scale down to people like Hud. The fact is that we have to get down to 53 players and deal with the cap. We have needs not discussed until now and we may be adding to the cap during the year. If we don’t need Gurode due to our depth at OL then we can save the cap $ and give it to someone else. Bring in more depth in a certain weak area… how much are we paying Graham? I don’t think that has been decided yet. How many kickers are we keeping? 3?
I think Gurode is the best Center in either league but like I said before there are more sideline plays so a guy like Costa is a better choice, and maybe a much better snapper. Maybe Arkin plays center? Maybe having Kosier calling the plays works until Costa or Kowalski can step in, but what if Kosier is out? Maybe QB can call them, it seems like McGee has been doing it for the young guys, maybe Romo can help when needed.
Maybe we don’t have a choice here… keeping in mind if we do have inexperience on the line we may run into plays that guys aren’t sure of, so we better have some experience in the huddle.
As I said in the other thread
I’m not sure that their “assessment” on Kowalski isn’t more a negotiating tactic than grading of his play. He looked OK, but it seemed that he was getting a lot of help and that the pocket and running planes weren’t as clean as they were in other games.
That said, Dallas is making a business decision – the relative value of Gurode given his cap impact. Can’t fault them for that, especially because they really seem to be bringing in some decent young talent.
Don't believe everything you think.
Early in the game it seemed a Vikings jailbreak.
The Vikes defense was in the perimeter. But about the 2nd quarter it seemed the o-line settled down a bit and the offense was able to do some things. All the short hits to Dez may have contributed to slowing the Vikings down as well. That kid could catch a fly on a dead run.
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The kid is 22 and undrafted
What do you expect?
But obviously they trusted Romo with him last n ight.
That says something.
get this
Kowalski took no first or second team reps during the week, only minutes befoer the team took the field did he find out he was playing,
BAM! Your in kid, I think he did really well considering.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
If he never takes a snap again
at least he got to play with the likes of Romo and Dez, and Witten, I’d tell that story while they lowered me into my grave!
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
But it didn't look like Romo completely trusted him
It looked as if early in the game Romo was rushing his throws and not planting his feet.
I'm not criticizing Kowalski
just pointing out that pumping him up has business implications. Like I said, I thought he did OK, which is saying a lot for a UDFA who hasn’t taken reps.
Don't believe everything you think.
OCC, the story you linked says his base salary this year is $6.1 million?
Is that a typo?
There could be a couple of options with Gurode, who is scheduled to count $7.2 million on the cap this year, including a $6.1 million base salary.
His base salary is 5.5, but there may be likely-to-be-earned bonuses or other escalators built in that could push it to 6.1, I’m not sure.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 28, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Kk, I was assuming they made the mistake, if there was one made, and not you. ;)
But that is a lot of $ on the cap.
It looks like it.
Gurode’s signing bonus counts $1.66 M vs. the cap which if you subtract from $7.2 M leads to a $5.5 M base salary.
Gurode gone
Liked him, but the old way is not the new way…
Gurode just finds himself between a rock and a hard place.
The harsh reality of the NFL.
Ok Offense is getting a makeover, offense not problem?
I have no doubt Spears has played in the wrong scheme since he was drafted, honestly I think he was drafted to play the role Ratliff has played, Somewhere some how the Dallas cowboys drafted the srong guys for what they are trying to do on defense,
Ratliff, Spears, Hatcher, Ware, are all get to the QB and tackle the runner on the way there kind of guys, Only Ratliff has been used in this way, I am starting to fall in love with Brent, he’s quitley turning into a good nose tackle,
With all the changes on offense, what about defense? Who needs to go?
There is a war going on at every position except QB
Well, even at QB McGee seems to think he can beat out Kitna. WR…war. DB…war. OL…war. LB…war. DE…war. DT….war. RB…war. FB/TE…war. WTF? This is the most fun I’ve seen in training camp in years.
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Yeah
Ain’t it grand!!!!
Everythings gonna be alright.
The toughest decision this team faces is at WR
They have a bunch of young receivers playing well. Holley looked really good out there. Manny made a couple of amazing grabs. No way do I risk Harris to the practice squad. Ogletree has to keep his stuff wired tight because there’s a stampede behind him.
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No kidding
Raddway has size and speed, the kind of measurables you dream about, much like Austin did,
Holly is making his case, Dallas likes big recievers and he seems to be getting better,
Harris, Ogletree, all the lower guys seem to be almost there or super talented, your right that is going to be a hard decision, Joe Decalf, will put his special teams touch on the selection I’m sure.
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Next week, when only the young guys play, I think we're going to see WWIII.
All this young talent battling to make the team, and so much is on the line. These camp battles have morphed into real playing time in preseason, and real opportunities to not only make the team, but actually get to play. Garrett is doing an amazing job with this team.
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Nicely put Wolf
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 28, 2011 10:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
I think their decision criteria may not be the famous “up side” but rather reliability – who can be depended on to make the most of their limited time on the field and if needed, fill in and be consistent.
Don't believe everything you think.
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
OOOOOHHHHH
Radway, if he can continue to prove he can catch we may have something here. Lets let him return kicks and punts.
Everythings gonna be alright.
he just plays the same way, really physical and doesnt like going down
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How many WRs can you keep?
