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Dallas Cowboys Release Center Andre Gurode

Clarence Hill from the Star-Telegram reports that the Cowboys and Andre Gurode have decided to part ways.

Just a few months ago, Andre Gurode made the NFL Network's The Top 100: Players of 2011, coming in a comfortable 57th, a surprise for many, including most Cowboys fans. For the series, 413 active NFL players cast their votes to determine who the top 100 playmakers in the NFL are today.

That means that Andre Gurode was voted by his NFL peers ahead of teammates Miles Austin (70), Tony Romo (72) and Jay Ratliff (75) as well as many other top notch NFL players, including Colts center Jeff Saturday (59), the only other center on the list.

Yet at a $5.5 base salary and with a $7.2 salary cap hit, the price of keeping Gurode appears to have been too steep for the Cowboys. Gurode will now count $1.66 million against the salary cap this year and the same amount next year. For those willing to look closely, the warning signs have been there for a while now. CBSsports' Pete Prisco opined back in early June that Gurode had fallen out of favor with the Cowboys staff:

Overrated: C Andre Gurode. He went to the Pro Bowl last season. How? He was really bad. Just ask Dallas' scouts and coaches.

And with a new regime in place that is truly serious about creating competition, the end was nigh for the Cowboys' longest-tenured player, and Jerry Jones has implicitly also given his blessing to what is clearly a Jason Garrett personnel decision:

"Jason Garrett is doing an outstanding job of looking, evaluating, putting the emphasis on ‘I’m evaluating on not what you’ve been rewarded, not what your Pro Bowls are, but how are you playing right now?’ And it’s working. I think that’s what you’re seeing in the offensive line. But it’s all over the team."

Good bye and good luck, Andre Gurode

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Thanks for the hard work.

Hope you sign on with a contender.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 29, 2011 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

Gurode deserves at least some of the accolades he’s received over the years. He’s been a beast for us at times, and yet I’m also not sorry to see the move. It’s exciting to consider how young this line has become, yet terrifying to realize the likely ‘learning curve’ mistakes that may lie in their future. Here’s to Andre finding a home and a nice signing bonus.

I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)

by DalaiLuke on Aug 29, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

+1

I can understand why the Cowboys didn’t want to keep gurode at his current salary, though i understand why Gurode wouldn’t renegotiate his contract. I think both sides are better off.

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

+65 Good luck AG

just dont go to the NFC East please

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 agree as well

Feel a little sad losing someone who has been with the organization since the beginning. But flip side is coaches feel this is the right path to go down and for fans that’s got to leave us excited knowing we’re going to be so much younger and with a better cap situation for the future

by livemontana on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw this...busy with the hurricane clean up..

Can’t say anyone is surprised by this. Costa is going to be a good one and a NJ guy which is more the reason I like the player..lol.

The writing was on the wall when Gurode came back out of shape and Costa showed Garrett he was the guy for the job. On with the youth movement…love it!!

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 29, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holland came back out of shape and injured himself. Gurode had surgery that kept him out of camp.

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by StrosSouth on Aug 29, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

was listening to Brad Sham on Sirus this morning and said Gurode didn't keep himself in shape

whether that was rehab or just pushing the plate away I dont know, but according to Sham Garrett was not happy with him, Holland I knew was a fat slob, always has been..

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 29, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well thats info that hasnt been made public. Interesting then. Guess the vets are

gonna learn one way or another then.

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by StrosSouth on Aug 29, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very surprised that there was no one willing to give up any type of compensation for Gurode

or it could have been that JJ was playing nice and didn’t want to send him somewhere he didn’t want to go.

I am very concerned that he signs on with somebody that needs O Line help… do any of our division foes fit that bill? [/sarcasm]

Happy for the youth movement, wish we controlled where he goes.

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by KD Drummond on Aug 29, 2011 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Gurode is D O N E done

Ignore the pro bowl selection. Gurode is done. He doesn’t bend his knees anymore, he’s a grabber. He had a good career and was a productive player, but he can’t start for anyone in this league. No one was going to give a draft pick for him. I doubt he signs with anyone, unless he signs on the cheap for depth.

by just4fun on Aug 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why pay for what you can have for free?

It was made clear that he would either take a massive pay cut or be released, so why give up a pick and pay his big salary. Now anyone can get him for a lower salary plus keep their draft choices and/or players.

by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 29, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a good point

And that’s why trades are fairly uncommon. But sometimes teams do it to avoid having to compete for a player. Dallas has done it a few times.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gurode probably forced the move

He probably said no to a pay cut, I would. He wasn’t tradable at that salary and now he gets to pick where he goes.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 29, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Andre....

You were a class act during your stay here.

Please go to the AFC now…hate playing against former well liked Cowboy players.

Go Cowboys.....Go White Sox.....

by goat3000 on Aug 29, 2011 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Welcome to the blog

Here, have a newbie rec as a welcome present.

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the hard core

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

just thinking that

but Jay Ratliff would be in for a big day come game time! ….If Gurode is in shape enough

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by Rat-Pack on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe there was no trade

So that he can go play for “The Dream Team”. Good luck Andre, just not against the boys.

He's good, but he's no Danny White!

by Shaymer on Aug 29, 2011 12:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good luck Andre.

You managed to pull your career out of the gutter after a rough start and became one of the better centers in the league. Thanks for your years of service and good luck in the next phase of your career.

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by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Would have been nice to get a low draft pick out of this

I mean he was in the pro-bowl last year, but why make the trade if you know he’s going to be cut? It’s been a fun ride, Gurode, so best of luck to you; just don’t sign with an NFC East team!

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by ScottB1985 on Aug 29, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

That's what I thought

Reputation pick. It was like no one watched the Cowboys after the bad start and therefore didn’t notice all the blown snaps.

As far as the trade, I think his contract was the big deterrent to any trade getting made. I think Andre will land with someone once an injury creates an opening.

by Evil Dallas on Aug 29, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

If Jerry would’ve just kept his mouth shut, maybe we could’ve gotten something for Gurode—even if it was a low draft pick (as you mentioned).

Oh well, I concur with the majority. I do like the preseason performance, the youth movement, and the chemistry of the potential first team O-line.

Plus, I love the whole “competition” thing that Jason Garrett has instilled throughout this team.

Finally, the saving cap space for a center whose best days are behind him is smart, too.

I will give Jerry props for allowing Garrett so much authority to do things the Red Ball way.

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by silverblue5 on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Name one team that would give a draft pick

for a 32 yo center with bad knees, coming off a really bad year

by just4fun on Aug 29, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Niners

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by silverblue5 on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

The miss David Baas, who signed with the G-Men

They signed Jonathan Goodwin, who was with NO last year. Have you seen just how bad Goodwin has looked in the preseason?

You think there’s a reason the Saints didn’t re-sign him.

And btw, who the hell is O’Hare? I think you mean Shaun O’Hara, the center who was recently with the Giants.

We’ll see what Harbaugh decides to do in SF, but right now Gurode or O’Hara would be an upgrade over Goodwin.

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by silverblue5 on Aug 29, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Raiders

What do I win???

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

A big bag of absolutely nothing! lol

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?? no wait!

how about a white track suit?

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

But ...

it is a very fast big bag of absolutely nothing!

by WilliamC on Aug 29, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

The BEARS!!!!

I live just outside of Chicago. They seem to have their fingers on the pulse of the Cowboys organization. “Roy Williams, Marion Barber, and sam Hurd.” PLUS they released Olin Kreutz after he’s played with them for 13 seasons. TRUST me when I say that they’ve been struggling on that offensive line to find a replacement. They moved their starting guard to center, and now the guard position is failing.

Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.

by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 29, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm in the Chicago area too...

And this sounds about right.

The OL has been awful this preseason…they have been moving guys around.

Go Cowboys.....Go White Sox.....

by goat3000 on Aug 29, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Jerry would’ve just kept his mouth shut, maybe we could’ve gotten something for Gurode—even if it was a low draft pick (as you mentioned)

I really think it was his salary that made him untradable, not that there wasn’t a team willing to give up a low round pick. If he said no to reducing his contract, it makes perfect sense that no team would trade for him.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 29, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

This further proves just how much JG is in charge

And just how much he’s focused in not only this season but building to the future. This moves allows the Cowboys to build and mold a mobile and young athletic line that can be competitive for years to come.

Gurode was a great player for the Cowboys for a number of years and a hell of a teammate, but he was being outplayed and pushed by Costa.

Tell me, through the first two games, can anyone honestly say they could tell a difference between Costa and Gurode?

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by Brandon Worley on Aug 29, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I like the move

…..I think its kind of scary relying on the young guys to keep Romo upright but the line has just been too old and clearly getting worse.

I love that JG has the balls to do it.

by beWARE94 on Aug 29, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

No scarier than last years line

At least now JG can open of the playbook a bit.. Although losing Marty b for the immediate future may hurt that

by 1youngwiz on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought we looked better w/o him.

As soon as I heard he wasn’t playing Saturday, I knew we moved on.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Aug 29, 2011 11:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

A point came up yesterday that Romo helps the O line.

He likely carried the line through 2009 by his ability to get the ball out and move around. With young, agile players, he will again be able to make them better by compensating for their errors. It may seem scary, but then is it any scarier than having him behind last year’s line?

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by Tom Ryle on Aug 29, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can tell a difference.

No snaps were randomly done either time or placement.

by Rena on Aug 30, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finally! Now maybe we can have center who can make the line adjustments.

The line has looked really good this pre season. Like I said to my friends when we benched Bledsoe for Romo, and cut T.O. in favor of team chemistry, I don’t care if the line struggles this year or if we can’t win the Super Bowl with this line this season. I like the upside. I’d rather suffer through growing pains than spotty play from an old bunch with little athleticims and agility, which might be good enough to lose in the playoffs with.

Good luck to Gurode but it’s better to be a year too early than a year too late.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Aug 29, 2011 11:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Our line will be better this year. I'm gping out on a limb, but I'm willing to go all in with this youth movement.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Aug 29, 2011 11:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

we have one good thing going for us this year and thats mobility.

Which means more rollouts, screens, etc. to keep the defensive lines offbalance. With our line last year it was basically a sit still pocket. This line has a chance to be special and for that I am excited. We all hated our slow , old line and now its gone.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really like the move of just cutting him .

Yet, I am feeling a sense of relief cause it seems that finally Jerry is taking a back seat with Garrett in charge. I just worry about getting rid of the experience in the line all at once but yet they’ve been pushing the right buttons of late on the OL. I can complain as a fan but its hard to argue with the progress JG is making this year and how much younger we have gotten over night. We all complained we were an old slow line , so I can’t be a hypocrit when they fix that in one year. Good luck to our OL and hope we keep improving for the future.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Nobody was taking on that contract. Credit the Redskins for somehow dealing McNabb to the Vikes contingent upon him re-working his awful deal. Obviously, the Cowboys weren’t able to do the same.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Jimmy,

can you now start bashing the Cowboys O-line for being too young? Look at your data, but I believe we may have the youngest O-line in the league, top three at least.

