Mocking The Cowboys Draft: What To Do With The No. 14 Pick?
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 21, 2012 12:00 PM CST
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As a predictor of which players are going to which teams, mock drafts aren't particularly accurate. Somebody here said last year your best bet would be to wait until Rick Gosselin from the Dallas Morning News releases his mock two days before the actual draft - but where's the fun in that?
For those of us who enjoy talking about the draft, mock drafts can still be a lot of fun regardless, as they can give us a general sense for where a player fits on the draft boards. But as an indicator of exactly which player goes to which team, they're hardly accurate, especially not at this time of the year.
What we do know is that there will be a lot of good candidates for the Cowboys to choose from once they're on the clock with the 14th pick. In fact, there are so many options that outside of early fan favorite David DeCastro, no other player has emerged as a clear-cut favorite for the Cowboys yet.
That is a situation that should suit the Cowboys just fine: At about this time last year, Stephen Jones said the Cowboys are going to follow a BPA approach:
"We're going to take the best player that's available when it comes time for us to pick. I know that's the old saying that people get tired of hearing about, but that's what we need to do with this team. You never know who is going to be injured and who is not going to work out from year-to-year, so you just need to take good football players, and that's what we're going to do."
For now, it's too early to tell with any degree of certainty what the Cowboys will do with their 14th pick. But that won't stop us from looking at who some selected mockers like for the Cowboys this week.
Draftcountdown.com, 1/20/2012: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama.
It was another disappointing season for the Cowboys and the organization will have to go back to the drawing board to try and figure out why the team continues to underachieve. One area where an upgrade is called for is cornerback since Terence Newman is overpaid and past his prime.
Alabama’s Dre Kirkpatrick is a tall, rangy cover guy who isn’t afraid to hit and also played in what is essentially a pro style system under Nick Saban in college. With that said, Kirkpatrick isn’t the elite, shutdown corner that some have made him out to be and is probably more of a mid first round value than a top ten pick. Kirkpatrick also has some off-the-field concerns following an arrest in mid-January, but that isn’t the type of thing that will scare off Jerry Jones.
Dallas could also use a safety like Mark Barron of Alabama or perhaps even an outside linebacker such as Alabama’s Courtney Upshaw or South Carolina’s Melvin Ingram since Anthony Spencer is going to be a free agent. After using a first round pick on an offensive lineman for the first time in two decades last year, don’t be shocked if Jones tries it once again with Stanford OG David DeCastro.
SportingNews.com, 1/20/2012: Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina.
With Anthony Spencer likely to leave as a free agent, the Cowboys have to find a player who can rush the passer effectively opposite DeMarcus Ware.
Drafttek.com, 1/19/2012: David DeCastro, G, Stanford.
The pipe dream was fun while we smoked it, but this week CB Kirkpatrick is a top ten pick and there is quite a drop-off in talent to Dennard . . . thus, it's the "People's Choice" Stanford's David DeCastro, the #1 OG in this year's draft class. DeCastro is smart, athletic and possesses a mean streak. The interior of the Cowboy OL definitely needs an upgrade, as the youth conversion project continues.
New OC/OL coach Bill Callahan has his OT bookends in Smith and Free but if OG Montrae Holland (UFA) shows up overweight again, the roll call includes the oft-injured Kyle Kosier, Derrick Dockery (UFA), David Arkin (last year's 4th round selection who the coaches say needs to get stronger?) and Bill Nagy (last year's 7th round selection who did not start at Wisconsin due to his affinity for riding scooters) to line up either side of centers Costa and Kowalski. Will Dallas invest yet another 1st round choice on the OL? Looks to me like they have to!
Football's Future, 1/16/2012: Devon Still, DL, Penn St.
There was a lot of talk centered around the Cowboys interest in JJ Watt last year at this time, but they went with Tyron Smith instead. This year, the need is still there, and Still would fill that role nicely with his size and ability to control gaps.
FanSpeak.com: 1/16/2012: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
The Cowboys could definitely look to upgrade their defensive backfield with this pick, but I think the Cowboys could look to splurge and take an impact lineman with this pick. Their defensive line is pretty solid right now, but they lack an impact 3-4 end in the mold of a Justin Smith. Brockers could be that, as he is an incredible disruptive force and could even be a better end than last year star rookie J.J. Watt.
Dallas Cowboys Mock Draft overview (min. two rounds deep)
| 1st Round | 1st Round | 2nd Round | 3rd Round | 4th Round | 5th Round | 6th Round |
| Drafttek (1/19) | David DeCastro, G, Stanford | Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina |
Trevor Gruyton, DE, California |
Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State | Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, DT, Baylor | Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia |
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Draftsite (1/18) |
Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska | Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington | Bruce Irvin, DE, West Virginia | Darron Thomas, QB, Oregon | Duke Ihenacho, S, San Jose State | Ryan Miller, OG, Colorado |
| Walter Football (1/18) | David DeCastro, G, Stanford | Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama | Kendall Reyes, DE/DT, Connecticut | Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State | ||
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FanSpeak.com (1/16) |
Michael Brockers, DT, LSU | Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina | Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin | Keenan Robinson, OLB Texas | Robert Blanton, CB, Notre Dame | Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin |
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Sideline Scholars (1/16) |
Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina | Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson | Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa |
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If we don't get Poe and we could get Baptiste in the 4th that would be sweet.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 21, 2012 12:07 PM CST reply actions
Walter Football
getting both DeCastro and Jenkins would be a dream come true. Brewster is a good Center prospect as well.
"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 21, 2012 12:08 PM CST reply actions
we have an in with paul pasqualoni
regarding kendall reyes
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
whats the skinny on Kendall ?
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
I mean Garrett and Co. Will have inside info on him.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Janoris Jenkins will not be there at 45 . . .
Kendall Reyes won’t be there at 82 . . . and Brewster won’t be there at 113 . . . but as long as we’re smokin’ hopium with Walter Football, what about this draft?
Andrew Luck at #14
Morris Claiborne at #45
Courtney Upshaw at #82
David DeCastro at #113
Peter Konz at #144
Dontari Poe at #175
And we’ll trade our 7th round choice for Carl Nicks
Now how’s that for “mocking” Walter Football??? LOL!
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
by Long Ball on Jan 21, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
smokin' hopium
line of the offseason thus far
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Be real KD.
