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The final game of the preseason is always the most frustrating and generally can be fairly boring. The luster of just seeing the Cowboys on the field again has worn off and now everyone is amped for the actual season to begin. The fact that these final games still cost as much to attend as regular season games is a travesty; fans want to see their star players on the field, not to watch a horde of backup players battle it out for the final 10 spots on the 53-man roster.

For me, it's that final battle that actually makes this game exciting. Personally, I love to see young and unproven players stepping it up on this stage in a final attempt to show their worth. The football itself might not be great, and the way the game is played is not going to be any sort of indicator as to how the season will go, but here is our chance to see some players given the spotlight to see what they can do.

In 2006, Tony Romo was given the ball for the entire game against Minnesota and while he was far from perfect, he proved that he had what it takes to compete at the NFL level. That preseason was Romo's big coming out party and just six games into the season he became the starting quarterback. Now, something like this isn't close to happening this season -- but it's a great example of how this final game should never be considered a throwaway game by hardcore fans.

After the jump, I go down the list of who I'll be looking at tonight. Like any game during the preseason, I'm not looking very closely at schemes or play-calling; I want to see the individuals perform.

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Offensive Line

How will the starting offensive line perform without Kyle Kosier? The veteran guard and the play-caller for the offensive line did not make the trip to Miami and thus will not play tonight. There hasn't been much word on how much the young starters will play tonight, but it's going to be interesting to see how they fare as a unit with perhaps the biggest key component of that line missing. 

We're all excited about the potential of the young and athletic group, but the truth is that without Kosier this is a woefully inexperienced line and they'll be without their leader, the guy who makes all the calls at the line of scrimmage. If history has told us anything, however, is that Kosier is likely to miss at least a bit of time this season with a minor injury and there will be times when this line will have to take the field without the vet. Tonight is the final big test to see how they'll perform as they gear up for a very tough matchup against the New York Jets next Sunday night.

Who wins the final running back spot?

Personally, I think this decision has already been made. Mostly. The Cowboys decided not to bring Tashard Choice along on the trip because of an apparent knee injury, and there is still one final spot up for grabs. Whether the Cowboys go with three or four running backs this season is unknown, but I guarantee you it's all going to depend on how well Philip Tanner performs when given an expanded role on the field.

Felix Jones isn't going to dress for the game tonight and Choice is sitting at home. The Cowboys will give DeMarco Murray some more carries, but he'll be a bit limited as they remain careful not to aggravate his injury. That leaves running backs Tanner, Lonyae Miller and Frank Warren to prove their worth and right now it's Tanner's job to lose. His performance tonight could influence whether the Cowboys stick with four running backs or decide to jettison Choice.

Can I get a fullback, please?

Shaun Chapas has shown some improvement but neither he nor Chris Gronkowski have exactly knocked my socks off this preseason. The Cowboys aren't very impressed either, evidence by the fact that both Jason Pociask and Isaiah Greenhouse have been converted to fullback the past few weeks as well; Pociask actually had one heck of a block on Felix Jones' touchdown run last weekend.

Tonight is the chance for someone to prove that the Cowboys actually need a fullback but with Martellus Bennett's injury, there's no telling how the Cowboys might approach the position. Last season, the loss of John Phillips prompted the Cowboys to keep a fullback and Gronkowski turned infamous for being the man who missed The Block. This year, the Cowboys may decide to roll with four running backs and not stick with a true fullback -- which makes sense, considering the lack of players with an actual fullback on the field anyway.

Defensive Line needs a push...

If you think the Cowboys won't be playing most of the "starters" on the defensive line tonight, you might be a bit delusional. Kenyon Coleman, Jay Ratliff  and Marcus Spears might not see much action -- if at all -- but the rest of the line will get plenty of playing time tonight. This is Igor Olshansky's final shot at making this team and there's a good chance he's gone no matter what happens.

Josh Brent needs to prove he's capable of providing a solid anchor at NT. He has secured the backup spot behind Ratliff but needs to show he's capable of more playing time during games. The Cowboys will be rotating linemen throughout games, so it's going to be very important to see what Brent, Jason Hatcher, Sean Lissemore and company can do when given extended playing time.

Is this Stephen McGee's final shot?

This is McGee's third season in the NFL. At this point, Tony Romo was starting to emerge a bit and other quarterbacks around the NFL start to show their true abilities their third season as well. It's been incredible to watch his progression since being drafted in 2009, but I'm still not convinced that McGee has what it takes to be a full time quarterback in the NFL. 

He's pushing to secure the backup spot behind Tony Romo and while I don't think he's ever going to push Romo for playing time -- ever -- I need to know that the Cowboys have a backup who can fill in for a few games if needed and actually be successful against at team that isn't mailing it in during the final game of the season.

McGee can't be "ok" tonight for me to be impressed; he needs to be dominant, he needs to have complete control over the field and show that he's capable of playing in the NFL by taking over a game played mostly by guys who won't have a chance at making the team next week.

