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Dallas Cowboys Next Opponent: Video Review Of The Detroit Lions

Coming into the season, a lot of Dallas Cowboys fans like me were looking at the game against the Detroit Lions as a likely win. Now, the resurgent Lions at 3-0 are looking to be perhaps the biggest test for the Cowboys so far this year.

I watched the video of their game last Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings. If you aren't aware, the Lions came back from a 20-0 deficit to win the game 26-23. That was impressive, although the 0-3 Vikings have given up big leads in all three of their games so far. But the Lions certainly have some impressive weapons. Matthew Stafford is a big part of the story this year, and had a 108.8 QB rating in the Vikings game. His most potent deep target is WR Calvin Johnson, AKA Megatron. And TE Brandon Pettigrew led all receivers in the game with 112 yards.

Defensively, the beast in the middle is Ndamukong Suh. The Lions are also hoping to see first round draft pick Nick Fairley get his first action of the season. I also noticed some guy named Bobby Carpenter on the team. Don't know if he's any good, but he does have nice hair.

OK, enough of that. Here's what I saw in the game.

Star-divide

One thing I have to take into consideration watching this is that the Vikings are a very different team than Dallas. They play a 4-3 defensively and they have one of the best rushers in the game in Adrian Peterson. And although Donovan McNabb had a pretty good game, I think Tony Romo presents another set of problems entirely for them. There are certainly going to be some differences in how the Lions approach Dallas.

Lions Offense

The Lions predominantly use the shotgun, running 58 out of their 72 offensive plays this way (81%). Going under center was more of a change of pace. The team also uses very little motion and a limited number of sets.

Almost all the shotgun formations involved one TE in the normal position with one RB next to Stafford and three receivers split out, two on one side and one on the other. They flip the formation from left to right, but otherwise it is set up like that almost every time. When they do go under center they will use a single back or a standard I-formation almost exclusively. They did have a couple of plays with an end around or a fake end around, but most of the sets are pretty basic. What the coaches seem to do is use the route running and some talented receivers to create opportunities, not a bunch of shifts and movement.

One thing they did not have was a running game. The Vikings held them to 20 yards on 19 carries, which may explain the preference for the shotgun, since rushing wasn't doing anything for them. And the Minnesota front seven gave the offensive lines fits, with five sacks, nine tackles for a loss, and seven quarterback hits. Jared Allen got three sacks and two each of the other category. When I look at his performance, I think Rob Ryan has to be planning to send DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer after Stafford, especially with the anemic running game. He was vulnerable to pressure, although the Lions obviously made some adjustments at halftime to give him a little more time to work with. But the Ryan Chaos might give the Lions line fits. There were times the commentators talked about Stafford being off-rhythm, which often was because of the pressure.

However, Megatron, Pettigrew and RB Jahvid Best were able to get open a lot. If the pressure did not get to Stafford early, he was able to find his receivers and get the ball to them. The Detroit receiving corps is going to be a challenge for the Dallas secondary. Terence Newman and Mike Jenkins need to have good games, and the linebackers will have to cover the TEs and RBs coming out of the backfield. There were frequently five receivers in the pattern, and when they kept someone in to pass protect, they often snuck out into the flat. Stafford is pretty nimble and you have to get to him quick. This game may see some of Ryan's odd formations with extra DBs on the field to take away some of the passing lanes. A four man rush can certainly get into the backfield if the secondary can keep a target from coming open fast, and a three-man rush may do the job on occasion given the way the Detroit line was struggling.

One of the best plays of the night for the Lions was the first touchdown. With a first and 10 at the Vikings 32, they went into a rare two-back shotgun set with Calvin Johnson split wide right and another receiver wide left. The Vikings came with their basic four man rush, the extra backs bought some time, Johnson ran a steak down the sideline, and Stafford threw a pinpoint pass right to the pylon which Megatron went up and hauled in. If the Cowboys let that happen, it will be trouble.

Lions Defense

Just like the offense, the defense doesn't use much trickery. They just line up in their basic 4-3 and rely on Suh and company to try and overpower the offense.

Here was one area where the opponent dictated a lot of the scheme. When the Lions were expecting run, they would put eight and even nine into the box, bring a CB or S up in run support. It was moderately successful, holding AD to 78 yards. He was getting 4.5 a carry, so there is a question if the Vikings went away from him too soon, particularly on a 4th and 1 call at the Detroit 17 early in the fourth, when they gave the ball to Toby Gerhart who did not make the yard. One of the most effective running plays the Vikings had was a 39-yard end around to Percy Harvin. The Vikings caught the Lions with nine in the box and led Harvin with a running back who took out the only player that could have stopped him near the line of scrimmage. Their other long run was a patented AD run off right tackle for 43 yards. There did seem to be much more room going to the edges than going up the middle.

The Vikings also used several different sets, which seemed to give the Lions a little trouble. They scored a touchdown out of a diamond set, with one back (or receiver) directly behind McNabb under center and two backs or tight ends lined up directly behind the tackles about half way back. (I was going to try to include a screen shot, but the replay of the game is not available tonight for some reason). They only used the formation a few times.

As the game went on the Lions defense got better or the Vikings offense got worse. It was probably a little of both. They definitely bottled AD up as the game went on, which forced the Vikings to go to their passing game. This in turn allowed them to put in extra backs and play to stop the pass, while Suh and the rest of the front four still kept pressure on McNabb. There was also the emotional side of the game. Having already lost two games they had substantial leads in, the Vikings were getting tight as they saw it happening again.

Lions Special Teams

One of Minnesota's touchdowns was set up by a 53-yard punt return, with a facemask penalty thrown on top. The return came right up the middle. Minnesota had 250 yards total in returns to only 132 for Detroit. This is something that Dallas may be able to exploit.

