Tick-Tock Goes the Romo-Clock?
One of the biggest failures of the season that was 2011 was the inability to capitalize on the incredible season had by our gun-slinging Sheriff, good ole #9. Despite overwhelming waves of pessimism and adversity crashing down around him all season, Romo was able to put together a marvelous 2011 campaign in which he compiled his 2nd most yards in a season, 2nd most TDs, and a career best in QB rating. Yet, as soon as the season came to an abrupt end against the Giants, the doubters came charging in. One of the most focused upon aspects of the scrutiny revolved around nothing that Romo failed in, or didn't do, or did too much of, but rather in the one inevitable fact of life we all face: He is getting old.
3 more years. That's what the professional pessimists give us. Just like a terminal death sentence hanging over our heads, Dr. Football Pundit and Nurse Know-It-All tell us that in 3 years Romo will be plugged into the respirator, holding on for dear life. Father Time will ravage the superb skill set relied upon by Romo. He will be a reincarnation of Vinny Testaverde in a Dallas helmet, throwing out his back trying to bend down for a snap and drinking metamucil on the sideline instead of Gatorade. According to Dr. Sports Illustrated and Dr. BleacherReport, the results are conclusive. We must accept this inevitable fact, and it is time to start making funeral preparations.
But hold on my friends. I believe it is time for a second opinion. Why must we say goodbye, with utmost certainty, to our dear friend Tony. He after all is the man who rescued this franchise from the depths of 5-11 and 6-10 and mediocrity. Why must it be so set in stone that Tony will crumble to the ever advancing age monster by the age of 35. After examining the facts and trends of the NFL and Tony's career, I have come to a wholly different conclusion. One you may be interested in reading.
The proof is in the pudding...or at least that's where I found it. Mmm Chocolate.
So, the facts. Tony Romo is 31 right now, and will be 32 by the time the 2012 NFL season kicks off. As seems to be the trend for professional athletes, the mid-30s start to see a decline in performance, no matter the talent level (unless you're Barry Bonds and have an office at BALCO). But let me lay out for you my thoughts, and offer to you three main reasons for the support of the longitude of the career de Romo.
Reason 1: Lack of Wear and Tear
First things first. Tony Romo is the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, so naturally he plays half of his games in Dallas. This is a good start in preserving his body. The warm weather and lack of destructive elements saves his body from harsh conditions, and he is subjected to only 3 or 4 truly cold weather games per year at most.
Also, as we all know, Tony was not a highly touted top-5 draft pick handed the keys to the Cadillac straight out of the draft. He didn't even see the field for the first 3 years of his career. Romo is 47-30 in his career, playing in only 77 games. For comparison, Tom Brady has played in 159. Drees Brees has 153 under his belt. Even Eli Manning is at 119. His body has not taken the toll that most other quarterbacks his age have had to endure, and is surely better off for it.
Finally, Tony is an elusive player. I realize this is one thing most likely to deteriorate with age, but this has also allowed him to avoid all of the earth-shattering hits (OK not all) he would have taken already without this skill. He does not take the bone-crushing hits like Mike Vick or the head-rattling smashes like Eli Manning (I particularly like that second one). Instead he makes plays like this and avoids the big hits.
Reason 2: NFL Built for Quarterbacks to Survive
It doesn't take a genius to realize the game of football is changing. It has transformed from a smash-mouth defensive league into a high-flying offensive game, and the biggest benefactors are the quarterbacks. If a mosquito lands on a quarterback's throwing shoulder it is a penalty. The precedent has been set so that the pass-throwers are the most protected players on the field, and hitting them even slightly wrong will earn you a guaranteed 15 yard penalty. This is good news from Romo.
For more evidence, lets look at the the modern quarterback. Players such as Matt Schaub, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, and Carson Palmer are all within plus or minus one year from Romo. Do you think other teams spend all their time planning for the impending downfall of their QBs? I bet the Saints don't. Other players like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, and Kurt Warner all extended (or continue to extend) their lavish talents well into and past their mid-30s. Brett Favre led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game at 40 years old. Kurt Warner was 37 when the Cardinals took on the Steelers in Super Bowl 43. John Elway won back-to-back Super Bowls at the ages of 37 and 38. The precedent has been set that older quarterbacks can win in the NFL.
Reason 3: DeMarco Murray
This one is the most speculative, possibly wishful of the group. Yet, even in such a small sample size, we have seen the effect DeMarco Murray can have on the Dallas Cowboys. He has the ability to run through a tackler or past them, being both a home run hitter and consistent slap hitter at the same time. If DeMarco can continue to take the load off of Tony's broad shoulders, the passing game will thrive even more. Pass rushers that would normally be flying off the edges with the singular goal of making Romo bleed will now be held in check by the threat of a top-tier running back flying past them. If Murray can be a 1200 or 1300 yard rusher for this team, Romo will reap the benefits. He will see secondaries more empty than he ever has, with teams moving people into the box to stop the run. This opens up play-action pass and causes more man coverage, two things our receivers excel with.
