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Cowboys Tidbits: Week Ending January 21st, 2012 In Review

Mike Jenkins shoulder surgery will keep him out for the next 4-6 months; meaning that he will return to the field just in time for 2012 training camp.

A week of news and notes for the Dallas Cowboys, sandwiched between the divisional rounds and the NFL conference championship games.

Saturday

Cowboys covet free-agent-to-be Nicks | ProFootballWeekly.com

Well, that's one piece of the equation down. Now all we need is for Nicks to want to join Dallas more than stay with annual Super Bowl contender New Orleans. From PFW's Whispers roundup:

Already, Cowboys fans are salivating at the idea of signing free-agent OG Carl Nicks, who might be too tough for the Saints to keep. Why Nicks and not, say, Ben Grubbs? Well, now-OL coach Bill Callahan has ties to Nicks from Nebraska, and owner Jerry Jones is said to be a fan of the Saints' power blocker to solidify the middle of his line. If the Cowboys move Doug Free to right tackle, they don't want to saddle him with a weak-link right guard.

Creer's late TD gives West 24-17 victory over East | Sports Illustrated

Pretty good game for the B-level senior prospects for the NFL Draft. The Senior Bowl is next week, where you'll find most of the senior's with a chance to be drafted in the early rounds. In this game, we got to see a handful of midround prospects. Of note: OLB Julian Miller, G Brandon Brooks, DE Tyrone Crawford, DT Dominique Hamilton, CB Shaun Prater, QB BJ Coleman, ILB Shawn Loiseau.

Friday

Mike Jenkins facing 4-6 months of rehab | ESPN Dallas

It looks like the surgery Jenks had on his troublesome shoulder last week will keep the Cowboys top corner (apologies to Terence Newman's agent) out until training camp. This means he won't be able to participate physically in the veteran OTA's and the like. Fortunately, those are learning activities and as long as he's healthy by the end of July, Rob Ryan's Year 1.5 defense should have the opportunity to ingest and commit to muscle memory.

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Friday(cont.)

Cowboys' Brooking doesn't want to see Bryant waste his talent | NFL.com

Before Keith Brooking ran out of gas, nine times out of ten he was a stand-up guy. Well, save for the embarrassing "you guys should be playing nice!" at the end of the Minnesota playoff whooping a few years ago. Not in this particular article, but Brooking did call Bryant the most talented individual he's ever played with; which for a 14-year veteran is saying a lot. Brooking also put a bit of sober realism out there, pertaining the young receiver's continuous place in the headlines.

"I mean, guys make mistakes. I'd be a hypocrite if I said, you know, you can't ever make a mistake, you can't ever get in trouble," Brooking said. "But at the end of the day, I mean, eventually, you've got to step up and be a pro and do the right thing.

"There's just so much potential there. I'd really hate to see that go by the wayside."

Thursday

Garrett Introduces New Coaches | The Mothership

I spoke about all the tasty tidbits of info on this week's podcast, but there were solid nuggets in head coach Jason Garrett's presser. Amongst them, confirmation the team is considering swapping left and right tackles Tyron Smith and Doug Free. Also, Jay Ratliff is a versatile lineman that played injured and the team isn't married to a 3-4 scheme and is willing to roll out various fronts. OK, I lied. These are things that we here at BTB have talked about for a while, but I guess now it's officially on record that the team has options. Yeahhhh....

There was actually something interesting to come out of the presser, besides the enthusiasm of Bill Callahan and Jerome Henderson. Garrett says that he is open to the possibility of handing over play calling duties to new offensive coordinator Bill Callahan once he feels there is complete comfort between he, Callahan and quarterback Tony Romo.

Dez Bryant Responds On Twitter | NBC DFW

Dez denies that the dust up at Liv Nightclub in Miami that has made all the Dallas headlines percolate had anything to directly do with rapper Lil' Wayne. Or his leotard pants.

Wednesday

Salary Cap won't be issue for Cowboys | ESPN Dallas

$20 million my, friends. $20 million at least. Dallas has some in-house free agents to consider, but that's plenty to play with. Can we just fast forward past all this playoff stuff to March already?