What will you be looking for tonight?

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It'll be interesting to see if Dwayne Harris does anything in this game

Its weird they haven’t really used him the past two games (if at all). Did they see enough of him in just one game? If so, why isn’t that the same case with Tanner? They obviously keep playing him.

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by Specific on Sep 1, 2011 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Rucker

With Bennet’s injury he may have a shot, be interested to see what he can do tonight

Got five, deperately seeking six!

by Earn your star on Sep 1, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I really like what I have seen from Rucker

But keeping 4 TEs is only something the Pats would do HAHA.
Yeah, Bennett injury becomes a huge variable now

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ill be looking at one thing.. MCGEE

What he showed last year and so far I like it alot. Not saying to be a franchise QB or anything but I want to stop carrying 3 QBs. Its so pointless. I want McGee to show enough so JG can cut Kitna and carry another RB, DB, WR, or even K.

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Totally agree

Got five, deperately seeking six!

by Earn your star on Sep 1, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

marked

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Marked

It’s permanent too, so you better be right.

I see McGee being a pretty good QB in the league, but I don’t see in him what I saw in Romo. I just knew something great was there with Romo.. I am still hopeful with McGee, however.

by Dezstroyer88 on Sep 1, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree OCC

I am with Bigham…. there is no point in having 3 QB’s….McGee needs to claim that #2 spot…if that happens we can drop Kitna (thus saving an extra couple million not to mention the roster spot….

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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by I am Ironman!!! on Sep 1, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's shown me enough to go with 2

Kitna could be valuable trade bait. Like him, but let’s save the roster spot for some young kid with upside at another position.

by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 1, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I absolutely LOVE seeing a front-page guy go out on a limb with a prediction like this

… here’s hoping you’re right, OCC … but either way, I admire the post!

I can't wait to crush the J-E-T-S JetsJetsJets!!! :)

by DalaiLuke on Sep 1, 2011 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kitna

Would he have any trade value?

Got five, deperately seeking six!

by Earn your star on Sep 1, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

probably not right now

I think come week 6 or 7, I think one QB will be going down for significant time and might be looking for a vet to come in.

Teams I see interested would be those with veteran guys and no real backup options like ARI, IND, and BAL, possibly SEA.

screw you and your logic -definitely not me

by fuji1232 on Sep 1, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

trade deadline is week 6

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

49ers would start him.

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by CowboyMan on Sep 1, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

3rd and 4th WR

are way open for grabs. The Tree hasn’t impressed me one bit. Holley has improved his pass catching skills, Harris shined one game but hasn’t been targeted since. Manny is up and down. Radway is a project worth sneaking on practice squad. WR is one spot we are really thin at. Out of everybody not named Bryant and Austin, have a whole career 10 receptions in an actual NFL game.

by textaz03 on Sep 1, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Ogletree may lose his job tonight…or may solidify his spot. At this point, I think I would prefer the upside of Holley and Manny who with fewer opportunities than Ogletree have done more so far in the preseason. Ogletree needs to have a good game to show he is worth keeping.

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ogletree

It just seems he doesn’t really want to work to get better, where as Holley is working harder than almost anyone. Holley just seems like a RKG.

by indyboysfan on Sep 1, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holley and Johnson

doesn’t have any upside as a WR. Sure, they’ve made some plays here and there in a couple of games but both of these guys have been around for a couple of years and hasn’t done anything. Radway and Harris are the guys with the upside and both should be kept over Holley and Johnson.

by 212CowboyNation on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto

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by CowboyMan on Sep 1, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, the Tree

I actually remember seeing something that makes me think he sticks,,,, The TD pass that wasn’t because he didn’t get his foot down was something not many have talked about,, He beat the starting corner deep,,, None of the other wideouts except Radnor posses this kind of speed.

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't tell with him

He has a lot of explosiveness and speed, but where is he?? Why doesn’t he show up much? I just don’t get it with him.

by Dezstroyer88 on Sep 1, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

My theory

I think its the 2nd play last week where Romo fakes a streetch left and roles out wide,, Ogletree had beaten the corner to the inside and was wide open for 15 yards right in front of Romo,, Romos duped the pass off to Witten for what should have been no gain, Romo saw him but dumped down anyway,,,, the team is working on things this case the guard had pulled almost like a screen to Witten,,, Instead of throwing to Ogletree Romo and Witten and the Guard were working on a quasi screen that only this line could have pulled off

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, It was to see the guard

It was like a roll out screen to the tight end in the flat,,,, I think the team was looking at the guard not Ogletree,, he was wide open and could have gotten several more yards before anyone could have gotten to him,

Just for the record the guard did not make the play,

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually the theory makes a lot sense

just hadn’t thought of them doing that.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Sep 1, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice observation

Still though, he’s been relatively quiet throughout TC and the preseason. If we’re really searching for a #3 WR, you’d think those guys would be showing things.. I’m not overly worried about our #3 since our passing game should be pretty damn good this year, still it would be reassuring to see someone step up. Injuries happen all the time and your #3 could very easily become your #2.

