Cowboys Training Camp Open Thread - 8/8/11
by One.Cool.Customer on Aug 8, 2011 2:30 PM CDT
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PrintUse this as an open thread for any Dallas Cowboys related topic during the afternoon practice today.
Today's Injury List
C Andre Gurode (knee), CB Terence Newman (groin), LB Bruce Carter (knee), RB DeMarco Murray (hamstring), LB Keith Brooking (hamstring), RB Tashard Choice (calf), WR Teddy Williams (hamstring), K Kai Forbath (quad), WR Manny Johnson (concussion), WR Titus Ryan (foot).
Jay Ratliff, Montrae Holland, Alan Ball and Mike Jenkins are likely to be back today.
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Quote from JG about what is a physical football team.
Asked to define what a physical team looks like, Garrett invoked the comparison to the age old definition of pornography: “it’s hard to define but you know what it is when you see it.”
Victor Butler picks off McGee on the first play
This guy really needs to be on the field more often.
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:24 PM CDT reply actions
He shows up every day
Too bad he backs up DWare. He’s be a great 3rd down rusher for Spencer
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Yeah
I was thinking after this year he could be plugged in for Spencer. I know he backs up Ware on the weak side but can’t he play strong side as well?
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know. You'd think so...
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Choice Trade
DCStarJEllis RT @thirtypk facebook is loaded with rumors of Choice being traded to Tennessee for Finnegan? True?} That makes no sense for Tennessee.
If this were true, Tenn needs to be slapped. What are they thinking?
I’d like it though…
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
I call BS
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
LMAO
I don’t believe it for a minute. Detroit might need a trade for a #2 and might have a player they’ll give up that we want. But, that trade is as bad as the RW trade only in reverse
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Detroit would make sense
A pick or Guard or a Corner would be nice.
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course that would be nice
but do they have a guy at those positions we want and they’re willing to let go? Not likely
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
also sd..
There was rumors about this a while back
by lostar2009 on Aug 8, 2011 4:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Mikel LeShoure out
for the season. Detroit might be a team to trade with if TC can get healthy quick
Together, we WILL make it happen!
by nikeorlipstick on Aug 8, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Finnegan isn't the RKG.
Remember last year when he harassed Andre Johnson until he took him to the ground? Not a classy character from what I’ve seen.
by Hatchetman337 on Aug 8, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
+1000
I don’t care how good finnegan is. He is a complete punk and JG won’t want him.
by Dynamicduo on Aug 8, 2011 5:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The self proclaimed "dirtiest player in the league"?
Don’t see that happening, especially for Choice.
I like the sound of this.
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas):
Actually had that discussion with Hudson Houck today while Doug Free worked with Tyron Smith on footwork for about 15 minutes following walkthrough. Kosier, an extremely intelligent guy, is the leader in the classroom. He’ll ask questions because he knows the rookies don’t know the answers and need to. Free is a quiet guy by nature, but he’s taking more of a leadership role.
GMTA
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
What's GMTA?
Its alphabet soup with in big D
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 8, 2011 6:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
great minds think alike + GMTA It's old school chat room stuff from when the www was new
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Love that about Kosier
I think that’s a huge factor, cuz lots of times people are afraid to look dumb, so they don’t ask.
by Baked Potato Soup on Aug 8, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
More GREAT news from Camp
Comment From Jake B.
Are guys like Kyle Kosier, and Gurode, doing a good job mentoring the young offensive linemen? That seemed to be something the staff liked “intangible-wise” with columbo
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas):
Actually had that discussion with Hudson Houck today while Doug Free worked with Tyron Smith on footwork for about 15 minutes following walkthrough. Kosier, an extremely intelligent guy, is the leader in the classroom. He’ll ask questions because he knows the rookies don’t know the answers and need to. Free is a quiet guy by nature, but he’s taking more of a leadership role.
Another example of a Cowboy being a leader. This might be a good year with an entire team of guys with this kind of attitude.
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
lol you both just posted the same thing
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
lol right...
but its good to hear stuff like that from camp. Free can help Smith be a great player.
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
This guy shows up every day. Damn
Albright bats down Brandstater’s first throw.
