For Tony Romo, Criticism & Pressure Will End Only With A Super Bowl
by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2011 8:00 AM CDT
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PrintIn all my time as a Dallas Cowboys fan I don't think I can ever recall such a polarizing player as Tony Romo has become. It's amazing to me when I talk to Cowboys fans around Dallas, around Texas and around the United States that when the subject of Romo comes up, the majority seem to get frustrated and state how they don't feel the Cowboys will ever do anything significant with him as the quarterback of the team. Generally, it's the first thing that is mentioned after a mutual love of the Cowboys is discovered.
When I ask this person why they feel this way, the answer is usually non-committal. "I don't know, it's just a feeling I have," is a good way to sum up the responses. "I just don't think he takes the game seriously," is another.
These are the most prevalent thoughts in the heads of the everyday Dallas Cowboys fans, the ones who don't obsess over the team on a day in and day out basis and who sit in the stands during games and wonder why Terrell Owens doesn't get another shot in Dallas (these people exist, believe me). These are the people who buy the jerseys, who spend money on merchandise and tickets to games and the ones that make this team the most popular organization in the NFL.
Above all, these are the people that want nothing more than to win and for most of them, time is running out on the life of Tony Romo as the quarterback of this team. What's incredible to learn is that the everyday fan is not the only one with this opinion; in fact, there are several national media types who are starting to beat the "is this the final shot for Romo" drum.
This is when my blood begins to boil and I start to wonder two things, "Do people really think Tony Romo is the only thing holding this team back? Do they even remember the time before 2006?"
Last week, as it normally happens around the Cowboys as a new season approaches, articles were written about Tony Romo and his shortcomings as a quarterback and whether he could finally lead the Dallas Cowboys to glory. Troy Aikman chimed in as well, with Rich Gannon and Babe Laufenberg joining the party. Here's a rundown of the festivities:
Last week, Jon Sacaceno of USA Today penned a piece entitled "Cowboys' Romo seeks career moment", which brought up all of the shortcomings of Romo's career -- including the Cowboys record of 1-3 in the postseason since he became the starting quarterback in 2006. There were two very interesting quotes in the article, including Rich Gannon saying that Romo needs to be more demanding of his teammates and Babe Laufenberg stating that Romo does not project himself properly as a competitive quarterback.
The article, of course, mentions how Romo has been labeled throughout his career as a quarterback incapable of taking "that next step" -- winning in the postseason and leading his team to the Super Bowl. It also mentions the perception that Romo doesn't care about winning, based on the fact that he dated a celebrity and plays golf.
Around the same time, Troy Aikman went on the air on the radio around Dallas and amidst some very interesting comments about Skip Bayless laid down this gauntlet about this season for the Dallas Cowboys:
"It's a group that's been together for a while and I just don't think you can plan on keeping this core together, which they've been able to do. If they don't do it this year, I think it's going to be hard for them to move forward."
Those comments led the ESPN First Take team -- not the most respectable show, I know -- to start debating the points that Aikman made. This, of course, led to the debate as to whether this all boiled down to Tony Romo and whether this season was his one final shot.
Since then, debates have started anew as to whether Tony Romo is on the hot seat. Apparently, Jason Garrett is as well, and this season has suddenly turned into a "make it or break it" season where unless this team makes it at least to the NFC Championship Game, then obviously all hope is lost and Jerry Jones needs to wipe the slate clean and start fresh. Obviously, the Dallas Cowboys have no breathing room whatsoever and who cares what the plan for the future might be, they must win and win now and if not then why not just blow the whole thing up?
I'll leave the debate about Jason Garrett and his plans for this team to another debate. That's an entirely separate discussion but I think there are some very salient connections to how fans and the media feel about Tony Romo, and his legacy as a Dallas Cowboys quarterback and the pressures that rest on his shoulders.
All of this starts with the perception of the NFL quarterback in general. Other than starting pitchers in baseball and goaltenders in hockey, no other position in sports has a team's win-loss record tied directly to a player's performance. When talking about quarterbacks, the media and fans will refer to how many wins and losses a player might have as a starter and how their teams have fared in the regular season and the playoffs.
What's interesting, however, is that this is not an official statistic for the position. If you go to Tony Romo's NFL.com profile page, you're not going to find his win-loss record as a starter. Nor with any other position in football. This is because the quarterback, while inherently vital to a team's success, is not the lone factor in whether a team wins or loses -- just like any linebacker, kicker, offensive lineman or safety.
Yet a quarterback's win-loss record is cited endlessly during games and by the media and fans. This is something that's held against Tony Romo as well, noting that his teams are just 1-3 in the postseason. This record, apparently, is what is holding Romo back from being "truly great" and from adding his name to the list of all-time great quarterbacks who have ever taken the field in the NFL. This rationalization is insanely flawed, however.
Think back to those three losses in the playoffs. A loss in Seattle that had fumbles by receivers, a conservative offensive game plan and a defense that failed to stop the Seahawks after the botched field goal when there was still plenty of time on the clock. The loss to the Giants was due to a leaky defense and horrendously bad special teams, as well as an offensive line incapable of staying onsides or being able to stop a ferocious pass rush. Against Minnesota, an overly-confident football team failed in every single area of the football game -- I don't care if Tony Romo played a perfect game, there was no way the Cowboys were going to win.
Those three losses in the postseason hurt, especially the loss in 2007 to the Giants. Yet that 1-3 record will never be attached to DeMarcus Ware -- who is apparently untouchable and can never do any wrong, despite playing on the same defenses that fell apart in those three games. That 1-3 record will never go against Jason Witten, who is arguably just as integral to the success of this team as anyone else.
Perhaps an elite, Peyton-Manning-level quarterback would have been able to win those games. I don't doubt that Manning, who is likely to go down as the best quarterback to ever play the game, would have been able to do a bit more than Tony Romo. This is an argument that is actually made in some circles, that if only the Cowboys had a quarterback like Manning or Brady or Rodgers then things would be different.
There are about 25 teams across the NFL that feel the exact same way. There should be absolutely no shame in having a quarterback that isn't on the same level as two of the best players to ever play the game. What that rationalization is, however, is a lazy excuse to ignore the rest of the team and the rest of the shortcomings of these Dallas Cowboys over the years and lay it all on Tony Romo's shoulders.
The fact is that quarterbacks always have been and always will be judged based on the success of the teams they play for. With the exception of a few, teams generally will never find their way to the Super Bowl with a bad quarterback under center. There's just no way a team can be that successful with a bad player at that position. Of course, the same could be said for many other positions on the field as well and if you look at the championship teams over the past two decades I bet you'll find teams that are full of great players who all came together with one goal and played tremendously -- as a team.
Is Tony Romo a perfect quarterback? No, he isn't. There's never going to be any argument from me that Romo isn't frustrating as hell at times. What I do know, however, is that Romo has put this team in a position to win more consistently than any other quarterback that played for this team from about 1997 to 2006. During that time, the Cowboys employed Quincy Carter, Drew Bledsoe, Ryan Leaf, Drew Henson, Clint Stoerner, and many others at quarterback. Troy Aikman was under center for a number of those bad years as well.
In fact, Aikman is a perfect example of how it takes more than just a great quarterback to be successful. By the time 1996 rolled around, the Cowboys were falling apart and Aikman's numbers fell off precipitously. His completion percentage fell below 60% and the Cowboys struggled overall as a team. There was plenty of criticism going around, some of it pointed at Aikman, but the fact remains that he received a bit of a free pass then and now because of the successes of the team in the early '90's.
Imagine how different Romo's legacy would be if the Cowboys defense and special teams hadn't imploded against the Giants in 2007? How different things might be if Patrick Crayton didn't mentally self destruct during two crucial plays. Factors out of Romo's control, yet still held against him for the rest of his career.
For all the importance of the NFL quarterback, the fact remains that it's the success of the team as a whole that determines the wins and the losses. Peyton Manning (9-10 record in postseason, by the way) never would have won that Super Bowl against the Chicago Bears if the Colts defense didn't suddenly decide to play stout against the run. Eli Manning has a miraculous catch by David Tyree to thank, otherwise he's known as the Quarterback Who Made The Most Boneheaded Throw Ever In Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers had an incredible defense and a suddenly potent offensive line. Ben Roethlisberger has the incredible finger tip catches of Santonio Holmes and some poor officiating to thank for the rings on his fingers.
All of these quarterbacks are tremendous and some are the best in the NFL right now. Yet they all were able to win based not just on their own great play, but on the great play of the rest of their team as well. This all circles back to the pressure that now rests on Tony Romo's shoulders -- apparently -- for this specific season, how if the Cowboys don't find deep postseason success then perhaps it's time to start thinking about moving on.
Now, no team will ever be successful without great quarterback play. Tony Romo does need to play the best football of his career this season for the Cowboys to exceed expectations of what some feel will be a mediocre season for this team. At the same time, however, it's not all on Romo's shoulders. This defense needs to find a way to stop teams from scoring points -- something that didn't happen last season -- and the kicking game needs to find some sort of solution.
To put forth the notion that it's all on Tony Romo, however, is absurd. What is interesting about the argument is that everyone turns to non-quantifiable evidence that he just doesn't have what it takes to get it done. That he isn't vocal enough for the team to really be successful, that he doesn't grab a face mask enough and give a teammate a stern talking to. That he wears his hat backwards, which obviously means he doesn't care and therefore won't ever be good enough. You know who else wears his hat backwards?
Yeah, that guy. The Super Bowl MVP.
Other than the argument that he commits too many turnovers, there is no real evidence that Romo can't get it done if he too has a great team around him. Even that argument is outdated, as over the past three years Romo has vigorously worked to improve his turnover numbers. Unknown to many, I'm certain, is the fact that despite fumbling the ball a staggering 32 times in his first 39 games Romo has fumbled just six times in the past 22 games -- including none in 2010.
There's an argument about his emotions, about his ability to get fired up on the sideline like every other great "field general". The fact that this just isn't Romo's personality will never matter, because people want to see visual evidence of leadership; just witness the reaction to Jon Kitna last season when people came to the conclusion that he was a better quarterback than Romo because he leapt around and yelled a lot more.
Never mind the fact that Romo was once that guy as well, the smiling and fun-loving quarterback that inspired his teammates with his enthusiasm and love of the game. After that didn't work however, suddenly what made Romo so likable and great is what makes him so frustrating -- and you could see this pressure to no longer have fun affect his play on the field. Fortunately, as Romo has grown older and matured as a person so has his approach to football.
If anyone ever questions his desire to win and his leadership on the field, just direct them to a couple of videos of Romo mic'd up during a game -- like last year's loss to the New York Giants.
The truth remains that no matter what is argued, fair or unfair, Tony Romo is going to be judged based on the success of the Dallas Cowboys as a whole. Even though it is clear the team is entering into a bit of an uncertain year with the team keeping a close on building for the future, the pressure is going to be squarely on his shoulders to produce some postseason success.
For many people, this means that Romo will have to find a way to do it all by himself -- for him to pick this team up and carry it on his shoulders, despite evidence to the contrary that even the best quarterbacks in the game need a great team around them. Cowboys fans, forever locked into an all-or-nothing mentality, will settle for nothing less than absolute glory and if that glory is not found soon -- then it will all be Tony Romo's fault.
What's unfortunate is that this Dallas Cowboys team, undergoing some significant change by head coach Jason Garrett, is likely a year or two out from likely being able to really compete for a serious playoff run. Too much fat had to be trimmed from the disappointments of the Wade Phillips years and Garrett is going to need some time to mold this team to his liking. During that time, Romo will be getting older and the pressure on him to bring glory back to Dallas will be ever-present.
He knows this, however, and he accepts it. So do his teammates:
"There is a chip (on his shoulder) - absolutely," Witten says. "He wants to play at a high level, not just (be remembered) for a hot streak for a couple of years. He does not welcome criticism. But he accepts it. At the end of the day, it is all about whether he can win a championship. Until that happens, he will be criticized across the board."
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Rec'd,great post!! I deal with Romo hate daily,as my friend is from Madison,Wis.
The main thing I can say about Tony Romo is that when he is in the game,the Cowboys are in the game.He always seems to have this team in a position to win.IMHO this is the stat people should look at !! The Cowboys can get on a run this season and win some games they are not supposed to win,get some momentum going,they are capable of winning it all. The “D” we saw in preseason is not the “D” we will see vs the Jets.And it is the “D” that is the question.If they can put it together early enough,who knows!! Romo Rules!!! Cowboys Rule!!!
40yr fan who loves his Lord and Savior,Beautiful Wife,kids and 2 Pits,America,and Americas Team.
Searching for at least 2 more Super Bowl wins and more kool-aid.
Totally excited about new coaches and this teams future.
by NVCowboy4Life on Sep 6, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great post.
I’ll never forget how many people were saying. “Manning will never be the greatest, he just doesn’t have what it takes to win the big one.” For a guy who had to score 35pts a game to overcome his ridiculous defense, he took a LOT of blame. Tom Brady and the pats (awesome D) Big Ben and Steelers(Awesome D) Rodgers and pack last year(awesome D) Eli Manning and Giants (Awesome D). I’m not saying that your D has to be AWESOME to win a superbowl. But BOY does it help!
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Sep 6, 2011 8:12 AM CDT reply actions
its a proven fact that in the playoffs the highest win percentage comes with having a good defense and a solid running game
if you can’t stop people and you can’t run out the clock then you have little to no chance to win it…
Green Bay peaked at just the right time and were fortunate to play teams that had weak pass defenses….their playoff draw worked to their advantage
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions
this is not a proven fact
The data actually say that Passing the Ball and Stopping the Pass are most highly correlated with victory. Teams that are built around “running and defense” (think the Rex Ryan Jets) have not won a Super Bowl since the Trent Dilfer Ravens. And that was a historically great defense.
hmmm...maybe it was true back in the day then...