The rise of DeMarco is contingent on our offensive line. If this group can continue to improve through either the draft or free agency, we may be in store for great things. If DeMarco is in store for great things, Tony will be also.
Tony Romo is one of the most polarizing figures in sports. People love him and love to hate him, just as they do the team he plays for. He has put up numbers that rival the elite players in this league year in and year out, but never seems to get the respect he seemingly has earned. Maybe Tony does start to decline at age 35. But who is to say he won't get better from now until then? He played one of the best seasons of his life this past year, and it was accompanied by likely the least talented team he has had to work with. It would be surprising if he didn't continue to progress. It is a scary thought for NFL defenses to think he has not yet reached the pinnacle of his game.
Like it or not, Tony Romo will be the quarterback of this team for a long time still. By examining important factors in Romo's game, environment, and team, it looks to be that he will be the QB for even longer than most expect. And he will continue to play at the highest of levels. This makes me a happy fella. It should make all of you happy, too.
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I believe romo can play @ a high
level for a good 4-5 more yrs “IF” that oline does their damn job but rite now i don’t trust that part of the team… Get DeCastro & lets call it a day.
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I couldn't agree more
I can’t believe how many ignorant people blame Romo for all the Cowboy failures since he has been starting qb. Yes like many qb’s he has blown some games. But he is also will go down at least stat wise as one of the top qb’s to play this game. This guy’s numbers speak for themselves. I believe he would of won multiple super bowls with the teams Aikman had to play for. But the defense for Dallas, running back, full back, offensive line just hasn’t got the job done since Romo took over as qb. Look at the playoff appearance when they played at Minny. The offensive line nearly got Romo killed. And of course the defense secondary in particular played terrible. Dallas is set offensively for awhile. Hope to god they resign Robinson. Then with a healthy Fia at fullback and Murray this team will put up some points. Costa sucks need a new center he can’t even hike the damn ball. Free had a very bad year also. Need some work on offensive line. And the defense well besides Ratliff, Lee and Ware not a one really is worth anything. Jenkins i guess maybe scandrick but even those two really not worth much.
Agreed.
Maybe we can trade defenses with Alabama (with a few exceptions, obviously).
And good point about the playoff game vs. Vikings. Never even gave Romo a shot because he was eating turf the whole game. The ability to keep him upright and give him time will likely define this team going forward
by thesharpestnick on Jan 10, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
This article is silly.
Lack or wear and tear. Romo missed plenty of games last year. Shoulder. This year he was hurt for half the season. Ribs.
No wear and tear there. He’s got the body of a 26 year old. LOL.
He’s already showing the age of a 30+ old person. You get injured more often. He’s been injured the last two years if you haven’t noticed.
Beermnan: I believe he would of won multiple super bowls with the teams Aikman had to play for.
Yet you have the nerve to call others ignorant. LOL.
Troy Aikman did not have key turnover after key turnover during those Super Bowl years in big games.
It’s like the INT against. The Giants didn’t happen. We barely beat a bunch of below average teams in Nov. and you must have thought we were going to the bowl. Yet and behold another Dec collapse from the Cowboys was right around the corner.
Let me explain something to you. Undrafted Free agent QB’s don’t win Super Bowls.
Out of the thousands of undrafted free agent QB’s that have been in this league only 1 has done it. Ever.
Waiting on Romo is like living on a prayer.
It ain’t happening captain.
I could care less about his stats. One QB has been in more Super Bowls the last 6 years than any other. His name is Ben Rothlesberger. Compare his stats to Romo’s. Then compare how they play in big games.
by Sharksbreath on Jan 10, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't get the wear and tear argument either. The guy is getting older. It is not like he is a car that has been garaged for decades. Human bodies do not work that way
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Ok..
Getting injured has more to do with the line in front of him then it does with him. It is improving now, and will be a strong unit by the time Romo becomes more frail.
Your argument about undrafted QBs not winning seems pointless. Do you think teams would have passed on him knowing what they do now? The 1 you speak of is Kurt Warner I’m assuming. Turned out pretty good. How about Warren Moon? He turned out ok. For every Peyton Manning there is a Ryan Leaf, being drafted high does not guarantee anything. Tom Brady might agree with me.
And then you bring up Roethlisberger. The one player who has had the luxury of playing in front of one of the premier O-Lines in football, and also being able to fall back upon the best defense in football. Put Big Ben on the Cowboys and we don’t have a division championship in the last decade, regardless of any Super Bowls. Also, I could have sworn he lost this past weekend to the Tebows…
So excuse me but I am going to keep living on that prayer.
by thesharpestnick on Jan 10, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Troy Aikman did not have key turnover after key turnover during those Super Bowl years in big games."