We drink that kool aid all year long then when the games start and we’re not doing as well we get over frustrated when in reality we should all know what’s going on.
Melvin Ingram...
hey, I'd just never heard that phrase before
I like it and you can’t change my mind :D
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Ok, I just gotta ask
WTF is Hopium? I think I know what Opium is – is hopium something like opium w/ a hydrogen atom added to take the user even higher…
(I can hear the music now. . .higher, Higher, HIGHER!!!)
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 21, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
a guy with
Too much hope!
Like on hope-pium
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
I thought it was pretty obvious
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I'm an idiot
but I kinda like the opium + hydrogen (I guess I’m a nerd too).
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 21, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
No, it took guts
to ask.
Sometimes there are only sight differences between the extremes.
For example, there is only a slight difference between being “Gullible”, and being “Open-Minded.”
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
Often the difference
being “Experience”
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
Hopium
I agree – best quote to date. (I’ll have to use that one at work…)
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 22, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
You're over-thinking it Tyrone!!
Actually it took me a little while too….
Don't believe everything you think.
Not the column for "realist fan".
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
I didn't realize that Luck was a CB
Just remember, if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. ~Author Unknown
Well if you look at the mock draft all together...
There’s not too many wild picks. There’s a few WRs that go earlier than I’d expect them to go, especially given this year’s FA class and Weeden goes in the 3rd, but other than that most of the picks are pretty justifiable. Given that a draft borad never exactly follows any or even the consensus big boards that are out there I’d say the Walter Football mock is justifiable even if it’s extremely Cowboys friendly. Besides, Reyes has his fair share of warts. He needs to learn a few things, and a 3rd round pick is about where he should go. Brewster’s projected as a 3rd/4th round prospect as is. I think too many people fell in love with him too quickly at MTD, so I’d say you’re definitely wrong there. You’re right about Jenkins. He’s a great talent despite his character flaws and spending a year against D2 competition, but all the picks made ahead of him are justifiable, AND he does have some serious concerns about his size, character, and not playing against top shelf competition this year.
What group of mock drafts wouldn't be complete
Without Michael Brockers? Now people are saying he’s going to be Justin Smith?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 12:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
wellllll
Their defensive line is pretty solid right now, but they lack an impact 3-4 end in the mold of a Justin Smith. Brockers could be that, as he is an incredible disruptive force and could even be a better end than last year star rookie J.J. Watt.
Not Justin Smith but disruptive like him.
"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 21, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
how many years has brockers been a starter with good stats ?
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
he's a redshirt sophomore
so he doesn’t have a lot of production
by kitten mittens on Jan 21, 2012 3:04 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
that's what i was thinking, there's no way id draft em in the 1st then hehehe
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
that's exactly my point
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Darron Thomas is garbage
He is not a QB the Boys need to target. I’ve seen a lot of him.
The Boys will target Moore and Wilson in the late rounds.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 12:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Drew Brees is barely 6 ft tall
Moore is 6 ft, and Wilson is 5’11. Not much difference in height between 6ft and 5’11
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's fine, but I still wouldn't draft a short QB.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
You are right
Moore is 6 ft, and Wilson is 5’11. Not much difference in height between 6ft and 5’11
They are both too small.
Just remember, if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. ~Author Unknown
Is Drew Brees too small at 6ft?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Brees is an elite talent
QBs with arms and eyes like that are exceptions to the general rule of QB size, Drew Brees takes sh*ts that are better QBs than Moore and Wilson. Lets not compare two guys who might not even make it out of training camp to a Hall of Famer okay? You’re smarter than this Roh.
Drew Brees
Wasn’t an elite arm, and doesn’t have elite size. Braes has worked on his arm strength since coming to the NFL, and especially since going to the Saints.
Kellen Moore is the same height. Kellen Moore, has a quick release, and pin point accuracy, and throws a very nice ball which is easy to catch. The guy also brings intangibles to the table, which can’t be denied. I’m not advocating Kellen Moore as a 1st or 2nd Rd pick, but I do believe the guy can be an NFL starter, quality backup depending on the team that goes to.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Dude...
Brees had a way better college career than Moore. He played in a pro style offense and tore up the Big 10 record book, he was the 32nd pick in the draft too. He’s become a lot better QB than what he was in college, yeah, all great QBs make improvements at the NFL level. Just don’t use someone who’s HoF bound to justify taking an unconventional player. Nor am I trying to say that Kellen Moore CAN’T be a good QB, just that using Brees as an example is bad reasoning.
A couple things
Drew Brees’ College stats:
1,026 completions/1,678 attempts 11,792 yards, 90 TD passes
Kellen Moore’s college stats
1,157 completions/1,658 attempts 14,657 yards 142 TD passes (only 28 INTs) career passer rating of 169
According to performance, I’d say statistically Moore had a better college career than Drew Brees. At a minimum, one cannot with a straight face say Drew Brees “had a way better college career than Moore.”
Kellen Moore is the winningest QB in college football, and has won big games, see his performance against Georgia this year, against VaTech in 2010, against Oregon in 2009 and 2008. He also won a BCS Bowl (Fiesta Bowl Jan 2010).
I’m not diminishing anything Brees has done in the NFL or in College by saying Kellen Moore compares to Drew Brees in terms of height. I brought up Drew Brees’ name because people above were saying he’s too small to play QB, and then you said he doesn’t have a great arm. People said they wouldn’t draft Kellen Moore because he’s 6 ft tall. So I asked, would you pass on Drew Brees whose also only 6 ft tall? If Brees is a bad example, who should I use? Stephen McGee?
Btw, you calling Kellen Moore an unconventional player suggests you’ve barely watched him play.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
A few things...
Kellen Moore played against weaker competition than Brees played against and in a far different offense. Maybe the word “better” wasn’t the right word to use, I should have said his college career was more indicative of an NFL QB than Moore’s. Moore played in an odd offense, and those typically don’t produce NFL QBs. Brees was a far different player and probably shouldn’t be compared to Moore.
As far as Kellen Moore? If they take him in the 6th or 7th round I don’t think the decision deserves that much scrutiny. If they take him in the 7th but Broyles is there I might be a lil mad, but I wouldn’t care too much. I mean honestly, how many 6th or 7th rounders make it past camp, let alone do anything? Why not gamble on a player like Moore? If it’s a 4th or a 5th…ehhh wouldn’t like it. If someone’s hassling you over a 6th or a 7th round pick it’s on them, not on you.