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 29, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duh, should have read on first before commenting. You are so predictable, Jimmy :-)

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

25 years, 10 months, 5 days

That’s how old the Cowboys O-line will be on opening day. Run that against your spreadsheet. I believe the 49ers may be younger, but that’s likely it.

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 29, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, I beat you to it. I have the same numbers. If you use my data from a few months ago (which is a little messed up from free agency movement) they’re third youngest.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

you went to the same high school as Costa and never knew

thats funny

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, so much for getting a late-round pick for him...

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by Lord Humungus on Aug 29, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe teams arent as high on him as we might have thought ?

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hoped we'd be able to get something in return

a 5th or 6th rounder at least.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

doesnt this tell you what other teams might think of his skill level too?

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he chose not to restructure

There was no way we would get anything for him.Thats why he was cut.If he restructured,his salary to another team would be attractive but he chose not to.Dallas had no other choice.

by Oshawa Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

makes sense

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

With Gurode gone, three of the Cowboys projected starters (assuming Nagy beats out Holland) will have a combined 109 NFL snaps – could get very ugly this season. That said, I really like the ballsy move by the Cowboys. The Cowboys simply don’t have the talent across the board to compete with the Packers, Saints, Eagles, Falcons, etc, so go super young and be good in the long term, while getting him off your books.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 AM CDT reply actions  

If they pan out , this could be a plus this year too

the talent in the skill positions are there now on offense. Even an Eagle fan like yourself can see this.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Austin-Bryant-Witten is a force. Felix hasn’t proven anything yet, but obviously he looks great so far. I think the Cowboys could go run-heavy this season to take some burden off the young kids in pass protection. Then they can do some stuff with play action, etc. Felix is the key.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep Felix has shown stuff this preseason but remaining healthy is the key.

Good thing we got Murray , which could turn out to be a good deal if everything about him comes true.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree. Adding a 3rd tier to the route tree means less passes that are more important. So fewer passes that go deeper than ever

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

talent alone doesn't win games Jimmy....you'll find that out this season

That being said, our OL is much better than it was last season….much, much better.

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by Terry on Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our lines better than your line

nanny nanny boo boo.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although to be perfectly fair..

The game isn’t about whose Oline is better, it’s about whose oline matches up best to the opponents D line.

 We’ll see what happens.

by mahuebel on Aug 29, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Eagles will sign Gurode

He’s over thirty – they love that now.

He is a former Pro Bowler – They also love that.

And they have a kid trying to play center – Kelce is weak.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dont we have kids playing center?

Kinda hard to bash another team doing the same as us, right?

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kelce is going to get Vick clobbered

Do not know if you watched the Browns Game…

Late in the first quarter Eagles long time announcer Merrill Reece who bleeds green said..“I have to say, the protection for Michael Vick has been downright awful. He has no time.”

And Merrill rarely is critical of the Birds.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point is kids or rookies are unknowns.

Are you completely sold on Costa right now? Hard to be sold on someone who hasnt started before.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

just like I was sold on Free

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

This actually makes me feel good. You were spot on about Free way before the average fan knew he existed.

Do you think Arkin could develop into another Doug Free? Wasn’t he the one that you said has a killer punch?

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Music was preaching how good Free would be before he started his first game?

Hmmmm I don’t remember this. I don’t remember seeing much on Free and his backers till he was thrown in the mix due to injury.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope and my appologies cause I din't start on this blog till 2009.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually,

I don’t remember seeing anyone all giggly eyed over Free untill last year. I’m sorry but he was unknown and not thought of much before then .

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh contrair

I stated two years ago Doug should be starting for Flo and he was better than Peters,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am stating what I read on here.

You would be the minority for sure on the bandwagon. Just because Free fared well does that automatically mean all new guys who start do? No. We have young guys playing , in which I am excited, but that doesn’t mean they will ALL pan out as hoped. It just doesn’t happen that way in the NFL.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously...

Go read some of his play-by-plays. Norm does a pretty good job of analyzing the O-line play.

I’m not saying he is going to pick them correctly 100% of the time, but him saying he likes what he sees with Costa makes me feel a little better than just an average fan saying it.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have read his play by play and I enjoy it.

Then again I know he is a Cowboy fan first just like the rest of us. With that comes a little bias and a little more homerism. Yet I do agree , he has good knowledge of what he talks about.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're not doing yourself any favors

It looks kind of dumb to question something that someone else has stated is a fact. Norm was early and emphatic about Free. There’s nothing to debate there. It had nothing to do with bias, he provided play by play breakdowns. Got it?

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 29, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet your dumb response shows you didnt read the all the responses above.

We started this convo based on him saying he was completely sold on Costa. If that means its a fact. Just because a fan gets one right doesn’t mean they know how every player will turn out. Got it?

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You made multiple posts debating something that wasn't debateable
So Music was preaching how good Free would be before he started his first game?
Hmmmm I don’t remember this. I don’t remember seeing much on Free and his backers till he was thrown in the mix due to injury.

Actually,
I don’t remember seeing anyone all giggly eyed over Free untill last year. I’m sorry but he was unknown and not thought of much before then .

Sorry if you took offense to my response, Norm has been here a long time and writes great posts. His opinions were well thought out and based on his observations of performance, not bias. In hindsight I shouldn’t have used the word “dumb” in my post. I didn’t understand why you couldn’t just accept after the first person told you he was all over Free at least a year before anyone else.

by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 29, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

you commented on the second part

and not the one that all this was based on. Music said he felt solid about Costa and regardless of what he posts , there’s nothing to support his case at the moment except training camp and preseason games. If Music has said Free was gonna be a stud before he played a game than cudos to him. I personally didn’t see much talk about him before he came in for Columbo. is that better? All is good and nothing personal. We are all Cowboy fans and debating is healthy btw imo.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 30, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like you said, you missed it

Norm was writing it and we were buying it, so there were plenty of Free fans well before any bandwagon rolled through town.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

well I like optimism but to be completely sold on a player is foolish.

Costa has started how many games? I’m sorry but a fan of over 30 years, has seen so called sure bets turn into busts and vice versa. I would like to see more of him than training camp and practice before anointing him the next great center.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think anyone has annointed anyone

I think best case he’s equivalent to Gurode and there’s no set back on offense. Any player can turn out to be a bust. But what we see isn’t what the coaches go by.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still a bit concerned about depth, but here's hoping your right

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by LRogue on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure about them loving 30 year olds. They have the fewest of them in the division, they only have one guy over 31, and none over 33.

…and what dubious said.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

we're catching up fast in that department with the moves of late
They have the fewest of them in the division, they only have one guy over 31, and none over 33.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have alwasy been a Newman backer

but as of late he isn’t pulling his weight or salary. If we’re gonna do this we might as well do it fully.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am on the fence here.

I think he makes us better but by how much? If we are gonna dump everyone thats over paid then why not him too? Not that I agree with it lol

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scandricks better

Check the stats from last year. Yeah, Newman was injured. He will continue to be injured.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scandrick has shown flashes of being good but he has also shown flashes of being bad.

Not sure on him as a #1 or 2 for the future.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok lets go on

What we do know. Who graded higher last year? Who plays cheaper? Who has had less injuries?

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

well with that you win all day

Does that make Scandrick a 1 or 2 just because he grades better than Newman? lol Can’t we have a better corner?

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I beleive he is 2

I expect improvement from him. We just need someone we can count on, dont you agree?

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree we need someone to count on

Just rather frustrated that Jenkins progressed after his rookie season. I still think he can be a 1 imo if he gets his crap together.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

some guys just can play and they are them

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those are special guys

I was commenting more on our OL , LB’S, RB’s etc.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

But not as old as Watkins

he’s like 60

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

61 this month lol

Semper Fi Do or Die

Thanks a lot Nnamdi for wasting a whole day of productivity at work and stressing me out. Now we get to destroy you twice a year and I'll call us even.

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by Jeremiah_24 on Aug 29, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He sure looked old...

against Phil Taylor…

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Phil Taylor looked great.

I wish we had been able to get him. The D line would have been instantly upgraded as the OL has been.

Wish you were here

by pfloyd1 on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love 30 year old.... strippers

Its my wife that has a problem with 30 year olds.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 31, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree the Saints and Packers are better,

but Eagles, Falcons, etc. NO.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Aug 29, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Psshh. Cowboys don't have talent. You're on crack Iggles fan.

1) When healthy, Romo’s a pro bowl qb.
2) Witten, a pro bowl tight end.
3) Miles Austin, a pro bowl WR.
4) Dez Bryant, very talented second year WR.
5) Two very talented RBs in Felix Jones and DeMarco Murray.
6) Doug Free + Tyron Smith are two very athletic and agile bookend Tackles on the Oline.
7) Jay Ratliff, one of the best 3-4 defensive linemen in the game.
8) DeMarcus Ware, best pass rusher in the NFL.
9) Newman and Jenkins were pro bowl corners in 2009, last year was an abberation.

Whatever though. Enjoy your garbage offensive line; your linebackers who don’t know how to cover running backs and tight ends on passes. Most importantly, enjoy your overhyped, overrated QB who is going to suck like he did towards the end of last season and in the playoff game. Just hope he doesn’t get injured, Vince Young, that’s the best you guys can do at back up? Lol.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Aug 29, 2011 12:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

1 – Agree
2 – Agree
3 – Agree
4 – Agree
5 – Sure, Felix is talented I suppose, but he has proven nothing in this league so far. I’ll acknowledge he looks great so far this preseason, but let’s see him do it when it counts. I thing he can, mind you, but let’s see it first.
6 – Agreed. I’m very big on Free. And while I agree Smith is athletic, he’s still completely untested.
7 – Agree
8 – Agree
9 – Nonsense. They were absolutely dreadful last season. Dread. Ful. I don’t think they were last year, but let’s not write it off as an aberration. You want to give them a mulligan? That’s fine, but you’re only kidding yourself.

So I agree that they have talent. They just don’t have the same talent across the board like the teams I listed.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Felix

1200 total yards last year. I believe his average per suh is over 5 (though before 2010) it was over 7.

Did you say he hasn’t proven anything yet? I beg to differ. He isn’t an unkown quantity, he is a “ready to break out” player that will finally be the starter from day 1

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ummm...

Linebackers and O-Line are pretty important, so you can leave Philly off that list of “talent across the board”

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Their safeties are also suspect...

Allen might turn out to be a bust…

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ours are better this season...seriously

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can’t get much worse than Ball of course, but they’re still bad.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean...

…when you play someone at their natural position, they play better? :O

by danielt on Aug 29, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think we should

Apply that theory to AOA. Give him a chance to FLASH.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are comparing yourself to the Packers...

then yes…

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

LBs certainly aren’t great (or good). And the OL is definitely a big concern, although it’s not without serious talent. So there’s a couple spots. But you’re not really saying that looking up and down at the Cowboys entire roster and comparing it with Philly’s, that Philly doesn’t clearly have more talent?

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

OL- C
WR – C
TE- C
QB – C
RB – E
FB -

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s the only one necessary when you’re saying Austin, Bryant, and whatever two scrubs win the 3rd and 4th WR jobs are better than DeSean-Maclin-Avant-S.Smith, among other nonsense in your comment.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Austin and Maclin can be a wash if you want to say it.

