What Will The Dallas Cowboys Do With Their Remaining Cap Space
Two weeks ago, Jason La Canfora of NFL.com published an overview of each team's payroll and how much room was left under the salary cap for the 2011 season.
At the time, the Cowboys had a total salary number of $116.7 million, which left them $6.7 million under the cap. Included in those numbers are Andre Gurode's contract as well as Orlando Scandrick's old contract. Gurode was set to make $5.5 million this year with a salary cap hit of $7.16 million. His release saves the Cowboys $5.5 million this year, bringing their total cap space to 12.2 million.
Scandrick signed a 6-year $28.2 million extension, the details of which are not yet known. For the sake of this argument, let's assume the Cowboys pay him his average annual salary of $4.7 million this year (the contract is probably lower this year and backloaded to some degree). Less his original $0.6 million salary for 2011, Scandrick would cost the Cowboys at most $4.1 million against the cap this year. In total, that leaves the Cowboys with at least $8.1 million in cap space for now. What will the Cowboys do with all that cap space?
[Edit: Todd Archer from ESPN Dallas reports the Cowboys have roughly $11.5 cap space available which they could carry over into next year]
The Cowboys currently have 14 players on the roster whose contracts expire after the end of this season. Should the Cowboys extend some of those players now and hope to get a great performance on the cheap, or wait until those players break out before re-signing them and risk overpaying in the process?
Below is the list of Cowboys players who'll hit some type of free agency next year either as unrestricted, restricted or exclusive rights free agents. The Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA) are of no concern to the Cowboys right now, because unless the are released, they may only sign with the Cowboys in 2012, provided of course that the Cowboys extend a minimum qualifying offer to the player.
| Player | 2011 Base Salary | Status 2012 |
| Mat McBriar | 1,700,000 | Free Agent |
| Anthony Spencer | 1,001,000 | Free Agent |
| Montrae Holland | 1,000,000 | Free Agent |
| Orlando Scandrick | 555,000 | Signed 6-yr, $28.2 m extension |
| Martellus Bennett | 555,000 | Free Agent |
| Tashard Choice | 555,000 | Free Agent |
| Martin Rucker | 555,000 | Free Agent |
| Kevin Ogletree | 480,000 | Restricted free agent |
| Manuel Johnson | 405,000 | Exclusive rights free agent |
| Lonyae Miller | 405,000 | Exclusive rights free agent |
| Jermey Parnell | 405,000 | Exclusive rights free agent |
| Andrew Sendejo | 405,000 | Exclusive rights free agent |
| Jesse Holley | 385,000 | Exclusive rights free agent |
| Bryan McCann | 385,000 | Exclusive rights free agent |
| Teddy Williams | 330,000 | Exclusive rights free agent |
Looking over this list, are there players you would like to see the Cowboys extend early, or would you adopt a wait-and-see approach, even it could mean shelling out big bucks next year?
Perhaps you would like to see the Cowboys invest their $8.1 million to extend other players on the roster? Felix Jones, Mike Jenkins, Jay Ratliff, Jason Witten, Stephen McGee and Victor Butler will all be free agents after the 2012 season. Perhaps the Cowboys could be looking to tie up one of these players early.
Or should the Cowboys invest that money somewhere else entirely?
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Lock up McBriar
The king of changing field position! Other than that I do not see any must sign now. Spencer ehh I’d wait and see right?
As for the two year guys, well RB is a touchy spot So I’d leave Felix alone. Witten is a class act I think he can be had any time.
In JG/Stephen I trust to sign these guys how the cap allows it.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
Yep
McBriar is first on my list. After that I’d be thinking harder than I care to.
by Dezstroyer88 on Aug 30, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Do a lot of punters make more than $1.7 a year?
Isn’t it possible he’ll be had for a similar amount? He’s a must keep if he’s in that ball park, should require a lot more.
by StillHateTheGiants on Aug 30, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
that is my choice also
I remember when he got hurt in the Arizona game. Our putting was a disaster until he came back. Was it BP who said you gotta be strong in the kicking game to win a SB. We can’t have a crappy place kicker and punter and still expect to win.
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
Word.
Don’t know why they haven’t done it already…
I smell something... It smells like... hope. And BBQ.
by BlueNSilverBlood on Aug 30, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Scandrick's contract extension...
I read somewhere that they were not rolling any part of the OS contract extension into this year. Not sure if it’s true but thought I would throw it out there to see if anyone else heard exactly how it fits in. Seems like the bonus could go either way.
Where is that Lee guy to explain how the new CBA officially works out???
I’d like to see them reup Montrae Holland – haha! just kidding
Lee Ford on the cap hit
Given my brilliant Ivy League background I can see the secret out clause that Jerry Jones inserted into the binding charter party agreement that will essentially allow him to sign every free agent in football next year and still have it count as a negative against the Cowboys salary cap.