Guess you missed that 94 NFC Championship game.
Plus 1 million
Also , remember the 11 sack game against the Eagles as an example of how a HOF QB
performs without protection
Hey be fair
he only had four turonvers in that game
Sharksbreath you are kidding right????
You didn’t watch the two San Francisco games did you? You didn’t see him (Aikman) toss an INT or two against them in the playoffs? Where were you? Don’t sit there and qualify a statement with a lie. That doesn’t prove anything. SF 38-28 Aikman threw 3 INTS that day… giving SF a 21-0 lead before the first quarter was half done. Did the same thing earlier in the year when we played them… oh yea and he did that with one of the best OL history.
As far as Ben is concerned he got the benefit of a great Stealers Defense… I believe one of his Superbowl QB ratings was below 40. Hmmm.. he’s so damn good.
2005 Superbow 10 comp on 22 attempts 166 yds 0TD 2INT Atwaan Randle El threw the TD to put the game on ice to Hines Ward.
2009 Ben Rapersburger 21 Comp 30 Att 256 1TD 1INT VS Kurt Warner 31 Comp 43 Att 377 yards 3 TDs 1Int… Who was the better QB. When
RexP
Thousands of UDFA QB's that have started for teams?? Really??
Give us that list so we can stop pointing at you and laughing out loud. I am not the fan of Romo that Terry is, but thousands? List and stats please, or let us keep laughing at you. HAHA! And yeah, it’s all Romos’ fault, again HAHAHAHA. You do not see the difference between the Steelers organization and the Cowboys during the years you mention?
Like I said, I am not defending Tony Romo as much as I am amazed at the lack of basic knowledge you have of the game, or numbers you possess. Troy is one of the best QB’s that I have ever seen, but to say he did not have really bad games when leading a team that was about the best I have ever seen is even funnier!! again, HAHAHAHAHA. TRY HAVING A FACT or an idea of reality when you post.
Good Post
I have been hard on Romo when he has played badly but I have to say he really pulled it together late in the year.
I think Tony will be great for years. However I am not sure the circumstances you outlined will extend his career beyond a year or maybe two.
MacGruber!
Most important of all, he needs help
Romo has proven that he can be an elite QB but he can’t do it by himself. When he needs to win games alone, that is when the horrible interceptions and baffling decisions start appearing.
He needs a solid running game and a legit defense because too much pressure on just him is not working for us.
Lack of wear and tear?
How many Michael Boley hits does he have to take?
Romo has not proven durable nor stout. He has missed 13 games in the past 4 seasons and he gets up slow after every big hit.
To be fair, he’s taken way too many shots. 36 sacks this year and some big hits after the throw.
I’m betting he won’t make it as far you think he will because this team is still 2 years away from having an O-line that he can truly thrive behind.
The one thing he may have going for him that might prolong his career, as you so skillfully pointed out, is the impact Murray could have. He’s the X-factor.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I agree with you
He has taken too many shots. But, as you point out, the o-line will be peaking at the time when we will need it most. I would rather have the O-line peaking at a time when we need him to be protected rather than when he can evade most hits.
Couldnt say it better myself though. Murray is the X-Factor. Lets all hope he is the player we think he is
by thesharpestnick on Jan 10, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Whether the O-line peaks at that time, some other time or never, is something one cannot predict
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Exactly why we need to shore up the OL to protect Romo.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
LOL
Blings you know you are making an excellent argument for Drafting an Guard in the first. LOL
You know I’m just pulling your chain, but it’s true. Two would be nice… now if you can pull off getting Nicks in FA and DeCastro in the draft and Romo can stand pack there and have a pizza and a beer before tossing a 70 yarder to Dez.
RexP
Getting a guard? yes
Drafting one at #14, no.
:-)
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Romo has sat out multiple games with injuries for how many years now?
Injuries beget injuries, I’ve never heard of a single player in the league who all of a sudden got over injury problems.
if we improve interior OL play, then maybe
Romo’s generally avoided hard hits when you compare him to a guy like Vick, but hes had:
some sort of hand injury in 4 years in his nfl career (06,07,08,11). 3 were minor.
broken clavicle (10)
broken rib/punctured lung (11)
Likely significant internal injuries in 2008 when the Oline decided to just stop blocking for him in the Giants and Eagles games.
Roger Staubach played until he was 37
at a very high level…he also suffered major injuries throughout his career and took many hard hits. So it’s not inconceiveable that Romo could do likewise.
He also won a Super Bowl at age 35
And didnt start his career until much later like Romo.
