Loss To Giants Is Just The Rude Awakening Cowboys Needed
Imagine the Cowboys would have won against the Giants. We'd be in the playoffs. With some luck, we might even have gotten a win against the Falcons in the wild-card round, or perhaps not. In any case, the season would have been considered a moderate success.
We could have looked back on the season and surmised that the Cowboys were actually better than their W/L record indicated. After all, we were just a little unlucky during the course of the season, losing four times by four points or less and once in overtime. And surely, those five blown fourth quarter leads were just a fluke.
We could have argued that the Cowboys had a pretty good pass rush. After all, they finished seventh in the league with 42 sacks. Or we could have argued that the secondary wasn't really that bad, after all, the Packers, Patriots and Saints all ranked below us in passing yards allowed. Even the O-line wasn't that bad, after all, they ranked 18th in sacks allowed, right?
Heck, a couple of upgrades here or there and we'd have been ready for a Super Bowl run in 2012. You think I'm kidding? Here's Jerry Jones after the game:
"Just hours ago I thought this core group had an opportunity to go very far into the playoffs," Jones said. "So I'm very disappointed. I'm frankly surprised that we didn't do better and that we didn't win this ballgame.
[... Not until] right up until the end of the fourth quarter did it really dawn on me that we probably weren't going to be in the playoffs. And that's a shame, because we've got a team in here that I think is good enough to play and play well, but we didn't show it tonight."
Thank God we lost to the Giants.
Everything that's wrong with the Cowboys was highlighted in yesterday's loss:
A team that cannot rise to the occasion when it most needs to and lost four of its final five games down the stretch. An offensive line that allowed a season-high six sacks and was as porous as it's been all season. A running game that's scored only five TDs all season. A special teams unit that ranks close to the bottom of the league in almost all categories. A secondary that ranks 25th in defensive passer rating. A pass rush that can't get pressure on the QB when it counts.
The Cowboys missed the playoffs for the second year in a row, the first time since the 2004 and 2005 seasons. That's how bad things currently are. The Cowboys are 8-8, and that is not an accident. The Cowboys are an average team, and have been for quite a while. Everybody knows it, except the Cowboys themselves and their most hardcore fans.
And where Wade Phillips was used as the convenient cop-out for last year's 6-10 record, the excuses will not be as easy to come by this year. And that is a good thing.
The Cowboys must now focus on fixing this team. And let's be crystal clear, this team needs a lot fixing - on offense, defense, special teams and on coaching. Perhaps the way the season played out this year will provide for a greater sense of urgency than the Cowboys displayed in 2009, when an improbable late-season defensive surge lifted the Cowboys into the playoffs and delayed some inevitable rebuilding.
Thank God we lost to the Giants. That loss and missing the playoffs may just have been the rude awakening the organization needed.
And please, stop all the talk about how talented this roster is, or how a roster with this much talent should have produced better results. Stop it right now. The talent on this team got us to 8-8. It's going to take a talent transfusion to get this team anywhere.
The Cowboys must look at the entire offseason talent acquisition process - free agency, the draft, UDFA's, trades - and figure out a way to get this team back on track.
After the loss, Garrett said the Cowboys have to get better across the across the board, starting with him and including the coaching staff. He didn't want to talk about specific players, but the DMN notes that 21 Cowboys (or 40% of the roster) have contracts that expire at the end of the season. That's a good place to start as the Cowboys think about what needs to be done to become a competitive NFL franchise again.
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the above quote is the problem with Jerry the GM.
he always overrates the talent on this team. Its not just that they played poorly, they just aren’t good enough.
This team is as average as it gets. Let’s hope a real off-season can change that.
and…
first?
by WA_Cowboy on Jan 2, 2012 9:31 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
What is
Jerry smoking? Seriously. Did he really say that? He really believed that this team was going far in the playoffs? What a joke.
I wonder
How much of that Jerry believes, and how much is just PR. Sadly, I think he probably believed what he said, which is somehow even worse!
by Cowboys Dominance on Jan 3, 2012 6:15 AM CST up reply actions
Glad I read a few comments before posting because I was going to ask the same question.
I really hope Jerruh knows the team is not talented and he has done a bad GM job, but his ego will not allow him to admit that to the media.
But then I remember what Jerruh has done for the past 16 years and I realize he believes he is a good GM and has built a good team, so he is “disappointed” and “surprised” that the players didn’t do better. It must be their fault because it cannot be his, according to Jerruh.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
I agree with you 100%
The big problem now is Jones thinks we’re STILL a very talented team, but we aren’t. Unfortunately, he controls the purse strings and makes ALL the decisions about player aquisition. I hope Garrett (and the rest of the staff + scouts) is a good talent evaluator. If you think about it, we won 3 SBs because Jimmy was great at talent evaluation. Jones ain’t.
by CapnComeback on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
I thought Jerry was lying to us
When he said we were making a run this year, and that he needed to sell tickets for his monstrosity of a stadium. But no, he was serious. What’s sad is I’d be less upset if he’d been lying.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Jan 2, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Jerry is delusional as are most owners. They grossly overestimate their teams
because they haven’t realistically and objectively evaluated their own teams and the competition. I remember Jerry’s astonishment after ‘95 when he couldn’t believe a reporter thought the Boyz will not make another superbowl given the team’s talent (the ’95 team was considerably weaker than the ’94) Anyways, talk of the other team winning considered taboo and defeatist when it can actually have the opposite effect.
Ha!
Except most owners hire someone who can more realistically evaluate the roster
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Most? 30 other owners hire a GM.
Mike Brown in Cincy is the only other owner/GM.
Cincy. Think about that.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
The only reason the Cowboys won 8 games is because of Tony Romo and the extremely weak schedule. They played one awful team after another.
The only team the cowboys
beat with a winning record all season was San Francisco. That should tell you we are an 8-8 team
by cmttx on Jan 2, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
go waste your breath somewhere else
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 2, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
He is entitled to his opinion as is everyone else...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Romo caused a blocked punt for 6 points against the Jets? Wow.
by Hatchetman337 on Jan 3, 2012 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe you should have watched the game fella.
by Hatchetman337 on Jan 3, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Let me also mention that no, I'm not worshipping anyone.
Romo did make a few mistakes against the Giants. The fumble at the end was a silly mistake on his part, because he should’ve kept running when he got away from Tuck, but at that point, the game was essentially over anyway.
by Hatchetman337 on Jan 3, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
that november stretch was a joke
Cannot believe the NFL lined up creampuffs like that. Its like they were begging us to collapse in December again.
Ratings baby
I’m the biggest fag on mania, I’m more queer than a football bat, I wish i could get all brokeback with Cowboy, I should never pick a country boy to beat a thug. I was out of my mind and will never dis the Diaz brothers again. Actually Nate is the one that’s going to take Frankie’s title. Cruz Jackson is a demigod to all you bitches. and i am his bitch now, I have lost twice to him. Someone please pick a sig bet with him as i can no longer afford to take the beating i have taken.
by ItalianStallion54 on Jan 2, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Defense needs a major overhaul...
Hopefully Rob Ryan can get some draft picks.
The O-line will improve as they got a lot younger this year, and the skill positions are all pretty solid right now (when healthy).
The OL got younger, but not better.
They are young and not that talented. I don’t know if that’s a good thing. They need big time help. In today’s NFL, the bigger problem for this team was not scoring points rather than points allowed. We have a ton of talent at the skill positions and QB, so it has to be the line, right?
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 2, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
Let's see what a full off-season does. Some quality time with Mike Woicik and some coaching should help the O-Line.
If a good interior O-lineman falls to them in the draft, they could use the depth there, but overall they could probably do well if they took the best defensive player available in each round. Maybe a better D-line would help the secondary. Other than that, maybe a late round pick for some depth at running back.
cowboys.xanadu-fx.com
said that last year about Costa
a full offseason would do wonders, and I think it didn’t
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
In fairness
There was no offseason work this year.
I ran into a group of men trying to take an old lady's purse and decided it was my duty to help out. She was a tough old broad, but in the end we got her purse.
by MilesAhead on Jan 2, 2012 11:47 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
there was an offseason
and he was free to get in better shape during it.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Sam young tried that
and spent most of the training camp breaking his body down to get it built up the correct way
Costa didnt get a full off season either smart aleck. Plus Costa is nothing more than
career backup honestly.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
I am sure that prior to leaving he was instructed on how to get ready
either he sat on the couch or it didn’t work.
You can shove the name calling by the way. Why do you wish to lower the level of discourse on this site? Please expand on your motivations for your base language.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Working out on your own is not the same working with the team trainers and
conditioning crew. The off season these players would have had was negated by the lockouts. Well, if you are going to post in that manner then I will call it like I see it. You are posting in a manner that is very much like a smart aleck I know better than you tone. Btw, you can shove your know it all attitude. Your screen name shows your mentality level to all of us.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
more ad hominem
by the way, my name is a joke, but way to use it to attack me again.
He wasted an offseason, and you calling me schoolyard names won’t change that.
There were resources available to these players, but you can make excuses if that works for you.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
:(
I kinda miss Switzer. There was SB in there somewhere…
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
there was a Superbowl
there was blow, there were hookers.
How do you not love that era? That is when the Dallas Cowboys were the Dallas Cowboys, if you know what I mean.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
there was a firearm in his carry on
back when football was football
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
Shows just how stupid Switzer actually is though. How do you not
remember where you placed you firearms?
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
exactly
and it wasn’t on purpose, it was just so his grandkids wouldn’t play with it.
Oh, hey, there is my loaded .38. I was looking for that!
Like me losing my golf hat.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
How od you know he wasted his off season? Were you there with him
during the off season? Did you personally oversee his training or lack there of? Im curious to know. Some guys are just meant to backups no matter how hard they try. But to say he wasted his off season without having been there is nothing more then your personal opinion and conjecture. It is NOT a fact.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
you said his offseason was negated by lockouts
I took that as fact.
If you were wrong, apology accepted and I will buy you a cold beer.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
now I am being dickish
I just don;t think you can always count on the offseason to take someone to the next level.
Some guys are who they are.
Nagy and Kowalski look like they are worth keeping, Costa should be gone.
Stephen McGee may need a different league to play in.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
I meant his off season with the team trainers that every player on
every team normally has. Plus Woicik didnt have the time before the lockout to create training programs for every player. He was only there for a short period of time before the lockout if im not mistaken.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
pro athletes can hire trainers
This isn’t rocket science
by bewareofdware on Jan 2, 2012 1:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They can do that but most of those outside trainers are
not necessarily in the same league as those in the NFL or other professional sports. Theres a reason Woicik is considered the best at what he does and why the Cheatriots organization was upset when Woicik got away.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Stratos, as someone who is a private coach and trainer that you just insulted, get a clue
There is a very big outside buisiness with position coaching, trainers and scouts out there. I prefer working as a private coach with players due to the fact I am not limited on the amount of hours and days I can work with clients. I run an offseaason position and conditioning program that goes for 4 weeks at 14 hours a day, then work most of my clients another 4 weeks in the offseason on position specific training at 14 hours a day. I have some clients I work with in Dallas about 20 hours a week durring the season.
I offer more in depth training than coaches for an NFL team can do under the CBA’s. I would say that this training is not cheap for a player or an NFL draft prospect. Most that use our sevices spend between 25k to 100k a year depending on what level they want. If they have an injury and want to rehab at advanced services, that acost another 100k during a season.
Get a clue before you start insulting a lot of hard working people.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
The worst part isn't that he wasted an offseason
Because he worked out probably as diligently as anyone. I think it was at the Power Train Institute with a bunch of other NFL players. It’s that he had worked out this offseason and it produced the poor player we saw on Sunday night. We can give him more offseasons, and the rest of the dang team, and we’ll be having this same conversation next year too
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
I don't understand why Hudson Houck is so highly regarded
He might have been good at one time, but it’s been a long time since he has had a good OL in Dallas. He should be replaced
by StillHateTheGiants on Jan 3, 2012 6:20 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I think he's either past his prime or over rated all along
He doesn’t seem to work well with our players. Either doesn’t know how to motivate them or isn’t developing them properly. Something’s wrong and I think he needs to go
You can do a lot of things in life. You can't stab a teammate with a pair of scissors. - Kevin Smith
Yeah you're right...
Working out at home replaces minicamps, training camps, and 2 a days. Please.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
i believe Costa could be better at guard.
the guy can obviously play & with some strength/coaching he could be more then a backup IMO.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Even my Grandma said he sucks
Costa needs to find a nice spot on a bench he can occupy elsewhere. Perhaps the Redskins would take him. I hear they will take anyone.
I think Costa would be servicable as backup but I dont think he is starter material
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
No he can't
He was the weakest part of this O-line once Nagy went down.
Go put on the Patriots tape of him getting blown into the backfield by Vince Wilfork and ILB blitzes. Now you want that guy 1:1 with Ndomokong Suh? Oh, wait, that’ll be solved by the magical “weight room”. Yep, just hire any trucker off the street, put them in the weight room with Woicik, and they magically become Larry Allen.
Costa is a failure and should be cut.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Good point about Wocik...
Just bad luck that both Ryan and him come on board with no offseason.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Yeah, when Matt Flynn comes in and gets 480 yards with the same thing Rodgers was working with...
It’s pretty clear that our whole team sucks, and that’s because the O-line and D-line are sub-par.
Flip Smith/Free and we'll see major improvement
It looks like Arkin will need at least another year of seasoning before he’s ready, and Kowalski looks to me like a better center than Costa. Definitely replace Kosier. I think we have 4 legitimate pieces to a very good line.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Jan 2, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
really on offense we need guards and a center
other than that, I think the offense is fine
the problem is that defense
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:34 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yes
we need a big NT, tired of seeing no push up the middle and our OLB getting pushed right past the QB allowing a step up
by carolinacowboy on Jan 2, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
defense is a problem
but I think a lot of people knew that already, no surprise there
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Do you guys think
moving Ratliff to DE opposite side of Hatcher and drafting a good OLB to take Spencer’s place and a DT would be a good start?? I know the secondary needs and overhaul as well, just wondering what the thoughts are on Ratliff moving to End would do for the pass rush?
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
gotta start somewhere
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry
hit enter too fast…..do you guys think moving Ratliff to DE opposite side of Hatcher then draft a OLB to replace Spencer, and a DT to rotate plays with Lissemore would improve results?
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
Not sure anymore
Ratliff lined up in the DE position a few times last night didn’t get much push there either rats skills makes him play better against big slower centers than good pulling guards. And tackles. I’m not sure rat will move.
by Sado44 on Jan 2, 2012 11:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe, maybe not
I know Ratliff made the pro bowl, IMO more on reputation, but he hasnt been much of a factor in games for some time. He made a couple of plays last night, but we all saw he was locked down by their center most of the night. Even the commentators were crediting the Giants center for handling Ratliff. Time for a change. He is still quick enough and that might be what we need at DE. Either way I think major change is happeining on the DL in the offseason…it has to.
Hes also been playing with a rib cage injury for several weeks. If youve ever
had a similar injury you would know that even sore ribs forces some guys to sit during basic running drills. Imagine trying to to twist and turn and push around a 300lb guy with the injury he has. Not easy at all. Tells me me Rat is a gamer going even though not at 100%.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
I understand
but he was falling off since last year. Its not just this year. He is on the other side of 30. He strength is his high motor, but he can’t escape father time and it appears to be catching up to him.
signed for 6 more years
Rat’s motor is never an issue, but I fear him breaking down
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Of course he will
All players do. Will the Cowboys cut ties before it’s too late, or will we see another Newman situation?
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I think with the development of Brent and Lissemore who really
came around later in the year next we might be able to spell Rat a bit barring injuries. Plus we also have to wait see what happens in the draft and FA.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
i'm not seeing the B.Coefild comparisons with Brent.
Brent might be okay but i wouldn’t count on him to make a difference.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Exactly. And here's why Jerry Jones is the definition of "crazy."
The definition of crazy is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results.
And frankly, it’s driving this longtime Cowboys fan crazy.
Ugh.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
most of the time
when ratliff was locked up it was a double team. He absolutely destroyed the giants center on a good amount of plays. Ratliff at NT is not a problem. Last year he was decent at best. This year he’s stood up in the running game and got huge penetration. He wont last long though, so a stud DE would be a good idea.
go back and watch the game
He was handled one one by their center most of the game. Collinsworth must of mentioned the center handling Ratliff 4 or 5 times…
Defense
I think any changes along the defense side of the ball is an improvement, all positions need upgraded
by carolinacowboy on Jan 2, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
NO!
The advantages he has against OCs, who are the smallest, least athletic players on the field, would be negated against OTs, who are much bigger and more athletic. The quickness Rat used to beat centers would be negated against division OTs, who are used to seeing the likes of Ware, Tuck, Cole, Babin, Orakpo, Pierre-Paul, etc.
Is Rat in that category? Not even close…
4-3 would fix a lot of the problems on this team.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking d line , of course.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 2, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
This team is gonna run the 3-4
as long as #94 has life in him.
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
you should be happy mensa, they used some 4-3 looks against the Giants
Ware and hatcher were DEs, Lissemore and Ratliff were the DTs.
Lee, Carter were LBs and I forget who the last LB was (I wanna see brookings)
by somebodyquiet on Jan 2, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
too bad Rat lost that quickness this year....
he wasnt very good
by death of the cool on Jan 2, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Rat is playing with a rib injury last several weeks. That will take away some
of your burst and strength.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
hes been playing hurt, and hasn't played poorly
I thought he was definitely better than 2010, but thats my opinion.
As long as we swap Tyson and Free next season.
Whatever was wrong with Doug Free this year, he wasn’t capable of being the LT. I’d switch them on paper now.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
Witten Is Showing Wear and Tear
. . . and Martellus Bennett is not an offensive threat. That third guy (Phillips) is servicable but Dallas needs an offensive threat at TE, to compliment Witten. I don’ t think we have a fullback. I guess this just demonstrates how bad this roster is at the moment.
Yeah, replace 3 out of 5 linemen, no problem!
I’m being pleasantly sarcastic.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
idk if you can franchise him, I doubt it
idk the rules but I dont think we can
he needs to be resigned, losing him will be real bad
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
My only reason for asking that he is going to be a hot commodity when FA opens up.
