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Playing the Role of HEROmo

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he’ro: a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

Putting on a performance nothing short of heroic, Tony Romo led the Dallas Cowboys to a fantastic comeback win against the San Francisco 49ers yesterday. The publicly lamented "Romistake" never reared its ugly head yesterday. Instead, he kept his cool-headed Dr. Jekyll on the field, instead of Mr. Hyde, despite constant harassment and while suffering a significant rib injury in the process.

Truth be told, Dallas was on a collision course with an 0-2 start, having been thwarted (for the second time in 2 weeks) on a drive inside the 5-yard line and coming away with no points, this time on the game's first offensive possession. The momentum shift was huge as the Cowboys proceeded to sleepwalk their way through the next few drives as though they had perfected the 3-and-out in practice. That allowed the 49ers to take control. With a run-heavy, play action passing game, the 49ers were opportunistic and were leading by 10 in the 4th quarter and facing the willing, but only semi-able, backup QB Jon Kitna.

But in what appeared to be Dallas' darkest hour, in came the White Knight. With the #9 emblazoned on his chest like Superman's ‘S', the fates called on Tony Romo, cracked rib and all, to save the day. He proceeded to lead the offense through a scintillating resurgence, ultimately finding a way to defeat their foes in overtime on the strength of Dan Bailey's FG. Like all epic novels, some have happy endings and some do not. Yesterday, Tony Romo made damned sure this one would not end badly.

Star-divide

On balance, this isn't going to be considered redemption for his well-publicized gaffes in the Jets game or any other big game loss he has quarterbacked. Instead, it seems like this is what we're going to get with Romo as his playing career continues. Some days, he's going to bring a smile to your face and make you believe, as I do, that he can lead the Cowboys to a victory on any Sunday at any venue against (almost) any team. On the other hand, there will be those Monday mornings, and maybe too many of them for the fans, where you just shake your head and swear you're done with him and ready for Dallas to draft Landry Jones. Okay, I picked him just because of the irony that comes to mind from his name.

Yes, Romo is like that girlfriend that is just sooooooooooo hot. She's rock-solid gorgeous and all of your buddies call you names behind your back, swearing she's way too hot for you, that you're way out of your league. You laugh it off, but then, you realize she has that fatal flaw. Maybe she gets angry when she drinks. Maybe she snores really loudly. Maybe, just maybe, she puts on your vintage Roger Staubach jersey and wears it around the house, allowing it to get stained and without showing proper respect for it. Yeah, that happened to me and Cindy, if you're reading this, I don't regret anything I said because not ALL make-up comes out in the laundry!!!! Sorry. Old wounds and all that. Where was I? Oh yeah. You probably know, deep down, that she's not the one you're going to marry and have a family with, but man, it's so hard to give up on the relationship because there are those nights when...well, you know. So, part of you wants to break up with her. But another part of you says you don't have a chick waiting in the wings waiting for you to break up and, even if you do, she just doesn't look as good in a bikini.

That, in essence, is the basis for the tortured love-hate relationship we have with Tony. More often than not, we'll admire his courage. The man is a gamer. We'll bask in the temporal glory of the days that follow a win like this one. The question that he, and maybe we, need to answer is whether or not he possesses that fatal flaw that will keep him from finally triumphing over his foes.

That all said, you cannot, and should not, be averse to giving Romo his due for yesterday's courageous performance especially if you're one of the people who derided him for his mistakes against the Jets. The guy played a great game and gave all of his staunch supporters, and even those of us who waver at times, a reminder of what ‘can be' with him as the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.

Yesterday, all he did was ride in on that white horse and save the day. Truly the hero we all needed. 

GO COWBOYS!!!

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When the announcers said Romo was out, I knew we had lost the game

but when he ran out on the field in the 4th, it was like seeing a dead person come back to life and all hope was restored that we were going to come back and win the game…never a doubt in my mind.

Romo “Mr Clutch” did it again.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 19, 2011 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

+9

Semper Fi Do or Die

Thanks a lot Nnamdi for wasting a whole day of productivity at work and stressing me out. Now we get to destroy you twice a year and I'll call us even.

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by Jeremiah_24 on Sep 19, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's where we differ Terry,

i still thought we would win when Romo was out. after all we won 5 games without him last year.
there is a special fighting spirit in this team this year.
Romo was an inspiration when he came back in last night though.
Major respect for him toughing it out.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Sep 19, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm

Saints last year?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about the way Kitna single handedly blew the Cardinals game last year with his two pick 6s?

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Sep 20, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

5-5

Garcia can, Cassell can,

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by thebigham on Sep 21, 2011 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ooo, since we're playing with stats...

… and I’m bored, that’s 50% vs 62.5%. Not bored enough to dig into the respective team performances and situations relative to each case, so the comparison’ll be more fleshed out.

Why look any further than our own rib-meister, Tony Roma Romo? Mmmm, them ribs are tender, meat just falls off the bone… – mmm-mmm, good…

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cassell is now a starter

Garcia? Really.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 21, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I meant, who has that kind of backup TODAY?

Going back that far, I would have hoped you would have put up Danny White first.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 21, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

delousional Terry as usal with the Romo blinders..

How you can make such a statement when Kitna looked 10 times better than Romo from the first snap than Romo did the entire game up until that point… Really?. You have no idea at that point. I think as many did, we had a great chance because he looked better than Romo

Mistake free football ROMO. Just do it!

by Boyzfan94 on Sep 19, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

For a guy that got almost no reps, he came in and zinged that ball around and the INT in the end zone looked like a busted route

The other one was a mis-read on him.

Otherwise, how about that TD in the corner? Yowza!!!

I like Kitna!!!

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That TD in the corner was aces

Coming in cold and doing what he did was great. So glad we have him and that’s the reason he is here. He kept us in that game and its pretty sad that people are overlooking that.

Mistake free football ROMO. Just do it!

by Boyzfan94 on Sep 19, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hang on

Romo looked pretty damn good that first drive. He didn’t miss the FG.

His play only dropped off after the broken rib (and punctured lung).

If you bust Kitna’s rib then it would be a fair comparison. And how does Kitna get a pass for the 2 INT’s?

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by BoyfromOz on Sep 19, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't

…but how many teams have a backup as accomplished as Kitna?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought his play got better AFTER he got hurt.

Before he got hurt he had a streak of at least 8 consecutive incompete passes.

The key to life isn't doing what you are told not to do, it is knowing what is worth doing when told not to do it.

by SaintsFanInIraq on Sep 20, 2011 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing about that

…the sack itself seemed almost innocuous. It was an everyday hit.

I’ve watched it several times now and gone back and watched the hits taken by Jay Cutler and Matt Ryan and others this past week.

I’m beginning to wonder if Romo’s body doesn’t stand up to the punishment of the NFL game as well as his contemporaries.

I’ve said in previous posts that his volume stats are inferior to those with a similar number of years as the starting QB of their teams because of Romo’s missed time. If he misses more, the gap will widen. He’ll struggle in comparison to guys like Schaub, Manning and Rivers.

So, again, the question;

Is Tony Romo “brittle”?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Idk breaking bones is a very freak thing

Ive broken a lot of bones in my body.. but I also took a lot worse hits and falls then what caused me to break my bones. Make sense?

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by thebigham on Sep 20, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Finger, clavicle, rib

How many more of these can his body take before he’s FORCED to choose another vocation?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, your hit point and ham's freakish are both true

To your question, it depends. Could be the choice’ll come before the need.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think he's brittle?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess its all perspective

Ive broke my left collarbone 3x, right forearm compound, nose, 8 fingers one time or another and maybe something else. I can say for everyone of them was a freak/fluke thing about how it happened.

I played a LOT of backyard football with my bro 5years older than me and his friends. I took a lot of hits and a lot worse hits. I’d get sandwiched, body slammed, leveled every which way, and how do I break my collar bone the first time, I tripped haha.

I guess you could say I was brittle but I took a lot of more hits. I don’t feel brittle or consider myself brittle.

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by thebigham on Sep 20, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

You ARE brittle.

:-)

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

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by thebigham on Sep 20, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

One more thing

Is it me or did the team sort of “wake up” when Kitna went in?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they had just started hitting their stride

right before the half when Romo and Austin finally connected for that TD. Maybe I’m wrong but that sending them into the half seemed to be the motivation they needed, but who knows.

Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Sep 19, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

That team woke up big time

Mistake free football ROMO. Just do it!

by Boyzfan94 on Sep 19, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think so too

Is there something about Kitna’s nature, his urgency, or something that gets the team fired up?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

my guess it was like....

when ya lose your starting QB , you know that the rest of the team has to pick it up and carry more of the weight, its like a light comes on, oopse we are w/o our starting QB… hmmm lets go gents !