Bryant and DeSean are 2 very different types. Dez will make ridiculous catches and run through defenders. DeSean is very fast and can’t be caught from behind, but will have a concussion is a defender gets within 5 feet of him.

Avant is decent, Smith has been good, but I don’t think they’re any better than Ogletree and Harris

by Hatchetman337 on Aug 29, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

So be it. Ill take tree/harris/radaway over Steve cant stay on the field wish I was a panther Smith and Avant.

Austin + Bryant > DeSean Maclin too. Count it

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um sorry ham,

I’d take steve smith over tree/harris/radaway pretty much any day of the week.

Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.

by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

in 2009 sure

But come on he is d-o-n-e

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

based on what?

Don’t get me wrong.. I hope he’s done but my point is I’d rather take a CHANCE on Steve smith than have any of those guys. Think about it like this. If you had Steve smith, and he was working his way back onto the field, and the eagles offered any one of those guys would you take them?

Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.

by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 29, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

based on his best asset is now gone

Route Running

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you would NOT take that trade then?

And a link to where it’s saying that he won’t be able to run routes any more please

Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.

by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 29, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't want smith

When you blow out your knee route running takes a big hit

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we were the Eagles then fine,

they have sold thier soul, they have a two year window now if and only if Vick doesn’t get mauled behind that line,

Smith is near the end of his career too.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smith is not playing yet, plus no one has any idea how he'll recover

and YES I would take Austin and Bryant over Desean-Maclin-and Avant. Smith being the wild card.

Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.

by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 29, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmy, you need to remind everyone here

the Eagles ARE THE DREAM TEAM. No one can compete with THE DREAM TEAM. Ask the Heat.

Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Keep preachin brotha.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO WAY

NFL GM’s take on primadonna Jackson, a broken Maclin, Steve smith over Austin, all world Dez Bryant and J Witten. I Reapeat, NO NFL gm would take that.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

WR v. WR youre right

id probably take Desean-Maclin-Avant (cant put Smith in, he’s a Cowboy killer, but one word… microfracture surgery) over Miles-Bryant-Scrubs.

But we also have some guy named Jason Witten. pretty good receiver makes this argument a wash.

by soul.rebel138 on Aug 29, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ummmm

I’m not talking about the Cowboys. I’m talking about Philly. You included them in a list of “talent across the board”, which they clearly do not have.

You know I love the Cowboys, but that’s not why I’m saying that Philly will miss the playoffs. They will miss it because their O-Line is going to get Vick hurt, and their secondary will not be able to make the front seven look good. That only works the other way around, IE the front seven can make a weak secondary look good.

7-9 or 8-8

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright… Stakes? 8 is the over-under. I have the over, you have the under. 8 wins is a wash. I’ll bet whatever you want.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jaws gave the Eagles 8 wins

Gruden said Eagles less than ten, Dallas more then 9, Also said Giants good Redskins much better,

for wht that is worth but he usually does a good job of forcasting teams

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll gladly bet Jaws too. If you guys truly believe it, then let’s see it.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smith

has been a freak, he is going to be very, very good for a long long time

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This guy is pretty good considering he's an eagle fan....at least he's objective

I agree with his statement on point 9 100%.

Newmanhas had maybe 1 year of pro bowl caliber……..and he chooses the worst times to get burned and hurt always.

by ManTab on Aug 29, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Cowboys are one of the most talented teams in the NFL at every position

sometimes coaching is the difference, talent allows you to compete, discipline and leadership wins championships. Steelers won 4 SBs with a QB who made a lot of bad decisions, but they had great coaching and dominated on D.

by scraig on Aug 29, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

But honestly

Would you rather have this young o-line that seems to have potential and talent to tap…or would you rather have the Eagles current o-line?

Like you said, I like the move. It takes time for a line to be cohesive and might as well start the future today.

Bryan Broaddus (scout/journalist) called this young line the Rockets…because they are already moving so well together. I am siked!

"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
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Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB

by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Psyched

Excited, bursting with fruit flavor!

"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB

by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eagles starting center just got beat out by a rookie too,

so they have two rookies also, moved a guard to tackle, unless they catch ligtning in a bottle Vick is going to get hit a lot, He and Newman have a lot in common, they are made of glass

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Key

To a running QB..hit him every chance you get….look at Cam Newton in the bowl game last year…he was limping in the 4th Qtr…And same with Vick when we played him, Hit him and slow him down, make him use his arm to beat you…if our defense didn’t suck so much last year getting beat by McCoy on runs and screens and getting torched by DeSean Jackson we would have beaten them

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have we been watching the same games?

Not only is the Dallas o-line looking better, but they have more long term potential.

"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB

by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently, it is good OL play when...

your right guard gets pushed 10 feet behind the line, your center misses his assignments, and your right tackle dances with the DE/LB… Arthur Murray must be the coach of the Eagles OL.

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh come on dude, you're better than this.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that a hat tip to Kowalski?

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam

by LRogue on Aug 29, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, Jimmy...am I missing something?

The Eagles offensive line has looked pretty crappy so far in the preseason…is the plan to save up their energy for the regular season?

by CaliFanInTx on Aug 29, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

How funny......

JimmyK talking smack about OUR oline. Look in the mirror buddy. The eagles oline might be your biggest problem.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Tarheel was probably referring to this little blurb...
The Cowboys simply don’t have the talent across the board to compete with the Packers, Saints, Eagles, Falcons, etc

If you can admit that your O Line is pretty suspect, how can you project the Eagles as one of the “elite” teams?

by CaliFanInTx on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can I not? You can nitpick here or there all you want, but look at the roster. Loaded.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

comon Jimmy

so were we, and still are, our line as you so well let us know was weak and no team could win with a weak line,

Just sayn , you said

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the OL is bad, and if you’ll note, I hate the thought of two rookies starting next to each other on the OL, then yes, it could be a season killer. Where have I said the Eagles OL is some sort of force?

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes refering to the fact that

how can you say Eagles are a top team in the NFC with such a weak OL. Games are won in the trenches. We saw it last year as cowboy fans

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

DL is deep as hell.. and very talented. Not sure what you’re talking about there.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

linebackers are part of the front seven

if your counting on Babbin and Bowne to describe deep then you are dilusional, those two are both under achievers, Babbin is god awful against the run and we all know what happenned when Spears got hurt last year and Bowne started,

DEEP as in full of sh-t

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d be mad at you saying Bowen sucked if… you know… Bowen was an Eagle. Think I’m done debating with you.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, no worries. But with the Eagles DL, Babin will just be a pass rush specialist. He was in the game on 59% of the snaps last season and had 12.5 sacks. Cole on the other side, is awesome – I think we can agree there. Then you have guys like Juqua Parker and Darryl Tapp mixing in. Plus at some point they’ll be getting Brandon Graham back.

Meanwhile on the inside, they have two really good run stuffers in Antonio Dixon and Mike Patterson, with Cullen Jenkins and Anthony Hargrove mixing in on passing downs. They’re very deep. It’ll be difficult for opposing OLs to shut that group down.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly

the d-line coach you got from Tennessee is a really good coach, Yet Tennessee sucks at run defense every single year!

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

20th last year when they were going 3 and out on offense all season, but 10th, 6th, and 5th the previous 3.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me fix that for you.

He was in the game on 59% of the snaps last season and had 12.5 sacks in a contract year after underachieving in his first six years. Did you think he was awesome when you guys released him in 2009?

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think his skill set is perfect for the wide 9, which is what he’ll be playing in. That may sound excusey, but I believe it. Maybe he’s a one-year wonder. Who knows? But I don’t know that his “contract year” has anything to do with it. I’ve watched him in practice – He’s full bore at all times.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tennesse creates one year wonders by taking fliers on questionable guys with great talent. Chris Johnson alone has broken that trend and proved consistent

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

until he sits out this season...

then hell prove the trend

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It does sound excusey but so does us talking about Mike Jenkins haha.

I just figured I would have a little fun with your comment. And I don’t know how he will play. I suppose I could buy that Washburn turned his career around, but I am still pretty skeptical that he has quickly turned into an elite pass rusher.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well played JimmyK.

Norm, i was hoping he wouldn’t notice that but he did.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

the DLine is not bad

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rosters not loaded

If your oline can’t keep the Browns out then how are you going to fair against the Giants (the team in the east that have allowed the fewest points so far). If Vick goes out what do you do with his mega contract?

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eagles have beaten them 6 straight times with an OL that was worse. Over that 6 game span, the Eagles have averaged 32 points against them. I don’t think I feel the need to explain why I should be confident that the Eagles can score on the Giants.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at your oline. POO

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

So were the Miami Heat.

hype will do some funny things to you.

by soul.rebel138 on Aug 29, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you're saying...

The Eagles are going to lose in the Super Bowl? Sounds like a successful season to me, hype or not.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have to agree

all the heat comparisons are a little too much. the heat got the absolute best G in the game in his prime, dwayne already won a championship and Bosh was a good all-pro type center. The eagles got Nnamdi, a defensive specialist who may cause problems if you throw to him, nothing especially dynamic, and other vets who were not nearly on the same level as a Lebron or Bosh (and obviously Wade). And comparing the potential season for the Eagles to equal that of the Heat, is a compliment I’m unwilling to give.

Go Cowboys

by dsmith12 on Aug 29, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually dsmith

both James and Bosh are forwards(small and power respectfully)

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 29, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm 100% sure

lebron plays G, but does it matter for my point? no.

Go Cowboys

by dsmith12 on Aug 29, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that doesn't really matter.

You are very weak in a couple of very important areas. Areas so important that deficiencies in them will completely negate all the other talent on the roster.

Take it from Cowboys fans, we’ve been hearing the “THIS ROSTER IS LOADED ZOMG” stuff for the past 4 years or so and it’s gotten us nowhere.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, now it doesn't matter...

The irony is going to kill him when the Eagles flop this year on the play of their OL.

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said, very well said.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right. You weren't really talking smack

but what i disagree the most with was when you stated how “it could get very ugly.” Im just saying its the exact same for you guys. The Eagles oline looks like poo.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well CRAP....

thats no fun!

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you guys have many cowboy trolls over at bleeding green?

If not, im going to go there and see if I can get you guys as fired up as you have got our guys!

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, no, not that many actually. Bunch of Giants guys come over. It’s all good. I wish we had some more of this over there. It’s fun.

And the thing is, I’m not even really attacking the Cowboys, haha.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Were a little sensitive to eagles fans......

most of us know that you are an eagle fan of a different breed but some eagle guys come over here blasting and they have NO clue what they are talking about. Im sure it goes both ways.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it has a lot to do with the current fortunes of the two franchises. Cowboys fans were over at BGN in droves after the Cowboys consecutive wins over Philly in ’09, and throughout that entire offseason. But ever since around… ohhhhh… Week 1-ish last year… not as much.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I comment there win or lose

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey JimmyK & dubious....

Get a room!!!! LOL

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

hush it….I bleed Cowboy colors :)

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, shucks. I just have to rest on the knowledge

that I’ve yet to hear Cowboys fans taunt an injured player on the field. :)

by Fernie67 on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're easily good enough to compete with Philly.