The Boys can’t lose him. At least they would get something in return.
like I said
I think the rules prevent that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
That's not good news.
A bidding war for a WR is that last thing Jerrah needs to be involved in. Hopefully Robinson’s love for the Boys will win out.
Vested veteran rule means Robinson is a free agent. Nothing Dallas can do about it.
Robinson is a vested veteran (with four previous years of experience) signed under a minimum-salary benefit contract that doesn’t allow the Cowboys to renegotiate with him during his contract year.
That means Robinson will become a free agent regardless and every other NFL team will have a chance to sign him when the free agency period opens in early March.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 2, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
I'd bet that the minute you gave Robinson his first payday....
he’d likely do what many others have….. go thru the motions and pick up a paycheck.
but of course,
once you become a ferrari in jerrys garage, you dont have to do anything but look good
see Austin, Miles
Tony Romo - Mr. November
by McLovin9 on Jan 2, 2012 12:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
see Free, Doug. scandrick, orlando
Not to mention Sensabaugh has had his head completely up his butt since signing. What exactly was he doing running after Newman on the first Cruz TD? That was freaking awful.
by bewareofdware on Jan 2, 2012 1:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah he's an idiot that was a nonsense
and he never was a ferrari, i don’t understand how a JAG like him was resigned
Sensabaugh was the cover-1 safety
It was a free safety blitz. Sensabaugh should have been way off the line with a “deeper than the deepest” mindset. Instead he inexplicably jumps 5 yards towards the line of scrimmage to cover a route Newman already has.
The guy doesn’t know how to play safety.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
No, it won't
The Cowboys already have two big play guys. No reason to pay a hefty sum to Robinson.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
Unless...see my post beow
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Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
you need 3 WR's in this league
especially considering Robinson was easily our best WR
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
If you believe you have a top QB
Then you invest in the line and let your QB make your receivers look better
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Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
yeah cant wait to see that #3, Ogletree? Holley?
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
If the line was better
And Romo had ample time, Miles, Dez and Witten would be enough even for Holley to succeed
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Thanks
Cowboys should look at themselves very objectively
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
That's what I hope for
JJ is clearly an optimist when it comes to the roster. It took an epic meltdown on the o-line to get him to dump old, hurt linemen. I’m hoping the clear issues on defense (OK, and the center of the o-line) cause a similar objective look….
Don't believe everything you think.
Disagree
You need your top 3 receivers to have that connection with your QB. Right now IMO only Miles, Witten and Robinson have that.
by jtgreet02 on Jan 2, 2012 10:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Connections improve a lot
When the QB has enough time to scan the field
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Holley went 7 for 7 and all of them were for 1st down.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
i thought the brains on this site said Dallas didn't need a #3 WR with Witten around?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
There we go again, overrating what talent we have...
Robinson worked primarily against single coverage all season. In some games, he got most of the looks because of that and because of the QB’s reluctance to challenge double coverage (on Dez). In the Arizona game, Robinson was matched up against AZ’s No. 2 corner and was quite pedestrian. That’s not a No. 1 receiver.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
i wish dallas would have signed em for 2 years w/ option..........
because tems are definitly going to bid high for Robinson….. (
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
FT is an expensive proposition
For a #3 WR, for the entire WR corps and for a 4th year player that has put together a single decent season. Actually, 3/4 of a season. No problem locking him up, but overpaying would be even worse.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
Hmm, I wonder if Jerry has a problem with the latter
Naahhh
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
We need a banger at RB
And a bulldozer at FB. I like Murray/Felix, but they’re the same guy with the same skill set and talent. They need a guy that can get those hard yards up the middle, so that our smaller QB isn’t trying a QB sneak and getting rejected on 4th and less than a yard.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 2, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
FB
Hynoski definitely outplayed Fiametta last night, he didn’t miss his blocks
by carolinacowboy on Jan 2, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
Can Anyone Explain
. . . how Dallas did not draft Hynoski?
You'd have to ask the Dallas brain trust.
He was one of my pet cats.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
For some reason they thought Chapas was going to be the next great thing
and they were incredibly wrong.
Hynoski’s success is no surprise to many of us who were pleading for him on draft day. BTB and Cowboys Nation were targeting this guy in November.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
they liked chapas' versatility and how sound he was with his assignments
he just needed to get stronger but they’ve been saying that for a lot of guys. I don’t know
by somebodyquiet on Jan 2, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
i guess the same reason nobody else did.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Fiammetta Sucked Last Night
. . .. he missed blocks; got blown up. Hynoski played very well, on the other hand.
Remember Though
Dallas has made the Giants running game look good. Even with good games against the Cowboys, the Giants are last in rushing (both totals and per attempt). I don’t know what the scouting on Hynoski would say about him across the whole season, but the team rushing stats don’t scream “ohmygod if only we had that guy”…
have you watched Murray?
dude is mad physical, nothing like Felix
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Murray is defn our answer at rb
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
agreed
and his physicality, I think, inspired Felix to be more physical later in the year.
Felix ran harder the past 6-8 games that he has his entire career.
Felix disappeard like always
Sammy Morris looked better late in the game
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Felix is pretty much a liability now
His speed has been stolen because of injuries and will never return, the rest of his skills are very average, and he’s too small to effectively pass protect. And that’s while he’s healthy, which he only is for half a season.
I’d seriously consider cutting him and rolling with Murray/Tanner next year.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Felix also has an injured hammy
he lost a lot of his burst because of it
by somebodyquiet on Jan 2, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think Sammy should be in camp next season
he will help Phillip Tanner a ton
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They need a guy that can get those hard yards up the middle
You mean like Marion Barber? I think Murray can get those hard yards. We just need a good interior line. Perhaps a center that would not get pushed back a lot.
Did you see Murray on Thanksgiving Day? Those are hard yards when you're
trying to run the clock down and they know you’re running! We’ll be fine with Murray and mixing in Felix and why not keep Sammy Morris as the 3rd back, the guy looked damn good coming off the couch!
Because we have Tanner who is younger and probably fast than Morris. although
Morris might be a good guy to bring in for an asst. position coach
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Bring Sammy to camp
he will be a great mentor for Phillip Tanner
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
They're not even close to the same guy...
Murray was a workhorse in college, Felix wasn’t.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
I still think they should shop Ware
if some team is willing to part with a couple #1’s, or something like that, I would hope the Cowboys would consider such an offer. Unfortunately, there probably isn’t another owner or GM that would be willing to give up such a draft haul aside from our own Jerry Jones.
at this point
it looks unlikely we will be a superbowl caliber team before Romo retires. There is not a single player on the roster who should be untradeable, though clearly I’d prefer guys like Ware and Witten retire as Cowboys, considering their HOF worthy careers.
I would too
But that’s what makes us fans.
Someone that knows what’s what would be calling other teams right now to see what he could get for someone like Ware.
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Disgusting
Thank God we lost to the Giants.
I think most of us knew these things without having to lose this game. In my opinion this game had zero influence on how they will approach the off season.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
I hope thats not true
I was hoping this would wake Jerry Jones up but yeah those comments really pissed me off
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
All it suggests
is that if they had beat the Giants and made the playoffs that the entire organization would have “not woke up” and stayed pat with this crappy ass defense that we have. Everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY knew even before this game that Newman is gone, Brooking is gone, James is gone, Elam is gone. I say this because we didn’t have to lost this game for the front office to know this.
We didnt want to admit it but this year was the first year in rebuilding project. Whether we won or lost this game had zero impact on how this team continued into the future.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
i'd add Sensabaugh to that list of DBs that suck & Jerry resigned him to a new deal.
Sensabaugh is softest SS i’ve ever seen & he doesn’t even cover very well. Jerry wasted all offseason chasing Nnamdi instead of getting a J.Joesph. after no one in the NFL wanted Elam or Sensa, Jerry decides to sign them like its going to make things better lol.
if the ignorance doesn’t stop in the front office then don’t expect any changes from this team. Dallas has good young HC, a QB that can win & a solid DC so the pieces are there.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I think Campo deserves some of the credit for the DBs poor performance the past
couple of seasons
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Precisely, yet he is still here...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Campo needs to go and let Maxie take over. I mean he actually played in the
league and had some success at it. Give him a host and see how things go.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
what about the Dolphins secondary coach?
i thought he’s done a great job with that secondary & none of those guys were big time names before he got them.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
If Bowles gets the Dolphins job then I doubt he gets away from them.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Amazing he's still here...
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Paul, the point is that a win would have allowed Jerry to continue to delude himself
Its these wakeup call moments in which he conducts himself and the organization best—i.e., when he’s scared. When he’s confident, he gets cocky and loses perspective.
That’s why Johnson and Parcells were so good for the organization—they were always “scared”—i.e., they always wanted better personnel, saw holes in the roster (even a 13-3 roster), etc.
by rabblerousr on Jan 2, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
And if he actually believes what he said, he IS delusional
If that wasn’t Jerry’s BS spin, they’ll be just as average next year.
"Everything is on the One." -- George Clinton, Parliament/Funkadelic
With an improved defense, everything should be on the One.
Jerry is alcohol addled
. . . too much hooch down the hatch; did you see his comedy routine on the NFL network broadcast? Jones needs to hire a GM and STFU.
I hate to break it to you but that was Jerry from the heart
That’s what the man believes.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
. . . didn’t mean he was drunk at the time, but, that over the years, over the decades, the man has poured too much hootch down the hatch, and, his mind is addled. Remember when he was on his way to church for big deal family event and got into a pissing match with a local cop? I think Jerry is delusional in an alcoholic way. What else could motivate or explain the behavior with him on the sideliines in the Philly game? Ego mania, superimposed on a brain atrophied from too much booze over the years, and the smoke blown up his butt by his hanger oners. Compare Mark Cuban? You think Cuban has the alcohol intake of Jerry?
I think we as fans know these things to be true
it just proves what an alternate universe our owner/GM is in. If Jerry had been paying a GM since 1989 and that GM had won 3 Super Bowls, but the last in ‘95, and only one playoff win since…well I think we all know what would happen to that individual if he wasn’t the man in the mirror.
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Im sorry guys but i dont think they ever planned on winning the last two games.
Why make walker inactive. The team said that they wanted to use the opportunity to look at other players before contracts where up. Why would you not have your corners activated when you know the biggest problem on defense in your secondary. Seriously it hurts to think they let up on there fans if this is the case but what can you do.
by Sado44 on Jan 2, 2012 11:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
But did JJ accept that?
probably not. Now perhaps RR will have some leverage to acquire a better defense.
Don't believe everything you think.
We did, but not Jerry...
He would have brought this same crap team back had we made the playoffs. Finally now national analysts are starting to see the lack of talent, and the blame goes straight to the top.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Spot on OCC,
this team needs major surgery , they always find a way to lose big games.
it seems to be a systemic failing from the owner to the coaches and the players.
if your’e owner is in denial then how in hell can we expect the players to be accountable.
stop sugar coating things Jerry ,we have a mediocre team 8-8 says so.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
I don't know
If the center of the o-line were not a revolving door and someone other than Ware could get to the QB, this team would have locked up the East weeks ago.
Yes, the secondary is porous, but no secondary is going to look good when the QB has all day. Jenkins was solid, Scandrick and Sensabaugh were average to good, Elam was average at best and Newman and Ball were horrific. They have been this way all year (which is why NY knew to attack Newman and Ball all game). However, even with that, a decent pass-rush would have taken 7-10 points off the board and an extra half-second per play would have allowed Romo to put more points up.
I thought I would be more torn up about the loss, but holes are where we all knew they were. The good players played well, the bad ones played poorly.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
Did you see Scandrick right with Cruz, then turns to see the ball with as much time as
Cruz has, and just makes no move at all for the ball. Just stands behind his back and let’s him make that catch? He had time to make a move and at least get in between Cruz and the ball if not even intercept it. It just shows he has zero instincts and it was pathetic. I almost threw a beer bottle through the TV on that play. If this team could just slightly improve their defense on 3rd down, they’d actually have one of the better defenses in the league!
There is a reason he was drafted in the fifth round...
We keep thinking the players we draft in later rounds and all the UDFA’s who make the team have elite talent. They don’t.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Just thank God he was not another 'project' player
Those never even sniff the field
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
You're right, there is a reason he was drafted in the 5th round
Off the field problems. He was arrested at Boise St before the draft.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
There is no hope with Jerry. He thinks we are maybe 1 player away.
Things went as expected last night. We couldn’t have a draft good enough to fill all the holes on this team. More importantly we don’t draft winners. This team has a loser’s mentality.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
You are correct mensa .
" This team has a loser mentality ".
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 2, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
Along these lines, I can't help but keep thinking about the first big play of the game...
that wasn’t a big play at all. I just knew Romo was going to miss the throw to Dez. He missed it so many times this season. See the Arizona game for just one example. Dez was wide open. There was no safety over the top. So Dez angled the route back toward the hash marks, just as receivers are taught to do…Yet, Romo throws to the sideline almost as if he was thinking that Dez was going to make the same mistake Miles made in the first Giants game. (That’s exactly what I thought he would do. Outsmart himself.)
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
This Organization and Franchise
now, finally, has a loser mentality; a decade and a half (going on two decades now!) of losing will create a culture of losing. Dallas has lost for so long now that losing is a way of life at Valley Ranch. Cowboys are losers. Just like the Ryan brothers are fat, the Cowboys are losers.
Well you should be happy today
They lost just like you wanted so they can start the rebuild faster, right? Besides no team in the NFL fills all of their holes. Every team in the NFL has several huge weaknesses.
same things I got blasted for when I said them earlier in the year
we are inconsistent and have not shown up in big games
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
While I do agree with them not showing up...
It doesn’t matter if 48 of the players did…what Newman, Sensabaugh, Ball, and Scandrick did yesterday was abysmal. So while I think a lot of players will not be back next year…to be fair…it was a handful that cost them yesterday. And you know what a real big play was? Witten (the biggest softee ever) not getting that first down before that 4th down; but they aren’t going to be cutting him.
Agree
Why he tries to stop and go back the other way all the time instead of just using his body to power thru made me mad last night
by carolinacowboy on Jan 2, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah for as big as Witten is...
I’ve never see a guy get tackled by smaller players as many times as he does.
Yeah I know what you mean about Witten
I say if a team is willing to give up a #1 for him, do it. He’s getting up there, his body will be breaking down soon, etc. Like with a possible Ware trade, get younger and hopefully hit on some of those high draft picks.
Maybe a 3rd at best
Let’s not do any more Jerry impersonations, please
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
not to dwell on 1 play
but how the heck did Witten NOT get that first down on the series where we tried the qb sneak? Why is he trying to stiff arm people instead of running forward?
And for that matter, why did we try a qb sneak? That was the most maddening play of the night for me.
we never ever do it
and I thought there was good reason – our interior Ol stinks and Romo is small, not to mention you don’t want to subject him to that considering his hand.
we just did it a couple of weeks ago
and Romo got the first down then.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
i can assure you Witten is the least of this teams problems & theres no one even close to replace him
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Terrible blocker, great receiver, no quickness or strength any more
He’s rapidly becoming a shell of his former self. He tries to tap dance around quicker players instead of fighting for yards.
you're delusional or blind
Witten is one of the best blocking TEs in the game hands down
In Romo we Trust
Spot on
As great a pass catcher as he is, he may be THE WORST guy in the league after the catch. That 3rd down play was embarrassing. And his play in the Jets game, just before the Romo fumble was atrocious. One on with a DB at the 3 yard line, and he gets pushed out of bounds? If he lowers his shoulder, he scores, and we win.
by sportsfanatic21 on Jan 2, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
What does it mean to "Show up"?
I think the Cowboys have “showed up” in recent games. Last night, even in the first half, I thought that they played hard. But they were overpowered by a better team, and the Giants exploited a series of talent mismatches that were too numerous to cover up and hide.
Yeah and what is up with RR not adjusting before halftime
how many times were we going to see that FB flat pass ugh
Tony Romo 2011's League's Most Valuable Player and 2012's Superbowl MVP
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
i thought RR called a good game & put the players in good position to make plays.
its not RR fault when Newman, Sensa, Scandrick or even Lee don’t adjust on the field. RR can’t hold there hand on the field
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
the goofs still dont understand the playbook
call it what you want but both sides(coaching and players) need to take fault for being unable to run the schemes
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 2, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
I don't agree they were overpowered. How would you describe the second half then?
Look I agree that an overhaul needs to be made…pronto! But if Scandrick makes that play on Cruz, I feel it was anyone’s ballgame. If Dallas was better on 3rd down defense in the first half they might have won.
by TheCowboyFan on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
And its been said already,
But it’s funny “If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle”.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
+1000000
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
And if...
Miles makes that catch in the first game we aren’t having this conversation. If’s didn’t happen. What happened on the field did, and that is all we can make decisions on. As Parcells used to say, you are what your record says you are. And unfortunately for our beloved Cowboys they are an 8-8 football team.
by jtgreet02 on Jan 2, 2012 12:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If this if that
Can’t make a living on ifs.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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by wilddre22 on Jan 3, 2012 1:50 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
This is what I like about the team
they are showing up. What’s wrong is simply a talent problem. You can’t watch Brady, Ball and Newman (and others) and not realize that they couldn’t possibly be much better.
Don't believe everything you think.
I agree
when Terrance Newman gets beat to the corner by Victor Cruz, and Sensabaugh played down a little due to concern about the rb so he couldn’t catch up, we actually did nothing wrong on that play. The problem was our cb couldn’t cover Cruz.
How about the mistakes?
Romo interception; Ware offsides; Spencer offsides (times two) – hello? This is Eli; like he is a stranger to a hard count, for crying ffffing out loud. How many loose balls did Dallas miss? Dez fumbled a return. Missed tackles galore; Newman, Elam . . . missed assignments at the snap on defense. WTF? That fourth down play was pathetic. Ball catching the punt inside the five after going out of bounds (he did not need to touch the ball since there were other players around and the ball was going to die anyway)? Dumbass team playing with their heads up their butts. Being bad or stupid might be okay, but being both at the same time is not good.
Do we really need any more proof that Jerry is delusional?
While other GMs are executing multi-year plans and trying to maximize returns on their players, Jerry is happy being a homer that gets to run his team.