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by demonbane on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

You may be right

…but that stuff really irks me. When coaches are asked what they’ll do when their QB goes down, they always say the same thing, “the rest of the guys will have to step up.”

Doesn’t that imply that the “rest of the guys” aren’t performing at 100% because the coach thinks they have more to give?

WTH?

I want a team that goes all out, all the time. I thought that was Garrett’s mantra; be great every moment, then stack a great day onto another, and onto another, until greatness becomes a habit.

Someone help me with this!

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

To no end

It’s a leadership dynamic that I can’t wrap my head around.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mr.Clutch?

Really?

I wonder who actually calls him that (other than you, of course).

I’m not sure that handle would stick, LOL.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is actually pretty clutch most of the time.

He is hounded by the media as a choker for two reasons only and those are the Seattle playoff fumble and the fact that he’s the Cowboy’s QB. Every QB has thrown picks or made mistakes to lose games including Peyton Manning and anyone else you can name. I don’t have the stats to back it up other than Romo having the highest 4th quarter QB rating of any active player, but I know I always feel like a chance with Romo in the game when we are within closing distance and he usually will drive us down the field.

by TheAnsah on Sep 19, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

See if you can google up the Dan Patrick replay where they played all of Romo's apologies

…and hint: there were many. Then they challenged callers to identify which game/year the apology came from.

I thinkyour “two reasons” is way off base.

by Lombardi.times.5 on Sep 19, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Pittsburgh in '08 i believe

But I agree, there aren’t that many. See the thing is his game winning drives go under the radar, and his mistakes are completely blown up.

by witten82 on Sep 19, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's in the job description

See Item #1, Starting QB (Dallas Cowboys).

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I think the Jets game is still hurtful.

It’s Romo’s performances against quality opponents that a lot of people keep coming back to.

Beating the 49ers is admirable, but this WAS a team we were supposed to beat.

Personally, a little less drama and a couple of blowouts are just fine by me.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's had plenty of good performances against quality opponents

and frankly they’ll all quality opponents in the NFL if we’re being honest.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 20, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, then he's 2-7 in his last 9 games against QUALITY opponents

Now what?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now he preps for another one

And does his “best” to make it 3-6.
Pesky 3’s. 3 of ’em there. Wholly a Trinity unto itself.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well played

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he hasn't lost more games than Seattle or the Jets last week.

What I’m saying is he hasn’t lost more than most QBs. Brett Favre was loved by the media for being a “gunslinger” and threw a ton of terrible picks throughout his long career and people just shrug and say it’s high risk high reward plays. I know he won a SB and was all but indestructible and all that so he gets some free passes. But the point is, yeah Romo has had a few really bad ones, but he has had a bunch of clutch end of game comebacks as well and I feel pretty confident in his abilities when the game is close, especially when we are behind.

by TheAnsah on Sep 19, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

they showed a stat that he had a 100.0 QB rating in the 4th quarter

it was the NFL career leading mark….no other QB in history has a higher 4th quarter rating than Tony….I found that stat alarming…

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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 19, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's 4th all time on passer rating in the regular season

104th all time in the playoffs.

Again, big games, quality opponents.

The 49ers game yesterday probably doesn’t qualify as either.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but two of those playoff games

he was getting annihilated due to no pass protection whatsoever. I do agree he hasn’t been as good in big games though. I still think a lot of that has to do with the rest of the team, but yes he needs to take that next step and find a way to win in those spots.

by TheAnsah on Sep 19, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody (outside of BTB) cares

…and THAT comes with the territory. People never remember that kind of ancillary information, no matter how pertinent.

He has to win DESPITE his team’s shortcomings. Rodgers did that in spades last year with all of those injuries.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have conceded that he needs to win in less than ideal situations

but to put it all on him isn’t right at all. I was at the Minnesota game and there was no QB in the league who could have won that game with the way our line was getting torched. Also that Giant defense that beat him in the playoffs happened to shut down the highest scoring offense ever and win the Superbowl. And yes, I know no one outside of BTB cares but that’s a bunch of BS. The media should have a responsibility to the truth instead just talking out their you know whats because of ignorance or an attempt to increase ratings.

by TheAnsah on Sep 19, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can lament it all we want, but that's the burden the position carries

It’s the most visible, highest paid and most glamorized.

In fact, given the rules to enhance the passing game, it’s never been more true.

The good news is, even though it may be wrong, it’s no more wrong for Romo than it is for any other QB in the NFL.

This just in! – the media is about ratings. That’s why advertisers pay less to advertise on a PBS documentary than on Game of Thrones.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes and no

I fail to understand why some fans think their QB should get some sort of “fair shake” from the media. Did you lament the way Mcnabb was treated? How about the crap Eli takes? And he won a Bling!!!

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

no he didin't, the Giants won that game

Eli sucks and we all know that. Him owning a ring doesn’t change that fact.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 20, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Eli is a better QB than he gets credit for.

His volume of work is greater than Romo’s.

…and, he has a bling.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tony wins games; The team loses games

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by Seanrude on Sep 20, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes and Yes

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

The guy is one of the 3 most sacked QB's since 2009

He gets up, dusts himself off and comes back to throw bullets.

Dallas, statistically, had a much better defense in 2009 than GB had last year. Still no bling. No deep playoff run even.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah.. marc columbo

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by thebigham on Sep 20, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who do you think will remember that when wikipedia writes up the story of Romo's career?

I don’t see any mention of the defense letting Danny white down when he was the QB.

Sounds like whining to me.

The true greats usually find a way to win, in spite of adversity.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am a big supporter teams win and very few times occur when one player is the reason they won.

Dan Marino is a very good case, and Bradshaw in contrast.

Marino>Bradshaw

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by thebigham on Sep 20, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Marino>Bradshaw?

Hmmmm. I doubt most of the pundits would agree with you if you compared their big-game performances. In fact, I think that might be a very unpopular opinion.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  


It’s good to have a ring.

Multiple’s moreso.

That said, shame Dan never made it back beyond year 2 and facing Montana. Breaks of the game. It’s why you play to win.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've always put a premium on those who were able to elevate their games on the biggest stages

If Montana scored 35, Marino needed to score 36.

If washington scored 34, Staubach needed to throw a perfect fade to Tony Hill to give Dallas 35.

IMO, Dallas had a better team than Pittsburgh in those Super Bowls and Bradshaw elevated his own game and that started a chain reaction on the team.

He did it again against Ferragamo’s Rams, who I also thought was more “talented”.

In 18 postseason games, Marino was 8-10 with a 77.1 rating.

In 19 postseason games, Bradshaw was 14-5 with an 83 QB rating and a staggering 112.8 rating in 4 Super Bowls.

You’ve met your first non-Steeler fan who disagrees.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

touche..

but like Terry says its a Team sport. Lets save this debate for another day ahah

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by thebigham on Sep 20, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only based on sign-up senoirity

And your two’s prior aquaintanceship.

Marino had/has the edge in superfical statistical assessment. Admired him for what he was, used to curse Bradhsaw, swore I’d never like the guy. Glad I learned my lesson, never coulda done it in playing days. Didn’t, in fact. Now, damn glad I got to see him and that team play, for all the grief they caused me. And others.

Now, seeing Bradshaw, I’d love to buy the guy a beer, BS with him, listen, laugh, the works. Cracks me up.

Whenever Marino gets tossed in on a ring-holder discussion, I always wonder what he’d trade for 1, stats-wise and the rest. Even just 1 more shot. A, maybe the, poster-child of how precious the opportunity is.

So, in short, make it a double.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its ok, You guys forget I am from PA

I have fought this argument since I could understand football haha. But lets save this discussion for a rainy day. Ill remember to bring it back up haha

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by thebigham on Sep 20, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remind me to ask...

… when you started, ok? Understanding football, that is. Forget? Blings, you got anything to clue ham in about this forgetting thing?

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blings

who the hell could’ve pulled that Vikings playoff game out? Romo was getting thrown around like a rag doll on practically every play and the defense was quitting with every Favre bomb to Rice. Keith Brooking even said he was pissed the Vikings were running it up on them as they were mailing it in!

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Sep 20, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody

You can’t pin that on Romo. And I’m not.

But when they go back and look at his body of work, as they do with all QB’s, no one will remember those kinds of details.

They’ll just call it a loss.

The fact is, that in the Season of Hud (yeah, it’s a shameless plug, so sue me), our guy Houck made the decision that ultimately cost the Cowboys their season by putting colombo in there too soon.

Who will remember that in 6-7 years? I’m betting the answer is none of the HOF voters.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope no one minds!