To sum it all up, the Lions are a much improved football team. The defensive front four is strong, as are their receivers, and Stafford can be dangerous if you give him time. The offensive line has issues and can be penetrated, and they had no running game at all. The secondary did pretty well, especially when they knew the Vikings were going to throw. Linebackers were OK, not spectacular but not bad.

Dallas needs to get to Stafford and needs to have an answer for that pass rush. If they do, they certainly are capable of winning the game. But it is going to take a much better effort than last Monday. If they miss on a few snaps again, then I don't think Tony Romo will be able to continue with his magic act keeping the ball in his possession.

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If if if if Dallas' Oline can protect Romo

We will win. That’s a big if, don’t you think?

by torchindefenses on Sep 29, 2011 9:50 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

No.

that’s actually four pretty small ifs.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 29, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

lol

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!

by DCNation73 on Sep 29, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

HOLY CRAP.

I didn’t realize it’d be that big, my bad!

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that's some funny stuff right there.

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by Tom Ryle on Sep 29, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahahaha theres a rec....

just for the humor in it heheheh

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by demonbane on Sep 29, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude Seriously? lol

Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys

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by Antonio S on Sep 29, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

My bad!

Damn that’s a big “if”, literally and figuratively. I’m LOL’ing right now but I feel terrible, I didn’t know it was that big from google images, I just grabbed the first thing I saw.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's sad is that if doesn't ecompass

Just how big of an if the Cowboys O-Line is

by NYHorn on Sep 29, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

IF

And if a frog had wings it woulden’t bump its ass a’ hoppin!!

by Willy H on Sep 30, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

i look forward to the test this week & expect a great game.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!

by DCNation73 on Sep 29, 2011 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Listening to some other columnist and talking heads...

It’s clear they believe the Cowboys are the underdog and its all about how they won’t stop Megatron or Stafford.

Um don’t we have Romo, Dez, Witten, Felix, Ware, Lee, Spencer?

I’m not hearing much outside of BTB how the Lions O line will have significant trouble containing our front 7 and defensive scheme. Or how Dez even if just at 80% is also a matchup NIGHTMARE for any of the lions defenders. And witten just can’t be covered. Or how the Lions have a suspect rushing defense. I mean geez you would think the cowboys suck.

by CowboyWay on Sep 29, 2011 9:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Too much is being based off the game vs the Redskins

Obviously we need to improve but were not just going to lay down and let the Lions run all over us, Especially the way Rob Ryan has the D playing.

Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys

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by Antonio S on Sep 29, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I dnt understand it

by CowboyWay on Sep 29, 2011 10:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sort of

Romo is hurt, Dez is hurt, Witten is hurt, Felix is hurt.

Also, our line has been very shaky this season, and our secondary is banged up.

Full strength, I think it’s an even matchup, or slightly in the Cowboys favor. With our injuries, I think it’s in Detroit’s favor, on paper.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

the lipons werent overwhelmed by anybody they faced last year.

I think that people are actually underrating them they are building a serious contender, and have been killing drafts the last couple of years, I just hope we can find a to get out of the game with out any more injuries, The last thing we need is to get Romo injured more.

by Roy c on Sep 29, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think we, as Cowboys fans, are in any position to talk about 'overwhelming' anyone...

…yet.
Though, there isn’t much of a ceiling I see for our defense yet, either. Until we have a healthy defensive backfield, I don’t think there’s any way of knowing what Rob can/can’t do. If Bruce Carter can produce at all this year, whoa baby.
In that respect, my opinion is our team is better than Detroit, given healthy rosters on both sides, and slightly better than Detroit given the injuries.
I expect another tough game. Tougher even. Our guys better come out ready to play again, for sure.
This bye can’t come soon enough! haha

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by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

better being an underdog

it takes expectations off your back – you have less to lose.
if you lose – well, it’s no surprise, and anything else is an upgrade over that

by slowmotion80 on Sep 29, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

o kinda like the mediots to leave us out of their oh they are great speeches.........

i like being under the radar… thanks ! )

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by demonbane on Sep 29, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a different note:

Has anybody checked out Andre Holmes on our practice squad. He’s 6’4" 209 pounds and runs a 4.45. It would be great if we could develop him

by NYHorn on Sep 29, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

The Cowboys had him in for a pre-draft visit

www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/3/17/2056705/andre-who-cowboys-schedule-visit-with-wr-andre-holmes
www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/4/4/2089304/dallas-cowboys-draft-prospects-andre-holmes

[At the combine] he ran a 4.53 40, ran a strong three-cone drill in 6.69 and had the third best broad jump of all receivers. The small-school standout had a record-setting season in 2010, recording the most productive season of any wide receiver in the 119-year history of Hillsdale College football, setting school records for receptions (104), and receiving yards (1,368) and catching 11 touchdown passes in the process.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 29, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he can get a shot at the 53 man roster next year. Sounds like he has some talent. He’s probably already better than Ogletree :(

by Hatchetman337 on Sep 29, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere that there were people at Valley Ranch thinking Holmes could be called up this season. Unfortunately, I can’t find the link.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 29, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't see why not

If there are questions about depth. Ogltree needs to be shown the door and that would clear up a spot. Plus allow us to drop someone else on the PS.

The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Sep 29, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Breakdown....

I live in MN and one thing the media is talking about is how the Vikes are not a mentally tough team. They have given up huge leads each second half, and its almost if they are expecting something bad to happen,
I think after our last two wins our players are starting to expect that they will find a way to win. We need to score tds though. I dont think field goals is going to get the job done. And if I ever see Allan Ball lined up on CJ it will be very good for my fantasy team, but very bad for my Cowboys

by I Bleed Blue and Silver on Sep 29, 2011 10:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Funny, over at Pride of Detroit they say the opposite.

