Season Wrap Up Part 2 – Dallas’ Good, Bad and Uggggggly
Now that we've debunked the three biggest myths about the past season, it's time to dive a bit deeper into what was so memorable about Dallas' performance in 2011. Clearly, it was a season of breathtaking high's (leading the division 11 games in) and excruciatingly low lows (another December to remember). Nonetheless, the team had very bright spots and some very dim ones as well and they all come together to provide the indelible memories of the 2011 campaign.
The Good
Tony Romo's performance after the Detroit game - if you've read my posts for any length of time, you know that I haven't always been kind to Tony. Romo is still inconsistent, can hold the ball too long and hasn't yet put together the kind of season that would have me mentioning him ahead of sub-elite guys like Eli and Schaub, but you have to give him credit for finding a great balance of playmaking, risk-abatement and cerebral play in the latter portion of the season. The biggest advance he has made is that I think he's seen almost every blitz known to man and has developed the ability to diagnose it before the snap. I saw a very good, even elite QB playing for Dallas down the stretch and if he can consistently deliver that same standard of play in 2012, this team will be far better than 8-8.
Personnel gems - Dan Bailey, Laurent Robinson, Tony Fiametta and DeMarco Murray were true finds and look like long-term contributors (contracts notwithstanding) and even a potential star or two in the mix. Give credit to the pro and college scouts. They earned their paychecks this year.
DeMarco Murray - of all the players Dallas has seen join their roster over the last 5 years, no one provides me as much hope for what may be to come than the running back from Oklahoma. His balance, speed, toughness and, most of all, his instincts made him look like one of the best backs in the NFL shortly after being inserted into the starting lineup. New Year's wishes for Murray - get healthy, stay healthy, hold onto the ball and just keep doing what you do!
Chaff out, wheat in - Dallas waived goodbye to noteworthy figures such as Roy Williams, Andre Gurode, MBII, Tashard Choice and others as they charted a course toward upgrading talent and getting younger at key positions. Many of those people had the wrong psychological makeup for what Jason Garrett wanted to build. I liked the boldness in the decision-making of the Trinity of Jones, Jones and Garrett.
Sean Lee - this might be the best thing we remember about Wade Phillips. I like how this guy plays the game. If he stays healthy, and that may be a big ‘if', 50% of our LB corps could be elite next year. Nice.
Witten - How can you not just love this guy?
No surprises - they beat the teams they were better than and they lost to teams who were better than them. Taking a look at all of the team records now that the season is over, you can plainly see that Dallas didn't lose to a team that finished with a record worse than their own 8-8 mark. And really, how far off were they from beating the Jets, Giants (game 1), Pats and Lions? Trying to put this into perspective for the long haul, I distinctly recall Dallas beating Green Bay 27-16 in 2008. After the game, Mike McCarthy said "they are just a better team than we are right now". Two years later, those Packers won the Super Bowl and are the favorites to double up. Just let that sit a while.
The Bad
Doug Free - the worst O-lineman on the team, which is truly saying something when you look at who we had at guard and center, he didn't live up to his hype or his pay check. Opposing defensive ends routinely beat him like he owed them money. Romo and the rest of the offense suffered as a result.
Romo's games up to and including Detroit - he caught a ton of flak about his play during this period (some of it deserved, some not) and the team looked like it had an offense with a leader that couldn't get his ship righted.
Jason Garrett's double duty - it became plainly evident that Garrett was too inexperienced to jump into a dual role the likes of Andy Reid or Sean Payton. Why he chose to (and why Jerry let him) go without an offensive coordinator just because he struck out with Paul Chryst is utterly inexcusable.
The interior O-line - question: what happens when you insert a rotating group of three JAGs at center and both guard spots into the starting lineup for a team that should be a playoff contender? Answer: the Dallas Cowboys in 2011. 'Nuff said.
The Pass Rush - I know, I sound like a broken record, but in the 1990's, Dallas knew it needed a great outside pass rusher to serve as the missing piece to its burgeoning defense and Charles Haley complemented the younger DE's and DT's to create a nightmare for opposing QB's. In 2011's version, if you doubled Ware, you generally stoned the Cowboys' pass rush. I've watched that last game against the Giants a few times now and it was just heartbreaking to see so many defensive players unable to beat their man and create any pocket pressure. Ratliff (who really should not be a NT in Rob ryan's scheme) got next to no push in the middle and Coleman & Hatcher weren't much different than 2010's Spears and Igor. You know what's REALLY bad? 23. That's the number of sacks generated by all of the Dallas defenders not named DeMarcus Ware. As a result, the DB's and LB's were forced to shadow pass catchers for far too long and Dallas made average QB's look like pro bowlers.
The Ugly
The defensive secondary - it had to be one of the worst in football because they literally were lost in coverage at critical moments in so many big games. I don't know that they single-handedly lost Dallas a ton of games, but they sure didn't help us win many. With Dave Campo gone, hopes run high for a new DB coach that will help that group better prepare for their opponents.
Punting and Kicking - why is it that I was unable to breathe every time we kicked the ball or had the ball kicked to us? My close calls with asphyxiation had more to do with missed tackles, questionable coverage schemes and revolving door blocking techniques (that's a unique coaching skill) than any chronic medical condition I might have. Thankfully, we didn't give up any TD's on returns, but we were 27th in yards-per-return on punts and 21st on KO's. If not for the season's biggest surprise in Dan Bailey, Joe DeCamillis would be in a witness protection program.
The Eagles - Dallas is dangerously close to letting the Eagles get into their heads in the same way Dallas got into the heads of the Redskins some years back. Dallas has played far too many non-competitive games against them and it looked like the two teams were headed in the exact opposite directions as the year ended. That, and having your owner/GM say he is scared of them doesn't bode well for their contests in 2012. 54-14 in two games. Yeesh!!!
Whatever it is we do between offensive plays - is it me or do the Cowboys coaches and players just pay NO attention to the play clock? Why are so many snaps just barely getting off at the :00 mark? Why is Romo having to tell people who just came out of the huddle what their assignment is? This is the SAME offense we've had for four years now! It's the same guy calling the same plays. It's incomprehensible. And does Romo really need to keep the linemen in their stance for 12 seconds while he goes through his pre-snap reads? If Aikman had ever done that with Larry Allen, he would have lost a few teeth in the ensuing conversation to help get his mind right.
Overall inconsistency - no unit on this team was ever able to establish any degree of consistent high performance nor even some measure of consistent improvement, over the course of the season. From game to game you didn't know which group would underperform. The offense would hang 44 on the Bills one week and then score 60 total over the next 3 weeks. The defense would look confused against the Lions one week and then lock down Brady, Welker and Gronkowski the next. Maddening. Garrett talked about how they would practice and prepare and improve every day as being some of the hallmarks of his leadership paradigm. He has work to do.
There's a sampling of what I'll be thinking about this offseason as the Trinity looks to continue the Cowboys' makeover. What about you?
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Great post Blings
Calling Costa a JAG is just too kind.
