Revisiting The Draft Needs Of The Dallas Cowboys
by Tom Ryle on Jan 20, 2012 12:00 PM CST
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PrintI had a lot of fun taking a first look at what I thought were the draft needs and priorities for the Cowboys. It got a lot of attention and, most importantly, a lot of feedback. After digesting some of what I have read there and in the various and sundry other draft articles here on BTB and elsewhere, I am going to do a revised and expanded look at the draft needs, and start to put a little bit of strategy into the mix.
This is still all for fun, because as much as I would like to believe that Jason Garrett and the Jones family pore over my articles to benefit from my wisdom, I know that they don't have a clue who I am and could not possibly care less. But in our hearts, we all like to dream what we would do, sitting in the Dallas war room with the phone to the draft in front of us and the final call in our hands as the team goes on the clock.
So let me share what I would do, and how my thoughts have changed since I wrote the first article. Mostly, I'm hoping to get some other takes on things, and obviously there might be some chances to revisit this in the future, but that will depend on having something interesting to say. Which kind of puts it in your hands. After all, I'm doing this because of the 600+ comments the first look got.
And, well, because I want to.
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First, a quick review of my original "wish list" for the draft, based strictly on the Dallas picks as they currently exist.
- CB
- Pass rushing OLB
- G/C
- ILB
- QB
- DE or CB
- NT, DE (if CB in 6), or CB (if DE in 6)
You can already see how I tend to put some conditional things in there with the way I put the 6th and 7th spot.
I'm not going to redo the way I set the priorities, just note how my thinking has changed as go through each round.
First, I am no longer committed to a cornerback in the first round. I have developed a lean towards putting more priority on the pass rush than the secondary. In addition, this draft is considered to be very deep in cornerbacks, so the team is likely to still be able to get good value at this position in the second or third round.
Second, I am becoming more and more convinced by the David DeCastro proponents. He is by all reports a rarity, a guard that is deserving of a high to mid first round pick. In essence, he is going to become a key to figuring out the first two picks.
Let me put up a table to make it a little easier to follow what I am doing.
| Round | DeCastro available | No DeCastro |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | DeCastro | Best pass rusher |
| 2 | Best pass rusher | G/C or CB |
| 3 | CB | CB or G/C |
| 4 | DL or LB | DL or LB |
| 5 | QB | QB |
| 6 | CB | CB |
| 7 | Defensive BPA | Defensive BPA |
If DeCastro is available, he is the number one pick. If he is not there, then the first round pick will be for the best pass rusher available. This could be a DT, DE or OLB, as long as he is high enough on the Cowboys board. What they take in the first or second round will drive the selection in round four.
Now, the second round follows from that. If the team got DeCastro in round one, then they should look for the best pass rusher left in the second round. If they didn't get Decastro, then they look for a guard/center or cornerback in round two. This is where BPA and need blur together a bit. A G/C would be the preferred choice here, but not if you have to reach past a good cornerback.
The third round is a cornerback, unless in the second column you went with one in round two. Then you go G/C here.
Now, the fourth round is based on what kind of pass rusher was picked in round one or two. If you got an OLB, you go DT/DE here. If you took a DT/DE, this round takes the best linebacker available. This can be an ILB or OLB, going with BPA here, if Anthony Spencer is still with the team. I would assume that if he has a new contract, it is because Rob Ryan has decided he is has value on the outside. If he is gone at this point, then OLB would probably be the priority here.
Fifth round is time to look for a developmental quarterback IF there is good value at this point, someone like Case Keenum out of Houston who has shown he can move the ball. If, however, the pickings at this point are slim, then the team should move to getting another cornerback. The same happens in the sixth round. If no QB looks good there, go best defensive BPA, and the seventh round just becomes a BPA choice, as far as the team can determine that late.
One caveat. The idea of BPA starts to get mushy as you get into the later rounds. This is to a certain extent a best guess. Sometimes, the team may get to the fifth or sixth round and see a player they think is a clear steal at that level, but more often, there are several players that an argument can be made for. Here, the needs of the team can drive the choice, but the staff should not reach or go for too much of a project.
My draft preferences are still for five defensive players and two offensive. This is without any idea of what free agents may have been signed to this point. That, of course, could totally change things if one or more of the team needs has been clearly answered. But without knowing this, those are my thoughts - today.
Tomorrow is another day, or so someone once said.
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Agree on DeCastro. He’s as close to a sure thing as you’re going to find at 14, and barring injury, 40% of your OL is set for the next decade.
OK, for the first time I'm now questioning taking DeCastro....
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 20, 2012 2:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Any thoughts on drafting a safety?
I know the draft isn’t deep on safeties, but it’s still a need.
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no clue how they attack the FS position but i'm sure they find a stop gap player next season
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I think we are better off with a free agent Safety since this draft class is weak on safeties
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Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
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FA class is much worse
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just don't know that there is going to be one at the right place.
Maybe in the late rounds, but I am fairly pessimistic about fixing that problem this year.
O line, cornerback, D line – those can be fixed, so I focused on the most doable.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
We should def look for a QB either in the draft or free agency.
McGee is not the answer, all he will ever be is a career back up.
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i'm afraid he wont even be a good backup going into next season
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I was being nice
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
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Twitter: @silva918
I read there are some good prospects that can be had in the later rounds.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
If, big IF, Kellen Moore is available in the 5th I would love that pick.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 12:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I thought of him, too. Just didn't want to get into laundry lists.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Not that big of an if....
Kellen Moore will be a career back-up IMO. He’s a lot closer to Colt McCoy than Matthew Stafford. That’s the starting point of my assessment of any quarterback- does he look like an NFL passer when he spins it? The answer in my opinion is that Moore does not. If a quarterback does not have the arm there are just so many obstacles to overcome. The list of hugely productive college passers without the arm to make it in the NFL is far longer than the short list of quarterbacks that overcome it.
If I take a flyer on a developmental QB I don’t want a lack of physical tools to be a part of the obstacles hindering that development.
by Linebacker22 on Jan 20, 2012 1:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree with that, he doesn't have a rocket but I've seen him complete 50 yard bombs with pinpoint accuracy.
He reminds me more of drew brees than either of those other two. I could be wrong, but I think he’s def worth a 5th round pick.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree about Kellen Moore
He’s very similar to Drew Brees. I’d put Russell Wilson in that category.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's my point...
The only person people can compare him to is the most successful smaller armed QB on the planet. I was just pointing out that Brees is a list of one, while its far more likely he’s Danny Wuerffel than Drew Brees. System QB. Just my opinion which means nothing but I see Danny Wuerffel.
by Linebacker22 on Jan 20, 2012 3:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Have you watched Kellen Moore in big games
He’s made every throw a QB has to make.
The Virginia Tech game he was throwing short, intermediate, and deep.
The Georgia game, he lit up their SEC defense. If he was chopped liver like Colt Brennan (Hawaii 2007) he’d have gotten lit up.
He played in a pro style offense as well, not some pure spread offense. The guy can make throws from under center as well.
The other thing about him the moment never gets big for him. He’s never rattled. I’m not saying he’s a first round pick, but I believe this guy can eventually become an NFL starting QB.
Tony Romo doesn’t have a cannon, I think Kellen Moore has a similar arm, as they both have quick releases.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He has talent, but he is really on the small side, both height and weight.
Do you know anything about his frame and if he can gain some serious muscle?
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Here's height weight comparison
Drew Brees is 6ft 207, while Kellen Moore is 6ft 191.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
For a QB that is small.
If he could bulk up to 210 lbs, he’s worth a look, but how many Drew Brees’ are there?
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
That very true, there's only 1 drew brees but I think Moore can make any pass on the field, and he has amazing accuracy.