by Dezstroyer88 on Sep 1, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is very true

I think the staff was dissappointed that Tree came in behind in his knowldge of the playbook,,,

It has come to my attention the coaching staff has added another tier to the rout trees, Including tripple moves and deeper routs,, tht tells me they have faith the line will hold, and they planon getting down the field,,, that third guy is going to be fast,,,

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish

We could have gotten Mark Clayton…he could have been a steal. Now he re-signed with the Rams. Hopefully someone shows up in cuts we can grab. Ogletree is not it, he basically got handed the 3rd WR spot and hasn’t impressed me much at all.

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by 9to88 on Sep 1, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

honestly

Ogletree just doesn’t look hungry

Clayton got a one year deal too, nice signing

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Afraid I agree about the Tree

This is why I was excited when I saw Tate may become available. He may need work, but he’s worth a look IMO.

by Dezstroyer88 on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

ouch,

“. Tate’s real-life value has been lessened by the NFL’s new kickoff rules, and he’s never added much as a wide receiver.”

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brandon Tate tore up his knee at UNC. He is a great return guy but....

it just hasn’t worked out for him in the wr department.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tate was one of my pet-cats coming out of Carolina

Hope that didn’t seal his fate

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by DalaiLuke on Sep 1, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brandstater vs. McGee

McGee has been better at making quicker reads and throws, though still has some issues. I haven’t seen much of Brandstater, but one attempt vs. Vikings was a beautiful touch pass.
Could get interesting. I too think this is McGee’s make or break shot

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

After that Denver game I was so high on StephenI almost bought a custom #7 McGee Jersey...

Since then I’ve calmed down… the kid has shows incredible poise under pressure and has led several comebacks… but I still don’t see him making the reads he needs to and getting the ball out quickly where it needs to be. The improvement is incredible over the past few years though.

I still love me some McGee and hope he shows us something great tonight.

by DonMoosavi on Sep 1, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Certainly has made clear signs of improvement, and has both good mobility and arm strength, good potential, but…

Personally, I think he is 3rd QB again and his big fight will be next season when Kitna is gone. I don’t think he has/will do enough to take Kitna’s spot this season.

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kitna

Isn’ t he signed until the end of next year?

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think ghat is correct

But I also think he won’t play out his contract and will be released after this season, at which point he will be 39

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 1:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice :-)

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by BigBad Joe on Sep 1, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

who the heck is gonna kick?

We got 75 kickers on the roster. Who will Garrett have kick and why?

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by eightball on Sep 1, 2011 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Speaking of kickers

Did you know Nick Folk got the starting nod with the jets.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was

one of the better kickers last year in the league

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by textaz03 on Sep 1, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had not paid any attention

To the guy once we dropped him.

Good for him.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad Move

We should have put him on the PUP or IR list when he was with us instead of straight up cutting him. He was still recovering from injury, so it makes total sense he was struggling. But that was then…

by niceville56 on Sep 1, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

i don't get the kickers are a dime a dozen thing

If any franchise would have figured out that this is non sense it would be us

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its the atmosphere

Somehow the organization is doing it to the kickers. It has to be the answer if we’ve gone so long without a decent one, and some move on to do just fine.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brandon

Wasn’t Romo’s game against the Raiders?

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by Far Rider on Sep 1, 2011 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

no, not in 2006

His game against the Raiders occurred in 2004, his second year.

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by Terry on Sep 1, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Terry

I couldn’t remember what team it was, only I was sure it wasn’t Minny.

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by Far Rider on Sep 1, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope...2006 he played full games vs Seattle and Minnesota

30 of 45, 349 yards against Minny.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 1, 2011 12:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah, he was brilliant in those games

Parcells should have had the balls to start the season with him

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by Terry on Sep 1, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats how bad Bledsoe was..

I bet it damn near gave Bill an aneurysm to have to start Romo.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 1, 2011 12:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bill had a deal with the veterans

you had to have a four game skid to lose your job

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

it went against his formula

30 college starts 65 percent completion percentage some high score on the wonderlic

I forget the exact formula he uses

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

E Ill

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

for Parcells formula yeah

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

but I dont think he fit Parcells criteria

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

make a play

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

what he means is

Parcells had criteria for drafting a QB

65% completion rate in college,
30 college starts, had to be a winner
and come from a major program

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

30 college starts at qb is almost unheard of. If a qb is good they go pro.

Bill again showed his stubborness by selecting an ot with the first pick instead of Matt Ryan.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

and you have to score at least a certain # on the Wonderlic

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think its 4 years, I forget the exact number

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then he would love Matt Barkley and Andrew Luck....

and Nick Foles after this college season is over.