Does anyone think there is long-term strategy in place? Any vision to build a team around the best players’ strengths?
Everyone laughs when TV pundits talk about identity. Do you realize what the Cowboys’ vision has been over the last decade? Basically, it is a collection of flashy WRs. Galloway, T.O., Roy Willy and now Dez.
No knock on Dez, but if the Cowboys had a real plan to build a successful team around their franchise player, the guy that should have been drafted that year was Bulaga.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:40 AM CST reply actions
How is this so hard for Jerry to understand?
If you can’t rush the passer and protect your passer, the skill players are irrelevant.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
Exactly
The Cowboys were a horrible team that lucked into Romo. Then, they proceed to flush that luck down the toilet and revert to being horrible again.
I guess, everything comes back to baseline
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Seriously...
This is a five win team that got to eight wins because of Romo and a soft schedule.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
by dave33 on Jan 2, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You wanted us to draft Bulaga...
but you think we were lucky to get Romo? Romo, when we could have had Rodgers in 2005? If I remember correctly, we passed Rodgers up for Spears.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
The one that still gets me is when we passed on Steven Jackson
and took Julius Jones. Every time I see Jackson being his typical awesome, dynamic self, I close my eyes and see Julius Jones running into the backs of blockers. These visions haunt me
Bill Parcells was the best thing that every happened to the Cowboys...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
In Fairness
we got Jones and a number one the next year; in part this allowed for the drafting of Ware. But, yes not taking Jackson, and worse, in the year of the running back of all time, we got Felix and Tashard . . . we could have had any combinations of All Pro and future Hall of Famers that came out in that draft. Don’t forget we moved up dramatically to get Spencer; best athelete in the draft, according to Jones at the time.
I get the feeling that he's still blinded by Deion
He gets so giddy in the fact of athleticism that he forgets that football is always about the big uglies.
Jerry has a multi-year plan
We are in year 15 of a 30 year rebuilding plan.
^this
Lilly, Hayes, Staubach, Waters, Dorsett, Bates, Novacek, Emmitt, Woodson, Ware, Witten, Lee. The Legacy lives on.
by wtshaolin on Jan 2, 2012 10:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
What happens in year 30? Is that when Jerry turns over the keys to Steven?
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
oh god, I hope it's not that kid we always see at the games
by somebodyquiet on Jan 2, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Good god, but someday, yes the kingdom will be his.
Birth lottery.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
So because 95 was the last year they won the Super Bowl they've been rebuilding since then?
They won the division in 96 and 98 too…I’d say the rebuild started when Emmitt left, which was about six years too late.
so building around a franchise QB doesn't work anymore?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I think you missed my point
Romo is the franchise guy. Keep him healthy with better protection.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
my bad, i agree 100%
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Bulaga was drafted 22nd.
They picked what? 25th then, the Packers liked him and wouldn’t trade. Bulaga wasn’t draftable. Hell, you may as well say they should have drafted Joe Hayden.
I still cannot believe they gave Gerald Sensabaugh that much money and an extension
he sucks, anybody watch him last night?
whiffed tackles, common with him
out of place, common with him
mental mistakes, common with him
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
Yeah like maybe recover a fumble. He and Ball should learn how to do that during the off-season....
amongst other things.
disgusting
Sensabaugh has no coordination, he is goofy and doofy
seriously
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Rule #1
Fall on the ball, before you scoop it up, esp a wet ball
by carolinacowboy on Jan 2, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
thats what Ball did..
it happens…sometimes things just don’t go your way.
Newman looked done to me
Sensi was certainly no star, but Newman looked like he had never played football before. bad angles, slow, he just seemed out of it.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
To me...that tackle that he whiffed on that 3rd and 9 play right before the 80 yarder to Cruz...
was the game! If he makes that tackle, the Giants punt from their end zone.
yup
and it was BEAR PASCOE son you got juked out by a man named BEAR
pathetic
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
needed that laugh Chia
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
SON his name is BEAR, he runs like a 4.9 40 and you get juked out by him? sad
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
Not juked...more like jumped over...esp. by a guy with no athletic ability whatsoever.
But hey, I’m sure Newman still has his signing bonus saved from his first contract….so what does he care?
Newman was a human hurdle last night
Hynoski hurdled him too.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
What's really sad it I'd put money he's still
on the team next year. I’ve lost faith that this organization will make the proper personnel moves needed. If anything, I see more contract extentions on players we should cut.
by Road Warrior on Jan 2, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know about that, they cut a lot of people last year and
I expect (need) him to be gone next year… Just doesn’t have it anymore!
well Newman is old we knew he was done
Sensabaugh just got a contract extension and he sucks
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
That means the
cowboys are making the same stupid GM mistakes.
I dont get Sensa being resigned
I guess they thought they would be stuck replacing 2 safties in the offseason if they didnt.
we all thought he was gone last year, if this doesn't seal the deal nothing will
But again, I firmly believe that we should make a human sacrifice of Terrance Newman
He hardly sucks...
Newman was garbage during the second half, he had a pretty good first half but absolutely fell apart in the second.
T New, Human hurdle, unbelievable.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
dude, they had to
there are so many FAs and scrubs on the roster that they can’t replace all of them, so they needed to lock a couple of them up as stopgaps to better players down the road.
They would have had to sign somebody down the line, and a player of Sensi’s caliber would probably cost much more on the open market.
Would I rather have a promising young player in place? Of course. But given the personnel hell currently in place, its a good move.
wouldn't that money been better spend resigning a stop gap like Spencer over Sensa?
enough of the stop gap signings lol. go look at the Patriots, Packers or Saints for a blueprint how to let vet players that don’t stand up to the challenge.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
or more like
“not a bad move”
Sense and Elam weren’t the problems this year. We rarely were beat deep this entire year. Our cb play was bad and our pass rush came mostly from Ware. We were up there with Minnesota in terms of teams with highest % of pass rush coming from one player.
+1,000,000
resigning Sensabaugh was really ignorant & the depth at safety has been a problem for years. i think having CBs that can cover is way more valuable then having a top flight safety but Dallas has neither.
don’t expect this secondary to get that much better through the draft with the safeties on this roster.
its unreal how no other team wanted Sensa or Elam expect Dallas & then on top that resigning part of the problem just goes to show Jerry makes to many knee jerk/ ignorant personnel decisions.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
i bet ball is gona get a three year 15 10 million contract
just because jerry it’s ahead of his time
5 years 22.5 million
With the next 2 guaranteed.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with you Chia
The Sensabaugh extension was the worst GM decision this season.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
They are who we thought they were
8 – 8
This means you are as bad as you are good. It will be another interesting draft.
I’m hoping that Jerry’s statement is a poker players bluff trying to up the trade value of some guys.
"He has a peculiar felicity of expression." John Adams
Haha, no
The players’ real value is evident from their performance on the field. Who else other than Jerry would fall for sweet talking a player?
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Al Davis, but he's dead now so maybe whoever replaces Al Davis will manage personnel equally poorly...
that reminded me now we have the al davis of football
be ready to get some jackass with the 14th pick
What happened to our big
contract players like Doug Free, Miles Austin, Orlando Scandrik and Sensenbaugh??? These guys are locked up for years and played horribly. The cowboys are going to be in salary cap hell for years.
These are decent players signed to reasonable contracts
They are not world beaters by themselves, but they are not paid like it either. The four players you mentioned are hardly on the top of my “needs replaced immediately” list.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
Yep
none of these contracts are bad.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
maybe the contracts arent that bad
but i expected more out of Doug Free and Miles Austin this year.
I don't remember who on the board said it
But, clearly Free is a RT and not a LT. They just needed a year to get T. Smith up to speed. I guess we know why the Cowboys held out a bit to give Free a smaller contract while the collective Cowboys community panicked after the lock-out ended.
I agree with you, disappointed in those two.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
Honestly I am disappointed in Doug Free
I honestly expected him to to Better……
Austin actually had a good year IMO. WHile yes it sucks that he had the Hamstring issues all year, he played in 10 games this year and Avg, 4 rec for 57 yards per game in those games…that works out to 64 rec for 912 yards….which isn’t horrible numbers
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 2, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
He seemed to play better before Murray was injured
I could certainly be wrong here. Free is one of those OT that is better when we can push forward.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
he is a RT
he is just out of place
he will be a dominant RT next year and Tyron will be a good LT
that balances things out
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with Chia wholeheartedly on this one
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
i really hope so.
i thought doug free was pretty good at RT, and last year he played pretty well at LT also, that is why it seems like he regressed this year at LT.
If you watched the game closely
You will see Smith man handle Pierre Paul when Paul lined up against him last night…totally agree he will dominate at LT
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think the team's a lot closer than their record suggests
Several games were totally winable, and they were really only outclassed for eight quarters the entire season. Free at RT, a healthy Miles, Dez, and Murray bring back Robinson and Fiametta draft DeCastro and make some savvy picks later in the year. Get Bruce Carter at ILB over James and Brooking. You’ll see some improvement.
DeCastro is nice
I want to see us draft defense….I think Melvin Ingram is play maker
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Miles Has Regressed A Bit
sort of butter fingers at time, and he has not put up the big plays
Technically no,
but the regression of these players is alarming.
by Road Warrior on Jan 2, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Miles is a decent player
signed to an elite player’s contract.
45 catches on the year, two drops on the same drive last night.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Big contract players...
Doug Free should be moved to the right side, Miles needs to stay healthy, Scandrick and Sensabaugh, well, they are what they are, average at best.
Do you think that
the coaches are really going to make Scandrik the starter next year????
Yes, they will try it again...
He will be the first choice to replace Newman. Not saying it is right, just what it is…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Good Article
Just two or three days too late.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
I'm impressed
That we were able to get to 8-8. Considering the numerous deficiencies we had throughout the team and the injuries, I would say that we squeezed everything we could have out of this season. Kudos to Garrett and Ryan. I can only imagine how much better we will be with a little more talent and the continuous evolution from the coaches.
by D_Carter on Jan 2, 2012 9:45 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
As long as the Boys are JJ's personal Fantasy team,
this is what we’ll get . I don’t see how it changes anytime soon.
THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO WIN.
The defense sucks anyway
Why not look for a trade for Ware and accelerate the rebuilding process?
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:48 AM CST reply actions
At this point, tough to disagree....
but not sure what you’d get for him. Then again, I could never see Jerry doing it.
by Road Warrior on Jan 2, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Sheer lunacy.
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
i would be afraid
that Jerry would screw up by picking horrible players with the picks we got for Ware.
Jerry's ego has burned this franchise so badly...
…for a long time now.
He’s like the George Lucas of football… Determined to ruin a once proud franchise. All because the guy cannot embrace a little id and let someone more qualified run the football operations.
The NFC East has won 11 Super Bowls; oddly none of those have come courtesy of the Eagles.
by gee-roj on Jan 2, 2012 9:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions 7 recs
Yup, and rec'd
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Well...
He created that proud franchise. It took pure balls in order to put the pieces together to build the 90s dynasty. Look at what happened to the 49ers after their dynasty? They had a top ten QB all time to take over after Montana and they still only managed one Super Bowl despite keeping most of the pieces in tact. The Pats haven’t won since they lost Ty Law, Rodney Harrison, Mike Vrabel, Bruschi, or Willie McGinest not to mention two great coordinators. Maybe they’ll win this year. What do you think will happen to the Saints when Brees leaves? Where would the Packers be if teams weren’t obsessed with non-pro style offense QBs or Rodgers didn’t have the “Tedford QB” label? Look, I’m not saying the Cowboys have made just as good of decisions as those two franchises, but pretty much every great team you see ran into a quite a bit of luck along the way. Dynasties usually run into a LOT of luck. Since Jerry took over the team’s won three Super Bowls, still more than anyone in that time frame save for the Pats.
Rebuilding after a dynasty is tough. When the dynasty is fading the urge is to go for broke and get what wins you have left. To me, the biggest mistake he made was not viewing the Michael Irvin injury as the time to start the rebuilding process. Instead he went for broke trying to get one last ring out of Troy and Emmitt. The Galloway trade, LaFluer, several other moves. He should went for a QB to develop and build the next generation of Cowboys around, instead he was trying to milk what was left of his current generation. Then he tried to build a winner as quickly as he could rather than looking for something that would work long term. I think he’s finally started to take the long route. You saw it with him drafting players at positions that aren’t immediate needs like running back and Dez last year. I think Romo’s got about five years left, which he could build a SB team around him in that time frame.
Jerry Got Lucky
with Aikman in the cupboard, and then the Walker trade. This parlayed into the dynasty for the ages. Then after this nothing. And, remember, Jones had such a bounty they he could have rolled that into the future like the Patriots demonstrated, but drunken Jerry had his ego bruised so he fired Jimmy and hired the retarded one from Oklahoma, to prove some stupid point. Jerry Jones has been a disaster personnel wise since the Hershel bounty played out. And, he got rich owning the Cowboys. Give him that but he ran this once proud football operation into the ground. Jerry is a drunken clown.
Oh yeah, Jerry had some luck in the 90s.
Sure the hasn’t made a move better than the Hershel Walker trade, but who has? He made no good personel moves since then, really? Tyron Smith wasn’t a good move? Tony Romo? DeMarcus Ware? Nothing? C’mon man. He fired Jimmy and hired Switzer, yeah that was dumb. Isray just fired Bill Polian, everyone makes bad moves. The Cowboys losing the key 90s cogs is tantamount to the Pats losing Belichick and Brady. He ran this team into the ground? What? They’re the most valuable franchise in the NFL and among the most valuable in sports. They were one game away from making the playoffs this year and lost their franchise QB last year. Hell if having a bad year just because you lose your franchise QB makes a terrible organization what do you call the Colts?
I think the whole "loser mentality" argument is as delusional as Jerry is/was about
the quality of this team. It’s just another way of saying we have all sorts of talent, but they just don’t know how to win. Uh, no. This team is overrated in the talent department and blaming “leadership” or “losers-who-give-up” or whatever is just glossing over the problems. I hope Jerry is being more realistic than some folks here are.
but really, there arent too many leaders
I saw really none last night
nobody stepped up besides Romo Dez and Ratliff emotionally
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
we cant really say that
we aren’t on the sidelines or in the locker room
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
what about on the field
the Giants looked fired up, their guys looked to be fired up and emotional
they showed our sidelines……………..crickets
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
yeah whatever
everyone else knows this, we lack leaders
listen to the outsiders of this team
heck listen to the GREATS that played here, they all say the same thing
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
Seriously? "Everyone else who knows" are the same people who keep
talking about how talented this team is. Dilfer said it best; he was dazzled by the talent this team DOES have and ignored the giant holes it also has. As for the greats, Emmitt should shut his pie hole. I remember when he was getting criticized for being lazy in the weight room. People talk too much in general when they’re not the ones on the field.
Leadership is not going to help a team that has such limited talent
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I never saw that emotion when we were up 12 against them a few weeks ago
I saw high fives and smiles
not raw fire like the Giants had
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
I thought the D was pretty pumped for this game
they still didn’t play great but I thought the fire was there. Jenkins had the swag thing going and scandrick was notably pissed off.
How do you know? I don't think the Cowboys looked flat. They looked like they got
they didnt look flat?
look at how they started that game
wake up
they got flat out dominated 21-0
I would say that is, coming out flat
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
You think they'd have won if they had looked fired up? Brooking gave his pep
you dont understand this obviously so I give up, yeah we are loaded with leaders, yup
but everyone else does
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
and your wrong, big time
if it was something I could understand, I would get it
but you are totally wrong
suck it up
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
no not at all
its just so absurd to me i cannot believe you actually believe what you are saying
if you want to believe that, so be it
cool
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, I saw your "delusional" comment below. Back at ya.
I’m not the one arguing that this D would have been good if they had just made fierce faces.
I wasn't talking about you, but that is flattering
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Fernie
you know me well enough to know that if I was calling you delusional, I would say it to your face, well in a reply anyway
I wasnt talking about you down there
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
I keep it real
if I wanted to say something like to someone, I wouldnt do it behind their back like that
I am not that sleezy
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
I was talking about the people who are blaming Romo for our failures
besides two games, the guy played at an extremely high level
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Well, we agree on that, but I've realized that it's inevitable.
You’re always going to get the folks who need to find a scapegoat to blame every loss on, and with the Cowboys, it’s going to be the QB. Broken ribs, hand the size of a melon, a D and an O line like a sieve, and it’s still all the QB’s fault.
by Fernie67 on Jan 2, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Romo had a lot of ups and downs
I feel bad for him because the guy is obviously tough, he obviously came back and tried to win this game
if we had 20 more Romo’s and more Romo’s on defense, we might have something
when you look at his hand, it amazed me how he was even throwing the ball
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
BTW, did you see the article I posted last night? He
said he did take a numbing shot before the game.
conflicting reports
Cowboys told NBC he didnt take one, then its reported he took one
I am never believing Dallas about injuries ever again
they lied all week about that hand
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
But did they lie? I didn't see all the reports,
but Austin and Witten said he was fine and good to go. They never said it was healed. Romo himself hedged when asked and just said it was getting better each day, which it probably was compared to how it felt the day after the game. He said he would play, which he did. Don’t all teams downplay injuries to keep the other team guessing?
to me it sounded like they lied
they made the WR’s say he was fine etc
I am just never believing another report out of Valley Ranch
I am tired of being made into a fool
same with the whole our D is awesome in the preseason stuff
I bought into it and look like a moron
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
all teams do this.
The Colts did it with Peyton and looked foolish after he was found to be injured and couldn’t play this year.
"Deion never played quarterback in the National Football League, so his comments are based off the other side of the ball. If you play my position and criticism can really affect you and hurt you and make you play differently, then you’re only gonna be around for so long anyway. The whole objective is to keep getting better. Keep finding ways to improve, and if your talented enough and good enough, you will lead your team to the Super Bowl. That will happen around here, it will."
by willyoubemycharizard on Jan 2, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
The D was quite a bit better...
They were 27th in defensive DVOA last year and 16th this year. I’d say that’s a pretty big improvement. Imagine what would happen if they had a good cornerback instead of Newman?