I see him being a starter one day and at worse a solid back up. He is worth a 5th round pick IMO.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 9:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i'd question what Boise had him listed
he looks more like 5’10 180 LBs IMO
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
i think Moore is shorter then Brees & i want to see his true weight/height at the combine
its rare smaller QBs like Brees make it in the NFL & for every 1 Brees u have 1,000s of Wuerffel so if your going to take late round QB atleast make it one that has the measurables to play in the NFL
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
My QB list is tall
Brock Osweiler from ASU. 6’8 240 surprisingly mobile and a lazer cannon arm. Middle of the 2nd would be great.
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by InkedKing on Jan 21, 2012 1:55 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
i'm not against the DeCastro pick if theres nothing else worth getting
i put a bigger value on front 7 defense bc theres just not many 300+lb big guys who can get the job done.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
but not addressing the secondary until the third round?
if decastro and the best cb are still available, you still go decastro?
Its tough
Lets say you have Kirkpatrick and DeCastro in your lap. CB is a desperate need but do you take the risk on Kirkpatrick to fill a huge need or do you take the very safe pick with DeCastro that still fills a need but not as big as CB. Personally I believe if this actually happens Jason would go with DeCastro to follow his RKG theme
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
by Trueblue122 on Jan 20, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'd take DeCastro over Dre too. That would be a tough call though.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
i doubt the "best" CB will be on the board at 14 so why even consider something that wont happen.
the top 2 CBs will probably be off the board by the 14th pick & even though i lke the Gimlore kid from South Carolina i dont think he’s nearly worth getting over the top OL in the draft.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
yeah Claiborne is a sure fire top 10 pick no question
Kirkpatrick might slide to 14 because of the weed issue. Considering Garrett’s adherence to this acquiring the RKGs, I doubt they select him either.
In Romo we Trust
Dallas needs a safety in the draft
If DeCastro isn’t there at 14, I say take Mark Barron, then comeback in the second and take a G/C or CB.
Or, if DeCastro is there, take him, and then either take Markelle Martin in the 2nd Rd, or George Iloka in the 3rd Rd.
Any of the 3 safeties I mentioned are better than Abe Jag Elam.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not sure Barron is worth a 14
Maybe the combines will change things.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Looking back at 2010
Didn’t the Cowboys target: Eric Berry (S), Earl Thomas (S), Mike Iupati (G), and Pouncey (G) as guys to possibly trade up for?
That leads me to believe they’ll have Barron as one of their targets, as he’s hands down the best safety in the draft.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 12:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Pouncey being Maurkice Pouncey
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 12:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
just because he's the best safety doesn't necessarily mean he is a top 15 or top 20 pick.
Thomas was targeted because he was a top talent and a position of need, as was Berry, Iupati and Pouncey.
In Romo we Trust
That's the issue.
Do you trade down for the best safety if he is not a legit top 15 pick? Who do you pass up? I just think that at the 14 spot, there will be at least one player who is legit and who meets one of the other needs.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
We'll have to wait and see at the combine
Let me just say, I’m not saying we should take Barron over DeCastro, I’m saying I’d consider him for the pick, and lean towards taking him at 14 if DeCastro was already taken.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 1:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Trading down to get Barron
Isn’t a bad idea. I’d do it, we’d get an extra second round pick in the process.
Again, only talking about Barron if DeCastro isn’t available.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 1:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You're exactly right Tom
Stay pat at 14 and draft the BPA at a position of need, thats the best strategy IMO.
In Romo we Trust
Every draft somebody gets picked at 14
DE/OLB Robert Quinn (too early)
S Earl Thomas (very good safety)
S Malcolm Jenkins (first corner of his draft, too slow, moved to safety)
OT Chirs Williams (injury prone)
CB Darrelle Revis (first corner of his draft – all pro)
Mark Barron probalby isn’t going to be all pro, but he wouldn’t be a bad pick. I believe Ingram, Kirkpatrik and DeCastro have higher ceilings.
Agreed
and let me reiterate, I’m saying we should take Barron if DeCastro isn’t there.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 3:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hate trading down early in draft.
I like trading up after round 1 if someone falls.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Well
Safety and Guard are positions of need. DeCastro and Barron ae the best players at their positions. DeCastro is a higher rated prospect, could go in the top 10. Mark Barron is a prospect who can go anywhere from 10-20. ESPN lists him as the 14th best prospect in the draft, while CBS/NFL Draft Scout ranks him at 18. It really wouldn’t be a reach to draft Barron at 14.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 1:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Right now, the boards are kind of speculative.
This will make more sense after the combine and pro days – but it is still an inexact science. As I hinted, I am trying to provide a forum for discussion with a proposal for people to play off. And I am going to be interested to see if I come close at all after the draft.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Senior bowl in Bama next week, I'd go, but I've got too many teeth to cross the Bama state line.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Jan 20, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
hahahahaahaaa dire loil
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
nothing about Berry
but they said
Earl Thomas, Mike Iupati and Dez were the guys they would have traded up for
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
that's right
they had dez in that grouping as well
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 1:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
if they choose to go with Barron they will suredly move back in the draft and pick up picks
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Makes sense
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
but at some point, they gotta reach for a safety
if we took Barron at 14 I would give the pick an A- just because they finally got the best safety in the draft and we have a huge need there
with that being said, that doesnt mean I would necessarily take him there if other guys are available
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed that safety needs to be addressed...
It all depends on the cowboys board. If they have 5 players rated higher overall than Barron, then they’d be reaching to fill a crying need. Like you, Chia, I’d still be happy to see it but expect them to have enough options at 14 to stay true to the board. The draft class is just so terribly weak at S that I don’t see how they don’t sign at least one FA safety. Can’t put all your eggs in this drafts basket if the fallback is sensi and Elam on another 1 yr deal.
by Linebacker22 on Jan 20, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
S is just down in college and the pro’s
hard position to find great players at now
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Seems like theres been a few recent draft days that have been light at safety
On the projection of next year does it look any better then the last few years?
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
The FA class is just as bad
Landry from Washington, he’ll want big money.
Brandon Merriweather, I like the U, but the guy is afraid to tackle. If the Bears and Patriots don’t want you, and you’re a former high pick, you must really suck. My lasting images of Merriweather: stomping on a dude during the mele at the Orange Bowl, getting dusted by Ray Rice on the 83 yard rd run in the 2009 playoffs, blatantly launching his helmet into Todd Heap, and Jahvid Best running circles on him @ Detroit.
Michael Griffin: too inconsistent for my blood.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 1:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think there are a couple cheaper options
It just feels like we’re going to have to overpay either in FA money or in the draft to get a playmaking safety.
I'd rather over pay for a young guy like Barron
Yeah maybe we miss a pass rusher, but we can get a guy in the 2nd Rd. Playmaking safeties are hard to find.
We get Barron and we can pencil him in long term.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Brandon Merriweather is a complete bust
I totally agree with you there
by somebodyquiet on Jan 20, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
Chia, you should know better, shame on you
You never reach for any position in the early rounds, that will get you in a heap of trouble
In Romo we Trust
+1
I agree, let the draft come to you. This isn’t a one year fix, we gotta think long term
by somebodyquiet on Jan 20, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
i agree with you about Elam & dont care to see him on this roster next season
its bad enough having Soft Sensabaugh playing SS & adding another below average safety wont help much.
i’d take my chances in FA & Elam could be the back up to the back up plan bc i dont see any team jumping on him before the draft. see what Safeties come up in the draft & go after one if the value is there. just bc theres no Ed Reed doesn’t mean there isnt a good FS out this draft. some players with the RKMind can develope quickly
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Barron is a strong safety...
we need a free safety. take him and we are going to continue to struggle in coverage…
bad idea. all safeties aren’t created equal.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
Safeties in today's NFL have to be interchangeable
They both have to cover and support the run equally as well so this idea of strong v free as two different kind of players isn’t as true as it used to be.
In Romo we Trust
Thing to consider is how our divisional opponents are build
The birds have a running back terror and vick is a 2 man trap-him-to-catch-him job.
Gmen are receiver heavy so either man up or get pressure on the Qb
Skins…well who knows but if they are looking at Green Bay’s Flynn then cornerbacks seem to be the answer.
