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Cowboys Start Youth Movement On Offensive Line

Whatever the Cowboys decide to do with Andre Gurode today or over the next couple of days, there is little doubt that the Cowboys are going after a wholesale remodeling of their offensive line.

There have been been voices cautioning that this retooling of the offensive line signals a 'rebuilding strategy' which will entail a down year or two before the Cowboys re-emerge as a force to be reckoned with. After all, the starting line-up against the Vikings featured three rookies in Tyron Smith, Bill Nagy and Kevin Kowalski. And Kowalski was backing up Phil Costa, who is himself merely a one-year veteran. Are the Cowboys really willing to go with so much youth and inexperience on the offensive line?

Of course, the Cowboys still have Montrae Holland on the roster. Should he ever get healthy, the coaches apparently still believe Holland is starter material at guard. Most fans do not believe this.

Easily overlooked among all the discussion about who's in and who's out, about rebuilding vs. retooling and about youth versus experience is the fact that the Cowboys O-line in its current preseason iteration has played better than in any of the 16 games last year.

Star-divide

And the fact that the Cowboys appear to be shopping Gurode - while his backup is out 2-4 weeks with a PCL - should tell you something about the confidence the coaches have in their young guys. Only question is, can we as fans have confidence in the coaches to make the right decisions?

Last season, the average age of the offensive line was 30.8 years. The starting O-line against the Vikings had an average age of 24.8 years. In one year, the Cowboys may have gone from one of the oldest to one of the youngest O-lines. It is of course quite ironic that as fans, we were all screaming bloody murder last year about how the Cowboys O-line had been allowed to get so old, and now we're worried it's getting too young.

There is little doubt that Garrett is pushing for the roster to get younger, and the O-line may just be the most obvious (and most current) example. But 'roster rejuvenation' is not a quick fix. It is a long term strategy, one that consistently emphasizes youth over experience. It is a strategy that runs counter to the quick fix mentality exhibited in Dallas for so long that, a strategy that found the Cowboys scrambling and trying to plug holes at almost any cost (in dollars or player age) in free agency instead of building for the future.

The Cowboys are going for a youth movement, and not just on the offensive line. There are likely to be growing pains, but it will ultimately put the Cowboys in a position to succeed for a long time.

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time in years I feel good about the line

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel great

I love having a good offensive line again

running the football is my type of football, then I love the playaction over the top

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd OCC

love the youth movement

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

GAME BALLS! COMING LATER!!!!!!!! STAY TUNED!!!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

ive been waiting for a game review

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should have one ready for the morning

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by Brandon Worley on Aug 28, 2011 1:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I got one coming later tonight, rewatching the game right now

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Odd this game....

2 of last years failures came up huge in this game…go team Sensa-Balls

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a good strategy

This team is at least 1 if not 2 seasons away from contending. They are set at the offensive skill positions, but the line needs to get revamped.

The defence on the other hand is still a work in progress. It was not really upgraded, but hopefully that’ll happen next offseason. By the time the defence is improved, the Oline should have found its feet, and the offence is clicking, so this team has a real shot at the title.

In my mind this is a transition season. They have a chance to make the playoffs, but are not yet good enough to contend for a title. One more good offseason and that would change.

by PhilipKDick on Aug 28, 2011 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

this seems to be what's going on

Of course, some lucky breaks with turnovers, improvements from one or two guys, and they can sneak in the playoffs. And then it’s a matter of a couple of complete games in a row.

Won’t hold my breath, but the mantra is “Just get in the tournament!”

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by Realist Larry on Aug 28, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

OCC FOR PRESIDENT

3 articles back to back. WHOS THE MAN. When we are hungry he feeds us, when we are thirsty he gives us drink. Tried to rec twice.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I was just about to say, OCC the machine.

A story per hour. The keyboard is smoking over there in the Rhineland.

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by White Wolf on Aug 28, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha. It’s actually already my fourth today, and it may not be the end as I step up for my fellow frontpagers.

The other guys, most of whom are on the East coast, have bigger worries right now. Like when the electricity will be back to power up their computers. I kid you not.

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 28, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got a huge generator

so I got power, but cant go anywhere most of the roads are washed out

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

We got very lucky by my house

I’m on the Jersey Shore and I heard the boards are wiped out.

by jtgreet02 on Aug 28, 2011 2:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh man hope your alright down there

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Chia

We are good; much better off than others. What got a little nerve racking was the threat of tornados with 2 little ones.

by jtgreet02 on Aug 28, 2011 4:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah dude glad to here your alright

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

lucky you

power might be out for DAYS by me, I got the generator but still

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's not the same

I was out of power for a week during Isabel and that sucked. A lot.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 28, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Over here in New England w/ no power

And I’d still prefer a solid line and a solid secondary over lights and water. =)

He's good, but he's no Danny White!

by Shaymer on Aug 28, 2011 3:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

damn

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

My brother...