Agree with your points about Romo early season, though he does deserve some credit for battling through the rib injury. I never saw that 49ers comeback coming. But he also deserves blame for the Detroit and NYJ games.
I also agree that Romo played great football down the stretch. My only real complaint about his play was that I’d like him to throw the ball away more, but then again, he makes so many plays under heavy duress that its hard to ask that from him. Maybe its better that he does what he can and then the moment stuff hits the fan he takes the sack.
I also wonder a little bit if he shouldn’t take a couple more chances, especially throwing to Dez. The game turning play in the NYG game was Manning throwing a prayer to Cruz (answered of course), and I feel like Romo should have a little more faith in Dez when it comes to downfield routes. But overall, I can’t say I was disappointed in his play this year.
Finally, at this point, with the star players on the roster aging, Dallas needs to build to beat Philly. I feel like you need athletes everywhere on defense and a very solid oline on offense.
I like your idea about building to beat Philly
How would you go about it?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
We have the cornerstone already in Ware and Lee.
These two are elite run stoppers and with the speed Carter will add to the mix that will greatly help I believe. We just need that true NT a giant Hulk of a man to let Rat over to the DE spot. Getting a massive body in the middle will keep them from running all over us like they so easliy did. Then the other thing we need to do would be to grab up a couple guys for our interior line just one or two depending on how the projects turn out after an actual offseason with conditioning coaches and mini camps and all that jazz.
There’s a couple things I would start with for battling the Phillies. Oddly enough a great CB tandem might not be needed against them if they loose out on Jackson like it appears they might.
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 10, 2012 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
What happens with D-jax will be interesting
…but it will take pass rushers to beat the Eagles.
That, and a solid run game.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
To beat Philly, the Skins, and Giants
We need a solid oline. They all have bookened pass rushers now. In 4 games against them our line got used and abused and dominated.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
So you think highly of Buffalo's and Seattle's o-line?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Huh? Whats that have to do with Dallas?
Our division is a lot different than either of them. Our offense is a lot different too.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I think his point is that they did better against our main division foes
than our offensive line did.
Buffalo:
- beat the Eagles
- had the Giants beaten at MetLife until a questionable call enabled a come-from-behind win for the Giants
Seattle:
- beat the Giants at MetLife
- beat the Eagles handily in prime time
Those two teams went a combined 3-1 against the same two teams that swept the Cowboys (0-4).
They may not have been as “good” as the Cowboys, but they didn’t fear the Giants or Eagles either.
(Hands over crown)... Dude seriously you are the most optimistic Fan in the world……
--by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 17, 2011 4:55 AM CST
ah I see, i didn't make a connection.
I assumed it was some reference that they blew too many picks on the OL or something.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Nope, just challenging your assertion that the O-line is the key
I think it’s much deeper.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
With our players and division
yes OL is key. The Eagles, Skins, Giants rely on pressuring the QB with four players. You stonewall them and force them to blitz more and more we can take advantage of their secondaries. Even if they only rush four, with Romo and our WRs they will be able to get open with time.
Murray is a stud waiting to happen
Romo top 4 QB
Dez Miles Robinson? Are a fantastic trio
Witten Best TE in the NFL.
You give them running lanes, and time to throw and we will avg 34 points a game.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
While the defense gives up an average of 35 per game?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Scoring points helps everybody.
Yeah there might be a few more shoutout games but cmon if your offense is that good that allows the D to be more aggressive.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
The consistent contenders are those with the 3-4 best QB's in the NFL and those with top flight defenses
I don’t know if Romo will ever crack that elite group. If he doesn’t, Dallas had better have a very good defense.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
No.
More than 4 teams make the playoffs and Romo is defn top 5 in the league.
Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Romo
Insert flavor of the year.
Romo gets it done year in and year out without an OL and Defense. Give him a better defense and this team is a 10-11 win team. Give him a better OL (which is easier and faster return) and this is a 13 win team easily.
Look at what the Colts use to do with no defense. Look at what GB and the Patriots are doing now. That is what we could be. And all itll take is the #14 pick to sure up the OL for Romo and future QBs of the Cowboys for the next 10 years.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Purely hypothetical
He had a lights out defense in 2009.
He had an outstanding O-line (as pro bowlers go) in 2007.
The Colts had two of the best pass rushers in football in their prime when they won it all, but you’re right, not much else on defense. The difference? They had the best QB. Ever.
Romo is not top 5. I’m sorry, but that’s just not supportable through empiricism. The argument has been made and lost too many times now. Either he wins a bling or he is Danny White.
GB’s defense played well against higher seeds in their playoff run last year. Even while blowing teams out this year, they’re 19th in points allowed when teams are throwing the ball all over the place on them.
Whose been in the most Super Bowls in the last several years? The Steelers. When have they had a top 5 offense? Even with Big Ben ( who is an outstanding QB), their most consistent unit is Dick LeBeau’s.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
You have to have 2 great and one good any combo
Def – right now below avg
QB – great
HC – good → great this year?
We will never have a great defense while Romo is under center.
As to your points, he did not have a lights out defense in 09 just as FiTaT it was smoke and mirrors. And you fail to address my other point, OL.
You can point to GB defensive stats now, but the fact still remains their defense stinks really bad. They are just always put in a good position by our offense. Watch that defense when GB Offense has a couple 3 and outs and youll see points being scored.
And Romo is a top 5 QB
Passer Rating
2006 NFL 95.1 (5)
2007 NFL 97.4 (5/80)
2008 NFL 91.4 (8)
2009 NFL 97.6 (8/74)
2011 NFL 102.5 (4/35)
Active 96.9 (2)
Career 96.9 (2)
Adj Net Yds/Pass Att
2006 NFL 7.19 (5/81)
2007 NFL 7.17 (5/84)
2008 NFL 6.84 (7)
2009 NFL 7.54 (4/44)
2011 NFL 7.40 (6/60)
Active 7.20 (2)
Career 7.20 (2))
Passing TD %
2006 NFL 5.6% (2)
2007 NFL 6.9% (3)
2008 NFL 5.8% (2)
2011 NFL 5.9% (5)
Active 5.7% (2)
Career 5.7% (21)
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
What has you call Romo great?
Because of his statistics?
It’s the Danny White argument all over again. People pull out statistics when they have no big game wins-and-losses based argument that makes sense.
I find it funny that you talk about GB’s defense will be giving up points if the offense “has a couple 3 and outs” which can only mean that you use points allowed as a key measure for how good or bad a defense is.
Then, to defend the position you’ve put Romo in, you take your next breath and malign the the Dallas defense, which, in 2009, allowed the 2nd fewest points in the league. Your argument is contradictory and highly self-serving.
I’d call Romo “very good” but certainly not great. Not with his inconsistency. The world outside of BTB would probably agree with me. Not that we’re having a popular election, but that’s the reality. As always, I’m not trying to win you over, just let you see why most people would disagree with you.
Isn’t it funny how the Pats, Saints and Packers, all with the most prolific offenses have these supposed bad defenses? That’s all based on yards given up, which is purely situational. Thus, I deny their value in the conversation. I’m betting you see through that obfuscation of the facts with data that contradicts what you can easily observe.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Blings look at Brady's Season
Just going to take this year for example:
Team as a whole goes 13-3
Why?