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
He's 6'5
tall guy
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He's on my projected 53 as of a week ago
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yeppers
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I got Lemon going to the PS
Albright would never clear waivers
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Carter makes the 53 and can pull up Lemon if needed
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Does the PUP list count towards the 53?
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, I oviously didn't know
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
It is kinda like a mini IR.
But they have to be taken off by a certain time or else they are on IR for the rest of the year.
I don't know
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
This guy's huge. Hope he can play
toddarcher:
Pepa Letuli back to practice after missing few days with ankle injury.
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
This question has been thrown around here some
Comment From Guest : With the potential move of playing Gurode at G and keeping Phil Costa at C, how has Costa looked?
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas):
Costa looks like a solid backup who might be over his head as a starter. He definitely is outmatched by Jay Ratliff.
Babe Laufenberg is beating the Gurode to guard drum, and he wouldn’t make a suggestion like that on CBS 11 without some inside knowledge. So there’s some real smoke there. But one source reminded me today that Gurode wasn’t a very good guard when he played there early in his career.
Only in an extreme emergency
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
BryanBroaddus:
@DCBlueStar Costa gives you everything he has. Admire his toughness but has limited size. Not a prototype at all. [via Twitter]
Is that a scouting report on Mark Stepnoski?
Oh, he was talking about Costa ;)
by bewareofdware on Aug 8, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
good one
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
see similarities for sure
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't get the limited size comment.
At 6’3", 311lbs, the guy is bigger than quite a few “Pro Bowl” centers: http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosPlayers.cfm?playerID=FF6DEA1F-0F16-14DC-8471972E5DCF0293
Contrast that with:
Maurkice Pouncey 6’4" 304lbs to start last season: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/maurkice-pouncey/766421
Dan Koppen 6’2" 296lbs: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/dan-koppen/140741
Nick Mangold 6’4" 307lbs: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/nick-mangold/401279
Ryan Kalil 6’2" 295lbs: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/ryan-kalil/469347
Rabid and luvin' it
Size has nothing to do with it....
Talent does and Costa is limited.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The comment was...
Admire his toughness but has limited size. Not a prototype at all
So, yes, size DID have something to do with the conversation.
Rabid and luvin' it
He means Costa has shorter arms than what is wanted.
That is why he went undrafted, short arms.
Throwing it out there (maybe a retread)
But I like the Babe, if for no other reason than because he made it as Aikman’s backup in Techmo Superbowl.
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 8, 2011 7:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
For the few TO fans.
Comment From teon
TO coming back to play the 3rd receiver? if he was willing to take a tiny contract would cowboys bite?
4:08
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas):
Yeah, right. Jason Garrett would surely welcome a guy who threw him under the bus at every opportunity. Heck, maybe T.O. could stay in a spare bedroom at the Garrett house.
(That’s sarcasm, in case it wasn’t thick enough to tell.)
lol
some of these questions amaze me
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, it sounds like trade our second for Mays or get Osi now!
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
lol yea
some guy was comparing Osi to Haley. He could be the last piece.
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
no...
even to be overrated DE is really enough for him….
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
I doubt it
He’s been a 4-3 DE his entire career in college and pros and we’re in shortened offseason so I doubt he gets traded to any 3-4 team.
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Not in this system.
Can you imagine them asking Osi to drop out in coverage? The dude threw a hissy fit every time they asked him to do anything besides rush the passer.
Rabid and luvin' it
Just people in the espn training camp chat
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4681681/camp-chat-live-from-the-alamodome-xx
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
The T.O. question has come up on these boards a couple times as well.
Things that make you go…
Rabid and luvin' it
These guys need to stop posting from the bar.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Buehler goes 3-4
missed from 36.
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
Bailey goes 4-4
All I want for my birthday this year... is for the Cowboys to beat the Jets
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:47 PM CDT reply actions
I am ready to see Forbath vs. Bailey
Do you know when Forbath will be healthy?
I've been asking that question for a while now
no idea.
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Love this site!
Nowhere else can I hear an demand for an injured, third string, free agent kicker.