I can remember that being one of the focal points about getting to the playoffs and winning on thru…..passing gets you there, while being able to control the clock and preventing the other team from establishing the run were the most important thing…its why when the colts finally were able to stop the run all of a sudden in the playoffs that they were able to win it all….
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I've heard (but can't name specifics)
that a strong passing attack, combined with an average run game is statistically the best, though I would say the ’07 Giants and the Steelers were stronger on run than pass, and certainly powerful on defense.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Steelers are a passing team since Bettis retired. That was 6 years ago.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Ever since Wisenhunt left...
They’ve been a passing team.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
'07 Gnats won by passing. And stopping Pats' passing .
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
I'm not talking about Running the ball. In today's NFL you have to pass it.
I’m talking about the fact that when you have a VERY solid D behind you, you tend not to press…. AND you tend to get more opportunities with the ball, while still having the lead or being close.
Everyday I feel a little better about the way this team is being run.
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Sep 6, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't think it will ever change that Defense wins championships.
Even when the Colts won, their D played really well during the playoffs.
Wish you were here
and sorry i stated it as a proven fact without going over the stats....little too arrogant of me...
just remember that being the biggest two areas of need once you get to the playoffs…having a good defense is paramount while being able to move the ball consistently thru one method or the other would prob have been a better way of saying it…
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
How many SB have the Pats won since...
McGinnest, Brewsky, Vrabel, Seymour, etc, have left the team?
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how many super bowls have they won since the league took their videos away
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL. Good point.
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Well done Sir...fantastic article....
you coined my thoughts exactly about the perception of Romo….Rec’d and then some
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It's the Romo Paradox...
On the one hand, Tony is light years ahead of our other QBs from 2000-2006. His very presence on the team gives us hope.
On the other hand, our hopes have been built up every year he has been the starter, and I would argue that four of those five years have ended with abject disappointment.
Let me give you a hypothetical this year: say the ‘Boys go 9-7 this year and miss the playoffs. Say that Romo is Romo…some great games missed in with a few stinkers against some good teams. If that happens, and I pray that it doesn’t, we will be looking at one playoff win in six years of the Romo era. Yes, it’s not all (or not even mostly) on the QB, but we may be in the same position as the Packers were with Favre after about 1999: he was good enough to make them competitive, but he had weaknesses that limited their ceiling. They drafted a QB in the first round, then made the highly controversial decision to jettison Favre three years later.
If we don’t make the playoffs this year, I’d argue we’re in that same position. Romo is my favorite NFL player by a great margin, and I think he’s a great human being. We’re not going to replace him with Jake Delhomme next year, but if we don’t get it done, I advocate drafting a first round QB next year.
name a stinker he has laid against a good team...
OCC’s numbers speak otherwise….he is usually at his best against teams that are deemed to be good….
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Philadelphia Eagless 44. Dallas Cowboys 6.
The game where he was crying in the shower.
The game where he came to the podium a completely beaten man.
The game where I said this guy is not a leader.
oh yeah...the game when he was playing with cracked ribs.....
try again…..you lay down a 44-6 score Its not just the QB that lays the egg….
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 7, 2011 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Romo's biggest fans don't play fairly.
They ask you to point out specific games or instances where he either played poorly or made crucial errors, then when you do, they blame everyone else on the team and create excuses. I’m a Romo fan, too, but recognize that he still has to improve if the Cowboys want to win it all.
It’s games like the Eagles playoff game where people forget how close to disaster we were. Right after the Eagles got the long TD, Romo panics and throws a HORRIBLE pass deep in our territory that luckily barely touched the ground instead of resulting in an interception. If that play doesn’t get overturned, we’re looking at a very different game.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Other games against good teams where he played poorly:
2009 Vikings playoff loss, against the Packers earlier that year.
2008 Steelers and Ravens plus 44-6
2007 Giants playoff loss
2006 Giants, Eagles, Saints, plus playoff fumble.
Did other players play poorly in these games as well? Yes, surely. But we’re talking about Romo. Should Romo’s career be defined by these games? Probably not, but it’s up to him to create the moments that better define him.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions
wow, 5 games in 6 years
I can name about 10-12 games in Manning’s career that he played just as bad…….no qb is perfect
In Romo we Trust
Those were just good teams that he played poorly against.
And you might want to work on your counting skills. That’s 9 in 4 years, and I forgot to include another Giants game, so 10. No QB is perfect, including Romo. The question was for a poor game against good teams, implying that he hasn’t had any. I named 10 in 4 years.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
dude
are you kidding me lol. in 4 years you name a handful of games he played bad in. He has won many games where we was tied barley ahead or barley behind. That throw your talking about wasnt a horrible pass as much as it probably was a miscue. when the team got pants 44-6 and 34-3 romo as far as im concerned was
A. running for his life out there
B. The only one on the team really trying to make something happen witch im sure you will blame on his leadership.
anytime you get blown out like that its a complete team collapse not a qb collapse like romo had against the jets a couple weeks ago. Sure romo has his ups and downs but he has more 4th quarter comebacks while behind or tied the roders (10-18) to rodgers 5-18. every qb has his ups and downs like 6 days ago he played with a broken rib and a collapsed lung and came back from 10 down to win in overtime. now if that isnt impressive enough to make up for a few bad games i dont know what is. We down have aikmen of the 90’s anymore but we have a top 10 qb in my opinion probably 5th or 6th in the league.
by Ronald Brody on Sep 25, 2011 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I got news for you, drafting a qb in the first rd isn't getting us to the SB any quicker
The team needs to improve defensively before this team can win the SB no matter who is playing qb.
For that reason, drafting a CB or safety or even DE makes much more sense than drafting a qb who won’t see the field for 3-4 years.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 6, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
if RR can get us up to average we will be competitive in every game this year.....
give him more toys next year and watch heads roll
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
good points, BUT
Romo hasn’t had too many stinkers since that Giants game in 2009. Hes been a consistently good qb, with flashes of greatness.
Before 2009, I would say he was an inconsistant qb who had more more great games but also struggled against great Ds (Eagles every winter, Baltimore & Pitt).
True.
Too bad the team melted down last year, because it looked like Romo had finally reached a point where he could overcome whatever else might be happening with his teammates and play well himself. I think that was a lesson learned from the Eagles playoff victory and Vikings playoff loss.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling your offense is going to explode this year.
Question: I was trying to get Romo in my fantasy league. Unfortunatly, he was drafted super early, so I wound up getting Dez Bryant. What are you guys expecting from him this year? Should I plan on starting him every week in a 12-man PPR?
watch the matchups...first week could be dicey depending on which cb he draws....revis or cromartie
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Okay thanks! I have Sidney Rice, Lee Evans and Hakeem Nicks as well, so I’ll keep that in mind.
I think Nicks and Bryant will start most weeks.
watch out for evans tho...you play 2 or 3 wr and a flex?
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Nicks Dez are must starts every week until they prove otherwise
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
thats why i was asking if he had 2 or 3..nicks and dez def start but evans might be better option than a RB/WR or a TE/WR
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m a little weak at flex but have McCoy, McFadden, Nicks, Bryant and Finley as my starters with Stafford.
Hopefully, I’ll be okay playing the match-ups with Rice, Evans and Collie as my flex.
That’s what I figured, but I must admit that I haven’t watched alot of Bryant.
That’s why I’m trying to get the opinions of those who are in the know.
Dez is a Beast
If Manning comes back and Collie stays healthy, he will put up good numbers.
Evans should do well in a better Offense than he had in Buffalo. Having Boldin on the other side should really help him out.
We play 2 WR and a RB/WR flex.
I think I’m going to chance Bryant week one and hope they put Revis on Austin.
they might put revis on bryant since bryant is healthy and austin is coming off injury...
str to str weakness to weakness
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
course wouldn't it be great to find out that austin really hasn't been hurt this whole time and first play from scrimmage is a fly pattern for 80 yards...lol
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
They put Revis on Mason and Cromartie on Boldin when we played them last year in the opener.
I though for sure they would put Revis on Boldin. Boldin wound up having a huge game.
does revis play slot too? or just outside?
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Revis plays everywhere
he shadows the top wideout and will play left, right and slot. occasionally he’ll play slot/safety like Woody used to.
He is an animal like no other.
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exactly
thats why I think Revis is pound for pound the best player in the NFL
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Bryant has a chance to make a mark in this league if he burns Crow on nationial tv
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
he will definitely do that Sunday night
I would think he would make his mark more convincingly by burning Revis.
In Romo we Trust
other than that i think he is ap to get about 70+ receptions 1000+ yards and 8+ TD's
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
depends who hes playing
i have him but i dont start him weekly its all about matchups in fantasy. Expect romo to have about 10 300+ yard games this year… it wouldnt surprise me at all.
by Ronald Brody on Sep 25, 2011 3:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I love how Romo asked if they caught the pass when he was laying on the ground hurt.
great vid
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This single moment made me really believe in him as a QB
When I saw that, I shut out all the criticism about him. He wants to win every time he gets on the field and you can see it in his face. He doesn’t have to display in the predictable expected way but he delivers. People too often forget that this is a team sport.
There have been many moments for me
But it was the shot of him trying to get back in the game and they had to grab him to stop him.
That my friend is heart.
"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo
for me, it was the Giants game in 2008
When he probably had internal injuries and still played great ball and led us to a win against a team that mutilated him and behind a line that let rushers go free multiple times.
If you wouldn't have said "Giants game in 2008"
I would have thought you were talking about almost every career start Romo has had.
Great stuff!
I hope this gets picked up elsewhere. Just tickle this for an automatic reprint every 6 months.
I think it's a compliment
they dont make these arguements about medicore QB’s. We heard the same stuff about S Young, B Favre, and P Manning. Nobody is going to write these articles about M Cassell or C Henne. When a QB gets blamed because his team can’t or hasn’t gotten over the hump it’s because they know he has the talent to do so.
if romo was the QB of any other team than the cowboys they would be saying how that team was competitive every year becuz he was on the team....
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I just stop talking football with people who can't admit Romo is a top 6 QB or Ill give them a benefit of the doubt(haterade) if they say top 10
Romo IS Elite. No doubt.. I agree with everything you said Brandon.
This offense will surprise a lot of people (not us of course) and they will of course say I always knew blah blah.
Romo MVP 2011
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
maybe not mvp..but comeback player of the year
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Romo 4500yds 30+TD 13INT Games 16 GS 15 (week 17 rest)
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No No No
Romo is my QB on my fantasy team and we play through week 17.
by youpokedthebear on Sep 6, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
well your commish should change that
No league should play week 17
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ever... that defeats the purpose of the entire season
when 1/2 of the leagues best players aren’t suiting up for an entire game.
man, that would piss me off.
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Just have it locked up before Week 17
I agree, it is nice to play only when you know starters are going to suit up for a full game, but if you lock it up a couple weeks early, it won’t matter.
The only thing I Worry about is not having someone to replace Romo when hangs up the cleats
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Only clueless fans put all the blame and responsibility on Romo
Knowledgeable fans know that football is a team game and that the QB can’t win games all by himself. Brady, Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger and Rodgers would have never lead their teams to SB victories without very good defenses. Brees didn’t have a great defense, but they generated TOs and that’s actually better than forcing teams to punt.
QBs are only one piece to championship teams, to think you only need a great QB to win a SB is simply moronic.
Bottom line is that Romo will own every single passing record in Cowboys history by the time he decides to retire and the team’s success will be determined by how well the defense improves.
It’s definitely not Romo’s fault he isn’t playing on teams as good as Aikman’s and Staubach’s, those QBs were great but certainly played with great defenses as well. Unfortunately Romo never had that.
I do know one thing for sure, fans and even the haters will appreciate Romo much more after he retires because the chances of being successful after he retires won’t be good, at least for awhile.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Sep 6, 2011 8:42 AM CDT reply actions 9 recs
Dont it always seam to go, you dont know what ya got till its gone
No doubt! Tony is underrated by most every one around the league. But his numbers tell another tale! Im glad we have Tony at the helm this year and I hope, for a while to come . Tony is exciting to watch and the jersey I alternate with Ware for my game day garb. Let RR D hold up their end and Tony will more than do his share to get the Cowboys deep into the playoffs.(But then with you Terry im preaching to the choir!)
Holy Crap Terry
That has to be the longest post I have ever seen you type. I just gotta Rec that!
And also agree 1000%
"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo
Haha
I like being the final rec to make things blue green. I can’t resist this!
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It Should Be Blue
Green gives me the creeps right about now.
"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo
Especially if the team takes your approach and won't consider it ever time to use a high draft pick on the next starting QB
I do know one thing for sure, fans and even the haters will appreciate Romo much more after he retires because the chances of being successful after he retires won’t be good, at least for awhile.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The defense needs first round picks much more right now
Cowboys will have a franchise qb playing at high level for at least 4-5 more years….defense isn’t even playing an a mediocre level yet.
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You may be right
Romo is good enough to win, I’ve never argued that point. He isn’t elite, but he’s good enough. So accepting your premise that he’s got 4-5 yrs left, it makes perfect sense to use a high pick in the next year or 2 on his replacement.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Similar mindsets get clued in to positional depth challenges, QB included. Eventually.
Not about the D likely having priority next draft, but the complacency at a “guaranteed” position. No such thing, that “guarantee”. Road to ruin.
