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Hey ya'll I figured with the FP article on the SOPA up I figured someone should put up a Fanshot for us to "discuss" it.. Be warned that the Guidelines aren't turned off here, so lets keep it Civil....I figure if We can limit the Political discussion to here that would keep it out of the other threads....

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Here is a bit of irony on SOPA.
(Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and Comcast/NBC Universal. Microsoft publicly opposes SOPA in its current form, while Comcast/NBC Universal is listed as a supporter of SOPA on the House Judiciary Committee website.)

Just seems like killing ants in the kitchen with hand grenades to me.

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by Tom Ryle on Jan 18, 2012 9:06 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

hahahaha tom ... grins galor here lol

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by IRONRAVEN on Jan 19, 2012 3:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Ehhh...yeah, that's an odd conundrum.

Most of the MSNBC personalities probably oppose the legislation, or at least they should, however Comcast and NBC probably lose quite a bit of money when a blog or YouTube posts an old interview of theres. Like lets say someone wants to watch Rand Paul on Rachel Maddow on YouTube, NBC/Comcast doesn’t get paid for any ad revenue on there if they watch the wrong video. The same thing goes for like Sean Hannity interviewing Mitt Romney, or a video with Anthony Weiner and Megyn Kelly and a lot of uncomfortable sexual tension.

As a student of IP law, I do believe there’s several problems, but censorship and takedowns aren’t the solution. If RIAA wants to kickstart the record industry busting Pirate Bay or Mediafire or suing some 13 year old girl isn’t the way to encourage people to buy more CDs and music on iTunes. Realistically, I heard some record exec with an idea: each CD costs three bucks. Good idea, IMO, as a staunch metal head I know I’d buy a lot more CDs. I’d check out bands I’ve never even heard of based on the genre, I mean the album’s three bucks…what else am I going to do with three bucks? If the band’s good I’ll tell my friends and they’ll buy it. For a lot of smaller bands, believe it or not, it’s easier to find four people to pay three bucks for four albums than it is to find one person to pay ten for one.

I also think that with the enhanced broadband speeds were seeing there’s no reason that every TV show on non-premium cable shouldn’t be somewhere for free. Sure maybe some reduced resolutions on standard Hulu, but how many of those of us in the money demo watch TV on the internet? Most of the demographics that advertisers want to reach watch TV shows on the internet these days…yet we still have NBC/Universal and Viacom sending out cease and desists by the thousands to protect their content. Traditional TV where you plan your night around a show is gone…long gone, get used to it. There’s other mediums that can be exploited to make plenty of money, maybe not as much but still good money.

It sickens me that the people in charge of producing content is always a generation or two behind the technology, and instead of changing their business model they insist on hiring lobbyists, buying members of Congress, and drafting draconian laws like this to solve the problems they’re too lazy to come up with a solution for.

by Omar Little on Jan 18, 2012 9:53 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Omar very well said

I read that Monster cable wants to have Craigslist and Ebay shut down because people sell their used Monster products there and that some how takes the luster off the Monster name.

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jan 18, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

well monster might have something there, but not against ebay and craigslist, just the individual sellers.

Monster cables come with a no questions asked replacement warranty – walk into a guitar center with and buy one, then cut it in half right in front of the cashier and they should give you another one in exchange for the now useless cable. Though you might not be allowed to buy from the store again if you pull something like that.

Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome

in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal

by Nick Castillo on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

as in, these people can sell their used cables and the buyer can go in and get a new one free of charge. Guitar center or whatever store you redeem it at charges monster for the price of the replacement.

Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome

in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal

by Nick Castillo on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

That would only be true if Monster has a transfer of warranty

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jan 19, 2012 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you are correct, but

From my experience at least, guitar center doesn’t ask for receipts when exchanging a busted cable for a new one. so anyone who acquires a used cable could still get a new one.

I might have gotten your inital comment wrong though, it might be inferior companies selling cables and calling em monster cables – in that case then monster does have some rights.

Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome

in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal

by Nick Castillo on Jan 19, 2012 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

You are right.. if a company or person was selling

a counterfeit product then the manufacture should be able to protect themselves.

But if Monster is going after these sites because they allow people like you and I to sell our used cables that is wrong.

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jan 19, 2012 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

HAH!!!!!

Monster’s beats headphones feature the world’s crappiest worksmanship and they absolutely refuse to replace a pair of phones that have worn cables. Still, Monster’s way off base here. Their material aren’t copyrighted material, their goods are personal property and different set of rules apply. When you buy a Monster cable they’re basically transferring the property interest in the cable to you, thus you have the right to transfer your interests in it to someone else.

by Omar Little on Jan 18, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep their headphones are junk - any low grade sennheiser is as good or better and far cheaper

I pretty much figured that’s the way it would be, what is the difference if consumer B rather than consumer A gets a replacement. none at all.

Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome

in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal

by Nick Castillo on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't able to get mine replaced...

I got a pair of grados later and Klipschs for the go. Waaaaay happier.

by Omar Little on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree just about across the board.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I support the stated goal: To suppress piracy of IP's and copyrighted materials

But as has been said pretty much everywhere, the way the bill is currently written (by a bunch of forty year seat reps and senators that barely know what the heel the internet is anyways.) would lead to mass censorship and a huge shift in the way the internet works (think 1906 SF earthquake as far as magnitude)

So yes, death to SOPA – but also death to internet piracy.

Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome

in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal

by Nick Castillo on Jan 18, 2012 11:03 PM CST reply actions  

The entertainment industry isn't doing anywhere near enough to change their business model to prevent piracy.

You listen to metal, take a band like Revocation. Their new album is pretty good, but they’re a smaller band and most people haven’t heard of them. They need every album sale they can get, not only for the money but to spread their name and grow their fanbase. It’d be far easier for their record label to find four buyers to pick up Chaos of Forms for three bucks than it is to find one guy to pay ten for it. I would also argue that even three people buying an album at three bucks a pop is better than one buying it at ten a pop. That’s two extra fans that will catch the band the next time they’re on tour or maybe even buy some merch, that’s worth losing a dollar in record sales. RIAA’s a downright mess and ASCAP isn’t getting any better either.

by Omar Little on Jan 18, 2012 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

You have a fine point

most bands and musicians I work with would rather have the +2 fans over the dollar anyday. On a wide scale, record companies are stuck in the nineties at best.. A lot of smalll time bands are doing a fine job of promoting themselves through social media, giving away singles as downloads and generally making the best of it.

My problem with piracy is more so with people downloading entire discographies worth of music – A friend of mine has over 150 gigs worth of music that he paid not a dime for. 18,000 songs ripped off for nothing – and the crappy thing is he can say they didn’t lose a sale because he wouldn’t have bought it if he couldn’t get it for free… and that is the prevailing attitude amongst those that pirate pretty much anything.

You name it; games, music, porn, programs, books, comics.. pretty much every form of media is pirated – and some people even buy it after they’ve tried it which is the right thing to do. But the vast majority I am willing to bet get it because they can, and not that they can’t afford it.

I wont lie and say I never pirated a dime, I have downloaded thousands of songs, and hundreds of games over the last decade. I can say that from the ages of 11-20 I was poor and a punk and didn’t give a sh** about other people. Now that I do have some money I am gradually buying all that music I love so much, and I only pirate a game to see if it runs correctly on my computer, then If it does I immediately delete it and buy it legitimately.

Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome

in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal

by Nick Castillo on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we have all done our share

I live in Seattle and do not get to see many Cowboy games live. So I stream them.

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jan 19, 2012 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

They need to adapt.

Offer it for free, and stream ads before each download, they’d make more money than youtube. I don’t get it. That is just one of hundreds different ideas.

We are run by old men stuck in their ways “this is how we always done it”

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by thebigham on Jan 19, 2012 7:09 AM CST up reply actions  

So why is Nike and Visa such a big backers in this?