I’m telling you, your O-line sucks and you have no LBs. Vick will be running for his life and the pass rush won’t be nearly good enough for that secondary to really stand out. I think the dream team is more like a 9-7 team. People really need to stop mentioning them among the elites.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just Curious

as to why couldn’t we have done this earlier to free up more space for Nnamdi

by MrRazzleDazzle on Aug 29, 2011 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

my guess

is that they didn’t know that Phil Costa would take a big step forward. They probably had hopes he would…but they didn’t know till they started practicing and played a couple of games.

by beWARE94 on Aug 29, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

no way of knowing Costa would perform at this level right now. There wasn’t much coming from him last year.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Costa AND Nagy AND Arkin AND Kowalski

I mean seriously, this rookie class is playing way beyond anything that could be considered a reasonable expectation. Even for pre-season.

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam

by LRogue on Aug 29, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

how many of us really knew what JG thought of Costa? We all thought we needed to draft 2 OL guys high

Look what happened, Arkin looks like the most dominant rookie G and Smith looks like a potential Pro Bowler. Nagy and Kowalski? I don’t think you expect UDFAs or 7th rounders to start do you?

These guys beat out higher draft picks like Brewster, etc.

by scraig on Aug 29, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did not know

At that time,with no OTA’s and off season stuff,we did not know what we had with Costa,Arkin or Nagy

by Oshawa Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi sucks

He got beat bad by a Cleveland receiver last week, had his hand on the guy’s shoulder, the guy reached back to get Nnamdi off him, made the catch and got flagged for the offensive PI.

Total “getting the call because you are Nnamdi and have a rep” BS.

Dez will slaughter that skinny little punk.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Agree about Dez...

And my other post was sarcasm.

Nnamdi doesn’t suck, but the Cowboys never had a chance and frankly, I’m much happier that we signed Scandrick this offseason.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi sucks because he is a liar

I can’t make up my mind – Dallas or New York?

What a twit.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

We will be happier in the long run...

work with what we have this year and get one of the best corners in the next draft at a lower price, who will be a Cowboy for life, an RKG, not some mercenary who thought playing with Vick was some “honor.”

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

amen

I like the way you think! Gotta be a texas boy.!

RWilsonII

by rodeocowboy on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

here’s a rec

All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets

by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

he far from sucks

what he should’ve said was he wouldn’t fit for us with us needing help in the front 7. A good front 7 can make a avg CB look better.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one has attacked that skinny twig in five years

He’s had a walk through during games.

Trust me…let him tangle with Dez…it’s like Joe Frazier against George Foreman.

Sure Joe is great…but put him in with big George and he got bounced off the canvas.

Nnamdi is too stick thin for Dez.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about him being attacked of late.

I do know the NFC east has good offense’s , so I am sure he will be attacked. I love the idea of Bryant against any CB. He just has that confidence and skill. Good thing is that miles is on the other side and Witten roaming the middle. We will be hard to cover for sure.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats where we can attack them repeatedly is the middle or the flats

Dont forget Felix and Murray.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. Been saying it all off-season.

The Eagles do not scare me. They will miss the playoffs and JimmyK will be changing his signature to “Closeted Cowboy Fan Since 1992”

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep, he agreed to it.

If the Cowboys fail to make the playoffs then he gets to pick my signature.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miles has already tested Nnamdi

and won… I expect Dez to have similar success.

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, just looked for that game on youtube. Miles is certainly all over the highlight reel. I count 4 catches by him. He didn’t beat Nnamdi on a single one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUZOPVQSKTM

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, do you mean it is possible to face a team with

Nnamid on one side and find a way of making him completely inconsequential to the outcome? Seems like you now have two corners that can be shut out of games.

"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.

by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually heard Mickey Spags bring up a geat point about Nnamdi

he didn’t exactly face a lot of dangerous WR’s in the afc west. That will not be the case in the NFC east. He will be tested. Miles, Dez, Nicks, Manningham, Moss….tough sledding in this division. It will make a man out of ya.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmy missed the Thanksgiving day game

Miles Austin lit little Nanmdi up.

Yet everyone has selective memory when it comes to Nnamdi.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any takers for Joselio yet?

Still trying to dump someone huh?

Good forward thinking when signing Nnamdi.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

There were reports that the Rams were going hard after Joselio. We’ll see. And yeah, the Eagles will really look like a bunch of dopes after signing Nnamdi and trading for DRC when corner was their most glaring need this offseason.

And if they have to trade Joselio Hanson for a draft pick? Dear Lord, the media and fan base is going to destroy them!

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

saw your discontent with Rafeal's post

about Namdi’s decline, has the same YPA as Scandrick, does get lit up by big recievers, ect——-, I like the guy but no doubt he’s at the end of a great career,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi is nothing to really worry about

He is great (or was) but he’s going up against bigger, faster, stronger receivers when he plays Dallas…good luck Nnamdi.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol, who gives a rat’s ass what Nnamdi’s YPA was when he’s getting thrown at 31 times? A little math for you:

31 times targeted * 5.9 yards per target = 183 yards.

Allow me to articulate that in English: Nnamdi Asomugha gave up 183 passing yards last season. You know how many that is per game? 11.4 yards per game. Let’s stop with these ridiculous Nnamdi-Scandrick comparisons based upon a cherry-picked stat that doesn’t even really help the argument at all in the first place.

The end of a great career? Let’s exercise a little common sense, Norm.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

touch a nerve? you kindof sound like Vick responding to Rob Ryan.

I have to give Raf credit he did write an article when Nnamdi was a free agent why signing him would handicap the team who signed him. He did call it in advance, even if we got him it was thought to be a bad idea.

English? looks like math to me? must be dif in philly

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Give Raf credit for what? “Calling something” that hasn’t come to pass? I happen to agree that Dallas signing Nnamdi didn’t make a ton of sense as they had way too many other holes, and a lack of cap space to fill them all. Allocating all their money to one player made no sense. So we agree there. But how does this “handicap” Philly, exactly?

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cutting Gurode

puts us like 12 million under the cap I think

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmy I do see him getting passed on more by this Dallas receiving core though

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Jimmy

You make my point…why is he only targeted 31 times.

A) he played on a bad defense that had other avenues to attack.

B) Great reputation.

So if he hasn’t been challenged in years…and now he’s older…and you have bigger, faster stronger receivers than him…why not go after him?

I’ll await your rebuttal.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’ll await my rebuttal, huh? Is there really anything to rebut here? We agree that teams stayed away from Nnamdi. You think it’s because there were weaker spots to attack. I agree. You also think he has a great reputation throughout the league. I also agree. What now?

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard this argument before

But football is football. “Nobody is throwing at him” is all well and good so how was his team constantly losing?

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andy Reid

If you took away Andy Reid’s trips to McDonalds the signs would have to be changed back to Millions and Millions served from Billions and Billions served.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jimmy in all seriosness

I suspect the run defense is going to bad for the Eagles, is this a true statement or not?

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You picked up

Bowen who we all know here is weak against the run and Babbin whom I know from Tennessee to be wak against the run, both guys are tackle the running back on the way to the QB typw players yet your team drifts away from that philosophy, that would concern me a s student of the game, do you not see the mixxed bag of players?

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have they?

Top half of the league each of the last 4 years. Look it up if you must.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you Jimmy but it's never been a strength,

especially since Johnson is no longer there.

Wish you were here

by pfloyd1 on Aug 29, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

If “not a strength” works for you, then fine. but they most certainly have not “always had problems.”

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad they can't play safety and linebacker

If I was coaching Eagles opponent, I would line up with 2 tightends all day and run at your turnstyle corners, focre linebackers and young (though talented) safeties to cover and step in to protect run. Rarely would you get 3 CB on the field and TE and RB will put up lots of yards against you guys. Remember me…

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I kinda see the Packers and Saints as the Eagles’ stiffest competition in the NFC this year. If they want to go 2 TEs and run on day, by all means, they can go right ahead.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHA

Even if you confine it to those two (and not consider the Cowboys)
J. FInley and Jeremy Graham, Ryan Grant, James Starks, Mark Ingram, Darren Sproles…you aren’t worried at what they can do? Not to mention Rodgers and Brees will glady test your corner and make Asante bite for the pick and hit a big play over top.
Gentlemen’s bet…the Dallas Def will have a better year than the Philly Def (and i know we have problems)

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And they scored 21 points. If Philly faces them in the playoffs this year, and I can sign up for 21 points allowed beforehand, I’m in.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gentlemen’s bet…the Dallas Def will have a better year than the Philly Def

Done. Specifics?

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

After I typed it realized tough to measure, depending. I normally judge Def on combo of points allowed, yards, turnovers, sacks…though I don’t mind if you want to throw in some advanced stats and see where the chips fall in each category.

"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets just keep it simple. I think the bottome line comes down to points, so lets just do that.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think points is a good indicator

If you have such horrible offense the opposing team doesn’t have to score as much, they can go into clock management mode. Get scores like 21-10

Now on the other side if your offense is so good it can make your defense seem worse in the category. Going up 28-0 in a half will lead to a few prevent defences in garbage time that don’t matter in the long run but really throw off a stat like that

No? Maybe I am over thinking it

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

And keep track on the damage TEs and RBs do against the Eagles

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know this will get laughed at because the majority of people here have no clue who Jamar Chaney or Carlos Emmons are, but Jamar Chaney is the best Philly cover LB I’ve seen seen Carlos Emmons.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

JimmyK

I will give you that. They are all Pro-Bowl caliber players.

My pojnt is the Eagles got snookered into buying Nnamdi when they had already solved the CB problem.

They bought him simply to keep him from Dallas.

You can not win a Super Bowl by making moves to hurt other teams…it won’t work.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al davis and Dan Snyder disagree

I am actually surprised at the Eagles, they have been a contender for athe better part of a decade not selling their soal, they have no idea what they have to look forward to.

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andy Reid is fixated on Dallas

He knows the only way to keep his job without a Super Bowl is to beat Dallas twice a year.

That’s how Eagles fans think.

“At least we beat the Cowboys.”

And Reid has been playing that fiddle with his chubby fingers for thirteen years now.

And the fans still dance to the fat man.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

His fat fingers are also used for bacon double cheesburgers, and extra cheese meat lovers pizza.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Aug 29, 2011 3:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I didn't really look at CB as the most glaring need for the Eagles.

I thought they needed a better LB core as the CB’S were a little better than avg.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No problems at all with Asante, but the RCB was a disaster last year.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

and O-line,

the Eagles are starting the same number of rookies as us if nagy starts – 2

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

They have zero LB's

Baby Thor is not what they thought he was.

And they just weakened their guard position to move herremans to RT because Danny watkins needs help.

It’s not exactly the 15-1 SB bound team Eagles fans jumped onto about a month ago.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Eagles O-line is terrible

Mike Vick will revert to his old Atlanta scrambling week one…or he will break a limb.

They are his two choices behind that group.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talked about this many times......

Nnamdi only gave up one big catch while he was guarding Miles. The rest came against Chris Carr. Not trying to bust the bubble. Just sayin.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was terrific when he was in his early twenties.

Then people stopped testing him.