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I never said quarantee
but unless Romo has a career ending injury, the defensive talent needs a bigger talent upgrade over the next few drafts
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Notice the "priority next draft"
plus it doesn’t require career-ending, just dings impacting number of games overall and when over the 4-5 year span you mentioned.
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First Round Draft picks at QB historical data
Are they really worth it?
In an article written some years ago now the stats have changed but reality what it is… your odds of hitting on a Number 1 pick at QB are just shy of 1/5 so if you pick 5 straight number 1 picks at QB you will get one good QB out of the 5 and the rest will fall below expectations. This is a general statistic of the number 1 picks since 1967-2008 now you will have a couple more make this list as they mature later but how many of the 4 quarterbacks drafted first this year will make it. Now of course 25 of 86 number 1 draft picks made it to the big game and of those games had a 29-16 record over all. Some going mulitple times. So am I going to throw my team under a bus for a first round pick a QB or look for a good QB that has all the skills and I can get him in the lower rounds and he isn’t going to cost me an arm or leg just to watch him screw up in the exact same way as a Ryan Leaf or Quincy Carter might. If you did some research on this subject you might find that it’s not always in the best interest of a team to draft a QB first and since Tom Brady was a 7th round pick and Breeze a 2nd rounder you can even find some good one’s in the later rounds. JMHO
RexP
Very good point Terry
I think another simple way to ask the question is – if we exchanged Romo with Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Brady or any of the other “best” quarterbacks in the league would that get us to the Superbowl faster? I for one don’t think it would…
Bluslh!t
“… the team’s success will be determined by how well the defense improves”
No it won’t. It’ll be determined by how well they perform as a team. All phases, all players. Period.
Jeez, quit making excuses, allocating blame, deifying One. Grasp team. Grok it. You seem to sometimes, then veer off course again.
Cry 'Havoc!'
by tanstaafl on Sep 6, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They may. They can. They've the tools.
Hope they do. Play their gameplan, enforce their will, more often than not. Not be forced into a reactionary strategy. Need to see their tactics succeeding to determine JG’s grand design.
While you’re talking, responding, would like to ask: Do you think I’m pro-Romo or con-Romo? These Romo-based threads get your emotions up, you talking, so I’m curious, is all. Because, despite what you might think, I don’t comment to you to bug you, harass you, poke you (cowpoke, that is), more just to see what you, a die-hard, optimistic, hero-worshipping homer think (and none of those adjectives is meant with offense or slight. You just support your favorites, team and player(s), by what I see).
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I know this questions wasn't directed at me, but I'll take a shot . . . .
You are Pro-Romo. Although, not to the extreme others are. YOu manage to stay pretty impartial, even though you are a Cowboys fan.
I try to be the same way, but when confronted with Romo hatred, I tend to revert back to defending him tirelessly. We are slowly fixing the problems with this team, I just hope it is before Romo is done . . . . I truly believe he has what it takes to get the job done.
Thanks for that
While I was hoping ot get the BTB-acknowledged outlier in Romo-love to make his call on my stance, I appreciate yours too. And I’ll use your compliment, the “manage to stay pretty impartial”, as my opening to say what I wouldve had he. Plus, thank you again, because that’s about the biggest compliment a sports fan can get in my book.
Why do I have to be either? Within the BTB and Cowboys fans brotherhoods, and outside them, why not accept and try to see the good and the bad, the up and downsides, the whole? When confronted with invalid or ignorant (in the sense of lacking knowledge) assessments, go pro or con as the circumstance warrants. When there’s no credence, rhyme or reason to the taunts, merely provocation, give as good as ya get. Better even. And smile while doing so.
Then again, this’s coming from a guy that was pro on QC as Cowboys QB while he was as much as he was con on QC as a QB while he was. Inside and outside the fraternity.
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Tony will always be underrated until he wins a SB.
Wish you were here
Not this coming year, but the year after I would consider putting at most a 2nd round pick in a QB (MAYBE a late 1st)
That’s because I’m not sold on McGee at all as a starter (career backup, IMO). Then groom the new guy for 2-3 years behind Tony and Stephen.
I recall people saying the same thing about Danny White after he took over for Staubach
even though he led the team to three NFC title games. It wasn’t his fault that the FO could no longer draft talent like they had once done. Got to have talent around you on both sides of the ball to win.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
absolutely, our defense was aging and not as good when White took over
If White had really good defenses, like the kind Staubach had in the 70s, he would own at least one SB.
In Romo we Trust
white had good players but maybe not a good enough team....what was the biggest hole that those 80 teams had?
for all the talk about everson walls and downs, plus the defensive line, I don’t really recall much talk about linebackers….
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
White and Jones were about the Dlineman that could get pressure somewhat consistently
but the LB corp had slipped quite a bit since the late 70’s due to age, retirements, and lack of drafting talent.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
not to mention the secondary wasn't that good
Thurman’s Thieves could pick off some passes, but they gave up a bunch of big plays…most notably “The Catch”
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Don't even get me started on that one
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Or subsequently... when good offenses rise to the occasion. Even ST's if they get their shot.
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Now, to reverse course, pull the ol' switcherooo...
And revert to being… – Just. Plain. Wrong.
‘cuz hell’ll freeze over if we agree. So you be right, I’ll handle wro… – left.
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What? You took a trip into an alternate timeline and saw this, did ya?
Sheesh. Didn’t happen.
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You saw, with your own eyes, Danny White win a SB?
With any D like Staubach played with? They played and won a SB together? And you saw it? Astonishing.
Wait a sec, was that the timeline where Jerry never bought the Cowboys? Or the one where Tony never made the team? Both of which find us replacing the Raiders as, well, you know…
Now, seriously, yes the teams were different and White doesn’t get the credit he deserves, even among some Cowboys fans, but c’mon, if you don’t win the title it sure’s hell’s nobody’s to bestow by choice or even acclamation. You have to win it. That’s what the game’s about, in the W/L sense, not the broader virtue-of-sports sense. It’s why the score’s kept. Winning. Not handing out prizes to every kid that plays.
Ya gotta earn it, hunger for it, fight for it. More than the other guy. And beat him to the top of the mountain.
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No, I saw White's defenses play bad in the playoffs
If he didn’t put up a lot of points, we weren’t winning the game…Staubach didn’t always have to do that
In Romo we Trust
So, once again, we're back to...
… win as a team, lose as a team. Play as a team. All a guy can do is play his best for and with the team he’s on. On this, I know we agree.
One correction: “If he we didn’t put up a lot of points, we weren’t winning the game”
This being an individual-minded species and conceptualizing being in harmony with others often leads to those little gaffs. Team. A difficult concept.
Sooo, about this squad and this, what’s his name again, this Romo fella, you figure they got this team thing figured, maybe do something this season…
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Maybe not quite as good but still SB Calliber
White had one problem that you didn’t have with Staubach … no mobility and if you look back at those games when you pressured him he fell apart. My main problem with Danny was his durability… he took some vicious hits for sure but when he got to the NFC Championship game he fell apart not once but 3 times… and at a time when he had some quality players in many of the possitions. I would have rather kept Jim Zorn instead of letting him go to a Seatle team then to have kept Danny because he could punt too. One more roster spot. Zorn was the better QB and had Staubachs mobility… but then we are looking at what ifs?
RexP
Danny also inherited an aging team after Roger left. Most of the guys surrounding him were
approaching the ends of their careers. Plus you add into the fact that they were not bringing in the same type of talent that they once did and it spells disaster. Plus I don’t think that they White/ Hogeboom controversy helped matters at all.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Solid post
Typically, discussion like this don’t change anyone’s mind, they just reinforce beliefs. To Babe and Rich – Eli Manning has the worst body language around and Troy Aikman wore his hat backwards. If you don’t have intelligent football analysis to contribute, don’t open your mouth to demonstrate none is likely forthcoming. Similar critics that trot out ‘leadership’ and other baseess themes are just too lazy to look at the root causes.
The Vick, P Mannng playoff records are relevant, but for some reason generally ignored.
I would say the most similar lightningrod to criticism in Cowboy history was Meredith. Although I was pretty young at the time, its very apparent he was polarizing. But that largely came from the sports media, more specifically the DAL media that controlled the narrative. Today’s dialogue is much more fan-based.
I appreciated Dandy Don for what he did – getting DAL to the brink of greatness, despite his flaws and gaffes. Conversely, I did not appreciate Danny White for getting us to the brink of greatness, because that wasn’t good enough anymore. I suspect the fans that have the hardest time w Romo see him failing to live up to the standards of Roger and Troy. I believe we are so far removed from that, just the possibility of a return to greatness is enough for me now. Bad to great is an exception, you’ve got to get good first.
I’ve always respected TR because he doesn’t appear to change his persona to placate his critics. Some have misinterpreted that as not caring enough – more of that convenient insight as opposed to real analysis. Like Meredith, I enjoy the fact he is genuine and insists on enjoying himself – the manner in which he plays is a lot of fun to watch. He is clearly not flawless and can frustrate the hell out of me. My biggest concern is also what happened to Meredith – he walked away when it stopped being fun.
Dont fret about whats lost, embrace/appreciate what's given
they harp on him enough about something that he knows isn't true he'll find a way to remove himself from the picture....good point..
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by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
So the follow-up becomes
If not Romo, then who? Kitna, McGee? If the answer is along the lines of well, somebody/anybody, well then you are just talking out your hindquarters
Dont fret about whats lost, embrace/appreciate what's given
funny thing is that Romo has lived up to the standard of Troy and Roger
It’s the defenses that hasn’t lived up to those championship teams, thats the problem, look at the career qb rating for all three QBs, it’s definitely not the QB.
For some reason, a lot of fans can’t comprehend that.
In Romo we Trust
unadjusted QB rating are meaningless
When you adjust the stats for eras Roger and Troy were much better than Romo. That’s not a knock on Romo, who I love and is quite good. But stop it with this fantasy that he’s in their class. He ain’t.
by TimSchultz36 on Sep 6, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Roger and Troy both had much better teams than Tony has had since taking over.
Three different QB’s in three different era and three completely different set of teams. So stop comparing the first two to Romo while he’s still playing the game.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Why do you need to adjust the stats???
Thats nonsense…completing passes in the 70s and 80s was no different than completing them today. Throwing the football accurately is a skill that transcends time.
Romo’s ability in that area is in Aikman’s and Roger’s class….don’t kid yourself Tim.
In Romo we Trust
Takes two to tango
They throwing to the same reciever, same situation, same game and play and time and place? Get a grip. Transcends Time? You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.
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I think you should consider that the rules back then favored the defense
They could get away with what would today be pass interference. So in some ways it was more difficult to complete passes.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
Agreed
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by lildrummerboy on Sep 6, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
dont doubt so quick
do i think he is? probably not but he could be we dont know. We wont know til romo has the same type of team they did i think romo could be as good as brady for all we know. Cowboys without romo is a 6-10 team again at best probably. Patriots without brady is a 11-5 team… see my point?
by Ronald Brody on Sep 25, 2011 3:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I think you need
to leave the defense argument alone. The Cowboys had the top rated defense in the entire NFL in 2009 under Wade Phillips so you really can’t make “the defenses haven’t lived up to those championship teams argument.” Yes, I know the offensive line didn’t play well in ‘09. But every SB winner didn’t rate #1 in every category when they won the SB either.
not true...Cowboys defense in 2009 sucked against Minnesota
There’s no way a top rated defense plays that poorly in a playoff game.
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Go look it up.
Because a team is top rated overall, doesn’t mean they play great every game. That team had something like 59 sacks that year. Also, if you turn the ball over in the other team’s territory continuously, and the other team has a HOF QB playing at a high level, you’re going to have that team put up points against you. BTW, scoring three points in that game is not a great endorsement for Romo or the offense as a whole.
when your qb has to run for his life every time he drops back
isn’t a good indication the offense will be successful.
Very good defenses don’t disappear in playoff games…just saying
In Romo we Trust
Terry,
that’s like saying very good QBs don’t have bad games. How many times did the offense turn the ball over in Dallas’ territory that game? It’s a team game remember?
really good QBs don't lay eggs in playoff games
and Romo certainly never did.
It is a team game, win as a team, lose as a team…no one player should be held individually accountable for a loss just for their play alone…it is all about the team.
In Romo we Trust
Romo is not
being held “exclusively” accountable (I think that is a better word than individually accountable) for a loss. That goes without saying. However, he is surely the most influential player on the offense and therefore has the greatest effect on the outcome of the game than any other player. He has the choice to change the play, change blocking assignments, run, pass, hand off etc. He touches the ball on every offensive play and therefore, has the greatest effect on the outcome. He, therefore, must take the most responsibility for the results. Therefore, he, like all other QBs, get the most praise and or scrutiny and rightfully so.
Agree and Disagree
If you are saying that Romo was calling audibles that was leaving the oline vulnarable to a pass rush or unable to push for a short run, then ok. I don’t think this is the case but if that’s what happened then it’s his fault.
Also, if he was somehow influential to the defensive players and coaching staff that caused them to continually give up long drives at inopportune times then again it’s his fault.
I tend to think it had more an older oline that wore down near the end of a season. Or poor tactics and schemes.
I don’t think Romo is perfect but I think he’s a very good QB. He’s mobile, evasive, accurate, and a good decision maker. I also think he appears to have the respect of his team mates.
He plays on the offensive side of the ball exclusively jevans
Never saw him play defense yet.