There was a long thread arguing with one of the BTBers over there that Minny was fighting with all their heart, but Washington just didn’t put as much into their game against us. It was really a strange take.

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by Tom Ryle on Sep 29, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care what they say, Washington played tough the whole way through

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by Specific on Sep 29, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Played so tough...

…they resorted to cheating! lol

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by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well its not exactly Billicheat level, more like sh!* happens in every game, depends if the refs call it or not

they attacked our OLine, did their best to take Witten out of the game… pretty tough

"Our guys are gonna be good, and we know it. So that ain't talkin'. That's just the (bleepin') way it is." - Rob Ryan
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by Specific on Sep 29, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I kid, I kid.

They played tough, indeed. I don’t mean to take anything away from their effort. It was a thriller.
How ’bout them Cowboys?!

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by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did they not see how much the refs screwed up?

Its like we had to beat the Redskins AND the refs as well

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by Antonio S on Sep 29, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

AND ourselves to boot

"Our guys are gonna be good, and we know it. So that ain't talkin'. That's just the (bleepin') way it is." - Rob Ryan
"There is a wide range of activities between a drunken rape festival and playing hide & seek in the woods." - Seanrude

by Specific on Sep 29, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah think that was me

it was on our own turf tho.. the guy made a comment about how important the game was for the vikings and i replied that we could say the same thing about the redskins. for some reason he decided to try and prove me wrong and not just say rivalries are cool. oh well.

by 1youngwiz on Sep 29, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Lions have caught us at just the right time

all the injuries are hard to overcome. Romo, Austin, Dez, Felix, Free, Witten, Nagy/Dockery, seven starters hurt on offense, is it no wonder the offense looks so out of sinc?

This offense averaged 29 points a game since Red took over, it is top 4 in the league when healthy, if we can come out of this game healthy we will come out of the bye a very good team.

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 29, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

I don’t think losing to the Lions hurts us that much really. We will be so much better coming out of the bye and it is not ike the rest of the NFC east is tearing it up.

If we win however… I think that would be huge…

MacGruber!

by Mojoness on Sep 29, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe, .....maybe not !

it would be best we didnt lose to the lions due to conference records and head to head for playoff slotting. this game may very well be VERY important in long run .

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by demonbane on Sep 29, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cowboys are the first passing O the Lions have faced.

We’ll see.

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by DIRE WOLF on Sep 29, 2011 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Vikings

You know when facing the vikings that you’re going to face AP, theres just no doubt. We can have a running attack but haven’t gotten it working very well this year. We are ranked 27th in yards per game while the Lions are 26th. Not a big difference there.

We really need to try and open up a running game.

The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Sep 29, 2011 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

That was the only game I was able to watch

Living in MN, they don’t like to offer much else.
Here’s the thing- MN should have won that game. They were so strong in the first half, but their coaching staff obviously doesn’t understand that when you have AP, you use him. The call to go to Toby on that 1yd run was flat out dumb. Nothing against Toby- he appears to be a solid back, but there is no way that AP doesn’t get that yard- when he gets his mind to get there, he does, and he had that look. Absolutely baffling call. That one failed attempt broke their backs.

by MNCowpoke on Sep 29, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

No way AP doesn't get that yard?

On that very drive AP was stuffed for -1 yards. Adrian Peterson was held to 1 yards or less nine times against Detroit.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

opinion obviously

true anyone running straight into that pile would have a high chance of being stuffed. However- same formation, AP would not have simply run straight into the pile- there was plenty of room to the outside iirc, and it would have been exploited. Regardless, it was a horrible play call that destroyed the Vikes chances.
But whateverevery games a play or 2 from a win, right?

by MNCowpoke on Sep 29, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

TBH

The correct play at that time was to just kick the field goal. The quibbling about who should have ran it is moot — honestly, if Gerhart had gotten the yard it would have been a genius move because the D would have been “distracted” by the misdirection from AP, but that doesn’t change the fact that Leslie Frazier should have stood his ground and put his FG team out there. Going for it on fourth in that situation is showing a sincere lack of faith in your defense.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our toughest test of the season defensively

hope we pass it or it could get ugly.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Sep 29, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

I dont think so

i think the only way it gets ugly is if we continue with the injury bug, if healthy we are going to be a good football team.

by Musiccitynorm on Sep 29, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Patriots are the toughest test of the season DEFENSIVELY?

I don’t know whether to laugh or feel insulted.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh yeah i thought it was offensively

however still you aren’t the thoughest on defense

by ratware on Sep 29, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to what, exactly?

Second ranked defense by football outsiders, lowest success rate on runs against our D from advanced NFL stats, third fewest points given up, sixth fewest yards given up, third in redzone defense… none of your opponents thus far have been better. You can argue all you want about who we’ve faced, but you are what your record says and the stats back it up.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

For someone who likes to whip out the

“it’s still early in the season” argument all the time, you sure do like your early season stat lines against (so far they can be called) weak teams, no?

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by jakezze01 on Sep 30, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if you're attempting to make a definitive statement about a team.

You could do it (as you guys prefer to) off strength of victory. That’s very logical, considering your opponents are what, 6-3? Versus our 2-7 opponents. But when you consider both of our 0-3 teams have lost to good teams (SD, Detroit, TB, Bills) and your opponents have been beating up on bad teams (ARI, SEA, CIN, JAX), it’s a bit dishonest to use strength of victory after three weeks. We can’t help our opponent’s schedules any more than you can help yours, what matters is how you win, and that brings us to…

Stats! Which favors both of our teams in their own regard. He made the statement that we aren’t the toughest on defense; well, as of right now we are. You are, likewise, the toughest on defense that we’ve faced, which I’m sure you’re all aware of.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 30, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Bobby...

Anyone know how much he has been playing in the games this year and how he has looked?