So do we say, what the heck let’s build our Offense so at least we can score some points, or do we build with an eye towards stopping their offenses?
i like where your head is at
i agree defense should be addressed, this offense with a healthy murray will be plenty, its the other side of the ball that needs to complement it.
and eff the giants, they’re mediocre for the first 2 downs then somehow always find someone 17 yards downfield, i despise it!
+1
when you see other succesful organizations putting more value on Defensive players it doesnt make sense to think this Dallas will look anything like the Patriots even with Nicks & DeCastro.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I'd rather spend money on a FA C then Nicks.
The extra we save will go towards the D.
Smith DeCastro Myers Nagy/Arkin/Holland/Avg joe Free
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
i disagree & thats nothing against my Dallas Cowboys but
i dont ever see Romo being nowhere equal to Brady
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I see the Giants, and Eagles
And I say, damn, if we don’t improve our offensive line, I don’t care how good our defense is, Romo is gonna die back there and we’re sunk.
We need to improve the guard and center positions through draft and FA, as well as improving the defense.
We can’t ignore one for the other. We can fix both.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Skins have a great front 4 too
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
This is excactly the price you pay for some bad drafts
damn I’d like a re-do on 2009….
Don't believe everything you think.
Right on,
last weekend convinced me once again that the game is won in the trenches. I was initially all for CB, but seeing the 9ers and Giants, together with the depth of CB in this draft, have me thinking exactly along the lines of Tom. Only difference is that I’d make sure to fill either G or C with a seasoned guy in FA.
and not with lee and carter
should be a low round depth pick at this point (injuries considered)
And don't forget UDFAs.
Looks like Orie Lemon may be part of the answer, so there is at least a chance we can get another decent quality backup there.
We only have seven picks (now), and could easily use at least 10 or 12 players to upgrade what we have. FA and UDFA will have to take up the slack.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
i was excited to see Lemon make the PS last season & it should help having spent that year learning the game
he should be stronger & have to think way less
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I think that Lemona nad Albright both take big steps next year and Butler does
the same in the secondary
Resign James
to a vet min contract.
He can provide leadership, he knows the playbook and he’d probably be the cheapest avail to step in immediately if needed.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
i think Brooking stays before James.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Personally I say we FAgency steal someone's center (either Houston's or Green Bay"s)
and then we have 3 out of 5 positions on the line filled for a while and the we have guys who will get in the weight program this year and maybe we get lucky with 2 of them. If not then 4 out of 5 and use a back to help chip or a TE.
I wanted Cullen Jenkins last year because he pushed the pocket, is disruptive and he can play any of the positions along the line- giving the D-coordinator a lot of options. So I still would say find a good vet you know can plug it up. Then try to find at least 1 pretty good cornerback (which frees us to dump Newman and his big salary).
Then look at the freedom it gives us when we draft. That’s my take on it, and when 14 hits we can go Cb, C/G, De or trade back and try to get a lower 1st rounder and a high 2 (since the draft is suppose to be high on linemen and corners).
Seems the only significant change in GB's D was the loss of Jenkins.
That push up the middle made a world of difference.
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by pfloyd1 on Jan 20, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Final 4 this Sunday..............
here we are talking about the draft again. That just burns my ass.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I find Prep H helps.
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The only cure is Dallas winning playoff games.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
But you need to soothe the pain until then - and another year is a long time to hurt.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
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+1
just think about the kids in college that havent seen this organization at the top. theres zero excuses for having the highest payroll in the NFL & only 1 playoff game.
stars come & go but the one on the side of that helmet is forver
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I agree!
I am in college and have been following the Cowboys since I was 6. I hope to one day see the Boys back on top :)
by Dezisabeast88 on Jan 20, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Not a very good analysis
simply because you can’t draft strictly by need, you have to look at your board and see who the BPA is in a position of need. To pigeon certain needs in certain rounds simply doesn’t work, especially when we have no idea what needs will be filled in FA. So even to do this exercise prior to FA is pointless IMO.
Also, DE is much more of a need than you seem to think. I like Hatcher and think he can be a player for us when healthy, bit the rest are JAGs, we need a dynamic player at that position and much more depth than we have currently on the roster.
In Romo we Trust
thats why i love the idea of rat moving over
and drafting or signing a new NT
Cowboys DL have to be interchangeable
meaning in Ryan’s scheme, all the DL have to be able to play both NT and DE. I think the Cowboys will acquire more DL, but not to move Rat to DE, but to provide depth and a quality rotation.
In Romo we Trust
Terry
It’s more important that a top 3-4 defense have an elite Plugger at NT. Our DEs will be better if we get a big space eater to collapse the pocket.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not true in Ryan's scheme
He plays his DL all along the line. See my comment above.
In Romo we Trust
you continue to show little understanding for variable working of football.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
When you said
for variable working of football.
I imagined it in Igor Olshanky’s voice…
Don't believe everything you think.
I know it is pretty much just daydreaming.
But I tried to build in the BPA/need balance. Just think the team needs to address C/G, D line and CB in the first three rounds. I don’t see those problems being totally solved in FA.
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I like your approach Tom.
We have many needs, BPA approach will automatically fill a need, except an ILB pick.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
ILB is a need as well
maybe not as a starter, but if James and Brooking are both cut, we have nobody right now behind Lee and Carter.
In Romo we Trust
counting on Carter to become a starter next season is a huge task to ask.
i expect Dallas to address the ILB position in FA. like finding someone to replace Lee if he gets hurt
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Not in the first Terry, we have greater needs.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I agree he isn't the best pick for us in the first
Just saying ILB is a need though
In Romo we Trust
No question that depth is a concern.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
i think the starting position opposite of Lee is in trouble
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Orie Lemon is an ILB, isn't he?
I think he will have a chance to be a good quality backup, at least. Still need another, but that may be a good area to address through UDFA. Get a young group in there that could be stable for years.
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I hear the team has gone
sour on Lemon….
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 20, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Waaah waaaah wahhhhhhh
He’ll be here all week folks. Try the veal.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
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by accidental innuendo on Jan 21, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
not true, you take the best player and don't look back cmon.
You make schemes to fit your players not the other way around right? If we have 3 starting ILB I am sure they can find a way to utilize that.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
and i think by now we all know that if dallas drafts a ilb #1 .......
chia will jump off a bridge , so im getting the nets ready .. hahahaaaa
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They won't be solved totally in FA
and I’m sure these positions will be addressed in the draft early, however until we know what positions are addressed in FA, it’s impossible to predict how the draft will play out.
In Romo we Trust
and Terry if you are talking to me, I do have DE in there
Likewise the whole BPA thing is great in theory….so a quarterback comes up at 14 do we go with your idea and select him cause he’s the best play available…. no, that is like saying in the future I need a tv so if a great deal comes alone I make my family go hungry because it was I was following the BPA plan. Theory guides reality, it is not reality
Yes, I'd hate it if the Skins actually had an Offense.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
no you don't
Anyone who takes a qb in the first round in today’s NFL is looking to play them within the first two years, thats isn’t happening as long as Romo is here.
In Romo we Trust
If RGIII is there at 14, something bad has happened. No way he drops out of the top 10 or really the top 5 unless something bad happens.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
well Romos deal is set up where Dallas can trade him & not be on the hook for all that contract
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
they won't, but they have cap flexibility to do so if they have to
down the road.
I don’t want it to happen.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
that would be nice
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He'd better. I hate all the vicious attacks on Tony. If you compare bonehead plays of all starting QBs in this league,
Tony would be way ahead of many of the top QBs in this leagus. My God, Rivers always gets a total pass by the pundits of football.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
If Andrew Luck falls, I draft him at 14
If RGIII falls to 14, I trade that pick for extra picks.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
IF Luck Falls
I trade Romo…IF RG3 Falls I trade the pick
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
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by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 20, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
If RGIII falls, something has gone wrong with this guy, and I don’t want to be apart of it.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
IF RG3 is around its because something is wrong with him.
and I would be trading our pick and picking up a 1 for next year.