In Romo we Trust
Terry, I believe I said,
“….he is the most influential player on the offense….” The game is decided by who scores the most points and that is the function of the offense. I also believe I said “He, therefore must take the MOST responsibility for the results.” You can’t touch the ball every single offensive play and expect players who never touch the ball to take equal responsibility for the results whether the results are good or bad. If that were the case, then everyone would request equal pay.
Sorry,
but that’s not true. If you never score you cannot win the game. Now, of course, the defense could score but then Romo wouldn’t have anything to do right Terry? :-)
If a Defense allows a score you are always in jepardy of loosing
If the Offense doesn’t score any points you can always tie.
Anyway. I think they are equally important.
I've seen team with crappy offenses win SBs
I’ve never seen a team with crappy defense win a SB
In Romo we Trust
No one player be deemed individually accountable for a
“… loss win just for their play alone…it is all about the team”.
Cry 'Havoc!'
I agree with
you. I just don’t believe that all of the responsibilities are equal in contributing to the final result.
In football, they most certainly are
All players are totally dependent on each other to be successful, unlike in other team sports where individual performances are much more important
In Romo we Trust
I'm sorry
Terry but the QBs responsibilities are vastly more important than an offensive guard or a safety. A free safety, for example, can make no tackles and defend no passes and the team can still win. I doubt very seriously if a QB can complete no passes and the team still win. If everyone’s responsibilities were equal, everybody would be paid like QBs. Agents would demand it.
You don't get it
Without the OL blocking or the receivers catching, the QB can’t do anything. He’s rendered helpless.
Pitcher in baseball can strikeout batters on his own, hockey goalie can stop shots on his own and basketball player can score on his own.
Understand now?
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Vick can score on his own if those units play poorly.
But some misguided people still insist that he is far and away worse than a player that cannot.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
You can too. I can too.
If those units play poorly enough. Hell, a little old lady in a wheelchair could. So?
What player can’t score?
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I don't think I could.
If my OL and WR are playing poorly, I don’t see me as still a threat to score. I don’t legitimately see most NFL QBs as such. There are a few that are, but only one that is equally dangerous running and passing.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Larry Brown had two passes thrown right at him.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You're making a fatal mistake
You are only allowed to make any kind of adjustments or comparisons which demonstrate Romo is superior to others. The accomplishments of Staubach and Aikmen can only be credited to the defense of the teams they played on but Romo’s stats haven’t gotten any benefit from playing in a different era where all passing statistics have exploded.
I reject the premise that the sentiment about Tony Romo is overly negative. He’s the QB of the Dallas Cowboys, not the Arizona Cardinals. There’s going to be loud criticism and he’ll get undue credit for the good. There is just as big a crowd of people who are zealots about defending him as there are negative about him. To that crowd no honest discussion of Romo is allowed.
The guy is a very good QB and I’m glad he plays for the Cowboys. He’s very good but not an elite QB. I think he’s good enough to win a SB if there’s enough talent around him and the circumstances are right
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
that last sentence describes any QB...even the ones you consider elite.
Brady nor Manning didn’t win with scrubs around them.
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Those guys are simply better than him
If you can’t admit that you’re not objective. Take Manning off the Colts through their SB contending years and they’re a .500 team. Take Romo off his team, it’s marginally worse, not drastically worse.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you even bothered to check Manning's record on the playoffs?
Have you watched his play on the playoffs? His lone superbowl was thanks to the defense picking him up and less than stellar competition.
You're a fan of stats?
The 2 years the Colts went to the SB (won after 06 season, lost after 09), their defense was ranked
06 – 21st in the league
09 – 18th in the league
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
true thats that silly volume stat
but thats for the regular season.. look at how their D played postseason go ahead.. Ill wait
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I'll tell you what
While you’re waiting, why don’t you go find the silly stats about how bad the Cowboys defense was that has cost Tony Romo the chance to go further.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
look no further than the last drive before half giants 07
thats typical Cowboy D
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A great QB keeps his team in a position to win the close games.
The defense must give him the opportunity to do this on a consistent basis. Everyone on the team plays a role in the final outcome of the game, but there are players who must be relied on to win the close ones. Most of those players are in the HOF.
Wish you were here
great quote
The defense must give him the opportunity to do this on a consistent basis.
In Romo we Trust
Different era, different contracts
Romo isn’t walking away from anything. He makes too much money.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Good Points
In general I’ve been Romo guy, for the reasons stated in the article. He may do some things that drive me nuts, but he almost always has the team in a position to win. I can’t think of another QB outside of Manning, Brady, Rothlisberger, and as of last year, Rodgers who can make the same claim.
With that in mind, I’m anxious to see how he performs when the team around him is held to a high level of expectations. Maybe you can say I want to see how Romo leads the team without Wade Phillips as the head coach. John Kitna was putrid last year under Wade but turned around when Garrett took over. Will Romo do the same?
I’m looking forward to see what Romo will do this year.
by WA_Cowboy on Sep 6, 2011 9:00 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
maybe this is the year that he starts having fun again becuz the players around him are actually doing their part to help him...
he won’t feel like he has to do everything all by himself and press…..
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Sep 6, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I know what Romo will do
4500+ yards, 30+ TDs, 90+ qb rating….it’s the defense I’m looking forward to seeing, whether they will be improved or not…that will be the key to our success this year.
In Romo we Trust
Terry we better start clearing some room preparing for people to jump on more and more each week
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"Know" what's not yet been?
Jeez, why the plus (+) signs then. Why not just tell us bang on? Do that, have it come to be, do it again, then again, then…
Then I’ll believe you may “know”.
Cry 'Havoc!'
going by past history
and this season will be better than most he’s had, health permitting
In Romo we Trust
Ahhh...
… evaluated supposition. Or as I like to call mine, wild-ass guessing. But that’s just me.
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I prefer SWAG to WAG.
Always liked the scientific approach.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
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Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
At least he'll put up those numbers, Terry.
Wish you were here
It's Catch-22 for him. Some of the same people who are predicting 9-7 or 8-8 are
arguing that this is Romo’s last chance to make a Super Bowl run. Honestly, I have to started to ignore a lot of this claptrap. I have lost respect for a number of commentators, fans, and former players who just spout lazy cliches about hats, etc.
The interesting thing is that, as I have pointed out, Romo’s jersey is still one of the hottest sellers in the NFL. Someone is buying those shirts; it must be people outside of the Metroplex and away from some of the most entitled fans and media I’ve ever seen. The funny thing is watching what happens to those two elite QBs, Manning and Brady, when their lines break down. How human they look.
Great post.
If we go 8-8 or 9-7, it won't be Romo's fault.
Wish you were here
You're right. It'll be the Cowboys'.
Same if they go 19-0. Or… – nah, not gonna say it.
Cry 'Havoc!'
Crap, I was hoping you finish.
Now I will never know what you were going to say.
Only kidding. You are correct about the “team” thing. It kills me when people give undue praise or credit to anyone, when the responsibility of winning and losing falls squarely on the team.
Don't let it kill ya.
They’re wrong. You’re right. They want proof, have ‘em line up opposite your 11 all by their lonesome, just once. Then again, if they don’t get it the first time. Then aga…
They’ll get it. Eventually.
Cry 'Havoc!'
Just for the record
It didn’t kill me, was just trying to be funny.
Awww, man, I figured I had a connect to the afterlife.
You are both funny and correct and like me in the killing fields. Be afraid.
Cry 'Havoc!'
Great....no make that.....GREAT POST!!!
I really hate the argument about lack of wins, especially playoff or Superbowl wins when talking about how good an “Individual” player is. There are 21 other starters on the field (not including special teams) not to mention coaching decisions that effect the outcome of a game. Even when you talk about great MVP performances after a game, I think it’s very rare that one player alone decided the outcome of a game (win or lose).
exactly, wins and losses is a team stat
QB can’t be compared to a hockey goalie or pitcher, they need 21 other individuals to play well to succeed.
In Romo we Trust
They are still team events
Pitchers don’t get credited with a win if said pitcher leaves the game and the lead is blown. . . . It still requires a concerted team effort.
Pitchers can strike out batters on their own
QBs can block for themselves or catch their own passes
In Romo we Trust
You're correct, they can
But unless a pitcher plays in the National League, he needs his team to score runs (at a minimum 1 run) and most pitcher don’t throw complete games, so they require a bullpen.
Last point, I have never heard of a pitcher striking out 27 guys in a game, so the guys behind him are important for defense too.
my point is that QBs are much more dependent on their teammates to be successful
than pitchers and that simply is a fact. Football is the most “team” sport there is with everyone having to execute their jobs well for their teammates to be successful.
Not so much in other sports.
In Romo we Trust
Kid K. Ron Necciai.
MLB, no.
man, we’re all over the map, topsy-turvey’d, flipping sides, on this individual/team thing, ain’t we? Ahhh, when’s the game start? Sunday?!!!
Cry 'Havoc!'
Just gunna rant a bit
I am a big Romo fan, but I think some criticism is deserved. He has had some really good teams to lead. Record breaking teams. Sure he gets more of the blame than Ware and Witten but he is the freakin quarterback.
I am not saying he deserves all the blame. You could easily say Phillips deserves an equal portion of that pie. My point is… You can’t just say, ‘Well I guess it is just nobody’s fault’ shrug and walk away.
I have heard the argument, ‘We are not in the rebuilding stage! We have an elite Qb and anytime you have an elite Qb you are in the running!’ You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say, Romo keeps us in the picture no matter what and then say it is not his fault he can’t get us there.
MacGruber!
nobody's saying it's nobody's fault
Teams win and lose as a team…..when you lose everyone deserves some criticism, but not the majority, as if not for him, we wouldn’t have lost…thats complete BS.
BTW, your last paragraph has applied to P Manning his entire career.
In Romo we Trust
I see
Having the choice between-
the greatest center to ever play the game and the greatest quarterback… You think they are equal? Value at positions vary. Corner backs get paid… Pass rushers get paid… They get paid because they are more important than the punter. The most important position is quarterback.
When Romo does well in the playoffs he will get more credit than he deserves. But he will deserve more credit.
MacGruber!
Obviously the QB is the most important position
but it’s also a position that is directly dependent on other positions, Ol to block, WRs to catch, etc.
Romo has played well in the playoffs, not outstanding, but certainly well enough to win…other players need to carry their weight in that regard, can’t always just blame the qb.
In Romo we Trust
Romo has played well in the playoffs, not outstanding,
Which parts of ROmo’s game have not been outstanding?
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I think this is where it's hard to evaluate individual performance
How can Romo or any QB have an outstanding game when the line cannot protect him?
Thank you for making the point, the people who blindly support him will not answer a question about a statement they reluctantly made
I hear crickets. They are not capable of evaluating him objectively
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Should have included this quote/question
Which parts of ROmo’s game have not been outstanding?
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm slow
Help me understand. The question was “which parts of Romo’s game have not been outstanding”. You answered “every part”. So you’re saying nothing about Romo has been outstanding? Just a couple specifics will clear it up for me. Specifically, which parts of Romo’s game could have been better?
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
They all could have been better
just like every player’s performance in those games could have been better because if they were, we don’t lose.
In Romo we Trust
Be specific, Terry. Which parts of Romo's playoff performance were less than outstanding? Unless you are saying that he just generally sh!t the bed, which I don't think you are, which areas would you have liked to see him perform better?
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by Seanrude on Sep 6, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Romo has played well in the playoffs
I agree there. He has played average at times, though. I do think that all in all he is a good quarterback.
He does deserve more accountability than the free safety that plays special teams. (an exaggeration sure) The point is, there is a reason he is up on the podium after games.
I would like for him to be a really great quarterback and he hasn’t shown that.
MacGruber!
You haven't seen enough Cowboys games lately son!
And watch out this year under JG, I think you’ll change your mind
Romo has shown greatness
His career productivity is proof of that. To be successful in the playoffs though, everyone needs to play great, not just the QB.
In Romo we Trust
game of inches
How close did we get to that first down in the seattle game; and how close did tony come to getting away and running for a TD?
Just like Crayton and those missed catches against the Giants in 2007.
We just have fallen short.
The comparisons with Meredith are very telling. He was a top QB, but got blamed because dallas could not win the big one. But at the time he was playing, Green Bay was terrorizing the whole NFL. Then for a couple of years of all teams Cleveland had our number when it mattered. The two losses 67-68 in the NFL championship game could not have been closer. In one the D failed to stop Green Bay; in the other Meredith just missed on a pass.
Dallas got that first down. That was a BS replay call
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by Seanrude on Sep 6, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know right!!!!
Then that wussy kicker couldn’t even slow the guy down for a mili second
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
This will sound like crazy person talk, but bear with me for a sec.
There are 3 things I hate about the NFL:
1. I absolutely hate how high a Ring vaults a QB regardless of how well or don’t play.
2. I hate the way pet lover’s treat Vick.
and 3. I hate how unversed the media and a lot of fans are on what it really takes to evaluate a good team.
Now only 2 of these apply to this post so please spare me the Vick talk.
I do not think Rogers is worthy of all the praise he receives, but you know, he won a Superbowl and was named MVP. Likewise with manning(notice the lowercase, my way of separating the two). These QBs are benefiting from the media’s/lesser fans need/love to have one person responsible for success. And it is sickening. Think back to any season prior to maybe 2002 and it was all about the TEAM. Great teams, great units, great playerSSSSSS. Fast forward to today and it seems like the only person responsible, again in the media’s/lesser fans eyes, is the QB.
Romo is a great QB, GREAT not good. His number speak for himself and what he has done to Dallas in contrast to what other Quarterbacks have done is worthy of at least letting the man finish out his contract… I mean seriously.