Better yet having more talent throughout
the defensive unit
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
kinda the way fans did Wade last season
only to see him take the worst defense in the NFL & change them into game changers this season.
i think fans seen what 2 of the best DCs in the NFL could do with the talent Dallas has on defense.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
+1
i’m not a huge Romo fan like i was with Roger, White or Aikman but enough with the bashing at Romo.
the guy has kept in way more games then he “lost” for this team.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Yeah I couldn't believe that in a game like that they laid an egg in the first half.
It was like ‘08 all over again. Don’t know what got into them the second half. But to show up for a do or die game like that…unconscionable!!!
2008
thats what I said would happen, too bad I was right
Romo made it closer, that game was never close though
it was 21-14 at one point but it felt like 121-14
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
The Romo for MVP show should be going hardcore.
Without him, we probably win 2-4 games this year.
Lilly, Hayes, Staubach, Waters, Dorsett, Bates, Novacek, Emmitt, Woodson, Ware, Witten, Lee. The Legacy lives on.
by wtshaolin on Jan 2, 2012 10:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
if he won that game, he should have gotten MVP
31 TD’s to 10 INT’s is amazing
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
which 2 games would this team have won?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
i might give you the Rams but i doubt this team beats the Seahawks without Romo
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
it was 21-14 and we had all the momentum
if somebody defends that freakin bomb to cruz, we get the ball back down 7 having 4 solid drives in a row and that stadium is SILENT.
Sorry Chia, gotta disagree with you. This game was competitive. WE took a while to quell the crowd, but we were in pretty good position with 10 minutes left in the 4th.
Simply put, Victor Cruz beat us yesterday. One big td, and the bomb to reverse momentum. He was the entire difference in the game
really not that bad...
The Giants had one big play (we’ve only let up a few this season) where Cruz beat Newman to the corner and nobody catches Victor Cruz in this league apparently.
Offensively, the ol played poorly early, and Romo didn’t look too confident. That happens in these types of road games – Romo and the O calmed down and got moving. The failed drive before the end of the half was a killer though.
the same thing happened in Dallas and the first Philly game
but our problem is just that we don’t care right?
We were hammered in the divisional games against the Eagles and Giants. Hammered. Consistently. How does that not scream “TALENT DEFICIT”?
This is worrying
Both those teams look like they are well-equipped to beat the Boys, while the Cowboys don’t look like the ammo to keep up. Considering that those are 4 games, a qtr-season, this is a very worrying observation.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
we were lucky this year that Philly tanked
1-3 against those 3 will not cut it.
can’t we wait until Rob Ryan has a whole offseason to install his defense before we say there’s a talent problem. I find all the doomsaying annoying.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 2, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
wait a minute
so you are saying that there the players are good?
you have had the opposite view ever since last year
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 2, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Fan you cease to amaze me it
But to hear you say this leaves alot of hope for this defense with me cause your one of the biggest stat knackers for this defense. But I do agree we have major needs and do feel like our first 3 rounds and maybe chigbo in the 7th will turn this defense around totally.
by Sado44 on Jan 2, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
search BTB for ‘doomsayer’ …
then you’ll get it
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Jan 2, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
its hard to see Newman improving
and Jenkins was out or playing hurt this year.
But I can’t personally see how hes going to get too much more out of this D. Ware and Ratliff will be a year older. MAYBE Bruce Carter would make an impact. Lissemore may improve some. Jenkins may be healthier.
I highly doubt the defense will look all out of sorts next year with a full offseason – while we didn’t let up any big plays, there were ~5 plays a game where we didn’t seem to know how to line up.
The thing that may help our pass D the most in this division is Desean Jackson likely leaving it.
And you're just as delusional if you think that they're a long ways away from being competitive or that the team DOESN'T need better leadership
Look, as I see it the biggest problem was Newman. Last night was totally on him, he got burned every play and was responsible for several huge drives by the Giants. Yes, Victor Cruz is good, but he’s not that good. A lot of the optimists here recognize that they need better players, I think the disagreement is the amount of better players that they need.
Besides, the team has the 14th pick in the draft and the 46th in the second round. They have several opportunities to improve this team just in the draft alone. There’s also free agency, Cortland Finnegan will be a free agent and imagine if he replaced Newman? That changes things quite a bit. Calais Campbell might hit free agency and he’s instantly improve the DL and pass rush. They could basically sign the two of those players and you could put a bow on the defense. Campbell on Butler’s side would make up for Spencer’s ability to cover the run and you’d clearly see an improved pass rush. The 14th pick should get the team David DeCastro and you’d be replacing an average-ish guard with a pro-bowl quality guard. Yet another improvement, move Free back to RT where we should see improved play and Tyron Smith to LT where he will continue his dominance and that’s more improvement. Not to mention a healthy Murray, Austin, and Bryant. Lastly, I also think that Bruce Carter after being in the system for a full year will show a large amount of improvement over Bradie and Brooking.
I also think the leadership at the top needs to improve. I think this team needs an offensive coordinator. This team has historically been grotesquely undisciplined the past ten years or so and getting them ready to play on Sundays is a full time job. I’m not sure why any head coach would take on both a coordinator’s position and the head coaching duties. I think Garrett’s the right guy to have at the helm, but I think if you give him some help like a Todd Haley that you’d see him improve as a HC and you’d also see the play calling improved.
No one here’s saying (well at least Chia and I aren’t) that you can go to war with the same team they fielded in 2011 and they’d win the Super Bowl. Yes, health was a problem, but improvements need to be made. Keep Fiametta and Robinson, combine that with a good draft and some good free agency signings I think this team’s a Super Bowl favorite.
by Omar Little on Jan 2, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Right on Omar.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said they are a long way away from being
competitive. I don’t know how far they are. I do know that there are gaping holes on this team, and I know that the talent level was overrated by too many commentators and fans (and Jerry). All I heard all season was that this team was loaded with talent, and that they were a contender. My response was that people saying that were overrating the talent, and they were. This team has a very talented core, and then the talent drops off drastically. The biggest drop off is on the O line and the D. Do I think a few good moves could drastically improve the competitive abilities of this team? Yes. Let’s see how astute Jerry and JG are in the off season.
As for the leadership issue, read the thread before you comment. I’m talking about the players, not the coaches. Some folks are complaining that the Cowboys lost because the team came out flat and weren’t fired up. My argument is that that is not true. I don’t think the team was flat or unmotivated; I believe they lost because they got beat.
Alrighty...
They are loaded with talent, but they also have quite a bit of dead weight on the team. When you have a sieve at cornerback, injuries to key players at skill positions, and a QB that played several games with serious injuries that tends to decrease the talent. I don’t think the talent was overrated, I think the deadweight was underrated. Romo, Tron, Lee, Ware, Austin, Bryant, Witten, Ratliff, and now Murray…that’s not some serious talent?
The problem is that there’s players like Newman who got destroyed on every single play in the second half. You can blame both losses to the Giants on Newman quite easily, IMO. Probably some other losses too. The OL’s better than what they get credit for, they’re just not elite like New England’s or New Orleans’, but I agree that’s where they should put their resources, they have the 14th pick in the first round, and if DeCastro is there they should take him. Instant improvement, safe pick, total rock at the position, and great upside. The defense was about average according to the advanced stats. They were better than Green Bay’s, New England’s, and New Orleans’, they just didn’t have the offense that those teams had. Part of that’s the lack of healthy receivers and a running game, and part of it’s the interior line. I think if you switch Free and Smith and draft DeCastro you’ll see some big improvements. I think you can say the same for the defense once Carter gets in there and they hire an actual cornerback to do Newman’s job.
As to the player leadership issue, yeah I don’t think it helped. Spencer looked completely unmotivated and lazier than his usual self. He came out completely flat and did nothing in the first quarter. That was easily the worst quarter of football I’ve ever seen from him. He certainly didn’t help that situation. Free looked quite terrible in the first quarter too, but since he’s actually delivered high quality play in the past I’m willing to excuse a bad year where he was out of place. After the first quarter they were down 14-0 and that pretty much sealed the deal. I don’t think either Spencer or Free were as bad as they showed that quarter, if either of those guys showed some fire the Giants don’t get a key first down and Romo doesn’t take that terrible sack.
The core group of players including Garrett have suffered some gut wrenching losses
over the last 5 years. Emmitt is correct, this is not a mentally tough team, with the exception of Witten. They need a talent infusion, but they also need some veteran players who can step up when it counts, players who have a little more of nasty streak.
Romo played with a hand the size of a softball, broken ribs, and a collapsed lung. He's nails.
Ware too. Speaking of Nasty streaks, that’s why they need DeCastro.
I am waiting for the "tweakers"
You know. That collection of fans who year in and year out tell us we need to do a few tweaks here and there and then we’ll be a contender.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
I am afraid that Jerry is one of them
But yeah, your right.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
Another season like this
and I may start tweaking meth
You know, we were not that far away after 2007
With Romo, this team could have easily just kept tweaking to be a perennial contender. Instead, Jerry panicked and we ended up with Roy Williams and a horrible 2009 draft.
Here we are today…
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
No question
That for all his mistakes, Bill Parcells left a contender, hence the 2007 roster. We needed to get better on the O-line and Secondary. Instead, we threw high draft value at WRs.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
Just proves that noone in the FO has any idea what it takes to build a successful roster
Parcells whiffed as much as he put it into play, but he knew what he wanted to do at least
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
I mean that its, right.
You can make mistakes. There is room for error. But you have to have a clear vision going forward.
BP was prophetic when he said in 2 or 3 years you would never know I was here.
Jerry never really believed in what BP was trying to build. As the years go by, I believe more and more that BPs hire was a PR move.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
Here is Jerry Jones' vision for the Cowboys
Wide Receivers
Might as well hire Matt Millen
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Hire Matt Milen
. . . . . ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill said that...
because in retrospect he knew how stupid it was to draft Spears and not Rodgers…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
and on his way outta Valley Ranch, Parcells
said something to the effect of “everything I’ve built here will be gone in two years.”
And he was right…
Exactly how was he right?
He didn’t fix the OL, he drafted overrated defensive players, and ran way too conservative of an offense. Yeah, Ware, Witten, Newman, and Romo were awesome things that he did for the team, they’re still here. Remember when he passed up Steven Jackson for Julius Jones? Barbie and Spears? Kevin Burnett? Draws on 3rd and long EVERY DAMN TIME!?!!?!?!? Please, I’m glad that trash is gone.
Its been said a million times
but its worth repeating. Parcells wanted Spears at #11 and not Ware. He was overruled by Jerry.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Yeah Parcells did some good things for the team...
But he’s easily the most overrated person in Cowboys history, and Jerry’s pretty damn underrated if you ask me. Yes he makes mistakes, but stop acting like he’s Dan Snyder or whoever has been running the Eagles.
Jerry The GM
. . . is right on par with Danny Snyder; says it all, does it not?
We are all tweakers.
The thing is I don’t think our 8-8 record is a lie or hiding anything on this team. So a few tweaks here and there on defense ( I call tweaks as in 4-5 new players atleast 3 full time starters) and maybe a small tweak to our oline and we are maybe 2-3 more wins next year does that not make us possibly a playoff team.team,,
by Sado44 on Jan 2, 2012 11:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
How do you define "tweaks"
Would you say that replacing Newman with an actually good CB is a tweak? Would you say that adding David DeCastro is a “tweak?” Would you say a full season with a healthy Dez and Austin are tweaks? I’d say those are all pretty big moves. There are a few tweaks they can make to improve the team. Free to RT and Tron to LT, swap out Carter with Brooking and Bradie, and get a better returner on special teams. However, I don’t think anyone thinks that’s enough to make a huge difference.
which one of is really crazy ...
This site might as well be PR for Jason Garrett much like the rest of the media (save Skip Bayless) covering the Cowboys. This the same core and talent level that Wade Phillips won a division title with. Dallas had so many chances to win the division and make the playoffs but instead y’all are begging to rebuild and draft the next Bobby Carpenter. And for proof that Dallas needs to start over you link to someone else with the same ideas who points out that a good chunk of Dallas’ roster can be purged. Yes, Keith Brooking and Jon Kitna and one-year cheap rental safeties like Abram Elam can be dumped. We knew that at the start of the year and did nothing. Instead we invented bigger problems like starting over at offensive line and questioning Tony Romo’s character. The only consolation I get from this season is that it’s the last I’ll have to watch of Terrence Newman.
by strokes on Jan 2, 2012 9:50 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's time to fire up
the fire Jerry the GM website and stop supporting this team until a change is made. As long as 90K are showing up each week and selling out the palace called Jerry’s World and we buy the jersey’s etc nothing will change….hit him in his pocket and the changes will start. Jerry is about making money, not winning football games.
Never happen
But you can start it up and see how many follow.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
totally agree
it will never happen and Jerry knows this much….so he will keep doing what he is his doing with no repercussions…….more average seasons to follow
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
the worst is our home field advantage
THERE IS NONE
OUR STADIUM IS NEVER LOUD, DID YOU SEE AND HEAR GIANTS STADIUM LAST NIGHT?
we never get that at home, never
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
A stadium built by a business man, not a football man
I have not idea how a 95,000 seat stadium can be that quiet.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
Texas Stadium was the same way. The problem is not the stadium, the problem lay with the home town fans
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I would love to show you the finer points to a muay thai clinch whipped knee to the face seanrude
by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
I read an awesome tweet last night
Something like: “I just watched an episode of hoarders. A guy spent millions on his house and filled it with crap. Oh, wait, that was Cowboys Stadium.”
The art is pretty good...
Gene did a better job of picking artists than Jerry has done of picking players…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
i say bust out a huge sign in front of Jerry's home w/bells and whistles and flashing lights.......
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
resign as GM .....Jerry
or WE the PEOPLE will strike ! muwahahahaaa
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Oh great, the OWS mentality. lol
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Very fitting pic tan,
we played like midgets out there, mentally and physically.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 2, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
ouch!
Hope there’s no little people on the site.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
no offence meant to the little people. : )
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 2, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Fans Still Asleep Though
Too many still believe that a Tony Romo who missed a wide open Dez for a TD to start the game, who threw a critical late INT when the team was rallying, who missed a wide open Miles to seal the deal a couple weeks ago, who couldn’t finish aganst ‘Zona. who through 2 critical pick 6s in the Detroit Debacle, who fumbled on the goal line against the equally mediocre Jets is the answer to our QB needs. Wake Up People. No doubt that Tony has some incredible skills. The problem is that he goes utterly and completely stupid at critical times. I don’t care how good he looks 75% of the time. It’s the 25% of the time that he flails and costs us games that matters.
his hand was messed up man
if he is healthy he makes that throw and we go up 7-0
Dez was wide open, great release off the line
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
And I Suppose
His hand was messed up when he missed Miles, tossed 2 pick 6s against Detroit, and fumbled against the Jets. OK.
Guys...
Romo is a top 10 quarterback. He lost 2 games for us single-handedly, but there’s no way you can blame yesterday. That being said, he is fallible, which Terry can’t admit. He missed Dez in the 1st, and his interception shouldn’t have been thrown, but besides that he was amazing. Aaron Rogers would have lost yesterday with that offensive line
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Jan 2, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
wrong, I've never, ever maintained Romo is perfect
Then again, neither is Rodgers, Brees or Brady.
In Romo we Trust
Here's A Clue
In 6 Years as the Dallas Cowboys starting QB, his record in the playoffs is 1-3… 1-3 for crying out loud. Joe Flacco won twice as many as a ROOKIE. Roethlisberger has been a started for 2 years longer. Has he won any playoffs? Eli…another guy from 04. Rodgers? Kurt Warner didn’t have the “skills” of Tony, but he took the Cards to the playoffs 2 straight years. An OLD Brett with the Vikings… Howzabout a couple of no-names: David Garrard; Matt Hasselbeck… Jeebus, the Texans could have a 3rd String rookie with as many playoff wins as Romo by the end of this week…
are you really this stupid Jim??
QBs don’t play defense and they don’t win or lose games, what about that concept don’t you get??
In Romo we Trust
Terry
calling someone stupid is rude. Is that where you want to take the discussion?
I know you won’t apologize, but check yourself, please.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Jim you are not stupid
Terry and the other Romo apologists call you names when you bring up facts. Romo is a good fantasy football QB. He has not produced in crunch time. These are facts and now, Romo’s apologists, the keyboard badasses here can call me names too. Look, I like Romo. He is certainly not the main problem with the Cowboys, but the monkey on his back grows larger and larger every time he loses a big game.
No, you're stupid for using the label "Romo apologists." Funny
how you call people names, keyboard badass.
Who else are the 'good FF QB's'
that don’t produce in crunch time?
P Manning with his 9-10 career playoff record, M Vick with his 2-3 or P Rivers and his 3-4?
How about Marino at 8-10, Fouts at 3-4 or Elway up until the mid-90’s?
Just trying to get a handle on this definatition or does it apply strictly to Romo?
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
LOL
Your siggie tells me all I need to know about your mentality. Comparing Romo to God is exactly what I would expect from one who absolutely ignores his shortcomings. I never said he wasn’t talented. I believe he doesn’t have the smarts to make the decisions required to win the important games. He makes plays that leave me stunned in their athleticism. Then he throws an interception, fumbles the ball or fails to hit a wide open receiver. He is NOT a winner. Were he a winner, this team would be 11-5 and in the playoffs. Romo is what, 31 years old… He shouldn’t be making the absolutely idiotic mistakes he makes time after time after time, etc. That’s all.
jim...... IT IS NOT.........Romo isa to blame.....
it is and has been this piss poor defense……. PLAYOFFS ! playoffs would be assured if not for this defense. don’t use Romo as an excuse, we are all angry at what we have seen this year, but MANY are to blame in this org for it.
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
there you are, get him Terry!
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Your logic fails if you would stop to realize that without Romo, we are not even in these games
that you say he single-handedly lost. He cannot do it all by himself, which so often he has had to try to do. At the beginning of the year we had absolutely no running game, then along comes Murray and look how much better Romo did. Then as the cracks began to appear in our defense in the 2nd half and we gave up big leads i.e. 21-0, again it was back to putting it all on Romo.
Super Bowl teams are not built on one player! Give Romo some protection, a decent running game and a defense that does not give up critical 3rd downs over and over again, and this team could go far with Romo at the helm. Unfortunately, we’ve got a lot of work to fix all of those issues!