Ok… you don’t like Romo… we get it. What he did yesterday doesn’t matter who the opponent was, was simply awe inspiring. You think in your wildest dreams Brady or Peyton would have been back on the field… No. I know this because Brady didn’t and Peyton’s still out. Everyone cried “He isn’t a leader?” he finds a way to lose in the big games… seems to me he led us to beat an undefeated 13-0 Saints team in New Orleans, a 10-0 Indy team in the same season of course that was 2009 and this is 2011…. just saying when you say he can’t lead us to victory against quality opponents in big games… you can add the two wins against the Eagles at the end of the season too if you want. I get tired of the bashing by our own fans. The media sucks and I expect it from them but not from Cowboy fans. Stand behind your team all of them or go root for the Eagles. Maybe then you will have a QB you can admire and just maybe he will point at the score board too!

RexP

by Rex Pfister on Sep 19, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rex, I appreciate your opinion

…but what you’ve written here is myopic.

Stand behind your team or go root for the Eagles? Really?

I bet you want everyone who criticizes things about the USA to go live in the USSR, right?

I mean, come on. I will defend your right to speak out, but it seems you want to enjoy that right without giving others the same freedom.

There’s a word for that.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Sep 20, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You want another stat?

Also in the broadcast, so I’m trying not to sound too stuck up here because its not like I went to all this work to find it, but it stuck out to me. 10 times has Romo brought the Cowboys back to win a game that they were trailing in the 4th quarter. Obviously, you can’t attribute every single win to Romo, but I bet if I went and looked at each one there’d be a lot of credit that belongs to him.

by Tim Cato on Sep 19, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Now, how many of those were against good teams in big games?

That’s the problem. He looks great against teams like SF and Carolina, but people will continue to remember the big game struggles…until he wins it all.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Audacious of me?

;-)

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice one

blings haha

Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad

by Cowboys_Attack on Sep 19, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

See what I did there?

:-)

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes indeedy

Quite clever of ya

Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad

by Cowboys_Attack on Sep 20, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't attribute every single win to Romo

But had those games gone the other way, everyone would attribute the loss to Romo. It’s ridiculous how people fail to see the whole picture.

by witten82 on Sep 19, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

couldn't have said it better myself

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Sep 20, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. Resurrection now?!

You done gone deification delusional. Understable given your passions and the DNA thing, but jeez, thought we had this Hope thing worked out. It doesn’t get restored. It never leaves. You always had it, have it and will have it. Period.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understandable, though understable sorta works too.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha nice Blings
Yeah, that happened to me and Cindy, if you’re reading this, I don’t regret anything I said because not ALL make-up comes out in the laundry!!!!

Semper Fi Do or Die

Thanks a lot Nnamdi for wasting a whole day of productivity at work and stressing me out. Now we get to destroy you twice a year and I'll call us even.

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by Jeremiah_24 on Sep 19, 2011 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously, who does that?

She was a true surfer girl from Laguna Beach and had no regard for my stuff. Jaw droppingly gorgeous but a royal pain in the you-know-what.

I tolerated it as long as I could. Honest.

My friends, however, still think I was stupid. They’re not Cowboys fans…they just don’t get it.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Romo was Magnificent ..

the team kept fighting ,no quit in them this year.

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Sep 19, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Garrett sure has them playing hard

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

yess 5blings....

i think garrett and jones hass the attention of all the players this year. due to cuts and releases and threat of a trade to those who dont prepare and show up ready to contribute, as it doesnt matter where they were drafted or rookie or vet,or salaryy. you either play the role and part to the best of ones ability or you lose the star and your place on the team. i like it!

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Sep 20, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Romo the Magnificent?

You been Terryfyied, scots?

How many fingers am I holding up?

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Las Vegas, Chamomile Tea, I love puppies

“Terryfied”

Heh. :-)

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Terryfied is too close to 9-implantation for comfort

The fyi buried in Terryfyied keeps the 9-count at bay, retains the Terryfying consistency in defying the slippery-slope descent to Romo-deification and keeps me from being Terryfyied. Whew, 3 saved me, thank you Wholly Trinity.

You, however, using 9-grapheme’d words, bear watching for further signs that this and your recent softenings, soft-headed, soft-hearted or not are Terryfying not only you, but me. In different senses, thankfully. Or not.

You’re not totally gone yet, haven’t toally fallen under the power of the dark side of the Star and its Dark Lord, he who shall not be named, the holder of the hero-zero Romodar.

Had you said “9”, mistaking me for Frodo, missing the one ring 1 finger (kinda like Romo), that’d have been the clincher. Sure sign of being Terryfyied.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is some funny stuff!

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by Seanrude on Sep 20, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

mr. clutch

I love the post and totally agree with you! He has a fight in him that reminds me of a man in a green bay uniform! Romo makes mistakes but damn the plays he makes under pressure. The way he stays in there until the last second knowing he’s about to take a shot! That’s the person I want leading my team! My hats off to you Romo! I jumped on your wagon along time ago! Go Cowboys!

RWilsonII

by rodeocowboy on Sep 19, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks rc

I think one thing we’d all like to see is him choosing not to extend EVERY play and throwing a ball away or taking a sack to live another day (play) once in a while.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can agree with that. That's real and fair criticism. Sometimes it's better to throw an imcompletion or scramble and run out of bounds for no gain or a yard than it is to make something out of nothing.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Sep 20, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Especially on FIRST DOWN!!!

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm Rec'ing This

for the title alone. And also, will all members of the media who so viciously attacked Tony last week please step up to the table. To borrow a line from Full Metal Jacket
“It’s a big (excrement) sandwich and we all have to take a bite”

"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo

by Far Rider on Sep 19, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

everyone except Micheal Smith from ESPN it seems

just saw him on Inside the Numbers and he wouldn’t give Tony any props at all for the win. He just came out and said that the only thing that would matter to him was Rings. Then he goes out of his way to defend McNabb in Minnesota…..he lost all credibility with me as an analyst with those remarks.

Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home

by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 19, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jaime Dukes had nothing nice to say either

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 19, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is pretty harsh

He thinks Romo is a choker.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

its getting out of hand

he said the only reason Romo played well was because of the shot he took, that is absurd

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 19, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I remember a good sack sometimes woke Favre up.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i must say ever since i caught old jamie in a ......

self gratifying fetal position, ( due to micheal smith bumpin him from his chair atm he was to go live ; ) it was hard for me to take him serious either ..loil, but to this day, he still clamors it was his thumb! so , in that i anticipated such a move , and foolish rhetoric, i blew up the broadcast booth, so as to wipe ( forever ) such blatherings from corrupting my glorious visions of Romo’s heroics.

  now ! that the bull has effectively left the china closet, (somewhere in the recesses of my mind and between my ears ), we now ;can take you back to your regular programing.

woman !, dont try to understand em, dont try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol

by demonbane on Sep 20, 2011 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

If you’re gonna beat him up for playing stupid, you’d better be ready to call him out for good behavior too!

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

obviously

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 19, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good analogy, he is the big titted girlfriend with lots of money

who doesn’t like to clean the house. All is forgiven after the win yesterday. Gutsy, solid, clutch performance. Mancrush back on.

by irvinfan on Sep 19, 2011 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Oops, reply fail

I haven’t FORGOTTEN the Romistakes.

But, maybe he can use that as the fuel to propel him to a Aaron Rodgers-type of year?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is why I like you

because you point out the obvious stupidity, but at the same time can reward positive play

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 19, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Bro

Hopefully I get to do more of the latter than the former as the season wears on.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol I hear ya

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 19, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terry?

It’s all very clear to me now.
No wonder the twain’ve never met.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Not even my favorite R Scheider movie

But pretty close.

If you’ve never given it a watch, try ‘Sorcerer’ where he is a co-lead. Dated, but the story stands up. Highly suspenseful, very atmospheric, it’s almost 2 movies – the first being each of the 4 major characters back-stories and the rest, well being the rest. Also a very good soundtrack by Tangerine Dream that contributes to the mood.

http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2039677209/

O yeah – and Go Cowboys..

Dont fret about whats lost, embrace/appreciate what's given

by tdships on Sep 19, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweatin' nitro

Appropriate to the game under consideration. Good one, td. Seen it. Once in theatre way back when. Friedkin flicks are watchers.

Needed something for the “very clear to me now” and hinting of “something wonderful”.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Certainly a very good game by Romo

What we saw was a quarterback exerting his will on the opponent.

Yes he needed an offensive line to block and receivers that can run routes and catch but if Romo can do this again in the playoffs… Well let’s just worry about the Skins next week first.

Hey how about the defense also? What is it 9 sacks so far?

MacGruber!

by Mojoness on Sep 19, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you see the differential in yards gained in the second half?

Rob Ryan with some outstanding adjustments…

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine what would happen

If we draft a dominant end and a competent safety? With some health… I mean…

(faints)

MacGruber!

by Mojoness on Sep 19, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously, the defense has been the MOST pleasant of surprises

Jenkins and a bunch of nobodies playing CB. Wow.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

scary

Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!