In fact Jerry’s wheeling and dealing will allow him to sign Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Philip Rivers and have it count against the Seattle Seahawks cap. Most of you can’t fathom such mathmatical contraptions and if any of you dare breathe a word of this to anyone I will sue you, your children and their children into serfdom because I am Lee Ford!
by Rome One on Aug 30, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
“A specter is haunting BTB – the specter of LeeFordism.”
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 30, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I am sure
I would find this funny if I only knew who Lee Ford is
Search the fan posts for a post he...
wrote about the new CBA and the salary cap. His legend is based on that post. (I think he disappeared after that.)
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
Lee Ford eats live baby rhinocerouses
Whole.
"I will not and have not ever forgiven Crayton. I wish him the worst luck of any player ever." - footballmensa 08/17/11
Yea like LD said
he wrote these crazy fanposts like a month ago or back in late July when the cba was done talking about that JJ knew all the intricacies of the new deal and put a special clause in there and that teams who had all these back loaded contracts would hit cap hell starting in 2013. It’s quite entertaining really. Where art thou is Lee Ford?
by DarkKnight88 on Sep 1, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank you Mr. Ford!!
Figured i’d throw a Frisky Dingo reference in there for anyone lucky enough to have watched the (unfortunately) short lived series.
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
I really don't understand the cap.
But I thought I heard that we could accelerate some of next year’s dead money into this year. If that option is there, they could cut 20 million in dead money to 12.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 30, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions
Never mind, we can carry money into next year
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4682833/cowboys-have-plenty-of-cap-room
The article says we $11.5 million in cap space and we can carry that credit into next year.
Per the CBA
(v) Carrying Over Room. A Club may "carry over" [Salary Cap] Room from one League Year to the following League Year by submitting notice in writing signed by the owner to the NFL no later than fourteen (14) days prior to the start of the next League Year indicating the maximum amount of Room that the Club wishes to carry over. The NFL shall promptly provide a copy of any such notice to the NFLPA. The amount of Room carried over will be adjusted downward based on the final Room available after the year-end reconciliation
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 30, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, now let me get this right...
As long as we submit a letter in writing, two weeks before the start of the NEW league year…we can carry over all remaining cap to the next year?
Is this new, and wow does that change some dynamics. The salary floor doesn’t start until 2013 correct? A team like the Bucs or someone could load the F up in 2013 if they spent wisely next year. I wonder if theres a cap on the amount you can roll over?
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
Of course, if that last line in your quote answers any of my questions
I’m too stupid to realize it.
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
yes
Some of those 2012 guys are going to get signed mid year if they are performing and their 2012 hit should go up as they are on rookie contracts now. Between the $20MM dead and some of next years signings that $11.5MM credit helps tremendously.
You purge TNew and B James next year and maybe you zero out the $20MM with the credit from this year. Man we need Carter to play this year, to see what we have, and a cornerback to step up.
Together, we WILL make it happen!
by nikeorlipstick on Aug 30, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
alot of movement over the next two years
Looking at that list of players can anyone say for a fact that any of them will be back, except for Scandrick offcourse and maybe Mcbriar?
Rucker probably. Im not even sure Ogletree is here next year. Holland, Bennett, Choice, Spencer, Bennett all probably gone.
Spencer? Really? And your evidence is ... what?
Holland and Choice are not saying much…
but MAYBE McBriar? You have a better idea nobody else knows about?
Bennett has been a perpetual disappointment to date, but I’m not ready to kick him to the curb.
Ogletree has been penciled into the #3 spot … again, you know something the rest of us don’t?
I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)
You actually think Spencer and Bennett deserve an extension on what we seen so far? Really??
Some people think the future #3 WR is not on this team. I like Ogletree, but I dont think he is a lock to be the future #3 WR..
IMO, you can kiss Spencer and Bennett goodbye after this season. Phillips is the future #2 and Butler is Spencer’s replacements. We upgrade those positions without spending money.
With 20mil in dead cap space next year there will be no gimme contracts.
Add Newman and James to that list also…gone!
mark it down...none of them will be here
Spencer has to have the year of his career to save his job. I think everyone here knows Butler is the future at that spot.
uhhh, did you say 2 weeks? Cause if you did that was last Sunday!
by LiveNDieBlue on Aug 30, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The next league year will start on March 12, 2012
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 30, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey OCC...
How do you link to a comment in another post?
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 30, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
You click on the date under the comment, which takes you to a new tab or window that will have the comment at the very top. Then you copy the URL and paste it wherever you please.
This would be the link to your comment: http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/8/30/2393014/dallas-cowboys-free-agents-salary-cap-space#75968284
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 31, 2011 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow, what a task.