Wonder if him and Romo are going to hand out the night before the game.

I have no hard feelings against the guy, but it would be sweet to see someone run him over at least once come Sunday.

Go Cowboys.....Go White Sox.....

by goat3000 on Sep 29, 2011 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Barbie played five defensive snaps in three games so far for the Lions. But he’s been in on special teams, even recording two ST tackles against the Vikings.

The Star-Telegram just did a piece on him.

by One.Cool.Customer on Sep 29, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes...

Not much going on these days with the former first rounder I guess…

Not to harp on Bobby here but did Big Bill ever explain what happened with this pick / player?

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by goat3000 on Sep 29, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be interesting to hear what he was thinking.

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by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

he has the measurables

his dad played in the NFL

what else can you say? He’s big and runs fast… no particular reason he’s so bad at block shedding

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by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I only just right now

realized that your nickname is Austonian, and not Australian. I used to read your posts with an Aussie accent in my head. Crikey. Blimey.

by Joey2zs on Sep 29, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think our pass rush will do just fine in the game

I think it’s the Lions who should be more worrying about their QB not finishing the game than us.

by Sean N on Sep 29, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm impressed!

That’s, I think, the first Cowboys fan who has implied that Stafford might get injured in this game. That makes every team so far think they’re capable of breaking Dr. James Anderson’s magnum opus — the bionic arm.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

We don't aim to hurt anyone on purpose

We definitely don’t change our plays in Pre-Season to Regular-Season, our DL plays Hard and plays Clean in the Pre and regular season…unlike you know who…

by thejanusman on Sep 29, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

DeMarcus Ware?

2006 against Jon Kitna? Picked him up and slammed him down? Just saying, if you think you’ve got a bunch of saints on defense, you’re lying to yourself. I’m done trying to defend Suh, if you think he’s dirty then you can keep thinking he’s dirty all you want to.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I already defended Suh in the other thread.

If you want to continue to think he’s dirty, then you can think he’s dirty. It doesn’t change the facts. Claiming that the Lions aim to hurt anyone on purpose is absurd, we’re not the Redskins.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

i dont think Suh is dirty, he just plays a violent game.

Which I wish Ware did. Ware doesn’t hit like a James Harrison or a clay Matthews.

D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL

by salas88 on Sep 29, 2011 11:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

True enough

Probably his only drawback… Man if we had Suh????

(faints)

MacGruber!

by Mojoness on Sep 29, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

And then used it to beat on Grossman

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by Tom Ryle on Sep 29, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i guess im not much on trying to defend any player....

figuring , if its that big a deal, hell….. they can defend themselves loil

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by demonbane on Sep 29, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

He, has, several, times, and so has players he’s played against.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not saying I want him hurt, of course I don't

but he’s going to be facing a pretty good pass rush and he doesn’t exactly have teh best history of staying healthy.

by Sean N on Sep 29, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Lions cannot run the ball

Its no secret, however, the passing attack is deadly like the Packers last year who won without a running game. I don’t think it really matters if we don’t have a 1,000 yard rusher this season, I expect at least a couple guys with a 1,000 yards receiving though.

The Lions defend the pass better than the run, so if Romo tries to play the Lions game that actually falls in our favor. With all of the injuries the Cowboys have, its imperative that they don’t fall behind too much too early or they won’t be able to catch back up. Lions can score pretty quickly when needed.

Dallas’ main strengths are their pass rushing linebackers and Romo’s ability to make plays on the fly. Lions main strengths are their front-4 and Stafford’s ability to make all of the throws when needed. Its kind of a wash in terms of talent vs talent, but this will definitely be the hardest team each team has faced thus far.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 10:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

The Lions have faced 3 of the 11 worst passing attacks in the league

after being a putrid pass defense last year. Obviously a lot can change for a team in one year, but that is the reason we don’t auto-heap the praise on the Lions improvement. Always have to factor in the competition this early in a campaign.

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by KD Drummond on Sep 29, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I think ^

They haven’t faced a passing O this year. We’ll see.

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by DIRE WOLF on Sep 29, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our defense wasn't bullet-proof last year

Worst in club history… But I get what you are saying.

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by Mojoness on Sep 29, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Were have surely improved though

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by Antonio S on Sep 29, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

But who says they haven’t same as us?

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by Mojoness on Sep 29, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

The main differences

Are the upgraded linebacker corps and the corner we added in the offseason. We were starting linebackers last year (Zack Follet, Julian Peterson, and Landon Johnson) that aren’t even in the NFL anymore. Chris Houston, Alphonso Smith were new to the scheme and Amari Spievey was in a new scheme and position as a rookie last year. It was also hard because Delmas and Levy were banged up for most the season.

This season, we added more muscle to an already impressive front four with the addition of DT Nick Fairley, who by all accounts should be a force once he’s healthy. Free agents LB’s Stephen Tulloch and Justin Durant are young, fast, and huge uprgrades over last years players. Tulloch is a beast over the middle and Durant is the run stuffer. They alongside DeAndre Levy make up a pretty good unit there.

The secondary didn’t change a whole lot, adding Eric Wright and resigning Chris Houston was the right decision though. Houston was our best cornerback last year and already has 2 picks in 3 games. Wright is solid in coverage and can aid in run support. Louie Delmas for some reason has been relatively quiet, but opposing teams aren’t throwing a whole lot in his direction. He is nicknamed “The Guided Missle” for a good reason and can lay a good tackle on anybody. Amari Speivey has an interception, pass defelection and a sack in just 3 games and is showing how good he can be in just his first full season as a safety.

As much as people make our back-7 out to be such a weakness, its anything but a slouch. Have a dominant front-4 makes them appear less talented than they really are, but we have a pretty good defense this year. I wouldn’t be so sure its going to be easy to run all over them either because once the Lions make the right adjustments, all of a sudden the offense can’t run the ball and is forced to pass, which is the Lions meal ticket. Its gonna be interesting for sure.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 12:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

is alphonso smith starting?