"Talent is God-given; be humble. Fame is man-given; be grateful. Conceit is self-given; be careful." John Wooden

by 082288 on Jan 19, 2012 12:26 AM CST reply actions  

Piracy is an issue.....

bad bills are written all the time. The humor if you will here is watching these liberal (in the worst sense of the word) organizations squirm fighting stupid regulations in the same way they in lock-step support for everyone else every day of the week.

It’s call hypocrisy.

I don’t support SOPA as written but to listen to jackboot Wikipedia portray itself as “free speech” advocates is enough to bring big chunks into my throat.

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

So much hypocrisy to go around......

Just imagine Exxon pulling a stunt like Wikipedia did the other day? There would be pitch forks and OWS like events. When that little snivelling organization starts babbling about “free speech” the minions line up. Google, Wikipedia, Yahoo to name a few are all anti-freedom of speech organizations. All champions of the same leftist orthodox praying to restore the “fairness doctrine” where more rules can be made up as they go.

Does this mean I support Chris (the ultimate mortgage point shaver) Dodd who is whoring for Hollywood? No. The high horse and phony tone of the anti-SOPA coming and being directed by vermin organizations like Wikipedia and Google is too much to let go of. As for orchestrated full-stupid of the liberal base looking for “bi-partisan” and highly selective support on stopping SOPA while ignoring the very evils they do support about the current internet political suppression (because it favors their idiot views) I have two words; “Stuff it”. SOPA is a perfect illustration of liberal hypocrisy and how the love of money quickly trumps made up values about “free speech” which the liberal orthodox suppresses everyday at Wikipedia and Google.

How many hypocrites can fit on the head of a pin is the question?

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

And I thought Mensa was bad...

There’s nothing even close to remotely true in this collection if non-sequitur statements. Google and Wikipedia are vermin organizations? Wikipedia is a fairly populist organization, I can hardly see how it’s a liberal organization. Google has started to donate to Republican candidates almost as much as Democrats. Wikipedia went black for a day to protest a bill, what would be the Exxon equivalent? Close shop for a day? I’m about as liberal as they get, and I’d hardly have a problem with that. This post doesn’t have a point, at least not one based in fact. All you’re saying is “I hate liberals.” So what? You’re entitled to your opinion but just stating that you don’t like liberals isn’t really moving the conversation.

by Omar Little on Jan 19, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

About Wikipedia

I can’t think of any organization that sums up intellectual decline and political corruption more than Wikipedia. They are right out of “1984” in reinventing history to their narrative which is a cultural left-wing orthodox. It’s a little scary if this is news to you but then again you self-defined yourself and I know the “play dumb” act all to well.

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Cwon1 really?

Its not Wiki, its people that can add to the website without having anything to do with Wiki. Some of the stuff is wrong its because of the individual lol. Or are you talking about Wiki leaks?

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by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 19, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

No FF, I'm talking about Wikipedia. The fake (partisan) online.....

Encyclopedia. Sorry the shorthand confused you.

You might be a constant Wikipedia user which can destroy a good part of your brain, the part that reasons.

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you should choose another example

Wiki is changed by people at any time. Not all the info is accurate but they don’t require a purchase from them in order to contribute. Now oil companies in general have lobbyist that are in contact with the government trying to influence decisions to benefit themselves. People are upset at that and its been said for decades now.

Now I don’t always agree with Google but the fact that its paid money out to build wind farms and then pre bought electricity giving more capital to windfarms I can forgive their trip to China.

All of this I smile at considering it was the brainchild of lamar smith who is a long time Republican of a very red rural section of Texas that now reaches from outside San Antonio to Austin. Are Democrats and Republicans involved………..yes. Everyone involved is probably get some negative feedback for this. But its not all at the feet of the evil Liberals.

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by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 19, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Wiki is changed by people??