Each QB was similar this year in just about every stat. That means if Romo is throwing exactly the same as Brady… percentage wise…65.6-66 rating wise…105-102 TDs….39-31 INTs 12-10 and…he had a 4 INT game were he threw a pick 6 that gave the Bills a 7pt lead. Then another in the Giants game that led to Mannings late game heroics. Romo only had two games were he was inconsistent.
The difference between the two is not the Quality of play but the quality of players around them.
Coaching
Offensive Line
Our kicker failed numerous times this year when it was game on the line… and also made some. Inconsistency would be if Romo did not at least put the team in the position to win those games. He did so it can’t be said that
Romo is bad because the defense didn’t stop the Giants from scoring 14 pts in the last 5 min.
Romo is bad because Baily can only kick the same field goal once.
Romo is bad because we can’t sack Vick.
Romo is bad because he can’t cover Victor Cruz.
This is where I don’t figure the blame game here. You say that Romo will not be Elite until he brings home the bling but being Elite does not mean you win a Superbowl… it means that you have done everything you were supposed to do to support your efforts to win one. I mean the guy goes out and plays and gives it his all… he leads by example, plays tough, and performs at the top of the league in all catagories… yet no-one gives him any respect. I find it very hard to understand. Where do you actually think we would be if he wasn’t wearing the STAR? consider that for a moment.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Jan 14, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nope
…and here’s why;
Romo’s gaffes cost the team games. His mistakes always seem to be so much bigger than life. If you want to blame that on the teams around them, fine. I’m not as forgiving just because he’s MY team’s QB.
But here’s the biggest difference, RP.
4.
That’s right, FOUR.
Why four (4)?
Because if you look at Romo’s mistakes, they always happen in the FOURTH quarter.
And if you divide the season up into 4 parts, it’s the 4th and most critical part where Romo has been unable to get his team over the hump like Brady.
Finally, you can’t make a statistical argument that says Romo had less around him this year. He had a middle of the road defense while Brady had to overcome (statistically speaking) the second worst defense in the NFL.
Romo is bad because he seems to not make the big play to Austin when other QB’s do.
Romo is bad because he’s led an anemic offense when it comes to scoring points and converting FG’s into TD’s in the red zone since T.O. left.
Romo is bad because even if Garrett calls a pass play, he doesn’t have to try and force it if a receiver runs a bad route or the blocking breaks down.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Here's my take Blings...
I agree but never said the winning record was the result of the QB it is a team effort as stated when looking at the Patriots… team wins the game Brady stats are similar to Romo’s stats… so if we pick 4 why not pick the four losses that would give us almost the same record as the Pats… and we can even include that game.
1. Patriots game, A handcuffed Romo had a better overall game then did the Brady but because of time management and some bad calls during the game… it leads to Brady driving for the winning score instead of Romo driving in the 4th for the winning score…. the number 4 blown by not Romo but rookie HC mistakes. You remember we kicked the field goal to put us ahead in the 4th. That one and we are 9-7
In the Arizona game …. Romo marches the team down and gets them in position to make the game winning field goal but Garrett calls a time out… the field goal was good… but the 2nd attempt wasn’t… again that was Romo’s fault. And the win or loss is attributed to his record. Those 2 and we are 10-6,
3. Gnats game up 34-22 with 5.21 left on the clock… Eli and the Giants march the ball 80 yards in 2.32 to get within 5. Then after that miss to Austin you so vigorously pointed to… Austin admits it was his mistake and he took the route wide… but even then… 2.12 with no time outs and McBriar shanks it for only 33 yards giving the Gnats the ball at the 40… and the defense again folds… including giving up a 2 pt conversion to give the Gnats a 3 pt lead with 46 seconds left. He comes back and hit’s Miles for 23 and 22 yards to set Baily up for a 47 yarder but make it once not twice Baily misses the 2nd shot to tie the game… not saying we would have won in OT but we should have never been in OT. BTW Tony put us up by 12 in the 4th… just saying. 11-5 IF! The defense holds for one of those drives or Baily doesn’t miss the field goals.
4. Detroit game… after two games playing with fractured ribs… Romo still hasn’t healed… He goes up against what some said at that time was the best front four in all of football.. and the QB was supposed to be so much better and they had megatron too… omg it was a loss right there. Then Romo takes us up by 24 pts midway through the 3rd. His pain meds probably wearing off… it’s time to send in McGee and polish this game off… but no… Our head coach decides he wants to not only beat Detroit but demoralize them too! Keeps Romo in and throwing the ball. We have two capable running backs if you keep him in it’s to hand the ball off. Everyone wants to blame it on Romo… but it wasn’t in the 4th he threw the pick 6s on back to back series in the 3rd and we still had a 10pt lead in the 4th. That win would have given us a 12-4 record.
Similar to Brady’s add in the SanFran game the two redskin games were he came through in the 4th and so did Baily. Add the Jets game where he only threw the 1 Int… and the block of the punt and some bad play in the 4th allowing Sanchez to make that pass to Buress and then giving up a punt block for a TD… was the main reason for that loss… yea he could have played a little better and made some better decisions at times. The losses being attributed to him no.. those are attributed to the team just like the wins…. the stats he has throwing the ball and making plays… that toss to Robinson when he rolled out of the sack and hit him in the back of the endzone… the one to Dez and again to Miles… were things of beauty and plays that I don’t think even Brady would have made. We could have had a 13-3 season if our defense holds up on even one of those drives in each of those games. IF???
We can’t blame Romo we have to blame the team… the statistics prove that he is talented enough to take us to the SUPERBOWL. We have to solidify the weakest links and that is our secondary and Oline.
RexP
Here's my problem, RP
He got the stats by himself but the losses were the team’s fault. That sure sounds like people need to defend Romo more so than making a cogent, even- handed argument.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Blings it would be that way if they were saying
he got the wins by himself not the stats. Of course he got the stats by himself there is no other way to. Wins and losses revolve around the whole team not the stats of a player.
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 17, 2012 6:32 AM CST up reply actions
So the line didn't have to protect him well?
The receiver didn’t have to run the right route and catch the ball, regardless of how well or poorly it was thrown?
Kickers stats make more sense in terms of indivudualizing them, but if you’re going to say Romo was great and everyone else sucked, I need more evidence to support it, because my eyes tell me different.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
My eyes tell me the oline was average at the best of times
Sure I will give props to the wrs for running with it but I still give most glory to Romo as we give him most blame when it comes to Ints. how often are his a result of tipped passes? There are some he under/over threw but not quite as many.
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 19, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
don't you also then have to give the receiver some credit for acrobatic catches of poorly thrown balls?
Lord knows there were many of them during the season.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
of course you do!
I will willingly praise a receiver for bailling out his QB thats sure happened on more then one occassion or wrastling the ball away from the defender? yup receiver on that one too thats why it pays to have strong and agile receivers to win those tough battles.
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
One more note... 4th Qtr....