As far as comps go, I think a reasonable best case scenario for Moore is Billy Volek, career back up, good enough to start for a team like the Redskins but better suited as a back up.
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
How many Boise St games have you seen?
Moore didn’t play in some gimmicky offense. He played in a pro style offense similar to Wisconsin.
I’ve watched a ton of Boise St games the last 4 years. it’s not a gimmick offense like the one Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton ran purely using the shot gun spread, or a gimmicky Pistol Offense like Collin Kaepernick, or a gimmicky offense like the one used in Oregon.
Bringing up the competition argument is a joke because Andy Dalton played in the Mountain West, came into the NFL, without rookie mini camp, without OTA’s and led his team to the playoffs his first season.
Kellen Moore has defeated Oregon, Georgia, and Virginia Tech in what qualified as road games. When Boise St played against BCS schools he played well, and won his games. It’s not his fault more BCS schools wouldn’t play his.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Just a handfull (mainly the nationally televised ones) and the highlights on ESPN
And please, “Andy Dalton had a good rookie year and played in the Mountain West…therefore the competition argument doesn’t work.” C’mon man! You’re better than that…just because one guy did it doesn’t mean that the argument has no merit at all or that everyone can make the same jump and experience the same amount of success.
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
And you're better than
Oh, I just watched a few highlights, and a couple ESPN games, so now I’m an expert on Kellen Moore and he reminds me of Billy Volek.
All I know from all the games I’ve watched, is Kellen Moore is a winner, and plays well in big games, and in crunch time. He wasn’t a product of some gimmick offense either.
Let’s just agree to disagree on this and call it a day cause this back and forth isn’t proving anything, and won’t settle anything.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Touche'
I probably watched eight or ten Boise State Games, and I never claimed to be an expert on Kellen Moore, nor did I say that he reminds me of Billy Volek, just that Volek’s probably a reasonable best case scenario for a QB like Moore. Not that that’s a bad thing either…I’m pretty sure most people here would love to have Volek as the back up QB.
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
I dont think this is fair
I’ve watched alot of Moore’s games and to say he is career backup is not giving him the credit he is due. Give him the Tim we gave McGee and see how he looks I don’t think it matters anyways once this o line and defense gets fixed I bet we trade up and get our qb of the future but if giving up on McGee is the route to go then take Moore he has the potential if he can make the next step with the same transition he did into college.
by Sado44 on Jan 22, 2012 10:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
well said
let the Eagles or Redskins play around with a midget QB
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Couldn't agree more...
Darron Thomas would not have been a QB in any other system, and only looked halfway decent because of scheme and two future NFL running backs.
Drafttek and Walterfootball
Have the two mockdrafts I like.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 12:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You didn't put my choice in the poll.
Chia!
He’s as reliable as those guys (remember who was pushing Tyron last year).
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
lol good looks
I dont have a mock out yet
but ChiaCrack radio 3pm eastern, taking some calls today
fanshot link is up
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
give us some late round qbs the boys should consider
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
thats a good one
ok ok
call in if you want too
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm kinda of shy when it comes to talking to celebrities.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
come on my dude
I am a cool celeb, like like like like Russell Brand or something
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
So we have to get you to the Greek?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 1:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
You divorced Katie Perry?
That qualifies you as a fool :)
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
she left me!
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Caught him messing around...
…with Shay
"They say that life's a carousel, Spinning fast, you've got to ride it well The world is full of Kings and Queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams. It's Heaven and Hell"
Brest string of comments in a while
er. Breast…crap! Best.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
so, you're a Cowboy messiah...
And you’re sex addict who’d leave Katy Perry? I call Bullcrap!
He's good, but he's no Danny White!
a couple guys stood out
Jarius Wright is blazing fast, the guard from Cal PA Rishaw Johnson I thought looked pretty good, there is a RT from Southern Mississippi too and Akiem Hicks looked real good
the WR from Cal PA, Mayo had a good game
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
The Hogs are going to miss Wright.
And Adams, etc, etc lol.
You hadn't heard?
He and Jerry have a show together.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
yup
blogtalkradio.com/chiacrack
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
gratz Chia on your talk show
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
thanks
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 22, 2012 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
posted your show up on FB wall , maybe that will help on numbers )
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Easy there Tom . . .
I had Tyron long before Chia last year . . . I’ve even got his e-mail to me asking more about him.
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
lol really?
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
LOL, how's it shakin' Chia?
Been knee-deep in Big Board, editing CMD comments and trying to get the ODS to behave . . . and thought I would take a break and rattle your chain.
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
if I may LongBall
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 21, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
THAT Long Ball. Gotcha.
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm growing impatient, Long Ball
Just kidding, but I am eagerly awaiting an updated big board, and I see that you updated the draft order in the ODS in the last two games.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 4:00 AM CST up reply actions
all good bro
chilling, draft time so its a bust season for guys like us
how you been?
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 22, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
busy
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 22, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
When it's all said and done
The Cowboys pick will be Nick Perry. I expect him to be linked heavily with the Boys in the coming months.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 21, 2012 12:21 PM CST reply actions
Perry is going to blow up at the Combine
Best combination of potential and production for the Boys at 14
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 21, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
I have no opinion on still
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree 100% on not taking Perry.
The most important “group” in the NFL is not LB’s, its not DB’s, it is not DL….
It is the Offensive Line. You have to be able to Run the Ball and protect the QB.
In this new NFL, all you need is an average Defense, and a great offense. The top teams this year were/are the ones that can put a lot of points on the board.
New England, Giants, Packers, Saints. The 49ers are an abboration and should loose to NE if they get past the Giants because all you need on Defense is to just keep the other guys defense on the field all the time.
Pick DeCastro FIRST!!!!!!
And then pick which of the other positions we need help with based upon which ones have the least amount of picks….in other words the inverse of depth at the other positions. IMHO!!!!
Get Carl Nicks and DeCastro, and then focus the rest of the draft and Free Agency on Defense.
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
The OLINE keeps your QB upright
and opens holes for RB.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Again, I would like to
point out that the depth of positions in the draft is the KEY to the strategy of getting value.