Tough to be a GM in this league. I agree with resigning McBriar, but that leaves some substantial money on the table. I’d probably wait and see what I’d need to create some depth this year, then look to see what kind of cap problems will emerge next year and make a decision based on next years problems before I spend the money.
Wish you were here
Nah, McBriar is a punter...
Let him go out and test free agency. He’s a Cowboy for life, so let him see how much other teams want to pay him and Jones will match it.
Or give him a 10 year, $25M deal. Either way.
^^ THIS ^^
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
+57
Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad
by Cowboys_Attack on Aug 31, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
hahaha
hook’ line, and fishing boat!,
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 30, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
very very clever haha
its preseason watch the players individually. igor is garbage!
by yehti on Aug 30, 2011 4:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Terry
Romo can play for 5 more solid. No Doubt.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Romo still has 3 years no reason to do that...
I know he is your boy Terry, but Im not convinced he will be here beyond 2013.
Bennett, Spencer most likely done after this season.
I agree on locking up Ratliff and Witten, but maybe I would wait a little longer until we can clear out some dead money.
Romo will easily be the starting qb as long as he wants to play
Thats simply a fact and I say he won’t even consider retirement until 2018
In Romo we Trust
If J Kitna
Can play at 39. Why not Anyonio Ramiro?
Everythings gonna be alright.
Sorry Terry thats not Garrett's MO..
You can throw the numbers on the back of the jerseys away. Doesn’t matter who you are, If Romo is not performing he wont be here period! If Mcgee keeps impressing he has a very good chance to be the starter in 2014 or maybe sooner. Best case scenerio they franchise Romo for one year and let him walk or trade him when he is 36. You simply cant give him a huge contract like Vick just received for what he is doing now. Have to do smart business.
I want the player to take us to the next level, but if he can’t, groom someone else. You simply cant throw him the huge money at this point.
The guy who will take over for Romo
is not on the roster. I expect JG to draft his RKG. Nothing against Romo, he will continue to play well for the next three years. The thing is that I cannot see JG mortgaging his future as coach on any QB without an upside. And, for the record, I am not saying that Romo is on the downside of his career.
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
Yes
and although we are in love with the ccomeback kid Stephen Mc Gee I think over the next 3 years we should start an arms race. Extra amounts of young kids with live arms challenging him. Who knows, we could find the next Tony Romo.
Everythings gonna be alright.
LDVF there are some good qb's in the 2012 draft. I will write about them at some point during the college season.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I liked
the scouts son. I think he was from Bama? You know who I am talking about? Went in the 5th round.
Everythings gonna be alright.
McElroy.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He is a Jet.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
What wouldve been wrong with him playing 3 this year to McGee?
Everythings gonna be alright.
Nothing would have been wrong with it.....
I don’t know that he would win u a superbowl….but at some point u have to draft another qb so we aren’t having a Quincy part 2.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Why
Late round QB’s make that happen all the time. Do you have an issue with his accuracy or his arm strength? He played at abig school beat up on Texas.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Rodgers, Brees, Peyton Manning , Eli Manning all first round draft choices.
Brady is an anomaly. I am a huge sec fan. I watched McElroy play many many times. Especially vs my LSU Tigers. He is a good qb and he could be a good game manager. His arm is not strong at all.
If he wins a superbowl I would be beyond stunned.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Brees was technially a second rounder.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah man you just never know
Montana didnt have a strong arm 6 foot 2 skinny kid, 3rd round pick. Antonio Ramiro, undrafted. Thats why they play the game.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Dont have to have a cannon to win
I think the most important characteristic for a QB is accuracy.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Thought
we dont care about draft position any more in Dallas? No more pedigree stuff?
Everythings gonna be alright.
point about draft position...
Dallas has an UDFA snapping the ball(Costa) to an UDFA who then can pass the ball to an UDFA
How many top ten Offenses can say that?
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 30, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If
Costa makes the probowl. Then you can add probowl to that. We would officially have the best scouting department in the un iverse.
Everythings gonna be alright.
it's not unusual for UDFA linemen to make the pro bowl
I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)
If you had uttered those words 5 years ago
you would probably be locked-up some place on heavy meds
by meisternance on Aug 31, 2011 4:38 AM CDT up reply actions
And...
if Phillip Tanner makes the squad, you can add the option of handing off to an UDFA.
Rabid and luvin' it
by lonewolfz28 on Aug 31, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
draft a mid to late round qb every year
green bay used to clean up on draft picks by developing qbs and trading them for #1s or 2s.
And the Eagles did the same with Kolb.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 31, 2011 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Terry, are you serious...
Given the precedence set this offseason, you don’t think the time will come in 4 years that JG will say, time for a young guy to takeover?