Did the D
Throw 2 pick 6s against the Lions?
Did Romo fail to make one stop against the Pats?
Or one stop in the 1st Giants game?
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
Cowboys fans, most of them, DELUSIONAL
and I am seeing it again
sad
wake up
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:01 AM CST reply actions
What are we delusional about?
Pray tell
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
pray?
hail mary, full of grace
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
even praying won't help newman or ball(S) up in coverage.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
yeah I prayed enough for them
may some other poor fan inherit them
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I have woken up Chia,
it’s going to take a reality check from the owner and coaches.
too many players on the roster that are’nt fit to wear the Cowboys jersey.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
yessir
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
No more than fans of other teams
In fact, probably less so
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
I doubt that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Try living near a lot of Pittsburgh fans...sheesh
What is it with Penn teams anyway?
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
Hello.....calling Terry!!
Average!! whether people wanted to belive it or not we were exactly that. I dont see it improving next year either. We need two solid drafts and clearing of some dead weight before we are contenders again. Sucks, buts thats the truth..
I know, isn't it sad to see, these so called 'fans' that are just relishing that we were
mediocre! As fan, have some hope why don’t you. Man, we were damn close to easily being in the playoffs, and we contended with some top teams (Patriots, Lions) and we beat the 2nd Seed in the NFC (49ers). Yes, in the end we didn’t and we ended at a mediocre 8-8 and it is what it is, but what is wrong with having some hope as a fan of the team. It’s not at all out of the realm of possibility as a few bounces of the ball here or there could have totally turned the season around in the other direction. Think positively as a fan!
Your sadly mistaken
I want to win just as bad as everyone else, but some of you needed to take the blinders off and see what this team really was and thats just plain average. This team didnt deserve to be in the playoffs and were just lucky to have a chance yesterday. The talent of this team is overrated, there coaching is piss poor and the decision making from top to bottom is just as bad. Im a JG guy but he cost this team some games this year. This team is in rebuilding mode, its just too bad that players like Ware and Witten will be old as hell before this team goes anywhere.
What do you guys think the market value would be for Dez, Witten, or Austin?
Im being serious here. I think we have to consider all avenues when thinking of obtaining the resources to overhaul this defense. The offense could survive without one or even two of those weapons. If it meant we could have one of those drafts where you pick 5 times in the top 75 it would be worth it.
You have to trust your player development though. You’ve gotta be confident that a Dwayne Harris, Raymond Radway, or Andre Holmes can be a serviceable #3 WR. And that you could get someone who could back up John Phillips at TE assuming Martellus is gone. You also have to trust that the team can get this offensive line to a level where we can lean on the running game a bit more.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions
They have more value to us than other teams...
They work in our system and we should keep them. Maybe we should just add better players and not get rid of players that help us win.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Carl, the offense is the engine of the team
None of those guys are expendable when the line is so bad. They are more valuable to us.
Cowboys should take a long hard look at trading Ware. He offers the most bang for buck.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
the problem is this
you trade Ware, you lose 50 percent of your sack total
that is extremely hard to replace
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
This is what I've been saying
Look at this team and tell me, who has any trade value other than Ware. Are there any teams out there salivating over Dez bringing them to the promise land. How about Austen?Witten, nope. Sean Lee would be the only other person with value.
Package Dez and Ware and you open a lot of possibilities.
Never gonna happen
as long as Jerry can rake in 4 Sunday Night $$$$$$ games with players whose name value far exceeds their real value. This part of the process he does very well.
by Road Warrior on Jan 2, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
BINGO
that is how Jerry builds this team….based on how much money he can make…not winning championships
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
just like chasing Nnamdi over J.Joesph bc of the $ he brings in with jersey sales, etc.
J.Joesph was cheaper, younger & is a very good cover corner but he didn’t have brand that Jerry wanted to market
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
sometimes brand isnt everything
by lostar2009 on Jan 2, 2012 12:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i know.. ill drive by .....Jerry w/ my paint gun........ muwahahahaaa
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Trading players is not the answer
Although I understand your logic. The issue starts with the culture…..new players will adapt in to the poor culture we have. The culture must change first…
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
yes
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
but what is the "culture"
I agree with you, I just want someone to help me define it
culture?
a winning culture isnt easy to establish
we cant close games, need to start there
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
didn't we spend all offseason talking about the Garrett "culture change"
and then lauding the release of underperforming vets which signaled the beginning of the Garrett era and changing the culture? I personally like the changes Garrett has made, and hopefully over time they will pay off. A winning culture is nice, but if we’re winning games, no one is talking about the culture in the locker room
I'd like to know, too. Different coaches now, same results. Rob Ryan being fired
won’t fix it. He’s all fiery and stuff, the complete opposite of Wade. Wade looks like a genius now, when what he really benefited from was a huge talent infusion on that D. I
Wade got talent
Ryan got two players, thats it
give the man some talent
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
give the man talent before we fire him
because idk who would replace him who is better on the market
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
I was talking about Ryan
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
Wade wasn't ever the problem.
Wade had a bend but dont break defense & in this era of the NFL theres going to be teams that put up yards between the 20 to 20 but the best defenses hold up in the redzone & create turnovers
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Wade couldn't get the turnovers though
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
and that was a personnel problem
he tried to overwhelm the QB but when teams countered adjusted protection and attacking the DB’s one on one he had no counter to that
Lee is the best cover guy on the team
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 2, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Wade was not on the field
And it’s not just a matter of scheme; some players just have the knack. The Cowboys don’t have those types of players
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
right
which is why the scheme didn’t suit the talent.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
thats because he was coaching on sideline & not playing!
Wade didn’t have the personnel to get turnovers but his scheme can create them with the amount of pressure he likes to bring.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
but he should have tweaked the scheme
for the players maybe?
I guess it is all a talent issue though. Sigh.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
what helped wade in houson was......
having a very good front 7 and all he had to do was work on the back end, which he did.
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
how many culture changes do we need???
This team need some hard nose high IQ footballl players that it..
Give this team some gamers back there in the secondary..plzz..
Add in a few leaders on this team. Not some lead by example type guys.. those the guys you hype up to play.
by lostar2009 on Jan 2, 2012 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dez & Austin should fetch more.
As good as Witten is & has been, he is getting older. Personally, I’d trade Dez or Miles in a heartbeat if it meant a high-end draft pick.
Now for those talking about trading Ware…I understand the sentiment, but I think that’s crazy. We already can’t rush the passer. I think Carl is right. If any trades are to be made, it must come from the offensive side of the ball.
trade Ware now before you have no trade value left in him
If we’re up by 30 pts in a meaningless game and want a sack than keep Ware. He’s good for that. When the game is on the line, where we can’t afford an offside and need a sack now, don’t look for Ware.
i agree ... its like what i told someone earlier
Would you rather have one guy bring pressure on one side with 15-20 sacks a season or would you rather have a bookend set of OLB that can net u 10-13 sacks a season each..
Trade Ware and we will have enough draft picks to draft 2 quality OLB
by lostar2009 on Jan 2, 2012 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Madness...
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
hey,, Jerry !...
we wanna trade you for a GM and a pack of juicy fruit
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Thats tough parting with any of them
but I would consider trading Austin and Witten in that scenerio. If we keep Dez and Robinson then we can get another WR. Teams are having success with these big fast TE’s now so I think we could draft one to play along side of Phillips.
You talk like we have Robinson, he's a free agent and he surely raised his value and
will probably need to be overpaid to keep him!
some team will want to pay Robinson as a #1 or 2 ........
almost suredly dallas will have to pay much more cause they didnt use common sense and sign him to a 2 year deal w/ option on 2nd year.
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Like JJ has a crystal ball to know that a guy who couldnt stick with the Rams or make
the Chargers final roster would have a break out season after being picked up off the street.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Common sense ?
First, he got hurt as soon as he got here, then released. Sign him then?
Second, as a 4 year vested player DAL could not sign during the season, he had to go into FA.
I am all for blaming Jerry for the things he did wrong, but would just as soon have a fact-based discussion in the process
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
If we get a 1st + something else for Austin, I take it and run
maybe same with Witten too, though its harder to trade a HOF player.
let me revise that
if we just get offered a first for Austin, I highly consider it. That 2009 season sure looks like a fluke. Even this year, when he got healthy, Robinson was still Romo’s #1.
I'd strong consider it too
But you have to look at it like the Giants do. Cruz is getting all the love this season, but Nicks draws a ton of coverage from opposing teams because they know how good he is.
#demarcusvstheworld
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
absolutely
Miles is an injury machine and he fights the ball at times. Two drops in a critical drive yesterday, 45 catches on the year.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
I think your off abit here
Now when your talking about a major overhaul yes make trades to get kicks and talent but. Our base is here on the defense the guys who make the defense serviceable are already here. Carter should start next year ware Ratliff lee Jenkins scandrik sensy these guys are on the roster and not going to vet replaced wither you feel its needed or not. Reality is there are our defense. So that’s 4 starters needed the defensive line has good depth with our starters now just need the upgrade of those guys now. So trading ware Romo Austin any te Dez just means you have more holes to feel. The draft and the fa should fix this team if its done with wisdom and precision.
by Sado44 on Jan 2, 2012 12:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
culture of choking over the past years, how many gamers do we really have on this team
i would say Witten is the biggest gamer we have
Witten, Murray, Austin, Robinson, Ware, Ratliff, Lee and maybe Scandrik.
It’s hard to say how good the secondary is, when most played through injuries this season. Romo should probably be on there too. He played well for most of the season, even when injured. How many people reading this would even show up at a desk job with broken ribs?
cowboys.xanadu-fx.com
Or a hand thats numb, or a punctured lung
I know I would be home.
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by willyoubemycharizard on Jan 2, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Austin is not a gamer
misses half the year, two drops yesterday on the same drive.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Since Romo had his best statiscal year and carried the team, I'd say we should definitely include him!
For those that say he lost those games single-handedly, go back and look and tell me how we would have even contended in those games in the first place without Romo.
I think that we are mentally tough as a team...
We just had a serious flaw that teams exposed. Our defense sucked. It is what is it. We could only cover it up so much. This makes the draft in my opinion easy. We now know what we have to fix.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
it should be easy
problem is, if DeCastro is there, he is hard to pass up on
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Not really Chia. If JG feels that his young guys will come back stronger and wiser
next season or if we pick up someone in FA then passing on Decastro isnt that hard to do
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
its hard to do because he may be the BPA on the board
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
That may be so but there are bigger fish to fry on the other side of the ball for us
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
trust me I know
but G is a problem too
a dominant G would do ALOT for the OL
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Im going to be very interested to see how Nagy comes back after his injury
and after getting time with Woicik. The same can be said if we bring Holland back as well now that he understands what it takes to play for JG.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
I think a real offseason
will do Nagy well
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
And Kowalski
Arkin is a project at this point
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
I like Kowlaski at C rather than G but thats just me.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Culture...
is make money…..it is a business….IMO……I do not see enough players playing for the love of the game like we see other teams doing…….we have some…but overall it is about the bottom line to this franchise not the wins and loses…they say the right things to the media but it is a bout the brand and making money….that is just my opinion….it is a business first not a football franchise first
disagree!
Just because we have an owner who markets his team well doesn’t mean that we don’t want to win. We all trash on Jerry a bit because occasionally he makes boneheaded moves, but I don’t think there’s anyone that doubts that he wants to win. Our owner is far from perfect, but I like and respect the fact that he always wants to win, and will do whatever he feels he has to to win (yes, even when that action may not prove to be all we thought it would be)
Agree!
Finally, someone who thinks like me! Yeah, Jerry at time talks out of his wazoo…but, Hey …It’s like a proud father talking about his kids. The real problem is the player’s themselves.
If Jerry really wanted to win, he would hire a real GM.
Open your eyes people. This is just a real life fantasy team for Jerry.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
Everyone talks about changing culture
but how do you do that? What can occur that changes a “culture”?
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:12 AM CST reply actions
It will never happen
but start with the front office….get a real GM and let football people run the team….not a business man. In my years in business I have had equity firms come in and screw up companies because they focus on the bottom line only….
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Getting a G.M. is not going to change anything...
Just because you get a G.M. doesn’t mean your automatically going to win a championship.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
The GM
was not to win championships…..it gets football people in the decision makers seats who know talent…etc…..that will lead to success on the field. Not try and bring in the flashy guy who will sell tickets and jersey’s
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
He does have those people..
They are called scouts and coaches.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
And then Jerry overrules them.
"I hope you have a big trunk, 'cuz I'm putting my bike in it."
"History is history. Cowboys have a rich history and the Eagles suck." - DIRE WOLF
I think Garrett's approach this year changed a lot of the culture
but there was such a bad culture in place with Wade, its going to take time
also getting smart players helps, we have a lot of dumb players and I am serious when I say that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Agree with you
on the lack of mental capacity of many of the players
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Sensabaugh dumb, Ball dumb, Scandrick to some degree, dumb, Spencer dumb
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
I think Garrett is trying
to change the culture back to football and winning…..the problem is the old guy in the owners suite will prohibit the change…again my opinion,
Again...your wrong.
You want to talk about a losing personality? Look at the Bengals. They have an owner that doesn’t care.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Look at how he got out of the way
and let Marvin Lewis run the team….now look at them
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Also
Mike Brown does not show up on the sidelines and tell Marvin what to do…
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he stands in his box and tells him what to do...
No different.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Did he tell Lewis to draft Dalton and AJ Green and trade Carson to...
Oakland for two No. 1 picks? Because if he did he would be a better owner (qua GM) than Jerry.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
Just a suggestion
But those of you suggesting we trade anyone with the last name Romo, Ware, Austin, or Witten, spend a few days away from this site or reading about football altogether. We’re all pretty upset about the season but let’s not get crazy.
I really dont think Austin or Witten are indespensable.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Romo and maybe Ware are untouchable.
Id even sell off Ware if a crackhead deal came around.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
It's not about who is indespensible
They simply have more value to the Cowboys than another team would be willing to give up for them. Guys like that are hard to replace and the draft is a crap shoot when it is going well.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
Why Witten? Besides sentimental value.
I dont get attached like that. Even when Emmitt got cut I forgot about him in a week.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Carl
Who do you replace him with? You think a bunch of Wittens are just hanging around, waiting to be signed or drafted?
by SuperBowl2012 on Jan 2, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
I just dont think we need a "Witten."
I think if we had a consistent running game to balance things out, we’d be fine with just having a “John Phillips.” Where has this glutton of perimeter talent gotten us over the years? We’ve had Witten, and T.O. and Austin, and Terry Glenn, and Dez.
We dont have to have a top 5 TE in the league to be successful. I’d rather have another good corner, or pass rusher, or dominant guard. Id rather dump him a couple years too early than a year too late. Thats how all the model franchises do business isnt it?
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
As many good TE's as there are in the league at the moment, what would be gained by giving up 82?
Teams can get Jimmy Freaking Graham in the 3rd round or Gronkowski or Hernandez with the Pats in the 2nd. Why would any team gives us a good pick or players for JW. He means more to this franchise than any other.
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
wrong, Witten is Romo's security blanket
As long as #9 in under center, gotta have the future HOF TE in the lineup
In Romo we Trust
Agreed.
In fact Witten has been the key to this offense for a decade, regardless of who the QB was. Even last night things finally started clicking once they started getting the ball to him.
Meh
If you trade Witten, then you’d just change the offense. He’s a top 10 TE, a multi-dimensional talent, but he’s not irreplaceable. No one is irreplaceable. If you trade him, you shift the calculus of your offensive strategy, that’s all.
You’d never find a trade partner who’d provide the equivalent value of what Witten is to the Cowboys, but if you could find equivalent value +, then you certainly make the exchange. The point would be to improve the team. There are no sacred cows, and hanging on to Aikman and Emmit too long prove this.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
by Joey2zs on Jan 2, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Change it to what?
Witten is worth more to the team than whatever you’d get in a trade. There isn’t another Herschel Walker deal sitting out there.
probably why he said if
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
if you could get equivalent value+
you make the trade, but he also says you would never get that value.
He is generally agreeing with you, I think.
Everyone is tradeable if you can get more than they are worth.
Of course, trading for draft picks is high jingo with our football ops.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
I was looking for a hypothetical that might be somewhat realistic...
…since the abstract point was deemed worthy enough for its own line of discussion.
I guess if you could trade Witten for
a first rounder and a good starting C you might do it, but then the trade is contingent on a decent draft pick (yikes). That is likely not realistic.
I also don’t think Phillips or Bennett are starter material.
Of course, I still don’t get how Randy Moss was worth a 4th and RW#11 was worth a 1st, 3rd and 6th when he was 10 games from FA.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Of course, I still don’t get how Randy Moss was worth a 4th and RW#11 was worth a 1st, 3rd and 6th when he was 10 games from FA.
Well, you aren’t very smart, are you?
{I don’t get it either}
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
The FA aspect . . .
. . . is often overlooked and makes the deal incomprehensible, even if Roy was the next coming of Larry Fitzgerald; given he was an underachiever makes this bonehead move of the decade. Jerry the GM is a failure.
our 1st round picks
have been infinitely better than any other round. Even the guys who are near bust status have made significant contributions in multiple seasons (outside Carp of course)
they aren't
Austin especially. 2009 to the beginning of 2010 is the only stretch of games hes dominated and caught the ball consistently. Through the rest of his career, his hands have held him back.
he doesn't catch the ball naturally
and I bet he never will.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
I just dont see how Jerry affects the team as far as being a distraction?
How does anything that Jerry says to the media, or any of his non-personnel business moves affect what happens between the white lines when the lights go on? How does Jerry make Terence Newman non competitve on tackle attempts, or make Miles Austin drop passes?
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 AM CST reply actions
Right. Did anyone else see the Giants' owner on the sideline last night?
Nobody cares. It really doesn’t matter.
Jerry keeps the guys
too long because they sell jersey’s……that is how he affects it
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah because you bought an Alan Ball jersey right?
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
I'm not
going to get into a pissing contest with you….you have the right o disagree….so be it. We agree to disagree
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
I will agree if your arguement makes sense but it doesn't...
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
by giving them contracts when they should be gone?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I didn't
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
I feel the same way too...