Is up in New England too. Stay safe Shaymer!

by jtgreet02 on Aug 28, 2011 4:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

why is this not green yet?

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 28, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just noticed, the photo on top

That is the drill to strengthen your punch, Doug Free is pro bowl good at it, Costa laid a DT out with it last week,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Officially rebuilding.

Jerry is pushing for the roster to get cheaper.

1 yr contracts for both safeties – both will be gone next year, Scandrick will replace Newman, Brooking and James will be gone next year. This year offense, next year defense. 2014, here we come.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 28, 2011 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Safeties 1 yr...Elam

I think he might stick…Im hoping he has a good year and we keep him, none of the other guys we have are even close to being starters. Maybe Sensabaugh has a beast of a year, wouldnt count on it but its possible…there are teams with much worse safeties starting for them.

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sensi has had an

amazing preseason so far but Barry Church takes over 2012 regardless…we draft a safety next year in the 2nd for the first time in years but we have to use our 1st on DL that is our worst position IMO

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 28, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds good to me

A play making free safety may be worthy of a 1st. A DL definitely would not disappoint. Wanna see if Brent can give Rat some substantial time off or time at another spot.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

im not buying the idea of getting rid off Gurode

I mean he’s not an all pro anymore but he’s still solid. Let’s not have the same “Alex barron” mistake. Let’s not forget this are the same coaches who had confidence in him. I’m all up for the youth movement but let’s also take care of Romo shall we ?

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 1:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Cutting Gurode

Could be good…could be a horrible move…we need SOME veterans in there. Id be ok with it if we sign a veteran free agent guard or center. I understand getting young, but it comes at the cost of experience and continuity, were changing the O-line every week it seems.

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, getting younger at 2 spots sounded good

3 out of 5 spots?
And with Kosier sure to miss some time?
Not good.

JJ wants some cap space for next year maybe.

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by Realist Larry on Aug 28, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes we definetly need veteran precense up front

And kosier and Gurode provide just that. I mean we could keep him this year he’s no as terrible as bigg or colombo were.

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

like OCC said.. everyone was complaining too old now people are complaining not old enough

And these are not the same coaches that started barron that was WP, this is JG’s team now. Its all about practice habits. One day at a time. Do it in practice do it in a game. They like what they see why not. Get value out of the vets on the team. Churn the roster.

This is the 21st century NFL the good teams don’t have “rebuild” years. JG is making us into one of those teams. Bill can do it, Reid can do it, McCarthy did it, you can even say Smith did it.. so JG can sure do it too.

I love it. Get value picks or a young player continue the youth movement. Ill take growing pains because you know they will learn and get better instead of slow and hurt

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by thebigham on Aug 28, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

now the OC is the HC and can run it his way

Its hard to do much when your leader(HC) is incompetent. Its like your 1SG being a turd the PSG can only do some much.

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

My Concern

Is short yardage…3rd and 2 type situations. 1 our O-line isn’t the good old days of the big uglies right now and will struggle against bigger D-lines (Giants, Detroit)…2 Who is our bruising short yardage back? Choice…not quite…Murray is a Felix Jones clone..both are not bruisers. You can’t run off tackle every play, we might miss Davis and now Gurode as well?

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea exactly. in paper we might turn to have the youngest Oline

But in gametime we might not have enough beef up front to do the dirty work.

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

idk

Felix is showing he can run physical and Murray was lowering his head last night too

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That five yard TD by Felix was a thing of beauty

Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them

by NYHorn on Aug 28, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree

I actually don’t have a problem with the runningbacks. My main concern is the Oline specifically getting rid off Gurode

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

 Yes, we certainly do not want to upset the chemistry and consistancy we developed over the course of that gem of a season we put together last year, now do we??

 As was pointed out already, and I paraphrase, ; The worst that I have seen out of this O-Line this year is light years ahead of what I saw out of them last year.

 I am not tring to be a hater or anything. I do really like Gurode a lot. He has been a very solid center for us, and has the Pro-Bowles to prove it. Nor am I neccessarely advocating shipping him out. I do believe that he still has some very productive years left. I also would like to thank Bigg, Flo, and Columbo, who all gave us some fine playing time.
 But, IMHO, this line already looks like it will be a playoff caliber unit before November. I know, I know, too soon to tell, but that is what I am seeing, and that is what I believe.

   Willy

by Willy H on Aug 28, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

word

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Felix The Cat

Is my boy….im praying he can be that #1 back that gets 1,000 yds and 8-10 TD’s like he does for me in Madden…but reality is he is a finesse runner…look at him last year between the tackles, not so great… and 2nd and 8 forces you to pass more, we need that back who is running consistantly for 4 yds on 1st down…Felix was better than Barber sure..but he is no Mendenhall or Ray Rice…we need some beef…really dissapointed in Lonye Miller…thought he was the answer at first..SMH

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wanted Jamaal Charles

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thomas Jones

Made Charles even better…wore the D down so he could spring the long runs…Oh and KC’s beast O-line helped too…we have niether

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

my money is on the cat this year

He looks fantastic and will have a great season , he also looks stronger and fast.