"In the real world fans aren't fixated on football in the off-season -- they are [fixated on it] now and we are ready to go." --- Jerry Jones, the Plato of the NFL.
If he doesn't improve from What????
He has the fourth ALL TIME highest passing efficiency rating of all time. All teams.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Dont be enamered by those numbers...overrated!
For all that I cant think of plenty of bone head plays he has made. Its the bone head plays at critical times that got him in trouble and from taking the next step. He may never get there. His time is running out so he better figure it out soon because Garrett wont wait.
Sorry brotha gotta disagree completely
You sound like the guys on espn. First the story was Tony can’t win in December, he did that. Tony can’t win in the playoffs, he has done that. Now, its he can’t win the big one. They said that about Peyton and we know how that turned out.
Everythings gonna be alright.
I want the guy to succeed
I just dont know if he cant take the next step that’s all. Romo is not Garrett’s guy, so like it was said above at some point he is going to draft or acquire his guy. Probably next years draft, but I wouldnt count out Mcgee.
how can you say that Romo isn't Garrett's Guy?
virtually every decision that Garrett has made has been focused on Romo….if He truly wasn’t Garrett’s guy, then he would have traded him once he took over….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 30, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
JG luuuuuuuuvs him some T Romo
I think TR secretly told JG to get rid of that wart T.O. I can see it now J, we don’t need him. Draft me a reicever get me a fast RB and pay my boy witten and
Everythings gonna be alright
Everythings gonna be alright.
Tony further utters
JG, man look, its like the triplets on steroids me, miles, Dez, Jones, Can’t you see it?
Everythings gonna be alright.
Garrett would've did what he did Romo or not let's not kid ourselves
The OL has been a mess for a long time. Romo, Kitna or Mcgee, Garrett wouldve made the same changes.It had to be done.
Romo was a Parcells guy is what Im saying. Just like any new HC they want to put their stamp on the franchise. If Romo cant get it done then Garrett will have no problem moving on without him. He has already shown that it doesnt matter who you are when it comes to him.
Parcells left
Romo on the bench for four years and played guys like Q. Carter, Vinny “green balls”,Drew Bledsoe. Romo go on the field due to injury and never gave up the job. Took us to the playoffs that year, his first by the way. Same year he made the probowl in all of ten games. Sean Payton scouted Tony Romo and convinced him to sign with us instead of Denver. If anything he is Sean Paytons boy.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Thats all great, but still not a Garrett hand picked player
That’s kind of what Im getting at. Romo has to take the next step or Garrett will have no problem moving on from him. He has 3 years, maybe less to showcase why he deserves an extension otherwise he is gone. Either way, I believe like some here that Garrett will draft a QB to succeed Romo..2012???
Time will tell my friend
.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Yeah we will see...
I didnt catch Aikman’s comments recently about the team but apparently he said if we dont make real improvements this season it maybe time to blow things up. Sounded like he was pointing the finger at Romo.
Boyz i think u are
rite in regards to it doesn’t matter what you’ve done in the past or who your name is, if u wanna be on the team u gotta produce. With solid oline play I think Antonio can have at least a good 3-4 yrs left.
by DarkKnight88 on Sep 1, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully Romo
has 3 really great years and it makes it easier for Jerry to give him an extension. If not, it maybe time to move on which I think they will.
Very true
and i think Garrett is trying to instill that mindset for everyone on this team, either produce or your gone which is how teams are consistent playoff/SB contenders. It just makes my blood boil to realize that some great yrs have been wasted with romo, witt, rat, ware, bradie, newman when he was healthy.
by DarkKnight88 on Sep 1, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Rat will be gone if they don't move him.
He can’t play nt at 285. He might could play dt in a 4-3.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I would really like him to replace Igor next year as the full time DE
and draft a massive athletic NT. Rat isnt getting any younger and a change would extend his career IMO.
I have been calling for a huge nt on this blog and I get hammered. Go figure.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
What about Brent
325. You want 350 then get him 30 McDoubles.
Everythings gonna be alright.
You are right
Jay being used as a NT is a waste of talent. His body isnt built to take the NT punishment (constant double teams – both by play design and double just cause its Rat)
I think if we did have a bigun in the middle Im sure RR could really make 90 shine.
by meisternance on Aug 31, 2011 4:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 31, 2011 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I have a question
to all those that say that Jay HAS to move from the NT position due to the Double teams….
How is this relevent?…He will get a Double team regardless…at either DE or NT…
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 31, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
If he is playing on the side of Ware I doubt he see's many double teams.