And in terms of wear and tear, I think he likely suffered some in that place called “Vietnam”
Getting hit by Michael Boley in comparison doesn’t seem so bad.
by thesharpestnick on Jan 10, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
unlike Romo didn't he lead the Cowboys to their 1st championship in his 1st season as a starter?
not exactly a fair comparison…
unlike Romo didn't he start with a TEAM that was consistantly one of the top team in the country period.
Wasn’t it said from 1968 through 1980 the road to the SUPERBOWL went through Dallas.
RexP
and we had great defensive ends in those day.
I want things to be like they were at that time again
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 12, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Staubach was just weeks shy of 30 when he won his first Super Bowl
Personally, I’m disappointed when I see a Cowboy fan talking about the number of Romo’s Super Bowl rings, as if that has anything to do with his value to the team. Even serious fans of other teams don’t pull that crap out until they’re cornered by superior stats – of which Romo has many.
The Romo – Staubach comparison is not a bad one at all. These two stand above all other Cowboy QBs in terms of elusiveness in the pocket and passer rating. That’s impressive enough. Romo also is building a portfolio of come-from-behind moments. All this with a clearly inferior line compared to Staubach and especially compared to Aikman. Not to mention Emmitt and the 70s RBs, though that looks to be changing with the arrival of DeMarco Murray.
Realism is squarely on the side of the optimists in this argument, so excuse me if I consider you (not YOU, the others :) … a lesser fan for thinking otherwise!!! :)
Super Bowl Cowboys ... JG rides the Ware-Ryan-Romo train ... yea, that's what I said ... you got a problem with that?
by DalaiLuke on Jan 12, 2012 5:19 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
thanks Fernie ... can't be said or +1'd enough!
Super Bowl Cowboys ... JG rides the Ware-Ryan-Romo train ... yea, that's what I said ... you got a problem with that?
Holy Crap!
A DalaiLuke Sighting!!!
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 12, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
DalaiLurker
Super Bowl Cowboys ... JG rides the Ware-Ryan-Romo train ... yea, that's what I said ... you got a problem with that?
Sorry Dali
had to do it…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 14, 2012 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
Romo probably has PTSD from being behind his O-line
but seriously, Staubach missed the entire 1972 season with a separated shoulder and was concussed throughout his career
It is unbeilivable that there are still people arguing that Romo is the problem
If you compare today’s team, with the cowboy’s of the 90’s, you might (based on potential, rather than record) argue that today’s talent at receiver and tight-end is better.
But how about defense? Other than Ware, and Lee, how many of the current roster would you say could have started in the cowboy’s of the 90s?
Romo is entering his prime years, couldn't agree more
This notion that Romo is getting old is silly…great qbs are like fine wine, they simply get better with age
In Romo we Trust
Even wine turns to vinegar eventually.
Romo is getting older, unless he has caused a rupture in the time-space continuum and has stopped the march of time. I know you love the guy, worship him, would give your life for him, but I doubt your trust in Romo extends that far
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
by Seanrude on Jan 10, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
getting older doesn't necessarily mean he's getting "old"
if you know what I mean. Age is relative just like anything else.
In Romo we Trust
Yes, it does mean he is getting old
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
He's Found The Fountain!
Right along with Cap’n Jack, arggggh! Our World Class Top 5 6th year starter is more like a bottle from those 6s of Bud Light he’s been downing on his sofa while watching a quality QB like Miracle Timmy lead his team to a victory against the vaunted Pittsburgh killers. After a while, that Bud Light gets harsh and bitter. Like dear ol’ Antonio…
hold on...
did you just call tim tebow a quality QB?
by thesharpestnick on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
If you think Tebow is a good passer, there's absolutely no hope for you
Might as well go ahead and keep believing in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy.
In Romo we Trust
I don't know how much longer Romo will last but I don't see how that changes what the team should do,
There is no FA upgrade out there over Romo. We still could use a new back-up whether Romo plays at this level for two more years or twenty. Romo is currently good (or great, to be more accurate) enough to stave off any “QB in the first round” talk. And we should already be operating on a plan that says to take a QB in the draft (in the mid-rounds) if the value is there.
The only way it changes anything is if you think Romo’s play (or health) is so questionable going forward that we should be looking for a QB at #14 to be the immediate QB of the future. And since it seems pretty clear that is not the case, debating whether Tony will play at the exact same level for 1 or 3 or 5 or 10 more years just seems pointless. Even if he drops by a few QB rating points next year, that won’t change the decisions of the Cowboys in any way.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
by Creasy729 on Jan 10, 2012 8:16 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
agreed, good post
I will say that I think Romo’s health is a big enough worry that backup qb is a legitimate need – hes missed a significant portion of time or played hurt in 3 of the last 4 seasons now. But I agree that its not time to think about replacing him yet.