For example, if there are only 5 Rush Linebackers in the draft that are above a B+, and there are 30 Offensive linemen that are all above a B+, then the first pick might have to be a Rush Linebacker.
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
"new NFL"
Ok when did the NFL become new again and who took the old one? I miss the old NFL, we had 5 blings then. This new NFL sucks.
Wade just went out for donuts, think he'll share?
by AlanK on Jan 21, 2012 8:26 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well look at it this way
The Eagles sucked in both but we’ve swapped the Skins sucking for the Giants sucking.
We ought to go BPA.
If DeCastro is BPA then we ought to go for him
But no how no way do we draft for need.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
This^^^.
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Searching for at least 2 more Super Bowl wins and more kool-aid.
Totally excited about new coaches and this teams future.
by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 22, 2012 1:58 AM CST up reply actions
I dont like the BPA
saying…..
What if the BPA is a running back, do you take him if there is a DB that is 99.9 % as good as that Running Back? I dont think so.
What if the BPA is a QB, do we take him even though a DB, Rush Linebacker and O-Lineman is more important and just one pick below him. No! You can trade down and hope that you get your man, but sometimes you can miss out on the guy you want by doing that.
Do both…..Take the BPA that fits your needs if the picks are close in value.
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
What if the BPA is a QB, do we take him even though a DB, Rush Linebacker and O-Lineman is more important and just one pick below him
Yes , that is exactly what did not happen when the Cowboys passed up Joe Montana. The Cowboys got a good player Doug Cosbie , but Doug Cosbie is not in the HOF.
This happens to be a good year for guards , but if there weren’t any would you force the selection. Lets say that DeCastro was taken at 10 Peter Konz at 11 would you force the pick and take Kevin Zeltner at 14?
BPA give a team the best chance to avoid JAGS.
JAGs are almost the same as busts.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 7:15 AM CST up reply actions
Well they make their boards accordingly
Their is a vertical rank and an horizontal rank. Pretty complex but the position of need is weighed in to that. So if BPA truly is a RB then they no doubt should take him.
Isn’t that how we ended up with Carter and Murray?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
good point
they are much better than last weeks
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
OCC, for the mock draft contest you should post a poll of all the mocks that turned green
because some posted their mocks later than others, then all the readers can vote in the poll on all the mock drafts at the same time.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
thats a good idea
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
There are too many mocks to take a vote on all. I’ll profile the mocks with the most rec’s, and I might exercise my dicretionary powers and pick a couple that didn’t get enough rec’s. Then I’ll put them to the vote.
Probably early next week.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 21, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
you like him now?
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
huh?
I never didn’t like him.
He was always in my top 3, but I saw some highlights of him. Pure athlete.
Melvin Ingram...
okay
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
who are the other 2?
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
DeCastro and Dre.
But Brockers is moving into that 3 spot shortly with the possibly available CB’s in the 2nd round.
Melvin Ingram...
Id take Kirkpatrick if he is there
but my 3
DeCastro
Ingram
Brockers
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
yup same guys I like
Brockers is really growing on me
gonna talk about him today a lot
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Me to too,Chia. Decastro has always been my pick but,
Wes has a 8.0 grade on Brockers! With both being blue chip players,I would take Brockers over Decastro.I have argued for Decastro because there were no other defensive blue chippers at #14.If Brockers is there at #14,that is my pick.If not Decastro is my pick and I am looking at the Hamilton kid out of Mizzou later on.
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Searching for at least 2 more Super Bowl wins and more kool-aid.
Totally excited about new coaches and this teams future.
by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 21, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Brockers
Is a tweener DE/DT. Too much project/developmental time for him. I wouldn’t waste a 14th on him. It’s like drafting a Euro forward whose close to 7 ft but plays like a small forward, in the lottery of the NBA draft. Too much uncertainty, as to whether or not those guys will be the next Dirk.
Too much uncertainty as to whether or not Brockers can turn into Watt or Justin Smith at DE, or become Rat at DT.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think you have to worry
From what I’m hearing, Brockers won’t make it out of the top 10.
OT, Chia (or anyone else), what your opinion on Dwight Bentley(CB from LA-Lafayette)? He’s another guy I’ve heard may sneak into the 3rd round. I’ve seen this kid play a number of times, and he’s a helluva player. I’m guessing his Senior Bowl and combine performances will ultimately decide his draft position, but if you don’t know anything about him, check him out. We could do a lot worse than him in the 3-4 round. ULL has been pretty productive as far as churning out NFL DBs (former Vikings Orlando Thomas and Todd Scott, current players Charles Tillman (Bears), Ike Taylor (Steelers), CC Brown (Giants?), Michael Adams (Cardinals)), and at the same point in their careers, Bentley is every bit as good as any of them. I think Tillman (who’s in the Pro Bowl this year) was the highest drafted of them all though. He went in the 2nd.
by sportsfanatic21 on Jan 21, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Wtf, Brockers (pre-combine) is a top 10 pick?
What am I failing to see here?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
What you're failing to see
is potential being valued more highly than production.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 4:04 AM CST up reply actions
too much risk with him
we’re not a team who can afford that risk with the no.14 pick.
what do you think OCC?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 7:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I am not a strong believer in magic.
I can’t say that I’ve watched Brockers play – I didn’t notice him in the few LSU games I saw this year. I am however intrigued that people are comparing him with J.J. Watt.
But Watt had 11.5 sacks and 36 TFL in 26 games, Brockers has 2 sacks and 11 TFL in 27 games.
Unless you have a very good explanation for why Brockers’ purported potential never materialized in college (I haven’t heard one yet) there is no reason to expect that potential to magically appear at the NFL level.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
That's my opinion as well
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 12:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not trying to argue with you but Wes has Brockers as his #1 ranked DT and CBS has him at #2 DT.
Don’t know what you know on the subject Rohpuri,but Wes is raving about Brockers and most others have him really high.I go by what Bunting and Mayock say,have only watched LSU twice this year(one being the BCS Champ game). JMHO,but if we can land Brockers at #14 it would be a steal.
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Searching for at least 2 more Super Bowl wins and more kool-aid.
Totally excited about new coaches and this teams future.
by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 22, 2012 1:57 AM CST up reply actions
Where's Upshaw for you?
I guess same question to DC and the board.