I hope so bc that guy was hot trash..

by lostar2009 on Sep 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well we haven't run the ball that well with the exception

of the skins game. So I am not assuming anything.

I will say I think it will be a low scoring close fought game. Both defenses will fair well. (this is true of all our games this year and by the matchups should be true again)

It may come down to special teams.

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by Mojoness on Sep 29, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easy to say when there's no way to go but up! lol

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by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

no disrespect to the lions

Cause I think their a much better, much improved team from past years and will be a great challenge on Sunday for our COWBOYS but their is no way you can compare your offense right now to a packers offense of last year.

by LAL*LAD on Sep 29, 2011 11:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

agreed !
this will definitely be the hardest team each team has faced thus far.

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by demonbane on Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take care, dude. If anyone here brings up the Cowboys' injuries, they're accused of

making excuses. Seriously, good post, and I agree that for each team, this should be the toughest competition so far.

by Fernie67 on Sep 29, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sean Lee

Just found out Sean Lee is the Cowboys’ first NFC Defensive Player of the Month in club history. That is bad ass, but how could it be that Ware never won that award.

by Mighty Blue Star on Sep 29, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Same way Harrison was picked over Ware for DPOY

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by Antonio S on Sep 29, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why is anyone making the Lions out to be a "big test"?

Simple and 1 dimensional offense and a defense that has weaknesses in the middle and backend. They’re a good team, but let’s not make them better than they are…

by CaliFanInTx on Sep 29, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

We're better than every team you've faced.

And I’d love to hear how you define weaknesses in the middle and back-end of the defense. Would absolutely love that.

Because at the moment, the only person making a team sound better than they are is you, and the team in question isn’t the Cowboys. =p

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rather is* not isn't.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh?

Was it the Lions in the AFC championship game the last two years?

by BigDumbFace on Sep 29, 2011 12:09 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well, no because the Lions are a NFC team

So that would be impossible.

Are you a Jets fan? Because if you are, I’m not sure what business you have here. This is a Cowboy blog for Cowboy fans and Lions fans are here because our teams play Sunday. Not understanding the purpose for your comment.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

C'mon.

The Jets are better than the Lions. That’s the point I was making. Just because y’all put together 3 good games doesn’t mean your better than a team that’s been to the AFC title game the past two years.

I know the Lions are in the NFC, and I’m a Cowboys fan. Alright.

by BigDumbFace on Sep 29, 2011 12:35 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

well, if thats the case

Than Kansas City and Tampa Bay are better than us too right because they went 10-6 last year? What you do or don’t do in the past has nothing to do with future. Every year is different and you guys would all agree that the 2011 Cowboys are better than the 2010 Cowboys right?

That’s how us Lion fans feel too.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 12:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I understand.

But you sort of support what I was saying. Sure, the Cheifs and Bucs did well last year, which is saying more than the 3 good games the Lions have had. The Cheifs and Bucs look not so good this year.. see what I’m saying?

The Jets didn’t just have one good year, or 3 good games. They made it to the title game two years in a row. That does give them the right to say they are better until proven otherwise. 3 games isn’t proof.

by BigDumbFace on Sep 29, 2011 12:54 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Got ya

This discussion can go both ways, we are both right. I’m so excited for this game, a true testament for both teams. Stafford will be playing in front of his family and friends from Texas and I’m sure he’ll want to put on a show with Megatron.

Good luck Sunday and let’s hope for some good clean injury free football for both teams.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Indeed.

Should be exciting to watch. Good luck to you as well.

by BigDumbFace on Sep 29, 2011 2:40 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

What about the Bucs looks "not so good"

They’ve won the majority of their games so far. Did I use that statement intentionally to sound silly? Dang right. THREE GAMES HAVE BEEN PLAYED. No one can draw conclusions on how good a team will be this season just yet. However, the Lions are 3-0, desperate to continue prove people wrong, and have a QB who will be playing in Texas for the first time in his career. Meanwhile, megatron as quiet as he is is likely to blow up all over Cris Carter’s record. The point is, that based on the circumstances and the way the Lions have played so far THIS season, its easy to make an argument that they’re the toughest challenge the Cowboys have faced this season.

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by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

How can you be so sure you're better than anyone we've faced...b/c of your 3-0 record?

If the Cowboys weren’t so beat up…this wouldn’t even be a game…it’s fortunate for you that you’re catching us at the right time…

by CaliFanInTx on Sep 29, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its like the old saying goes

“You are what your record says you are.”

’Nuff said.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 12:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

So if we lose this game, would you let slide a...

…“WE ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE” moment post-game? lol

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by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

Gotta love that Denny Green rant. It was a classic.

Though nothing will ever beat the Playoffs?!? rant by Jim Mora. Absolutely hilarious.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know as a Lion's fan...you guys aren't used to being treated as much more than an afterthought...

…but have some dignity…don’t get so happy over 3 wins…at least make it to the playoffs before you come on to another team’s blog and thump your chest…it’s called a reality check.

by CaliFanInTx on Sep 29, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

we'll let the team do the thumpin for us Cali

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by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well if that is the case, then the Lions have played 3 very weak teams

The Lions have won against 3 teams that have a 2 and 7 record. That is pretty much just beating the bottom of the pile in the NFL. So far the Cowboys have played teams with a combined record of 6 and 3. That would seem to tell us that the Cowboys games and wins have come against quality opponents and not those in the suck for Luck sweepstakes.

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by Birddog26 on Sep 29, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

who pissed in your guys cheerios today?