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by Archie Barberio on Sep 19, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of a line from a song:

“I still recall the way he led the charge and saved the day”
Good post Blings

I started out with nothing and still have most of it left

by Benthere on Sep 19, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Ben

I love Steely Dan.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

5B - knew this would be forthcoming

And like our erstwhile hero, you did not disappoint. Excellent perspective as always – fair and balanced even.

Must admit, I was especially impressed by Parcels comments on TR before the game, perhaps I have been too harsh on his appreciation for his former protege’.

Look forward to the next installment in the Antonio RamHERO Romo saga. Like my industry, it’s never boring, but can be extremely frustrating. Couldn’t imagine doing anything else anyway

Dont fret about whats lost, embrace/appreciate what's given

by tdships on Sep 19, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Your patronage/comments are always much appreciated

In some circles, the phrase, “fair and balanced” has become pejorative.

I saw the Parcells commentary. I loved how he said, “this player” when referring to Romo. The guy is so freakin’ impersonal! John Wooden he is not.

Also, on NFLN, they asked the question, “Do you trust Romo is clutch situations?”

Mooch: Yes

Sapp: No

Faulk: No

Carter: No

Irvin: I don’t know

I wonder what they’ll say after this week.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mooch: Yes
Sapp: No
Faulk: No
Carter: No
Irvin: I don’t know. Yet.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

so damn true!

the man cant commit can he

Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad

by Cowboys_Attack on Sep 19, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arguably the hardest worker this games seen

In terms of practicing and making himself better I totally respect that man and only wish our team had the same exact mindset.

Roger: Hey, with this mortar launcher, we can get back at the kid who went all Tom Sizemore on your eye!
Steve: Oh, I wish I could get back at him. I'm gonna dress up as a girl and get him to have sex with me and then say "Ha! I'm not a girl! You just had sex with a boy that hates you!"
Roger: Yes, let's leave that plan between you, me, and the string of therapists who won't be able to help you.
American Dad

by Cowboys_Attack on Sep 20, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Garrett has it

…he just doesn’t have Irvin’s gravitas. Irvin is a force of nature, the likes of which could only come from having to struggle the way he did as a child growing up. He appreciated his opportunity and knew that if he got outworked, he’d probably get outplayed.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neither happened

Down to a day at the Vet. To one at Canton.
Wager, even now.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

NOT. JUST. A GAME.

…to him.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Every moment's...

… part of a play in Life’s game. Irvin exemplifies the brimstoned daring to defy and prove a double-dawg dare. For all his sinner-not-saint oh-so-human failings, he’s a I don’t believe in the no-win scenario kinda guy. He remains so.

I’ll not be so foolhardy as to speak for him, speak to his feelings and thoughts regarding that moment, that day, that game or the greater one they are but part of. But I’ll buy the round should we ever find ourselves sitting discussing the matter with him.

Butt, I’ll be bold enough to wager I could sway him to saying I’m right. If he’d need swaying. Audacious of me to claim? Or was the dare? Both?

btw, the “deny and prove”’s a hint to solving your Suck-It-Up paradox conundrum.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gotta Rec This Tan

Irvin was always my favorite Cowboy. Heart and soul of a champion.
Could you imagine Romo and him….

"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo

by Far Rider on Sep 20, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could you imagine Jimmy WITHOUT him?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fire

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh did you miss the ball on that play. That’s not on the QB so much as a receiver letting it go over his head, not even trying for the catch. For shame.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously I missed a golden opportunity

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lombardi sure-6 silver. It’s ok, we got time left on the clock.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw, c'mon, jump in this...

wayback thingy of yours with me, I’m driving. Let’s go back, say about mid-90’s, catch practice, post-practice actually. Sit back, sip a cold one, watch 2 guys playing catch, converse a bit about if either of ‘em realize just how special that team-mate time is, what their future’s hold, where they be in our today. C’mon, slip down memory lane, the break’ll do y’all good…

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there anyone in today's NFL that even comes close?

I don’t think so.

The kinds of PEOPLE that college football is producing for the NFL have a sense of entitlement, an arrogance even.

Maybe Schaub and Andre, but I think that might be a stretch.

How special that time was. Not sure we knew how fleeting it would be.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

9-82

nuff said

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Sep 20, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I was speaking strictly about WR's and the prima donnas the college ranks produce

But if you look at QB-TE combos, Peyton and Dallas Clark would be one worth putting forth. Rivers and Gates too.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

well you could say

that Romo – Austin seems to have the makings

and Stafford to Megatron may end up right there with them

and I would imagine that Kolb- Fitz may end up there with them…..

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Sep 20, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's be clear

would we really want to compare Romo & Austin to Aikman and Irvin? The Detroit combo? Kolb and Fitz???

Come on.

Many others have shown promise, but so few combos have made the grade, and I don’t just mean volume…I mean winning the blings, as Aikman to Irvin.

The future is what they make of it, but neither of those you mentioned have had early enough starts to remotely qualify.

Montana to Rice is the best comparison I can find.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 21, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

There've been others...

… a 9er comes to mind. 49er, before the deifiers jdescend.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

ze·ro [zi(ə)rō], n:

1. In the eyes of some, a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities, yet has failed to win the season’s final game.
2. The number of Cowboys’ Super Bowl victories since SB XXX (Jan 28, 1996; 1995 season).

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 19, 2011 5:56 PM CDT reply actions  

zero

1. The number of opportunities he has had to win the Superbowl.
2. The support he gets from some so called Cowboy fans.
3. The same number of Superbowl wins by Danny White.
4. The number of beers I have left in my fridge after toasting Romo.
5. The number of loses you can attribute to a single player on any given team.
6. The number of times I’ve blamed Romo for a loss…. even the Jets game. Yes I said it. Sure he made mistakes but it took a bunch of mistakes for us to lose that game. Blame Romo, blame the Special Teams, blame the defence, blame my Mom but it doesn’t make a difference the fact is that Football is a team sport and no one man wins or loses any one game. They do how-ever make a difference in the outcome.

Tony makes a difference… like it or not.

RexP

by Rex Pfister on Sep 19, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

I rec'd this.

Residing on the BEast coast.

by DCyanks21 on Sep 19, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, I think you have to attribute most of this win to Tony

Yes, lots of players contributed, but Tony was the key.

I’d say the same thing in reverse about last week.

Why is that unbalanced in your view?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

This to Rex or me?

In case, I’ll get it outta the way now. Never said you were unbalanced. Not about your playing with your Romo-focused teeter-totter.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was to this...
the fact is that Football is a team sport and no one man wins or loses any one game

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for clearing my muddled mind.

I can go nu clear fishin’ now.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Notice...

… not one peep, not one word, naming Romo or any other player. Period.

Have regard for exemplifying the attitude of some in my having done that, written that, posted it. Now, to the task at hand:

1. As the team he’s been part of has yet to achieve being in that game. Or the one prior to it.
2. True. Are you infering, implying or under the assumption I am in that group? btw, Cowboys fans or any other teams’, some of them, any of them, are perfectly within their rights to not support a player and not be judged to be “so-called” fans. Whose place is it to sit in judgement of another’s fanhood? Mine? Yours? Whose? None, I say. What say you?
3. True.
4. The number of beers I have left in my fridge after toasting the Cowboys.
5. Preachin’ to the choir. Also applies to wins.
6. Ditto. Him or any other team member.
Difference is, where some say “blame”, I say “lame”. Blame game’s never solved a challenge.

Does this clear things up for you?

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for linking this, btw. I find your posts on here very amusing, and have great respect for your intelligence and vocabulary. That said...

It looks like I’m not the only one you’ve been defending yourself against on the matter of “fanhood.” I have no doubt you’re a fan, and never meant to solely implicate you with my last post the other day, even though, for whatever reason, you took it as such.
As for this post, notice how you cleverly insinuated Romo in your definition of “zero”, (and then protected yourself by writing “In the eyes of some”)? I love that. However, I include you in that “some” for obvious reasons. And the fact that you can’t get behind our quarterback enough to recognize what our current Cowboys are like with him Vs. without him makes me question your overall “fanhood.” To me, you’d rather weigh the mistakes Romo has made as more than the good things he’s done. Apparently, I’m not alone in that assumption. And to me, that’s not being a true fan, a fanatic. We’ll settle it at this, you’re a fan. I’m a fanatic. And we will forever distinguish the two as completely different entities. When we get a quarterback you can cheer for, we’ll start calling you a fanatic too.

by jakezze01 on Sep 22, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell ya what...

… you can carry both sets of spikes, along with your cross.