Mine’s probably:
DeCastro, Dre, Bockers, Ingram. I think Ingram might be too big to play the SLB, and might have to move to the end, which I think that he can do, so I’d still like to have him on the squad.
yeah Ingram is too big for olb and brockers hasnt shown me enough in just one year
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Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
prob is Ingram is a lil too light to play DE for the boyz
to me Ingram is a tweener, too heavy to play fast olb to light to play DE in 3-4 , but that’s just my view … hehhh
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
He's still what? 22
Clay Matthews put on 20 pounds after the combine and before his Rookie season. He can put on the necessary weight to play DE. He’s a big guy, it’s easier for guys that big to put on weight usually.
matthews plays OLB
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So?
Players can still put on weight to fit the position. I think that he might be too big to play OLB and he may have to switch to DE…I don’t see why he can’t get a little bigger to play DE at the NFL level.
I think he'll actually have to drop weight
Down to the 260s. That’s how Wes Bunting sees it, because he projects more as a 3-4 OLB.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe...
Who knows maybe he’s good enough to be 270 and an OLB. Either way, I think if you draft him you probably can find a place for him, whether that means we should get excited about taking him at 14, I’m not sure.
I'm not a 100% sold
On the idea of taking Ingram at 14, when Perry is still there, Mercilus will be in the first rd, and then in round 2 you could get a guy like Curry, Massaquoi, or Irvin.
Interestingly, Perry, Curry, Massaquoi, and Irvin had better sack production than Ingram for their careers.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
If we draft him, we should be able to find a place for him. But 14 might be a bit high. The combine will give us a better picture.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I found a good 3-4 comparison for Ingram
Tamba Hali, he’s 6’3" 275 and plays OLB for the Chiefs. And he ran a 40 in the 4.8 range.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mario Williams
Is 283, not 290. And He struggled playing OLB, he wasn’t happy moving to OLB. I think he’s going to a 4-3 team so he can play with his hand on the ground.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The point is
that you don’t necessarily have to be in the 260 range to play OLB. Especially on the strong side.
by TheCowboyWay on Jan 21, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
True
Tamba Hali is having doing fine playing 3-4 OLB at 275
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
he may not have been happy about it Roh
but to say he struggled isn’t completely correct…The Biggest issue was the change from being on the line to off it, and the snap of the ball…however He was getting that corrected….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
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by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 21, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
fair point
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually he was doing well at OLB cause he was rushing on almost every down.
He can’t cover but it doesn’t matter.
If he is your OLB then you are playing a 4-3
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
He's also the size of Lamarr Woodley
by Prime Time on Jan 21, 2012 6:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Woodley 6'2" 265
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 6:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Too big?
He reminds me of a more athletic LaMarr Woodley, at least in terms of size.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
well
Woodley is 6’2" 265
Ingram is 6’2 278
The more accurate comparison is Tamba Hali, whose 6’3" 275
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I like Ingram but two things concern me
1) his weight in the 270s-280 range
2) him potentially running a 40 in the 4.8 range which is really low for a 3-4 pass rusher at OLB
If we take him, we might have to switch him to END and use him like JJ Watt.
Or maybe we can go swiss army with him.
All I know is, I won’t be mad if we take Ingram. But I will throw a b**** fest if Brockers is the guy.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Don't let the 40 time sway you
Look at the 3 cone and 10 yard sprint numbers
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Good point.
I also want to see his verticle jump
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, he's got game speed
He looks faster during the games
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
One great play
Hell Julius Jones had a couple of great games! Lets not overstate the importance of one play, much like we shouldn’t overstate the importance of one workout.
Another good point
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I mean don't get me wrong...
He has the potential to make great plays, but still…don’t be all, HE IS ATHLETIC HE MADE ONE GREAT PLAY!!!!! Spencer’s had his moments, remember that clutch strip sack of Grossman? Lets make him the highest paid defender in the league! Not trying to say he isn’t good, just that pointing to the TD return to justify his athleticism and skill is pretty dumb.
Ingram reminds me of Tamba Hali
Hali 6’3" 275, while Ingram is 6’2" 278
Hali ran a 4.87 40 at the combine; Ingram projects to run a 4.8 40
If Ingram can out up Tamba Hali production in his first 6 years (348 tackles, 55 sacks, 22 Forced Fumbles) it would be a great pick at 14.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
thats a solid 3
my pick would be replacing Spencer with Ingram but any of those 3 would help this team.
theres a ton of CBs in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th round range that could really help this secondary
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
same build as tamba hali
if Ingram has a first 6 years like Hali while playing opposite Ware, wow.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Isnt curry a second round pick
So like issue before but fa tells more than anything but wouldn’t a trade down so we can get Poe and two seconds like curry and maybe even still Gilmore. And o line in the 3rd that would leave us sign Elam for 1 year Finn. And free agent o line we could be set.
by Sado44 on Jan 21, 2012 1:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Scenario
Say we sign Nicks or Grubbs in FA.
If Claiborne is available at 5 would you package the picks to move up and get him? The guy could be one of the best CB’s in the NFL in a couple years.
Too many good corners. Don't need to trade up.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 1:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Really
Because I count only 3 elite cb prospects…. The rest are guys, care to share what other cb is great but can’t make it in rd 1?
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 1:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Here are my guys
Chase Minniefield (from Virginia), Josh Chapman (from UCF), Josh Norman (Coastal Carolina), Cliff Harris (Oregon), Keith Tandy (West Virgina).
That’s 5 guys at CB not listed as first round prospects I like.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
add shaun prater of iowa to my list of non-1st rd CBs
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
you're probably thinking of the guy who used to play for dallas
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No. Thinking of the guy driving 100 mph
with weed in his car that played for Oregon. I just thought he was a safety, and not a corner.
by sportsfanatic21 on Jan 21, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
He was supposed to be one of the very best CB's in the draft.
But there have been numerous issues off the field.
He was suspended for 3 games at the start of the year for 1 incident, then suspended again for the last 5 games for another stunt. Then he pulled another one after Thanksgiving and Oregon gave up and threw him off the team.
A noob question here,
Is there a legitimate way we could increase the number of 2nd-3rd round picks? There are a lot of guys there I like(based on CBS scouting reports) and this defense needs lots of help. Guys like gilmore, Minnifield, Markelle Martin and Shaun Prater in the secondary, along with front 7 guys like Curry, Irvin, Reyes, Massaquoi, Chapman.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
None of those
Guys helps us yr 1…. We need claiborne, janoris Jenkins or Kirkpatrick to get sn impact cb… The rest are jags… You don’t get great CBS after rd 1….