So what if us Lions fans are excited about a 3-0 start? We have been suffering for a long time as fans of this team. Its not just the 3-0 start, we aren’t naive, its the overall quality of our team that has us giddy. We didn’t get the chance to grow up watching our team win superbowls or watch guys like Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman throws td passes and win championships. We aren’t bragging to you guys like we won something, we are just pretty confident that Dallas won’t wipe the floor with us like seasons past.

You guy have to understand, we haven’t been to the playoffs since 1999, we have ZER0 superbowl appearences, 1 probowl qb since 1958, 1 playoff win in 54 years, and were a few years removed from 0-16. If you guys had to endure what we had to endure, you too would be ecstatic to finally have what appears to be a legitimate NFL team with a chance to be great, maybe even this year.

So, pardon our enthusiasm, but we are fairly confident that the Cowboys are just as worried about playing us as everybody else is.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 4:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Hold the phone bud

You guys should be excited with where you are. But do not throw 3 games up there against crappy teams. Throw up some very good performance for what you have done the end of last year and the first 3 games of this year. You guys are doing great.
Do not think this is an easy game. We both match up well on both sides of the ball. You can throw up on offense Stafford. Jorhnson and Petogrew and we can come back with Romo, Dez and and Witten. On defense you can serve up Suh and we can come back with Ware.
We both should know this game will come down to the OLine and who protects the QB the best.
This is going to be one hell of a game. Cowboys are rising back to the top and Detroit is shooting up like a valcano. It is two very good teams going into this game. A big test for both but a stepping stone for both to the playoffs.

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by Birddog26 on Sep 29, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Longest active winning streak in the league right now?

Wins over the superbowl champs, and a potential wild card last season? You’re right. We should be walking around with our tails between our legs.

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by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't read anywhere in the post you replied to that you should have your tail between your leg.

Touchy group, these Lions fans. Especially considering they put themselves over here. Sheish.
The Lions are good. Happy?
I truly believe that. I’m not just saying it, before you find some way to take offense to that too, Boourns.
I will reiterate, because you obviously either didn’t read or don’t comprehend what Birddog26 was saying: You guys are good (that’s twice in one post in case you’re keeping count). But before we anoint you guys “the toughest challenge we faced so far this year”, otherwise known as “better than the Jets (or arguably the Redskins for that matter)”, we would like to see some stats THIS YEAR against some quality opponents. Tampa Bay, KC, and the Vikings are not solid teams, and I don’t see any fault in this opinion. Obviously time will tell on this.
That said, I wouldn’t rank any of those three teams ahead of the Cowboys.
I would rank the Jets over the Lions.
Therefore, by logic, I am inclined to say that we will be your teams’ biggest challenge so far this year, even given the small sample size. I would also be inclined to say that, since my opinion is that the Jets are better than the Lions, your team is not the toughest challenge we’ve faced this year so far, even given the small sample size. You’re a close second, imo, and will still be a challenge.
I’m looking forward to a tough, injury-free, hard-fought games between two young teams on the up-and-up. Good luck.

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by jakezze01 on Sep 30, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Taking 3 teams and their 3 week records and combining them to try and claim that all 3 teams are weak is pointless

We could have beaten Patriots, the Jets, or any other team that is 2-1 along with the Vikings and the Chiefs and you’d still conclude that all 3 teams are weak?

Next thing you’ll tell me is that the Lions are pathetic because they didn’t score in one full half of football out of 6. OH MAN!!!! 17% of the halves the Lions have played so far they’ve scored ZERO POINTS!!!!!

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by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Because you've faced the 49ers, who you barely beat

Who’ve beaten all of the Bengals and the Seahawks. You beat up on a Redskins team that, let’s face it, isn’t scaring anybody. And you lost to the Jets who laid a smack down on Jacksonville (woo), and got handled by the Raiders. The Jets defensive strength is stopping the run and DMC ran it down their throats, and everyone knows how good the Jets offense is doing this year.

You can scapegoat how the Jets were good or will be good again, but as of right now we are your toughest opponent this year.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

You’re right Mav, their argument is the same as ours. Weak opponents in the first 3 weeks and they lost to a Jets team that I think the Lions could beat.

They haven’t done much since that last superbowl win and we haven’t even been to a superbowl. Talent is equal for both teams, but their injury problems could be the difference in them winning or losing.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 10:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lions are Legit

They have an eleven game winning streak, 4 to end last year, 4 in the preseason and 3 this year.

by Mighty Blue Star on Sep 29, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pre season don't mean chit.

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by DIRE WOLF on Sep 29, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I wish people would stop saying that meaningless “statistic.”

I much prefer the more meaningful statistics like 2nd in time of possession, 1st in plays of 20+ yards (on defense), 3rd in passer rating, 3rd in opponent’s passer ratnig, highest turnover differential in the league, first in touchdowns allowed per game, third in red zone defense, fifth in fumble recovery percentage, sixth in red zone offense, seventh in sack rate, eighth in punts per score, zero points allowed in third quarters (first in the league)…

You know, stuff like that. :)

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a good stat

about the Lions being #1 on def for plays of 20+ yards because the Cowboys offense I believe is number 1 in plays of 20+ yards, it will be interesting to see if we can get a few big plays this week, it would be alot easier if we had Austin, but we will have to make do.

by Roy c on Sep 29, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Another good stat: the combined records of Lions' opponents is a putrid 2-7.

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by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well considering all of our opponents got a loss from us.

That’s really more of a 2-4 record if you want to be honest about it. It’s still early in the season, our wins have combined for a full 33% of our opponent’s schedule.