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I think you're saying the same thing
If he either falls or the Skins take him…
theres’ something is wrong with him.
Don't believe everything you think.
I wasn't talking to you, I was commenting about Tom's post
and regarding the BPA you need to read more carefully, I never said take the BPA at any position, I said take the BPA at a position of need, which is why we wouldn’t take a qb at 14 if he was the BPA.
In Romo we Trust
If a qb was BPA at 14, I would have to think about that.
It could be a really good plan for the future of the team. Fortunately, I don’t think this is an issue this year.
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but I wouldn’t be too heartbroken if Tannyhill was sitting there in round 5. I know it won’t happen because QBs are overdrafted, but I would glady trade out Tannyhill for Magee.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
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by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Only QBs with 1st round grades in this draft are Luck and RGIII,
Any one else a major reach.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
You think they are the only 2 that will be taken in the 1st?
I don’t.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Who Tannehill, I consider him a major reach for the first round.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
With the injury, he is looking a lot more like 2nd/3rd, I would guess.
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That's where I think he should go too, Tom.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
true
but that doesn’t stop teams from overdrafting them. just look at last year. I expect there to be at least 3 QBs taken in the first round. A couple more in the second. Tannyhill’s injury will cost him the all star games and combine, but he will still have his pro day. He’ll be overdrafted as well.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
So, you're saying take Tannehill at 14?
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
haha i was waiting for that
Terry should just say what he thinks instead his BPA stratagy
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
No, I'm not saying that at all
I’m saying he’s considered a first round talent by some analysts
In Romo we Trust
If TAMU QB goes in the first rd like Ponder and Gabbert last year
Shake my freaking head, these teams love overpaying for JAGs.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Teams reach for qb more than any other position
because it’s the most important position, without a good one, you have no chance.
In Romo we Trust
I know Terry, I know
We reached for Quincy Carter in the second rd of 2001 because we missed out on Drew Brees, and were desperate to get a QB.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Please do not draft a Texas A&M QB
Who is the best QB to come from there?? Gary Kubiak? McGee? Bucky Richardson?? They should be called Backup QB U
by dcsince77 on Jan 20, 2012 5:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Which is it Terry?
Tannenhill is 1st rd pick by some analysts or many analysts?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 3:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
there is a distinction
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I want no part of Tannyhill or whatever the hell his name is
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
His name is Tannehill.
TexasGarcia37 has been misspelling the names of Tannehill and McGee. My guess is that being a UT fan, he is doing it to poke fun at them, though, I could be wrong.
I don't want a TAMU project QB
We already have footsteps McGee.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know
I’m just saying one project from that podunk offens. is more than enough.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, there offense was pretty good last year.
Their biggest problem last season was that they had a WR who dropped several balls (Fuller) and a defense that could defend against the pass to save their life. It was oddly reminiscent of watching a Dallas game.
I'm always hesitant about players who switch to QB
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 3:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He was always listed as their back-up QB and practice as such.
Furthermore, he won his first 6 games he started at QB
Yeah, Fuller was banged up.
But watch that Swopes kid.
Also, they may have some serious O line talent coming out in a year or two.
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Yeah, Fuller was banged up, but balls were hitting him in the hand.
I’m excited about Swope and the o-line. I’m also excited about Sean Porter and Damontre Moore. I believe they lead the Big 12 in sacks this year.
honest mistake
nothing more
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
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to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
it's cool
If we had lost that last game in College Station this year, then you would have something. With the last win the series for a while, I’m feeling much more diplomatic towards the aggies.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
A QB at 14 would stir the pot, that's for sure.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I was not arguing for a Qb, I was debating the adherence to BPA vs. Drafting Your Needs
I see the value of both sides of the argument. I also see how the VAST majority of draftees either hardly ever play or don’t so that makes me tend towards… well we know we have a need and if most of the draft is a crapshoot anyways at least picking for need when there is a clear one is us putting our best hope forward.
by LiveNDieBlue on Jan 20, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
you make it sound like a fact, which it is not
I am not advocating one Or the other as I indicated by saying I see value of both sides. Still when you say BPA in an area of Need…ultimately that is drafting for Need!
by LiveNDieBlue on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
as will picking BPA, you need to balance the two
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
The only QB I would trip over myself to take in the 1st Rd
Andrew Luck
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i think RGIII will be way better then people expect
i wouldn’t be surprised to see him gone in the top 5 to Cleveland or the Redskins. i think the Jags would have a hard time passing over a prospect even with there miserable shot last season with the Gabbert pick.
when the Redskins pass on a QB then there must be a huge problem with that person.& seeing how they didnt think about Gabbert told me alot about Shannahan thought.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I don't hate RGIII
I just don’t like him as a top 10 pick.
That offense he ran was nothing like you see in the NFL, it’s going to take a few years to develop him. Contrast with Luck, he’s ready to start day 1.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 2:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would disagree
The Baylor offense reminded me a lot of the old Raider’s vertical passing offense. The only big difference is the under center aspect. I don’t think that will be too big an issue for Griffin.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
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by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
I really think the Skins will go after Flynn in FA.
Tannehill in the top of the draft. I’d immediately call for a psych evaluation.
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Snyer will out bid the Phins.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Flynn made himself a ton of money in week 17.
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he certainly did
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 3:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Don't know how the double post happened.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
What ever they do I hope it's right,
because I’m tired of watching other teams playing late in January and Dallas sitting home.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
i guess if i were JG i would look at the draft like this..
what player will make the quickest contribution to making the cowboys a sb team? understanding that not one player can do it alone, how does said player compliment the team enough that strides could be made. the offense’s weakness is absoultly the interior of the line, and with what looks to be a primere back and a great backup that need should be addressed quickly.
the defense has to play catch-up to the opposite unit because there are several gaps that need filling, including pass rushing and a pretty much revamped secondary.
my vote goes to decastro if available, but thats the only offensive player i take at 14
i think Dallas did enough damage last season picking a RT over a game changer at DE (Watt)
i really like DeCastro a lot & wouldn’t be as sour about them drafting him over a defensive player like last season with Smith over Watt.
elite players are hard to come by & finding another DE like Watt doesn’t happen very often. i’m sure if Tyron goes to a few pro bowls & becomes the top LT it wont sting as bad but as of now the Texans stole one heck of a football player. argubly the best player to come out of last years draft was Watt
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I wanted Watt as well
but after watching Tyron this season he certainly has a great chance to become just as good as Watt if not better.
In Romo we Trust
You really think Smith hasn't been a game changer for us?
Go rewatch Colombo from the year before.
Yeah, I'm not going to criticize that choice
the only reason we’re talking about it is that we now see a team trying to make up for some bad drafts and it’s painful to have to watch those choices passes us by.
Don't believe everything you think.
They will both go to several pro bowls.
You don’t sweat a choice like that. You feel bad if you draft a bust or a jag and miss out on a great player.
Besides Coples has Watt -like Talent. I don’t think he has the vertical leap or the short shuttle but he runs a better 40. For (FAN IN THICK AND THIN) The overall talent is similar.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Peter Konz, center, out of Wisconsin may enter that conversation.
Although I did hear a comment that he may have some injury or other health concern.
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he had blood clot in his lung or something like that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Pulmonary embolism?
Odd for a young man. He may have a genetic defect that predisposes him to clots – hypercoagulable state. Treatment would be blood thinners. Hard to play football on coumadin.
Apparently, BirdDog said DeCastro has a condition that could threaten his career
Read that in the comments of 5Blings post, but can’t find anything about it.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I thought that was about Konz.
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It was about Konz.
BD said that rumors were Konz has a medical condition that is life threatening and treatment could be career ending.
not rumors
he has had the condition and it is not something that can be cured. He is a medical risk and no way should be draft him
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 21, 2012 7:14 AM CST up reply actions
Whoops, i meant the only way I take Decastro at 14 is if
1. Mario Williams and a starter in the secondary is signed in free agency.
2. He is the BPA
3. If we decline to sign Nicks or another starting guard.
by starmesh23 on Jan 20, 2012 1:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
ok now all together.......