No one threw his way…against the raiders, how hard was it to avoid him…answer…not really.

I watched Colt McCoy toss a deep ball that beat him easy inside the five last week.

he got a bogus Offensive PI call because of his rep, but the receiver clearly had him beat.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw that too

Namdi had a look of a deer in the headlights too, strange

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi grabbed the WR's shoulder pad first

Because he was toast…the guy reacted (he didn’t need to) and got called for the reaction.

I have ZERO FEAR of Nnamdi Asomugha.

I say game plan AT HIM!

Find out if he can back up the reputation!

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's definitely overrated.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And all Cowboys fans said

RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seriously going to commit $200m to one player?

I'm a proud fan of the Minnesota Twins and Dallas Cowboys!
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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi is a one trick pony

He disrupts at the line of scrimmage.

Problem is – he’s too small and skinny for Dezstoyer or Miles.

We get to watch his declining years in person – twice a year.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Dez will not be overpowered like the AFC West receivers he is used to playing against.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dez will injure Nnamdi

Nnamdi will not be able to handle Dez one on one.

He will injure himself in an attempted tackle.

He’s too thin.

His kryptonite is physical play.

DRC is the best CB the Eagles have….going forward.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

DRC is the man...

The one thing I will give the Eagles mad props about this offseason is the Kolb trade. That was an awesome deal for them… and it looks like it could be pretty damn good for Arizona, too.

Kolb to Fitz looks pretty nice.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mark it

Kolb will outperform Vick over the next three years.

And Eagles fans will rue the day they let a class act gunslinger from Texas walk for a demented animal fun killer from Virginia.

Just saying.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree about Kolb over three years being better than Vick, but...

Have you seen Kafka? I don’t think the Eagles fans are too worried about QB right now.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have seen Kafka against third stringers

Like Stephen McGee against third stringers…great!
Kafka is no Kolb…at least not yet.

And Vince Young will be the number two…so how wonderful can Kafka, who has an extra year in the system really be?

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Agree

Dez will own the Eagles 3 Amigo Trio

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry... needed to use the sarcasm font.

I think the Eagles could afford to overpay for it, but I still don’t think they needed him.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now they are trying to dump Joselio hansen

Who is average at best.

They trotted Asante out there for two number twos and the league laughed at them.

They have totally overplayed their CBs and are now stuck.

Like a fantasy drafter taking RB’s in the first four rounds then wondering why their WR’s stink.

Eagles are in for a mighty big surprise this season.
Memo to league – attack the linebackers.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

that statement

This really doesn’t even deserve to be replied to but I will anyway! That would be a dumber trade than Rw!

RWilsonII

by rodeocowboy on Aug 29, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was just messin about

I started out with nothing and still have most of it left

by Benthere on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

This way

Tony Romo is a clown.

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is the way it looks before posting

(without spaces)

@ Tony Romo is a Clown. @

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm....

It’s not working for me.

@ TonyRomoisaClown. @

by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

he got you fernie

Haha OCC is a machine of course he knows all ASCII, HTML etc type shortcuts!

He took the spaces out between the words to be funny see see

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

we dont need Nnamdi

we need a better front 7

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

30 years old…12 million a season…five seasons…

That’s a way to kill our cap real fast.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nnamdi was never coming to Dallas

His agent wouldn’t allow it.

The Cowboys got snookered.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry to see this happen

But at the same time Gurode was one of the men responsible for Tony breaking his Collarbone. The other was Giants Linebacker Michael Boley who had a clean shot up the middle and almost as if the Cowboys had no offensive line.

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Actually the one man responsible was

Chris Gronkowski. I could have blocked Boley just get in his way and at least be an obstacle but Gronk wasn’t even looking in the right direction!

by AmazinsCowboys on Aug 29, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea...

That was all Gronkowski…completely missed on the block gave him a free lane right to Romo from his blind side

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Gurode should have blocked him as well

He was right there and let Boley go right past him.

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Gronk release into a route?

Boley was on a delayed blitz. Gurode was just standing there.

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holland misread a blitz cause Boley came in delayed

Gronk was the last resort blocker, it was his fault starting with Hollandaise Sauce though

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Boley came right up the middle and had a clean shot on Romo.

I think there was a lot of confusion on that play. One could even argue that Tony Romo was responsible for himself getting hurt on the play. He stayed in the pocket and didn’t move around. Granted he had his receiver, but the health of the Cowboys should have blocked him.

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

kinda hard to blame a line when a guy comes in and the FB doesnt see him.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

fail reply to Amazin above

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Andre will end up in Miami

And Haynesworth will stomp his head again.

I started out with nothing and still have most of it left

by Benthere on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Probobly

Who do we cut that they don’t sign…and the Bears too

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is this season.

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

New England

Has a good balance, overall they are a young team sure they signed Haynseworthless and Ochostinko, but overall the rest of that team is pretty young. I don’t see them signing another old O-lineman who is coming off an injury…I could see the Browns or Detroit doing it though

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

But, Gurode should be worth a look. At the very least he could make somebody’s practice squad. As for Haynseworthless and Ochostinko, they could be cut along with Tom Brady. Nobody is safe in this league.

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOW,can hardly believe Garrett has rebuilt the OL in one summer,

i did a post on how “we must fix the OL”,back during the draft.
i thought we had reached crisis point age wise and with rapidly diminishing skills.
Kosier was the one guy i wanted to resign ( 2 years) ,thought Gurode had 1 year but apparently the HC had other ideas.
Kudos the Coach Garrett..

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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 29, 2011 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

It's scary and good at the same time.

We went from slow, old , and not mobile. Now we are young and mobile. It feels great but man I hope this goes well. This offense will only go as far as the kids on the OL lead us.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember that Garrett was adjusting his play calling to help his OL last year,

i’m sure he will do the same kind of things to help the young guy’s adjust to the NFL.
the bonus is that they will grow together and we will have the same group for the next 5 years plus.

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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 29, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just came from Dallascowboys.com

Wow people are not happy. We need to stop grading guys based off pro-bowls. One guy said it best when he talked about how many players we always sent to the pro bowl yet we weren’t winning playoff games. We can’t overpay everyone theres no way we can keep a Pro bowl player at every position, especially past their prime.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Dallascowboys.com

Has some of the stupidest comments on the internet. Their new layout sucks, too.

Just sayin.

by Damnsammit on Aug 29, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Youre right about that

Its a bunch of idiot fans commenting on that site. No football knowledge at all. I dont even bother reading the comments anymore. Thats why I love this site

by dcsince77 on Aug 29, 2011 1:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I got banned from there like 2 years ago.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Somebody above said that the pro bowl is not a good result, when it comes to players being picked for the game. Of course, somebody had to replace somebody else because somebody declared injury. And then there is the factor of the Pro Bowl not involving the Super Bowl teams since the game is scheduled before the Super Bowl itself.

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Gotta earn your keep…Hope Costa is what we think he is, still need to sign a serviceable vet IMO

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure the new line is that Great.

   Jerry just may be in worse Cap hell than we realize. Not sure Kowaliski(sp) is better than Gurode. Might as well cut Brookings , Newman , and anyone else getting overpaid now. Reminds me of the cap hell we were in after all the Super Bowls but without the trophy’s to show for it.

by DCfaninDSM on Aug 29, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Or Costa is the equivalent to Gurode on the field at a fraction of the cost

that would be right along the lines of what everyone wants Dallas to do….

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Costa is expected/hoped to be there Week 1 vs. Jets

But I’ll tell you what, while Kowalski isn’t ready to be a full time starter, he held his own against the Vikings starters.

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Kowalski will struggle a bit

but I think Dallas is thinking they can get through a game or two that way. It’s way easier to give help to a C than a T

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Aug 29, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think about this

what if the trade offer was for Costa?

I’ve heard his injury is minor and probably not a two week injury, 4th pre season game and no ned to risk him, I think Costa is fine

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

How much dead money do we have?

How much dead money do we have this year?

How about for next year?

And how does it compare with other teams?

Thanks in advance.

by florida dodger on Aug 29, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

That is one day away from nailing Jerry Jones...

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by Jessy S on Aug 29, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

CBA

I am surprised we cut Gurode before Olshansky and Holland. I didn’t realize Gurode had declined so much.

I still hope we hold on to Brooking and James. Hopefully, TNew can return to form this year, because we must have 25 million in dead money or so for next year?

by florida dodger on Aug 29, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

So much fail.

All you had to do was read his writing to know he was full of crap and not who he said he was. I’m surprised it took 3 fanposts for somebody to call him on it.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brilliant.

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Costa, Nagy and Smith > Gurode, Davis and Colombo

Our offense this season will be scary good.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 29, 2011 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Could be good but still very untested.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terry cmon man

Preseason and regular season are totally different.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes and no

If they suck in the pre season they are going to suck during the year, it is possible they will miss assignments but over all the line is better, and extremly more versitile. I’m liking this line,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the line but they're not tested in the preseason like the regular season

Teams will be preparing for them each week by the starters throughout the entire game. I just don’t put as much into preseason as some might. I do agree with you that if they suck in the preseason , they will mostly suck.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are "things" that you need to see in the pre season

Dallas has shown them, As i said in a previous thread, the plan was never to start all these young guys, Gurode, Holland, were the starters, the rookies pushed thm out of the starting roles,

underastand this rookies better than vets,,,,,, thats all you need to know right now,, also Arkin was going to beat Holland out,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's all I need to know right now?

And you are?

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

not exactly, i debunked that myth when i went on a tirade about starting Romo over bledsoe,

There are going to be a few bumps in the road, its better than driving torward a cliff at 100 miles an hour like we aere doing. Dallas hit a home run in this draft, it is something of a miracle considering how piss poor wev’e done in the past,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Norm

a diehard fan like the rest of us.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And you're basing this on what?

Scary good, really? Romo is going to get his head bashed in.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

obviously you haven't watched any of the preseason games

Those kids can block and are much better than the old slow and fat Davis, Gurode and Colombo.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Aug 29, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've watched them all, several times

And problem is they are “kids”. Nearly all of them. Kids take time to understand the speed and complexity of “real” NFL defenses, not vanilla pre-season defenses. It’s more than just “blocking”.

Let’s see what happens when Rex Ryan starts bringing people from every conceivable angle and position in game one.

Pray for Romo.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

preach it terry

Bout time, I been saying it all day.

This offense will rock the league. Best TE, Best pass catching RB, Two top 10 WR, Top 6 QB, new young mobile OL. Watch out! 13-3 count it

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You siad that last year

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

doubt it

Our line was the main concern everyone knew we’d live and die by it and we died 1-7

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was there

You literally said the exact same thing but it might’ve been 12-4. Also Kitna had the same line & did a decent job..just saying.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 29, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh right

Well when cowboys cut Kitna Shanananana can have him to compete with sexy rexy and john do you work here beck to run the first ever 3 qb rotation offense

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chech your facks sir

its the 2nd 3 QB rotation eva. You’re clearly forgetting Shane Matthews, Danny Wurrful & Patrick Ramsey of the famed Fun N’ Gun.

You never addressed how Kitna could do well & Romo couldn’t..