You are what your record says you are. We’ve beaten everybody we’ve faced and we’ve looked good doing it. We’ve played in three fashions of game (a blowout, a come-from-behind, and a wire to wire fight), we’ve handled adversity. Our three opponents last year combined for 0.500 and we had the third hardest pre-season strength of schedule. I find it comedic how you can cry the Jets are better than us because of what they did last year and then become a prisoner of the moment about who we’re facing this year.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it hilarious you bring up...

preseason strength of schedule?
That, and the fact that you’re putting words in my mouth. All I said was that when you combine your opponents’ records together, you’re left with 2-7. It’s a fact.
I never once mentioned last year, unlike a lot of you Lions fans who are fond of doing here on our threads.
I agree, you have to play who you’re scheduled to play. You’ve been scheduled to play your opening three games against teams who are inferior to my Cowboys, imo. Their record shows it.
And I am being honest about it. Your opponents’ combined record is a putrid 2-7. Our opponents’ combined record is 6-3. If you want to call it 2-4, fine. Then ours has been 5-1. We’ve also faced a stout AFC team that has been in the AFC Championship game the last two years running. That’s clearly a good football team. They’ve clearly proven more than our two teams put together over the last couple of years. Yes, the Jets ARE better than the Lions, even though I never said that in my one sentence post above, I will say it now. JETS > LIONS. All Day.
But chalk it up however you like – look at this year, last year, the year before. I wasn’t doing that.
The fact of the matter is, the opponents that we have faced have been better than the opponents you’ve faced. Period.
I love the Lions fans’ confidence right now. I LOVE it. I’m prepared for a tough game. I’m giving you guys all the credit in the world. Look at my post history. I praise you guys for what you’ve done a lot.
I just hope that you’re team doesn’t discredit us, like a lot of you fans are doing. I have a feeling that if they do, they’re going to be in for a very rude awakening.

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by jakezze01 on Sep 30, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

The opponents you've faced have been beating up on bad (bottom half of the league) opponents.

Our opponents have been losing to good (top half of the league) opponents. The most definitive conclusion you can draw from that at week 3 is that we’ve both faced middle of the pack teams, nothing more, nothing less. “You are what your record says you are” counts for how YOUR team is doing, not what your opponents are. And both of our teams are doing well, statistically and in wins.

I haven’t discredited you at all. I’ve made it very clear I consider you our toughest opponent to date, as well you should consider us. And I, likewise, hope your team doesn’t discredit us like a lot of you fans are doing. I really, really hope that your team considers us easier than the Jets.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 30, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth....

Some guys on here wanted Dallas to sign Bob Sanders in the off season, he’s on IR in SD. Last four years, 12 games played. That’s sad.

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by DIRE WOLF on Sep 29, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Every game is a big test for us.

We havent won a game by more than 3 pts since the last time we played the Lions, but its a different team. If we come in and put the Lions away than I will beleive both that we are better tahn I thought and that maybe I am a little too high on the Lions, but I really see this being a loss for us.

by Roy c on Sep 29, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

the trend of close games continues...

I see it as a 30-27 game one way or the other.

by wtshaolin on Sep 29, 2011 11:32 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

One thing is for sure

We will get to see two of the best defensive players in the game going against bad olines with good qbs to protect. I will have a knot in my stomach every time Romo drops back and im sure the Lions fan might have the same feeling for Stafford.

by Roy c on Sep 29, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I expect to see more roll outs than normal to help with Suh

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by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lions aren't very good at rushing the ball

and Mathew Stafford has a history of missing seasons…. and we lead the league in sacks… hmmmmmm

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by AustonianAggie on Sep 29, 2011 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

The Cowboys have injuries everywhere

Their offensive line hasn’t played very well and their starting qb is hurt with a rib injury. He was injured most of last year and is facing a top-5 d-line this year without his number 1 receiver.

Really don’t think the Cowboys have any edge over us outside of homefield advantage. Stafford is 100% healthy and Romo isn’t, Stafford has Calvin Johnson and Romo has a banged up Dez Bryant, Stafford has thrown at least 2 touchdowns in all three games, Romo hasn’t.

It really could go either way, no team has that much of an edge over the other. These are 2 evenly matched teams right here.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 12:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Like I said earlier...
If the Cowboys weren’t so beat up…this wouldn’t even be a game…it’s fortunate for you that you’re catching us at the right time…

by CaliFanInTx on Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You go ahead and keep thinking that.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will too.

Your buddy even said it himself:

Talent is equal for both teams, but their [Cowboys’] injury problems could be the difference in them winning or losing.
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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 11:23 PM EDT via mobile

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by jakezze01 on Sep 30, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, my buddy said it himself.

That our talent is EQUAL. As in, not “this wouldn’t even be a game.”

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by Mavyrk on Sep 30, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't call you much of a Cowboys fan if you wouldn't.

Rep your team, good for you.

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by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to give you Lions fans some credit

Win 3 games and you’re all up in people’s faces on other teams blogs.

by Sean N on Sep 29, 2011 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Its not our fault

That we like to discuss football with other team’s fans. Its the beauty of the game and I don’t see how we’re up in your face over a computer monitor.

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by DLions4Eva on Sep 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Have you been to the Booty Lounge?

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by DIRE WOLF on Sep 29, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just giving as good as you guys give it

I actually think the Lions are pretty good this year and could get to the playoffs and do some real damage. But usually I don’t see other teams fans coming over here defending their team like this.

by Sean N on Sep 29, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair.

We’ve done this for all three opponents prior to you too. You’re not special in that regard, but after a long season we’ve been hankering for talking smack.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give them a break

The young ’uns have never experienced this before. They are walking in rarefied air. They have as much experience being 0-16 as 3-0. They grew up living in the Matt Millen era. This is new to them.

..., Longhorns, and Spurs - all undefeated in 2011-12.

by hookerhome on Sep 29, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

lets show some class guys, and respect, they are 3-0 for one reason.