4th Quarter passer rating 104.4
Completions 91 Attempts 148 Comp. Percentage 61.5 Yards 1215 YPA 8.2 TDs 10 INTs 2
RexP
So the O-line is nails in the 4th quarter every game?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Tom Brady ... 4th Qtr
4th Quarter Stats
Passer rating 107.1
Completions 95 Attempts 143 Comp. Percentage 66.4
Yards 1223 YPA 8.6 TD 11 INTs 4
Brady threw more 4th Qtr Ints then did Romo
RexP
and to add one more stat...
Romo:
Sacked 36 times Fumbled 6 lost 3
Had two games all year where he threw more then 1 INT. One 3 Int games
Brady:
Sacked 32 times Fumbled 5 lost 2
Had 3 games where in thew more then 1 INTs and one was a 4 int game
Eli:
Sacked 23 times Fumbled 8 times lost 4 Had 6 Ints in the 4th and threw 3 games with more then 1 INT.. two were 3 int games
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Jan 16, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why do they win more...
Because the Defense for the Gnats gave them the opportunity to win the game in the 4th. They stopped the other team. As a team they win not the QB.
For the Pats the offense overcomes the defenses mistakes… as a team they won… not as QBs
RexP
Not buying it
Brady throws more ________ than Romo does. Fill in the blank.
Brady’s trademark is big time comebacks, while Romo’s is late game miscues.
That’s not just me, that’s everyone everywhere who isn’t a Romo devotee.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Oh so you use the big game arguement
I find that one funny its a team $%^& game. Ugh. So we are judging Romo the individual not by the things he controls but how the defense and special teams and coaching and scouting and drafting perform. Sigh.
As for the Packers defense thing, no I am not judging by points allowed just by the Packers offense rarely doesn’t turn the field position game around. The Packers Offense makes it easy on the Packers Defense by at minimum changing field position and maximum scoring points.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
The part you cannot run away from is this
If you’re going to use stats to prop him up and then say it’s a team game, then you’re going to have to say either that the stats belong to the team too (which means you’ve maligned the O-line erroneously) or that the stats are not telling of much.
You’re better served by the latter.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
No thats not really what you have to do.
Romo plays QB , you can use stats to prove how good of a QB he is. What you can’t do is use W/L to try to explain how he is or isn’t a great QB. Because he is just one of 53 guys and a million other factors that go into that.
If you can’t see that then agree to disagree.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
But your foundational theme here is this?
A QB’s stats are reflective of his performance (and his alone) but the team’s wins and losses have no bearing on that same subject?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
LOL I was thinking the same thing haha!
If our current defense can make Sexy Rexy look as good as they did then we won’t be able to win the shootouts either!
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
yeah and what did our Offense do in that game also?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Watching that game, it's hard to pin that all on the O-line
It’s a myopic view to think that you can simply insert a solid O-line in front of Romo and that Dallas will contend. The lines on both sides of the ball need upgrading.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
But is it myopic or just common sense to think
if you give Romo time he will score? If you make a small hole Murray will explode through it? If you shore up the interior OL Romo and Murray will be the hottest thing since Warner and Faulk.
Have you ever doubt Romo being able to drive down the field? In the last 2 minutes of the half/game Romo always gets us down in scoring range. No matter time, situation, timeouts etc.
Now he could do that all game long if the OL wasn’t a turnstile for the next pass rusher to knock the crap out of Romo.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Or you could get an int to Revis to seal the loss.
The Jet’s game was the season to come.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 14, 2012 6:59 AM CST up reply actions
I see periods of greatness in Romo
I also see periods of utter WTFWHT?
It’s that inconsistency that keeps him from being mentioned in the top group of QB’s. Eli has clearly passed him in that regard. the other spots are taken.
That said, I would love to see Romo get more time, but I’m not sure you can’t do that by simply improving the coaching on the O-line or running the ball more effectively (how much better was Romo when Murray was on his tear?). Upgrading something other than the OG position that most people are lamenting might have a bigger overall impact on team performance.
The turnstile I think you’re most distraught about was at left tackle and that’s not something DeCastro can fix.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
You remember what you want.
But every QB has wtf moments. You act like Romo does that every game every year every down.
And the turnstile is the constant pressure up the middle that made it harder for our tackles because Romo had to step back not up.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
This much is true
But every QB has wtf moments.
Some just make them in worse situations than others.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
So you conclude there are "bad" ints and "good" ints?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I'm not sure what a good PIC is
..but there are definitely gradations of bad PIC’s.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
no there really isn't
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I whole-heartidly agree with this statement!
BOTH lines need to be upgraded, the interior of the oline and the exterior of the dline, funny how that works. Oh and just to hit on something from earlier as much as i despise anything and everything Steelers Big Ben is just that a tower that will not fall! He has really showed some grit this season(not saying Romo hasn’t) I was really impressed by the Sex Offender.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 14, 2012 7:07 AM CST up reply actions
I would say the LT position needs to be fixed long before the interior O-line
Look how much pressure came from Doug Free’s side.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
True but are you of the mindset that a simple switch
will do justice? Or do you think something else is needed?
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
The mindset:
Switch RT Tyron Smith to LT… and switch Doug Free back to RT… Get FA G from New Orleans Nicks before someone else grabs him… Draft 14th David DeCastro G Stanford… and if you can this is the only trade I would make Konz C Wisconsin move up to get him… or take Ben Jones C Georgia in the 4th… and move on.
RexP
Use 2nd and 3rd round picks
On the Defensive front or secondary… either way is fine with me. We can fix both … but we might be able to fix one.
RexP
Why do people think Konz is going to be available so late?
Remember, other teams have bigger O-line problems than we do and are better at using their draft picks than Jerry.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
well, I think one key
COULD be bruce carter – that is a man designed to stop this fast Eagles offense. Of course, we have no idea how he will turn out. But you can see what they were going for – between Vick and McCoy, you really need athletic linebackers. The fact that Carter seems to be the only guy on our roster who can bring the wood makes him even more important, as we have nobody that can make Vick think twice about what hes doing.
If we were to have a perfect offseason that immediately makes us competitive with Philly, this is what I would want (and it probably doesn’t work under our cap, but I’ll write it out anyway):
One issue we had when playing Philly the first game was that only two guys could get pressure – Ware and Ratliff. But nobody else even moved the pocket. Vick weaved his way through our pass rush with ease. I think we need another pass rusher on the dline. Now, when it comes to stopping Philly, I’m not sure the big 3-4 NT + moving Ratliff to DE will help – if that big NT doesn’t get pressure, we are at square one. I like what Ratliff has done in this matchup, we just need more of it – so ideally we can get a 3-4 DE who can get to the qb, ala Calais Campbell. I don’t know our cap situation, but if there is any chance campbell hits the market we need to go after him hard. The guy hasn’t even entered the prime of his career and is already one of the better 3-4 rushers out there.
In the secondary, I’d probably take a CB first or second round. Our secondary talent is lacking right now, and with Jenkins injury problems last year, I think we need two guys if we want to compete next year.