 Bill was terrible at drafting o linemen. I never saw the genius of Bill. By the time he got to Dallas the game was passing him by.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

he wasnt perfect, neither was Wade

but at this point looking back, Parcells was a way better at bringing in talent than Wade

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I put Wade this_ much over Campo in regards to talent.

Wade was a joke with his trying turn someone into another position.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ball

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ball, Spencer, Jason Williams, Akwasi, Spencer

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brandon Williams, Buehler lol

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

DE in college

I still think Spencer is a 43 DE

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is my main problem with the 34

you always have to convert guys, unlike a 43
its harder to find talent for a 34
if you dont have the right personnel, the 34 is a disaster

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

not any more,

there a more and more college teams running the 3-4

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol not really, not many teams run a 3-4 in college

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats why 34 personnel in the draft are always at a premium

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the issue with AOA

Is we should give him a shot at playing CB. With Thomas out we could use it and trying to find a natural safety through waivers.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at the 09 draft. We drafted a safety he wanted ot make a lb. We drafted an olb in Jason Williams he wanted to make an ilb.

AOA played primarily at cb in college. Why do u screw around with that stuff ?

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

lets not discuss 2009

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

2009?

that first round was loaded, 2nd round was talented too

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

scouts that year said

blue chip players were not 10 deep and 1st round talent was 19 deep, 2nd round talent barley got out of the 1st round

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alex Mack, Percy Harvin, Michael Oher, Vontae Davis, Clay Matthews, Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt,

take your pick

thats who we could have instead of Roy

then the 2nd round and 3rd round there were some real good players we passed on

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

This year is looking better. Looking forward to next year.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oher is a good rt not as good at lt.

I would have taken him tho to replace Marc. Davis is a real real good vb. He could have replaced Newman the injury machine.

Mack is solid. Harvin is a friggin weapon

No way they would have taken Clay.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

just saying

if we had a regular draft in 2009, this team would have a lot of the depth questions answered, plus have a 1st rd talent somewhere on the roster

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harvin and Britt drugs, nono for Jerry

Clay Mathews is on roids and a complete shock, The scouting report on Smith I read said Smith is more NFL ready than Oher right now and he was not NFL ready,

I dont know the story on Davis and Nicks, except we were loaded at WR

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

Percy Harvin in the slot would be a really bad idea for this team

not

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jerry was never going to draft harvin

He got busted for pot like half a dozen times in Florida,,,, Jerry has made it known they do not draft players with drug histories

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure looks like he cleaned up his act to me

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im with your chia

but that draft is used to blame current personnel issues much to frequently, IMO

In '08,"I want Dez! I want Dez!" In '10,"WE DRAFTD DEZ!!! WE DRAFTED DEZ!!! HOLY S#!* WE GOT DEZ!"

by codydoser on Sep 1, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

its killing our depth

when you have a draft like that it holds your team back

plenty of people are saying this, its not just me

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

We drafted 4 linebackers that draft....

and then had to use second round picks each of the last 2 drafts. That is what kills a draft. Wasting picks.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasting picks and the whole 2009

if we had a normal draft and had our 1st, depth wouldn’t be a problem right now

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda my point

the second half of your comment anyway. I’m not saying that draft didnt hurt us, just not as drastically as most fans will claim. Just my two cents :)

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by codydoser on Sep 1, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally disagree. It did not add to the team

or the infusion of youth that teams should be looking for.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to be proved wrong

I bet few if any teams came out of that draft winners,,,, scouts were touting it as the worst draft class they had ever seen

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think a bunch of teams did well

especially the Steelers

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Packers

I loved the Packers draft that year

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Giants Eagles

both upgraded that draft

especially McCoy at pick 53 and Maclin that late

if we could have hit on 2 picks like that 1st and 2nd round in 09, things would be a lot brighter right now

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta disagree, respectfully of course

when you have a draft like we did in 2009, it sets you back, big time

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough :)

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by codydoser on Sep 1, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

2009 is not all to blame

The way we’ve been drafting before this year is a wonder. Our saving grace though are finding football sized gems in the UDFA department.

If not for that we’d look like the lions when they were 1-16.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

^ this

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

you cant place blame entirely on one thing obviously

but look around the roster, we have obvious depth issues, 2009 would be the reason why

when you have 12 draft picks and only 2 make the team, thats a problem

I am really going to have to do a fanpost with statistics on it to open eyes I guess

but its going to hurt some feelings, I know I am butthurt about Roy Williams trade losing out on major talent

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

To add salt to the wound

Jerry could have cut him last year with no ramifications.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

kinda my point

the second half of your comment anyway. I’m not saying that draft didnt hurt us, just not as drastically as most fans will claim. Just my two cents :)

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by codydoser on Sep 1, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

stupid computer double commenting... >.<

In '08,"I want Dez! I want Dez!" In '10,"WE DRAFTD DEZ!!! WE DRAFTED DEZ!!! HOLY S#!* WE GOT DEZ!"

by codydoser on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I try not to comment when its glitching like that…should be good now