Let A Few Dogs
have the pleasure of the grind first.
"You have to have a stronger belief in yourself than the disbelief of others."
Antonio Ramirez Romo
Great Article....particularly interested about Ware and Witten getting a free pass
I think this year is a big year for Ware…he has been revered as one of the best in the game…its time he delivered a big season….
???
Is leading the league with 15.5 sacks not big enough? Witten with 1,000 yds and 9 TD’s Not big enough? There is a reason they get a free pass….because they get results.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Sorry to intrude
But if we’re talking about stats I think Romo has broken all kinds of records on those. And he doesn’t get a pass.
And you're arguing Don was an elite level QB?
That’s pretty much what Romo supporters are arguing here. He’s an all-time great, elite QB and any analysis that shows otherwise is the work of haters.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You want to go easy on the generalizations? I like Romo a lot, but I've yet
to argue that Romo is all time, or even elite, since I don’t know how “elite” is defined. Please don’t take Terry’s behavior and put anyone who defends Romo on the defensive.
Fair enough
And maybe I’m a little defensive. I was an early supporter of Tony Romo and continue to think the guy is really good. If I mention any kind of potential criticism, I’m called a “hater”.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
No matter how great statistically a QB is, he's always going to be measured by the number of rings he wins.
Very few will be elected to the HOF without SB championships. Marino and Fouts are the exception to the rule.
Wish you were here
I think Terrell Owens would be a valuable addition to this team
He’s an RKG, a “team player”, and he will most certainly get along with with our new Head Coach as well as our starting QB.
In fact, he most likely will be satisfied with a number 3 Receiver role and will be content with the limited targets and playing time he will get.
Also, he’s not old. Just sayin.
You were being funny right?
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
People are crazy
How are people seriously saying T.O. would be a good fit? Love the sarcasm, proves alot of good points…if only everyone could see all those points we could bury this argument. I have seen like 100 comments on here “we should get T.O. back, he would be a good fit”. I read them, then I go puke several times.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Drink lots of fluids
You’ll need them after puking that much
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
Romo made some very early PR mistakes
Romo didn’t fully realize that the spotlight would be 100x brighter on him than on any other NFL QB. Going to Cabo was a huge PR mistake. In fact, the very public dating of Jessica Simpson was a huge PR mistake from start to finish. He’s done almost nothing since then to indicate he isn’t extremely serious about the game, but the first thing non-Cowboy fans say to me is: Romo could probably be good if he took the game seriously.
I just shake my head. The man is more than capable of winning a Super Bowl. But until he does, I’m afraid those early PR mistakes will haunt him.
by AikmanGeneration on Sep 6, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions
non-Cowboys fans simply have no clue
as well as many Cowboys fans actually…..if they did they’d realize nothing is more important to Romo than football.
Amazing how the media influences so many fans
In Romo we Trust
I think this is the biggest factor
Amazing how the media influences so many fans
People in general are thinking less. I’ve had many conversations with fans who pretty much regurgitate exactly what they hear on BSPN. You keep saying something over and over and over again its easy to just believe that it is true.
One non Romo example is T.O. and BP calling him “the player”. The way the stories and the media covered it you would think BP only called TO the player.
but I saw almost all of his press conferences. he called a lot of people the player…he did it quite frequently for multiple people when answering a question. He mentioned TO by name often.
BSPN and the Media regurgitate everything, continually
They do it so frequently, that they often begin to believe their opinions are fact.
Quite frankly, it sickens me. I am not that old, but I remember a time when new was reported. I get tired/frustrated with every analyst that forces their unwanted opinions tirelessly.
Good posts, good comments, BUT . . .
although I agree 99%, I have a question. If your mantra is, “It’s on the rest of the team, not Romo,” how do you explain a team that has a better offense/ winning percentage when its top-6 quarterback goes down and it turns the offense over to a past-his-prime backup?
Yes, boneheaded drops (by RW, by Crayton) can make a quarterback look worse than another quarterback. But flip that around. Should we attribute some of TR’s success to having Witten to throw to? Or, in his first couple of seasons, TO? Or Dez? Or an offensive coordinator/ coach who is great at getting a passing game going, no matter who’s behind center?
I agree that Romo is good. I just think the “it’s a team game” argument goes both ways.
nobody is saying that
and the answer to your question is that the team hired a new coach…..
and you can make the same argument for any QB including Manning and Brady….all QBs need weapons to be successful
In Romo we Trust
... what Terry said,
But also, people forget that Kitna lost his first two games, horribly, with the team looking more lost than in 1989. That turnaround was JG, not Kitna.
by jazzbo251 on Sep 6, 2011 10:34 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
great point
and it can be argued the team looked much worse with Kitna at QB before Garrett took over.
In Romo we Trust
Also
Kosier and Colombo had missed serious Training camp time. And had come back in during the first few games, but Wade’s no pads practices meant the only contact they had was game day. That combined to get Romo killed. JG coming in, also started to toughen up some guys during the week.
Wade really let the team get soft.
by H-Town Boys Fan on Sep 6, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Brady goes down cassell steps in ... same thing...
Plus new coach. Basically anything Terry says in this thread is true.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
by thebigham on Sep 6, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you know i read the first paragraph and all i could think is how people could trash romo
saying he doesnt care for the game because of his humble attitude that comes off as carefree and not serious when he had to work harder to make it(UDFA from D-II) than aaron rodgers who had some of the same goofy tendencies.
and then bam you drop the rodgers comparison. 3 years ago aaron rodgers was a guy vilified for kicking brett farve to the curb and seemed like a blissful young’n with a stupid celebration.
now people say the packers had it right all along, his celebration is epitome of post chad johnson era celebrations, rocks a burly but slick ’stache now, and oh i heard he can get it from michelle beadle whenever he wants.
but anyway i feel you keep romo healthy and he can still produce well into his late 30’s a la kurt warner. most of his “failures” from the past have been overblown way out of proportion. seattle: people forget he took over mid-season and how terrible mcbriar was at holding kicks and it was raining that game. NYG: 2nd playoff game for him and most of that defense. He did what he could but i remember the giants decking him all game and eli either handing it to jacobs or getting all day to throw it.
44-6: i remember that season the team being “on” or completely hung over from getting upset the year before. that blown game to washington should have been a sign. the arizona game knocked him out and mcbriar was lost for the season. the st. louis game i thought was the most pathetic performance ever, then they blew it against pittsburgh and then baltimore, and then philly. the defense and the o-line deserved more flak.
another undeserved criticism was that they choke in december. now i’m not vindicating the teams performances in winter but they have had some insanely difficult post-thanksgiving schedules. thankfully last year they got people to shut up about that and focus their attention finally on how san diego for the last 7 years or so start each season so slow that by week 7 or 8 they are either at or under .500 and go on insane win streaks to finish the season but still flame out in the playoffs
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Sep 6, 2011 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Kudos on a Great post!
This site makes me proud to call myself a Cowboys fan!
great post & this team has a shot if all areas play well.
but those guys mentioned above fought the odds to make some big plays. i mean Eli was under some heavy pressure & he was the one that got the pass fired off so Tyree could do his part (to bad Crayton wasn’t Tyree).
Big Ben say what you want the guy extends plays better then anyone in the league & he threw a dime to Holmes so he could make a play on the ball. Big Ben isn’t flashy but he’s one the best in the NFL at how he does it.
Rodgers, Brady & Brees all overcome things or made the big play when they needed it most. hopefully it happens for Romo sooner then later bc theres only 1 winner a year. it doesn’t take long to see a core come & go but right now you can like or not but he’s the best were going to have in the next 5+ years.
i’m far from a Romo Homer but i think this team has a great 3-4 year window to win a super bowl before things become a concern. i also think a lot of fans that comment didn’t see the 90s Cowboys so to them its been a disaster until here lately but most people thats seen this team change multilple times then they understand where there at.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Eli, Rodgers and Ben also had great defenses
No question in my mind Romo can make those types as well in huge games
In Romo we Trust
well one things for sure if it happens then a lot of NFL players & TV heads will have give him his credit
it would be nice to hear espn or nfln saying good things about the Cowboys again
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Tony is both a winner and loser in the arena of context
When spoken of in the same breath as aikman and Staubach, he isn’t and won’t be viewed favorably. Period. End of story. Stop vomiting up volume stats in a pass-happy league. It doesn’t hold water.
On the other hand, he looks great when lined up with Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson and the other pretenders to the throne.
The fact is that, in order to be considered a GREAT one, he has to win some BIG postseason contests.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
+1
winning 1 wildcard is unacceptable in 15 years & football is divided into 3 seasons. preseason (can’t win a sb here) regular season (still can’t win a sb here) then the postseason & thats where the greats make there name. Marino might not have any rings but he played in the postseason with success & even in the super bowl but just not enough.
Romo doesn’t need to prove anything to me presonally but he needs to get it done for himself. i think this offense will be a top 5 in a lot of stats & hopefully turnovers aren’t 1 of them.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Did Marino make it to the Superbowl only once?
And then 16 years of nothing? on top of that Romo has only been the QB of the Cowboys since 2007(first full season) and has 2 division titles and a playoff win.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
exactly and a great argument could be made that Marino was the best qb of all time
He pretty much quashes any argument that you have to adjust passing stats in todays game….Marino would have lit it up in any era as all great qbs would.
In Romo we Trust
The best example is
Marino or Bradshaw.. to squash the whole he has a ring argument. Anyone who thinks Bradshaw was better than Marino should be left in a white padded room
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
theres a reason why swann is making all those amazing catches..
Bradshaw was a horrible QB/Passer.. however you want to call it.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
no it isn't, it's absolutely true
Bradshaw was the one of the most overrated players of all time….he played on a great team…really great….so many qbs of that generation would have won just as many SBs on that team.
In Romo we Trust
Then you can say the same about Starr, Staubach, Aikman, Montana and other QBs.
Come on man,he won 4 effin SBs. I thought you knew better.
Lock n Load
he won 3
jackie smith left the 4th for him in the endzone
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Sep 6, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't he call most of the plays?
I know he didn’t call every single one of them, but I do recall hearing (on multiple occasions and from various sources) that he called a great deal of the plays. Not saying he is a genius, but most QBs of a forgone era, don’t get the respect they deserve.
can't do that bling without a supporting cast that plays well
No QB has ever done it and none ever will.
In Romo we Trust
Agreed
And in some ways, rightfully so. A great Qb can make a difference.
I remember the feeling when Romo took over. You just knew he was different than Bledsoe. A good Qb can make a huge difference, a great Qb can mean nearly everything.
MacGruber!
not defensively they can't
They have absolutely no control of that side of the ball
In Romo we Trust
Quarterbacks make a difference in football
Sticking your fingers in your ears every time someone says they do won’t make it go away.
MacGruber!
never said they don't
but I have yet to see one make a difference on defense, have you??
In Romo we Trust
And in perspective
He is certainly a successful quarterback. I mean he has a lot of statistical evidence, breaking franchise records.
But how successful is yet to be determined
MacGruber!
i also think Romo getting married was the best thing for him & his career
his wife seems like a great woman & supports his career outside the spotlight. i think this team will see a different Romo this season & he’s been in the system for years now. His leadership should show this season with so many young players on the offensive side of the ball.
i would also like to see DWare become more of a vocal leader on the defensive side of the ball.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth!
Disagree
I think it has a lot more to do with the quality of the oline, a better performing defense, and a new HC then a wife or this “leadership” word that gets thrown around.
It's Amazing That People Forget
who quarterbacked the ‘Boys before Romo. Hell, I thought Drew Henson would be that guy. For those fools who say he doesn’t care about football or isn’t a leader, my question is this: How do U go from being UNDRAFTED to becoming the face of legendary franchise without working hard OR loving the game of football? Not only that, he will OWN all of the team passing records before he hangs them up! I hope the ’Boys can go on a shocking title run like my San Francisco Giants did while JG and RR assemble the team to their liking so all of these know-it-alls can shut up and let the man play.
Great post!
Jerry gives the team no draft picks or free agents that make an impact. He cuts guys because they make too much and puts three rookies in the starting OLine and the media goes after Romo.
Jerry Jones is destroying this franchise. The made all those moves to save money and won’t spend it. The team is over $15 million under the cap and the media talks of Romo..
The defense,last season, was the worst in the history of the Cowboys and the team replaced one guy, Alan Ball. When the defense sucks again this season, my guess is Troy Aikman will come on and blame Romo for not having what it takes to win in the NFL..
One last thing, last season this offense scored more points than the Green Bay Packers. The offense is not broke, it is the defense. Until they fix the defense, it won’t matter who is the QB, although I would like to see Babe take a few hits behind that Oline..
You obviously never saw the 1989 defense which was absolutely horrendous.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
The 1989 defense started to play decently towards the end of the season
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Not that well please.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Danny White
would have gotten a lot more credit if Drew Pearson didn’t stumble on a clear TD after “The Catch”.
Well done Brandon
Romo is a stud and the boys are certainly better off than most franchises in regards to QB. Laurent Robinson is a cowboy now?
Got five, deperately seeking six!
Not quite yet
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
This is always what I am screaming at the tv when I listen to the "analysts"
Thanks for the post. How else could dan Marino be regarded as one of the greatest QBs of all tie yet never won a super bowl. In fact, I recall that he only even played in one…
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." –Vince Lombardi
Competitiveness? Will to Win?