It’s just part of the game that you get older and slower…I feel bad that he didn’t get to win one with us.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
Can't find pity for a guy getting 9 million per season.
he was absolutely awful.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!
by scotscowboyfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
Newman quit last night
he quit on a lot of plays where he toned it down, you could tell
that one catch on the sideline, he didnt even care
Devin Thomas was the WR, that sideline grab
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
He didn't quit
He was broken. I don’t know if you understand the difference, but it is significant.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
my opinion is he quit on a lot of plays
looking around to see if someone else would make the play
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
He had zero confidence left in the second half
Quit to me means lack of desire to put in the work. My impression was more that he honestly didn’t think he could cover his man. Which, of course, becomes self-fulfilling prophesy.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
ok, thats valid
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I agree Chia
There was a play where Hynoski had caught his 80th pass (single game record) and was running away from another player. Newman had the angle, looked left, looked right for another player to make the play and jogged over to get a push out of bounds after someone else hustled over.
I wanted to cut him at the start of the season. I wanted him benched after that play.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
+1
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Sure, he has been a Cowboy for a long time and played well
You have to feel bad for Newman the person. You can add Bradie James and Keith Brooking to that list.
That doesn’t mean it’s not time for them to go.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
I dont feel bad for them
I really dont
if thats cruel, its cruel
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
It's not cruel. He's a millionaire. To me it was sad to watch him humliated last night.
I don’t think he quit. He just can’t do anything to stop it anymore, and the Giants did a great job exposing that.
I disagree....
there were a couple of plays where he could have made a tackle and it looked like he glanced upfield to see if someone else could make the play so he wouldn’t have to. Then, he pulled up. I think he quit.
thats what I saw
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
-41
The guy quit last night.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
I think he quit on some plays
its like he didnt care
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Terence has made a lot of money
being a turnstile for the last few years. I can’t feel sorry for him. Survival of the fittest.
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
I think his legs are finished
Dude can’t move any more.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
He is not a good teammate...Karma is a b**ch and its coming back to TNew
He off all the people…called out Roy Williams the Safety with the Deer in the headlights comments….so what do we call Newman now?
I'd probably keep at least one of the veteran ILBs.
To avoid a another depth problem at ILB next year, so there’s more than one guy (Lee) who understands the position, and because Brooking and James seem like good locker room guys. I might even keep both of them as backups, unless one is just too expensive.
Its funny because his tackling last night was exactly what I get mad at my son for at his games.
Even my wife texted me during the game and said “#41 looks like our son out there.”
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
LOL
tackling has been an issue for years
- is just as bad
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
#43
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Fernie has a point
The truth is that Newman has a pretty bad (unspecified) injury. But because there hasn’t been any media coverage about it, the narrative has gone against him. Instead of “look at that warrior gutting it out,” its “he’s a stooge.”
my problem
he always has an unspecified injury and is paid 15 million a year
we knew he was a liability, tried to replace him and we got stuck with him
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I think that's the bottom line. He's making 10 mil a year. I'm assuming he and
his contract are gone.
He had his day
in the sun and I thank him for all he did….time to move on though
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
I have to agree with that
Newman is a good person. On field this year, however, really exposed him. This is what happens when a team isn’t developing younger players.
I do too
he’s better than this but has lost the proverbial step. For a CB, that means he’s done.
Don't believe everything you think.
I think we can reflect on his Cowboys career now
And I find it to be lacking. At his best, he was very good but never great.
#demarcusvstheworld
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
That's not lacking.
Newman was a good CB for a long time and a legitimate Pro Bowler for multiple seasons. He should be remembered fondly and with respect by Cowboys fans.
clanged about a dozen pick 6s
including one in the first Giants game.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
How did Smith, Ailkman, and a lot of other guys end their careers?
Switzer? Piss off, troll.
Pardon me
Throughout his career, Newman dropped several sure pick 6 plays, including one in the first Giants game.
He was good, but he did not quite play up to his draft status in my opinion.
Please expand on your remarks, and provide evidence for your assertion than I am a troll.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Every DB who plays for a decade drops some INTs.
Newman was still generally good in coverage was the best CB on the team for years when healthy. I’m glad we agree he was “good”, but I’m not sure any spot in the draft guarantees “great”. If your guy turns into a multiple Pro Bowler it was a successful pick at any spot.
I was hoping for your sake that you were a troll based on the flippant nature of your response, the invalid argument it implied, and the fact that posters had to explain the difference between working with the team during the off season and working out on your own higher in the thread. Your screenname also suggests a lack of seriousness and a desire to stir things up (troll).
Newman dropped a ton of sitters
Lots of gamechangers passed through his hands.
I won’t get into your personal attacks. If that is the discourse you prefer, that is all I need to know.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
first Giants game
easy pick 6. Do you remember that one?
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
This season?
The one where we already agree he was awful?
yes this season
Can I immediately catalog the other ones, no, not off the top of my head.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
But you remember there were allegedly around 11...
..dropped pick 6s prior to this season, even though you can’t specifically recall any of them. Got it. Do you keep conveniently vague stats like that in your head for other DBs or just Newman?
I would say a little more than one a year
Could be 10, could be 14.
I keep qualitative impressions of most players, don’t you? I note that there have been a few times in recent years when Romo has passed up running for a first down and instead thrown incomplete, or like last night, throwing late. I can’t tell you exactly how often – probably about 3 times per year, but again I could be wrong.
He was a good corner, but never a ballhawk – 3-4 picks most years, 3 TDs.
I am not going to go back and watch his entire career today, or ever. I don’t deny that my assertion is based on my own recall.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Do you have a qualitative guess for the yearly league average for dropped pick 6s by starters?
Over one per year for a decade seems a little high to me for Newman. I suspect you’re disproportionately weighting your recent viewing experience.
Same with Romo. Obviously he should have run for a first down last night, but I don’t recall that being a pattern with him over the years. He’s run for his share of first downs, and usually when he passes up on those chances it’s because he’s hitting someone downfield for a bigger gain.
Actually Newman had 5 INTs last year, which ties the most Deion Sanders ever had with Dallas.
In fact Deion averaged 2.8 INTs a year in his 5 seasons as a Cowboy while Newman has averaged 3.6 INTs a year. He’s also averaged more per year than Kevin Smith or Larry Brown did in the 90s. Mike Jenkins, currently our best corner, had one 5 pick season and has only managed 1 INT in each of his other years (including this year). Newman is tied for the team lead this season with 4. This year’s NFL leaders only had 7. Pro Bowler Champ Bailey only has 2. In fact, Bailey only has 11 combined INTs over the past 5 years (he’s gone to the Pro Bowl 4 out of those 5 years). Newman has 20. If anything Newman has been remarkable for his consistency on INTs year after year.
That said, I’ve never seen Newman as a "ball hawk" either. He was one of the better cover guys in the league for several years though. Conversely, it seemed like Roy Williams did get a lot of impactful INTs at Dallas, but he was generally awful in coverage.
qualitatively speaking
Roy the safety had bizarre luck getting impactful INTs long after his play declined. A pick 6 of McNabb to clinch a game, and a tipped ball in the Seahawks playoff game come to mind.
Newman was a very good cover guy, no doubts about that. I just think he was not far from truly elite. Not meaning to rag on the guy.
Deion has few comparables – the ball rarely came his way.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Which illustrates my point....
…that there’s a lot more to a CB’s career than INT stats, even if one vaguely feels that he may have had a few annoying drops over the years.
INTs can be overrated for sure
I just think Newman disproportionately missed lots of chances. Not quantifiable.
Larry Brown couldn’t catch a cold and then gets two in the Superbowl. That was timing.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
actually Brown had 6 the year he did that in the Superbowl
probably from playing opposite Deion he saw lots of balls
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
yes I am now conversing with myself
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
But further underscoring my point.
Which I appreciate. As for Newman, I think every Dallas DB has missed too many INT opportunities over the past decade, but I agree with the qualitative assessment of those who put him in the Pro Bowl multiple times. I think it’s a mistake to take a Pro Bowl quality CB for granted.
the biggest problem i had with Newman was his lack of ability to be a returner.
same thing goes for Felix being drafted that high & not being able to return kicks. it was one of the reasons they elected to take him that high in the draft. to bad we missed on Ray Rice or even J.Charles
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
do you need to use vulgar language to make your point
What do you think that says about you?
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Need to? No, the point was made.
That was just extra spice.
and it was so spicy
Sorry you are incapable of debate and discussion, and instead prefer to attack other posters.
Back to my screenname? The debate just gets richer with you involved.
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
I did too, but that doesn't change the fact I hated his play
I had my first ever total lash out in the game thread lol. On the Cruz td.
I know TNew is one of the guys who does things the right way – I’ve heard many times about how hard he practices, how he loves to work, etc. At this point though, the guy is aging and clearly a liability. Hes become more inconsistent as the years have progressed, but last year and the end of this year, his play has stunk.
The problem isn’t TNew, its the fact that we have nobody to replace him with. Eli’s eyes light up when Alan Ball is on the field.
And in 2007, it was Jacques Reeves that Eli abused up and down the field
Ugh, just doomed to repeat history
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
this is good news, on a bad day
the .#14 picks history is very good recently
check it out
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:24 AM CST reply actions
I really like that idea
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
uhm, what?
okay, forget Jerry, KC Joyner said we had the talent to go deep into the playoffs. Pathetic.
Like I was saying above, the talking heads keep saying this. Dilfer, so far, is the only
one owning that he overrated the talent level on this team.
Dilfer needs to get out of ESPN crap hole. Hes too good and too honest to work there
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Dilfer is good
I like listening to him
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
There is talent on this team
Not in some critical areas I’m afraid. The current roster is very talented, but not well rounded. Kind of like having a Ferrari without tires; your still not going to get anywhere.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
There is talent. He talked about liking Romo, the WRs, Lee. But he said that
made him ignore the elephant in the room, which is the lack of talent at other crucial positions.
This is RKG. L. Robinson
“I want to be a Cowboy,” Robinson said. “I love it here, they love me here, it seems like I’ve got a great connection with Tony (Romo). I love the guys, Dez (Bryant), Miles (Austin), (Kevin) Ogletree, (Jesse) Holley. We’ll just wait and see what happens . . . I’ll sit back and talk to my agent and see what happens, but I love it here. That’s all I can say.”
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Robinson should be priority number one when FA opens
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
its going to suck if Dallas can't resign Robinson bc ignorant contracts to Sensa or Scandrick
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
The NFL is literally filled with too many Laurent Robinsons
There are not enough roster spots for spare WRs. Laurent Robinson wasn’t employed when Dallas found him.
However, there are NO spare Safeties who can play mediocre football. Look at Weddle’s contract. THAT is why Sensabaugh is signed now and not in free agency. SOMEBODY has to play safety.
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to back this up
think of the struggles the Eagles had this year and the Giants had last year plugging in junk safeties. It didn’t work out well.
i think the Giants looked a lot better when Boley was back in the lineup.
i would hardly call Rolle a spare safety
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
so the Packers & Patriots have the wrong formula?
they used spare WRs as DBs lol
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Agreed.
You said it yourself, he’s a spare WR. He may be a guy that emerges as a full time threat, but I don’t see him getting huge cash in free agency.
a 3rd WR should not merit much $ or consideration
if Laurent Robinson wants to play somewhere else. Then buh bye. They can find another 5th string warm body off the back of another team’s practice squad/waiver wire who gets single coverage because of Dez, Austin, Witten and who benefits from Romo’s accuracy.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
I would prefer to sign Robinson for decent money and trade Miles
but that won’t happen
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
I wonder what the Patriots would hand over for Austin’s speed?
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can they buy him some hands?
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by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Austins hands have been a knock on him since entering league.
i remeber reading his hands were like bricks back when they signed him undrafted & even at one point there was more hope for Hurd.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
like Holley or Ogletree?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I hope he re-signs, he was our most productive WR
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by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
its a shame in a way
he was so good this year that I doubt we can keep him.
This team should use Romo as a draft pick machine. Once a wr blows up, trade him for a 1st or more and move on lol. (this isn’t an entirely serious comment).
Guys, don't panic. This team, as I have repeatedly posted has some major warts that
throughout the season could no longer be hidden.
The good news is that we all realize this and, if we do, at least the coaching staff does as well, even if JJ is still wearing rose colored glasses.
Also more good news, we lost to the Gmen and avoided further embarrassment in the playoffs. We get the 14 pick in round 1and the 13 in round 2. What we must realize is that we have to build by solidifying the guys in the trenches. I’m saying that we need to protect Tony, we are set at starting tackles, Smith move to the left side and Free to the right, but the rest of the OL is suspect. First round pick DeCastro, he should be there I hope.
Then because this draft is deep at CB, I’d go BPA in the second on D. If Poe is there darft him, stick him in the NT position, move Rat to DE and the interior DL is set, including depth. Take a CB, if he’s the BPA, ?Minnefield, J Jenkins,etc. or if a pass rusher is there go for him, Lewis, B jenkins, Mercillus.
Cut all the dead wood, big dollar contracted old players and go for good FAs, if Mario Williame isn’t franchised consider him.
In the third target a CB because of depth even if we draft a CB in the second.
We just need a plan to build from the foundation up. JJ starts decorating the house before the foundation has been poured.
Please Stephen, JG, RR don’t let him continue.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
if only Stephen was owner
man I cannot wait until that happens
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
+1
Hopefully he and Garrett can impose their opinions this off season which appeared to happen this past off season with the changes that were made.
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
That Means Jerry
. . . will have moved on to the great owner in the sky.
Quote from my Dad today:
“If Alan Ball is wearing a jersey next year, I’m not watching them play.” He’s been a fan for 40+ years.
I didnt even call my dad to ask him his opinion
I think he might be done with them, 40+ years too
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
OCC
Depressing, but probably true article. Too soon to judge.
I’ll go with a REC and move on for now.
I need a few days on this.
"I'm your huckleberry."
what truly sucks
is its January and the only good thing I get to look forward too is free agency in March and the draft in April
this blows
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:42 AM CST reply actions
Think of it like this...
You will appreciate the Superbowl that much more when we finally get it.
F**** establishing a culture, we need to establish dominance...
yeah well I have been driving myself crazy the last 6 years with this team
let down big every time
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
i hear ya bud......
ive been disapointed ever since 1998
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
NY will beat ATL
but then they play the Saints and will get smoked
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
They will lose. They spent everything on this game. Julio will torch them.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
My fear is that Jerry will outlive me.
And he’s 20 years older than I.
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New Orleans is the teams
to beat…..wow where did that coach come from. LOL shows JG calling plays is not an issue. Look at MM from GB won a title calling plays as HC as well
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
they look great
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Chia, just concentrate on your health, and keep working on your draft board as players
decide if they’ll declare or not.
At Least Jerry Has a Chance to Retire
Not like he will, but maybe after a few more facelifts he’ll decide he needs to take up a new hobby, like feeding himself apple sauce.
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
February
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
its messed up
but I have never been so happy with a player playing like crap and leaving
the Cowboys wanted to pair Ware with a better pass rusher last year, they loved Aldon Smith
this excites me, no more Spencer
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 2, 2012 10:45 AM CST reply actions
problem is Aldon Smith was picked #7 and we’re picking at 14. We’d have a better fate pining for Darrel Revis, who was picked around 13 and is the only true shut down corner in the NFL these days
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by AustonianAggie on Jan 2, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Where was Ware taken?
How about James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, or Clay Matthews? They can find another good pass rusher in the draft too.
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by NUHuskyCowboyMinutemanCeltic on Jan 2, 2012 10:52 AM CST reply actions
Ha ha 22 I hope.
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
Either we lack talent or leadership
I don’t think it’s both. You can’t say that Jerry has screwed up being a GM and also say the team went 8-8 because they are “losers” or “lack heart.” Saying the team lacks heart implies they have the talent needed to win. Saying Jerry is a bad GM is saying they don’t have the talent, irregardless of “heart.”
I think we lack talent. I watch the games and I see guys too football ignorant and too physicially inferior to comepete on a high level for 60 minutes. They wear down in games and they wore down during the season (mentally and physically). You fix the talent problem and it’ll look like we have a bunch more “heart.” But I don’t think any amount of leadership (heart) can make this bunch run faster or make better decisions.
by AikmanGeneration on Jan 2, 2012 11:00 AM CST reply actions
Look at our top 10 players then look at our next 43. I think we lack depth and talent from those 43 but who is picking those 43 players?
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 11:45 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'm a tweaker
Trade Ware or Witten? Ridiculous. Besides, hardly anyone trades in the NFL so that’s just an uninformed comment. Those are two of the greats to ever play for the Cowboys.
We are dealing with the fallout from some poor drafts at the end of the 2000s. We needed a couple of good drafts to get a talent infusion. I think the past two have been good and we need one more.
Would it be great to upgrade half the team? Sure, but it’s not realistic. If we can upgrade two spots on offense (Holland/Nagy and Costa) and three on defense (Newman, Coleman, Spencer) it will make a major difference. The O line upgrades may be on the team – Kowloski and Nagy one year later or Arkin leaving us to focus on the D. We have to hit on our first three picks and probably get a free agent as well. Difficult but not impossible.
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Sometimes we all see with the same Blue and Silver glasses Jerry wears to work every day, but the guys who research and write here do an amazing job. I for one am a better more knowledgeable fan for your efforts, gents. Thanks.
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by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
I've been walking around all day waiting for the opportunity to smack somebody in the face.
I haven’t slept in 36 hours, no thanks to the Cowboys last night, and having to work today isn’t exactly fun either. Yesterday was the first time I can remember that I turned off the TV when a Cowboys game was on. I turned it back on 15 minutes later only to see the same crap continue.
My French colleague can thank his lucky stars he diodn’t show up to work today.
I was laughing at the Eagles all season. Today they are ahead of us in the division. WHAT THE %$#!
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 2, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
I stopped watching the first Eagles game by halftime
I guess it was just foreshadowing
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the part that stinks even more is the Eagles & Giants will be a lot better next season.
Dallas is falling behind every season & its not like we have the best record against those guys in the last 4 or 5 years.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Mellow, O Cantankerous Chum. Remember Balance.
All this is what happens for (four? 4?!) not beating your division rivals. You know this.