Also I don’t wana get rid off choice.

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hope your right...

Choice is expendable IMO, he won’t get many snaps because Murray will show he is all around better…that fumble against the Skins is burned in my mind…I’d take a 5th rnd pick for him

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes that run vs the skins but how bout that 30+ yard

Touchdown vs the colts? Or the good but not great 4 game run in 08?
Choice has proven that he can get the job done.yea that fumble vs the skins mark his career for some fans but to me he’s a reliable back in case Felix or Murray get hurt. Not sold on Tanner or Miller just yet.

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Choice deserves a chance to start

he needs to to stay in the league, he’s not a great special teams player

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes in my mind he dont have to excell in special teams

The vision and moves he showed in the TD run against the colts its enough to trust him with the rock

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If guys who are your

3rd running back or 3rd thight end or 4th and 5th wide recievers dont play special teams, then your starters do, thats a bad thing, a real bad thing

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

53 players

22 starters, a couple of kickers, a long snapper.
Guys can cover on both PR and KO.
I don’t get this meme, it’s a made-up thing around here from the Parcells era.

Would it be good if the 2nd and 3rd RB played special teams? Oh yeah.
Do they have to? No. There’s like 20-25 other guys who can.

To throw away a starter-level player, who’s good value and cheap by the way, because he “can’t play special teams” is silly, and hopefully not what the Dallas brass would do.

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by Realist Larry on Aug 28, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Choice

Won’t be upset if we keep him…good point he is insurance…but if he is taking a majority of our snaps it does not bode well for us..I also woudn’t mind if we traded him…I am not sold on Tanner and definitely not on Miller, He couldn’t hit a hole the size of Texas. Murray and The Cat I have high hopes for.

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

who doesn’t have high hopes for Murry and the cat

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 28, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

my point exactly . for insurance

After the long off-season many players might get injured due to no condition and no training camp.

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

KC's beast OL? lol

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Charles made Charles

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Charles and Thomas

Ran for around 2300 Yds…teams knew they were going to run, the boys on KC’s line did some awesome run blocking…and a team that was 4-12 went 10-6 and made the playoffs…they did something right

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Charles is awesome

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree

Just saying his line could block, ours I don’t think is that good

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats just what they were though, the good OLD days

The past couple of years with out Big Uglies, we couldnt get that 3rd and 1 conversion quite nearly as easily as we should have been able to with our size.
So if it wasn’t working anyway, what are we really losing?

by mahuebel on Aug 28, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

A good mix of the two is what we need…our problem is we were too big and too slow…I think cutting Colombo and adding T. Smith was good, but Gurode is the big boy we need for that extra push

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

word

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

But it's not like those guys were getting it done

Bigg and Colombo were always a beat late firing off the line, and Davis was whiffing on blocks while Colombo’s injury robbed him of his mobility. There was nothing great happening on that side of the line. Gurode was pretty good manning the middle, but his lack of mobility was also an issue. I don’t think these guys will hurt Dallas with their size, just the typical mistakes that young players make.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 28, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

ehhhh...

I still prefer a bigger guy in the center, and a big guard on one side and maybe a smaller more mobile one on the other, and with our 2 mobile tackles…I worry about getting over powered between the tackles. Maybe the smaller line will be ok, just have to play to the units strength which wont be inside runs. More counters, screens, short quick plays.

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prefering is no guarantee

I like the old O-line but they weren’t getting it done. Some prefer us to go out and pay some big bucks for names to fill up the secondary. Preference gets us no where, ability does. Can’t keep living in the past.

by Final Frame on Aug 28, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

First I want to say that this is not something I heard or even read.....

Just me trying to put some things together. I was reading on Profootballtalk.com this morning and there was a story about how Chester Taylor was informed right before the bears game that he would not be playing last night. And that they would not give him a reason. So im probably putting too much thought into this but they did lose there center Olin Kruetz to the saints. And there oline sucks ass right now.

Even though i dont think we need Chester Taylor maybe just maybe this has something to do with Gurode. I’m not sayin, im just sayin.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 28, 2011 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh im great. Got plenty of sleep. I wasnt too hammered anyway. I stopped as soon as the game was over.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 28, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's an interesting thought Paul

But Chester is 32. I just don’t see Garrett making an exception to his “youth movement” for a 32 year old RB.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 28, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

it likely means chester taylor is going to be out to

Forte + MBIII are effective enough for them, I doubt it has anything to do with Gurode. Clemmons from Miami was told to sit as well… thats slightly more likely to be related to us but also still unlikely, as from what I’ve heard there are no deals set up yet regarding a trade with Gurode.

by DonMoosavi on Aug 28, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man... almost expecting that

I hope RW fails utterly in Chicago (and all signs are pointing that he will- yes!) but I was happy that Barber was looking really good this preseason…. the calf has been giving him trouble for the past few years

by DonMoosavi on Aug 28, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish Roy well with Da Bears.....