Especially if you have a massive nt to split the guard and center. That’s why I wish we would switch to a 4-3.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 31, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Rat was getting stoned last yr
while he was in the 300s. I don’t think anybody should expect him to put up results at 285, they need to move him around get him in single coverage and bring in a big space eater.
by DarkKnight88 on Sep 1, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Eh
I like Rucker over Bennett, but I’d give Bennett this year to show he won’t drop passes at critical times. Holley depends on how he does this year as well. Unless Spencer comes alive he seems like JAG and we can find those from our UDFA’s. Parnell you might roll the bones and just offer him the same money for another 2 years or so, he can be bought cheap and has good upside. McBriar we have to lock him up and then find someone to pass the torch to for later.
To me everyone else is expendable. McCann gets lively on ST but I don’t think he actually plays his position very well and don’t like it taking up a spot we could use on someone else.
Bennett's game is drop the ball and get injured. That's about it. Move Philips to no. 2 and take the flyer on Rucker as the 3rd TE.
Trade Bennett for a number 3 in the 2012 draft, or to anyone for a CB. When Romo ‘needs’ a third down pass, He’d look at most of us, before he’d look at Bennett.
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They have Jarred Cook, he's a future star
they need a second running back, Choice would be a starter there, (here)
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 30, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Bennett is as good as gone after this season
Phillips should and will be the #2 IMO and Rucker from what I hear can line up as a WR. Kid has some talent.
Due I would buy you dinner if you could get a 3rd for Bennett.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
They had a chance at getting a #2 from Cinci
2 years ago…Jerry shouldve been all over that. Cant even get a cup of coffee for him now.
Bennet has missed
two games in three years. I wouldn’t call that injury prone.
maybe not but it seems like he is..
problem is he drops too many passess and in a contract year he cant have that.
He dropped 3 passes
last year. Its preseason, relax. That man is a BEAST.
Everythings gonna be alright.
well he isnt helping himself in a contract year...
and with guys like Phillips and Rucker chomping at his heels his chances of getting a new contract are slim. They should look to trade him, seriously. Get something now instead of him walking next year. How many times have we let decent players walk with no or very little compensation. Jerry shouldve taken that 2nd round pick from Cinci. Bet you he is kicking himself now!!
2nd rounder for Martellus
would be fair. He is young, but I don’t think the Cowboys feel the same way you do. We will see here pretty quick. Maybe Marty B. busts out this year.
Everythings gonna be alright.
I'd lock in Holland for Six years 100million with 40 million guarranteed!
“What??”
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Aug 30, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions
or a tub of melted butter
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 30, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Lumpy rules
Contrary to popular belief, Lumpy did come into camp in shape.
In the shape of a bloated walrus.
It would be hilarious and a mocking from the football gods
If he loses weight, ends up starting and makes the pro bowl or something…Then nobody on here could say anything…not likely but just imagine how funny it would be.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
ain't ever gonna happen
"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden
He came in shape alright.....round shape
but in all seriousness. I don’t want the guy to start but there was never a huge drop off when he came in as a backup. Thats just what he is. A backup.
Oh, and a big tub of goo.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 30, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Question is
How long can he sustain that level of play while he’s backup. For only one game is no good.
There is more natural gas in Montrae
Then in all of Texas.
Jerry Jones should buy land rights to his belly.
by Rome One on Aug 30, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look at that side of beef
The hamburger looks pretty good too.
Everythings gonna be alright.
Hey, I know tha guy!!
isn’t he one of the guys that played O-Line for whats’ his name, he was Shaine Falco, in “The Replacements”?
Can't tell if
He is eating that hamburger or if its the other way around
Everythings gonna be alright.
To play nose tackle?
we have our own Haynesworthless on the roster and don’t even realize it!
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Problem is
You’d turn around and find him snacking on someones arm or something. To dangerous to allow out on the field.
I've Got It!!!!!!!!!
Paint the football so it looks like a whole fried Chicken, and let Holland play TE!! He would never drop one of those babies!!! Of course all plays would be near the goal line, on a long RAC he would eat the ball before he could score!
Jerry should just buy him a string of Krispi Creme shops in NFC East cities.
Family, Friends, Cowboys, Beer & BBQ. Life is good!
Holland versus Alex Barron
Alex Barron jokes are funnier than Holland jokes.
by Jonathan Stern on Aug 30, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I still like Choice...
but apparently the Cowboys don’t.
I would probably extend McBriar, at the right price, plus whichever WR, of the three on the list, that Jerry/Jason think has the greatest likelyhood of still being on the roster 4-5 years from now.
I was so poor growing up ... if I wasn't a boy ...I'd have had nothing to play with. (Rodney Dangerfield)
Going To Use Some $ To Pay Dave Rayner
We have our new kicker! They got their man…he is it.
Signed after Detroit cut him.
Jerry sent his jet to pick him up, and he is already in Dallas.
Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
Only Jerry would send his private Jet
to pick up a kicker.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Aug 30, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Guode was looking at the Seahawks
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd consider McBriar and Spencer
but no one else. We know we have Felix and Murray locked up, so there really isn’t a reason to extend Choice at this point.
Not included on the list are our 1 year deal guys like Elam and Sensabuagh. It’s too early to tell, but if either plays well this year, they could consider locking one of them up mid season.
I’d like to see Ratliff or Witten extended with some front loaded contracts that push money into this year and lower their cap in future years.
McBriar
I would have added Scandrick to the list if he could be extended on the cheap, but that ship has already sailed. That leaves only McBriar. We might want to keep Spencer, but that would qualify as a “wait and see” in my book. The rest of the guys can be replaced if we get outbid.
Let Spencer walk
Somebody else will over pay him…JAG written all over him
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Miami
Loves all of our garbage players…they should just give us their draft picks and let us choose for them. What a rediculous philosophy “Oh well he sucked for the Cowboys maybe he can be good for us”
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
last article I read about the Dolphins
They were talking about the new faces of the franchise. Spencer could be that for them.
I think the new faces they were talking about were the coaches
(unless Chad Henne suddenly blows up)
Since your new I'll be nice this time.
http://www.cowboysnation.com/2011/08/ware-and-spencer-different-roles.html
Butler is the ROLB he would have to puch Ware off the field, now Rob is known to put some crazy stuff on the field like one DT and ten corners,,,,, I jest ,,, a little
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 30, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
If I read that article right,
Then it validates what I have been thinking and my freinds who both actually played have said. we should be thanking spencer, and not critisizing him. He is considered by those who know more than I, to be the best run blocker in the league at his position. Look at his stats.
I don't think there is one player on that list
that will break out this year, especially for big money. I think the other players like Ratliff, Witten and Jones are a high priority. Would love to see Butler get locked up though, dude is gonna be a beast. I just hope it’s for us.
Agree
Either Butler has a good year and shows Spencer to be expendable…or he shows we again need to draft an outside linebacker..I am hoping Butler is all we think he can be I like his upside, I am just tired of Spencer…good against the run…sure…but what else?
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Butler.
Future Pro-Bowler. Mark it down.
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
I hope so
He can ball…just has to put it all together
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Sign Mario Butler
Let him play on defense and then we can see the Victor powers activate the defense.
I hope Victor Butler beats out Spencer
So he can be the next Lamar Woodley. Since we picked Spencer over Woodley…
by dcsince77 on Aug 30, 2011 6:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Butler is going to be Ryan's monster man.
He’ll line up in different positions DE, ILB, NT, hell he may even play safety in a few sets.
Lock n Load
I see Spencer comin out of this team after season... we will not pay him big money
I like situation at OLB, if Spencer wants big money and someone will pay him lot of money, then we can let him go and start Butler without any problems…if he will not receiver high offers and we can resing him for free…then better for us….but no way we are going to use rest of cap space on this player
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
Lions cut Jerome Felton
He was TD machine in college, and known as a solid blocker. I don’t know much more other than that he is young and apparently healthy. You guys think should take any action on him?
I think your looking on the wrong side of the ball
Need to look around for some more secondary some where.
Felton is good FB
But we may not have room. Chapas is showing some promise and had good short yardage run, but we have same issues the Lions have that led to Felton release…a lot of RB and TE we want to keep.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Aug 30, 2011 3:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Choice
No need to worry about extending him as I don’t believe he makes the final 53 anyway
Got five, deperately seeking six!
Jones is the man now
And Murray is the new kid on the block.
Unfortunately, Choice is the odd man out.
Third string backs are easily replaceable…hello Philip Tanner.
You know who might be out of a job soon
Jason Avant.
Wonder what will happen to that guy.
Jackson, Maclin, Steve Smith (if healthy), and I know they love Riley Cooper and the Hall kid.
Avant is not a four….Cooper is the four.
I wonder how deep the Dreamers will go at WR.
Until they sign DeSean, Avant is not going anywhere
Sounds like the two sides are really far apart too.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Aug 30, 2011 3:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
McBriar (because his is actually up at the end of the season) first
Then Witten, Jones, Butler…all get extensions based off of right now. Ask me again week 12
You aint been around in awhile, maybe you haven't heard........I don't shine shoes no more
Cowboys cap management
I think it should be noted that the Cowboys not only have shown a new draft culture and new trust in competition and young guys starting….but their use of contracts, releasing players, and creating this much cap room in a year we started over the cap is just another great sign for the franchise.
I think it will be a while before we see another old and overpaid free agent join this team, but a new signing before the season starts is not out of the question.