When ya run into one of those that say it’s ok to lose games, for any “reason”, remember, Opportunity’s knocking. It’s a mouse/wheel reset.
Besides, it’s “ok” because the Cowboys “get” a higher “more valuable” draft slot and the resultant pick will be a “sure thing” savior player. You know, the “One” to make playoff and SuperBowl victories 100% guaranteed. Ummm, unless the Eagles trade up above us. Or the Cowboys trade down. Or the player’s savior’s “not” or average or a bu…
Heigh ho…
Cry "Havoc!"
Dude, at least you didn't have to suffer through attacks on Twitter
as pissed off as I was, I had to take slanderous tweets from people that think the BTB Twitter account is their online therapist. Like it was my fault the team played poorly.
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Like it was my fault the team played poorly.
It isn’t?
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 2, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
personally I blame Canada
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by AustonianAggie on Jan 2, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
LOL. Dont be too hard on Canada now. they do actually make some good beer
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
I'd just like to say I share his anger
That quote from Jerry enraged me. I had a feeling that was the case too – that despite the fact our defense was shellacked in the 3 previous division games, Jerry would think this D was acceptable and not make significant changes.
Changes need to happen.
The carousel starts, Raheem Morris fired by the Bucs.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Newman
just like to say, Newman was drafted in 2003 when he was 25. The guy is 33 and has never been known to play well with injuries. His time has come. He’s just too old. But he played hard for many years in a pretty thankless position, with a weak pass rush, and with pretty much no safety help. He’s a quality guy who Parcells once claimed worked harder than any player he’s ever had. He deserves better and the safeties on this team are the ones that should be the most ashamed. Sensi blew it on Cruz’s TD (poor angle) and long catch against Scandrick. How is it possible he couldn’t get over there to pick off that gift from Eli? Ed Reed would have camped under that bullshit throw.
And Reed would have taken it to the house too
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
thats an ugly mental image but probably true...
"You are what you are."
Bill Parcells
by cowboymikemc on Jan 2, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
i saw Newman screw that play up more then Sensa.
sorry but this is the NFL & if a CB doesn’t know where his help is then thats on him. Sensa had inside & Newman defended the inside which left a wide open outside lane. if Newman pushes that play inside its maybe a 1st down but nothing more.
RR did a great job calling plays but the players did a horrible job executing whats basic football.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I hope this is the wake up call jerry needs
we need an infusion of talent real badly on D and the offensive line
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 11:39 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Romo Lovers!
In 6 Years as the Dallas Cowboys starting QB, his record in the playoffs is 1-3… 1-3 for crying out loud. Joe Flacco won twice as many as a ROOKIE. Roethlisberger has been a started for 2 years longer. Has he won any playoffs? Eli…another guy from 04. Rodgers? Kurt Warner didn’t have the "skills" of Tony, but he took the Cards to the playoffs 2 straight years. An OLD Brett with the Vikings… Howzabout a couple of no-names: David Garrard; Matt Hasselbeck… Jeebus, the Texans could have a 3rd String rookie with as many playoff wins as Romo by the end of this week…
Weak
but keep saying it. There might be an ESPN gig in it for you.
Don't believe everything you think.
When The Game's On The Line
Romo is NOT the QB you want. Seahawks? Yeah, yeah, I can hodeball coach! Pressure and Tony are opposing forces. Now, go ahead and spout your balderdash about his 4th quarter prowess. Again…LOOK AT HIS RECORD. Pathetic.
Romo is NOT the QB you want.
Well then enlighten us, who would you get and how would you get this clutch QB?
umm i think your dead wrong.
go look up Romos stats in the 4th quarter before posting ignorant stuff. i’m the last person to apolgize for Romo but your worng when you talk about his work in the 4th quarter
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Anyone Wanna Bet
That 6 years from now Andrew Luck will have more career playoff victories than Tony Romo?
That all depends on the team he's on.
Putting wins, playoff appearances, playoff wins, and Superbowl wins on a QB is not an accurate reflection of the QB skills and capabilities in my opinion. One of 33 starters on the TEAM, not including important role players and the coaching staff. It’s a team effort, very very few players at any position in the history of the game have had that level of impact.
I'm first to blame Romo when he deserves it...
but if you think this game was on him, you weren’t watching.
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
Same
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
+1
I will blame Romo when he deserves it, but its painfully obvious that this team lacks Dline pressure on the QB, we only have 1 ILB who can play, we have 2 corners (Newman and Ball) who probably wouldnt make any other teams roster, and we have an interior offensive line that allows too much pressure up the middle on Romo. Those are the reasons we lost this game and many others, not Romo.
Romo, Lee and Robinson were the only bright spots Sunday night.
Blaming Romo for our playoff problem is just stupid. Try watching the damn game, the D stunk it up.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
The moderators should delete multiple identical posts, it's like spam, especially when
there is no rational logic to it. Since when does a QB by himself win, it takes a complete team, which we clearly do not have. For more, you can search for my reply to this spammers 1st post!
Peyton Manning
Career 9-10 playoff record. He sucks, too
P Rivers 3-4. Terrible
OTOH – Trent Dilfer 5-1,awesome. HOF missed one there
Lastly, with DAL missing the playoffs, Romo has no opportunity to change that record. So how is your comment relevant? He should have won a game he didn’t play? That would be truly impressive.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
paste often ? lol
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Oh And There's This
We don’t get to see Alex Smith in the playoffs this weekend… Oh, because he led his team to a FIRST ROUND bye.
A few things I think need to be done.
Flip Tron and Free
Sign Robinson
Find some DBs (draft or FA)
Draft or sign an OLB
Draft more O-linemen
Get an OC and look at all the position coaches.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Some of these are easy...
Flip Tackles, check.
Sign Robinson…definitely doable.
Get an OC and fire (evauate?) position coaches… I doubt they will do what they need to here.
But… we need DB’s, Dline, and a pass rushing LB. And if our young Linemen don’t develop, then OL too.
I’m concerned that this is AGAIN too much for us to address in a year. Maybe we can get it taken care of in two.
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
Is there any chance...
…that King Jerry signs Norv to be the OC, once Norv gets da heave-ho in SD?
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Norv could stay in SD
It’s not a sure thing he gets fired, Sparano is who we should be looking at.
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 12:22 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Man, we don't even need an OC
Garrett’s mistakes were those of an inexperienced HC. Those skills need to improve next season. His playcalling is fine.
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
But I would take Sparano as OL coach
Because Hudson Houck’s return has been an utter failure since Day 1
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Houck could be retiring
Sparano would make a great OL coach
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 12:26 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Holy cow
someone else finally agrees with me on this.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Sparno is ground & pound/OL coach which doesn't seem to be Garrets MO.
Norv is one of the best OC’s ever & his work with QBs is outstanding. theres no question about Norvs ability to call plays or use players in the best position.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
also word is Norv & AJ will be fired
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Id look more for Sparano to come back before Norv but ill take either one.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Don't think there's enough money under the cap to do everything needed.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
get the Norv Turner to Dallas signs out!
possibly find a new DB coach & someone that can get this special teams in position to make plays. Dallas hasn’t had a returner or been that special on special teams since PrimeTime left.
Please Draft a legit returner, its a position of need & i didn’t see D.Harris or anyone except Dez thats even close to being a legit returner.
field position is huge & those hidden yards can lead to easy points that the good teams have. look at the Packers, Saints or Patriots & you’ll see all them have a threat returning.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
This was a very winnable game, but
Even if they would have won the Cowboys would have been 1 and done in the playoffs or at best they would have 1 the first game and lost in the next round. A complete overhaul of the safeties and corners is needed
Personally, the best thing I can do is stop buying into the hype
This team has not given me any reason to not be skeptical.
For example, Bruce Carter is going to be a lost draft pick until HE proves otherwise. In the same vein, I am not going to hope for Stephen Jones to take over — wth has he done anyway?
And scarily, will the line really be better next year just by swapping Tyron and Free? I would like to see proof on the field next season.
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 11:55 AM CST reply actions
Agreed on Carter....
I hope they prove me wrong. I was a doubter on Sean Lee, and I’m loving the crow I’m eating on that one. :)
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
Yeah man, I'd rather see the player prove himself on the field
And I am more than happy to eat crow, three times a day even
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I say we give Carter time before making any judgements
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 12:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
As it stands, however, the opportunity cost of drafting Carter is ridiculously high
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Carter played allot last night in the base packages
first time all year he’s played that much. Hes got a great shot at starting next year. Im not worried about bashing him. Theres no reason to do that at this point. And its the same thing with David Arkin. They new he needed a year or maybe 2 to get stronger. According to Bryan Broaddus hes got everything you want at guard except the strenght. Need to be patient and get him working with Mike Woicik.
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by sprewelllatrell on Jan 2, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Please understand that I don't necessarily disagree with you
But we are still just hoping that these guys pan out, and so far, the track record is not inspiring.
So we will just have to wait till next year now…
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
why didnt
Carter play more the last 3 or 4 games? was it because he knee was still hurting? was it because he couldnt grasp the defense? I hope he pans out, because it seems anyone younger and faster could have done a better job than Bradie James or Keith Brooking.
Great question
I think it may have been knee related….he tore the ACL last December at Carolina….who knows I hope he can grasp the defense. He is an all out gamer good speed, tough hard nose player.
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
I love Tyron
Despite his struggles with Babin, I think he’ll do well there. And Free is far better suited for RT.
Even last night, I thought our problem lied far more with the interior of the line. There was a play where JPP sacked Romo, but he got that sack because an interior rusher came in untouched and Romo was forced to move to the outside of the pocket, right into JPP’s arms.
That's fine
What I would hate is that the teams swaps tackles and tries to feed us BS that it will be enough to improve the line. Both G and C need help somehow!
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
What does the FA market look like this offseason?
Anybody worth trying to get to fix this damn secondary?
Be a Angel Fan till I die... The only good team to come out of Texas is my Dallas Cowboys Baby
I think we
start with DE in FA if we can get Campbell from Az….if we do not fix the lack of pressure we could have Deion back there and it would not matter. Draft OLB, and CB
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
+1
they need some pressure from the DL & if they could get Campbell that would be pretty sweet with a DC like RR.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Had this been a hard fought game, I'd feel better but this team and this year
was horribly mismanaged. Blame starts with JJ who fails to understand anything about football except there are role players and stars. Everything else about the nuance of the game is lost on this man who really has not demonstrated anything remotely like a subtle understanding of the sport.
Blame goes to the coaching staff who devised stupid game decisions (anyone understand why the Boyz started with such a conservative game plan?) and mismanaged the team game day decisions and failed to realistically evaluate personnel (seriously – why was TNew on the field this year? Last year was atrocious and this year was more of the same).
Blame also goes to the players: Austin who is a dropsy waiting to happen; Spenser who can’t get to the QB and causes two offsides; Felix who drops a critical 3rd round; Free is a cardboard left tackle; the list just goes on and on …
Newman was on the field bc our GM failed to replace him?
putting all your chips into getting NNamdi instead of looking at other CBs has bitten this defense in the butt
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Was said earlier on here
that J Joseph was there for the taking ..and we did not go after him
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
When will the fans start blaming the players?
The same defense that has folded basically every year down the strech did it again this season. Its been through 3 different coaches and coordinators.
This offseason the defense will get a makeover. Garrett was able to do it to the offense last offseason by releasing Barber, Roy, Leanord, Gurode. The defense needs it and will get it, especially with the current staff in place.
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by sprewelllatrell on Jan 2, 2012 12:08 PM CST reply actions
That's basically what I've been saying
When you’ve had the same core players for consecutive years now — and they continue to underachieve — it’s on them.
“Playas gotta make plays.”
Plain and simple.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Letter
Dear Terence Newman:
Please retire.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
House cleaning needs to continue....
There are 20 expiring contracts and it includes Spencer, McBriar, Kitna, James, Brooking, Elam, Robinson, Fiametta, Bennett. Looks like Robinson and possibly Fiametta is worth keeping.
Second thoughts on Fiammetta
Very poor showing since his return from injury. Tons of whiffs in key situations.
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
probably why Carolina let him go
I hope he can regain his early season form….he was great for us
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Sure, but if he has had a career of average play
He should not be rewarded for stepping up for a few games, and then returning to his career form.
On the other hand, this is a classic Jerry move. So, I guess the extension will be announced tomorrow.
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 2, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
CAR let him go
with the coaching change and different O system that didn’t require a lead blocking FB.
His overall body of work w DAL, despite a poor last game, indicates he’s a least worth bringing back for a serious look, because there’s no better options and a lot higher priorities.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
I definitely keep McBriar.
He’s one of the best punters in NFL history and even had a decent season this year playing through injury. Maybe at least one of the veteran ILBs too as a back up if the price is right.
He's three years younger than Shane Lechler....
…who’s still dominating the league, but yeah, they should be confident about his prospect for a full recovery before resigning him.
I’d keep Bennett for a cheap price. He’s good at blocking like a 2nd TE should be
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by AustonianAggie on Jan 2, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone who thought this season wasn't a rebuilding season was delusional
We have to look at the positives that came out of this year. We may have found a franchise LT and RB. Those are not easy to come by, and we possibly got both in the same draft.
Now plug the other holes on the OL with young talent, and for the love of god replace the entire secondary. I love Jenkins, but he can’t stay healthy. We must over the next 2-3 years find 5 new starters (I consider the nickle back a starter in today’s NFL) in the secondary.
Everyone bitches about Sensi’s contract, what about Scandrick? I’ve never in my life seen a CB who gives up more 3rd down conversions…
"Be great today" - Jason Garrett
I don't think we were "delusional"
even with the crappy december, we make the playoffs if the team closes out games it really should have won.
But few of us actually expected them to be a SB caliber team. I was thinking 9-10 wins but ultimately unable to compete with a team like GB. We finished a notch below where I expected us to I guess
RBs are hard to come by?
all these undrafted or RBs taken late in the draft seem to be doing well these days iMO
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
thats what i thought.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Not sure what you mean
A 34-year old Sammy Smith coming off his couch and running for tough yards is about a good example as anyone could possible give. The fact this team has drafted too many running backs too high actually makes my point.
This team couldn't find one interior O-lineman this year
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
shocking
relying on two undrafted players, a fourth rounder and a guy who was a backup in college.
That is usually a recipe for success.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
There's no such thing as a "rebuilding year" in the parity era.
At least not in the sense there used to be and still is at other levels of football. A few teams are consistently well run but it’s mostly about who gets on a hot streak at the right time. As bad as Dallas was, they were just a few points away from having 12 or 13 wins. That doesn’t mean you don’t overhaul the defense (you do), but it does mean you don’t write off any given season before it starts.
We were also a few points away from being 4-12
The fact things evened out at 8-8 shows us about how good we were.
That just underscores how razor thin the margin between a losing team and a #1 seed is.
This team has glaring weaknesses that require major overhaul, but no season should be completely written off. There have been too many dramatic one year turnarounds in one direction or the either over the past decade and a half.
Watching Husker and Gamecocks on ESPN. Dennard looks to be a pretty physical
CB and is playing against a larger WR.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
I also like Melvin Ingram for South Carolina
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3rd place schedule
Looking ahead to next year, we are playing 7 games against playoff teams. NYG twice, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cincinnati, New Orleans and Atlanta.
And no playoffs. This team is a long ways from being a good team.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 2, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
not that far out
I think because we have few B level players, we think everyone outside of guys like Ware and Ratliff are crappy. I don’t think thats true – I think we have decent safeties, Jenkins is good when healthy and Hatcher, Lissemore and Spears are acceptable role players. I don’t know our cap situation, but if you add Calais Campbell or a decent cb, our situation on defense instantly looks better.
Offensively, a top tier guard would do wonders for us imo. The interior OL (Kosier especially imo) killed us yesterday
didn't Kosier leave the game with an injury?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Torn MCL is not much
heals on its own over time.
I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.
I like Kosier
he has been solid for us….but he is another guy that just does not have enough in the tank anymore…time to move on in my opinion.
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Id like to see him in TC this year without the plantar fasciitis before we
completely give up on him. He might have one more year in him as a starter or couple more as a backup to our younger guys.
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he's now a progress stopper
shrug time to get younger
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by AustonianAggie on Jan 2, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Id keep him around if hes healthy and can move. Dockery is done.
Loper sucks hence being signed and cut 8 times. Nobody else is proven and a healthy Kosier might prove helpful whether he starts one last year or is a backup. Im all for going younger but if he can still go one more year since this team is in a rebuild then keep him and in the 2013 draft another OL to replace him.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
so does the rest of the division
its going to be another bad year for the NFC East – that schedule is flat out nasty. And Philly is essentially a playoff team imo.
On a happy note, its hilarious that Philly missed the playoffs. Stupid plays and unlucky turnovers killed their season. They are CLEARLY the best team in the division in my mind, an 11 win team masquerading as an 8 win team.
I agree that it was hilarious, but..
…dem Eagles are gonna be flat-out scary next season.
And they’re the only team that thoroughly owned us in both meetings this year.
King Jerry and Red Ball are gonna have to acquire better players and come up with better game plans to have a chance against them in 2012.
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This was the season to squeeze by
The Eagles and the Giants. Eagles were imploding with the new Defensive Coordinator and self destruction of their #1 receiver.They had “fire Andy”chants going in their home games.The Giants looked horrible down the stretch as well.It looked like Coughlin was about to be fired,according to their fans. But when you can beat up on the Cowboys, the whipping boys of the NFC East, it’s exactly what the doctor ordered. Put two beatings a season on the Cowboys and tell me how you feel in the morning.
To quote Parcells
I got “sucked” into thinking this defense had improved earlier this year. I truly thought they were a better unit around the midseason mark.
Then the Philly game happened, and it all went downhill from there.
yes, that philly game let the wind out of my sails
The first one I had blinders on. The second was when I knew, I had become a homer. That’s reality.
Then came the Giants game. The first one was an aberration, the second was a cold splash of reality.
If we can’t even compete within our division, we need to stop comparing the talent on this team to the elites. We may put up the numbers, but we are not in their league.
agreed
priority #1a and 1b for this team need to be
a) stopping the Eagles’ and Giants’ passing games. Whether this means bringing in a better DE, OLB or CB (preferably two of em), we need to do something
b) PROTECT TONY ROMO.