Tuesday

Position Series: Murray, Jones A Solid RB Mix | The Mothership

DC.com has been reviewing the positions and has a recap of the carousel of both halfbacks and fullbacks that entered the fray on behalf of The Star in 2011.

Brett Maxie enjoyed his time with Cowboys but couldn't pass up chance to run his own room | Star Telegram

Dallas lost their Safeties Coach to the Tennessee Titans, as Maxie moved on to become their Secondary Coach.

Monday

What Level Of Performance Can Be Expected From Rookie Lineman? | BloggingTheBoys.com

Unbelievably great piece by our resident stat guru, One.Cool.Customer. Must Read.

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With salary cap not being an issue

We still don’t have to go all Philadelphia Dream Team.

But signing Nicks, and a capable Safety, mixed in with tough veteran role players should be a priority.

Watching the Nfc championship game today it shows how important a pass rush is. And as much as I like Decastro getting Nicks eliminates the pressing need.

Without question if Nicks is signed first round Pass rusher should be selected Ingram, Upshaw, Stills, Brocker, ect. Followed by a CB and or another pass rushing front seven. Nicks is such a major upgrade a G/C could be selected in the 3rd round to compete or take over for Costs/Kosier

by CowboyWay on Jan 22, 2012 5:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Id much rather keep elam

And take a good corner like Finn specially after the mediocor safteys getting 30-50 million last year and our fa crop isn’t that good this year. So sign a guard upgrade at corner and keep Robinson maybe even sign a good hard nosed de that can bit down and take qb with him.

by Sado44 on Jan 22, 2012 11:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Not opposed to Elam

But the likely hood of getting Nicks and Finn are slim to none. They both will demand top dollar and I would much rather build our defenses meat and potatoes through the draft than signing a bunch of free agents. When I say capable safety I mean someone in the likes of an Elam. But a little more range.

As for Finn I would much rather go after Nicks which would instantly boost the line along with Free and Tyron switching. Couple that with getting CB and Front seven help in the draft. CB is deep and there will be a pass rusher at 14. A better pass rush covers for average CB play. IMO Jenkins is a very good corner add 1st or 2nd round CB with 3 front 7 players drafted to boost the pass rush and you have a solid formula heading into draft weekend. BUT it all starts with Nicks

by CowboyWay on Jan 22, 2012 11:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The problem with

the defense is the secondary. Even when the Cowboys led the league in sacks with 59, they couldn’t get out of the first round of the playoffs. When you have a HOF pass rusher like Ware,you will get more 3-5 step drops from QBs. You need corners to cover those routes and safetys to back them up. You can’t use the nuances of the 3-4 if you can’t cover. Rob Ryan needs to take a page from his brother Rex’s book.

by jevans1729 on Jan 22, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

While I belive they go hand in hand

Your theory is being debunked recently.

The Niners have an average secondary but an elite pass rush, the giants average Secondary elite pass rush, same for the Steelers. No coincidence since the Packers pass rush disappeared their defense ranked 2nd to last. No coincidence the Patriots lacked a pass rush in the regular season and their defense ranked last.

Rex Ryan would crave for a pass rush. That is what’s lacking in his defense. It’s not all about sacks as much as it is about pressure and getting a QB off his spot. With an added pass rusher there is not need for an expensive corners in the current situation. As there is no safetys on the market that are worthy of big money. The Steelers have been to 3 super bowls with this formula, pass rush first. And we see the trend in today’s Championship games.

If both Claiborne and Kirkpatrick are gone at 14 it only furthermore calls for the best pass rusher and selecting corner in the 2nd round. A quality corner can be had in the top 15 baring trade in round 2

by CowboyWay on Jan 22, 2012 2:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

with all things being equal, having a top tier pass rush is better than having a

top tier secondary BUT our secondary is so weak that it’s hurting our pass rush. 49ers are getting great play out of their secondary too. Carlos Rogers is having a banner year.