M A R I O isn;t comming to dallas to play olb in a 3-4 defense ,cause he cant cover te or fast backs and he doesnt want to play olb……..
if i hear this mario crap any more my head will explode and the walls around me will become smarter… ! loil
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You saying it like its fact
When its more of an assumption but you need to go take a breather man.
by Sado44 on Jan 20, 2012 3:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
besides it kinda creeps me out, is when inanimate objects began to take a life of their own and talk to me ......
while i sit in a padded room looking dumbed down and wondering why there’s no windows………
but then.. i havent located where those chirping bird sounds are coming from…….
and the chick with the weird Phillis Diller hair, is an entirely different story……
hands Tom his meds back……
BAAAD DREAMS ! lol
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Defense
If we have a shot at Kirkpatrick, Upshaw, of Barron we need to take advantage… Our defense could use 7 or 8 new players…. All 3 guys will be perennial pro bowlers
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 1:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I completely disagree with that statement there are always busts.
Kirkpatrick is a zone cb not a man to man and our blitz heavy D plays a decent bit of man to man. Upshaw had a good game in the NC but I’m still not convinced on him, and safety’s are hit or miss A LOT!!
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If all three of these guys were guaranteed perineal pro bowlers no one would have scored on Alabama all year
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Who's perineum? LOL
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thats stupid.
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Jan 20, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
I was over exaggerating but you get the point.
These guys aren’t guaranteed pro bowlers, I can promise u that. Nothing’s guaranteed. They aren’t even guaranteed to be the best players at their positions in the draft besides the safety.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes. not even decastro is guaranteed, even though everyone has already proclaimed him a hall of famer
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Jan 20, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
That's true too he's not, but offensive linemen are by far the safest most sure fire picks
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 2:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh yea so safe
How’s Jason smith playing these days?
Russell okung?
Gabe carimi?
Andre smith?
lol@ sure thing these guys are bums…
OL is far from a sure thing…
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 2:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No one is sure fire but of the first round picks there are less busts on the offense and defensive lines than other positions.
But you’re right, no one is guaranteed to pan out.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 2:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't understand
Most of the guys you listed are injury guys (not unsafe due to poor play). Injury safe is an impossibility regardless of position. And,
Russel Okung is pretty good – started 13 games before getting injured.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 20, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
What ceiling?
After yr 1 or 2 that’s pretty much it… Andre smith doesn’t have s ceiling. You think Jason smith is gonna wake up one day and be all world? Okung has reached his ceiling which is just ok… And carimi doesn’t even have a ceiling…
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 3:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah drobe
I get your point but those are bad examples…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 21, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Carimi was doing well before injury & Okung is a solid LT but has struggled with injury
2 out of your 4 examples still have a very high ceiling lol
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Carimi should not have been a first round pick , and I didn’t want him in a trade down but I think he will have successful NFL career.
He will not be a “bust”
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Check the stats
Bama didn’t give up a world of points… Their defense is better than ours right now… They run a 3-4, actually rush the passer, and don’t give up 300 passing yards every week… If we had their defense this yr we’d have made the playoffs… Spencer and tnew couldn’t have even started on bamas defense… Smh
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 2:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Do you actually believe that ignorant comment??
Lmao yeah bamas college defense is better than ours, your right!!!!!! I hope your joking
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 2:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You really think
Spencer is good which tells me you don’t watch him… Plug Upshaw in his spot and you get an immediate double digit sack guy with a motor… Anthony Is the softest linebacker in the NFL…. He’s a fringe Player on any Pther team
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 3:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Your name should have been dopey86
Hahaha yea Spencer stats say diffrent doesn’t it out him in top 10 in and top 5 on his side of the line.
by Sado44 on Jan 20, 2012 3:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
YeA
Spencer is a great Olb…. He gives you a whopping 5.5 sacks per year and that’s against 1 on 1… Generates few sacks, no pressure, sucks in coverage, no motor, nO heart…. Do I need to continue? You can act like he’s decent all you want, but turn on the tape he gets dominated week in and week out. I’ve never seen him make a play behind the line of scrimmage. I’ve seen Jacobs run him over… Wow are we watching the same player?
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 6:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You apparently see less than is actually there.
For a guy who is number 5 in the league right now for TFL stats taken from 2000-2011 he ranks number 5. This year lead all rolb in TFL so he does make plays behind the line there dopey. It understandable people want more from him and looking to replace is OK but be realistic here. You want sacks or you want the whole package. 6-8 sacks from rolb is about right.
by Sado44 on Jan 20, 2012 7:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Upshaw is not that good.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Upshaw is good no doubt about that but is he worth replacing spencer for is the question here.
I’d like the upgrade just cause it has the potential to be an upgrade and if he can produce what Spencer does in TFL and tackles and atleast match his sack total then we didn’t loss anything but if he can’t then we are screwed. Its hard to say at this point in time.
by Sado44 on Jan 20, 2012 5:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Based on what
Upshaw has more moves than almost Anthony
Upshaw is bigger than Spencer
Upshaw is faster than Anthony
He plays with better leverage
He actually has a motor
He’s 10x smarter than Anthony
What about that says Upshaw is Spencer 2.0?
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 6:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am not interested in watching days of film to try and count moves each does or doesn't use. But here are both's college scouting report #'s for height and weight. Spencer wins both. Speed has to wait for Upshaw's combine.
Anthony Spencer, DE/OLB, Purdue
6’3″ 266 lbs.
COURTNEY UPSHAW OLB, Alabama
2011 GRADE: 6.9 HT: 6-2 WT: 265
WB: I’ve seen a lot more of Upshaw and I’m still trying to get a feel for this guy (Hightower). I just don’t see a real dynamic quality to Upshaw’s game. He wants to get in and pull.
I was looking at Anthony Spencer’s stats, and I think his high was 6.0 sacks in a season. Upshaw is going to be right in that range. Maybe he has a year where he gets 8-9 sacks, but 5-6-7 sacks a year is where we’re going to see Upshaw. He’s going to play the run really well.
As for better leverage, motor and intelligence. All very subjective and impossible to prove when looking at college vs the pros.
When did I EVER say Spencer was good?? Never, spencer sucks
I think we should get an OLB in the first round IF decastro is gone. I just think Ingram is better than upshaw.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Amazing the lack of objectivity...
Spencer does NOT suck. I repeat, he does NOT suck. He’s not Ware and he’s not Albright. He’s a solid run stopping DE playing the OLB position (he’s out of position).
He doesn’t produce in the manner THIS team wants him to, but he doesn’t suck by any means.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 21, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
not many people did score on Alabama so i dont know where your going with that
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Georgia southern scored 21 points on them, all before the 4th quarter
And besides arkansas name one legitimate offense that they played against. I’m not denying that they were good, but they weren’t Automatic all pro players.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 2:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yea
Ok the national champions have a defense with 4 first rounders on it but they aren’t any good…. Smh
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 3:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
the overwhelming majority of SEC offenses are utter garbage
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why is that? You'd think they'd attract the top QBs as well as the TOP
D recruits.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Because most of the SEC teams play
Like they’re the 1970s Steelers, 1985 Bears, 2000 Ravens, and 2002 Bucs
Offense don’t do anything stupid, let the defense win the game.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Did I day they weren't any good? No I said we shouldn't be selecting them for the hall of fame before they play a single down of pro football. They were very good, but Kirkpatrick isn't the best cb in the draft and upshaw probably isn't the best OLB.
They are def 1st round worthy but they aren’t automatic pro bowlers is all I said.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
7 of those 21 was a kick return.
and they run the triple option – the only time we saw an offense like that all year.
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Jan 21, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
dre has a lot more experience as a man-man cover corner than you think
upshaw had more than just one good game in the NC
agree on the safety position.