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 8, 2011 7:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Love this site!
Nowhere else can I hear an outcry for an injured, third string, free agent kicker.
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 8, 2011 7:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas):
Very interesting: Kyle Kosier got a rep at RG. Did good job vs. Olshansky.
But who the hell is a LG??????
That’s the important thing to know….
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Arkin
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
About time.
I’ve been wanting to see how that works since we drafted Arkin. Just makes too much sense…experience-rookie-experience-experience-rookie. We’ve got our smartest guys next to the two rookies and Kosier can still point out the line adjustments to Gurode.
Rabid and luvin' it
I'm sure Arkin
wants to be lined up as far away as possible from Ware after this haha….
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas):
Ware came up the middle and bull-rushed Arkin into Romo’s lap. …
How is Ijalana doing for the Colts...
he is bigger than Arkin and the Colts said they would play him at guard. he was available in the 3rd when Dallas drafted. It will be interesting to watch how he and Arkin do compared to each other.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m also a colts fan so I’ve been keeping up with them. He’s doing okay but isn’t a refined blocker yet and got beaten by Hughes a lot (a former first rounder that has not amounted to much so far). Hope this helps!
by willyoubemycharizard on Aug 8, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Ty sir !
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
wow, Jerry Hughes sucks too, no offense
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
This sure makes a lot of sense
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
he does suck
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Most o linemen do a good job vs Igor.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
from ESPN chat
Tim MacMahon (ESPNDallas): Kitna out to Bennett for 15. … Smith and Kosier — again at right guard — handle Spencer/Spears. Spencer slipped through on stunt next rep.
Also…
Arkin is working next to Free. Ware’s speed as he twists inside is tough for Arkin to handle. Arkin got beat straight up by Hatcher the next rep, maybe anticipating a stunt.
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Aug 8, 2011 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Ahhhhhh
The ol’ guard switcharoo
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
Maybe Rex Ryan is in charge of the OL today
Yeah, he’ll confuse the pass rushers by moving OLinemen around! lol
Now, Philly did put an OL coach in charge of their D, so who knows?
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, isn't it both? Realist Larry, 2009
by Realist Larry on Aug 8, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems like the DBs are fighting hard today
Not always winning, but really fighting
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
I think Dallas will wait until the final cuts to bring in a vet guard. Same thing with cb.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
much more likely than th etrade Choice now voices.
What if Felix J gets hurt preseason? Miler and a rookie (hurt rookie)? I don’t think so.
Have to wait.
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by Realist Larry on Aug 8, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Any word from.Joe D on scheme for the new kick off rules?
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
big day for Radway, they need to keep this kid, 6'3 4.3 40
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Choice and Igor both have cap friendly contracts.
I don’t see either of them going anywhere this season.
Lock n Load
Igor isnt really cap friendly
would you say he is worth 3.5 million dollars? I wouldnt, just saying
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Sherrod has moved into the starting lineip at lg for the Packers.
With Bulaga and now Sherrod the Packers have a nice mix working. I’m jealous that they are able to build their line so easily.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
we have Free and TRON, why so jealous?
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
To the Packers credit they spend higher picks on o linemen.
It all begins at the line. Always has and always will.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
and we totally changed our OL drafting wayd
a OT 9th overall and a OG in the 4th a C/G 7th FB 7th
we are moving in the right direction
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
if smith and arkin work Dallas has 3/5ths done. thats not to bad considering 2 years ago.....
Bye bye osama, gotta a headache?
by yehti on Aug 8, 2011 5:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bulaga a rookie last year, Sherrod a rookie this year....
Dallas seems to have a much harder time building an o line. It took Free a while to develop. We are sitting at home hoping like heck Arkin comes around. I haven’t seen one post that they want Holland to start.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
Free Tyron Arkin is going to be a core of the OL for a long time
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 get the best OT or G in the second next year and a center the following and boom.... new O-line for 7 years+
Bye bye osama, gotta a headache?
by yehti on Aug 8, 2011 5:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Chia , Arkin is still up in the air. We need him to start and be good. Not a career backup..