Either way, we need to get more defensive talent

by somebodyquiet on Jan 22, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes more talent

But too many times this year I saw qbs have a clean pocket if D Ware wasn’t getting there.

by CowboyWay on Jan 22, 2012 6:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I would love to sign Michael Griffin

he had a down year last year but he’s a very good safety. Clear upgrade for us back there

by somebodyquiet on Jan 22, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Lots of good stuff

getting Nicks would sure make our draft better.We could trade up or down as need be and not have to take DeCastro who might be a great pick but would not help much next season.

by TCB Orange Dino on Jan 22, 2012 5:35 AM CST reply actions  

Decastro can walk right in and start

and still be worlds better then any guard we had this year

by burmafrd1944 on Jan 22, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Your first rd pick is expected to start right away and contribute

DeCastro will be penciled in as a starter from day 1.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 9:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Guys if we truly fix the O with Nicks and DeCastro, we should be able to get into the playoffs. Once we are in anything can happen.

Improve the D and we can compete. Completely fix the D next year.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 22, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Nicks+DeCastro

Tony and DeMarco would do the dance of joy.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 10:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd be really upset if we don't give Tony the protection he needs and the O sputters again next year.

I don’t want mediocrity on both sides of the ball again next year. 8-8 or 9-7 are not acceptable.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 22, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

If they sign Nicks

I doubt if they would take DeCastro at #14 too if but for nothing else but the cost. I’m not saying they wouldn’t do it later in the draft for another C/G.

by jevans1729 on Jan 22, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Cost of 1st round pick at 14 will be alot less

than Nicks

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by BigBad Joe on Jan 23, 2012 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree but,
“There’s just so much potential there. I’d really hate to see that go by the wayside.”

“Potential is nothing…Performance is everything” Bill Parcells.

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 6:10 AM CST reply actions  

I will apply this to Brockers

Too much risk with taking him

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 7:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

don't forget Julius Jones

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 9:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly my second choice for his title was

“the man who adamantly opposed drafting DeMarcus Ware”

by CotySaxman on Jan 22, 2012 9:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Could you imagine

If he succeeded in convincing Jerry that Spears should go first, and then the Chargers end up with Ware?

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 10:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I know.

To think, he almost prevented Tila Tequila’s abuse.

by CotySaxman on Jan 22, 2012 10:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Bobby Carpenter

The man who intercepted Romo and then ran around and through our entire offense on his way to the endzone. That Bobby Carpenter?

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Blind Squirell finds the nut once in a while

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 11:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

one good play doesn’t make him a good player

by somebodyquiet on Jan 22, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

We need a few squirrels on our team then.

"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 24, 2012 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Dez shouldn't have been hanging out with Lil Wayne anyhow.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 6:12 AM CST reply actions  

I know right!

I never understood whats so fun hanging out in a club or bar til 2am.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 22, 2012 7:06 AM CST up reply actions  

The last call hookup.

That is all.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.

"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films

by Nickthegrip on Jan 22, 2012 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

they are rich and pro football players

I don’t think they need to wait to last call or even goto a bar, am I right?!

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 22, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Remember where the majority of them come from.

You return to your comfort level until you mature. Bryant in particular is not mature.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.

"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films

by Nickthegrip on Jan 22, 2012 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 22, 2012 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Where exactly is it that "they" come from?

Mars?

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll vouch for that- I've had plenty of fun hanging out in a club til 3 or 4am

When I used to club, we didn’t show up until 12-1am most times. There’s a lot of fun to be had.

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by KD Drummond on Jan 22, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

People need to get out more

Then they’ll understand.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 9:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I had my adventures walking the streets

of Waikiki, with a bag of bottles and a guitar. Make all sorts of friends that way. Clubs are for a different type of people, especially in military towns.

by CotySaxman on Jan 22, 2012 9:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah yes, those were the days

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by RenoCowboy on Jan 22, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe not to us. Im married with 5 kids.

I get tired at like 9 PM. But I aint gonna act like it aint fun. Gotta be a lot more fun when you are famous. Good decision, NO. Fun, HELL YES!

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 22, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Seems like you could throw some damn good parties

at your own house or at a friends house. Hire a DJ even. Just stay out of the public spotlight when you have a target on your back like all professional rookies do. People and Paparazzi are just looking for something to start.

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

so if you're an entertainer

Which includes: athlete, movie star, musician, or singer then you have to stay couped up in your pad?