D-Ware= sack master
rated as the # 1 pass rusher in the NFL

by salas88 on Sep 29, 2011 12:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Their first game was against KC

Who as of today has scored a grand total of 23 points and allowed over 100 points scored on them.

The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Sep 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

2nd game

no berry or charles i believe

by 1youngwiz on Sep 29, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

well said...

as long as people from other teams are here chatting with respect, there isn’t a problem, so it is that those of us who do reside here ,are held to the same code.

woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS !

by demonbane on Sep 29, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No disrespect to any Lions fans...

…but I lol’d @:

They have as much experience being 0-16 as 3-0

Only because there’s truth in there…sorry…
That said, they will be a tough opponent this year. I hope for a clean, evenly officiated, injury-less, hard-fought game that ends in a Dallas victory.

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Sep 29, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cute.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Up in your face?

Like DLions4Eva says, we come here not to get up in your face but to talk football with the fans of a team we’re about to play who obviously know their team better than we do.

Think of it like this: http://www.plazacuba.com/baseball.html

Like passionate Cuban baseball fans, we (or at least I can speak for myself and probably Mavryk) are most interested in engaging in meaningful, intelligent, debate over our respective teams. And I’d like to commend the majority of BtB for reciprocating.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

But you're not really interested in debate or talking football.

You just want to tell us how good you think your team is. Lions fans like the Lions; we get it.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 30, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

All you guys seem to want to tell us is that the Lions aren't as good as we think they are

so it would stand to reason that that is all we’re talking about.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, not interested.

You troll other teams’ message boards. If that’s your gig, so be it. Just be honest about what you’re doing.

Unless you’re going to tell me that if the Cowboys win, you will admit you were wrong, state that without equivocation the Cowboys are the better team, and you will henceforth direct your efforts to trolling Cowboys’ opponents’ message boards to herald the mighty Cowboys, then you are just here trolling for your team.

by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 30, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you guys win.

I will come here and congratulate you for it, yes. Kinda did that already last year, just so we’re clear that my credit’s good. =p

And, likewise, I would expect you guys to be good sports in the case that we win.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 30, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

lookin forward to the game...

i think we’ve got a good chance to surprise these guys.

learned some things tho. they seem to be pretty basic on both sides of the ball. no tricks. no gimmicks. just trying to line up and win one-on-one battles.

thanks for the info. cool article…

"They need security in the world, Craig!"

by Tuna Helper on Sep 29, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Less anxiety

after your post Tom. Seems to me that victory begins with our D (surprise,surprise, currently #1 in the league – yardage) shutting down their weak running game then head hunt Stafford over, around, and through their soft O-line. Ware gets 3 sacks, team gets 5. They score 17 or less. Romo’s offense and Bailey put up 24 plus.

" Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. "
Samuel Beckett

by stubabe on Sep 29, 2011 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

who cares how many yards you give up?

its about the score. You could be #1 in the league in yards per game but still give up 28 points every week because your offense can’t hold onto the ball or isn’t putting together any drives resulting in shorter fields for the opposing team.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lions fan here, been posting here and there so yah all might have figured that out

But anyways, me and my bro do a podcast about the Lions, each week we do a pregame one where we really try to focus on the other team, to help our fans learn about them and know what to expect during the game, well anyways, if any of you are interested in listening to a show that is a little over an hour long, with two Lions fans talking about the upcoming game in Dallas, then here goes.

http://twobros.podbean.com/2011/09/29/week-4-lions-vs-cowboys-preview/

Ndamukong Suh - Bringing 50's football back to Motown!

by Evilsmurf on Sep 29, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

no you will fanshot it

check out our guidelines thats not a fanpost

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Sep 29, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoa

this is like a scene from minority report

by 1youngwiz on Sep 29, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahhahaha

Awesome

Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player

by thebigham on Sep 29, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I had a nickle...

For every superbowl the Lions have won, I"d have zero nickles. Settle down Lions fans. We are happy you are 3 and 0. Its a loooong season.

by I Bleed Blue and Silver on Sep 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

We're not running our mouths this week any more or less than we have the past 3 weeks

we’re just confident in our young team. Even if they lose this week, we’ll go into week 5 against the Bears confident that the Lions can bounce back.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell, I appreciate...

…our visitors this week. At least they aren’t trash-talking morons like we mostly get.

Good luck to y’all.

by danielt on Sep 29, 2011 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

My bold, and only, prediction for this game.

Dallas’s 9 game “close game streak” will end this Sunday, in either direction.

"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson

by Mavyrk on Sep 29, 2011 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I originally had this as the Lions first loss

But the more I look at the situation, its harder for me to decide. – want to pick the Lions, but it just seems like this would be the most likely game to lose because they will not lose to the Bears on Monday Night. There’s too much at stake for the Lions to not win.

I’m going Dallas but its a 1 score game until the end and Dallas’ defense shows up big in the 4th quarter.

From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!

by DLions4Eva on Sep 30, 2011 12:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

DLions and Mavryk

I am picking the Cowboys for the win. Not just because I have been a fan since #14 was our starting QB, (Look it up) but because I think we are tougher and have more talent even with our injuries. Having said that, I think you should be very happy with the way the Lions have transformed themselves as a franchise. The Lions future looks very bright and I hope that you guys will have a very competitve team for many years, and maybe someday go to the Big Game, (unless you have to go through us first!!).

 I hope for a very good, injury free game for both teams Sunday that the Cowboys will win
24-14. And if you guys win, I will be one of the first to come here to congratulate you, very grudgelingly, of course!LOL

 Thank you both for showing some class and respect while visiting. Good Luck Sunday.

by Willy H on Sep 30, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Willy H, I respectfully disagree with you regarding your opinion of talent between the two teams

If you have the time before the game, I’d love to hear your thoughts on how the Cowboys with their current injuries still have more talent than the Lions currently available roster.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Sep 30, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

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