Imagine this much cap space and TNew is still making about 9mil! If he doesn’t come back from injury we have the space for DB signing. If young talented DL is dropped during the 80 man roster cuts (or later) we may go after them. And if Holland turns to a donuts, we have cap space to sign veteran OF to back up young guys.
Wow, what a difference a HC that takes charge can have for a franchise.
While I hope we re-sign Butler, to all those calling for him to start every play, keep an eye on how Ryan uses Spencer….Butler can’t do have of those thongs right now and will never be able to play 3-4 DE like Ryan has asked Spencer to do.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Aug 30, 2011 3:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Keg, Thank you, +11 BTW very long thread alert!!
See my above post. My words have bem falling on deff ears. Many, if not most posters here have more football knowledge than I do. I watch and re-watch every game I get, (DVR). What I see is that our opponents do everything in their power to run away from Spencer.
Check out the link that Musiccity provides to “The CowboyNation” above at 1:01pdt. what they say is EXACTLY what I have been trying to say for quite some time now. Spencer is a real key to our 3-4, and is one reason that D-Ware gets all those sacks. What he really brings to the Cowboys is not easily measured by any current stat or metric. If I knew how to, I would love to get a thread going about Spencer specificaly. I am certain that there are some here at BTB that could show us all how valuable Spencer is to the Cowboys. He has great value to the ’Boys, we just cannot look at his sack stats to show it.
Thank you for your time,
JMHO, and as always, YMMV.
Willy
spelling alert.
- been falling on deaf ears
Although I have said it before, i also meant to incluse that a lot of people who know the game consider him to be the best run stopper at his position in the NFL.
I wish there was an edit button here. My spell-check has fallen victem to the jobs recovery program, it thinks it deserves a check but won’t do anything to earn it.
Spencer's value has also increased with Rob Ryan Defense
So far it seems a staple, and if continues do do so into the season I will certainly be writing about it, what I call the “Spencer Nickel.”
Rob Ryan has started using Spencer as a DL with his hand on the ground when he brings in an extra corner. Spencer can hold up as a downlineman against the run, he can also rush with his hand on the ground, be he can also drop back into coverage – though he had his hand on the ground.
He has effectively become Landry’s Flex Lineman, someone who can play with hand on the gorund or stand up and be a linebacker. Defensive designs and coverages and blitz packages can be disguised when you have such a (Rob Ryan word) versatile player.
That being said and agreeing Spencer provides way more than many critics think, he is not consistent yet. He has flashed some incredible ability, usually plays well above average, but he hasn’t quite taken that step yet…but Ryan will offer him every opportunity.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
basically
Spencer is taking The role that Matt Roth played in Cleveland
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 30, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is a quote from Ryan you will like Willy. I originally posted it about a month ago, but I know you are new so I am repeating it.
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas): Maybe in some situations, but I can’t see that happening on a regular basis. Ryan looks at you like you’re stupid when you suggest that Spencer has been a disappointment.
Thank you Rena
Idon’t just like it, I love it!!!
I keep reading post that say we ned corner back help, I'm not so sure
Scandrick had a low ypa comparable to Joseph and Nnamdi at slot. Slot recievers have the hardest job on the field,,, Scandrick has excelled at this role,,,, Jenkis is a year removed from the pro bowl and a year with the worst coverage safety in the league in Allen Ball,,,, He will be given man duties which he excells at, Newman is the wild card, I bet he’s on the roster game day if only because Jenkis did not practice this off season,,,, I know it’s an optimistic view, but I think its a realitic possibilaty,
of those
the only sure one is McBriar. he is a defensive weapon with his kicking, specially landing them inside the 20.
spencer should also be resigned, but wait until mid-year.
"I think it should be noted that the Cowboys not only have shown a new draft culture"
New? Last year’s draft looks a lot like this draft
?!
Besides the Bruce Carter equals Sean Lee pick, not sure why you would think that. T Smith pick is a break in 22year trend, and we have already seen more from 2011 class than 2010, so I would like you to clarify if you have a minute..
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Aug 30, 2011 3:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and I still think AOA deserves a full year
by Musiccitynorm on Aug 30, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Here we are in agreement
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Aug 30, 2011 4:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No, no,no
Dez was star with issues dropping in the draft, Smith was linemen inTop 10, one flashy the other not…no relation.
Arkin and Nagy were drafted, Costa was UDFA. The drafts were nothing alike and better evaluating and drafting (so far) in 2011 draft.
"I am a true believer. Anthony Spencer will have 7 or more sacks in 2011 and David Arkin can ball!" - Kegbearer
"Leadership is a matter of having people look at you and gain confidence, seeing how you react. If you're in control, they're in control." - Tom Landry
Now on twitter: @kegbearerBTB
by Kegbearer on Aug 30, 2011 4:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Certainly would wait on Stephen McGee
He shows flashes but Jerry please wait on him and let him pan out a little. No need to get yourself in a cap crapper just cause ya got money in your pocket at this moment.