I’ll keep it brain-dead simple for you, so I understand it, as you probably know I’m a simpleton and like simplicity. You’ve never sat with me for a game, never heard me speak of Romo with friend or foe. I insinuated no name, other then the one in the reader’s mind, thus hoping and attempting to enlighten them to their own biases, if they’re Star bright enough to see them.

Include me in your “some” with meager fabrications, misinterpretations or outright twisting of “evidence” at your own peril. The peril of being wrong. Just. Plain. Wrong. Which it appears you have familiarity with. So, if to you, I or anyone else is not what you judge to be a “true fan”, you have chosen to sit in judgement of another’s fanhood, though you’re apparently unaware of your inherently contradictory position. Having exposed yourself for being the self-righteous, unquestioning 72-virgins-in-heaven sort and crusader-camp-following type, I’ll take it as a compliment. As I will driving each spike.

What you speak of is not fanaticism in the sports sense, but extremism more akin to that type which plagues this world, regardless of supposed religious or political affliation.

Now, twaddle along, gather your evidence, and hurry on back ‘cuz I believe in givin’ ‘em a fair trial before the hangin’, judge. You included. Might want to make sure I’ve never defended Romo or any other Cowboys QB, or that hanging’s likely to become an excruciating crucifiction, though the hanging’d serve to shorten the breath of one whose sweet words carry a foul stench.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 22, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

So much religious imagery, at least when talking football loyalties, disturbs me. Greatly.

I mean, one, I’m not religious. Two, I wouldn’t want the fanaticism that you refer to reading my comments and misinterpreting them for anything discriminatory. (don’t tell ‘em I said this, but some o’ dems craaaAAAaaaazy! Like, want-to-kill-cartoonists-over-their-drawings crazy!)

Look, the fact of the matter is, you have now questioned Romo’s leadership on a previous thread, and on this thread, have insinuated that your opinion of Romo is that he’s a “zero” (at this point in time, at least. I will keep this open for ya in case you want to retract your statement at any point in the future). Don’t deny that Romo was the subject in the latter post I refer to. You’re obviously way smarter than that. I mean, the comment is tied to an article ALL ABOUT TONY ROMO, for cryin’ out loud. You even used the writer’s own opening as fodder for your implications. ExcuuUUuuse me (and Rex Pfister, apparently) for jumping to conclusions!
 
But you’re right, I have never watched a game with you. Maybe you have a Romo jersey that you wear every game. I don’t know. I doubt it, but stranger things have come to light. I know I have one, and I wear it often. Because that’s what, let me be real specific here, sports fanatics do. They cheer for their team’s players through thick and thin, because we have no control over anything that happens on that field, in the locker room, or in the front office. We can only cheer.
I prefer defending my teams’ players when they’re doubted; I prefer to cheer and hope for a comeback when we’re losing; I prefer to look past week one mistakes because I know championships aren’t won then. I know there are 16 more weeks to try to get in “the tournament”, and from there, we all know it’s anyone’s guess as to what happens. Call me crazy, but I root and hoot and holler for each and any of the 53 I get to see play on Thursday, Sunday, or Monday, depending…until they are wearing another jersey. If that’s the equivalent to bearing a cross or waiting to die for my virgins in your eyes, you’re mistaken. Just. Plain. Wrong. I would be ecstatic if we traded Tony Romo for Tom Brady, as I am not under the impression Romo is the greatest QB playing in the league currently. But if Brady should take an unexpected tumble into mediocrity, I would still be here cheering until they plug the next guy in. And I’d cheer for him too. Get it? I don’t want my cake and the ability to eat it too, like you do. I want what’s best for our team, and trust the leadership in place to get us there, whatever that best may be. My job is to cheer through thick and thin, not doubt.
I do judge others’ “fanhood” based on mine, because I don’t understand the point of being unhappy watching a game. It’s a game.

by jakezze01 on Sep 22, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a Romo jersey

Does that preclude me from seeing him in a light that I believe illuminates the truth about him (my truth)?

And if I do, does that make me less of a fan than the guy who loves him but chose not to shell out the ducats for a #9 jersey?

I root for him, but I also call him out when he’s a bonehead.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 22, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

So by this...

…I’m left to assume you think he played like a “bonehead” week one…even after what happened in week two, which, in itself in my opinion, exonerates him of the fumble in week one (the original subject matter). After the week two effort, in my opinion, you’re forced to extrapolate that the fumble in week one was more of a good defensive play than a poor choice by Romo, for a couple reasons. One, because he was clearly playing it safe leading up to the fumble. In his Inside the NFL interview (I believe it was that show), he even says as much. Another reason not to “hate” on Romo for that fumble was because it didn’t directly lead to any Jets points. And he was trying to make something happen to help his team win the game when a play broke down. No shame in that. Are there better choices – ie sliding feet first to save 4th down, throwing the ball away, etc.? Yes. If he scores, he’s the hero. If not, well… we all know what happens:

“Tony Romo is not made for the big stage”

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tsk-tsk, you are green at this...

… you’ve neither presented conclusive evidence to support your ranting claim nor bothered to ascertain whether your jump-to-judgment was either warranted or valid.

You’ve not even considered your own contradictory statements and, more importantly, actions with respect to the point you seek to judge others on:

isn’t it possible to doubt, and point out negatives, and give up on certain aspects of the game when they’re failing…
AND still hold the belief your team can pull through whilst rooting for them the whole time to boot?

by jakezze01 on Sep 18, 2011 11:27 PM CDT

Is this not indicative of hypocrisy in your activites? Casting judgement on others for that which you yourself have done? Whereas you flit beteen individual and team, depending on your whims, can you not see that some fans regard the individual as a necessary component of team? That where you “give up on certain aspects”, others may not be so fickle? I suppose the blinding light of your own shining brillance must get in the way. Or is it blind ignorance, both of fact and perhaps in a more reprehensible sense?

i hate to be so negative…
but watching this team just makes me feel so negative…lol anyone else?? or do i need to take a walk real quick and get my head on straight?

by jakezze01 on Sep 18, 2011 4:56 PM EDT on Cowboys @ 49ers: Game Day Open Thread II on Blogging The Boys

No, it doesn’t make me feel negative, watching them or analyzing their play, individually or as a team. And yes, you need to take a walk and get your head on straight. Even now. Hmmm, 49’ers game, eh? Recently, by the look of it.

I believe I wrote:

    Tony Romo fumbles at the goal line. That play hurts.

I don’t see ANYWHERE on ANY post I’ve EVER made that says the fumble is no big deal. Any fumble in a close game is a big deal.
I can’t believe, as a self-proclaimed "sports writer" you ignore the fact that the tide of the game swung with the BLOCKED PUNT.
If you were in the same crowd I was (alongside many-a-Cowboys fans), you would know that when the fumble happened, we all said, à la Bud Lite, "Here we go. We’re going to let the Jets climb right back in this instead of putting it away."
We knew it was a big deal.
BUT, not so fast, the Jets were forced to punt on the ensuing possession.
At least at the bar I was at, we all shrugged, looked around, congratulated our D for the stop, and we were all still under the impression Dallas was controlling the game.
Our team made some mental mistakes, the punt was blocked, and the rest is history. Had their Defense not scored, do you believe the Jets offense still scores, yes or no?
I say yes. I saw a deflated team once that happened. I saw the (hopefully small) remnants of last year surface.

Let me not end there, as I’m also optimistic. Last week, I saw a team make it a point to fight through much adversity to redeem themselves from the Jets loss. I almost think that without that loss to the Jets, our team doesn’t pull it out this week. Romo needed all the hate and doubt and blame in order to motivate himself back to beat the 49ers. So, I guess, thanks for the help. Keep it up, bc this year’s team seems to feed off of it, rather than cower from it.
by jakezze01 on Sep 22, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply

Without delving to the extremes of “hate” you seem to relish and frequently indulge yourself in (hate’s such a hateful word and concept, don’t you find? Oh, excuse me, I suppose not, not with your frequent indulgence), just keeping to the “doubt and blame” you credit for Tony’s motivation there, just where’s it supposed to come from if not close to home? Are such things influential to you when they come from a source so far removed from you as to be irrelevant? Would not the Cowboys fans “doubting” or questioning have more relevance than fans of other teams? Than the muck-raking media? I’ll leave the “blame game” to you, as it’s something I do not practice or have any use for. It solves no challenge, contributes nothing and is counter-productive. But you feel free to “blame” in your judgments, don’t let reason and common sense get in your way.

As the religious extremism has you further distrubed than your passions alone cause you to be, though I suspect your being disturbed is nothing new to you, let’s try another tact, this time in the political realm (as you have exemplified the danger in the sports realm quite sufficiently, thank you):

Excuse me if your brand of youthful passion and unquestioning true-believer idolatry and blindly following the individual in a cult of leadership scenario doesn’t impress me much. Seen it before. You may want to look into something called the National Socialist movement, Germany, 1930-40’s.