I think if you ask anyone that coached him here in Burlington or down at EIU they would tell you he is one, if not the, most competitive athletes they ever coached. Romo catches heat because he has levity and perspective in his personal life and is in balance with himself and his career. So he shot back at a reporter saying if a loss is the worst thing that ever happens to him then he’s lived a charmed life. Well, if friggn true. Coming from the low end of the middle class he’s seen tough times. Pressure? You think playing football is pressure? Making 30K per year and raising a family in this economy is pressure. Like I said, Romo has small town values and appreciates things differently than some of the prima donnas that play the game and talk about it. Doesn’t mean he’s not as competitive as any QB in the league. My God he was a free agent undrafted out of nowhere. How’s that for competitiveness.
by Jaymanburlington on Sep 6, 2011 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Well said
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
while i agree that Romo has been an ugrade..
I can’t stand when majority feel as Romo ass don’t stink.. the guy has and done..
Romo rude awakening was when Kitna took over .. he witness his team strip from him.
Im for drafting a QB in 2012 . Find some one who can come in serious about this game like Brady and peyton.. A leader that can demand more from his teammates..
Romo had his time.. as long as Jg keep competition back there Dallas should never go back to post troy days …
by lostar2009 on Sep 6, 2011 12:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
oh boy
That’s a bit excessive, isn’t it. I think the article proves that your mentality is pretty much wrong.
If you don't like Romo then don't watch the games since he's gonna be here for quite awhile
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
although yes, a QB in 2012 wouldnt be a bad thing
But if you think any Rookie, even Andrew freaking Luck, can out compete Tony Romo for a job, well… yeah.
Aikman was considered (rightfully so) a great QB,
but the OL protecting him and opening holes for Emmitt Smith (almost typed Smiff) was about as strong as an OL can possibly be. Add in Johnston and Novacek and you get my point.
This team, and probably every Cowboys team from now till the end of time, is NOT THAT GOOD.
People love BS. They also love gossip and Romo is a gold mine for all that. My opinion, which is every bit as worthless as the next guy’s, is that he is fully capable of leading his team to hoisting the Lomb trophy. If he was my QB, I’d be fine, looking forward to a great season.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
There's a local radio personality in DFW named Randy Galloway who has a less than flattering name for Cowboy fans...
He calls them Cow Sheep…when I moved here, I didn’t understand why he always used that reference. He never offered an explanation, and it took me some time to realize why he did this…a great number of fans (and Americans in general), can be led around by the nose. They often times don’t think before they react and can be influenced very easily. They take what the media says for gospel, and rarely questions their validity. It takes a little more effort to research the facts yourself, and a bit more even to come up with your own ideas, but it is the most surprising to realize that most people are too lazy to make the effort. We’ve become a society were convenience is paramount…how many people make meals from scratch anymore? We go to a restaurant or microwave a ready ready made meal bought from Costco.
We are so ready to believe in the media criticism of Romo without ever asking ourselves whether it is valid…
1) He’s not a leader…this point has been beaten to death. Ask them to define a leader…and they come up with stereotypical trappings like yelling and screaming. Most of these pundits wouldn’t know what true leadership was, because they aren’t leaders themselves. Is Aaron Rodgers a leader? I’ve never seen him yell and scream…hell, he couldn’t even get his team together for off season workouts…is that leadership?
2) He’s aloof…football isn’t important to him. This is the same guy who rode his bike through a snow storm to to try and not miss a game when in high school. He’s never even missed a practice since being in the league, even when people say he’s too busy off in Hollywood hanging with his celebrity friends or on the links golfing away.
3) He’s not clutch when the pressure is the highest. I can name so many games where he has been his finest when executing the final drive. In fact, I would take Romo over every QB not names Peyton and Brady for a 2 minute drive. If you need more proof of how well Romo plays at the end of games…refer to OCC’s posts for corroboration.
Fans that are critical of Romo are critical because they accept the media criticism verbatim…they are Cow Sheep.
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 6, 2011 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would take him over Peyton in the 2 minute drive
And no its not I’m being blinded by being a Cowboy.
Check Peytons stat’s in the 2 minute drives in the playoffs. He has 10 losses in the playoffs and at least 15 of those are his fault. (SD a couple of years back, Superbowl vs. NO, Pats twice, etc.) Hate that Peyton is crowned as a FB God but nobody mentions his huge dropoff in play on the playoffs. Last year the excuse was the injuries, ah well GB won the SB with I think 7 starters on the IR. Time for the media to admit he’s not clutch. Best Regular season QB ever, I’ll give you that, but he’s hurt his team on the playoffs more often than not.
if people believe Romo is the problem here, they are wrong
if anything, the defense will be the problem this year
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:06 PM CDT reply actions
I have always been a big Romo supporter
and will continue to be regardless of what the talking heads on ESPN say. I honestly don’t know how Romo doesn’t fire back at some of these idiotic theories. We Cowboys fans are pretty well informed around here, and I LOVE it! Give the guy a break naysayers! He plays golf and wears a backwards hat. Didn’t Aikman become the GMC spokesman back in the day? and I remember an episode of Coach he was on (if you haven’t seen this, it was hilarious). He showed up on Letterman and Leno and didn’t get half the crap thrown Tony’s way. Aikman was building a brand! Geez! But hey, what do I as a lowly fan know about such things :)
p.s. this wasn’t meant to down Aikman. Just pointing out things. I’m a huge Aikman fan
For Romo
The guy took a 9-7 team to a 13-3 record for gods sakes! We took his top target T.O. away because he was a team distraction…then gave him Roy Friggin WIlliams! If the D wasn’t so horrible last year we would have been doing just fine…and his INT’s last year were coming from passes deflected off the WR’s hands. The game against the Titans we were down 17-3 at one point and Romo willed us back into the game and gave us a chance to win it. He would have won the Redskins game if 1. Choice hadn’t been an idiot, and 2. Alex Barron wasn’t hugging Brian Orakpo like a damn teddy bear. We lost close games last year and not because of Romo. Hell we were up 20-6 against the Giants before he went down! Blaming him alone is the dumbest argument for not even a Cowboys fan, but a football fan…everytime I hear it I think the person saying it has no football IQ and is an idiot.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
records mean nothing in playoffs
I agree room is nt all to blame like I said earlier fact is he needs to step up. As for play wit choice I blame the dummy more who called da play n our qb who should have question da play or just took da sack. That is what am talking bout u think a Brady manning(peyton) brees rogers rivers would have said to our coaches why u calling a play like day with no chance but a bad outcome. I think it’s deeper then romo its the Jones boys both father n son who put dis team together.let me think back to end of season when I heard heads will roll then I hear we can sign anyone we want to really n we have da same team. Look I love my boys n I will ride them till I die I think we as true fans just want da truth n show us u trying improve n get to playoffs n make a serious run at the Superbowl. I am sorry but I don’t see that this year
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 12:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a great post Brandon
That perception of Romo resides in casual fans who pay more attention the national media than the team. The media in turn creates fables about the game of football – that one player can “put the team on his shoulders” or “the playoffs is where you separate the winners from the losers” or “they were destined for greatness”. It’s ridiculous because we all see the alternatives right before us in every game. A missed call here, a dropped pass or fumble there, a tipped ball, a missed block. Those are the small things that determine entire games. How much of the Saints beating the Vikes was the Saints and how much was a better Vikings team killing itself with turnovers? Every play in every game works that way in this sport. Belichick has said numerous times that the talent margin between teams is miniscule, so coaching and random chance play a much larger role than fans and media allow. But if a coach or player dares to articulate that they’re shouted down for making excuses. The fable about QBs is the same – SBs are won by the great ones. But then we turn around and define greatness by SBs won.
I don’t really care about comparisons, because they’re meaningless. All I know is that Romo is more than good enough to help his team win a chmpionship if all the other pieces come together. That’s good enough for me.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Sep 6, 2011 12:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Interestingly
Both Aikman and Manning were regarded as somewhat suspect early in their NFL careers because they didn’t win championships in college. Jimmy was very pointed on that issue regarding Troy – a contributing factor as to why Walsh was brought in. And it affected their relationship early on.
In sum – people will make up crap to justify their beliefs irrespective of the validity.
Dont fret about whats lost, embrace/appreciate what's given
I remember the Johnson/Aikman thing. I've heard, and I can't point to where, that
it took Aikman quite a while to warm up to Jimmy after that.
It did take a while for Troy to trust Jimmy after that
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With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
dont take this the wrong way anyone, but Matt Ryan reminds me of Aikman
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
ok so im not crazy then right, you see it too?
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
You're definitely crazy
but yeah, not wrong about this. his style of play is reminiscent of Aikman, and they have their own set of “triplets” in Atlanta, with Turner and White
by DonMoosavi on Sep 6, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol thanks
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Ryan
Is a good comparison to Aikman. All he needs is a little better of a defense. That Falcons team is going to be good for a while, I think they will win a championship if not this year sometime soon. I think they are a NFC sleeper.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
i don't think they're a sleeper
They were a #1 seed last year, and a lot of people see them going the distance soon, if not this year.
Im Just Saying
They don’t get alot of hype, thats what I mean by “sleeper”. All you hear is Philly and Green Bay this and that, hell we were 6-10 and you here more about us than the Falcons.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
That seems like a good bet to me.
Don’t know what the odds are in Vegas and don’t really care. They’re a team on the rise.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
Maybe you guys see more than I do,
but I don’t think Ryan has “it.” I could be biased by the shalacking that Green Bay gave them in the playoffs but I just don’t see it
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
idk you never know
Aikman is a god around Dallas
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Aikman
Is my personal religious icon, I face to the direction of Dallas from wherever I am and kneel on a rug and pray to him 5 times a day.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
LOL
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Now if you said Ryan is a better QB than Romo, then I think you might have a few detractors...lol
But there’s no question that Ryan is on his way to great career and does have a similar style to Aikman…
yeah true
I just have always liked Ryan since he was at BC, I saw him come back in the rain against Virginia Tech, one of the most amazing QB performances I have ever seen
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Tired of this argument
Great post, BTW!
I know it was mentioned earlier, but on my way back to work from lunch, I was listening to Colin Cowherd’s show and he was talking to Peter King (from SI). King (as well as Cowherd) said that he expects the Cowboys to surprise a lot of people and compete for a shot at the SB this year. He did throw in “as long as the defense can learn and work with Rob Ryan’s system without consistently having people ‘not in the right place’ or something like that.”
So then, after a commercial break, Cowherd starts talking about how “he doesn’t want to see his NFL quarterback wear his hat backwards.” Saying “its ok if a 9 year old does…but not an NFL quarterback.” And guess who’s name he dropped. Yep, Romo!
This is what bothers me the most. I just don’t get how idiotic people can be to think that because you don’t wear your hat on the “right” way, means that you don’t give a damn. I, as well as most of you true, Cowboys fans, have seen a lot of other QB’s in the league with their hats on backwards at one point or another.
Just a joke!
People always gotta talk about something
Its a friggin hat already…who cares?
Remember when Favre came back to Minnesota last year with that had that looked like it had been slept on by a deer?
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every one can talk romo needs to step game up
I see all dis talk back n forth but truth is romo needs to step his game up. He is suppose to b our leader so go out n win games. Now a days ur not goin win with just defense u got put up points n yes our D sucks but get over it tired hearing excuses for him. Wat he needs to do is cut down on his turnovers n made smarter choices with da ball bottom line. Elite qb don’t make da dumb turnovers at da wrong time so stop all talk n win games n try get us to Superbowl. Am not blaming all on room but tired guys making excuses for him. Ur crazy if u think he is in roger or troy class please
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 12:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
*Yawn*
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
haha thanks
Some people act as if Brady and Peyton are perfect… They make mistakes too. Thats one of the biggest of Peyton’s career.
Now, even in this situation you’ll have lots of people blaming Reggie Wayne. If that was Romo to Dez guess who would be vilified for the rest of his career.
Tracy Porter>Mike Jenkins
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
You know what they say about ifs and buts
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
Who cares dude? Not even the point
For a cowboys fan chia, you sometimes act more like a cowboys hater.
oh yes, I am such a Cowboys hater
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
lol yeah kinda
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I've read enough of him to have my own opinion...
I think he holds a record in posts here or something.
yes I am a hater
I secretly hate this team, spending much of my writing time with propaganda then in the comment section I spread my hate
your on to me
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew it
Let me guess you’re a communist too?
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
McCarthyism lives!
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Said you act like a hater not that you are one
I know your hearts in the right place dude, just bother me when I read all the negative comments about our team in this blog. Let’s leave that for the commenters on DC.com.
We’re in this together, next topic…
yeah thats true
The negative comments are excessive, I think we should gang up on the OP and not Chia though…
Although ganging up on Chia sounds like fun cause he’s so hawt
lol
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Saying someone on another team is better than one of ours doesn't
make him any less of a fan. If you’ve really read his posts, you’d know that.
by Fernie67 on Sep 6, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
saying it out of the blue when it's not even part of the conversation does...
And I don’t know enough about tracy porter (besides that INT) to say he’s better than jenkins, would you care to expand more on your comment chia?
yes
Mike Jenkins had one of the worst seasons ever for a cornerback,
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
so
when a picture is posted of a player, and I say that player is better than a Cowboy, thats hating?
interesting
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
next time
There’s a picture on P&T of Dwight Howard, you better say he’s better than Jared Jeffries. Or else.
LOL
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
hahah that's your best argument? He had a terrible season?
We all agree Mike had a terrible year last year. Does that make him a worse player than TP? I don’t know. But apparently neither do you since all you have said is how bad Mike, but not how good TP is. Mike had an incredible year the year before and I think it’s no coincidence he had that terrible year the same year everybody else on that defense not named DeMarcus did.