OCC, I could care less, but can't resist to point out an error to the master of stats ...
I don’t think 116.7 – 5.5 = 112.2
:)
I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)
Ha ha ha. That is true, but I also never wrote that :-)
Look closely: it’s 6.7 plus 5.5 that equals 12.2
I think you may have mistaken a $ sign for a 1. Twice. Man, what are they doing to you down there?
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 30, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, boy ... how to wiggle my way out of this one?
:)
… and I can’t even blame substances.
I guess it was just the sheer giddiness of thinking I’d caught OCC in a mathematical error that skewed my judgment. So I guess I’ll take door number 2: I could care less :)
I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)
Next time do what I did, when I caught something OCC had posted that looked incorrect I asked if the other people had screwed up. ;)
That way if OCC says he didn’t you are innocent!
Today you'll get to laugh at my expense all you want.
I’m putting up a Captain Hindsight post with some things that I got utterly, horribly wrong last year.
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 31, 2011 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
… as long as you don’t look up my mistakes! :)
I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)
would need a month long series for that Dalai....
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.
by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 31, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
careful, Iron ... I'll sic WhiteWolf and his posse of crack investigators on your azz :)
I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)
The best thing about this is that I don't see any rush here.
The team can wait and see on this. Outside of maybe locking McBriar in, all the others can be looked at into the regular season to see who emerges. And meanwhile, have the money available in case the team needs to sign someone like a place kicker or some other improbable situation.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
There isn't a replacement for Witten on the roster. Bennett is a huge dissapointment.
I think the reason Murray was drafted is because Felix will want huge money if has 2 good years and they wanted a replacement now. It will give him 2 years to learn the system.
Other than McBriar , Witten and Felix there isn’t anyone worth keeping. That said how would you feel about another te in the second round next draft ? Yea I know.
Jenkins has a lot to prove before he deserves a big contract. The 2012 draft needs to be all about d the first 3 rounds. If Dallas has any extra tradeable commodities next draft they should explore them and draft as many db’s as they can.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
ANd a nt.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 30, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably not
but Phillips would do a fine job and this Rucker kid has simliar characteristics as some former TE named Jay! Thats what Brad Sham said the other day.
It all depends on the amount they would accept
of course, but I’d say McBriar and Butler. But I would be happy just to roll the excess into next year’s cap. They can be good this year, but next year is the year they should really threaten to go all the way. Having some funds to sign a free agent or two next year could be key.
Of course if JJ would have taken my suggestion before the 2010 season, they wouldn’t have dead money. I suggested to Jean Jacques Taylor that they should cut Roy W, Colombo, Davis, Barber, and Gurode if they weren’t having a good season. Then the cap hit likely would have been accelerated into 2010 when there was no cap.
by HarrisburgCowboyFan on Aug 30, 2011 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
^ this times INFINITY
Harrisburgh especially when they had 1 win in the first 8 games.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
And Jean Jacques Taylor blew it off
and didn’t even put it in the newsletter. He just emailed me and said “it would accelerate whenever they are cut” in response to my question of why not cut them IN THE UNCAPPED YEAR if they are not seriously in the race for the playoffs and superbowl. I guess he just didn’t understand that accelerating it in the uncapped year was the whole idea. I don’t know how most of these paid sports journalist get there jobs. The bloggers are SO much better, especially those at BTB.
Unless there was some rule or perhaps an unwritten agreement among owners not to dump players, I don’t see why they didn’t do it. That no team did it makes me wonder if something was up, but Dallas probably had the most to gain.
by HarrisburgCowboyFan on Aug 30, 2011 7:26 PM CDT reply actions
Davis Roy and Barber were not cut because you know who thought we had a shot at the superbowl.
Watching Roy drop passes for another year and Davis ole blocking and Barber run for 2 yards and celebrating like he scored a td in the superbowl was beyond dumb. it ain’t hard to figure out why this team has continually dissapointed.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
You know its bad
When Roy goes to another team and is faced with getting cut because he sucks.
by Final Frame on Aug 30, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep , on a team that need's wr's. All u need to know.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 31, 2011 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Lets sign or trade for a CB
Not anyone super expensive…just a solid CB for insurance, keep our CB draft picks, tell Alan Ball its been real, been fun, hasn’t been real fun….and maybe a FA DE better than Olshitzky after we cut him, which won’t be hard to find. Were as good as were gonna get on offense, lets upgrade the D just a little.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
theres no one really solid to sign
this is the team Jerrys rolling with this season
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Bank it for next year
McBriar is the only one on that list that i would not want to get to FA
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
Well.....my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle
"Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name"

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