Right now we aren’t sure what he is going to be.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
future starter
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe. We all hope he is.....
if he starts by default because he is the lesser of 2 evils then that is counter productive. Tyron will be a stud. Arkin is an intense try hard guy. So we will see.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
we shall see
I really liked the Arkin pick because of what Mayock said about him, Trent Diler knew who Arkin was and I was shocked
the day before the draft Goose Gosselin said Arkin was going to be a good player too
Broaddus said last night that he is seeing why Tyron was graded so highly by teams across the league, that is good news
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
They've used back-to-back 1st round picks on the oline
We’ve only started to rebuild ours. Can’t do it all in one year
by somebodyquiet on Aug 8, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
and we are moving in the right direction, finally
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
True Chia,it's taken time but,
hopefully we will be serious about drafting OL in the future.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
their committed now
problem is, we are going to HAVE to go CB S or S CB with the first two picks next year imo
CB S G or S CB G first 3 picks
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yes but we will have to commit to drafting OL in the early rounds going forward.
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I know that
but CB S are huge needs next year too, and this S class is really good, really good CB class too
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed we need to fix our CB -S positions in the draft,
we ideally need more picks but how do we get them?,any trade bait on the roster worth a decent pick?.
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
not really
trades in the NFL are so rare now a days
and look at how low the level is for 1st and 2nd round pick trades
I think Jerry is the only owner besides Al Davis to surrender a 1st rd pick for a player in the last 5 years
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't remind me :(
still kills me to think about that dumbass move .
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
I wanted Percy Harvin
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
can you just sit back and imagine this for a second
Miles Austin Dez Bryant
Percy Harvin
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Would we have drafted Dez though?,
maybe we could have gone OL sooner ,instead of waiting till this year.
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
why not?
we would be unstoppable
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
how about
Michael Oher or Clay Matthews? that would have been nice
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
that would have been great but,
Jerry knew better :(
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
In the Roy draft we could have had Oher with the 24th pick....
Imagine him for Colombo last year. The Tyron pick wouldn’t have been such a desperation pick this year. We might have been able to draft a d lineman. Giving up a 3rd in the Roy draft too was terrible. if your an astute gm by now that third round pick would be ready to seriously contribute now.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
that trade was'nt Jerry's finest hour .agreed on that.
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
And ignore the d line ?
Db , dl , ol are in dire need of talent. Like yesterday.
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by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
DL too
but Newman is toast, Scandrick will bounce for starter money, both safeties are on 1 year deals
honestly, weak 34 DE draft next year too
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
If we cut Newman like I think we will next year, I bet Jerry resigns Scandrick.
I can’t see him letting two of our three top corners leave Valley Ranch.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
I think it depends how deep the positions are and who rises to the top.
Leadership is the ability to influence a man to either give his life or take the life of another willingly and with the confidence that what's asked of him is within his ability to do and that his well-being was the first priority of his superior's decision.
I don't think so.
You did a post on the young guys we have at CB. I think we do S,DE, then CB in the 3rd.
by dallasgoesalltheway on Aug 8, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
The Pack didn't allow their o line to get so bad before addressing it.
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by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
couple of years ago it was awful
you don’t remember do you
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
In 2009 they rushed for a 100 fewer yards than Dallas but the average was 4.3 for the Pack and 4.3 for Dallas.
Not that bad imo. And now they have already rebuilt it.
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by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
not then
Farves 2nd to last year there the OL was awful, I dont think it was too good his last year either, same when Rodgers took over
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't the pack give up like 50+ sacks
either last year or the year before?
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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by I am Ironman!!! on Aug 8, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Wonder what GB fans thought of that O line
when Aaron Rogers was getting put on his back at a record pace in 2009.
by AikmanGeneration on Aug 8, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
They fixed it quickly and won the superbowl....To fix a position u have to draft
players in those positions. You can’t keep drafting linebackers. Drafting a true nt has done wonders for their defense. Jus saying you can’t focus on 1 position for years. I don’t knowif was Wade or what saying he needed more linebackers. But when Jerry said Wade knew nfl talent you knew something was really wrong.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
just saying...........we are drafting OL now
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
We could use a true nt too.....
and how about Tramon Williams ? He could walk onto the Cowboys and be hands down the best db on the team.