Pressure> Romo

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 29, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

Kitna with WP 0-2 Two TDs

JG is the reason.

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kitna

Had a career year, he is a jag. Every QB in Garrets system has been succesful. All three of ours anyway.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

big it doesnt matter if your o-line falters , for what ever the reason, their too young... atm

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Aug 30, 2011 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

is tnew next?

U cut gurode? But tnew was a hot mess himself last year..

So I hope they go to tnew next there no way u dish 8 mill out to him

by lostar2009 on Aug 29, 2011 12:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

TNew should be safe this season...as long as back from injury ok

But I doubt he will be around in 2012.

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

One and done for Newman.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

No so sure

Newman is along the same lines. With the exception of he can still play at an average level but how many players can you get that can actually play the same way on his salary. God our problem is still overpaying but its great that Garret is getting it under control.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm on the Butler Bandwagon

I’d love to see the guy slide in and get a spot. He shows flashes and for an UDFA he has upside.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Butler is doing well

I’m on the other Butler bandwagon – I want to see him take Spencer’s J-O-B.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he meant, Mario...

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Bubble boys include:
Mario Butler
AOA
McCann
Thomas
McCray
We won’t be able to keep them all.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

to me tnew and gurode was in the same boat..

But tnew gets a pass? Wtf?

At least gurode earned a probowl tnew only got one bc he was an alternate..

So to at least be real tnew is not worth the money..

JJ and Jg started this so they will have to finish it..cut the dam fat of this team..

by lostar2009 on Aug 29, 2011 12:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

TNew does not have a backup ready to take his spot....

and you can’t say scandrick. You have to have 3 good corners in todays league.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

scandrick with his deal is gonna start..

Jenkins and the better out of Thomas and ball ..

Tnew will probably only play four games this season.I’m telling u the guy is wash up.

by lostar2009 on Aug 29, 2011 2:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Newman gets a pass because of his contract and are lack of depth

otherwise he wouldve been amoung the RW group of cuts. Newman is as good as gone after the season. He shouldve been cut after last season IMO..

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 29, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Id be happy with or without Newman

Could be time to see if Scandrick is worth that contract he just got. Newman still has something left in the tank though…IF he can stay healthy…he did have 5 picks last year

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would be worried without TNew this year

I have seen enough from Costa, Nagy, and Kowalski to not worry too much about the depth at C…but at CB

If there is no TNew we are in trouble. Scandrick is playing great, and even if he is fine as the #2, I don’t trust anyone else to come in on nickle right now (even bumping Scandrick inside to play the slot). Ball, Butler, Thomas, have shown signs, but not enough for me to not care about keeping TNew this year.

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by Kegbearer on Aug 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

do u not remember how awwful tnew was last year?

U guys talk about being worried about scandrick?

Tnew was getting beat like a drum..

by lostar2009 on Aug 29, 2011 12:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

tnew groin is shot!!!!

Think about, the guy had all offseason for it to heal then hurts it again in the first week of tc?

Now u wanna gamble on this guy? If I’m JJ and Jg I will work on protecting myself from this guy getting hurt again.. restructure his contract.

If he don’t want to cut him, you’ll save money anyway..

by lostar2009 on Aug 29, 2011 1:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Keg

We all get that but what difference does it make if you can’t count on the guy playing on sunday. We can sign a veteran F/A if JG feels he needs to get older.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Karma point for Dallas

Dallas is actually doing Andre a bit a solid by releasing him now instead of waiting until the cut to 53. It gives him additional time to find a good fit as opposed being released on the deadline to 53 which is Sept 4th.

by Evil Dallas on Aug 29, 2011 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

$$$$$

Holland and Igor are still being paid at a decent level. Though I think Igor may not make the final 53 cut (might if Spears is still hurt).

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

If we are more than 10 million under the cap.....

I assume we won’t be using the 3.5 million veteran exception. If we can’t pick up anyone on the waiver wires will we just restructure a few deals (Romo, Witten, Ratliff) to move salary from 2012 and 2013 to 2011 Perhaps extend someone?

by florida dodger on Aug 29, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are all optimistic here but

we all need to realize that with a young line comes inexperience. There will be problems and bad times.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:40 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Dubious - True

But how many problems and bad times were we having with the old guys?

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

we knew what to expect from them ( referring to the old guys)

this is uncharted territory for us lol

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

but the upside – with a year or two together is making me smile.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

I have a hard time seeing how it could be any worse than what we’ve been watching the past 3 seasons.

"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel

by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you cut your Pro Bowl C

who was just voted by his peers as the 57th best player in the NFL?

And give a 5+ million extension to your third CB.

Trying to make sense of all of this.

Is there any doubt that Goose Gosselin got it right when he said this was a rebuilding year for the Cowboys? 7-9.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I beg to differ

We’re talking about his peers. Guys that line up against him week to week.

I trust them more than I trust writers and scouts. Players have no agenda, writers and scouts do.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe they voted him that high to help keep Dallas down?

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's funny.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, thats make perfect sense with Scandrick

didnt realize that its about more than possible breakout year

before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!

by orli on Aug 29, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I'm saying, he's a good player. Having good players helps your team.

Already ready it Cali. I also watched the games and saw a defense, that he was a part of get scorched week after week. And he spent a lot of time reading the name on WR’s backs. Look at the contracts signed by Josh Wilson and Chris Carr, comparables for Scandrick. Dallas, as usual overpaid.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he is but you can't ignore the evidence

I have a hard time finding eight wins.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't think he is.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny

John Grudden told Jaws this team was better than a nine win team, and the Eagles were a nine win team,

Head coach>scout>Gosslin

Gosslin is good at draft day things, not so goos at regular season stuff

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gruden hasn't said a negative thing about a player, team or owner yet

He wants to coach again and doesn’t want to piss anyone off. He carries absolutely zero credibility with me.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

They won 10 games last year

So he believes they are worse than last year? Really?

Again, zero credibility.

Bring in the Clowns, I mean Browns.

by Bayou Cowboy on Aug 29, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes..

OL will get Vick killed even more. Regression to the means to Vick. Kolb is gone. No middle of their Defense teams will run and pass toTE all day on them

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regression to the means to Vick.

Gotta love that argument. “He was too good last year, so this year he won’t be as good.” Funny how it doesn’t work the other way. The Eagles had a historically bad red zone defense last year – the worst since the 1988 Oilers, a team that doesn’t even exist anymore. But you never hear regression to the mean on that. Just Vick.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

So that means the argument isn't valid?

When a player plays above any season they ever have in their 9th year whats more likely?

They continue at that pace
They regress back to their median

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree the argument is valid, but it’s also extremely selective.

by JimmyK on Aug 29, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is just saying

That Vick played over his head. Considering he had a career year I am not sure how you can suggest it isn’t a valid argument.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

regression to the mean is a pretty sound arguement…Vick coming down to earth, just like we think our CB’s take a step out of the gutter. regression to the mean is one of the best tried and true statistics in sports.

Go Cowboys

by dsmith12 on Aug 29, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually his point was

Giants, and Cowboys are just as good and the Redskins are going to be much better, He thinks the Cowboys and giants have better QB’s and will do better because of it,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats true

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mcnabb making the list makes it a joke

List do not meet reality

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a lil shocked...

But, again, we gave him this power. Hafto trust him with it.

I won’t miss the high snaps but he did play well for us. Or at least he didn’t suck. And during this drought of Super Bowls I appreciated the guys who didn’t suck. Cuz there were plenty who did.

It’ll be funny to see where he goes. It seems everybody hates our players until they become available. (See: Steelers and Flozell Adams. Giants and Canty. Redskins and Bowens).

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by Tuna Helper on Aug 29, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

To me...

he and Davis have been really bad. Gurode just can’t move well, and honestly doesn’t handle the blitz very well. Going with inexperienced guys won’t make the line elite, but it helps a bit.

by danielcp0303 on Aug 29, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

That famous play by Romo against the Rams (the scramble for a 1st down after a terrible snap)

Is one of the reasons why Andre Gurode simply wasnt that good. I have no idea how he made it the probowl so many times, but those type of mistakes have been normal for Andre Gurode….and we’re not exactly running pretty good behind the line so…….

So long buddy. Better luck somewhere else.

by ManTab on Aug 29, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmm...

Have we seen any of these young centers work out of the shotgun yet? Because I don’t remember if we have.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever happens this year......

It will be much more exciting and less stressful than last year. We have a change and a actual plan moving forward. Out with the old and in with the new seems to be the new moto. That in itself has made this fan much more optimistic of the Cowboys returning to the glory days.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

wow, sucks we couldn't get anything in return

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

No Kidding

Would have been good to get a 5th rnd pick or ANYTHING actually…but the league knew we would cut him…so they could just wait a few days if anyone wants him….still dont know why we haven’t cut Igor yet!

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

or at least a player in return

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

well when you overpay an old lineman

you usually get what you deserve……nothing.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

And when you draft Chia Crack's main target with the ninth overall pick

You gat a guy you can overpay ten years from now when he is a multiple time Pro-Bowler!

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually, Tyron is going to be really cheap

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Danny Watkins?

There is one the Eagles fans wish they had back.

Twenty seven and getting mauled by Phil Taylor.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love it

make them earn their pay in the future.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Danny Watkins future?

Ladder 51

With John Travolta putting geese in his locker for kicks.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what happens when Jerry broadcasts to the media that Gurode is out for "business reasons".

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

im loving the off season so far

getting rid of the dead weight and under preforming big contracts. its such a change from the last decade. i was not sure about jg when he got the job last year but he has won me over. i really do love the changes and progress of this team.

by Dro916 on Aug 29, 2011 1:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

McLovin It!

Gurode is not the future.

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Welcome to the blog, Dro

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by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 29, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andre was definitely near the end of his career.

But the probowls were no joke. He’s a strong tough guy and that’s hard to get from a center. People say he got their on reputation… well can you guys even name another center?

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Centers I Can Name...

Mangold, Kruetz, Saturday…but not many more than that

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AFC, just got cut from the Bears, and AFC.

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

my point being there are 15 centers in the NFC every year

and 2 make the probowl, and Gurode really was that good.

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

make that 16 centers… 16 starters

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chester Taylor cut too

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

If he is 30

The Eagles may take a look-see.

They like snatching those older vets nowadays.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it Ironic

The Eagles spent millions getting older and the Cowboys cut millions to get younger.

Hmmm.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

money wise, its a good move

only 1.6 against the cap and we save what 5 million?

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

So....

What do we do with the new cap space?

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Transfer as much as we can to next year

Either that or extend some smaller contracts of the guys who are actually showing the ability to play.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know Wittens looking for an extension

With the way he’s still going he looks like a guy that can keep playing at a pro level into his 30’s. Also he doesn’t strike me as a guy who would want to break his team by wanting max $$$$

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

this

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Attack next year's cap

A lot of Dead money next season…no thanks to Lee Ford!

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

For when JimmyK gets down this far -

JimmyK…how can Eagles fans say Tony Romo with one playoff win can’t win in the playoffs, yet Mike Vick, with two playoff wins is a Super Bowl caliber QB?

That makes no sense to me….