He seemed like a super nice guy that loved being a Cowboy but he just didnt get it done. He was over valued from the jump by Jerry. Not his fault. He was having an ok year before Romo went down. All that being said im glad he’s not here. Just could not be counted on. Seemed like a black cloud was always hovering over him waiting for something bad to happen.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 28, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think the contract affeted Roys career in dallas

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Trade and Extension...

What we gave and what we paid him…caused everyone to expect way too much and he wasn’t up to it…I have no idea how he had that 1 great year for Detroit, oh well I don’t think he will be good in Chicago either…again that fumble against New Orleans is scarred into my brain

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

heart breaking play no doubt

How bout the fumble against Chicago when Romo was trying to build a comeback ?

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by salas88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or in Green Bay

Later Roy…He will be cut in a year or 2..end of a dissapointing NFL career

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

or thanksgiving

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by thebigham on Aug 28, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roy Williams

When I first heard we traded for him I was so excited…T.O. and Roy Williams! I almost blew a blue and silver load in my pants! Didn’t pan out as I thought it would.

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is how I picture it

Roy will have that skanky beard he wears and just look really old, but really its only like 5 years from now

he will be sitting at a skanky Texas strip club bar telling stories about his days as a great wide receiver, but nobody will believe him

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can see that

“I would of had a game winning TD against the Redskins”
As Alex Barron sits att he other end of the bar

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha

" I was the MAN at UT"

“yeah right you dont even look like Roy Williams”

“Dont let the crossdressing and beard confuse you, I am Roy Williams”

“well if you are, you sucked anyway”

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hi my name is Roy Bundy,

Did I ever tell you about the time I scored 4 Td’s for my high school team? Well, belly up to the bar, buy me a few shots of “Old Briefcase” and I’ll tell you how it went.

 "Al….errrr,Roy……..ummmm, Willy Bundy. Yeah, that’s the ticket!!! BTW, have you met my daughter?

by Willy H on Aug 28, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Super nice guy?

Have you seen his interviews? He’s a passive aggressive version of TO. His sarcasm and his passive whining was SO annoying… “yeah I get only 2 targets a game I just have to make the most of my opportunities”

Then he “subtely” said he wanted to have a great relationship with Cutler, because a failure to have a personal friendship with Romo totally led to his inability…

He blamed Jason Garrett’s system, basically said he couldnt bother to learn it…

The whole thing about him being very out of shape, then saying the whole thing was a joke… so annoying

by DonMoosavi on Aug 28, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

totally agree

he is too puss to actually say it straight forward so he uses subliminal’s

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cant tell you how many times he took subliminal shots at Garrett as head coach, and when he was OC

the whole “A baaaaad man is gonna take my job” comment was a shot at Dez
he picked on Dez intentional with the meaning to degrade him and look like he was still #1

If Witten Austin or Romo were like Dez, carry my pads, I guarantee Dez would be like sure no problem

the smiling when he f’d up was really annoying too

I am soooooo glad he is gone

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somewhere along the line

Roy just lost it mentally…not sure when, but I remember a game early in his career when he was a one man show against a good Eagles defense.

They couldn’t control him…and they had a younger Dawkins, Lito Sheppard, and Sheldon Brown…and he torched them.

He was also tough to bring down.

But now? I’d take Todd Pinkston over him….

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would take Freddie Mitchell over him

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh my man chia

thats just wrong.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 28, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol, I know I was kidding

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't like TO

but at least he was a man and said what was on his mind instead of taking subliminal shots

I dont like either, I prefer athletes keeping their mouths shut and airing it out behind closed doors, but I lost a lot of respect for Roy Williams the way he acted in interviews

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Roy Williams

More before he played for the Cowboys.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk

I never really liked him, he had one great year in Detroit

other than that the dude has been a major bust, shame too

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats because

Your a Canes fan. Hook em horns babee!!!

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll take a Cane over a Horn any day

Orakpo Charles and Finley are the only Longhorns I would want oh and Griffin on the Titans

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's the

Winningest QB in College football history. It aint no Cane.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You

Don’t like National Championship winning QBs?