Just answer me this before you bother saying another word: What time does this clock-face show?

Once you do, gather your evidence, ensure I’ve not supported Romo or any Cowboys QB, try and get it right next time and for heaven’s sake, don’t bore me as you’ve come dangerously near to surpassing the dimmest response I’ve yet received at BTB already. Not quite, but close. Unless that’s your goal in life.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

You are my taking statements WAAAAYYYYY out of context, and stretching others far past the line of logical reference. You’re comparing me to a Hitler Youth, a budding Nazi? Really?
OK….
Well let me start by making one very important distinction, which applies to your first to quotes up there:
Compare, if you will, reacting to a moment in football without singling anyone out, and overreacting to the point of questioning someone’s leadership ability and calling them a “zero” post-game.
Key word react, as I’m sure you notice. But prefixes and suffixes can be mother^&%#ers.
Your first quote up there was also in defense of another faithful BTB’er, might I add, when his “fanhood” came under attack. I make very clear contrasts, albeit sometimes they’re very concise. See above exercise, and reread as necessary. I don’t see any hypocrisy.

Let’s keep things in perspective, which you have a real hard time doing so this might prove futile, you’re now epic tirade stems from this quote,

I’m so sick of people looking for a way to say something negative about Romo- especially you supposed "fans."

A quote which you took so personal, it has led you to berate me over the internet (gotta love internet tough guys, especially rhodes scholar, thespian-types).
I make my points very clear, whereas you garble incomprehensibly to most here, I’m sure.
Judging (yeah, I have a right to do that) by your latest spree of insults, you don’t see the importance of a bye week enough to know there is one, and it counts as a week in the season…because it is a week in the season.
Cont’d when I have another break…

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

The hypocrisy's self-evident

If you don’t see it your comprehension requires work.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

As for the third quote up there (the long one):

This is taken from a debate with the Eagle’s writer JimmyK. He was arguing that the game-breaking moment in the Jets loss was the Romo fumble. I happen to think the fumble is the less of the “three evils”:
In order of importance: The blocked punt + return for TD which ties the game, Romo’s interception (which I almost tie with Wittens PI penalty), then the fumble.

The “hate” quote you took and ran with, bring it back, dude. Bring it waaaayyyyyy back. And dust yourself off while you’re at it, man…get with the times. If someone say’s the word “hate” nowadays, when referencing a celebrity or sports figure, it’s just a hip way of saying they’re under scrutiny… For example, “The US media likes to hate on the Dallas Cowboys.”
They’re not lynching anyone! No, no, no… Sorry for the confusion! But I’ll let that one pass. Use it once in a while in a sentence, though. Your grandkids will love you for it. But don’t worry, not in that crazy hippie, “free love” kind of way. That was back in the 1960’s and 70’s….

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well aware of your defending the Cowboys and Chia

Regardless of who it was, coming to another fan’s defence is commendable. However, try defending those you don’t agree with, as well. Then you’ll warrant the title and honor of what being a football fan is all about. A football fan who knows the game, his team and happens to cheer for the Dallas Cowboys. Not some ranting homeristicly blind nitwit that gives us all a bad name (not saying you’re that, just in case you flip out and go off half-cocked again). They’re our cross to bear and unfortunately, from this seat, you tread that line too closely. Sure hope you treat fans in public with more courtesy than you do online. And not blemish the Cowboys fanhood with this “supposed fan” BS you spout.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well aware of your defending Chia and the Cowboys

Regardless of who it was, coming to another fan’s defence is commendable. However, try defending those you don’t agree with, as well. Then you’ll warrant the title and honor of what being a football fan is all about. A football fan who knows the game, his team and happens to cheer for the Dallas Cowboys. Not some ranting homeristicly blind nitwit that gives us all a bad name (not saying you’re that, just in case you flip out and go off half-cocked again). They’re our cross to bear and unfortunately, from this seat, you tread that line too closely. Sure hope you treat fans in public with more courtesy than you do online. And not blemish the Cowboys fanhood with this “supposed fan” BS you spout.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw, your math sucks. 17 - 2 = 15, not 16 weeks.

That 1 W may be the difference between dancing or not. Games are more important than weeks. There’re only 14 of them left, just to save you the math difficulties.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, there;s a bye in there, so my math is correct.

There is 17 weeks in football to make sure your team makes it to the dance…
More to come…

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Inability to perform elementary mathematics.

Inability to read and comprehend. Apparently unable to tell time. Unable or unwilling to answer a direct question. Lack of evidentiary and basic reasoning skills.

C’mon, this isn’t even a challenge. Ever see a cat with a mouse? More like a bird, in your case. Nothing but twittering, tweeting inanities and inaccuracies, tweety-bird. Sorry, that one’s taken, so how’s twitty-bird sound? Perhaps only half as witty, therefore well-suited.

Toddle along with your twaddle.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Going back to the original posts, you fail to answer several of my questions, yet I engage you despite your focus on the original subject.

Namely the first one, given my examples of leadership qualities…
I will refresh you:
I proposed,

When has he NOT shown leadership in defeat?
How about the fact that he owns up to his mistakes, constantly praises his teammates for their effort, and shoulders the blame every time we lose.

To which I added,
^^That…^^
…plus, and feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, I have never seen Romo excessively celebrating, nor have I seen him lose control and composure in defeat, which is something that, to me, exemplifies a leader. The leaders that I look up to never overreact one way or the other.

What say you on the subject?

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

What say I?

Show me where I’ve said definitively that he did not show leadership, in victory or defeat.

You began this when you overreacted to the “And in defeat?” question posed in another thread. This is not about Romo, it’s about your choosing to and believing you are “entitled” to judge another’s fanhood.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just asking a question, man.

Now who is the hypocrite?

Unable or unwilling to answer a direct question.

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please just bring your evidence and stop your nonsense.

You chose to judge someone’s fanhood. Now back it up. Or can’t you?

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unable or unwilling to answer a direct question

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meaning you're unable to prove it

You have nothing. Nada. Diddly. Squat.

You chose to judge someone’s fanhood and have no verifiable basis for your opinion. That would make it wrong, Incorrect. Erroneous. As you are.

Let’s go through this:
1. Get your facts straight. Do your research.
2. Understand your foe.
3. Then return.
4. If you choose to judge another’s fanhood, bring your non-ranting evidence.

You failed at 3 out of 4. There’s that pesky 3 again. I’ll admit you kept returning (#3, there it is again), each time with nothing but judgment, misinterpretation, misinformation, nonsense and insult. Your laziness in getting the facts straight, doing your research, gathering the necessary evidence, is shameful. Shamefully inadequate. Understanding your foe? Likewise. Bringing non-ranting evidence? Likewise. Failure. Utter failure.

While I needn’t offer up evidence of your error in judgment (being one who believes in “innocent until proven guilty”) I’ll do so. I needn’t even go that far into the past to drive the points (spike points, at that) home:

Strike Spike 1:
by tanstaafl on Sep 2, 2011 12:42 PM CDT on The Tony Romo Drama on Blogging The Boys
… there’s a misunderstanding here. We’re on the same side of that "mistake, don’t think he made any" argument. I hesitate saying "you’re right" as it’s somewhat self-serving being as I am in agreement with you.

The "football player" remark was more to point out and deal with this excuse-making tendancy some exhibit. Especially in cases where no "excuse" need be uttered.

And you’re right. He made none. Neither should anyone, even with the best of intentions, in his defence.


Strike Spike 2:
by tanstaafl on Sep 2, 2011 12:47 PM CDT on The Tony Romo Drama on Blogging The Boys
Actually, maybe not quite on the same side. Your comment indicates you think he made a mistake. I don’t. He reacted to the circumstance of the moment. Could the results of that been more favorable from our perspective. Sure. Do I "fault" him for the split-second decision in reaction? No damn way.


Strike Spike 3:
Yep. The “no excuses” way.
by tanstaafl on Sep 1, 2011 8:10 PM CDT on The Tony Romo Drama on Blogging The Boys
Excuse me, the Cowboys Way.

You may want to read the thread to get the context, as we do agree on context being important. You may not, as you have displayed a tendency to laziness and rushing-to-judgment without verifying your perspective.

I never thought I’d say this to anyone here. You are not worth my time (hopefully you’ll feel the same way and cease responding. Seriously, don’t bother, I’ll neither respond nor care what you say.). I’ll not continue with this nonsense. Take it as you choose to. You win, I lose, I’m running away, I’m arrogant, whatever. It matters not, as nothing will change the fact you are in the wrong in judging another’s fanhood. Yes, “in my opinion”, as you have said elsewhere as if anyone’s statement on a subjective point is not their opinion.

btw, notice the timestamp on this, it’s the most recent of mine, despite the comment-trading beneath this posting.