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by Mr. Abe Froman on Jan 20, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
That's why DeCastro should be the pick if he's there, if not BPA: Ingram, Perry, Brockers
all appear to have what it takes to improve the D. Dre or Upshaw would be good picks too, but I honestly prefer the other 3 by a narrow margin. I’m hoping Dre doesn’t slide, because we’d more likely get a shot at DeCastro.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
agree on Ingram over Upshaw but i want to see the combine before booking that
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
The guy (Ingram) is almost
280 lbs. He looks a lot more like a 4-3 DE than an 3-4 OLB.
Id look for a DE over a linebacker
That’s just stupid to take a possible upgrade at linebacker than a definite upgrade on the line.
by Sado44 on Jan 20, 2012 3:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not saying that these guys aren't all very good, but nothing is garaunteed.
The most guaranteed pick at 14 (if available) is decastro, he won’t be a bust.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Judging by OCCs latest post
We could easily get a beast pass rusher in the 2nd while getting DeCastro in the first. Wow! A CB and C in FA and this team is ready to go!
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
That's the spirit Big. I'm totally with you!!!!!!
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
just as long as there is a CB taken in the first three rounds
I will be happy. A ton of CB talent in the draft.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Be very surprised if we don't take a CB bt the third.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Wow, I am freaking excited. This team, full offseason, JG, Woicik, Dez, a new G/C/rusher/CB, scary!
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I totally agree, there should be a couple very good pass rushers still available in the second
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Good pass rushers
Don’t make it past the top 15… If we want them we better make it happen at 14
by drobe86 on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Clay Matthews
Lamar Woodley, Ryan Kerrigan, Calais Campbell, Cliff Avril…
Only
Clay Matthews in that group is an elite guy… The rest are just above average. Kerrigan is Spencer 2.0… Woodley is solid but not a double digit sack guy… Calais campbell plays the 5 technique and isn’t a double digit sack guy either… And cliff avril is just a guy… He’s a wide 9 player so the scheme makes him look better than he is… Ie Jason babin
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 11:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Name a 5 tech 3-4 DE that is a double
Digit sack guy. Come on man we need to upgrade our 3 down lineman atleast two spots and a 4-7 sack guy is good a nt that can get 2-4 and two ends that range from 4-6 is where we need to be. Be realistic man
by Sado44 on Jan 21, 2012 11:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you want a GREAT, GREAT pass rusher (15 SACKS A SEASON for 6 or more years ) then you might have to wait until 2014 .
But whatever the price is to get him it would be well worth it.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
unforunatletly what OOC posts doesnt mean it'll happen
Mocks are fun but dont mean a lot imo
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
spot on Terry
thats why i wont even make a mock yet
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
it wasn't a mock.
Just production ratio of guys .
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I know bro
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Kool aid all around!!!
Hey, if you can’t get all gushy optimistic now, when can you? Might as well enjoy the good feelings while you can.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
by Tom Ryle on Jan 20, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
haha exactly!
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Bruce Irvin in the 2nd round would be nice
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 20, 2012 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That would be ideal. I'd have a huge problem though if both he and Jenkins were there when we pick.
I’d have to take Jenkins
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
All the talk about DeCastro at 14............
What the chances he get taken before 14? I saw a mock that him going to AZ at 13.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Well you see all the stigmata about Guards aren't suppose to be taken that high.
There will always be some new faces flying up draft boards. Chances are very good he’s still there.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Yeah I know about the OG and Center thing, but if he's that good other teams might very well make the leap.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
i agree 100%
if this kid is really the best Guard in draft history & a sure fire no bust pick then why would he last until 14th in the draft. only thing i can figure is Guards just arent valued that high
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Which is why I had one column for him being there, and one for him being gone.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
from everything being reported
it sounds like the Cowboys are going to let Spencer test the free agent market
I would like to see us double dip at CB, come out with 2 CB’s within the first 4 picks
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:21 PM CST reply actions
Somebody will over pay.
They always do.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
What if we get a CB in FA?
FA of course will clue us in on the direction they intend to go.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
if we get a CB in free agency I will be so happy
I really think they will
left cornerback was a problem all year
I dont want Grimes, Raf made a great point about him being 29, what happens when he turns 31 into a big contract?
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Just like Newman
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
exactly
DCFanatic radio was good the other night, minus the first ten minutes of him bugging out lol but they talked about some real good stuff
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
its looking more and more like Finn.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
for the right price, I would love that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
i never liked Grimes in Atl
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
i like that as well
draft 2 and buy one as well
thats what I am thinking
just totally stock up and rebuild that position
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
What are you thinking?
Just so many ways we can go this year. I’m not sure which is right. 1st round decastro, cb, or OLB? All would help so much. I guess the easiest scenario to predict is if decastro is gone. But even then do we go cb or OLB?
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
honestly idk yet
last year we kinda knew what we were gonna do, this year there are so many options man
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
thats why I havent done a Cowboys mock draft yet
there are like 3 different ways they could go
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
But what cb?
Kirkpatrick is good but will JG want him with the drug bust? And Dennard at 14th is a reach when other BPA guys should be there.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 2:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You asked:
But even then do we go cb or OLB?
And I said CB.
I'd draft Jenkins if we went CB in the first. He's the best next to Claiborne and I think he's redeemed himself. I'd love to get him in round 2 if he slides.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
He's my choice if we go cb in the first.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If spencer does leave we have to get an OLB in the 1st or second?
Do we feel we can get a good enough OLB in the second? I think we could. But also will janoris Jenkins be available in the second? If he even is, would Garrett want him? So hard to know what these guys are thinking
by Dynamicduo on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks Tom for this post!
This way I don’t have to bore my co-workers with draft/FA talk all afternoon. I can crawl around in here with like minded football nerds. We don’t have to agree, but we’re equally passionate about the star!
On the OLB point the only one I’d want in the 1st is Ingram. The rest just feel too much like Spencer, set the edge well, not a plus pass rusher, limited explosiveness. That’s why I think a starter level pass rusher needs to be a FA priority along with center. I think they need two upgrades in FA, if not 3. Let corner and guard be sorted out in the draft where this one is deepest. That, and hope a safety is left on RR’s doorstep by the stork because I’m not convinced this draft or FA class is going to provide a starter.
by Linebacker22 on Jan 20, 2012 1:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We are here to serve.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Good comments
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Dallas is going to do little to nothing on S and upgrade the secondary at CB.
Don't believe everything you think.
2 CBs in
the first 4 rounds and we go after Nicks hard. We can scheme around the pass rush for a year because the Cowboys may end up franchising Spencer.
No way
I don’t think they are going to be shelling out $8 mil for a year for Spencer when we can sign someone that can do as much for probably less and someone better for about the same amount.
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
To my understanding
Spencer wants to be with ware and the cowboys he will give a discount but wants his value set on the open market. Dallas will prolly sign him just cause the replacement for Spencer isn’t a proven talent. Other holes on the team seem to glare more than olb. Just what I have taken from recent conversations. Money is always the object in the NFL but the difference between great money shitty team and unknown and good money original team and well known is gonna make what happens happen.
by Sado44 on Jan 20, 2012 4:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Think the boys will get a competitor pick for Bowen?
by The Loco Llama on Jan 20, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
maybe
its looking that way from what I hear
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
yeah somewhere in that range
but I am skeptical still because we signed Coleman and Elam, I think March is when the comp picks come out
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Nice if it's a fourth.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Any extra picks, especially mid round, will be great.
Just another factor I don’t have an answer for now, but I refuse to be bogged down by my own lack of knowledge.
Many wonder why I never got into politics.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
A fourth sounds so much better than a fifth.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Mr. Chia
will Irvin, the OLB from W. Virginia, be there at Dallas’s second round pick? I know there are questions on his ability to stop the run, but the dude can get after the QB.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
idk if he lasts that long man
with a good combine, he will go in the first round or early second
i like Irvin a lot myself, strange things happen on draft day, maybe he falls and that would be great for us
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
first Gilmore now Irvin
None of my sleepers are sleeping. I’m afraid that Coleman, the QB from UT-Chat, will start to get pub now.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Who is Goodwin?