Let’s move to another subject man, I know your heart is in the right place, but I will keep pointing out negative comments (by you or anybody else). I am a firm believer that positivism breeds good things.
its a show me now league
doesn’t matter what he did in 2009 anymore, its 2011
when you have one of the worst statistical performances ever for a CB, you deserve criticism
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
plus
when you miss the whole preseason, that doesn’t really make me feel better about Mike Jenkins
if he sucks again, he is a huge bust and a total waste of a draft pick considering who was on the board
when the article came out this offseason about how the Steelers took him off their draft board, I became even more nervous about him
Mike Jenkins worries me more than any other player on this football team, and its not even close
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
He won't suck again, promise.
Give him the benefit of the doubt.
I hope so man
One of these guys has to succeed or I’ll just look crazy… Wait a minute
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
can u take it like a man
No offence to you but I hear a lot of crying from you on this Jenkins thing. May be u should follow ur advice to me n sit down take a deep breath n take it like a real man oh yea remember no offence I am not mad at ya
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 1:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
to be fair, he hasn't had a comeback nearly as good as what they hit you with
I just said he was acting like a hater and he was… Not crying on the Jenkins thing, read again…
Elite Qb dont make dumb turnovers at the wrong…
BAM!!! there you go!! no comeback for that one (especially with peyton on the floor). Good stuff man, bet you didn’t see that one coming.
On another note, please refresh my memory on a dumb turnover by Romo in a big game. (not saying there isn’t, I just can’t remember)
itz kool lol
Just thought I hit u wit a come back lol man chill romo is my boy do u think he needs to step up or not
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 1:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
playoffs
Jan 17 2010 we played vikins got a… beat u may recall dis 34-3 we only had a field goal u remember dat game
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 1:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who did the Cowboys play on Jab 17, 2010? I do not recall...
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Line broke down on that game like I've never seen
I blame Wade on that one for rushing Colombo in, even though he didn’t deserve the job if fully healthy.
Now if I only had the time to recollect all of Peytons bonehead plays in the playoffs…
Thats right Chia
Because Keith Brooking is better than Patrick Willis
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and besides stafford and megatron. would i not be able to say that the other 51 are playing worse than other players in the league?
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Sep 6, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that was more of a response to my adament defense of Mike Jenkins
I think
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
If
Jenkins could play defense as well as you do defending him…we might have something
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
My name is NYhorn
And I…. have a problem. I defend players who suck. Some well known names like Mike Jenkins, Garrett Gilbert, and Phil Hughes.
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
LOL
dont get me started on Phil Hughes
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't help it man,
It has to be some sort of psychological complex
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
you know
I saw him throw basically a no hitter his rookie season, thought he was the next Moose, then he fell off
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair moving him to the bullpen
Every season probably isn’t helping
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
this is my opinion of Mike Jenkins
excellent athlete, great cover skills, just a grade A headcase
is one of those “front runner” type players, when everything is going well, its gravy, when things are going bad, he quits
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Porter has also done more in his career in this point than Jenkins
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
I just saw the Tracy Porter picture and its a player I like
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
because..??
He’s gotta big play on the SB or because he’s gotta ring? How many times have you seen him play. I heard he’s leaky on coverage, just what I’ve heard. Only seen him play a few times and got no idea if he’s better than jenkins or not.
I believe so, yes
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by Archie Barberio on Sep 6, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
YOU destroyed him with that response.
No offense, LYNEMAC but sit down and take it like a man.
wow i did really
Fact is leaders get credit for wins n blame for loses until romo wins in da playoffs n gets us to superbowl ppl are goin to have this arguement. I thought I said it’s nt all his fault but we are talking bout romo. We all know our D sucks n they need shoulder a lot of da blame but guess what we got dat same D. Talking bout the Jones is another story who I blame more then anybody. I like romo think he is a great qb but truth is he needs to step up n so does rest of team. No offence to u cuz been taking it
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 1:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
haha man, it was a good reply
but to your point: he has cut on his Turnovers. And I haven’t seen him make a dumb play on a BIG game (not saying he hasn’t made dumb plays). I think if Wade wouldn’t have put Colombo back in after his injury for no reason (cause Free outplayed him) back in 09, things would have turned out a little different. Still can’t get over Wade benching a player that was ballin over somebody rushed from injury just because he was the starter! Not like Free was struggling! At least we know for sure, JG won’t do that; you get injured and the backup outplays you, you lost your spot.
am i hearing things or did romo say it
Dat he needs to play better I know u think dats not my boy but he is I just saying what he has said . Just tired hearing cowboys talk I want see all them play better not just romo n we need to start addressing that D sooner then later don’t want it to cost romo his job Jones said we goin after nnamdi guess we didn’t have a back up plan since we didn’t get him n have same players on D. Time for all guys to play better cuz they owe us dat
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 1:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Of course, he's not gonna say: "I sucked it was everybody else's fault"
But I agree with you, we gotta step it up (all including Romo) and we will.
Well, I'm very proud of myself that I was able to read that
1. He is our leader and does his very best to win games
2. This has been a top 5 Offense with Romo at QB. Defense still wins championships, and the lack of success lately can be directly attributed to defense
3. No one has made excuses for him, I think they’ve pretty much stated facts
4. He has cut down on turnovers, and he is making smarter choices
5. Despite this, Elite QBs still do make dumb turnovers at the dumb time. Last year Peyton Manning threw a pick while driving towards Field Goal range/A Touchdown against the Patriots
6. No one thinks he’s in Rogers or Troy’s class. He has considerable ability though
Did you even read the article? Sorry…
Well, I’m very proud of myself that I was able to read that
Have to admit, that made me chuckle…
by CaliFanInTx on Sep 6, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh I'm not OCC but recent super bowl winners:
Green Bay Packers, New Orleans Saints (whose defense was above average but excelled at making turnovers), Pittsburgh Steelers, NY Giants (pass rush destroyed greatest statistical offense of all time), Colts (playing against Rex Grossman), Pittsburgh Steelers again… and the NE Patriots dynasty had Tom Brady but also an incredible defense. Sorry man your post was wrong on so many levels.
i thought i could read but i guess not
Lol yea ur comment made me laugh too. I guess I can’t read lol. Look I like romo think he is a great qb I don’t make excuses for him u think he is top 5 OK I don’t I do think itz a team game n didn’t put all da blame on him I also think we can win wit him so keep ur panties on itz not personal
Did I hurt ur feelings?
by LYNEMAC on Sep 6, 2011 1:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
nothing against Romo but...
I would like to take a chance on Robert Griffin III to develope behind him…Romo is getting older. I love the way Griffin goes through his reads then bolts. Great run-pass threat….
by Mac_Eleven on Sep 6, 2011 12:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
One Game... One! vs a team that lost 2 of its best players
Let’s wait till he ends the season.
Andy's Kolb was really bad so Andy hatched a plan, when his Kolb said play me now, Andy shouted no and ran. Andy tricked his mean old Kolb and traded him to the Cardinals, The Cardinals didn't know Kolb sucked, because Andy never told them
You're crazy dude
Seen him play! Won’t make it in the pros
lmao...
I knew I would get killed…but it is mire than just one game. Watched him a lot he’s a better QB than you guys think. He isn’t Quincy Carter….
by Mac_Eleven on Sep 6, 2011 12:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He dissapeared completely in the fourth too...
I’ll take an average QB that would make the right plays and keep us in the game and show his awesome clutchness in the fourth (ahem, McGee) over a flashy QB like him that would let a 24 pt lead in the fourth disappear.
again im not basing much off of that....
One game. He did play good. Good point but mcgee scares me. I’d only take Griffin if he fell to the third or fourth round…we have larger concerns
by Mac_Eleven on Sep 6, 2011 1:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It is not Romo's fault
The Cowboys pass rush sucks.
That is why the team has the problems it does.
I have seen a lot of teams with good defenses even though their defensive backs were second rate. It all comes down to pass rush.
DeMarcus Ware against the league isn’t getting it done
If U wanna win a superbowl get a pass rush.
Romo is pretty good ,it is nice to have a QB like him but the Cowboys aren’t going anywhere until they can rush the QB.
In fact this thread misses the point. The Cowboys problems begin and end with the fact that every opposing quarterback has time to read the sports section whenever they play the Cowboys just as long as Ware is blocked.
The Cowboys pass rush is a joke. Until the team understand that this above all is the main problem , every season is gonna be a disappointment.
This
Correct! This is why I felt they needed a guy like JJ Watt.
by playactionman on Sep 6, 2011 2:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They needed both Smith and JJ Watt.
Both Smith and Watt are going to have good careers.
The Cowboys could have also had Bowers
At any rate as good at Watt may be there is an even better DL prospect out there next season
by Jonathan Stern on Sep 6, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Romo isnt a leader because he doesn't get after his team mates? yeah ok
"At different times you get on them. You have to," Romo said of the linemen. "I think that’s part of the position, part of what some guys need. Other times they need encouragement. They’re getting ripped three times by a coach, right in a row, they need you to come over and let them know that, `Hey, you’re working hard, doing right, you’re going to make mistakes. You just have to understand now that you can’t make that same one again. You learned it, boom, move on, don’t let it happen again.’ It’s just a process that happens with the guys. You develop it. Sometimes you have to get on them and do it."
Brandon, you make me want to pad up and go hit some Romo haters.
Don’t forget that the O line last year was basically a bunch of cement filled barrels the other guys had to run around (except Free) and the running game was two yards and a cloud of the Barbarian’s hair. Those things are changing this year. I think the Yuglies are going to surprise people a lot because they are mobile and don’t give up, and Romo will be able to work that to his advantage.
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Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
by Tom Ryle on Sep 6, 2011 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Or
When he said that when he gets on his team mates its in the locker room where the media doesn’t see it. There is alot to Romo that we don’t see, as it should be. And you never hear him throw his team mates under the bus.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
I tried
On both my fantasy teams to get both of them because its my team names there too, instead I have Dez on one but no Romo, the other Miles Austin and no Dez or Romo… :( But thanks!
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
in my leagues I have a cousin who's an insane homer and takes Romo
ridiculously early, so no shot there… but in one league I have Felix and Dez, and the other, just Dez
The funniest thing I saw
was someone draft the Dallas defense in the 3rd round. I laughed till I cried!
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
haha oh man I've seen several of your posts
Only after fernie mentioned it did I realize what your username was. love it
Thanks
Looking forward to hearing/seeing it alot this season, Im in Afghanistan hopefully we get our AFN dish fixed so I can see a game or 2, sandstorm knocked out our last dish.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Be safe. Above all.
You honor us with your service.
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I'll say this right now and mean it
Tony Romo is a better QB than Aikman. And should he go on to win a couple SB’s like the great Troy did, I don’t think I’ll be alone.
Just overheard this convo
Terry:
Hey, Romo, I don’t know a lot. You see this? All this s$%^? It’s not your fault.
Romo:
Yeah, I know that.
Terry:
Look at me, son. It’s not your fault.
Romo:
I know.
Terry:
No. It’s not your fault.
Romo:
I know.
Terry:
No, no, you don’t. It’s not your fault.
Romo:
I know.
Terry:
It’s not your fault. All right. It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault.
Romo:
Don’t f^%$ with me.
Terry:
It’s not your fault
Romo:
Don’t f%%# with me, all right? Don’t f$#@ with me, Terry, not you.
Terry:
It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault.
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player
by thebigham on Sep 6, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Brilliant. It would be more realistic if stage directions had terry on his knees.
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What's Troy's "it"?
If they don’t do it this year…
Depending on “it”, he may well be right, “…it’s going to be hard for them to move forward”.
btw, Brandon…
Cry 'Havoc!'
btw, Just. Plain. Wrong.
Even hoisting the Lombardi, wearing a ring, the criticism and pressure won’t end.
Doesn’t end for a Cowboys QB. Period.
Cry 'Havoc!'
Thanks for all the great responses.
The truth is, I could write a book on this subject. The first draft of this post was almost 5,000 words.
Revisionist history is taking over and Cowboys fans and especially the media are blinded by this “win now” mentality, so much so that the perception of past vs present is incredibly skewed.
Troy Aikman was a great quaterback and was one of the leaders on a team that won three Super Bowls. But he also had Emmitt, Irving, Woodson, Haley, Lett and one of the best offensive lonesome in history.
People forget that for the second half of his career the Cowboys sucked and Aikman wasn’t that great. But because of the Super Bowls, none of it mattered.
Now, with Romo, nothing but a SB will be good enough. Nevermind that this is a team in a bit of a rebuild and he’s yet to have a stellar offensive line in front of him.
It really is amazing how he’s able to put up such incredible numbers, yet people are going to be so quick to move on.
How fast we forget the Chad Hutchinson years.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2011 2:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
It is a great post.
Where are my pads? Need to lay some haters out.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
You've convinced me
Romo is better than Chad Hutchinson.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I have all the faith in the world that Romo can win a Super Bowl.
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He is Elite
Tony Romo is an elite QB and he will prove it.
Manning is at the top and Brady, well, Brady got elite from throwing dump off passes and his coaches cheating.
Romo will be called top 5. He has what it takes. It’s only a matter of time.
Thre are two elite QB's in this league.
Brady and Manning.
That’s it.
Near "rant" status!
But spot on! Thanks for that!
And the hubris of texas has become too much to take - longboard8
You guys do realize Romo will be 32 this year.
I was talking to a friend who’s not a Cowboy and mentioned that to him.
He thought he was in his 20’s. 28 to be exact.
That’s what I think most of you see when you look at him.
You think he’s 28 coming into his prime.