This conversation with you serves no point. I’m done with it. And you.

Strike Spike 3. I’m outta here.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 24, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nahhh, not even close. Jeez, even when shown you don't get it...


… once again, just for you, the way I look when reading your posts.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right...that mustache is too cool for you... More like:

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I get it, btw...

You look like Goofy scratching his head when trying to figure out elementary mathematics. I was pointing out your more “everyday/not-doing-elementary-mathematics” look.

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know there are 16 more weeks to try to get in "the tournament"

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

AFTER A WEEK ONE LOSS. YOU'RE REFERENCING THIS QUOTE:
I prefer to look past week one mistakes because I know championships aren’t won then. I know there are 16 more weeks to try to get in "the tournament"

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, sunshine, you made the statement following week 2

I know there are 16 more weeks to try to get in "the tournament"…
by jakezze01 on Sep 22, 2011 7:23 PM CDT

Perhaps you meant “knew there were 16 more weeks”?

Time waits for no man. Quit living in the past. What cliche do I select?

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, you're saying that your criticisms refer to his week two mistakes?

You’re saying he played like a “bonehead” in week 2, then?
Wow, dude. Maybe I was referring to the literal meaning of “hate” when it comes to you. He played like a hero week two, and you call him a “zero”?
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt there, and assumed you were referring to his week one play.
In which case, I KNOW there are SIXTEEN more weeks following WEEK ONE. I didn’t forget. I know. Not knew.

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Verbatim quotes please...

… of where and when I said he played like a “bonehead” (your wording) in week 1 or 2. Or ever.

Also of where and when I said “Tony Romo is a zero”.

Links, as I provided of your statements. Please. Thanks in advance.

Having difficulties, are we? Unable to gather the “evidence” to support your fanhodd judging? Shame.

You’d be amusing if you weren’t so pitifully inept.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 23, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse me, I apologize.

I stand mistaken. I mistook a reply from 5Blings and one you wrote. I apologize. You never said he played like a bonehead. Again, my mistake.

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

*as one you wrote

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

So please tell me, before I admit any more mistakes, which I am willing to do...

…who, exactly are you implying, if not Romo, when you share your definition of the word “zero”?
I have given evidence, even if your dense arrogance blinds you. You seem to be unwilling to answer ANY question which you do not propose yourself.
What I have cataloged are not knee-jerk reactions to plays as they happen in the game, mind you. They are two statements made post-game (post-game number TWO, as you pointed out), which I (regardless of whether you believe I have the right to do so or not) deem to be unbecoming of a fan. I will only harp on one, from now on. This one, to refresh your memory (taken from this very page):

ze·ro [zi(ə)rō], n:
1. In the eyes of some, a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities, yet has failed to win the season’s final game.

My interpretation, and please forgive me if I’m wrong, is that you are referring to Tony Romo here. The reason I think that is because the author of this piece used almost this exact device to portray TONY ROMO as a hero. It is evident by the fact the word “Romo” is cleverly hidden in the title of the piece (which reads, ‘Playing the Role of HEROmo’, in case you’ve forgotten). The author then illustrates his own (or may be borrowed, idk) definition of the term HERO, and then ties said definition to TONY ROMO. I’m 100% sure that you figured this out.
WHY THEN, would I assume something other than the fact that you are indicting Tony Romo as being a ‘zero?’
Let me put the the above referenced side-by-side so you can have a look for yourself:

This is what the author of the piece wrote:

he’ro: a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

Putting on a performance nothing short of heroic, Tony Romo led the Dallas Cowboys to a fantastic comeback win…

Seems straight forward to me. Tony Romo is the hero last week.

You wrote, in reply to this piece:

ze·ro [zi(ə)rō], n:
1. In the eyes of some, a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities, yet has failed to win the season’s final game.

So now tell me, finally, since you’ve ignored my question repeatedly, if this is not referring to Tony Romo, who is it referring to? You? Me? Charlie Sheen?
Something tells me you’re not going to answer this…again. And quite frankly, I no longer really care anymore. You took so much offense to an otherwise innocuous comment, and it’s really laughable. I mean, you went all the way out of your way to compare me to a Nazi, pictures and all! Or did I interpret that wrong too?
You sir, should try showing the same respect online, in public, wherever. A good place to start is to level the incline of your nose as it pertains to the horizon, so as to not appear to look down on everything.

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I referred to...

… and/or implied and imply no individual in making or stating that definition. That facetious definition in defiance of the attitude some people have about “having to win it all” in a material sense to be considered “great” or “worthy” or anything of the sort. Or even a “hero”.

If you fail to see the failure in human nature it brings to light, the emotional rush-to-judgment, the tendancy for people to misinterpret and improperly pass judgment, in so many ways, on their fellow Man, I can only hope you someday learn the lesson. If your own activites in this regard have not begun to fully illustrate it to you as yet, I can only hope one day they will.

I mock the whole hero/zero mindset. Have for some time. Will continue to do so.

Whether it’s Romo, White, Moon, Esiason, Marino or any of numerous other QBs or even players at other postions on a team, I’ll not be party to judging them unworthy or any less a “hero” in the sports-world sense than they remain. In my eyes.

And being as I consider the fan to be part of the team, as I’ve said in things I’ve written here at BTB, I’ll not judge them or their fanhood unworthy, “so-called” or them to be supposed “fans”, as some have. And yeah, I hope you recognize your words in there, because that’s what this is all about, not the nonsense, attempted insult (I’d have to care what you think of me to be insulted and I sure’s hell don’t after witnessing what kind of person you have shown yourself to be), BS and utter failure you have displayed in being unable to prove my fanhood to be some kind of Romo-bashing supposed “fan” thing for you to pass judgment on.

Your eyes may be, and obviously are, different in those regards.

I’m just thankful you targetted me and not someone else for your crapolla.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 24, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You obviously don't care.

I can tell by the novellas you write in response.

I call BS on your answer anyways. No one had mentioned anything about the distinction between a hero and zero. No one mentioned anything about winning the big game in order to be a hero. You seized the opportunity at a witty jab on our QB, which I don’t consider fan-like behavior. I wasn’t the only one to take it this way, either.
Even so, a simple answer to my original question would have spared us both a little time.

Please tell me, when did I target you?
I won’t wait on an answer, I know you’re not a fan of giving them unless someone’s asked a dozen times – and go ahead, use that statement too, as proof I can’t do simple math again…I also note your proficiency in changing the subject.

You chose to include yourself in the group of people I judge as less than stellar fans, who I have every right to complain about. You then copied and pasted your little threat that you give everyone before your squabbles, before you spent the next who-knows-how-many hours sifting through my posts so you could pull my words all out of context and use them as ammo in your crusade against me.

And yet here we are, and I still have the right to judge whatever I want to judge. Just as you have the right to include or exclude yourself from said judgments. Have a ball. And you’re welcome.

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW...

Since you pointed it out, and since I’m so willing to continue to oblige you in senseless, off-topic debates, I never once referenced time here, genius.
I simply stated (what should be) the obvious: there are 17 weeks in the season. Look close. You’ll figure it out.

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 24, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

1 + 16 = ???

I’m sure you can do the math, right? Now STFU about math. I know that’s what you do, distort and contort the argument to your liking…

by jakezze01 on Sep 23, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

For sure dude...

Who’d have thought a win against the niners would earn more respect than some of his others?

I think if anything, it should at least stop the questions if he is a leader or not. Will he win a Superbowl? I dunno.

I do know that is a tough son of a bitch and if I were his teammate it’d be damn tough not to follow a guy like that.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

by Iron Fist on Sep 19, 2011 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I think he knows his legacy is hanging in the balance of THIS season

As some have said, if they can’t see improvement from Tony and get more games like yesterday (and no more games like last week) I do think they will invest in a young QB in this draft.

The Trinity will support it.

You getting any sleep?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah...

he’s a good boy.

AFB Condensed- New name, same flavor.

by Iron Fist on Sep 20, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great!

A Romo praise post.

Residing on the BEast coast.

by DCyanks21 on Sep 19, 2011 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Is that sarcasm?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 19, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

I’m happy you made a Romo post. I never show sarcasm to intelligent posters. Most of the time.

Residing on the BEast coast.

by DCyanks21 on Sep 20, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW, thanks OCC

I know you worked your magic in the background.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Romo can get it together

All off-season before 2009, Romo promised to get his game together. And he did it. 2009 was a very good year for controlling the Bad Tony, and producing the Good Tony. Yeah, he ran into a buzz saw in the Vikings, but he really progressed.

Then came 2010. Was there anything that shined? Oh yeah, Tony did. He did pretty well even though the rest of the team was stinking it up. Then, well, came Micheal Boley. End season. Exit stage left. Game over.