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by codydoser on Sep 1, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

2009 is killing this team depth wise

I wanted to do a fanpost but it hurts me too much to write one about how that draft is really hurting us

Victor Butler and John Phillips will be the only remaining players out of that draft, which had 12 picks I believe

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

depends on the severity....

if they are really bad u would call it a jerry….then a campo, then a wade

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I respect Campo so I wont bash him

he was just put in a bad position

he is old and the game is passing him by but I just think he is a great dude

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats great

We need someone who can coach the secondary though so Rob doesn’t have to spend so much time on it. I’ve now spent the last 24hrs going over Campo information I can find. Left to his own device he’s not good at all, put into an organized effort though he’s a decent human being. He did well teaming up with the DC in Jacksonville, he did ok with Butch in Cleveland. Of course he did better with the Cowboys and Jimmy

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

no I agree

Campo was going to be replaced by the Steelers or Ravens guy we wanted to hire I forget his name

we tried to replace Campo but our options went elsewhere

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

“I need to know that the Cowboys have a backup who can fill in for a few games if needed and actually be successful against a team that isn’t mailing it in.”

So Kitna doesn’t get any credit for going 4-3 as the starter with Garrett as HC? The offense scored 26.7 pts/g and Kitna had an 88 quarterback rating, so it’s not like those loses were due to the quarterback play.

Now if you want to know if McGee can be the backup who can fill in for a few games, fair enough (and in my opinion he can’t). But to answer your question, the Cowboys DO have a successful backup.

by niceville56 on Sep 1, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes but Kitna's this year and thats it

If Romo goes down, its Kitna and there’s no question he can do it. There’s no NEED to question whether he’s the guy as far as backing up Romo. He means the future, whether McGee can step in as the #2 and play adequately enough

by DonMoosavi on Sep 1, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay

Then I think you should have clarified that. I have little to no faith in McGee so I think Kitna’s place on the team is very important, especially as far as teaching the young QBs (be they McGee, Brandster, or anyone else we bring in this year or next).

by niceville56 on Sep 1, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mentoring is over rated

For some reason people think anyone can teach. Not all QB’s can teach their craft and to e honest I’d rather leave it to the coach.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Kitna Can

Not everyone might be able to coach, but I specifically remember Kitna being perfectly willing to help out and doing a good job at it.

by niceville56 on Sep 1, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen that

During the Bronco game when they showed the side lines I saw Garrett, McGee, and Romo but never saw Kitna.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm talking in reference to McGee.

Because carrying three quarterbacks is ridiculous.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 1, 2011 12:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Totally agree with you on that one. We need to keep the most reliable one. I hope that whoever it is, I don’t gasp like I did the past couple of seasons every time we attempt a FG!

by scottdware on Sep 1, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

"past couple of seasons "

where have you been for the last decade?

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Folk was always horrible

we had a solution and gave up on him too quickly … how quickly people forget

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by DalaiLuke on Sep 1, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

SORRY ... Folk WAS NOT always horrible

… obviously :)

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by DalaiLuke on Sep 1, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah he wasn't fully recovered from his injury...

Though he still cant kickoff…

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by thebigham on Sep 2, 2011 6:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

not if they do different jobs

If you have the best KO guy why not keep him

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

It cost us a spot

Where we can develop more players not just a kicker.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh yea?

cut kitna bam there you go. We aren’t developing him and McGee can do just the same

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Special Teams

And Buehler can play special teams other than just KOs. I don’t see why he couldn’t play both ways on punts and KO returns.

by niceville56 on Sep 1, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes saying as a gunner type

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not as the punter

No, not to replace McBriar. McBriar’s one of the best punter in the leagues. I mean blocking on punts.

by niceville56 on Sep 1, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buehler is a freak of an athlete not just for a kicker

Fast or as fast as our safteys, strong as our inside linebackers

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saves a Spot

It adds to Buehler’s value. If you’re planning on keeping someone like Holley just for his special teams play without expecting him to do much of anything receiving, you might as well keep Buehler who excels at one facet of special teams and can play others.

Plus, combined with Choice you get almost one whole player out of the two spots. =)

by niceville56 on Sep 1, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saves a spot how?

A kicker is already on special teams and we use backups for the ST’s anyways. Sorry I mean absolutely no disrespect but I think this is the perfect example of what our issue is. We like to keep “special” guys and create places for them and not keep functional guys that fill a roll in the team.

Taking a guy who normally plays ST’s and putting him on another position of ST’s isn’t adding value. Holley can at least be a receiver. We need to stop keeping players cause they are “freak athletic” when we have so many other needs.

Plus, combined with Choice you get almost one whole player out of the two spots. =)

Not to worried about that, Choice won’t make the team (if he does it won’t be for long).

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

not keep functional guys that fill a roll in the team.

Umm beuhlers roll is Touchbacks thats more than the last WR or DB will do. Plus Beuhler could take that guys spot if they wanted on punts or kick returns.