To achieve those
a) We have to get a lot faster on D
b) More even talent on both lines – currently its limited stars w too many scrubs
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
I think a lot of us share this sentiment
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 12:40 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Highly recommended post
Can somebody please send this to King Jerry?
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Most people on here were turning flips when Ryan got hired, I was leery of his style of D
and the BS a Ryan bring with him. I’m still not sold on him or his D.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I agree
But how do you evaluate the DC when he has no talent to work with?
The play where Elam got juked by Bradshaw on the TD comes to mind. Rob had him in position, but Elam missed it.
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
not to mention Newman couldn't cover a dead person
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 12:44 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
a dead person could hurdle T new
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
by I_miss_Switzer on Jan 2, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not either, but watching us play the last few weeks
Its hard for me to put it on Ryan.
He went zone a few times in the GIants game, and we looked even worse.
I still like Ryan
In Ryan’s scheme u need very good corner play.. The secondary was awful. Fix that this offseason and robs defense should flourish
by scandrick32 on Jan 2, 2012 12:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i thought RR called a good game & it was the players making stupid mistakes.
i mean mistakes you don’t make at the NFL level, like not knowing where your help is & playing out of position was a huge problem. RR pulled Newman for good reasons but the problem is theres no one to put in his place.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I have no confidence in Jerry
Even if he “wakes up” he has not proven he can make right decisions to turn this thing. The fact that he even has to “wake up” is absolutely scary. Have the Steelers, Patriots, Saints, Packers had to have management wake up calls in recent memory? Football-wise Jerry has no plan in place. There is no team identity. No Cowboy type of player despite what Garrett blathers about (unless you count low football IQ, failure to rise to any occasion, deficient skills, on-field confusion…).
Look at how Jerry hires coaches. No plan. Look at how he approaches free agency. Wild and crazy shots with no plan. Drafting. Nope.
If you haven’t figured it out by now, this team is barreling toward Toronto Maple Leafs territory. Most miserable fanbase in sports. Because the team make so much money and has an immense following, management has no incentive nor requirement to actually field (ice?) a competitive team. See here:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7023368/worst-sports-city-world
I am reduced to hoping that somehow Garrett has the skills, clout, and savvy to overcome Jerry enough to contend. But after the repeated coaching blunders of this year I wonder.
by Behe on Jan 2, 2012 12:44 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
This is what I was saying
earlier today, he is all about the money not the championships. He signs players that bring star power in his mind to sell tickets and jerseys…he is a business man not a football guy
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
In a real sense
Jerry is taking his core fan base for granted. We won’t wait patiently forever. Most Cowboys fans are pretty astute and demanding people, and though they love their team they are not idiots and won’t root blindly while a deluded fool indulges himself indefinitely.
There’s several major problems with this franchise, and almost all them trace back to Jerry.
I was listening to the Eagle fans
And when they were 4-8, they were killing them. They wanted to fire the coach that got them to a superbowl. These fans already ran McNabb out of town and he has far more titles and playoffs appearances than Romo.
Their fans hold everyone accountable, from the owner to the water boy. They called in to the radio stations and talk about football 24/7. In Dallas, it’s crickets and tumbleweeds. No wonder Jerry has carte blanche to do as he pleases.Everyone stands in line, all to happy to kiss Jerry’s ring.
Let me check my loyalty oath papers approved by the official Cowboys Commisar
And get back to you on that.
A lot of us "realist" fans are not surprised at all by this teams play
Most of us realist that so many of you love to hate saw this coming. It didn’t mean that we weren’t “real” fans. It just meant we chose to see the team for what it was: severely lacking talent. How could anyone expect better from the defense given that NOTHING was done to improve the talent on that side of the ball. The interior OLine is a work in progress, and when you have a string of injuries at guard and your starter is a street FA back up by a Street FA your going to struggle. The BS about Tony Romo not being an elite QB is a result of the over estimation of the talent on this team. Now, with this loss, maybe most fans, and Jerry himself can see the need to cut the fat on this team. The defense needs wholesale changes, the offense needs some minor tweeking, namely a guard and a center. But major talent up grades are needed. We need to see major action in FA. If this is another year of not signing anyone, we will suck for a very very long time.
by just4fun on Jan 2, 2012 12:55 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
And as an example, why are more people bashing Rob Ryan than Jerry Jones? The HORRIBLE secondary from last season was “supposed to be better” by the addition of Abe Elam and the re-signing of Gerald Sensabaugh?
Really?
But right now, the chic thing around here is to bust on RR?
Our secondary is sh__. How can ANY d-coordinator transform a turd into a gemstone?
Our D-line and OLBs can’t put pressure on the QB on their own (but let’s give Jerry a free pass on that too, right…isn’t he the ‘GM’ in charge of drafting/acquiring players who play those positions). And no matter how many exotic creative blitz schemes RR dials up, he can’t trust that suckwad secondary.
Gerald Sensabaugh?
Alan Ball?
Terence Newman?
I’m okay with Mike Jenkins, Orlando Scandrick, and Abe Elam (as a SS). But the above players have got to go.
And back to Sensabaugh… that makes three straight seasons where he has underachieved in pivotal games. I’m tired of watching him hurt our secondary.
When are we finally gonna make every effort to acquire a playmaking FS?
Does anyone honestly think we could win a Super Bowl with THAT secondary?
Those who do are just as delusional as King Jerry.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
#1 on my wish list is mario williams. He's recovering from a knee
and would instantly make this a really good defense. Not a great defense, secondary help is needed for that. But that type of impact player is needed.
He will get the franchise tag...
…I think we draft Melvin Ingram at 14
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure they might, but there's a chance they might be shy
about doing that because of the knee issue, and their defense was really good with out him. I hoping they try to get him cheap because of the injury. But theres lots of defensive talent out there in FA this year. Jerry needs to step up.
If they did that...
…then yes he would be a hell of an addition. He tore his pec muscle not a knee injury..FYI
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Anything is possible
I like where your head is!
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
NICE
Guess I need to research before opening my hole….
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 2, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks new CBA!! That is very interesting now.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
I seriously doubt that Houston just lets him walk away from them. If he doesnt get a contract
with them then Im sure they franchise him this coming season.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
they can't franchise him
He they would have to pay him 21 mil just for next season due to his previous contract structure. He’s gonna hit the open market.
Yeah I just saw that post.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
for the draft I'd really really really like DeCastro.
I think teams are build from the lines. If you look at teams like Pittsburg that are good year in and year out they are built from the inside out. They make sure to have good Olines and Dlines. jerry’s problem is he tryed to build the team from the outside in, namely by getting really good WR. This year, he should see that you have to be able to protect your qb to be successful. Also, with out a pass rush and a stout Dline, your secondary will get killed, esp. a secondary devoid of talent.
I can see Demarco Murray running behind him and Tyron smith
That would make fourth and one every time
David Molk should be looked at too
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by Antonio S on Jan 2, 2012 2:10 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Pittsburgh won superbowls with a crappy line, not sure I agree there
and GB’s line last year was nothing special.
The Saints and Pats generally have two of the better lines in football. It helps keep defenses honest for sure.
I don’t think we need an all pro G, just interior OL who can handle basic stunt blitzes and such.
Dline is a different story though.
Absolutely
I want our first round pick to go towards a play maker, somebody who has the ability to change the game. Guards don’t change games, and very good ones can be had in the middle to lower rounds.
To use an analogy, would we spend a third round pick on a long snapper? Even if he was a really good long snapper? In the middle of the first round you can find superior defensive backs, defensive linemen and pass rushers. We have a ton of needs on the defensive side; let’s not starve it even more by chasing after a ho-hum interior offensive lineman.
I should also add that GB's D was pretty damned good last year and while low-rated
this year, got lots of turnovers.
My point is, something has got to give. Either you field a team with a great D that has the offense’s back, or you field an offense that can overwhelm opposing Ds (and that starts with a solid O line) and can keep an okay D off the field. Which category did the Cowboys come under this year?
I’m not disagreeing with you; I just don’t quite know where the off season should begin.
ok i understand
yes I don’t know either. Which is why I would go BPA – whether its DeCastro or a CB, DE or OLB.
Teams recently have had success scoring tons of points with a porous defense. I think we may be a single elite interior olineman from reaching this level.
We won’t be the Packers, who rely so heavily on the pass, but I think we are only a one or two players away, probably on the line, from looking as potent as the Saints or Pats.
I agree about the need for more talent
Schemes and coaching and leadership can’t turn bad talent into a playoff team. Look at Wade. His D was a killer this year. I don’t think the old man suddenly changed his schemes or coaching style. He just had better talent.
Get Big Rob more talent (and SMARTER talent) and I bet his schemes look better.
Unfortunately, our drafts and FA aquisitions have been so poor recently that I can’t see us fixing everything in one year. We need at least one new starting CB, a true FS, a better #3 CB (Scandrick is more of a 4th CB, Alan Ball is more of a dog catcher), an OLB, a monster DE (or monster NT) and possibly a ILB if Carter doesn’t pan out.
by AikmanGeneration on Jan 2, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
This team shouldnt be "married" to anything.
Not to Jason Garrett
Not to Tony Romo
Not to the idea of Jason Witten or DeMarcus Ware finishing their HOF careers as Cowboys
Not to the 3-4 Defense
Not to the idea of winning big in the next few years.
The idea has to be to build a team that is strong enough to be in the mix year after year. ALL things have to be considered.
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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 2, 2012 1:07 PM CST reply actions
Ryan should be fired
How many plays every game is the defense totally confused…pointing at each other before the ball is snapped? Blowing coverages? That’s 100% on the coach. They look like Keystone Cops.
by bewareofdware on Jan 2, 2012 1:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I heard Tim Ryan on Sirius...
talking about how the Raiders after he left were saying he was a genius w/ defense but that the players couldn’t understand it. If the players don’t get it, it’s not worth much, now is it?
The Superbowl is played three times each year: the "real" one, and the two times we play the Philadelphia Eagles.
Yeah, teams actually do very little trading anyways, so tweak what we can through
free agency, draft well and try to make it work!
Problem is...
You can’t teach stupid. I say give RR some smarter players and another year.
by AikmanGeneration on Jan 2, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
I am so sick of hearing people say crap like this..
Seriously? Rob Ryan is to blame for improving the defense over last year, when we gave him NO help with a shortened offseason and the EXACT same roster. Part of Ryan’s scheme is to act confused to stop a QB from making accurate defensive reads. The defense was bad, but it’s never going to get fixed if people keep calling for the heads of coaches after one year.
Trades
It’s a good time right now to trade Jason Witten (leading receiver), Miles Austin (still young with value) and Jay Ratliff (pro bowler but losing power and steam) We sure could use about 10-11 picks this coming draft and why not start with 3 1st rounders and 3 2nd rounders for Jason Garrett’s team.
Yeah, teams actually do very little trading anyways, so tweak what we can through
free agency, draft well and try to make it work!
Miles' and Ratliff's contracts make them un-trade-able
Even if you wanted to.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Sentimental value
i really don’t care about sentimental value. right now, i believe that the only player from the Parcells drafts that really matters is Romo. He is our quarterback and he resurrected this dismal francise from out of the ashes.
Coaches that need to be fired
Dave Campo (would love to have todd bowles)
Joe Decamilis
Hudson Houck (sparano would be nice)
Thank You
Rec’d on this alone:
And please, stop all the talk about how talented this roster is, or how a roster with this much talent should have produced better results. Stop it right now. The talent on this team got us to 8-8. It’s going to take a talent transfusion to get this team anywhere.
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
It's more the uneven distribution of talent
Stars and Scrubs. Surprisingly, opponents scheme to neutralize the Stars, then exploit the Scrubs. Lather, Rinse Repeat – See DAL vs PHL, NY for further reference.
I don't make mistakes...just understandable bad choices
O-ring theory
an NFL team is only as good as their weakest link.
See: San Francisco 49ers. They don’t have any stars but played in such a way that they had no holes. There was nothing to obviously exploit and it got them 13 wins.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 2, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Free Agency
I would prefer to see Kosier type signings as opposed to big name signings.
Romo is thousand times smarter than you so does that make you dumb?? Just curious
It seems to me that as long as Eli and Coughlin are in NY, & Vick n Reid
are in Philly, we have little chance of ever going very far. I hate saying it, but we just aint got their brand of coaching or player talent and will.
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Max value trade for draft picks is Dez
He has huge talent but inadequate discipline/skills to operate effectively in a Romo-led offense. Won’t be much of a drop-off going with Austin and Robinson (look at the evidence of the last games of this season when all were healthy). Furthermore, you will get far more in trade value for Dez than almost any other player (and you will definitely get more value for him than any other starter who has an alternate who performs approximately as well). Plus he scores lower on the RKG scale. The decision to trade Dez now for picks is like the opportunity to trade Bennett for picks a few years ago, x10.
If you can sign Robinson, a huge if, and then watching Dez develop into a monster on another
team would just really suck!
Dez has yet to have a full off season with his WR coach who is the guy that turned GBs
WR corp into what they are. I look forward to seeing how Dez progresses this coming season with an entire off season and TC with Robinson
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
We are supposed to have such tremendous receiving talent, yet nobody seemed to
be getting open last night against a below average secondard. What gives with that? When the OL gave Romo more than a second (not often, but) he was still taking coverage sacks!
And, I love Ware, but those offsides penalties on 3rd down are just killing me!
Question the play design
Where were the outlet receivers? What were the route combinations against the coverage schemes the Giants were running?
Question the play of the receivers versus single coverage, Miles and Robinson. (The Giants were rolling a safety to Dez’s side.)
Question the decision-making. Why did Romo hold onto the ball so long and take sacks? What throws did he not think of making?
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by LDVFootball on Jan 2, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
A question I've wondered often
Other teams seem to be able to get their receivers open after three seconds, so why can’t we? Why does Romo have to run around for eight seconds looking for someone to get open? Do the receivers not run sharp routes? Do defenses have a good idea of what is coming and smother them?
Good post. Recommended.
Similiar.
Tony Romo is another Drew Bledsoe….He hesitates too much. Just compare Romo to Manning. Look at the throw that broke our backs. Cruz was blanketed, but Manning had the guts to fire the ball and let Cruz do his job. Romo needs to fire the ball. If he admires how Bret Favre played, then Tony should know better.
Ont he other hand if Romo throws it up into coverage like Eli did and its picked off
then people like you are going to bitch that Romo was stupid for throwing it up into that same coverage.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
EXACTLY!!!!
Can’t have it both ways.
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Unlike the offense used during Aikman and Irvings days, the offense used today is not about timing, its about routes. Aikman would count 1.2.3 and throw the ball to where the reciever should be, it was up to the reciever’s to be at point A. Today, the WestCoast offers short and long passes, the QB finds the one that is open and throws him the ball. The bad news is that Romo is’nt given much time, that is also why he is most successful when he scrambles
I think its very unfortunate
that the NFL doesn’t release the overhead view that fans would need to correctly analyze the team. As such, it really is impossible to grade Romo, the wrs or the secondary.
I'm starting the unofficial campaign to sign Mario Willliams
He basically can’t be franchised by the Texans. So, now it’s a matter of getting him signed. Rarely does a young talent like that become available. Jerry needs to be all over that.
If I were Jerry Jones
I’d sign Jason Garrett to a 10 year contract to make him immune to moods. At some point in Garrett’s career Romo is going to retire as well, and RHG needs a chance to get another QB. I can’t believe some fans are already wanting a new coach?
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The last time Jerry looked at a 10-year HC he got burned so bad it may've changed history
“I personally guaranteed him a ten-year contract. If he had never coached another game, if he got hit by a truck and disabled, or if he never won another football game, he was still going to make six or seven million dollars. The reason for the ten-year contract was I wanted more of a proprietary feeling. I don’t want to make the decisions in a vacuum that make me basically the sole keeper of the shop for the future around here. I want somebody else also standing right there, thinking about the future of the team. I didn’t want somebody around here helping me make decisions who just had a short-term attitude.”
Guy’s name was…
Cry "Havoc!"
OK, I'll bite
Dave Campo? It would explain one thing that i chalked up to possession of photos of Jerry and Jimmy in compromising positions …
man ...
… usually experience is a hedge against diminished brain activity in one’s golden years. I wonder if we would have a better Jerry had the 90s Cowboys’ ascent been more difficult.
by Lajitas Lava on Jan 3, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
I guess one could say Jerry "won,"
but neither fared well footbal-wise after the divorce. Palpably ironic.
There is another way to solve this problem, Jerry.
I don’t want to make the decisions in a vacuum that make me basically the sole keeper of the shop for the future around here. I want somebody else also standing right there, thinking about the future of the team.
HIRE A GODDAMN F****ING GM!!!!!
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If Jerry made those statements to yoda
His response would be “and that is why you fail”
i agree
this is why i posted what i did a few weeks back. i said that i kind of hoped dallas lost the next 2 games. and that was one of the main reasons why. if dallas had made the playoffs and won one game, then jerry would think that dallas was close. when in reality they are not close.
Defense...
Next year get rid of that " Stinking" 3-4 defense. Not all teams have a great passing offense. The new trend is the WestCoast offense, but if you have a great front four defense you can rattle the QB. In the NFL, that’s like challenging the Great QB’s to throw the ball. Guy’s like Brees, Brady, and Rodgers will tear apart any 3-4 defense, if given time to throw. The idea of “trick blitzzing” backfires more, than it works. All of the Great Dallas Doomsday Defense’s were 4-3 style defense. The Genius Coach Tom Landry added the “Flex”. The past is our answer to winning and success.
Thank you oh great omnipotent one
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
What's the common denominator
Okay we have to admit the cowboys just aren’t that good. They haven’t had a decent season since “97”. What’s the common denominator, “Jerry Jones”. Because of his ego, he let Jimmy Johnson (who had only won 2 superbowls) go. That was the beginning of the end for the boys. First thing they need to do now though is fire Ryan. This was the worst “D” in years of bad defenses. The prob is NOT Romo. Then just clean house on both lines. They couldn’t sack my grandma & shes been dead for 10 years. And no QB or back is going to look good when the line just dies on every play. I’m afraid there is no quick answer. But, hopefully Jones wont let the boys become the Browns of the NFC
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