So without really getting the structured preseason, and practice reps with Dez that he really needed, 2011 comes sweeping in like a hurricane. Tony takes the field and proceeds to whoop up on the Jets, and then the bottom falls out. He loses a fumble. Bad Tony. A punt gets blocked for a TD. So Tony comes out swinging. He hasn’t been in a 4th quarter forever. He forgets his promise when the adrenaline takes over. Bad Tony. But it was his first game back. It was while inexcusable, slightly understandable.

My message? Don’t forget what you promised us Bad Tony. Be Good Tony. Well, he reminded himself in that last pass against the Jets. Oh yeah, no more Bad Tony. This script has yet to be written.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 20, 2011 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Romo was 1-4, not 1-6.

Completion % – 69.5
TD’s – 11
Ints – 7
Passer Rating -94.9

Not exactly chopped liver. The only game he lost by more than 7 pts was the Texans game. Three of those interceptions were tipped passes. At least one came while he was getting slammed. He was sacked 7 times in those 5 games. Lest we forget, he completed the pass on the broken collar bone.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 20, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait
The only game he lost by more than 7 pts was the Texans game.

Didn’t we win the Texans game?……

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Sep 20, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

Guess I was just looking at the scores. Yes, we won that game. We didn’t lose by more than a td until we played the Jags. Kitna’s first start. That’s when it all began to unravel…well, except for the record was already bad. What I mean is we were competitive. Next week the blowout loss to Green Bay, then the Pillsbury Doughboy got fired.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait just a cotton-picking minute (I always wanted to say that!)

Kitna was 5-3.

Romo was 1-5 in games he started. That’s how the stat guys look at it.

Kitna was 4-5 and mcGee was 1-1.

I don’t understand how you could say it all started to unravel when Kitna came in. Again, we were 1-5 when he started his first game against Jacksonville. We then saw him shake off the rust and lead the team to some nice wins.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 21, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

That cotton-picking minute...

… sure stretches out to infinity after a long day under that there hot sun, massa Blings. Kinda like that Season of Woe (if ol’ Piney can moniker one, this, our Season of Hope/Nope battle just being underway, I can label the last one).

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Your regularly scheduled program has been preempted to bring you the following important message.

In honor of her recent web fame I bring you…….

I’ve always wanted to say that

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 21, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Say what?

You said somethin’…

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw her at restaurant in La Jolla with her mom

She IS that beautiful.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 22, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

How'd Mom look?

Glimpse the future.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 22, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plain

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 22, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm. Relevant question.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 23, 2011 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, I know you want to get into definitions and semantics. I'm sticking to my point.

1-6, 1-4, 1-5. I’ve heard 1-4, you wanna say 1-5 for the game he didn’t finish. Fine by me, I understand why you would. It’s probably the official NFL method. I think out here in Blogoland, you hear 1-4 more often. Those kind of debates don’t interest me.

Romo is 40-23. If you come back with 41-23 or 39-23, it really means nothing besides missing the point. I was as frustrated with Romo at the end of the Jets game as I’ve ever been…until I had time to think it through clearly, which was my original post.

I wasn’t frustrated with Romo last year. I’d had it with the HC and some of the other members of the team, because Tony was doing his job just fine. You want to question the word Shining? I’m not gonna answer that question because you know the definition of the word.

What he did against the 49ers may have surprised the rest of the world, but it didn’t surprise me, and it didn’t surprise you. That’s what you get with Tony Romo. My point was and is, that Tony made promises. He had a lapse in memory for about 7 minutes in the Jets game.

I think it’s enough to remind him for the long haul. Will he have another lapse? There’s never been a qb that didn’t throw picks. All I want to see is that he makes his best effort to control the Bad Tony every time he steps on the field.

I know he can do it because he’s already done it for an entire season. I think in his 9 picks in 2009, 3 of those came in one game. Tony Romo is not, nor has he ever been the reason this team hasn’t gone deep into the playoffs. Get the defense right. I mean really right. Get the offensive line right. I mean really right. Get the play calling right. I mean really right.

Do these things, and Romo will bring home the hardware. IMO he is the one constant on this team over the last 5 years, with the exception of a handful of bad games.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 21, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

…time to think it through clearly…

The key many miss, though not either of you and some others hereabouts. Present company aside. Feels like, well, that neighbourhood pub with the game on and in between, to borrow from a wiser man.

WW, on your comment: Yeah. Period. Other than I’d add one other name, with a second damn close behind, in terms of “constant on this team”. I think we three (there’s that pesky 3 again) know damn well who I mean. Both whos.

Funny thing, I’d wager this hope Romo’s given some, by their own admission, wasn’t given by him. Awoken, perhaps. Reawakened. And once someone, something, anything, has done that, there’s no undoing it. It’s there. Period. Just as it always was.

btw, the wiser? I mean as in has consumed more wisers and thus earned admission. Both of ya.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That one had me laughing while I was still half-asleep.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 22, 2011 5:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

FUNNY!!!

“If you need any ointment or anything”

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 22, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

But here is my question

If we don’t have a top shelf defense and Oline, can Romo be the reason WE DO make a deep playoff run?

I don’t care how you define shining. I just disagree that he shined last year. I think he put up similar numbers as Kitna did, only Kitna won more.

And yes, the records were pulled from pro football reference’s site.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 22, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I admit I can be pretty dense sometimes...

but it sounds like you’re trying to say Kitna is better than Romo.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 22, 2011 5:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, just that the team seemed to respond to him better than it did Romo

I’ve always found Kitna to be a little weird, personally.

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 22, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's the eyes

Tell ya this, tough to imagine Tony watching, gleaning that next step feel, from a more suitable source last season. Then again, maybe you both have bigger “better” imaginations than I got saddled with.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 22, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have no idea.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 22, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aye. None, Al.

Outstanding image outstanding. Still chuckling,
Recalling “Imagination is more important than knowledge

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 22, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I used to joke about him when he was in Cincy.

Now I find myself rooting for him. But he’s not Antonio Ramiro. Mr. Quick Release, I’m-gonna-wing-it- all-season-long-with-my eyes-closed. Life, full of unexpected turns and Belgian waffles.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 22, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

in the 6 games he played he,

completed 69.5% of his passes(148-213) for 1605 yards

had 11 TD’s and 7 INTs for a 94.0 Passer Rating

so if we extrapolate those over a season;

that is 384/576(66% completion) for 4280 yards with 29 TD’s and 18 INTs

that is top 5 production….

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? Yes, due to an "unfortunate accident" to the previous holder of the title.

by I am Ironman!!! on Sep 20, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

And a 3-15 record...I know, but that's what happens when you extrapolate

Was Kitna that big of a drop-off? He completed 65.7% of his passes with 16/12 TD-to-INT ratio.

And, if you extrapolate the records, Kitna would have had this team at or near .500 winning %.

This is why you cannot look at a QB’s stats in a vacuum because they, more than any other player, influence the outcome of the games.

Aikman’s numbers were seldom gaudy, but he won. A lot. Same goes for Roethlisberger. Dan Marino had huge numbers, but how many blings does he have to show for it? None.

I hope bigham reads this! :-)

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 21, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kitna, Good Tony, Bad Tony, whoever

What team were they part of? When?
Ho-hum. Or is that fee-fi-foe-fum

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I assume you're asking WW?

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

by 5Blings on Sep 21, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Assumption introduces error

Click “up”, refer to use of the word “shining”.
Consider both asked. Any and all asked.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to oblige ya (not really)

Both of you know what the word means. If you disagree with my assessment of Tony Romo last year, that’s cool. It’s just my opinion. I’ve been around both of you long enough to know you’re not going to change it. LOL

Let me just take all the ambiguity out of it for ya. Tony Romo was his old great self last year. 90% great, 10% I wanna kill ya. (Sounds like a marriage.) QB’s don’t win games. Teams do.

One of these days I’m gonna say something that both of you guys just agree with.

Well…that might be aiming kinda high.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

kinda?

How high’s that Star you aim at for never-never land?

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

That star hasn't been discovered yet.

Yeah, they said they could find it with this new kind of telescope. They project they’ll have the technology for the telescope in about a hundred years.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 22, 2011 5:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

What say...

… wee three stick around to see it? You two game? Got game enough?

Butt, if they’re wrong, WW, you ain’t gonna hear the end of it, you know that. Wait, you’d win then if we both got on ya, even in being wrong. Sly.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 22, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Precisely why...

I keep the cottage in….wait, I ain’t given up the location of my retreat.

Who are you? And how did you get in here?
I'm a locksmith..and..I'm a locksmith. -- Frank Drebin.

by White Wolf on Sep 22, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

likely?

provocateur’s likely’s next to Certainty.

Cry 'Havoc!'

by tanstaafl on Sep 21, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

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