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

that Texas team was good, really good

not a Vince Young fan at all

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

ohhhhh im shaking in my boots lol

im talking NFL production

Miami QBs suck we all know that

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

The winningest

Was Colt Mc Coy. Take him late in your FF draft, you won’t regret it.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im good on that

I would never start him

Im trying to land Rodgers, Rivers or Romo

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sam Bradford is going to be my backup

you should love that

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bradford

goes in round 7. Colt can be had in round 15 or F/A.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

round 9 or later in every mock I have done

Bradford will be a huge bargain that late

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im talking

backup in late rounds. I like those three to, Brady will be huge

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

im staying away from brady I think

i think Rivers is going to be amazing this year, career year coming from him

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He lead the league

in passing and he gets VJax back. You gotta take a risk Chia. Wheres the fun in predicting the obvious..

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

risk

Im taking Felix and Dez with my 2nd and 3rd picks

I want to land Charles or Rodgers with my first pick

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rodgers

Should be the top pick every year. I won with him last year. I get pick three. Hope he is their.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk my draft slot yet

its randomized one hour before the draft

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

VY

Made the Pro Bowl twice.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, ive seen interviews

you take what you want out of it and i’ll take what i want out of it. When i say nice guy i am referring to him as a person not a football player or how he comes off in an interview. I’m not defending Roy Williams. I am glad as hell he is not here anymore. All I said was that he “seems like a super nice guy”. To me. I have only come in contact with him once. A couple of years ago at the team hotel. He seemed nice to me. Maybe he is a jerk. I have no idea.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 28, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 way trade with miami?!

They could use a vet 3rd down back right?!?

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 28, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah yes, the classic Miami 3-way

Always a good way to end a weekend.

The Ohio State Buckeyes are your Sugar Bowl champions... and for the 7th year in a row Michigan still sucks.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Aug 28, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gurode is done in Dallas?!?!

Something must have happened with interest from another team because this came out of the blue.

One week Jerry Jones is touting Phil Costa and everyone is saying “Ok…that’s nice Jerry, what do you mean he’s going to play a lot? right away?”

And now – Gurode sits for a “business decision” on the night Tony Romo is being exposed for the most plays of a preseason game???

Something has happened…hopefully it is good.

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

AOA is not making the team...huh.

He just is not ready…too bad.

Was rooting for him.

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i cant believe were gonna give up on him after a year

I bet the Steelers sign him and becomes a star in 2 years or at least a starter

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see Jimmy Smith all over again.

Not Jimmy’s level…but a long solid career slipping through our fingers…

AOA make a damn play!

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word Police

I apologize for the d word…but damn it I want AOA to make the team!

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh damn

I typed it again…sorry!

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

someone said the B word last night, if I said it I would have gotten flagged and yelled at

double standards!

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol good word, nice and long

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im really still butt hurt about Danny Amendola, imagine if we had him in the slot right now

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has good hands

And Romo would have hooked up with him with much better success than Mr. Roy Williams….

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

it just hurts

because that kid can play

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remi Ayodle too

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, not really. A few posters here decided it is an unacceptable

word. In reality, it is also not on the very short list of unacceptable words, unless, of course, you direct it at someone here.

You know, Chia, you want respect here and to be on the front page. The front page writers are all moderators, too. Why do you go out of your way to undermine mods instead of backing off and proving that you deserve to be one, too?

by Fernie67 on Aug 28, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

BTW, disclaimer: Only Dave has the power to ask someone to

be a main page writer. He uses whatever standards he chooses. I just don’t get disrespecting OCC, one of the most respected writers around, and then claiming to want to work with him.

by Fernie67 on Aug 28, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

how am I disrespecting him? please explain

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol what?

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

what did I do?

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk how I went out my way to undermine the mods

I was joking when I said double standards

I have no idea how I “disrespected” OCC

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you can't say the word "damn" thats news to me

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chia got in trouble

Now go to your room, your grounded.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh Ward

Don’t you think you were a little hard on the Beaver. LOL

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

;p

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

looks that way

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

Youll be allright. Now go do a numbers article on the logjam that we have in the defensive backfield.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk man

people seem pretty tight actually and really it doesn’t feel good

logjam? eh idk

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have

like 12 Dbs chasing probably nine spots.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesn't mean their very good though

Its a nice little battle for sure, but these guys are still suspect

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many DBs

You think we keep.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

great question

I think 5 but I would really like to keep 6
Newman Jenkins Scandrick Ball Thomas Butler or McCann

gonna be tough to cut McCann

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Safeties too Chia

DB’s not corners

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elam Sensabaugh Church McCray

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

You may

have to pick AOA V Thomas,Butler,McCann.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know thats tough

idk man idk

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

the guy that really has impressed me is Mario Butler

the game never looks to big for him, I like that

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like him too

He is bigger than the other guys and reminds me of our very own Mike Jenkins. Got lockdown potential. He goes up for the ball, doesn’t mind contact.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he is nothing like Jenkins

Jenkins is actually fast

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jenkins

What 4.45, 4.5. Fast? Scandrick, Tnew, Mc Cann. Thats a track team.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't

Think he presses like Jenkins

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Glory

Jenkins ran (if I remember right) a 4.38….I will look it up real quick…

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 28, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

4.38

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 28, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jenkins is fast Butler isnt

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does

Butler run?