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

That doesn't make sense.

He’s not a SB caliber QB. He’s never proven in his career to be one.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dubious

Eagles fans are convinced that Vick can win the Super Bowl…they all wanted to trade Kolb and keep Vick.

They think he’s the real deal.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rome I know :)

We all think our players are all studs too, its called homerism.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

But think about it -

Romo 1-3 and a bum.

Vick 2-3 and the greatest player since sliced bread wore a helmet.

I wish JimmyK could explain Eagles fans logic on that one.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just explained it I thought?

We think Romo is the best at 1-3 and Vick sucks at 2-3……get it? :)

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

But

We don’t say “Vick stinks because he can’t win in the playoffs…”

We do not label guys like that…even demented dog killers.

Eagles fans have Romo labeled. Why?

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see Vick bashing here constantly.

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a dog killer

Or as a guy “Who can’t win in the playoffs.”

Dog killer bashing is deserved. So that is not an issue.

By the way – has he ever said “I’m sorry”

All I hear is him blaming “culture” aka poor black people.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is like most people that feel they're above the rest of us

he feels entitled.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually like Vick

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the Peyton Manning syndrome

Before Peyton won his big one, he had the same labels Romo did. Great in the regular season, can’t do squat in the post season.

Winning the big one fixes everything. As far as Vick goes, he simply hasn’t had enough years in that system to get a rep like that.

by Mavyrk on Aug 29, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because Vick has carried teams to the playoffs and wins all by himself.

No pro bowl WR or RB’s. All he had on offense was a TE and some under sized scat back.

Vick’s playoff losses look a lot better than Romo’s.

Vick doesn’t have a game like the Vikings on his record.

by Sharksbreath on Aug 29, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Atlanta played in a much weaker division

Romo was undrafted.

Vick was a first overall.

And you’re saying Vick has outperformed Romo?

Not really.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vikings game

Away game.

How about at home against a wildcard team last season.

Vick had crucial turnovers and mustered 16 points?

That isn’t worse?

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damned I'm worn out

Jimmy damned near killed me with the Eagles O-line comment earlier, now this, Do all you eagles fans have a really big pair of shoes and round red noses and carpool 25 of you in a volkswagon bug to the game, man you guys are good, just brilliantly funny

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the Eagles blog, we would all be cursing at each other

by now… Thanks for the humor.

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eagle fans cheer

When guys get hurt. We cowboy fans might be homers to a degree and we do have some guys that would like to see others hurt but we don’t have this kind of collective mauling.

Vick is perfect for them.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I won't cheer any injury

Period!

"A mind focused on doubt and fear cannot focus on the journey to victory."

by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will cheer Victory

Victory first.

I hope no one gets hurt. Even scoundrels like Mike Vick.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly.....

cheering injuries makes you no better than the people you dislike.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i will cheer and smile

Vick is scum. I yell for him to be hurt everytime he hits the ground.

Signed
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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's still a tool

But not as big of one as he was with Atlanta. Its good to see how well Atlanta has done in his absense though. Quite a team.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Point

Atlanta got better quickly with Matty Ryan.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Ryan is an overrated player.

The guy is slightly above average. Nothing more, nothing less.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever the case may be

Their system is better. As long as thats the case the team will do better.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well you are welcome to your opinion but...

His highest season QB rating was 91 last year (which puts him slightly above average at 11th in the league among qualifying players – Tony was at 94.9 before injury). He was 26th in YPA in the league which would suggest that a lot of his passes were shorter in the length. And despite that type of offense he played in, his completion percentage ranked him at 12th in the league. I think it should have been higher considering the demands on him by his system and his running game. I will give him that his INT percentage and sack percentage is pretty impressive, but he is not the next great QB like many would leave you to believe. He is probably outside the top ten, which makes him slightly above average for starting QBs.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

he reminds me of Aikman

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe on the field

but you just don’t wake up one day and realize hey maybe torturing hundreds of dogs to death was wrong. Sorry it takes some mentally ill person to do that. Someone who should be highly medicated and under constant doctor care

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or that both are good

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then you would be worse than him.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still

LOL.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

QFT

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel ya

Creasy.

Everythings gonna be alright.

by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i will cheer a vick injury if ...

 its at the jaws of a doberman running on the field and takes em down lol

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Aug 30, 2011 3:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have my reservations

He still has a good reputation amongst his peers, that has to count for something still. I’m glad Garrett is running the team the way he wants too, but there’s still a few concerns that I have.

When coaches have complete control of the team, things typically don’t wind up in a Lombardi. Garrett’s making a lot of big changes and while this team needs change, they also need to make sure they aren’t being too rash. Remember what McD did with the Broncos? Garrett should still answer to someone when it comes to personnel decisions. Total autonomy rarely works well for a head coach.

Second, a player’s entitled to a bad year before you write him off. While I do feel that Gurode is probably closer to being done than being good again, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has another good year in him. I just hope he doesn’t go all Flozell on us.

by Omar Little on Aug 29, 2011 1:35 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions  

400 comments and no one has mentioned...

That Lumpy (aka Montrae) rejoined practice today…

He also scarfed down three donuts during warm ups.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Did Rob Ryan get mad at him for stealing his donuts?

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by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

funniest commercial ever would be

Rob Ryan and Andy reid fighting over a doughnut

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take the pirate (RR)

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funniest commercial ever would be

Tyron Smith blocking Andy Reid from a box of donuts, and Houck standing by applauding Smith’s technique.

The whole time Reid saying “C’mon rookie, think you can stop me?”

Great Promo for Eagles – Cowboys game.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perfect place to post that picture of Ryan

when he was 13 and a giant/ogre for his age…

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think you mean

that picture of Reid in teh punt/pass/kick competition or w/e its called. that was so classic!

Go Cowboys

by dsmith12 on Aug 29, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'll probably play with the backups against Miami

Then get booted off the team for being slower then Mayonaise sliding down he wall.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

because nobody cares that Lumpy is a backup now

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL I hope so

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the real shame...

that we didn’t get to use that nickname during the regular season. It is going to be retired much too early.

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

3 donuts or 3 dozen?

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

is there any real reason why garrett could not have sone this last yr?

Honestly, JG could hv spoken up last yr when he was jus an OC to fix this prob. Or did he let this go on to let wade hang himself. Either way garretts silence from last yr bothers me a bit.

by Professor1 on Aug 29, 2011 1:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Alot of things had to fall into place this year to make this all happen......

draft, players improving, etc. I don’t think he could’ve done all this last year.

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

its different when you arent the head guy in charge

You don’t want to create a rift in management that never works out

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Waiting to have knee surgery until right before training camp

may have played into the decision this year. The money/salary cap is also a huge factor.

by denton on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

decent guard available

Bucs cut G Brandon Carter

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

has Sam Young progressed or what? Not happening?

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

regressed actually

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

regressed?

He wasn’t very good last year. How has he gotten worse?

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah he got worse

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remeber when Herman Munster walked through his front door

That’s how Sm Young eneters the locker room.

No coordination.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is doofy and goofy

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will take It

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

sounds like he should be playing Defensive End (in the 3-4) then

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

He took a step back

I read on this blog he got to big up top during the off season and hurt himself

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

doh. Linemen should focus on their legs first. Actually every athlete should

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was not very good coming out of college and shockingly he hasn't played well in the NFL.

I am terrified that he is our swing tackle. He had slow feet coming out of Notre Dame and that just doesn’t change.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, he is terrible and will probably be cut.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol no
No more cast off guards from the Broncos

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bucs?

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh well maybe. Did he start last year?

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just remember his name and being decent when I heard his name mentioned

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

his SBNation profile is pretty solid

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasnt he gifted G from Texas Tech some years ago?

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by orli on Aug 29, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah thats where I know him from thank you

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he was on the Saints PS and the Bucs snatched him up and he started

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

as junior he had pretty good year if I remember well...

but his last year at college wasnt good and he gone undrafted….
also he was pretty big at Texas Tech…so he was projected for cowboys as dancing elephant but those guys are past in Dallas…

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was one game that Tech played against Nebraska in which he made Suh his b****.

I would definitely take a flyer on this kid, he can play.

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brandon Carter like Brandon Carter from Texas Tech?

Hell yeah, go get him!

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by TXHC on Aug 29, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow Mickey Spagnola actually making sense on Talkin Cowboys

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Giants are natorius for calling players cut within the division,

just ot squeeze as much info out as they can, Boy are they in for a surprise when they figure out Gurode can’t even remember the snap count

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought he said Eagles?

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by dubious on Aug 29, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They have a bum there now

Kelce is not the answer.

And they have grown sour on Jamal Jackson

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

cut Nick Cole too

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

All the news about the Eagles O-line does

Is change my prediction to what week Vick will be on IR…Right now I am thinking week 6

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind him on the eagles

Gurode can’t stop Ratliff’s quickness.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eagles line is a mess

Watkins is not panning out.
Herremans just switched to RT because they had no one to protect Vick’s blind side.
Some fool was inserted for Herremans at LG.
Peters is overpaid now to protect a lefty QB.
And now they are calling Andre Gurode…

Sad really…even for a dream team.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watkins is not panning out?

Oh man I’m glad we didn’t take him then. A 26 year old guard needing development is a drag!

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watkins will be fine

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been watching him, Im not so sure

he has a long way to go to even catch Nagy or Arkin, I’m not even going to put him in the same sentence as our starting center

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

that bad

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is not anchoring well...

he gets his hands on someone and then gets pushed back… He was supposed to be plug and play, but at 27 it turns out he isn’t even physical enough… If it takes another season for him just to be proficient, was the first round pick worth it?

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

even if he is “fine” they’ll get 6 solid year of him tops. Not a great investment on a first round pick.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he held out

One of the last draft picks to sign.

Not good.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phil Taylor destroyed him

Watkins was shoved around against the Browns.

Right after the game the team took Herremans to RT to help the old kid out.

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phil Taylor is a beast dude

theres a reason I ranked him so high on my top 50

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another good thing out this

We’ll have a center that actually snaps the ball when a defender jumps offsides. Gurode never did that, I remember one in the Minnesota playoff game when a vikings player jumped offsides and Gurode just continued like nothing happened….

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope so because that drives me nuts too

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats why PFF is sorta joke

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does that make them a joke? Did you individually grade every play for Gurode last year and arrive to a different conclusion.

I am not saying PFF is the all end all be all, but they at least go out and grade all those plays. Just because I sometimes agree with them doesn’t make them a joke.

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by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

*conclusion?

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

scouts were saying

Gurode lost the ability to block on the second level, I saw it in the pre season this year, Actual football scouts were saying it two years ago,

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right, but isn't it possible to have differing opinions without being a joke?

I mean Bryan Broaddus was a pro scout and I can’t believe he has been pumping up Sam Young.

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by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

chill out Creasy, don't get so defensive over PFF

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

PFF is cool

I like a lot of their stories and they make some great points at times

but their grading system I have a problem with, like Roy Williams grading out higher than Miles Austin, Gurode was pretty bad last year, ask musiccitynorm

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sensabaugh graded out a little high last year too

I watch every Cowboys game like PFF does and what I saw wasnt a top 10 safety

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miles had two drops leading to INTs on balls straight into his hands

and one in the cards game where he fell down. He also had two more on quick throws his way that he wasn’t totally prepare for, but at least one of which he should’ve caught.