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 1:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree.
I think Martin would be an immediate upgrade at FS and either Gilmore or Minnifield would do the same at Newman’s corner spot. If Decastro is at 14, take him-if not, trade down a ways and take Poe, move Rat to DE to try to pick up Martin and Gilmore or Minnifield. Could be an upgrade at 4 spots.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
+1
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
nice you can predict the future
Jerry should invite you to the war room on draft day
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Cowboys 14th pick is easy
Take Upshaw…. Spencer showed us hes jag…. Upshaw is a fast physical Olb with all the tools… Looks like James Harrison…. If I had a 2nd choice I’d take mark Barron… We haven’t had a decent safety in 15 years…. It’s time we end that trend now….
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 1:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Agreed...
If you look at his projections about the 75th percentile for his ceiling is a rich man’s Spencer, his 100th percentile, as in EVERYTHING goes right and he reaches his absolute ceiling, is probably Greg Ellis in a good year. Not sure I want him at 14.
+1 about Upshaw
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Too slow, gets lost with blockers, takes poor angles.
Not very instinctual. Not much of an athlete, just big and strong, and very slow.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If the Boys
are staying with the 3-4 Draftek’s is the best
by Son of Pete Wright on Jan 21, 2012 2:11 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Welcome to the blog, Junior
sit back, relax and enjoy your first rec.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Walter Football
is unrealistic. Looks like a Cowboy’s fan wrote that mock. Jenkins won’t be there when we pick at 45 — there is no way. And Brewster in the 4th? I doubt he’ll make it out of the 2nd round. That being said, my sports wiener would explode if we got that haul.
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Wow
Five pretty good drafts. Walter Football’s easily the best, because that’s four starters for 2013, two high end ones and another one that has potential to do something special. Jeez…if they had that I’d have Mensa kiss JJ on the mouth.
Draftsite’s probably the second best with three players that’d see playing time in 2012, all of whom have the potential to make some serious noise on the defense. I don’t quite think that defense is the problem, I definitely think it needs to be addressed, but not to the point that they do…but that draft fixes just about all the problems on the defense. Draftek’s may be a more likely draft, they’d basically be getting two starters and they’d have some guys that’d get some PT later in the draft but probably won’t be ready to start until 2013. Which is fine, some players are worth the wait, and with the first two picks you’re getting two starters at positions of need and you’d be getting several players with a chance to get some PT their rookie year and a serious chance to contribute their sophomore season.
3 greats......
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Random, but the 3 best Runningbacks ever
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Yeah, it's too bad Sweetness is no longer alive.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You know what
At pick 175, I wouldn’t mind taking a flyer on QB BJ Coleman from Tennessee Chattanooga. He’s 6’3 235, has nice arm, makes good reads, and was schooled by Peyton Manning’s QB Coach David Cutcliffe. Watching the East-West game, and he’s looking sharp.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think the Cowboys should be thinking QB somewhere in the last three rounds.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
I agree. Btw,
Coleman so far, is 6-6 136 1TD.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Omar, he's listed as 168th pick in the big board
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I misread Tennessee Chattanooga
Thought it was just Tennessee, if that’s the case he may be around on the 7th. He’ll get a lot of talk after the Shrine Game though, he’s putting on a clinic here.
lets get mccoy from the browns.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Kellen Moore is a better QB than Colt McCoy
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Define "pretty competent"
because compared to most of his NFL peers in almost all relevant stats, I wonder why anybody would call McCoy competent. 27th in completion percentage, and passer rating, 33rd in yards per attempt. He does have a pretty low interception percentage, but that’s about it.
With McGee, we already have a guy who can dink and dunk all day, and at least McGee can run the ball on occasion.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 4:15 AM CST up reply actions
yeah man, I um saw where you were getting them from.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
We should've had an East-West Game thread
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm watching that game and WVU 3-4 OLB Julian Miller looks like some one we should look at in the 6-7 round.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
he really is, especially seeing that he had a respectable production ratio from OCC's post earlier in the week
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yup he looked intriguing for sure
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
I got myself free a bit too late
watching it as well, but missed the first quarter
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what do you think?
From what you’ve seen so far?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Free Aceny & Terrence Newman
For those of you who haven’t already, check out my blog in the fan post area entitled “Free Agency & Terrence Newman”….I make some key points and have a few interesting idea’s on the changes the cowboys should make, but honestly I personally don’t believe vontaze burfict is a 3rd rounder, he’s much more talented than that projection though if he’s still there come the 82nd pick then we definitely should take him. Other than that I think pick 14 we should address a more important position, that being said I would first draft Kirkpatrick if he’s available, if not then next I would draft Alfonso denard(the cornerback position is a big necessity), and if not debars i’d select Quinton Coples if available(we obviously need someone else besides demarcus ware to draw some pressure on the opposing Qb), but also if not available I’d go with kuechley if that’s how you spell it(apologies) or burfict. Why not decastro? well we could really use him but offense was definitely not the problem this past season, defended was a huge problem and we should address those holes we have in our defended.
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by RioWestTV on Jan 21, 2012 3:41 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Terry you're also aboard the unproven Brockers train?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 3:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Brockers is another tweener 3-4 DT/DE
He’s a raw project. It would be the equivalent of the Knicks blowing a 1st Rd pick on Gallinari (thank god we turned it in to Melo, just need to fire Coach NO D and get better guards).
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hmm you're killing my opinion on him. haha.
Thought he can move Ratliff to the edge.
Melvin Ingram...
If you want a NT to move Ratliff to DE
Look into Dontari Poe from Memphis. 6’5" 350, he’s the ideal plugger, collapse the middle of the pocket, shut down inside running game.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
pressure up the middle & getting that QB off his mark is important for success.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
the Knicks could use some defense lol
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
he's projected hope at this point is all. he doesnt have the stats to show over a period of time like jj wattrs did .
brockers is a risk , simply from not enough time as starter. how can one know for sure how well he translates to NFL game as a soph. ?