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

4.56

at his proday…

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 28, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected

That is fast.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes good at the press no doubt

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thought I was smokin somethin

Yeah, he is physical like Jenkins. Press type. Good size for a DB.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tried posting a link last night

and I did it wrong so I did it again and I was accused of spamming, when I really wasn’t trying to spam, that wasn’t my intention at all

if I could have deleted the first one I would have, I wish they had a comment delete action for your comments, because I simply made a mistake

someone did it on another page just now and nobody said a thing, same thing I did, made a mistake and posted it twice

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I posted the picture, then I try posting the link but I did the link in the wrong spot

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

you need to chill out

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t the one complaining

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 28, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not complaining, Im not mad or anything, it just seems like you are

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said

double standards!
someone did it on another page just now and nobody said a thing,

Apologies if I mistook that for complaining

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 28, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

when I said double standards, I was joking, its hard to tell ones tone on the internet or text messaging

someone did do the same thing I did, made a mistake

I made a mistake

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought we were cool man, what happened?

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah like chill my dude

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didnt mean it in a threatening way, just like chill you know

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

its cool I don't have any grudge against you at least, your my friend

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was a giant white rate, and I was excited for the game, I apologize

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

you really haven't been friendly to me lately and that hurts my feelins

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought we were cool

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

SLAP!!!

I heard that.

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by HudBaby on Aug 28, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh well

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah damn is usable, I haven't swore on here since the Nnamdi day where I got warned, I learned my lesson

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Fernie

Whenever Nnamdi Asomugha is mentioned…I may have to add an s with an explanation point and forget to type the omugha part. LOL

That guy played us…the weasel.

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi is trash

He is trash.
His agent is trash too.

And since Terrance Newman is the reason Nnamdi is not here…he is trash too.

Throw out the trash Jerry J.

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah thats obvious though

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just say butt to be sure

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man

Almost was my user name. Dodged a bullet.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't this be a fanpost?

Kidding! Just trying to lighten the mood!!

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by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

You guys show a lot more patience than I would.

Don’t let a few repeat offenders, like me, get you down. We appreciate what you guys do, for free, on your own time, while dealing with us knuckleheads.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 29, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing unreasonable there

I appreciate the opportunity to converse with like minded thinkers, also knowing that typically, confident grown men can disagree without going off. We all love our Boyz, and like parenting we all have a different take on their well being.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 30, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk

I just wouldnt give up on a D2 player who missed all of last year after one season

dude has talent, the Steelers loved him last draft and would have drafted him early if not for that shoulder injury

Steelers scouted him hard, because he is from their backyard

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eagles liked him too.

I really thought Philadelphia would grab him.

But Dallas beat them too it.

Ha ha

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I guarantee if his shoulder was fine he would have been a late 2nd or 3rd rd pick

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

the best

was when we traded up for Sean Lee

the Giants, Eagles and Patriots, especially the Patriots were butt hurt over that

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sean Lee

Will be the leader of the defense down the line….no doubt!

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah he is a natural leader for sure

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jesse Holley is going to beat out Radway?

That stinks…I like Holley, but I prefer Radway.

More upside.

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah but man Holley looks great

I still rather have Radway, but I bet we can PS Radway now

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

we can

the league is littered with Radway`s right now.

by ziggy19 on Aug 28, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah I really noticed that last night around the league

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Philip Tanner has to stay on the roster though.

He’s had too many nice smooth 7-9 yard bursts…

Go Tanner!

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

thats a different case

Tanner needs to make the team because he wont last 2 minutes on the PS

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tanner

Way too many teams are hurting for RB’s…He would be gone like a cheeseburger in front of Montra Holland

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL Lumpy

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Murray really impressed me last night

because he runs up high but last night he was staying low and lowered his head through the piles of players

Skip Peete is a great coach man

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Murray!

The most impressive highlights I saw of him were his punt returns…he has that electric boom where suddenly he finds a lane and poof…end zone.

There are great players who don’t have that electric boom!

He has it…let’s hope he brings it to the NFL level…if he does…look out…Felix wears them down and Murray will be a terrific two punch for the knockout.

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

he had a punt return? I dont remember it

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe a kick return

Either way – he spun, reversed course, found a lane and went about 85 yards….BOOM!

He is “The Talented Mr. Murray”

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

ohhh highlights from OU you meant, I thought you meant last night

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can not believe Marty bennett went down...

We can not catch a break with putting Witten, Phillips and Bennett on the same field during a regular season game!!!

Marty – Hope you are a fast healer.

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Marty B

Maybe he can practice by sitting in a chair and catching footballs….what is he at 2 or 3 dropped TD passes in the preseason?