Absolutely. I hope they find somebody not named Stephen McGee to be Romo's back-up.
And, I’m glad they seem to be conscious of that fact considering their attempted waiver wire bid for Kyle Orton.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Romo's injuries weren't seriously chronic in nature
They were broken bones that fully healed. Its not like he’s dealing with head injuries or bad knees or back.
In Romo we Trust
does it matter?
unless our plan is to considerably upgrade the oline I think you have to take a backup qb.
Romo’s injuries are all over the place, so I agree they are not chronic. But hes suffered enough (in relatively few hits really) that I think we need to be prepared for him to sit a couple games.
#2 QB #14 Team
How is the #2 QB helping exactly? Time for #9 to be replaced by #7. If coaches are going, then players need to go too… and I pick Witten over Romo and Austin. If they all stay great, the offense looks like it just needs 2 quality OG’s. But does it also need a QB who can be trusted with the season on the line?
Matt Ryan didn’t look any better though… maybe the NFL competition is just that good… maybe it will be a long-time before the Cowboys become the Cowboys again… at least we’re doing something on the coaching side…
Stephen McGee is not the future.
The guy can’t go from read to read consistently. He has happy feet to the extreme. If you have any scouting sense, you can see from a mile away that the guy is a career back-up at best. I could care less if he is tall and has a strong arm. That is about 1/8th of what playing QB is actually all about.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Dude put the #7 crap on ice
No matter how many times you say it… IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!! Wake up from the dreamworld and see things realistically. Stephen McGee will never be a quality NFL QB … he can’t make decisions fast enough… or when being pressured. He has good mobility and he’s tough can make the throws but brain locks up under pressure. Sorry dude… he just doesn’t have it.
RexP
What do you see in McGee exactly???
The dude plays scared and is afraid to throw down field and make plays. He’ll never be a starter anywhere playing like that.
In Romo we Trust
What do you see in Romo exactly?
What I see is he’s won 9 games in 2 years.
Do you want me to list before and after effect or just the current effect!
I’m interested to know…. or how bout this THE AIKMAN ERA PRE-ROMO ERA…. THE ROMO ERA - and the POSTROMO ERA.. or as you want to call it the Stephen McGee ERA…
PREROMO ERA led by the likes of QB’s by the name of Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Testicleverde, and Bleedingsomuch, at which time winning was just a dream…. and along came Jones… tall walking Jones… smooth talking Jones… errrr I mean Romo.
1996 took a 5-11 team and made them a post season contender every year. We actually have a passing attack which is something we haven’t had since Aikman retired.
We had two seasons 13-3 and 11-5 under his watch… he was injured for three games in 08 and out most of 2010… yes he one 1 win and 5 losses in 2010 but if you want to hang those losses on him…. then I guess you better take away the 70% completion rate. This is how you judge a QB. QB’s only control one thing what they do on the field. They don’t call the plays, tackle, kick, run, block, or hold the clipboard(McGee’s Job). So far he’s broken almost every Cowboys single season record and will break career records also. He’s the 2nd rated QB in the NFL career passer rating behind only one person Rodgers. Do you want me to go on! He’s the only reason this team has a chance of getting to the playoffs let alone winning them. Without him we rely on the:
POST-ROMO ERA or THE MCGEE EXPERIMENT:
The first 1-15 season since Jimmy Johnson was hired as head coach. We get the first pick in the draft and draft some kid who everyone thinks is the next coming of Christ not named Tebow. He does well in the Preason but under the pressure of the NFL defenses he fails to perform and the Cowboys go 3-13…. the final game is against the Eagles who go on to enter the playoffs as the wild card team and win their first SUPER BOWL!!!! and it’s all your fault
RexP
Can I try?
I see a QB that despite broken Ribs, a sieve for an O-line (39 sacks, 19th in the league and 81 hits, 23rd in the league), a non existent running game( for 3/4th of the year), WR’s and TE’s that had to be told where to line up half the time, and a Defense that can make Rex Grossman look like Tom Brady,
Still manages to lead his team to an 8-8 record, while managing a 102 Passer rating, with a 3:1 TD/INT ratio, and a 66% completion percentage.
Name me 1 QB that could do better under those conditions……
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 14, 2012 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
I believe I said it last year but... no support... so OK I'll go with your Romo-talk
His play is not affected by the injuries, so you win that argument, he had his best year when he was 31+. You should be concerned about the injuries since he has only had 2 years injury-free. He did start all 16 games this year though. He was ineffective in his final game playing with a swollen hand, but so was Matt Ryan, so you win there.
The only weakness in your argument is this… why does he seem to suck in December/January? The one time he was stellar – vs Philly in ’09 – his defense and OL was playing as good or better than anybody.