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
+1
How people expect a guy who didn’t produce in college to produce in the NFL is beyond me… That’s how you end up with Aaron maybin and Vernon gholstons….. I hate potential cuz nobody ever lives up to it
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 4:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i hear ya there ...lol give me proven talent over 3 or 4 years any day
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Well said Drobe
Leave the Brockers project for the Chiefs, Bills, Jaguars, or other crappy teams to blow a high pick on.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And how has it worked for them?
The only Chiefs 3-4 front 7 guys I like are Tamba Hali and Derrick Johnson.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Really?
Tyrone Jackson, Kelly Gregg, and Glenn Dorsey don’t do anything for you? Jackson especially….
Tyson Jackson has been a bust.
Kelly Gregg is ok
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
He was okay this year.
Man…I recall Tyson Jackson being kinda good…looking at the PFF stats guess I was wrong.
If The NFL versions of Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey are Brockers' ceiling
I will run away as far as possible from Michael Brockers. Let someone else take him.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Yeah...
I’m kinda wafering on him. I want DeCastro.
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
waffling :)
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
I would take him the late first. If we traded down. and he was there I might take him.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
If Crick is still n the board in the late first rd
And the Cowboys had 2 first Rd picks in the 20s and 30s, I’m taking Crick.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 8:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
wasnt Dorsey the best DT/DE in that draft?
i remember all the draft guru’s being on his bandwagon
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
DeCastro or Ingram ....
but I really want Ingram! Melvin! Melvin! Melvin!
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
I Agree but I really want DeCastro!
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Shaun prater
Is a Player… And represents the rkg, I’d consider him in the 4th
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 4:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
My pet cat
keep an eye on him
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Prater is tough man
I liked how he had some swag
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Poe at #14
…but he may not even last that long if he shows up big in Indy.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Poe at 14 would be a terrific start to the draft
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not over
Kurchly, Upshaw, Ingram, or Kirkpatrick….
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 4:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Upshaw is an Anthony Spencer clone, I'll pass
I do lile Ingram, and Kirkpatrick. I don’t want Kuechkly, as we already have Lee & Carter.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Idk
What makes you say this… He has a motor, and I’ll bet anything he runs better than 4.7 come combine time…. He’s also much stronger than Spencer… He reminds me of Harrison from the steelers…
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I've seen him play
He’s not overly impressive. He gets
lost too much.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree Blings.
I took him at 14 in my 2nd mock but I could see how he would already be gone by then.
Poe is tempting but at #14 might be a bit too high.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
See, this is where I think some things about the draft are a bit "silly".
Say you have been looking for a big, talented NT for a couple or more years. Those guys aren’t easy to find that are athletic and have a good first step. They tend to move up the draft board fairly quickly after the combine.
So you are sitting at #14 like we are this year, the NT is graded at #18 say. Why would you leave someone on the board that you need and have a hard time finding a match like him. Just because of a few spots ranking? All because people say it isn’t a good “value”? Is it a good value to not get him and have to wait another year or three?
Sometimes GM’s break this and end up winning big, like the Giants did with JPP. But I really think that sometimes people get to hung up on listed draft order when in reality players graded within 10 or so spots of each other are probably almost identical in “potential”.
I guess a better example would be the people saying don't take DeCastro at #14.
Because you don’t pick G’s before #15 or better yet the 20’s.
Never say never
The historical reason for not drafting interior O linement (OGs and Cs) higher than 15 was they none deserved to receive the contract salaries associated w/ picks that high. W/ the new rookie wage scale, that argument is OBE.
Select the BPA at a position of need regardless of position. Those teams that fail to do that (because they’re picking in a spot that’s too hi regardless of how good the propspect is are doomed to mediocrity – kind of the situation Dallas is in now).
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 22, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
Actually at this time last year Taylor was being talked about as a 3rd rounder, maybe 2nd.
This guy is already being talked about as a 1st rounder. So I would expect that he is better. Taylor had issues with motor problems, etc.
No way in hell Bruce Irvin is available in the 3rd round
He will shoot up draft boards like Aldon Smith.
What is sportingnews.com smoking
Zach Brown is a best fit for 4-3 OLB and his stock has dropped so much.
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Yep, kinda stupid.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Shameless SBNation plug (even though I don't work for them haha)
Y’all should also look at Mocking the Draft…The head honcho over there, Dan Kadar, is brilliant.
Also there are mock drafts and scouting reports over there up the wazoo.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 21, 2012 5:01 PM CST reply actions
yup lol
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
why is he a jerk?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 21, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
He's always a dick to the people here.
He was mean to Terry and Chia for a bit. Rorsach posts there a lot so I guess he’s nice to Giants fans.
interesting. Never really saw that.
shrugs. He doesn’t have opinions on Giants fans either way, though I’ve never had a problem with him.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 21, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
Well I dunno what it is...
Lots of people hate Cowboys fans, which I totally get (don’t see why they don’t hate the Steelers or the Niners though, by that same token), though his site is aimed at all fans he has to appease different fan bases to keep his reader ship. I dunno if it’s as simple of guys that write for the blog have their teams and fan bases treated better or what.
case in point
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 21, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
dang
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 21, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe he pulled the stick out of his ass sometime after that...
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
lol that's a little crazy. I'm going to withold judgement of everybody
because he’s good people to me, and y’all are definitely good people. I probably shouldn’t have suggested MTD in the original comment. My bad!
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 21, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
It's an okay site with some valuable information
When it comes to the draft the more the merrier. You need a wide variety of opinions and should never disregard the opinion of anyone who has done this for a long time no matter how much of a jerk they are or how wrong they were last year. Kiper, McShay, Mayock, Bunting, and anyone who does this for a living all have valuable things to add. Some deserve more deference than others, but they’re all worth listening too. Kadar doesn’t fall into that category, but he has been doing this for a while and he’s probably worth listening to, he watches a lot of college football and followed many drafts. Yes he’s a tool, yes he sucks sometimes, but there’s still value in getting another opinion.
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree with Chia there.
Profanity is the sh*t!
by Omar Little on Jan 21, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
He also gets pissy when you criticize his posts.
I mean do you think Wes Bunting or Todd McShay give a crap if they disagree with eachother? That’s part of the process…you’re always going to be wrong on guys and right on others. You need diverse opinions.
Has Houston put the franchise tag on Mario Williams?