If Miles catches/holds onto those balls, I think theres a good chance we’re 8-8 or better last year when you consider the snowball effect losing had. I don’t think its ridiculous for PFF to grade him lower than Roy

by foyesboys on Aug 29, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats what I mean and PFF is grading him really high

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I havent agreed with PFF in a while

they also rated Roy over Miles last year

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is fine by me. They aren't perfect and I don't even really use their stuff.

I am just not sure I would call their ratings a joke. They may be misguided, but I applaud them for at least attempting the monumental task of grading out each and every other player.

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by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he means

the 6th graded C in the NFL.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

there were ony 5 better centers last year...

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according to them

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm nervous, but I sometimes tend to be when change comes to long-time

vets. I would love it if Costa could make the line calls, and if he doesn’t make mistakes on snaps, even better. I guess we won’t really know about this line until we see what kind of shape Romo is in at the end of the season.

by Fernie67 on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish Costa was here right now healthy, thats a little concerning

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read (and now can not find)

Costa’s injury is minor, should not keep him out week one, Probably not going to play 4th pre season game anyway with current roster anyway

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude was awful at snapping

how many times have you seen the ball hit Romo in the face not ready for the snap? or the ball hitting the ground or flying over his head

he didn’t make the calls, what C in the NFL doesn’t make calls?

he couldn’t bend at the knees anymore either, he couldn’t handle getting into the second level and he was awful in pass protection

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

for me it's the knees

I don’t think he could leverage with his knees at this point.

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah his knees were shot

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

too bad we can't over haul our DEs and Safeties with this same effectiveness

I’m reminded about how on Defense you need 11 quality players, but on offense you can cover for a handful of weaknesses

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by AustonianAggie on Aug 29, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Keep an eye on the

Waiver wire. Alot will change by Wednesday. We can score some young free agents if they make sense.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll get there

Coming this far was such a drastic change, give it more time and we’ll see better things. Coaches are definitely doing better.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully next draft

We draft a C/G and then go defense for the rest of our picks.

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I want to see defense defense defense

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

DEs, CBs, FSs

all of that good stuff.

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rob Ryan

better have some say in this next draft….i want to see us draft big nasty defensive linemen that eat giants for breakfast

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

what about hint to mike brown that we need Landry Jones injured this year?

we can develop him with enough time as our next franchise QB….do it in Patriots way, they know Brady will play next three years but they are looking for replacement now…

so we should look on possibility to find way how to make Landry Cowboy

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by orli on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont need to draft another center....

we have Costa and Kowalski….and Nagy probably can play there too….pretty sure

Guard? ist possible as Kosier is still here, but Arkin, Nagy around too ….

I believe we are going with something like DL, Secondary next year, and dont forget Garrett dont believe in drafting for need…

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by orli on Aug 29, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

First Pick

I’d say either DE or OLB. Save the secondary until the 2nd round.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

no more blocks for Butler PLS

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by orli on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

we got Butler

I can see us going DE, NT, S, CB, then DL for the rest

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have Butler yes

But he’s a compliment to Ware. I’d like to see Ware’s successor. Either that or a DE that can just cave in a pocket like Holland does to the box that contains the donuts after practice.

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

We do

his name is Alex Albright

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Point

Honestly he slipped my mind.

K then lets go big on our Dline then!

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

CB in the first round!!!!

that’s what I think we should do. NFL is passing league and you can never have enough corners.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

then Tnew is leaving for sure

too much money at CB already

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

we should make a bet

who gets hurt first? Tnew or Vick

once Tnew comes back from his current injury of course lol

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

with the new rookie scale

it won’t be that much to sign a rookie CB. CBs are important they’re expected to make lots of money.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

we do have Church Bells and we could bring back either Sensi/Elam but i dont think both

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Church

I would be great if he could become our SS. Then we resign either Sensi or Elam and get a FS in the 2nd-3rd round to develop and we’ll be good to go.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 29, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Church=Gamer

All over the field. They say he can’t cover but he looks pretty good to me.

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by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meant to add that I've been wondering if the fact that he waited until just

before pre-season to get the surgery. Unless he injured himself this summer, the powers that be can’t have been too happy about that.

by Fernie67 on Aug 29, 2011 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

LUMPY!

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA i still like

“Hollandaise Sauce”

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats just fantastic

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol thats even better

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

spread the word

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

he’d been eating donuts every day leading up to practice…

by Final Frame on Aug 29, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really Sad

Because Holland is from FSU…my school

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

GO NOLES!!!

Im a senior at FSU!!

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word...

Its gonna be a good year for FSU…Minus the Oklahoma game

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That will make/break our year

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, at least you can say we had Deion

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by Archie Barberio on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats true...and

Fred Bilitnikof, Sebastian Janikowski, Derrick Brooks, Warrick Dunn, Antonio Cromartie, Darnell Dockett, Anquan Boldin, to name a few we have had some good players, and then there is Holland and Alex Barron

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two words for both of you FSU guys

wide right…….I kid i kid. We’re all friends here!

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 29, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

we missed out on Graham Gano

he wouldv saved our kicking problems…say what u want about him but hes clutch

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

... gano clutch?

Ill take DB

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

he made 18 in a row his last year at FSU

and the reason why we have the other Graham now

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was 24/35 last year...

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

rookie

he will do very good this year…they won 3 OT’s cause of him

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

DB was a rookie FG last year 24/32

but can also boom it out of the endzone every KO and make tackles..

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

and miss extra points

whats ur point?

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah your right

/s

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyways we dont have Gano so whats the debate about???

Shayne Graham is our Golden Graham as of right now

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by J-Witt Dawg on Aug 29, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way his Kick Offs are horrible

DB makes the team without a doubt

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Atleast

We aren’t MIAMi
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….THE U….will never be a good team again!

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoot Hoot

Going to be a year to remember either way

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

which side is kosier on?!?!

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by thebigham on Aug 29, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure

But whoever did their homework on Bill Nagy – You deserve a Raise!

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

There were some here on draft day who did not like

the Nagy pick.

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by LDVFootball on Aug 29, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

7th round

crap shoot

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by Glory Daze on Aug 29, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mesage to rest of team

WakeUp!!!!! Time to go to work, Or Else!

by Musiccitynorm on Aug 29, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bill Nagy

Went from seventh round end of draft to STARTING FOR THE DALLAS COWBOYS!!!!!!

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Average age - 25+!!!!

And that is with Kyle Kosier…

Can you imagine if Arkin can take that role next season…..Wow!

by Rome One on Aug 29, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks AG.

I guess this was likely to happen. AG has done well for us in the past, I’d guess he was just to expensive for his diminishing skills. No need for people to say the Cowboys have messed up by not getting a deal done for a pick next year. Why would anyone want to pick up his current contract? They can get him for nothing when he’s cut. I can also understand AG not wishing to redo his contract, he has pride. I’m not worried about this. this is pro football.

by Workingtonian on Aug 29, 2011 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I respect the move

Garrett is sending a message loud and clear: THE CUPCAKE ERA IS OVER!!! No more of this ceremonial starter crap. Meaning you get to start just because of higher salary or draft status. Let the best players play. Im glad Garrett has the stones to roll with the youngsters instead of going along with everything Jerry wants like fat boy used to do. As a fellow Houstonian I hate to see Andre go, but it was better to do it a year sooner than wait a year later.

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Garrett

is basically saying I want players. Take the number off, I dont care who you are or what you make. If you cant do what I want you to do then I will find someone that can. Love his attitude thus far.

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 29, 2011 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting on DC.com right now..

There questioning Garrett for making Andre get on the plane and attend the game, sit on the sideline wearing a Cowboys tee shirt. Considering he has been the starting center for 7 years maybe this wasn’t the best idea Garrett made. Probably should’ve let him sit home instead of being embarrassed on the sideline and players asking him what is going on…hmm….

an unnamed player said he gives Andre credit because he wouldve found a commerical flight home and never attended the game. A coach said not a good move by the HC.

by Boyzfan94 on Aug 29, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

At that point, they were hoping to renegoiate his contract and keep him. Why is that

unfair?

He was cool about it. According to one account I read, he was giving some tips to the younger players.

by Fernie67 on Aug 29, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah he was interacting with Kowalski if I remember the reports.

Gurode handled himself with class throughout this whole thing.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's an interesting take but I don't really have a problem with it.

Gurode at that point was on our payroll for millions of dollars. Being made to go to Minnesota for a few days is not that bad. I actually applaud our coaches not pampering these guys too much.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 29, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

The way you treat your employees say's alot about you.

Obviously this came from the locker room.

The players are thinking that if a guy can be considered one of the best 57 players in the league and has surgery. This is how the team will treat him.

What does that mean for me.

With the leadership issues in this locker room that’s not a good thing.

by Sharksbreath on Aug 29, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

"with the leadership issues"

I think it has become clear that Garrett is the leader. Theres no question at this point. Nobody’s job is safe. If you underperform, you will be cut.

by foyesboys on Aug 29, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh please. You whine about Jerry and his results all the time

but the second he changes up how he runs the organization, you find some reason to nitpick it. They didn’t treat him badly (a trip to Minnesota while being paid millions of dollars with the expectation of being in Minnesota is what we are whining about?), and who is to say he didn’t want to be there anyways? And as foyesboys points out below, I don’t think leadership is quite the issue it has been in the past.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Aug 30, 2011 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That

Could be a message to other players…doesn’t matter who you are, this is 2011, not 2009. Play well, or your gone, we have people to replace you. Except you Tony, Jay, and Demarcus you guys are good.

by 9to88 on Aug 29, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable the amount of comments here... tough decision to let go of Gurode

I think a few of us were willing to let him go. just not sure we had enough options to make it work this year. The time is the present just like in the Jimmy Williams era, we’re no longer waiting for time to run out, imagine if we had cut Troy Aikman in pre-season? Look at the backlash Jerry got from firing Landry.

This is BIG – the one thing I didn’t understand was who is the guy if Costa isn’t ready cause I thought Kowalski was mostly with McGee & company. I heard that someone thought that Arkin played some center but what I heard is that both Nagy and Kosier are other options.

It seems to me though that Arkin/Nagy will be battling for LG/RG time and Kosier might play C if needed. Anyway it seems like this team has a lot of depth now and that comes from a totally different way of evaluating players… like Jimmy did.

This utilizes Jason’s strengths obviously and it seems he has the coaching staff on board, Jerry too. No one gets a free pass, MB said it well. You have to earn that star on your helmet, you have to earn the “America’s Team” label.

Gurode is still one of the best centers in either league, and he’s coming off a pretty decent season. He’ll get picked up quick, we have depth at every position and it won’t be long before you see some of these superstars move on, Romo, Witten, Ware, they can all be replaced, if there was ever a year for them to produce… it’s under Garrett/Jones, because they will not be patient as they have been since the Jimmy Williams era.

by scraig on Aug 29, 2011 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

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