And on offense, I think the solution is simple: upgrade the interior line. If DeCastro is there, take him. I really think DeCastro + switching Free and Tyron + the likely improvement of our younger guys with a real training camp could vault this line to one of the league’s elite. We weren’t awful last year, just inconsistent.
If somehow we can get Calais Campbell or another solid pass rushing 3-4 DE, I think theres the possibility that we compete for the division title next year even if Philly plays well (I’m thinking thats an 11 win team). Without that guy though, it will be hard.
I think that with a giant in the middle and Rat on the end he would be that upgrade.
He would be able to generate pressure from the DE spot.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 11, 2012 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
I don't see how that helps us with the Eagles and Giants
if that NT can’t pass rush, we’re still boned.
Generally, I understand what you’re getting at though. And I’m not sure what I think. It seems like Ratliff would be more disruptive when it comes to pass rushing when lined up over the guard and center.
I think the hope is that Rat can be effective singled up against a guard while an NT draws double teams
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I agree a lot with your theory on trying to throw to Dez more however,
your comparison to Cruz is dead on accurate their secondary was just as suspect as ours. though their Dline play was light years ahead of ours Romo should have definitly taken more chances to our Big guys like Dez.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 10, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
There's little faith in Dez being where he is supposed to be
Cruz is a fantastic route runner.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Fair assessment hadn't thought about that part really.
Well here’s hoping his first full offseason puts that little blemish to rest. If he can be a crisp clean route runner then man that sure would help! Good call Blings, thanks for the reminder
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 11, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
It's the difference between good and great when it comes to receivers
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
question, How easy, hard or even possible is it to teach Dez
proper route running technique? No matter how fast and athletic he is, if he cannot run routes and gain Tony Romos’ complete trust, it hampers our offense.
I wonder if Birddog26 would take a shot at that
I would bet that the older a player is, the harder it gets, especially when they’ve made a living (so to speak) by beating their opponents with pure, unadulterated superior athleticism.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I'd also like to see Birddog's thoughts on this.
That guy sure knows his stuff when it comes to the ins and outs of things on field.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 12, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
I believe so.
He has been working very hard during the litte time he’s had in the past offseasons. All I remember hearing is how he was the first there and the last to leave. Sure sounds like wanting it to me. Another thing I like about him is how he contributes wherever he can including STs. It’s not often you see that in one of your starting WRs, he also has the willingness to block and it was pretty exciting to see him chase down Murray on that 91 yard TD run thats a fast dude.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 13, 2012 7:34 AM CST up reply actions
But does he have the head for the game?
Or is he just a freakish athlete who lacks the discipline and commitment it takes to be elite?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Well the jury is definatly still out on that one
I’d like to think so but I can’t really admit defeat either. Im really gonna be watching him this year in tc videos and in the preseason to see how his routes look thats for sure.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 13, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'm hoping he turns a corner
We need to regain the ability to pressure the safeties deep.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Yes we do we can't have them loading the box
I think Murray’s gonna get a lot of attention this year and that should help Dez if he can put a quick move on a pressing corner he can get open quick without Safety help. So if he can make the offenses put their safeties deep I like Murrays odds a lot more cuz we’ve got some strong blockers in Dez and Miles.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 14, 2012 7:10 AM CST up reply actions
Murray needs to come back strong and stay healthy!
He’s the key to next year’s offense.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Heartily agree with you on that one sire!
If he can be as explosive as he was those few games he played last year it will really open things up for our receivers deep. Looking for Dez to have the playbook down and Murray to come back strong and healthy(well said).
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 14, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Well this will be his first offseason with the coaches.
So this will be the year to see if he has progressed or not. The matchups he gets now tells me he is more then capable since defenses are willing to commit multiple people to cover him giving one man coverages to Robinson or leaving the back free helps now. What we all want and need from him is the next step the one that catapaults him to elite status, cuz with that tenasity and strength he has now he will be a monster to cover when he’s always in the right spot.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 12, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not ready to call Dez anything more than a question mark
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
by question mark if u mean injury concerns
then yes i agree with u but outside of that i’m not worried & u shouldn’t be either.
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by DarkKnight88 on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
the fact that Romo doesn’t seem to trust him doesn’t mean I should be worried about him ending up being nothing more than a very talented player who never reaches his full potential?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
So i guess romo didn't trust dez
during both skins games & also against the cards rite? Got ya.
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by DarkKnight88 on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
You're 3 for 16
If that’s enough for you, fine.
But how come the former #1 was invisible for long stretches? You know the answer. Whether you choose to admit it is up to you.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
how am I 3 for 16
u just said romo doesn’t trust dez, i wrote some examples to prove ur statement as b.s now if u said romo doesn’t trust dez as much as austin or j-witt then perhaps you’d have a better point but whatever blings to each his own.
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by DarkKnight88 on Jan 14, 2012 1:00 AM CST up reply actions
He made the statement to the effect of not letting other people's mistakes be the reason that his own performance suffers
Who do you think he was talking about?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I think those disappearing acts had a lot to do with...
Coverage and Conditioning. We saw in the first game that Dez got tired after a huge first half in the Jets game, also there was the possible injury he was playing through, conditioning. Then the next week we see Miles go down at the end of the game with the Hammy and Dez is now the #1 guy and he starts getting the double and more press, which is arguably his biggest weakness. Although as the season went on I thought I noticed him beat more of those with a juke type move. Only thing then was Romo not having quite enough time and over threw a bunch of guys cuz of that. So that extra little move he had to put on the pressing CB took away that last step he needed to be where the ball was.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 14, 2012 7:18 AM CST up reply actions
The JG offense requires the receiver be where he's supposed to be when he's supposed to be there
Romo has been forced to improvise too often because Dez was the 1st progression and although he was singled up on a CB, he wasn’t where he needed to be, so Romo had to force it into Witten or Robinson who were bracketed.
It’s great to have all these weapons, but if they don’t do what the play says they are supposed to do, Romo cannot overcome that.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Really?
I hadn’t noticed that i didn’t get to watch very many whole games due to work could you list a couple games? The consesus seemed to be that he was double covered and that’s why. Thanks though!
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 14, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Bryant was 40th in targets this year
Fewer than guys named;
Darius Heyward Bey
Jabar Gaffney
Brandon Pettigrew
Nate Burleson
Greg Little
Many of those guys missed time too.
Dez caught about 60% of the 103 targets he received in 2011, so let’s use that as a baseline.
If we want him to catch 6 passes in a game, and that’s not a lot for a supposed #1 WR who was picked in the first round, then he needs about 10 targets to catch that many.
Only once this year did he have 10 or more targets. But that’s not the telling part. The part that really tells the story is how many times he only saw the ball thrown in his direction 5 or fewer times. It happened FIVE times! In those five games, he saw the ball thrown his way a total of 20 times. That’s four per game. Again, if he catches 60% of those, he’s going to get about 2 catches per game in those 5 games.
That’s the way we’re utilizing this game breaking #1 WR?
Yup.