How much is he going to cost? Either him or try to get Nick Hardwick C.
by torchindefenses on Jan 21, 2012 5:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Won't know till March when 2012 league yr begins
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I live in Houston
and listen to sports radio. the # associated w/ franchising Mario is like $22 million (I kid you not). I have no idea why its so high.
He won’t be franchised – they’ll either sign him to a deal or he’ll walk.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 22, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
The franchise tag guarantees a player either the average of the top five salaries at his position or 120 percent of the player’s salary, whichever is greater.
The average salary of the top five linebackers is about $10 million. Williams’ current cap number is $18 million.
Since his cap number is greater than the franchise tag number, franchising Williams would mean the Texans must guarantee him 120 percent of his current salary next season, or about $21.6 million.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 23, 2012 2:06 AM CST up reply actions
Probably won't.
He’ll get $21 million or somewhere around that number for the tag. With so many other options for Houston I don’t see it.
Melvin Ingram...
Josh norman
Don’t get the hype on this kid… Hasn’t made a play all day
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 5:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions
possibly b/c they haven't thrown to his side?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Norman
Just got burnt… He reminds me of Mario butler who we already have… I’ll pass
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 5:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Norman did his job on the play
Made the WR redirect his route, and because there was no safety help, the WR caught the pass.
Mike Mayock didn’t fault Norman on that play. The safety was supposed to be there.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well....
He’s not gonna get safety help on Dallas this year either…. So he’s not a good fit… Our safeties are sorry
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 6:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
our safeties will be upgraded
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 6:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Micanor Regis
Another tweener 3-4 DT/DE to look out for in the draft. Potential mid to Late round kid. 6’2 309, had a good showing in the Shrine Game today.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
OCC - story idea
Since, as you said, mock drafts are pie-in-the-sky, how about creating our own Cowboys big board. Perhaps readers could help fill in which other teams may be interested, and after lining up the draft order, we could see who we have a realistic shot at. That is before FA. Just an idea, perhaps someone already does it this way, but it may be a new take on an old idea.
We might do a consensus mock draft this season, where the BTB community votes on each draft pick for the first and perhaps second round. But we won’t be doing a community Big Board, that’s a little too complicated.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 4:22 AM CST up reply actions
After FA?
And that would be pretty cool – I can imagine the OG vs DL/CB discussions will be pretty good.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
by Nickthegrip on Jan 22, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Before FA changes the whole Board, that is
I’m really hoping we nail down G or C in FA and that would greatly change how I’d construct a Big Board for Dallas. Unfortunately, I can’t stand to watch college football and as a result, know very little about the prospects.However, if I were making a big board, I’d start with a simple list of all-round best players and the round they belong in, then SLIGHTLY weigh them positively or negatively based on the Cowboy’s needs. It would be kinda neat to also factor in the needs of other teams, or at least our division rivals, in order to understand potential trade opportunities.
OCC, I know what you mean about complicated. Thanks for considering though.
CB Charles brown
Looks like the best cb in this game besides prater… Kid has been a shutdown corner all week…
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 5:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I like this Devin Wylie kid as a pubt returner/Slot Wr
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 5:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
+25
We haven’t had a good returner in a while… 7th round flier
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Special teams were particularly bad last year.
That, the running game, and the interior line were the biggest problems iMO.
The TE from Miami looks good too. 6'6, could be a solid 5th round pickup
by matt575 on Jan 21, 2012 6:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Ford looks like a player
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 21, 2012 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
youtube him
when he was at a JUCO, he just beasted on the talent there
I am a Miami guy, so I am biased but I would love to get him
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
I miss the U as well
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
East/ West shrine game
After watching the game im all for trading all our picks to hit home runs on our first 3 draft picks… I’d take 3 outstanding players who can make immediate impact over 1 starter and a bunch of jags… This draft is top heavy… I was pretty underwhelmed with most of the players in this game…
by drobe86 on Jan 21, 2012 7:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not the best players...
Isn’t the Shrine game a second or third rate all-star game?
anyone watch the NFLPA Bowl today?
idk they even had one
well, Jacory Harris was a QB, so it wasn’t loaded with talent, thats for sure
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 21, 2012 8:09 PM CST reply actions
Post idea:
Sometime before the Combine I’d like to see a poll of which player you’d like the most, then a multiple option poll listing all the players that you’d be happy with in the first round of the draft, then probably one after the Combine, and one before the draft.
Yep, we’ll do somethng like that a little closer to the combine. Right now, David DeCastro would be the hands down winner. That may change a little as we get closer to the combine and other names starte getting a little more press.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 4:27 AM CST up reply actions
I see nothing wrong
with the Cowboys following the BPA approach.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I think this is the year for a trade down and then a trade up.
What you want is two picks in the 24 36 range.
So many players are close together.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 22, 2012 12:19 AM CST reply actions
Draft guys
I know there is no definite answer but I think it would be an interesting post to do something like this:
Show a ranking of players before the combine and then one after the combine and then one before the draft? To get an idea of how people can overthink or get impressed with flashy 40 times or something. To highlight the players that should “trust” the tape as they were ranked high to begin with but fell and now our clear studs or vice versa.
Maybe its not interesting at all or too hard idk. Just looking at last years mock at this time had Tron in like the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Hes a guy who was helped by the combine and pro days.
Good idea?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
That IS an interesting idea.....
Alex Smith would be the poster boy for that article.
Please, no cornerback in the first round........
I think a cornerback in the first round would be a waste, or at the least a pick that will take 3 years to bear fruit. I’m praying for a stud guard (DeCastro), an FA center and the rest of the draft spent on d-line, linebackers and secondary. The ’Boys suck in the trenches, this is where they need help the most.
I Love It
Bryant has a couple of civil suits files against him and all I hear is “he’s a thug!” (Civil and CRIMINAL law are NOT the samething; ANYBODY can sue anybody else whether they actually HAVE a case or not, and even if they do it isn’t against the law). Yet, with the draft coming up, a chucklehead gets busted for pot and some of you CAN’T WAIT for the Cowboys to draft him! MAKE UP MY MIND!
What I’d like to see in this draft is a focus on the DEFENSE. A guy they could get in the third (MAYBE the fourth) round is Massaquoi from Troy; Ware’s Alma Mater.
GO COWBOYS! GET SOME BIG D! AH-OOO-AH!
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