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got 2

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

Im in Afghan and cant get the games on stream…all i can do is count game recaps and youtube after, so 2 is probobly right

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the dude sucks, straight up and Ive been saying it for 2 years now

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeremichael Finley

That’s who we passed on….boo!

by Rome One on Aug 28, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats who I wanted

I wanted DeSean Jackson Jamaal Charles Kenny Phillips Brandon Flowers Jermichael Finley
those were the guys on my list that year

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

All the potential, but hasn’t really had much of a chance…that dude who wears #82 keeps catching all those passes…just cant seem to get up the depth chart

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

idk

he drops everything thrown to him though

Fan broke it down, it was 15 percent drops on his targets, thats an awful number
then he did the average per rec per targets, it was like 4 yards or something

I think he is really overrated by the fans, straight bust

he blocks really well, but a tight end is supposed to well block so that doesn’t really impress me

people say oh my god he blocks so good and he works hard, well thats what he is supposed to be doing

John Phillips can block and catch so I dont think losing Bennett is a big deal

if we notice a downgrade in the run game then I was wrong

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chia

You like AOA and don ’t like an actual contributor? Your starting to hurt my feelings man.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Witten...

A progress stopper lol…but one I am happy we have

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Back To Gurode

Hopefully he takes less money…I see his durability taking a hit after the knee surgery…he is 32 and costs way way too much money. So if we trade him, he goes somewhere else, plays a couple weeks and gets hurt and goes on IR we look like geniuses…we get some draft picks and dump a butt load off the cap hit…could be “Winning” like Charlie Sheen. I don’t see hm going somewhere else and making a Pro-Bowl or anything so not much to risk on the downside

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Offensive Line is overrated.

Cowboys line is overrated. Kosier is always hurt, we have no veterans (if we release Gurode), I can’t trust two or three rookies to come in and start write away, they will crack under pressure.
If we happen to get rid of Gurode, it would hurt us more then help us in less we trade him for a cornerback, safety, or defensive end.

by chrisholly3 on Aug 28, 2011 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think a line that with as many questions as this can be called "overrated"

I only see tentative optimism at best…and that’s just because it’s getting younger. I don’t think anyone is complimenting them too much… Although you have to admit, they played much better last night than anyone expected them to.

by jakezze01 on Aug 28, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

And technically, Costa is a vet as well. He’s been through a season of practices learning the position and working on his strength and technique.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 28, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

this might be the furthest reach...

out of any Gurode possibilities i’ve heard so far. and feel free to laugh at me for even suggesting the possibility… but…. what about sending him to the eagles for a cb?

by jakezze01 on Aug 28, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

for the record...

I hope he takes a pay cut and stays

by jakezze01 on Aug 28, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I think Tony might +2.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not laughing...

But they need o-line help, we need Secondary help, Gurode with a 2nd Rnd pick for Asante Samuels…why not? Both teams benefit we might make out on that deal because I think Gurode goes on IR after 2 weeks, that knee might not hold up

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention...

It’d be interesting seeing Gurode looking befuddled trying to handle Rob Ryan’s blitzes and JRat’s speed while wearing an Eagles uniform.;)

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 28, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh wait...

cancel that…

Gurode is the greatest Center since Jim Otto and Mike Webster. He’s strong as an ox and defensive tackles bounce off him like tennis balls. He’d single-handedly make the Eagles O-Line elite.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 28, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice...

“they” might be watching. haha

by jakezze01 on Aug 28, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another

8 million dollar corner. I will take Scandrick.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ill take...

Asante Samuels….he can cover…tackle…ehh another story but better than a CB who can kinda cover and kinda tackle. I like Scandrick, but not on the outside. He is a great Nickle CB in the slot, I don’t see him as a Pro Bowler.

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scandrick

Is faster younger and doesn’t get beat for bombs the way Samuel does.He also makes 3.5 mill less. I think you may change your mind. JG doesn’t like Scandrick in the slot either, at least according to his interview. Would be willing to bet Scandrick has a better year

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by Glory Daze on Aug 28, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope so

Don’t get me wrong I want Scandrick to have a great year…but right now all I can go off is recent success….9 INT’s equates to success to me, so I will take Samuels

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep..

Pro Bowl Center for a Pro Bowl Conerback…niether team can afford them….Us because Gurodes salary and our cap issues (not sure what Samuels cap hit is which might kill that before it even happens)..And Philly with the 30 million dollar cornerback trio…for guys they cant even get on the field at the same time for most of the game

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Samuels makes alot more than Gurode

pretty sure he’s over $9 million on a fresh deal that would cause a lot of escalating bonus for the Eagles. I don’t think they’d trade him and take salary back, only picks.

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by KD Drummond on Aug 28, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea...

Doubt it as well. It was a good thought though. Plus 9 mil to our cap…we don’t have room for it. Unless he agreed to re-structure…but it just makes it worse next year.

by 9to88 on Aug 28, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fact that we could consider cutting Gurode is mind boggling to me...in a good way...