OK, I get it, he needs a supporting cast but… does he have to have an all-star team to succeed un December? Big Ben doesn’t seem to need it…
Sometimes great players, make other players great. It’s character, I’m not convinced that Romo is the RKG… and for some reason he plays right into the hand of the media, everytime.
Sorry but, I think you CAN improve at the QB spot.
its hard
earlier this year, the future at qb looked far brighter than it does now. Sanchez, Flacco, Freeman, Ponder and Dalton all flamed out at some point (Freeman in week 1) – Dalton looked absolutely terrible the last couple weeks of the season, though I would take him over the rest.
The only young qbs with upside seem to be Stafford, Ryan (who I don’t like) and Newton. Look at a list of top 10 qbs in any stat whatsoever and they are almost all established stars.
If we had a top 3 pick, I would of course be in favor of taking Luck or Griffin. But we don’t. and I doubt anyone else would supplant Romo within 3 years.
Big Ben absolutely needs it
as do most qbs. Without a great defense Roethlisberger would be thought of as an average qb at best.
In Romo we Trust
would he?
his YPA is up there with Romo year after year and his qb rating has been in the top 5 in 3 years of the last 5 I believe. That is ignoring the eye test. Nothing about him says average qb.
I admit the Steelers have a great defense which prevents him from forcing the ball like Brees and Peyton Manning had to do in prior years and Romo some as well, but there is nothing about Ben aside from pure bias that would back up your claim that he is an average qb.
Wrong again Terry
Roethlisberger is a great effing QB, with or without the Steelers defense
... and so is Romo, that's the point
Super Bowl Cowboys ... JG rides the Ware-Ryan-Romo train ... yea, that's what I said ... you got a problem with that?
when the game is on the line Roethlisberger performs
he’s been doing it since his rookie year… Romo has done it some of the time, Roethlisberger just seems to get it done more often and when it counts.
Terry, I will say that you think a little more of Tony than I do, but
I will say that he is more than talented enough to lead a team to a Superbowl. He is a very, very good, to borderline great QB. And if he has a really good O-Line and supporting cast on both sides of the ball, which he does not, even with the mistakes that he DOES MAKE, he can be our man.
I do hope that you will be vindicated one day when we bring home the Lombardi, nothing will please me more. I only disagree to the degree of how good Tony is, but again he is more than capable to win it all with the right team behind him. Please do not label me a “Hater” because I think he is “Only Very good to great”.
He's good but like most analysts say... lets not call him elite until he wins something significant yet
He’s done well for an Eastern Illinois QB, what did you expect? He could accomplish more and he IS building a good character, just don’t expect a championship. He’s not a winner, just a good QB, maybe a top 10 QB, maybe top 15. After this year we’re saying he’s top 5 but that doesn’t mean he’s going to win us the Superbowl.
What do analyst say about Marino?
Or Kelly… or Tarkenton… or omg the list could go on forever.
scraig you don’t like Romo but your opinion is what it is… you think that the Cowboys should win every Superbowl so if the QB doesn’t take you their it’s his fault. That’s not the right way to think. This is a team sport not a one man show.
RexP
Actually it has been a one man show since Jimmy left.
If this team actually had others to make decisions this team would be in a better position.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 14, 2012 6:48 AM CST up reply actions
you never pass up a top QB
but I think Romo is good until 36.
Both Rodger and Danny White played good football at 36
BTW, Tonys' career length will depend on how we continue to build the O- Line
Read that to mean, draft DeCastro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you have no clue how long Romo's career will last and don't pretend like you do
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Neither do the folks repeatedly saying he'll be done in a couple of years. Lately,
a whole lot folks are acting like they’re got crystal balls.
Besides Trent Diffler won a Superbowl so did Jim Mcmahon
If your defense is good enough you don’t need a top QB
Great examples - both of them had all time tenacious D's - Also throw in Brad Johnson & Tampa
Sheli , who is talented but not elite ,benefited from 2 things
1. D that came alive late
2. Receivers who make him look way better than he is.
I doubt we will see many 70+ yard catch and runs next year.. The probability of having so
many missed tackles , as occurred on those long runs, defies the odds.
The Dallas d is the black hole. It will take more than one year.....
to rebuild it. The o line is still a broken dam. It doesn’t just have one hole it has 4. I don’t see the Cowboy’s being smart enough to put a team around Romo. He will forever be Dan Fouts imo. Great stats guy but never really able to make a serious run at a superbowl.
Romo has been hit a lot. Been injured a lot. He might have 5 good years remaining or he could have 2. Fact is , none of know for sure.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 11, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
Lets say we come down with Quinton Coples , Stephen Glimore and Chandler Jones
+ Jason Jones.