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
No he's staying at Texas.
declaration deadline for underclassman has already passed
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 20, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
hey guys
doing a podcast 30 minute one on blogtalkradio.com at 3pm eastern today
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/chiacrack/2012/01/20/chiacrack-radio-episode-1-draft-talk
call in if you want
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:43 PM CST reply actions
O sh!t, I got to get the popcorn ready.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
lol
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
hour tomorrow
if i missed your call my bad, will get you on tomorrow
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
got signed in and heard a lil bit , looking foreward to catching you on )
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
cool
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
hahahha
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Very cool I am glad you are doing this
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
how was it?
just freestyled it, I am gonna actually write a show next time, setup properly
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
no doubt
that will be the worst show ever
its the first one
expect much better stuff going forward
i gotta figure out how to get my callers on
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
I think 2 or 3
idk how to get them on, i’ll figure it out though
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
loved it
You tell us the details and little things, and this is where everyone will need to go for their draft info needs
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
awesome
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
wish that wasa 800 number, have local phone only ( o ill have to type chat at ya lol
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
I think when I upgrade its 800
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
far out that would be awsomnesss to the umpteenth degree lol )
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
lol
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
You forgot a fairly large need
PUNTER!!!!
Fortunately, the Boys might be able to get one w/ a 5th or 6th round pick.
Chris Jones was signed to a 3 years deal.
Bring in some UDFA for competition.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Though another need is defn returner!
When was the last time the Cowboys had a threat back there ?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
WORD
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
The doctor gave me some big suppository..........
for all the good they’ve done me I could’ve stuck ’em up my ass.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
if we were to say....
draft a FB, who would be some names we might take in the draft ?
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
i guess im just not sure how long we might have our current FB, what with his past probs and all
there’s another Hynoski besides the one the giants took last year ?
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
FB would be at least the 5h round
by torchindefenses on Jan 20, 2012 3:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This draft goes one of two ways for me
1st Rd. DeCastro 2nd Rd. BPA CB/Pass rush (don’t care wether it’s DL or LB).
or
1st Rd. BPA CB/pass rush 2nd Rd. BPA G/C
We need a FS but Markelle Martin in the second will be rated lower than a handful of corners that will be available.
You can't figure draft without the FA first
Mario Wiilams DE or Robert Mathis DE
These two are way better than anyone Dallas could draft in RD 1. Pay to get one of them
RD 1 – best G or CB
RD 2 – best OC
RD 3 – best G or CB whichever didn’t fill in RD1 or LB
by torchindefenses on Jan 20, 2012 3:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I would be willing to give up almost anything to get Williams
Mathis has no place on this team way too small
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Isn't Williams going to cost an arm and a leg?
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
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Pepper's type money I fear.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Agreed.
Peppers got six-year contract worth $91.5 million, with $42 million guaranteed. I just don’t see how we can fit that in. That’s a lot more than DWare who got a six-year, $78 million contract with $40 million guaranteed.
by somebodyquiet on Jan 20, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Where would Williams Play
he’s too big to play OLB and he doesn’t really fit the 3-4 DE scheme well (although he’d probably be better than Spears at rushing the passer).
Mario isn’t a fit in a 3-4…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
you would be able to find lots of places for him.
Line him up at both end spots and at OLB
move him around
if you got him you can play both 3-4 and the 4-3
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Mathis at OLB
would be interesting; a better Ellis
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 21, 2012 7:08 AM CST up reply actions
The only disagreement I have
RD 1 – I still say best G or CB/ Pass rusher BPA, but now only LB not DE.
The CB’s are deep in this draft so if I had a rushing LB rated higher I’d go that route and the front 7 would be nasty. Then go CB in the second because the value is there. I can’t lie, after DeCastro Dre and Jenkins are my preferred voices, but if I knew I could get Ingram along with Ware, Rat, and Mario…that spells trouble
I dont think it spells anything but another up down season
If we leave our d line the way it is we can not expect much change in the pass rush we send 4 guys to rush the passer ware is the 4th I don’t think Williams will make a standout DE in the 3-4 rat at de makes sense but who replaces him and who backs who up we need a nt or a de one or the other before I’d say any olb would have success unless he is the 4th rusher and ware isn’t going anywhere so that isn’t gonna happen.
by Sado44 on Jan 20, 2012 4:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
My main issue
We have 3 needs that need to be addressed in the first and second rounds. What if we trade down a little bit (4 picks?) and pick up extra picks so we can get enough picks to fill our needs, and then go from there. It seems that every year we ignore a specific need and we always regret it, like OL in 10 and DB last year.
I want Kirkpatrick or Dennard or Barron, but I do think DeCastro is the safest pick to make. It’s hard to find O-lineman who are busts so there is little risk and a very very high reward.
I don't know if anyone has posted this yet
But Nick Eatman tweeted earlier that the tackle switch “seems likely now.” So there is that.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
That is so last year on BTB.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
I'm very confident when I say
The Cowboys will not draft a FS early in this draft. The new secondary coach is very high on Elam. Dallas will ask both S back. Also Jerry has not drafted too many Olinemen in the first round, can I say Tyron Smih was the first?
by torchindefenses on Jan 20, 2012 4:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Or
RD1 – Michael Brockers DE
Or Dre Kirkpatrick may fall to us now. Most teams dont look at smoking a little weed as character concerns.
RD2- Chase Minnifield CB
RD3 – Ben Jones C
by torchindefenses on Jan 20, 2012 5:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
My only problem with waiting until the 3rd to grab a CB is
you can’t expect a 3rd rounder to be a starter in this league right off the bat so if we don’t sign a FA CB, we’re still gonna be exposed at CB. Hopefully we can sign Terrell Thomas and draft a CB in the draft
hello BTB
Hey fellas. Been following this website for years… just never got truely despaired enough to comment until after the end of this past season. 41 yrs old, die-hard fan since age 3… blah blah blah. Anyway – love reading ya’lls comments & want to finally chime in here and there. OK. My chime here: watch the Cowboys take a punter in round 5 (+/- 1 round – maybe the compensation pick for Bowen). Unless we can find one in FA, we really need a quality punter. I realize we have tremendous needs around the horn, but this is a position I think we can ill aford to fill with the incumbant Jones.
by camrin55 on Jan 20, 2012 6:33 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Welcome!
Have a newbie rec!
And Chris Jones has actually performed quite well. And was given a 3 year contract. He will be our punter in 2012 if McBriar can’t be.
I hope we can find a returner / DB this year.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Welcome, and a newbie rec from me.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
I've been on here a while but I don't know what a Rec is....or how to do it
by LiveNDieBlue on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
Click the actions button, then click rec.
If you get four recs on a comment, it turns green and that way it draws attention.
On fanposts, three recs will move the post to the recommended section. It is just a way to show you like it and recognize the effort of the person who wrote it.
And don’t be afraid to ask questions. Almost everyone here is glad to help. And they were probably just like you at one time.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
welcome and rec- camrin
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Punter?
Is that even a legit football position? GOD. I can’t believe that is my first post on this site. I’m so ashamed already.
Way too early for posting regrets.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Yeah, it's gets easier with time
the more you post, the less people pay attention and eventually you can say almost anything and not regret it. Once I thought RWII was going to work out, I thought Wade was fine and I had high hopes for Ogletree. All buried in the sands of time….
Don't believe everything you think.
C
Ok. A much more legit position. I noticed Gurode wasn’t on the Ravens starting line (as a guard or anything). Is he hurt? Didn’t he just sign a 1-yr deal with them? Could we send him a bouquet of roses?!?!
Jason is planning something....
Just look at him…
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Your first analysis was better.
We’re projected to start Jenkins, a couple of fifth round picks, and an undrafted FA in the secondary next year, none of whom have been that impressive, and you’re not drafting CB until the third round? Unless we sign a quality CB in free agency, you’d be pissing away the 2012 season. How many years are left in Romo’s window?