If he’s as good as I think he is, then the only answer that I can come up with is that Romo chooses his other options before looking in Dez’s direction.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Ouch! That hurts
I just looked up his game log and he avg. at least 10 yards a game minus one where he only had 9.6. Thats not too shabby but not nearly enough targets for Mr. #1 your right there!
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 15, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
I would say that Romo doesn't think he's #1
Witten is.
That isn’t good for this offense.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
True I was speaking more about his draft pick
Austin should be the #1 when healthy but your right it does tend to be Witten. Heck Robinson might even work his way into the #1 with the amount of targets and TDs he got just by watching his QB and following him when he scrambled.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 15, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
You make an excellent point
It sure looked like Romo was more comfortable with Robinson than either of the other two.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
We sure do seem to be set at receiver for a little while
What are your thoughts on Holley I think he should see a lot more playing time in 4 receiver sets. I have more thoughts on this but I’d like your opinion too.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 16, 2012 6:16 AM CST up reply actions
Holley isn't polished
Not sure he’ll ever amount to much more than a backup.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
The man does catch literally everything thrown his way though
I cant over look that. There is something special there and I hate dropped passes and it seems there is no accountabilty for them they just shrug and smile it off.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 17, 2012 6:28 AM CST up reply actions
He reminds me of someone
…but I can never think of who.
It’s not Isaiah Stanback. Hmmm
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Ouch how could you even think that name?
I don’t think they are quite the same but I see the comparison and might I add I don’t like it…cuz it totally ruins my views on him!
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 19, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
LOL
Sorry man.
Maybe he reminds me of Randy Moss.
Yeah, that’s it!!
:-)
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
HAHAHA
MUCH better my thoughts exactly ;-)
Really though i see him as a more sure handed Crayton there when we needed him and plays ST very well.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 24, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
I thought that I read once that they bled the play clock by design.
I think it was to force the D to reveal their coverages and blitzes.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM CST reply actions
on the road Romo takes up every single second
and I think there are two reasons
1) gives him every second available to figure out the blitzes to get his OL prepared
2) and this is really just a guess, but it means most of our OL won’t jump if they know the ball will be snapped in the last two seconds
At home though, we are much more effective at getting the play off in time. I don’t really get it.
Given how many pre-snap penalties and botched snaps they've had...
would it kill them to modify that strategy just a teensy weensy bit?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
No it would not!
I’ve been on the outskirts the past couple days has Houck retired or got the axe yet?
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 10, 2012 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
yup hudson is gone i think bill callahan replace him
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by DarkKnight88 on Jan 10, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
thanks for the update man!
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 10, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Great post #2
Hopefully with better strength and conditioning, the d-line will be much stronger to be able to win those battles when they need to. I agree about Ratliff too. They need a couple of beefy guys to put in there. As much as I hate the Steelers, their entire d-line went down on Sunday and their replacements were studlike. I was a little jealous.
Thanks TCF
I agree with you. The Steeler D almost didn’t miss a beat up front with those second line guys. How much of that is scheme versus talent?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Lots of good points Blings.
I do like Kowalski better than Costa and Centre. Maybe a full offseason will get him, Arkin and Nagy ready for next season. Why would Carter not get some shots late in the season, he could hardly do worse than Brooking or James. Why does it seem that each game played against the Eagles, the Cowboys just look terrified.
With an injury like the one Carter had it takes about a year until its fully healed and the person
has full confidence in it to play like the did before the injury. Then when you consider the kid had no off season, TC, and was then on the PUP for the first six weeks there was no reason to rush him into playing. As we saw he started to get more playing time in December which coincidentally was one year after his injury.
Sorry, I just repeated what you said, SS
I concur.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I wonder how far along Carter was in his recovery
He had been on the shelf for a while with that injury.
As for the Eagirls, we had reason to be wary, but scared? never.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Loved one of your points in “The Ugly.” It wasn’t “Punting and kicking” and it wasn’t “Whatever it is we do between offensive plays,” but it was somewhere right around that neighborhood. In the spirit of not starting a day-long debate that branches off into 30 different directions away from the original post, I won’t mention which one it was. But you sir, have earned a hearty rec!
Talk about a bittersweet rec
:-)
I dearly hope they keep Juan Castillo in place and stay away from Spags. Getting him might make the Eagles a contender.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Spags would be the 4th DC in 5 years, which isn’t ideal. But you’re right… It’s a no-brainer, and obviously, they can’t roll with Castillo again.
I think they liked what the defense was doing down the stretch
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Lots of Ugly and Bad, which probably outweighs the Good.
I’ll take Clint Eastwood though anytime. Let’s just fix the the other two.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Lots of work to do
Given our “window”,, don’t you think a bunch of the moves will need to come through FA as opposed to the draft?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
No a single thing to disagree with..and now I have that annoying song from that movie in my head.
Nailed it IMO. Another rec Blings, good work!
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
Thanks Ben
It’s a classic!
Blondieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
You son of a _!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Well done Blings Rec'd!
I must admit that Romo’s play before the Det game may have been a bit off due to his first full game back from injury and at full speed (NYJ) and possibly the broken ribs/lung issue he found himself in week 2. Now are those excuses? Hell Yes they are but what fine excuses they are! So I don’t fully agree with him being up there in the bad section understand it yes but agree no.
As it stands now I have been asked by probably 10-20 different people if we’re gonna start by finally getting rid of Romo. I always answer with a we’d be completly insane if we did he was by far any part of the problem last year. This stereotype of him is really getting old! I thought we debunked that myth could you please forward your last article to Rich Eisen? The nation needs to understand that he is not some extreme choke artist.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 10, 2012 11:50 PM CST reply actions
Thanks CA
Sadly, the only thing that will save Romo from being lumped into that group of afterthought QB’s will be a super bowl championship. He can get there if he keeps improving his consistency and, in my opinion, relies more on DeMarco Murray to carry the offensive load
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Two keys
to getting competitive in the Division: DAL must get much faster on D and much more physical on the OL.
If I were JG, I would have Callahan make Doug Free his personal project starting tomorrow, he simply must get back to form if DAL/Romo is to have any chance.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
Or just switch him with Tyron
He was dominant on the right side last year. I don’t know how that will translate to the left side, but we spent a first rounder on him. Might as well see how he does. Can’t do much worse than Free last year.
by blackgallagher on Jan 11, 2012 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
Hey blings, your desire to have Houck replaced has been answered
What do you think of the new OC line coach.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
Was hoping for Sparano
Callahan had two good tackles and a great center in New York. Plus, they invested a lot on that group in the draft.
He will have more of a project in Dallas.
Still, he might be more in line with Garrett’s view of what an o-line should look like in today’s NFL.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
"Opposing defensive ends routinely beat him like he owed them money"
i lol’d, and that’s a rec
You admit that the Cowboys are better than SF??
Thats interesting….there’s hope for you yet bling…lol.
In Romo we Trust
I think SF is overrated, and extremely lucky
The 49ers allowed only 26 points off of turnovers all season, the lowest value in the league. They scored 109 points off takeaways, the sixth best total in the league. The 83 point differential is the highest in the league.