That would fix stuff in a hurry
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 11, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
FOCUS ON THE O-LINE
and the defense will catch up enough to be passable
We have Arkin and Nagy. I don’t know about them but they need their chance.
Much more important . We should not focus on anything in the draft . We ought to get the best players that fall to us.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 11, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Jonathan what's so great about Coples???? He's not that good... he's lazy, doesn't play the run well.
A half decent lineman can block him… he showed little or nothing in his bowl game. I mean it was like watching a statue rush the passer. Chandler Jones is a miss or hit project maybe middle rounds and I don’t even know who Stephen Glimore is? Looked him up because I have no idea? Jones isn’t much better… he had one good season but hasn’t done anything since. Jones hasn’t topped four tackles in a game this season and hasn’t recorded a sack since Week 10… has only 3 sacks for the year. I’m just so confused… people tout someone looking at him through rose colored glasses… he’s a JAG… Spencer is better by far.
RexP
I am not anti Spencer. I would hope we find a way to keep him . But are you happy with the defensive ends we have? What is worse is that it is unlikely that any of the players in the draft outside of round one are going to be any better . Do we need to improve the defense. We then we need to improve DE and CB.
Coples plays the run well from scouting reports. He might bust he has a high ceiling .
Higher than any other defensive lineman in the draft. Compare him to two guys you seems to like Jared Crick or Billy Winn -there is no comparison. Devon Still runs a 5.0 40 which is worse than Marcus Spears. What is the chance is he going to be a big time rusher?
http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/quinton-coples-90/
Like him or not Coples far more productive and than Winn (7.5 sacks versus 4.0 sacks) and far more talented than Crick. In fact Coples has more talent than JJ Watt.
What is so special about the other defensive lineman (outside rushers) in the draft? . The all have major flaws. That is kind of the problem. I don’t think they will be much better than Clifton Geathers or Lissy if at all.
None of them are probably going to be better rushers than Coples or Jones. They don’t have the skills.
Jason Jones has more talent than any DL the Cowboys are going to get after round one. Billy Win had 4 sacks against college competition. Jones got three working from the inside. He was the guy the Titans choose over Albert Haynesworth, He was AFC defensive player of the week once. From the outside he ought to be able to rush better.
So if we can’t get Mario Williams , Calis Campbell or Cliff Avril then the next best option is Jones.
if we can’t get Mario Williams , Calis Campbell Cliff Avril , Jason Jones or Coples then we ought to accept the fact that we have very little chance of getting better at defensive end cause the other dudes will be pretty much like what we already have. Most people on this blog aren’t happy with that option.
Chandler Jones I feel is like Jason Piere Paul. He has got super blood lines. But we will see more during the workouts.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 12, 2012 2:36 AM CST up reply actions
Dude....
Our pass rush is not as big an issue as our pass defense is… we were 7th in the league in sacks and 7th against the rush…that’s what the front 7 is supposed to do. From there you have ILB, CB, S to keep coverage on the receivers. The fact that we won’t be getting an option on Coples even though some draft boards have him as far down as the 3rd Round. I don’t like Coples.. period I watched him play every game this year… he’s worse then Spencer ever was or will be. Why would I want to replace Spencer with another Spencer… he sucks.
I have no interest in Billy Winn or Crick or Devon Still but if they are there in the 3rd Round they will probably be good to decent picks. I have said go DeCastro and the OL first or CB… if Alabama’s Safety is available in the 2nd I would take him, then worry about the DE and OLB… you have better luck succeeding with them in the later rounds then you do with OL or CBs …. the ratio is pretty large. 3% for Guards and 8% for DE and OLB.
You especially consistently talk about taking this guy and I can give you odds … wager on this one… He will be a bust!!!! Quintin Coples will be no more then a 4 sack per year guy his entire career. He can’t compete against the higher level competition. Mark Ingram on the other hand would be a decent choice… if we had a shot at him.
RexP
Our pass rush is DeMarcus Ware against the league. Isn’t that so? That is what our pass rush is. And that is the problem. Again I don’t think there is any one on this board who is happy with the current situation. To be more accurate describe the situation we get almost no pass rush from our defensive ends. So that is pretty good place to focus on .
I don’t want to replace Spencer , I want to complement him. I am not an anti Spencer guy, ( If we got someone better that would be great but we can get by with him ) I want to find someone that gives some pressure. If we get some more pass rush from our line it can make Spencer better.
We not only talked about Coples but Jason Jones and he has every bit as much upside as Billy Winn or Jared Crick if not more. And he would only cost money – not draft choices. Do you know of a better option at DE That the Cowboys could actually get and afford?