He’s not. By the time this defense and O line is ready it will be 2013 and Romo will be 34.
by Sharksbreath on Sep 6, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
in football years he is 28 entering his prime
Since he didn’t play until he was 26, he could easily play very well until his late 30s.
In Romo we Trust
How long ago was that.
Do you really want to compare Romo to Elway.
Einstein.
LOL
Here. Let me help you guys out.
25. Jeff Hostetler- 29
26. Mark Rypien- 30
27. Troy Aikman- 26
28. Troy Aikman- 27
29. Steve Young- 33
30. Troy Aikman- 29
31. Brett Favre- 27
32. John Elway- 37
33. John Elway-38
34. Kurt Warner- 28
35. Trent Dilfer- 28
36. Tom Brady- 24
37. Brad Johnson- 34
38. Tom Brady-26
39. Tom Brady-27
40. Ben Roethlisberger-23
41. Peyton Manning-30
42. Eli Manning- 27
43. Ben Roethlisberger – 26
44. Drew Brees -30
45 Aaron Rogers – 27
why does that matter??? I'm curious, it's still football right or am I missing something
In Romo we Trust
Did you throw a lot of fits as a child?
"If we fight, I’ll need more speed because Mayweather is fast."
--Manny Pacquiao
by lildrummerboy on Sep 6, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I picture you as an 9 year old
sitting in your room surrounded by Romo posters screaming "Mom! They’re saying Romo isn’t the greatest quarterback of all time! Make em stop!!!!!!
"If we fight, I’ll need more speed because Mayweather is fast."
--Manny Pacquiao
by lildrummerboy on Sep 6, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you look at the list.
How many undrafted 32 year old QB;s do you see with a super bowl.
lol
how many undrafted qbs do you see take a team to 13-3 or even start for that matter. Romo is an acception just like brady is for a 6th rounder.
by Ronald Brody on Sep 25, 2011 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions
How about guys who went to the Superbowl over 30
Age is an overrated number for QB’s. They can play till mid 30’s, I bet Peyton plays till he is like 38. The ones who age will matter for is Vick, or Cam Newton. When they get old they will lose speed, a key part of their game. Romo will be fine till he is 35-37.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
sharksbreath is a Romo hater
He’ll say anything to rip on #9, anything, whether it makes sense or not…and it’s usually not.
In Romo we Trust
Hell look at Kitna
he is what 40? He can still play…so I mean really age is not a huge factor…unless your Brad Johnson, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe…they played a year or 2 past when they should have hung em up.
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
I'm not a Romo hater.
I’m just not expecting him to win us a Super Bowl.
To me it’s time to move on.
I know you hate it but only one undrafted QB has won a Super Bowl in NFL history.
If your waiting for a 32 year old turnover prone QB to do it your insane.
lol
if thats not hating…. what is…..
First of all he didnt start til 06 and it took manning longer to win a SB then romos been playing.
Im not promising a superbowl but hes got a better shot than ANY first round quarterback luck, moore or anyone for that matter.
by Ronald Brody on Sep 25, 2011 3:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe that
it is more of the punishment you take than anything else.
Actually players are better conditioned these days and should play longer.
Staubach is the exception, he was always in great shape.
Lock n Load
Yeah, but he doesn't have too much mileage on his body
Since he didn’t play for his first few years. He’s got a good 4-5 years left in him.
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Elway vs Romo.
Please make that argument.
good one
if romo wins a superbowl he has better stats and everything… argument made
by Ronald Brody on Sep 25, 2011 3:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish I could rec this a thousand times.
I agree with every point you make and I can relate to the frustration I sense you have. A Cowboys friend of mine referred to Romo as “soft”, another of those vague, unquantifiable labels that lazy people use when they haven’t thought through their position very well.
For all the many reasons I want the Cowboys to win a Super Bowl in the next few years, a big one is that I want to tell all of those who call Romo “soft”, “overrated”, “choker”, etc that they were totally wrong. Man, that will be a sweet day.
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while i agree that Romo has been an ugrade..
I can’t stand when majority feel as Romo ass don’t stink.. the guy has and done..
Romo rude awakening was when Kitna took over .. he witness his team strip from him.
Im for drafting a QB in 2012 . Find some one who can come in serious about this game like Brady and peyton.. A leader that can demand more from his teammates..
Romo had his time.. as long as Jg keep competition back there Dallas should never go back to post troy days …
by lostar2009 on Sep 6, 2011 2:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
QB is a very hit or miss spot
Look at all the recent busts…Jamarcus Russell, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Jimmy Clausen, Matt Leinart, Alex Smith, Vince Young, J.P. Losman….lots of misses in there…soon to be added Blaine Gabbert and Cam Newton
Does it hurt when you do that? Then stop doing that!
Yup, its as simple as that. Just find someone like Manning or Brady...
It doesn’t work that way.
Also, Kitna played good within the simplified system that JG put together for him. Let’s not forget the two blowout losses before Wade was fired.
And finally, let’s get some freaking facts straight.
Kitna was 4-5 as a starter last year. Not 5-3, like everyone tries to say he was.
He also damn near lost the AZ game on his own, but we have seem to have forgotten that part as well.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2011 2:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ugh...I just used the one stat I argued against in my post.
The point is, Kitna played well as a backup. He was not some savior that lifted this team out of the abyss.
That was all JG.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2011 2:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lol.... I was kinda confused for a sec
You aren’t saying Romo is a better Qb than Brady or Manning are you? Just that the system dictates a degree of success.
MacGruber!
No, no, no...
I’m saying that the idea of “let’s fond someone like Brady or Manning” is flawed, since there’s about 20 teams across the NFL that would kill for a freaking decent QB. It’s just as simple as saying dump Romo, find a Manning.
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by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2011 3:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why is it such a big Sin to say someone is better than Manning or Brady?
Right now I’ll take Brees over both. And I wouldn’t change my boy Romo over either.
Kitna was such an inspiration that the team was blown out the first two games he started.
Then JG took over as head coach. Hey! maybe that’s when positive leadership influenced the players.
There's nobody I want a Super Bowl more for than Tony Romo.
Ive never seen a guy take so much bad press. The thing I dont understand is that if EVERYONE says you are overrated, are you overrated anymore? If no one has said anything good about the guy since he first took over midway through 06, who exactly is overrating him?
Imagine if he did win a Super Bowl. What lengths would they go to to try to discredit it?
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Sep 6, 2011 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I still don't get it
The premise we’re supposed to accept is that “EVERYONE” is negative about poor Tony Romo. That’s just not the case. Look at this thread for crying out loud. It’s 90% favorable and any objective or critical comment is met with rants and frankly a lot of generalized nonsense. The people frothing at the mouth are the ones making the case he’s an all-time NFL great.
He plays the highest profile position on one of the highest profile teams in professional sports. If you don’t love the Cowboys, you hate them. It’s always been this way. He’s in the spotlight, it’s part of the job. The criticism he does get doesn’t seem to bother him anywhere near as much as it does the people who support him. I give him a lot of credit for having the emotional maturity to recognize these facts and deal with them. I’ve really never heard him whine about being a victim.
by StillHateTheGiants on Sep 6, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I get objective or critical comments. But....
to say something like now that he’s married or that based on how he’s wearing his hat he obviously now will take the game more series. Or, one of my favorites that he some how now will demonstrate leadership qualities that were missing because of his body language is just silly comments. I’m not saying you made those comments but they always come up as the basis of an argument that we need to go to the QBs-R-Us and pick up a new elite QB.
He’s not perfect, he has made bad decisions, he has made mistakes (ALL QBs HAVE). But his QB rating is one of the best of all time and I’ve seen him put the team in a winning position more then once only to see the D give up a long pass or a long drive at an inopportune time.
I think we owe it to him to see how he does behind a good oline and some D support at the same time.
BTW, the first thing JG does now that he’s in charge is revamp this line, I think that speaks volumes about how much control he had and now has.
by staubachfan on Sep 6, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Do they have a catalog?
QBs-R-Us
That’s got to be the quote of the day! Rec’d :)
And I agree with everything you said
When in doubt, empty your magazine
St. Tony Romo
We have TO BELIEVE he’s ours and all we got. Just 1 question for y’all – how many of you catch yourself sayin SHUT UP TROY when he announces our games? Sheesh he makes me wanna hurl sometimes but I can understand him wanting to retain his immortal “there aint nobody like me before or after status forever and ever amen and don’t you fans forget it I’M IT!!!!! NOBODY ELSE”
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Sep 6, 2011 3:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Troy is the best in the business.
Cowboys fans get mad because he’s actually willing to criticize the organization and players, while fans of other teams say he’s a homer. I find that if both sides say you are being unfair to them, you are probably just about right.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't. Troy's as pro as the day he went 22/30, 273, 4td, 0 picks, 140.7 rating
Otherwise’s unwise.
Cry 'Havoc!'
Totally agree that Troy is as balanced as they come
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Yeah, NO ONE has ever said anything good about Romo.
This whole thread, other than your post is people trashing Romo.
People say he is overrated because a lot of people consider him elite when he has not yet earned it. He has been very good but not elite for his whole career, and has not YET moved into the highest echelon. Prematurely saying he has makes him overrated.
I don’t disagree that people will try to discredit him if he does win a Super Bowl, just look at the way people on this board do it to Eli Manning.
by Baked Potato Soup on Sep 7, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
lol
eli manning is a pimple on the ass of romo. romo wishes he has the giants defense
by Ronald Brody on Sep 25, 2011 3:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I want to say that I consider myself a fairly knowledgable football person.
But, I absolutely miss T.O. He added something Cowboys hadn’t had in a long time. Confidence and controversy that wasn’t coming from Jerry Jones. And I know it killed Jerry to get rid of T.O.
Now was T.O a bomb waiting to happen, yes. Would he be the same now? Hell to the no. A lot of people are loving the energy Rob is bringing to this defense by his snarky comments and swagger(really hate using that word) I view T.O as having the same effect on offense.
Just a personal wish/fantasy.
QB Leadership meant something prior to the mid 70s
Back then the QB called plays. They were responsible for strategy having a feel for what worked and what wasn’t working on the field. He had to have the players buy into what he wanted them to do. They had to follow him to be victorious. (Leader means having followers). Back then wins and losses were much more on the shoulders of the QB.
In today’s games, OCs, game management, play calling and leadership is coming more from the coaching staff. The QB is still very relevant on every play but pinning a win or loss on them is just a holdover or tradition from a previous time.
I don't think Staubach called his own plays
I believe Landry handled that.
"If we fight, I’ll need more speed because Mayweather is fast."
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by lildrummerboy on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Roger offered to stay another season
if he could call the plays, but Landry still refused.
"If we fight, I’ll need more speed because Mayweather is fast."
--Manny Pacquiao
by lildrummerboy on Sep 6, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Football has not changed, just ask Rob Ryan...
HCs and QBs still fight over which play to run…
Do you Romo read Parcells' Quarterback Commandments??
1. Ignore other opinions – Press or TV, agents or advisors, family or wives, friends or relatives, fans or hangers on – ignore them on matters of football, they don’t know what’s happening here.
2. Clowns can’t run a huddle – don’t forget to have fun but don’t be the class clown. Clowns and leaders don’t mix. Clowns can’t run a huddle.
3. Fat QBs can’t avoid the rush – A quarterback throws with his legs more than his arm. Squat and run.
4. Know your job cold – this is not a game without errors. Keep yours to a minimum. Study.
5. Know your own players – Who’s fast? Who can catch? Who needs encouragement? Be precise. Know your opponent.
6. Be the same guy every day – in condition. Preparing to lead. Studying your plan. A coach can’t prepare you for every eventuality. Prepare yourself and remember, impulse decisions usually equal mistakes.
7. Throwing the ball away is a good play – sacks, interceptions and fumbles are bad plays. Protect against those.
8. Learn to manage the game – personnel, play call, motions, ball handling, proper reads, accurate throws, play fakes. Clock. Clock. Clock. Don’t you ever lose track of the clock.
9. Get your team in the end zone – passing stats and TD passes are not how you’re going to be judged. Your job is to get your team in the end zone and that is how you will be judged.
10. Don’t panic – when all around you is in chaos, you must be the hand that steers the ship. If you have a panic button so will everyone else. Our ship can’t have a panic button.
11. Don’t be a celebrity QB – we don’t need any of those. We need battlefield commanders that are willing to fight it out, every day, every week and every season and lead their team to win after win after win.
by dcsince77 on Sep 6, 2011 5:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
top 10 are legit
but #11 is nonsense because every star qb in the league becomes a celebrity, how many commercials has Manning made?
In Romo we Trust
This topic seems familiar...
All the best to Tony this year, lead us to a championship. He will raise the bar this year and hopefully his rating will come down to Aikman-level, yes when we had a running game to complement the passing game.
I will agree with the pro-Romo fans that he needs a line that can not only protect but open holes for Felix, DeMarco and Tashard. Maybe even Miles.
McGee had a tremendous pre-season, give him the ball 7-2 TD-INT now and has thrown 62% overall in pre-season. He doesn’t fumble and he doesn’t throw INT’s – less than 1% combined pre-season and regular season. Give him the ball, he’s ready.
If Romo fails McGee will be there to pick him up, either of them can get us deep into the playoffs. We just need to get the team together and we should be able to get back to that 92-93 Jimmy Johnson team level and that early 70’s to mid-80’s Landry team level.
McGee is the future, the time is now for Romo. The time is now for this defence…
doesn't throw INTs?? Guess you missed the Dolphins game
McGee won’t see the field this season unless both Romo and Kitna get hurt
In Romo we Trust
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