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by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard the Pats my drop Ron Brace
I would jump on that, 6’3 330
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
we hit on late round picks
Pack just got lucky with Tramon honestly
I really like Tramon too
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade is a moron
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Wade got too comfortable with Rat at nt. Last year Rat was worn down by week 3...
kinda like Bum did to Earl. Wade never thought Dallas needed a big nt. We needed one if any thing to at least give Rat a real backup with ability.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Josh Brent
he is looking even better this year
I said that kid would be a steal
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Brent is a BEAST
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i dont lie about this kind of stuff
but I think I could work in the NFL as a scout
back in 09 I said Ogletree would make the team, people on DC.com laughed at me
last year I said Brent would be a steal, people on DC.com laughed at me
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
not to burst your bubble, but consider the source.
DC.com. Really? They’re clueless. I’m just sayin…
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I know
but they laughed at me, I didnt find BTB until last July man
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I can relate
They laughed at me when I told them Romo would be our QB when he started the year as 3rd or 4th QB
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lol nice
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Compared to many, many others...
This a pretty smart, insightful, knowledgable collection of fans. (I did toss a chair in 97’ when Dallas traded down and lost out on moss…)
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
by Shaymer on Aug 8, 2011 7:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
dont bring that up!
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Garrett
is changing the culture man, just saying wake up and look around
this is a different team that is moving towards a better way of doing things
I shutter when I heard how Wade drafted players, apparently he would see a guy on TV or some tape and be like OHHHH JERRY THIS IS MY GUY I WANT HIM
that is how jason Williams and Brandon Williams were drafted, Wade didnt listen to the scouts
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
the scouts in 09 were not feeling Jason Williams
Id be curious to see who the scouts were pushing for
interesting note, Rob Ryan was asked about Albright in an interview and said LB coach Matt Eberflus recruited him and our scouting department discovered him
also they asked if Alrbight was overshadowed by Herzlich, Rob said well Albright payed DE first off I think the Herzlich kid is a great story but I like my guy better #47
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Chia you know what's funny about Brandon Williams. There were many on here saying how he would
come on this year. Really ? What did they ever see in Brandon Williams ?
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by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
in college he was a beast
i thought he was going to be good in 09, then he tore his ACL or achilles I forget which
ever since then he doesnt have the same burst and speed he used to have
Albright is going to beat him out, Rob Ryan said he loves Alrbight today
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The fact that Jerry admitted the Roy trade was a mistake after he cut him,
gives me hope that he will listen to his HC ,Stephen and the Scouts in future.
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
he should fire himself
seriously
then I would feel great
look at Bob Craft, he is really involved with the football operations, but he isnt the GM
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerry should have fired himself whe Pioli became available.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The Grim Reaper is the only one that will fire Jerry.
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by scotscowboyfan on Aug 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I said that to my mom the other day
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
of course we waited too long
im not arguing that
but we changed our ways, stop harping on the past with that and move on bro
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
That’s why they gave up the most sacks in 2009 (51): http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_SACKED&tabSeq=2&season=2009&role=TM&Submit=Go&archive=true&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=true
Gee, when was it that they drafted Bulaga? Hmm…2010.
They didn’t put any more emphasis on the OL than we did before that:
Packers: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=1800&type=team
Cowboys: http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=1200&type=team
Rabid and luvin' it
Orie Lemon looking better and better, I hope they keep him
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Practice Squad this year, I think
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after what I read today
they might keep 5 ILBs due to Carter not being ready, its between Kenwin Cummings and Orie Lemon
I like Lemons
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell no.
If Carter’s not ready, he’s PUP for 6 weeks. If not ready after that, IR. That way we don’t have to sneak someone through waivers. That’s exactly how we lost Elam in 2006. Parcells loved Elam for his hustle and ST play. He wanted to keep Austin (I think it was Austin) and no way was Austin making it through waivers again after the preseason he’d had, so Parcells cut Elam. He wasn’t on the waiver wire a freaking day…
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he may be PUP
that way Lemon stays
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
you can thank the great Wade Phillips for keeping Courtney Brown
then I remember back in 09 that preseason Brown did something incredibly stupid on the field vs the Vikings
I never saw Wade bitch out a player on tv in my LIFE, but he did that night, next day Brown was cut
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
What do people think of Nagy?