As for Coples , I think he is a 7 -8 sack a year guy ( similar to Carlos Dunlop ) . But for the record even if he is a 4 sack a year guy he would be an upgrade on what the Cowboys have at defensive end.
And as everyone knows more pass rush equals better pass defense. Indeed the 1986 Giants went 14-2 and won the Superbowl with Elvis “Toast” Patterson and CB.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 14, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
Mark Ingram is interesting but he weighs 270 pounds is that a LB?
He is less than 6-3 could he play DE at 6-2?
Again I don’t think DeMacus Ware against the league is going to get it done. What is worse is that he will be 30 soon and he has neck issues.
I feel that Demarcus Ware against the league isn’t enough, and pretty soon we might not even have that going for us.
If you got a solution to the problem let please make it known.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 14, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Pass rush is the thing that scares another team more than anything.
Bill Walsh said that the most important fact in winning is the late game pass rush.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 14, 2012 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
Quinton Coples ,
Chandler Jones
+ Jason Jones.
3 LOTTO TICKETS for the pass rush. ( and we do need a pass rush)
All we we got to do is hit on one.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 14, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Personally I just want you to offer me something that isn't like trying to hit the lotto
Coples… will likely be a bust… just after watching him play in college for all those years… and getting all that praise he never once impressed me. Maybe it’s just me or the dude just doesn’t get off the ball and play with intensity.
Jones… again he’s good I like Chandler but he played against ACC talent not SEC talent. I think he’s a 50/50 shot.
Jason… omg… roll him under a truck he’s done. Not worth wasting the time and energy on.
Mark Ingram… this kid has potential and if he plays DE at 6’1 it doesn’t sound like a bad thing. There are other rookies too. I’m just not high on either of those guys… could be sleepers, could get lucky.. I’m a pretty good judge of talent… and Coples doesn’t impress me at all.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Jan 14, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/1/14/2706952/nfc-divisional-playoffs-2012
There’s something about the Giants that the Packers can’t quite shoo away. It’s called a pass rush. New York can get pressure on Aaron Rodgers rushing four men, which leaves seven back to clog passing lanes and makes life a little more difficult for Rodgers to find open receivers. The Packers, though, have a great deep-ball thrower, and with Aaron Ross and Corey Webster having shown themselves to be susceptible to the deep throw — and with Greg Jennings due back from his late-season knee sprain — I like the heavy-hearted Packers. They’ll be playing to win, too, for offensive coordinator Joe Philbin after the drowning death of his son. Packers 24, Giants 23
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Dude....
Our pass rush is not as big an issue as our pass defense is… we were 7th in the league in sacks and 7th against the rush…that’s what the front 7 is supposed to do. From there you have ILB, CB, S to keep coverage on the receivers. The fact that we won’t be getting an option on Coples even though some draft boards have him as far down as the 3rd Round. I don’t like Coples.. period I watched him play every game this year… he’s worse then Spencer ever was or will be. Why would I want to replace Spencer with another Spencer… he sucks.
I have no interest in Billy Winn or Crick or Devon Still but if they are there in the 3rd Round they will probably be good to decent picks. I have said go DeCastro and the OL first or CB… if Alabama’s Safety is available in the 2nd I would take him, then worry about the DE and OLB… you have better luck succeeding with them in the later rounds then you do with OL or CBs …. the ratio is pretty large. 3% for Guards and 8% for DE and OLB.
You especially consistently talk about taking this guy and I can give you odds … wager on this one… He will be a bust!!!! Quintin Coples will be no more then a 4 sack per year guy his entire career. He can’t compete against the higher level competition. Mark Ingram on the other hand would be a decent choice… if we had a shot at him.
RexP
edit sorry only 1 sack this year... period
One year only 2009 in 7 games he recorded 4 sacks and 5 passes defended
Give him that one for having 5 passes defended only.
No year did he have more then 5 sacks.
RexP
Jason Jones got 3 sacks this year
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by Jonathan Stern on Jan 12, 2012 2:40 AM CST up reply actions
The terrible O-line has added years onto Romo
This guy has taken a lot of injures
Throwing hand – broken finger in 2008 and injury to hand in 2011
Collar Bone – Broken in 2010
Ribs – Broken ribs and punctured lung in 2011
Romo is starting to accumulate some serious injuries that stick around with you. Furthermore, he was hit top-10 in the league this year, hit 10 more times than Michael Vick.
Romo has been getting absolutely killed the last 2 seasons. He may have started fewer games but he’s been taking a beating in the games he’s played.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 14, 2012 12:13 PM CST reply actions
Seems to me like a perfect reason... to continue
TO DRAFT AN OFFENSIVE LINE!!!!! sorry cap lock.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Jan 14, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, the O-line is getting Romo murdered
That unit has to get better and changes have to be made.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 14, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions

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