FF, you should do some research on exactly the sort of culture wars go on trying to change Wikipedia’s constant agenda and who has the time and inclination in running the unofficial Minitrue of the modern age and how Wiki overwhelming support the sort of slanted ideas that you represent.

Think windmills are a good idea? that’s pathetic but Google has plenty more blood on their hands than a “trip to China”.

You can find hypocrisy anywhere but this farce over SOPA spells L-I-B-E-R-A-L-I-S-M all over it.

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm considering I contribute to Wikipedia

And I am not in any way part of their organization I’m gonna say yes Wiki is changed by people. I seriously think you are confusing this with wiki leaks. I still especially like that the SOPA bill had more Republican backers and its brainchild was Lamar Smith but your screaming liberalism….

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by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 19, 2012 4:00 PM CST reply actions  

No one ever said he was smart...

It’s odd that a bill authored by Lamar Smith is this dirty piece of liberal evil. I guess Alex Jones got to him.

by Omar Little on Jan 20, 2012 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

FF, you get confused easily. I see that now.....

Liberal biasAnother criticism is that a politically liberal bias is predominant. According to Jimmy Wales: “The Wikipedia community is very diverse, from liberal to conservative to libertarian and beyond. If averages mattered, and due to the nature of the wiki software (no voting) they almost certainly don’t, I would say that the Wikipedia community is slightly more liberal than the U.S. population on average, because we are global and the international community of English speakers is slightly more liberal than the U.S. population. There are no data or surveys to back that.”103 Andrew Schlafly created Conservapedia because of his perception that Wikipedia contained a liberal bias.104 Conservapedia’s editors have compiled a list of alleged examples of liberal bias in Wikipedia.105 In 2007, an article in The Christian Post criticised Wikipedia’s coverage of intelligent design, saying that it was biased and hypocritical.106 Lawrence Solomon of the National Review stated that Wikipedia articles on subjects like global warming, intelligent design, and Roe v. Wade are slanted in favor of liberal views.107

In a September 2010 issue of the conservative weekly Human Events, Rowan Scarborough presented a critique of Wikipedia’s coverage of American politicians prominent in the approaching midterm elections as evidence of systemic liberal bias. Scarborough compares the biographical articles of liberal and conservative opponents in Senate races in the Alaska Republican primary and the Delaware and Nevada general election, emphasizing the quantity of negative coverage of tea party-endorsed candidates. He also cites some criticism by Lawrence Solomon and quotes in full the lead section of Wikipedia’s article on the competing Conservapedia as evidence of an underlying bias.108

How’s this for irony?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_bias#Susceptibility_to_bias

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone who doesnt see anything your way is a liberal

There must be so many liberals you need a tinfoil hat right?

Of course wiki can be biased, its made by individuals. If I decide to go on there and under dallas cowboys and state that "the dallas cowboys signed paul bunyon to a 3 year $99 million dollar contract and they went all the way to the world series, then yeah.

Just like your showing a bias to anyone who doesn’t share your view.

Of course you haven’t really proven any of your points but to scream liberalism so I’m not even sure what kind of knowledge you have in this field.

The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 19, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

a hundred false articles out of literally millions

That sure does show a liberal bias yup. Considering that individuals write the articles, you are bound to run into disinformation due to bias – don’t like it or think it is false then get off your ass and correct it.

Go find me some BLATANTLY wrong articles on science, history, biographies, art – you name it.

And I can point you to the individual user who edited the article into wrongness. In twelve years of using wikipedia I have run into ONE instance of blatantly wrong information – Someone had trolled the entire US history entry and pretty much made a complete mess of it. Within hours the page was restored to it’s correct state by restoring the previous entry. Every article that has any ambiguity about its information is flagged as such, the people who frequent wikipedia do a damned fine job of policing the site.

Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome

in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal

by Nick Castillo on Jan 19, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Well its always been known that the facts have a liberal bias.

Please, evolution and climate change? Name any credible scientist that denies those. My god you’re an idiot.

by Omar Little on Jan 20, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

FF, any other ways to change the subject?