Ratliff
I know it’s been discussed before, so forgive me if I’m creating bandwidth redundancy, but just to revisit the topic: is there, or will there be, serious discussion of moving Ratliff to DE?
In addition to perhaps increasing Rat’s longevity, this could perhaps be a creative way of addressing the pass rush, and perhaps reducing scrutiny of Anthony Spencer if the team decides to keep him around.
Maybe sprinkle in some extra Victor Butler, and you’ve improved the pass rush enough to justify focusing first on the secondary and/or O-Line in free agency/the draft.
by Alan Smithee on Jan 20, 2012 9:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
+1
I’m hoping with this draft that he’s talking about we’d already have the NT situation settled. Hopefully Paul Soliai or something cuz not going NT till possibly the 7th round is not too smart. Ratliff needs to move to DE and we’d better have a replacement in the works or something.
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
kffl just posted a thing that Jason G. said we might switch to a 4-3
someone must have asked him about it and then made it sound like he was saying it.
I think having the flex to be able to do that from time to time is a good option.
He spoke about the fact that Rob uses a lot of 4-3 looks.
And that it was a possibility if the personnel suited it. I think Rob’s approach is not just pure 3-4, but to use whatever works.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
If so...
I’d chalk seasons to come upto rebuilding for awhile…
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
Whenever you talk draft
you HAVE to include strategy. BPA, VORP, Need based . . . which is it?
I’ve always been an advocate of BPA at a bonafide need. In other words, you identify the teams greatest needs and then you draft the guy who’s the best available at one of those needs. Which brings me to team needs of which mine are slightly different. They are CB, FS, OLB, DE, G/C, ILB, QB, KR/PR, WR3, P and NT (of which the first 3 positions listed are DIRE needs).
As far as strategy goes, I want the DIRE needs met with higher picks but the specific prospect that is selected in the each of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds depends on who’s available. One caviot: if DeCastro’s available, I consider him too talented to pass. But if it’s not him, then who is – Ingram? Quinn? Coples? Still?
My big board is (in order):
Luck, Kalil, Richardson, Griffin, Claiborne, Blackmon, DeCastro, Kuechly, Reiff, Ingram, Upshaw and Martin. Those are the ONLY guys I consider worthy of 14th overall pick – so if they’re all gone, then I trade down (yes, I have Barron and DreKirk as 2nd rounders but EARLY 2nd rounders). But, if any of the guys above are there at 14, then I take them; I consider all of them too talented to pass on (even Blackmon and Richardson which aren’t really positions of need). If not, then I trade down. The question is, how far.
The next group of guys on my big board are for a 15-25 overall pick selection. Depending on how far the trade down is will determine what additional pick will be added. Trading down anywhere to like 18th would mean an additional 5th or possibly 4th. 19-23rd could net an additional 3rd. I would accept nothing less an additional 2nd for a trade down to 24th or 25th. The big board for the next group is:
Coples, DreKirk, Janoris Jenkins, Dennard, Barron, Konz, Glenn, Poe, Perry, Floyd, Worthy and Mercilus.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 PM CST reply actions
DeCastro? Really?
The BIGGER needs at this time are on the DEFENSIVE side of the ball! By swapping sides with Smith and Free they can make a LOT of headway towards shoring up the Oline. It WASN’T the OFFENSE that blew double digit leads! NOR, is there any NEED to draft a QB; McGee did as well as anyone could have expected from a THIRD STRING QB. Especially given what little blocking he got! Nor, will there be any shortage of F/A QB’s who can be brought in THROUGH THE SEASON IF NEEDED.
The first 3 rounds should be used on the defense whether they take a pass rusher or DB with the first pick. After that they can look for depth and take BPA. Oh, and after the pot bust Kirkpatrick could still be there in the 4th round!
GO COWBOYS! GET SOME BIG D! AH-OOO-AH!
by Howleyesque on Jan 21, 2012 12:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh Yes
And the “pass rusher” I’d TAKE with that first pick? MASSAQUOI from? TROY, He looks like he’s going to be the NEXT D. Ware!
GO COWBOYS! GET SOME BIG D! AH-OOO-AH!
by Howleyesque on Jan 21, 2012 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
keeping Romo alive is the biggest need
so that makes DeCastro the obvious pick
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 21, 2012 7:05 AM CST up reply actions
Yes DeCastro
There’s no guarantee that “swapping” Free and Smith produces any better results – there are still lots of great pass rushers on the left side (Kerrigan, Calais Campbell, Clay Matthews, etc.).
I do agree, the needs are primarily on the defensive side but fans just want the “best pass rusher that’s available” while ignoring the limitations of the people that are available. Each draft features some positions that are stacked – while others are just mediocre. Does anyone honestly see any game-changing pass rushers (LT, Matthews, Ware) types in this class? Are there any elite CBs beside Claiborne (and Jenkins who is a character risk)?
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 21, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
you gotta go BPA.
And I hate the idea of taking a guard in the first round . But if he there and he checks out then you take him plug and play and just pretend that you didn’t have a first round choice.
With DeCastro you plug and play the need is gone he goes to the pro bowl every year .
I wish there was a BPA at another position but that is not in the cards this year.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 23, 2012 3:29 AM CST up reply actions
sort of Relevent to the discussion here
I was Looking around NFLDraftScout.com….as they have all the positions ranked individually….Here is what I found out:
According to Draft Scout
There are about 21 Players that are “solid 1st round Talent” and 17 that are “borderline 1st rounders” Here is the Breakdown by position(borderline 1st ):
SS-1(0)
FS-0(0)
CB-3(1)
OLB-2(1)
ILB-1(1)
DT-2(3)
DE-2(2)
OG-1(1)
0T-3(1)
C-1(0)
WR-2(2)
TE-0(2)
RB-1(1)
QB-2(2)
If this is Correct then There should be First round talent untill ~ pick #38… just something to keep in mind
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 21, 2012 8:52 AM CST reply actions
np
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 21, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Finally some statistical sense
Ironman- I have been preaching what you just posted, SO THANKS! The article stated that this is considered to be a deep CB draft. YES, DEEPLY AVERAGE! Very average. The prospects, other than Claiborne, all have some issue. I have heard a lot of Kirkpatrick banter and he lacks elite speed. I’m sorry but 4.49, that’s .001 from 4.5, IS NOT elite. IMO elite is 4.42-4.38 or better. All the rest of the CBs have similar issues. Either too slow or too small. Using Kirkpatrick again, he has elite size 6-1 195 and solid physicality. In comparison Janoris Jenkins is 5-10 185 4.46, with character concerns. To me, once again average. Sadly, he might have the best raw coverage skills of the bunch. The reason we have CB issues now is because this has been the pattern for several years. As Ironman pointed out, 21 solid 1st rds, then 17 borderline. Ratings don’t rate, say 1-9 then go to 37th. Point is 10-36 might be overrated. Picking 14th is prime bust territory, unless a bluechip falls in your lap. I’m for moving down unless the bluechip falls. Give me an extra 2nd or 3rd. Picking 22th to 32th is fine with me. Say someone like Dontari Poe at 27th. Then come back with 2CBs in the 2nd and 3rd, with gained picks from moving down. No QB to develop please in any round. BTW, Kellen Moore will NEVER play in the NFL.
I’M going on record here and now for not being sold on DeCastro as being the player he is hyped to be.
just to be clear Faniva
those time at Draft scout are merely estimates….Example they had Prince, who ran a 4.3 at the combine last year, estimated at 4.5…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 21, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
No one has had a single knock on DeCastro that I have been able to find
usually there is something.
Oh and PFF said Spencer rushed the passer 403 times and ware 477 times in 2011
So that is BS about Spencer rushing the passer a lot less. So he does suck rushing the passer.
One thing also guys
No way Jerruh wants anything to do with even a POSSIBLE drug guy after Hurd so recently
Which Means Dre Kirkpatrick
Is DEFINITELY “off the radar”. (Besides, how stupid can you be; to get busted for pot with the draft coming up?)
GO COWBOYS! GET SOME BIG D! AH-OOO-AH!
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