If you would have told me that we might have an abundance of depth at our Oline before the season started, I would have laughed in your face. But then we put in a 3rd string center (that never ever took 1st team reps and was told he was going to start 3 hours beforehand) and he actually did OK against a pretty good Vikings defensive front…I’m even more shocked.

Could it be this easy to fix our line? Spend effort drafting players, coach them up, and give young guys opportunities to play?

by CaliFanInTx on Aug 28, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I have been so impressed with

Hudson Houck’s coaching…..can an assistant coach get coach of the year??? lol

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 28, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's taken a lot of criticism over the last few years

makes you wonder now if he was being given some lunkheads to coach…

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by dunkman on Aug 28, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm embarrased to admit that I was one of those that criticized...I was all for getting rid of Houck...

Could Wade’s kid Wes be one of the reasons for improvement…they made him the new Asst Line Coach, which was a promotion from his QC position? Again, I’m shocked at the progress made in such little time…and these rookies didn’t have OTA’s and have only been playing 3 weeks. Seriously?

by CaliFanInTx on Aug 28, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

Costa isn’t a rookie. He’s had a full season to practice technique and build up his body. He’s also been working extra with JRat and Gurode on his technique and awareness.

Also, don’t discount the extra work Ware and Free have put in with Tyron Smith after practice.

I too thought the game had passed Houck by. And, I will give credit where it’s due. He has been doing an excellent job getting these young guys ready. But, he has had a lot of help from members or our “leaderless defense” as well.;)

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 28, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No he's not a rookie, but

Nagy, Arkin and Smith are, and Costa didn’t get much experience last season or off-season work with the coaching staff, so they are all inexperienced at the pro level. So all together the team has done well to get them up to a decent level of proficiency.

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by dunkman on Aug 28, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think getting another set of eyes is always a good thing

so I’m sure that’s helped Houck

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by dunkman on Aug 28, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check back after the Pats game to evaluate this OL

I have high hopes for them but a good defense will eat this OL up early in the year.

by Quest For Six on Aug 28, 2011 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm more worried about the Jets D...

than the Pats D. In which case, we don’t have long to wait.

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by lonewolfz28 on Aug 28, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with Free,Smith,and Kosier

The rest of those guys minus Gurode either can’t play or aren’t ready.

by Quest For Six on Aug 28, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Disagree

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by Kegbearer on Aug 28, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

they may make some mental errors along the way, but they won’t be beaten out of sheer lack of quickness / athletic ability like the AARP starters of last year.

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by dunkman on Aug 28, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nagy hasnt been all pro

but he’s been pretty freakin solid. I think he’ll be just fine this season. Same with Costa

by mahuebel on Aug 28, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta say

It’s a great time for a Cowboys fan/o-line junkie

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by Kegbearer on Aug 28, 2011 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

finally right

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 28, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh...

It is of course quite ironic that as fans, we were all screaming bloody murder last year about how the Cowboys O-line had been allowed to get so old, and now we’re worried it’s getting too young.

No it isn’t, there’s such a thing as nuance…the pendulum can swing too far the other way. In this case, I think it may have. Of course, I didn’t read all of the comments about the Gurode rumors…but I think replacing three starters on the OL in one year is swinging too far in the Youth Movement direction.

by Omar Little on Aug 28, 2011 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Disagree with "Quest" 100%

Who exactly are “The rest of those guys”? Are you including Nagy in that group? Seriously? How about the Rookie Center, Kowolsky(SP,?) What are you basing such a blanket condemnation on? Is it how many times Romo has been sacked? Tackles for losses against us? Hits on Romo? Penalties? HMMM, because if you try to use any of those metrics, your statement would not seem to be very valid, IMHO.

 Omar, Well said comment about nuance. I was thinking in terms of “degree Of difference”. Same idea. And yes, the pendulum analogy works well also, to me anyway.
But I do have to disagree with you, at this point in time anyway. In many cases, this scenario would scare the Poop out of me, and it did when I first saw it, So far it does not seem to have done anything but improve us. I think we will know how well or badly this move has been for us before midseason.

 It looks to me like a very high risk, high reward move to me. If the O-Line crumbles, then JG’s halo will have a lot of the shine knocked clean off of it. If these guys turn out to be anywhere near as good as some, including myself, think they may be, then Jason Garett turns back into the “The Redball Genious Express” For now it looks to me like Garett and H. Houck may have just turned a Hat Trick!!

 and BTW Kegbearer, I could not agree more. Yes, these are heady days for us!!

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by Willy H on Aug 28, 2011 10:51 PM CDT reply actions  

It's crazy to think

Doug Free could go from being the youngest offensive lineman to the oldest in one season

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:58 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

also, lost in all this… Tyron Smith looks like a monster at RT

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Great observation. The youth movement didn’t really hit me until this.

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