My point is very clear, the SOPA talking points about “freedom of speech” are a joke. It’s about liberal organizations wanting to be free of regulations they routinely seek to impose on others. Massive hypocrisy.

You don’t like the point but spare us the act that I didn’t define my point very clearly.

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 4:34 PM CST reply actions  

It has nothing to do with a change of subject

Wikipedia is contributed to by a range of people whos personal opinions is what ultimately shows up as part of the site. Since anyone can change it at any time then yeah ultimately on that site there is freedom of speech. Doesn’t mean its accurate but its all opinion, much like your stance on that particular site.

Its not that you didn’t define it. We can see your stance, theres really not a real point associated with it.

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by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 19, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

All Right, try to follow this link.....

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/1/11/wikifun.html

Click the Wikipedia “talk” page on this topic if you want to see how it really works. You may have no interest in the subject at all, it’s not the point being made.

Wikipedia PRETENDS to be an open source structure, it’s nonsense. Only a tiny enclave control the final content. It’s overwhelmingly biased on simple party lines. It’s a leftist enclave. Add to that the natural advantages of academic and governmental editors (who share the same activist culture and bias) you get the crap product that it is.

It does matter when Wikipedia gets on a tall horse and lies through it’s teeth about “free speech” and tries to evade the very regulatory culture they constantly advocate for others.

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Can you point to evidence on the individual pages that suggests that they're leftist?

They’re pretty nice to crack pots like Ron Paul, Murray Rothbard, Ludwig Von Mises, and Peter Schiff. Most pages of prominent Republicans are locked because of excessive edits. Yeah, what a bunch of commies.

by Omar Little on Jan 20, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok last time really

Youtube in general searches through and black outs, removes, or bans people for posting certain things anyway. Its been that way for years, most sites have something similar. Plus just because you live in country that allows “freedom” doesn’t mean it carries over to a site that you have to agree to terms in order to use it. Basically you agree to play by their rules, youtube being one of them.

Infowars owner Alex Jones is a nationally syndicated radio host whose broadcast appears on an ever-expanding list of big mainstream radio stations. Jones has been afforded feature profiles by the likes of Rolling Stone Magazine, who acknowledged his role as a pioneer in the media world

Infowars.com is clearly a legitimate and important news website that features original content which routinely makes an impact and occasionally goes viral. And yet Google de-listed the website from its news aggregator on a whim with no explanation provided. Since Google and its owner Eric Schmidt are prominent financial contributors to the Obama campaign, we can only assume we were blacklisted for political reasons..

Taken from your own link and you call us sheep?

There is NOTHING in this article that actually proves Google is against freedom of speech, its purely opinion.

You know there are other search engines then google right?

The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 19, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a hilarious description.

Infowars and legitimate in the same sentence, and important to boot. Hilarious. Alex Jones was profiled for being an absolute crackpot. Seriously anyone that listens to this guy for anything but the LULz is basically worse than citing Peter King’s football analysis.

by Omar Little on Jan 20, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

FF

You did note I was against SOPA also right? I’m just against the FULL STUPID framing of the talking points by the likes of Google and other who only want to avoid regulations when they themselves advocate it for every other aspect of society, hypocrites that they are.

“Prove” trhey are against free speech FF? Google uses algorithms to surpress politcal sites they disapprove of and drive trafic to ones they support. The puts warning labels on sites whose ideas they disapprove of. Pure evil.

You clearly live in the land of unicorns and windmills, there is no point in going on. Drink your cool-aid and lets walk away.

by Cwon1 on Jan 19, 2012 11:01 PM CST reply actions  

Quoted again
Since Google and its owner Eric Schmidt are prominent financial contributors to the Obama campaign, we can only assume we were blacklisted for political reasons..

Assuming is what you do well. If they were so hell bent against the site why would they unblock it? Politcal pressure? If they are guilty for what you claim then pressure would mean nothing right.

The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 20, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

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