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you been a fan a while...

We’ve used both our last place WR’s and DB’s the last couple of years. Its been pretty gruesome. Plus Beuhler doesn’t guarantee you a touchback. Our guys still have to get down field and do their jobs in order to get decent field position.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No he pretty much does

He can boom it 95% of the time in their. Yes I have.. when was the last time I saw even tree in a game? Or AOA?

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tree?

The end of last year.

AOA I want gone.

Buehlers career stats so far:

  Kickoffs161 AVG 66.9 Touchbacks51 Returned 102 Avg position 22.7

He can boom it 95% of the time in their

Doesn’t mean its a touchback.

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by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was before the move...

He was kicking them higher then he had to and to allow for coverage guys.. he has the leg to boom it out the endzone 95% of the time.

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

... his first year ...

One more time

When they kicked off from the 35 Beuhler has so much leg he could kick it high and far which allowed for 51 touchbacks. He kicked it high because the coverage unit needed time to get down there. He kicked it high because from that distance the returned could possibly still take it out

Now it has been moved up 5 yards he doesn’t have to worry about kicking it so high as its almost certain he can kick it through the uprights 9.5/10

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finding an excuse?

Last years game logs:

http://www.nfl.com/player/davidbuehler/71231/gamelogs?season=2010

His rookie year:

http://www.nfl.com/player/davidbuehler/71231/gamelogs?season=2009

What you guys feel about the guy and what is there are two different things. He was only 30% touchback rate before simply moving it forward 5 yards is not going to make it 90%. Its an assumption, or gimmic in order to justify keeping the guy.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still supporting

AOA,
To much athletic ability to let go so quickly

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe if it wasn't Campo

We’d see more from him right now?

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

No he's still a rookie

injury last year and no training camp this year,

Hasn’t gotten a fair shake yet

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is not a rookie

He was active for 7 games last year. Should help him with something as far as exp goes. Might not be much but its still more then what the UDFA’s have gotten this year.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

He played special teams

AOA was drafted as a project player, he needs the extra work to catch up to start with but has the physical ability to turn into the Miles Ausitn of Safeties, He’s athletic enough to play corner in the NFL, big and dtrong enough to play safety,,, I’m willing to wait and see, his upside is twice of the other guys that are being tossed around

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Choice will make it through the final cuts.

This will allow other teams to look over the the final cuts list and see what’s available at rb. Then I believe Choice’s trade value increases.

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by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah the 6wr or 7db barely affects the game

Atleast Beuhler will be booting the ball after every score direclty affecting field position

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

bad news

Orie Lemon, hamstring injury, Josh Thomas hamstring injury

both likely out tonight which blows

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

blows

Orie I knew about, Thomas I didn’t. I wonder what they’ll do with him if it persists.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cant find it anywhere I was reading Archers roster projection and he mentioned it

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thomas

Can we stick him on PUP?

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

PUP

means they haven’t played yet…

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by Rat-Pack on Sep 1, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dooooh

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 1:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I really hope they don't play Cummings then alot

With James and Brooking deteriorating and Lee’s injury history, that spot is going to get more playing time then we like…

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by Rat-Pack on Sep 1, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know about you guys

but what an affirming front pager! There IS an afterlife! And it has blogging in it! COWBOYS BLOGGING!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!

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by dunkman on Sep 1, 2011 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

You know

The first time I read your name I thought it said:

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by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, really it's all pretty much the same

BTW, no resurrection for Fernie yet since her cranial combustion. I’m sorta scared she went to the other place

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by dunkman on Sep 1, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Via the Landry Hat... I've never heard this before and am interested if you guys agree:

“My answer would be that this crop of Cowboys veterans have never taken well to absorbing complicated schemes. Bill Parcells ran a remedial version of his 3-4. Wade Phillips was never able to fully implement his defensive scheme but he did have success playing a base defense and relying on the talent on the defensive side of the ball. Now enter Ryan who has as much spit and vinegar as his more successful kin, but I don’t believe he has players with the intellect of those on the Eagles, Bears, Ravens, and Jets. "

by DonMoosavi on Sep 1, 2011 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Thats why we drafted Lee, his football IQ

But yea in general i have to agree for the last half decade we’ve been “to dumb to win”

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bollocks

Wade’s defense relied on his players winning one-on-one matchups. Scheme did not play much of a role in Wade’s gameplans. That’s why he was and is so obsessed with physical players.

Look at what he said about the Texans’ Mario Williams two days ago:

“I don’t know if you saw it during the game, but he jumped over a back. I mean, (Hall of Fame linebacker) Rickey Jackson could do that, but I haven’t had many, especially at 280 pounds, that have that kind of athletic ability. That fired me up as much as anything. He can do those things, and if you can do those things, you can play.”