And what about dealing Bennett for something? He is talented but having a 2nd good TE isn’t a luxury we can afford with the other holes.
zero trade value
trade value is down in the NFL look at the recent trades, big names went for like 5th rd picks
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Houck likes Nagy. He's our swing guy in the middle so their not wanting to start him. He's money in the bank
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i havent heard anything on Nagy
im guessing thats a good thing
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
like these fans talking about trading Choice for a 2nd pick need to wake up
Choice is not worth anything more than a 6 or 7, just the way it is
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, we haven't played even one preseason game. It's waaaayyyyyy too soon to trade
We have no idea who’s going to get hurt or be on the final 53. We got our ideas as of today, but shat happens. What if we trade Bennett tomorrow and (God forgive me for even thinking this) Whitten gets hurt and out for season on some fluke play? We’re freakin shat outta luck then my man
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bro W-I-T-T-E-N
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
whatever. W-I-T-T-E-N DON'T pay my bills so give zilch how he spells his name.
ROTFLMAO
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lmfao
sorry
honestly id rather have you call him Whitten than Wittens
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right though
Whitten could be misconstrued as a racist thing
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baaaa hahahahaha
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, if you're gonna talk about a guy getting hurt
I’m glad you’re talking about some guy named Whitten and not our guy.
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If anyone thinks Choice is worth a second they should cancel their fandom card immediately.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
lol
well you should see the twitter pages and questions being asked on the ESPNDallas chat
Choice I love him but he doesnt have trade value, he is a 3rd RB that is injured right now
even healthy he isnt worth more than a 6th
Santonio Holmes Braylon Edwards Antonio Cromartie etc, look what they got traded for, peanuts and those are proven players
heck Crayton was a proven player, 7th rd pick! then he goes on to kill it at SD until he broke his wrist
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I miss Crayton on the field
shoulda got rid of Roy last year
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I will never forgive Crayton for the playoff game vs the gmen.
Regarding cutting Roy the Dallas gm should have cut all the crap he cut this year, last year.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Aug 8, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he was gonna walk in for a TD, damn butterfingers
maybe he was shaving pts lol
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by Archie Barberio on Aug 8, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
well great talk guys im out for a bit
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Ware is OK with Sapp after phone conversation
kind of disappointed with DWare on this one, why give a crap what Sapp thinks?and why waste your breath yaking on the phone with that clown?
Frankly, I always wondered why the coaches won't give Choice a shot
He is the only back we have had that has cranked out 100 yard games consistently when he was a starter. I know it’s a very small sample size, but he toted the rock against PIT and some good defenses.
I’m so sick of seeing Felix Jones tap out when he is winded. I hope this Murray kid beats him out eventually. I really hope they know what they’re doing with these backs. Jones is the perfect 3rd down back. He is dangerous in space and unable to carry a load.
It just seems like whenever Jones and Barber were both hurt with their various maladies…Choice always performed.
I agree
Everyone that wants to trade him now is crazy. I understand we want to get something for him, but what would we get? A 6th round pick? It’s not worth it, Jones has injury concerns and so does Murray. We may need Choice because odds are one of the other two will get hurt.
by Dynamicduo on Aug 8, 2011 6:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Choice can't (or won't) block
He misses his blocking assignments and doesn’t contribute on ST. Agreed he’s a good runner and has performed when called on, but he limits roster flexibilty and can get his QB killed.
That’s why he’s in Garrett’s doghouse, and that’s why I think Miller will be the 3rd back in 2011.
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I wish he would block,
than I wouldn fret everytime, he’s in and we run a pass play, or when FJ rolls over
+1
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Crayton?
Oh don’t you mean T.O? That’s the guy we want!
dude give it up
Dallas is NOT going to bring back TO…might as well bring back Bob Lilly…he would have more of an Impact…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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