Holley and Manny look like they are ready for some playing time… B2B games that he has had 30-yard catches, big-play guy.
Also, looks like Radway should be on the roster even if its only on special teams.
Also about Holley... I don't agree with Mosley's comment
I think Manny has been the best receiver the past 2 games, didn’t Holley/Ogletree miss the hot read on the slant vs Denver that ended up as an INT? Both Manny/Ogletree have been better than Holley/Harris. All 4 have made some big plays, Ogletree should still be in-line for the #3 but I would be more comfortable with Manny at this point. Ogletree has made a couple big mistakes.
For years...
I’ve looked at moves made by the Patriots, Steelers and Eagles and thought, "wtf,they let HIM (Joey Porter, Bobby Taylor, Trotter, Seymour, Moss, etc…) go?
Those teams are successful because they know that it is a young man’s game, and cut ties with players when they start to show signs of aging and/or being a slight distraction or impediment to the teams broader plans.
Could we be reaching that status of player personnel under JG? I am willing to trust the guys that are watching all the film of all the practices. It’s going to be an exciting year!
Also reaching that 2nd/3rd contract where they really get paid.
This is being driven by cap hell, but it sounds like Jerry has learned another lesson here. He is giving young guys money, and cutting old guys that are getting paid. Novel concept.
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You are probably right
But what if this is really the result of forward thinking, and not fixing yesterday’s mistakes? After all, we just gave our 3rd corner $25M. How bad could the cap situation really be?
Of course, if we cut Newman, that move starts to look purely financial, doesn’t it?
It's gotta be a combination of things.
Garrett knowing he had to get younger on the o-line. He’s probably been cringing for 2 years watching those guys struggle to block younger, quicker defensive lineman. Jerry knowing he had to cut salary. The team finding a bunch of young talented players to come in and compete. It’s the perfect storm.
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The Scandrick signing was smart.
He has been doing pretty well and if we waited till after the season and he was a FA he most likely would have cost quite a bit more. We already need to replace Newman next off season. If we had to replace Scandrick at the same time we would be hurting.
O.C.C.
My man, you’re taking Matt Moseley’s word for it? That’s the guy who the Cowboys can just throw him a scrap and make disinformation hit the interwebs.
Remember this little http://dallas.sbnation.com/dallas-cowboys/2011/4/18/2118614/nfl-draft-2011-cowboys-will-not-pick-tyron-smith-says-matt-mosley about the Cowboys not picking Tyron Smith? Also, when I say nugget I mean stink nugget.
That's funny.
They were saying Amukamara is still in play for the Cowboys. Garrett laughed out loud when the Giants took him at what…17? 18?
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lol he did
I dont think we ever wanted Amukamara, I mean we didnt even invite him for a visit until a day before the draft just to send smoke
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I watched the draft at my boys house with a bunch of my friends
when we were on the clock he was talking sh** to me and I just ignored him
we drafted Tyron and I actually was second guessing it for like a minute because Fairley was on the board, then I just screamed TYRONASAUSRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the Giants took Prince and my friend thats a Giants fan was like WTF, he is not a fan of the Prince
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He has the arms and hands of a toddler.
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LOL thats what my friend said
hes like damn why is he sooo small
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Fairley wouldv been perfect for our dline
he could play any position on it and Rat would help out his work-ethic problems that everyone was talking about
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You said it
not me. Don’t you dare say we shouldnt have drafted someone other than Tyronnausaurus.
Everythings gonna be alright.
LOL
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha ha ha. That was exactly my point. The Cowboys try to put a spin on the story, so who do they call? Matt Mosley gets a call from “a source”. Then they drag Eatman out of bed at 4:00 am and tell him to quote “a source” about no teams being interested.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 28, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely
Jerry has been pounded by the media so bad he has learned to use them to his advantage.
Everythings gonna be alright.
I think Jerry should send Jeff Ireland in Miami some flowers and a note pining for one of their safeties
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by AustonianAggie on Aug 28, 2011 12:26 PM CDT reply actions
I want Chris Clemons straight up for Gurode
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
4.3 speed, dude can cover a lot of field, thats what we need
we need a athletic stud at safety
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
We’ve already got a burner safety who isn’t mentally aware enough to play the position in the league, AOA – at least he’s got excuses as far as not having been in a full fledged actual training camp yet and having to adjust from a D-2 school. Remember Mike Hamlin? Yeah he actually overshadowed Clemons while they were at college together. If he couldn’t cut it on our roster under Wade Doughboy Phillips I can’t imagine trading him straight up for Gurode unless there’s a draft pick in the mix as well.
we drafted the wrong Clemson safety,
Hamlin sucks, this Clemons kid can actually play and I dont care if Mike Hamlin had 5 picks a year
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Chia
thats what i was telling u!!!! i know its just a rumor but face it they love our OL (Berger, McQ, Proctor, Colombo) and with their FS Reshad Jones coming back Clemons is expendable….Berger right now is their starting C so i could definitely see this happening!!!!
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note to self...
i appreciated T.O.‘s on-field accomplishments for us but I will always kinda hate him for popularizing that kayne west-esque pose on our star with his eyes closed and hands to the sky. don’t know if that’s what gurode is doing but that pose just reminds me of that moment. i think george teague should just follow him around and hit him in the back of the head at least once a year for that.
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