For Wade, “athletic ability = can play”. That’s why he gifted us with Jason Williams. And, I’m afraid to say it, perhaps AOA as well.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 1, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

3-4

The more I learn about it the more I want to cry. We’ve won games, divisions, and a playoff game but I’m wondering how far we can go with it.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

How far can we get

not how far can other teams get using the 3-4. We have years where we are lights out but its normally followed up with suckage years right after. We aren’t consistent.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steelers have been good for a while,

Packers are going to be good for a while,

We can get to and win the super bowl,

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

so we are consistently inconsistent?.

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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just about

The only consistency we excel at.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I told you I agreed with you

But watching the games again Ratliff is doing really good,,, He’s our best lineman and its not even close, disclaimer (have not watched Spears yet)

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

this may be blasphemy but I would take Raji over Ratliff

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a heartbeat.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too,

Ratliff is small but i swear he’s doing extremly well at nose,,, its uncanny

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ive watched the games over too

he looks great at times, but there are times where he just gets tossed around and you can tell it effects the whole DL

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is

Rob runs very little base 3-4, hardly any two gap responsibilties and that is mostly what weve seen all pre season,,

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

there was a lot of base 34 but no blitzes

I think he is saving that

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully thats the truth.

Personally I’d love to have what the Lions have on their front line. Thats about the best part of their team.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bollocks OCC?, is this a tribute to the Sex Pistols?

Never Mind…..
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by scotscowboyfan on Sep 1, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I swear if I hear Wade compare someone to Ricky Jackson one more time

everyone reminds him of Rickey Jackson, enough already Wade we GET IT

he said Spencer was Jackson too

sad, but Wade killed the draft this year getting good defensive talent, I bet the Texans D is going to be good, which kills me to say

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

he wasn't a good DC last year

and he was never a good DC when it counted, his game plans in big games stunk defensively

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't chalk it up to his Xs and Os

I think he (1) couldn’t handle both jobs (2) brought in guys without much thought twoard their mental and emotional make-up as OCC points out (so soome were WKGs) and (3) they quit on him, so there wasn’t much there to coordinate.

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by dunkman on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also have beef with this

Garrett was friends with Capers, Jerry wanted to bring Capers in, Wade defended his boy Brian Stewart

we could have had Capers as well

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 1, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some coaches dumb down playbooks

Others teach and demand accountability. I don’t buy that our players aren’t smart enough to understand a compkex defense. Especially since Week 1 preseason game was the least vanilla and after a lockout the team did not seem to struggle too much.
But I guess we will get the proof this year when we see how quickly Ryan opens up his playbook and how much organized chaos we will see in 2011.

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 2:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Agreed … and agree with Dunk above that these guys quit on Wade last year.

Here’s hoping Ryan WILL open his playbook early and often.

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by DalaiLuke on Sep 1, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we really expect McGee to be dominant?

I dont think thats really fair to expect that. We have to take into consideration who he is playing with. Most of the guys he will be playing with will not make an NFL roster. Personally I take that into consideration. I think he has improved leaps and bounds from even the 1st preseason game this year.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Sep 1, 2011 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he can do everything kitna can do

As far as dominance thats pretty much dependent on the team.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think McGee can read a defense, diagnose the coverage, and pull the trigger anywhere near as well or as fast as Kitna…yet

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 2:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have to disagree in this pre season

McGee has been unloading without even seeing who hes unloading to, he just knows the where to throw the ball,,

Once the real bullets start firing, well thats a different stroy but he has come a loooooong way this year

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes also playing against crappy competition

So he should be a man among Boys like Romo was. If he only completes 5 passes because his WR dropped perfect balls then of course the coaches will see that

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you use a different figure of speech?

Nothing against homosexuality but I’d hate to see Austin come out of the closet.

by UnitedStateOfTX on Sep 1, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

All I can think of is the South Park "Scientology" episode

… with John Travolta and Tom Cruise coming out of the closet :)

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by DalaiLuke on Sep 1, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the final preseason game of 2006 against Minnesota.

He threw for 349 yards, while throwing to Sam Hurd and Jamaica Rector.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope. He was hurt that game.

S. Hurd 6 110 18.3 0 33
J. Rector 8 93 11.6 0 30
T. Copper 3 63 21.0 0 32
J. Witten 3 39 13.0 0 21
P. Crayton 4 35 8.8 0 12
J. Jones 3 27 9.0 0 16
T. Thompson 4 16 4.0 1 5
T. Glenn 2 13 6.5 0 7
A. Fasano 1 9 9.0 0 9
M. Barber III 4 7 1.8 0 7
T. Owens 1 6 6.0 0 6
Team 39 418 10.7 1 33

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 1, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

all im saying is that he looks better

this year against crappy competition than he did last year agains crappy competition.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Sep 1, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He needs to look like a veteran playing against a bunch of backups.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 1, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

tonight? I want to see Igor dismissed by Colombo lol...

seriously, I m going to watch battle for 3rd RB spot, OL performance, LB backups and Barry Church rollin

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by orli on Sep 1, 2011 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

McGee

There have been worse QB’s, who have done more…Dilfer, Delhomme, Alex Smith are worse than McGee IMO…I see as McGee as a guy who won’t lose the game by himself, but he won’t win many by himself. I know he had those 2 magical drives against the Cards and Eagles, but what did he do a majority of the game?…Alot of drives ending in punts.

Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!

by 9to88 on Sep 1, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

was that him or just the shape of the team?

Like you said with McGee we won’t lose the game because of him.. and hes showed he can lead a GW drive

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey cowboys fans, I have a quick question

How good is your D-line, our O-line is our biggest weakness, and I would like to see how well they perform.

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by AnishB15 on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

yeah

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by AnishB15 on Sep 1, 2011 2:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Eh it depends on the motivation

We balance between suckage and average depending on what combination of players they put in. Tonight should be interesting to say the least.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sparano still believes Colombo is starting tackle?

I read how poor is your OL and it starting with Colombos poor blocking….we know really good how bad is this guy after last season…

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by orli on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, colombo is still starting

But most of us hope Murtha will beat him out when Jake Long comes back from injury. Colombo has played horrible this preseason.

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by AnishB15 on Sep 1, 2011 2:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

hes healthy now

And he’s still playing like crap for us.

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by AnishB15 on Sep 1, 2011 2:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

since Sparano will be canned after this yr

I would like to see him back in Dallas as the OC or some kind of coaching position

by dcsince77 on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well...

We have some questions of our own as to how good they are. Some will say all but Ratliff are average at best, others will say even he has slowed down a bit.
Personally, I think they are a bit above average. However, I do like our young depth so don’t feel too angry if guys like Brent and Lissemore cause some havoc tonight since backups will play most of the night.
Many Cowboys fans will be looking to see if our front 7 can stop the run.
The challenge for you oline against our 3-4 def will be diagnosing where the pressure is coming from and adjusting accordingly.

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

alright

Let’s see how it goes, our O-line sucked last week against the bucs, but they were ok against the panthers, we’ll see. Want to wish you guys the best

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by AnishB15 on Sep 1, 2011 2:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Bucs have some good talent on the d line. Young too.

They will have a very good d line. I like that they play a 4-3 and allow their d lineman to attack.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Cleveland

Didn’t look to bad and they just switched back to a 4-3

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know you like the 4-3

We run the 3-4 in theory, but with Rob as pointed out cowboysnation.com Rob does not run just a vanilla 3-4,,,, He will line LBERS up as DE’, atand everyone up but the NT, have four or five down linemen,,, It is just a 3-4 in theroy, Robs defenses are 2-5 to 5-3

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

As of right now it hasn't worked. So u give it a full season and if it continues to fail then what ?

Keep drafting for the 3-4 ? When is enough , enough ? Keep doing the same thing and expecting things to change……..you know the rest.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Sep 1, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

as of right now?

what are you talking about? as of right now have you seen a 2-5 or a 5-2? Rob ran them last year,

plus the "bear defense is based on “bringing one more than they can block” that gets you beat and gives up yards, but it gets turnovers,,,, this team will score just get turnovers and the rest is gravy

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

IDK

I don’t see why we can’t float between a 4-3 and 3-4 anyway. We seem to better with corners that aren’t lock down types in the 90’s lol.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

An Early Plea

I believe it was O.C.C. who provided us with a link to the last game which was not televised. I am in Calif. Is it possible
to repeat that much appreciated and magnanimous gesture?

by stubabe on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

If I stay up tonight

If not, somebody else is sure to have a working link

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Link for game

Anyone have a link for the game tonight

by cowboysfan1971 on Sep 1, 2011 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Guy look up

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by thebigham on Sep 1, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I HATE the new KO rule. We had a decided advantage with Buehler kicking off.

That advantage was taken away. Whts next, DBA have to wear clown shoes.

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by CowboyMan on Sep 1, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Cause

you don’t accept what others are telling you. So how do you expect for others to listen? NM doesn’t matter. Buehler’s advantage is an assumption, one of which doesn’t show.

by Final Frame on Sep 1, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buehler was asked to loft and angle kick offs last season...it didn't work well.

But you must consider the following.

In 2009, teams facing the Cowboys had an average starting field position of the 22.8 yard line, second best among NFL teams, and kicker David Buehler led the league with 29 touchbacks.
This (2010) season, the Cowboys have been noticeably less adept in matters of field position. With opponents averaging a starting field position of the 26.7 yard line, the team ranks 29th in the league in terms of opponents’ field position following a kickoff. Buehler has just three touchbacks on the year, which may be a result of his doubling as the team’s place kicker.
The Cowboys’ coverage on kickoffs is certainly one of the reasons for their struggles with field position in 2010. Dallas has allowed five returns of more than 30 yards this season, and, last week, a 73-yard return and a penalty gave the Tennessee Titans a field that measured all of five yards.

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by Kegbearer on Sep 1, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's next, DBs have to wear clown shoes.

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