Advantages from stats like these have a habit of disappearing in the postseason – and in the next season.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 12, 2012 6:20 AM CST up reply actions
Well, give them SOME credit for taking care of the ball
They can’t win a shootout, so they’ve played games in a way that generally keeps them from having to.
That’s just plain good coaching.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
The good : season ended (we would have been embarrassed in the playoffs)
The bad: choking 5 fourth quarter leads (Cowboys history made)
The ugly: how many more face lifts can Jerry have (the dearth of talent on this team is frightening)
That about sums up the Dallas season.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
That is all Mensa ever does, any positives just make him angrier.
That about sums up Mensas’ season
Not true blings. I mentioned the season ended. That was a good thing.
Very good post , btw.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
Fm, you realize that early endings to a season are not seen as good things by the masses, right?
Thanks for the props.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I do understand that early endings are not widely viewed as good.
However in this case it was a wonderful thing. This season had we made the playoffs we would have annihilated. I didn’t want to endure the pain. This team was dissapointment enough during the regular season.
So I fould a positive and stuck with it.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 12, 2012 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
mensa i laugh at the ppl who
jump on u for expressing ur opinions, this is a blog after all isn’t it? Lol besides its not like i see u hopping on another wagon it sounds like ur an ole school cowboys fan who’s tired of mediocrity.. So am i but what killed me the most this season was getting swept by philly/ny & it was the way they lost those games that made my head sizzle.
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by DarkKnight88 on Jan 12, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Dark what you just described...
is a lack of mental toughness. This team hasn’t had any in a long time. I have mentioned before I would like to see the roster purged of the older core guys and begin a new.
It won’t happen. I am not a fan of trying to retool on the fly. It doesn’t work in Dallas because Jerry doesn’t know how to do it. However I am a couple billion short of being able to call the shots.
Ah ,I don’t really care what people think or say about me. When I first got to this blog I bashed the rb time share system. I said we needed a feature back. I was blasted. Along comes Murray and ka-pow everyone is all over his sack saying how good it is to have a feature back. I blasted having Costa at center….as the season went along more and more post popped up about Costa wasn’t getting it done. I bash what is bad on this team. Currently there is a lot of bad and very little has been done to correct it.
Dark I will tell you what made me laugh the most is everyone jumping up and down about Rob Ryan. All I could do was laugh. They thought he was going to improve the d. I mean people here were seriously talking playoff run and superbowl. Funny how now everyone can see how bad the defense is. Nothing was added to the defense in the draft and Abe Elam was signed in free agency. Yet Rob was going to perform miracles.
There are a few on this blog that get it. Most however let fandom get in the way of logic. It really ain’t hard. Most entertaining to me are fans still riding the Jerry train from the early 90’s. I hope one day though that the team will win inspite of Jerry.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
There's no question this team lacks mental toughness
i don’t even think its debatable… I would absolutely luv it if the city could purchase rights to the team hell i would throw in what i could afford even tho i don’t live there but that’s a pipedream… Phil Costa is pitiful just downright pathetic i’m all for giving killer k an opportunity to start at c just to see if he brings some stability cause to my eyes he looked decent at least.
I’ve seen alot of folks on here say romo will play a good 5-6 more yrs, while i don’t deny the man’s talent what good is that if he’s on the bench injured? This guy has taken some bone crushing hits especially these last 2 yrs so no i don’t see romo playing at a high level 5 yrs from now simply cause of injuries.. This is the bed jerry made so now he can lay in it, the fans don’t deserve to see this tho.
When it comes to rob i actually like the guy but imo perhaps the media overrated the guy its not like he’s jesus or something & i don’t expect him to walk on water anytime soon… What was kind of irritating was the lack of 2nd half adjustments from rob but then again the tuna & wade also had to “dumb” down the d so there’s no question the team needs smarter & better players. I do think rob can get this d up to par w/ more talent.
Most however let fandom get in the way of logic. It really ain’t hard. Most entertaining to me are fans still riding the Jerry train from the early 90’s.
This used to be me until after that 07 season since then i’ve taken a more “gotta see it to believe it” sorta mindset.
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by DarkKnight88 on Jan 12, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
I've posted against the negativity...
Personally… I agree there are many needs and I figured us to have a 9-7 season this year and was looking playoffs next year if… IF? is a big word for so few letters.
Romo is the key and there is not a thing anyone can say to change that… he matured this year and could show us a very effective leader next year.
Three very good receivers and a great tight end… and I always thought we needed a feature back. Hate the RB by committee that’s like QB by committee just plain stupid and Landry did it for 2 years with Roger and Craig.
What bothers… me… It isn’t what we say in the off-season about players that need to be cut or aren’t any good at this time we can look at the season as a whole and better evaluate each of them…
There is nothing that is going to change during the season unless someone get’s injured. ( maybe) So while there is still a snowballs chance that we can win, I’m going to show whoever wears that star on their helmet that I am behind them 100%.
I was one of the few here that after the Detroit and Jets game didn’t bash Tony, and don’t find it in the interest of anyone to do it. I didn’t call Tree a waste of bench space but he is. I didn’t give Costa the boot but thought that Tony should have done it a couple times during the game when he bent down to snap the ball, I know I would have kneed him at least a few times.
In the off-season we can cut those that don’t work out but during the season I cheer for the 53 players that make up my team. The Dallas Cowboys. WIN OR LOSE I NEVER GIVE UP HOPE… example: Roger Staubach to Drew Pearson… TD! 17-14 Cowboys!!!! Game Over go home Fran Tarkenton.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Jan 13, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think people's feedback should be "regulated"
You may not find it productive or enjoyable, but I stand firmly against those who would try to quiet the views of those who provide opposing (and sometimes unsavory and polarizing) views on all things Cowboys.
I appreciate your perspective and think it’s great that you make the personal choice to withold criticism until after the season ends, but I also find great value in those who offer up what might be considered negative views on the same topics because it ignites the kind of dialogue that separates us from more restrictive and oppressive ones. Those perspectives, right or wrong, deserve the same air time as any others.
As for bashing Tony, I think a lot of the people who called him out for bad play early on also applauded his improvement over the course of the season. Regardless, I support their right to say what they will.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Blings
You know I don’t regulate their comments.. nor do I want to stop them from saying what they want to say… I’m an American first, Dallas Cowboy by heart… suthern by birth. Seminole by choice… lol.
I have had disagreements at times.. with you and others. Just during the season I make the choice to support my team 100%… now after the seasons over… well… that’s a horse of a different color.
In defense of Romo, Terry is a Romosexual and understandably has a man crush on Tony… I am to old and too into women to have man crushes but… I like Tony and I really haven’t seen Tony blow but maybe a couple games with bad decisions… the rest I think he was just trying to make something out of nothing in attempt to win a game. I think so many of the loses that he has to bare belong on the shoulders of others. The offensive line in a few major games, Terry Glenn in the Seattle playoff game. A kicker name Folk and another named Baily this year. That’s why after the loss to the Jets and to Detroit I stayed away from making any comments until I cooled down a bit. I’m still waiting to see some crow eating.
RexP
HA!
I am to old and too into women to have man crushes
I don’t think Romo needs defending. What he needs is to be more consistent. He did that down the stretch, and I think he tipped his hand when he said he wasn’t going to be the guy who tried to overcome other people’s mistakes. I inferred that he was going to take sacks, throw the ball to the checkdown and throw the ball away instead of forcing it to Dez on a poorly run route or to Miles if he was slow getting off of the line.
I get why the Romo topic is so divisive, and I’ve had knockdown drag-out’s with Terry and others over it, but he HAS to play like he did after Detroit and not like he did against them if he’s going to get mentioned in that top group. Otherwise, he’ll be known for leading a team that was always on the fringe, as Danny White did.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
The Detroit Game
I gave that loss to our coach… that was a terrible decision to even have Romo putting the ball in the air. I know why he did it, just don’t agree with it. He was taking the knockout punch but when our defense was playing lights out… why even give them the opportunity…. yea Romo made the throws but it was Garrett that made the calls. That should have been run, run, run, punt… game over. Win column… Against Brady it was a different thing and he went the opposite way another coaching mistake for our rookie head coach… too conservative.
RexP
I have an answer, but you won't like it
If you want to criticize Garrett for playing too aggressively against Detroit, then you have to criticize Romo MORE for a lack of production against a suspect Patriot defense the following week, where, coincidentally, Garrett played it safe like you advocate, and they lost because the defense (that was still playing lights out) gave up a score in the final moments.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
LOL Blings that's not what I meant.
I meant that because of the Detroit screw up… Garrett chose to play conservative and put the reigns on Romo which was a mistake. Different team…. different score. Romo was playing lights out too… but at the time we were up by 24 points… situations states take the QB out of the equation and win the game.
The Patriots game… Garrett went conservative from the start and you can do that against Brady… you have to score and force him to make plays every time he has the ball… with our defense playing lights out we should have never been close enough for Brady to bring them back with one scoring drive and 50 something seconds left on the clock. Another failure for our young coach in managing the clock. I’m sure he will get better with time.
RexP
by Rex Pfister on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
But don't you think he went conservative against the Pats because he was criticized for being aggressive against Detroit?
No one knows for sure, but that was my read on it. I figured Jerry told him he should have taken his foot off the gas.
But what do I know?
:-)
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Exactly what I'm trying to say....
Then in the end he realized he needed to let Romo make his mistakes and make his own corrections. If you constantly force a QB to exercise demons that’s the only exercise he’s gonna get. If you get thrown from the horse you have to get back in the saddle or you never will. It’s just the nature of the beast. Jason made a mistake… but it wasn’t a bad mistake… just he had to think in two areas. With the Detroit game Romo was still injured badly… he barely had enough strength to make it through the first half. So you have a big lead and an injured QB, what do you do? Mr. McGee could you go in there and hand it off for the next 15 minutes? “Sure coach, no problem, ummm coach… did you mean, now sir?” Garrett replies “NO! after halftime is over, omg!” … Then the Pats game is two weeks later and Romo has healed up pretty well but not completely and you put him in hand cuffs. That is a coaching mistake in both games. Another was time management at the end of the Pats game. They get the ball down close I think it was like the 20 or something with a 1-10 and 2 min. left on the clock… Garrett calls for a kill shot but it’s incomplete to Dez. which stops the clock with over 1 min 50. 13-13 score… We run the ball and get a yard I think… and Garrett calls a time out to decide what he’s going to do… next play he runs again and Pats call a time out leaving 1min something left and Baily kicks the FG putting Dallas up 16-13… the time he should have gone for the kill shot and TD he plays it conservative and gives the ball back to Brady which is the worst thing I could have thought to do. Hell I would have kicked an onside kick instead but that’s just me. I know one thing they wouldn’t have been ready for it. I would have loved to have seen Bill’s face when it was called… oh well we can dream.
RexP
Hey rex i'm on this
dallas train till the day i die & even then my spirit will still find a way to watch the games lol i just write down what i observe nothing more nothing less, i’m not claiming to be an expert.. The team gets that interior line fixed & this offense becomes elite i believe romo can have a season close to what brees accomplished & demarco rushes for 1200+ yds.
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by DarkKnight88 on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
I enjoyed reading your post as well.
I agree with the other poster who stated we need to get faster on D. We need some nastiness on D, I know he has attitude problems, but I would be interested to see if they would draft a guy like Vontaze Burflict if he were to somehow to drop in 2nd round. As far Carter, if he was healthy enough to play in some packages against the Giants, for the life of me, I don’t understand why he didn’t play against the Eagles game which was basically meaningless. What a better time to evaluate and give him some experience.
My hope is that Callahan will have some input in the offense and not be just a yes man.
I would assume, which is risky, that Callahan won't have much play calling responsibility until he works out the kinks on the line
Here’s my question though; Callahan’s offensive roots trace back to Jon Gruden. How different, schematically, was Gruden’s offense than Garrett’s??
Anyone?
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I don't think
Callahan is going to have any play calling duties at all. Zero.
by Cowboys Dominance on Jan 13, 2012 4:28 AM CST up reply actions
maybe he wil at least have timeout calling duties
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
go back through the game threads and these have been the common memes
all we can agree on now is that Dallas has plenty of holes to fill
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM CST reply actions
I disagree strongly on thanking Phillips for Lee.
Hey Wade you think Lee should be in for Keith “Crazy Legs” Brooking in the nickel?
"I don’t think he’s suited for that position,‘’ Phillips said. "Not the way we play it, no.’’
Think it should read thank the scouting department, I may be wrong on this but I do believe Lee had more picks than any member of our secondary this year, and that’s playing with a tuna can on one hand.
by G_SWAG on Jan 14, 2012 12:59 AM CST via mobile reply actions
he was tied with T-Old with 4 this year.
But as you mentioned that was with a Q-tip on his hand and they were all in the first bundle of games before he got hurt.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 14, 2012 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
I meant that he probably had a big say in the selection of Lee at that point in the draft
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Nice Read!
I like the: Chaff out, wheat in
Jason knew where the bodies were buried; he move very quickly to jump start the makeover. That took courage of conviction and confidence in ability to perform at the most demanding job in the NFL; that is, head coach. I love the oline makeover – and we know this project is just beginning. Now, onto the other side of the ball.
I didn't read all the above posts, but I will say...
I think Free is going to move back to RT this year and Smith to left. Free showed that is probably closer to his natural position this year.
Good article and I agreed for most of it. Glad you gave alot of love for Romo.
Been a while since I’ve posted, hope your doing good Blings.
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Best wishes to you and the family. Keep feeding that boy. The way we’re going, we will probably still need a Nose Tackle when he’s old enough to play pro football!!!
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
So sad yet sooo true!
I’m still torn about wanting to switch back to the 4-3 eventually due to the way the league is changing back to a passing league and using the run once the lead is theirs. Course then we’d need 2 DT instead cuz Rats getting up there and would probably be done around the time we would make the switch anyways. Alas it won’t happen while RR is here and I’m def not ready to part ways with him yet.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 15, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions

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