Just cause we have Drew Magery, Perez Hilton, TMZ, Deadspin, First Take, Inside Edition etc doesn’t mean these people can’t go out and enjoy themselves when they get the opportunity.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 11:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If I had "pads" like those guys,

I’d be glad to stay home and entertain.

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Emulate Emmitt Smith.

He stayed in his hotel room and played dominoes instead of going out. During the offseason, you put yourself in the public eye doing charity work. Stay the hell away from anything that could potentially get you in trouble.

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Cant sayvim

Upset about Dez. Hell I’ve done all the same shit in fact when I was 22 I had a business trip in California and decided to go have a drink next thing I know I’m drunk got girl and ended up smashing some guys head against his car cause he called this girl a slut whore. Imagine that she was but it happens I missed my meeting spent the night in jail and came back home. It harmless fun the media is the only bad outcome so Dez isn’t the problem media is.

by Sado44 on Jan 22, 2012 11:22 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Right. The media is...so stay out of the night clubs and

don’t give them any reasons to write about you.

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Your asking

FFor a 23 year old kid to not go out and spend the night on the town. Be realistic is all I’m saying. Don’t get all he needs to stay home bullshit

by Sado44 on Jan 23, 2012 2:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Remember that "bullshit" when you read their name in the police report.

And then remember that I told you so. After they are done playing they have the rest of their lives to party.

"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 24, 2012 7:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Love having FA before the draft again

If this Nicks thing comes to fruition I’d be stoked.

by Bermystar on Jan 22, 2012 7:27 AM CST reply actions  

I'd rather save some money by signing a C and drafting DeCastro

Get a FA CB/rusher and then in the 2nd round get a rusher/CB

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 22, 2012 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Saving Money Ain't No Goal

. . . with the new TV deals in the bag (one to go I think) . . . and everything set for the next decade, Dallas is ready to rumble in free agency. They gotta be smart but I expect to see much much more than just an elite offensive lineman. Money, be damned. Add talent. As much as possible in free agency, and this will free up the draft possibilities.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 22, 2012 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

saving money to put towards a better D player

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 22, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Or...

Sign an all pro Guard, draft DeCastro in the first round, a Center in Konz (if we can get him in the second), bring in a free agent pass rusher and corner, and then build the rest from the third round forward. This gives you a starting o-line of T-Rex, Carl, Konz, DeCastro, and Free.

by jtgreet02 on Jan 22, 2012 9:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm with you Ham,sign Meyers-draft Decastro-resign Holland.O-line is fixed and your young guys get one more year to get ready.Go heavy on defense with the draft.

Maybe get a TE and a QB late.This would leave $ to resign Robinson and Spencer and the draft class.There should be enough $ to sign a pretty big name in FA for the defense.This is my “Perfect Scenario”.

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by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 23, 2012 2:59 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Actually I kind of liked it the other way around.

I think it allows teams to go more BPA than the other way around. Teams can take the players in the draft they consider the best and then use FA to fill the gaps.

Think about the Cowboys this year. If they don’t take a corner in FA, they have to take a corner high in the draft, or play Newman for an additional year. That already limits waht you can do in the draft, and that’s never a good place to be.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 22, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

The same could be said if it was after the draft..
Think about the Cowboys this year. If they don’t take a corner in FA draft, they have to take overpay for a corner high in the draft FA, or play Newman for an additional year.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 22, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Forgive my ignorance

But how much does a top OG make per year? The only free agency I completely understand is baseball, and some of the top guys make 17-25 mil per year. Is that about the same for fir football?

by BrickTop on Jan 22, 2012 8:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

haha no. That is Peyton Manning money.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 22, 2012 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Pmanning with a discount too.

I’m pretty sure anyway that he didn’t take the highest he could have.

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by willyoubemycharizard on Jan 22, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Highest paid Guard is The other Saints guard Jahri Evans

He signed a 7 year deal worth $56.7M in 2010. That’s why I can’t see the Saints signing Nicks, that’s a lot of money being invested in 2 guards

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by KJDH2154 on Jan 22, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha damn

I honestly thought it would cost 12-15 per to sign Nicks. So we could definitely sign Nicks and a cb. Or whatever route they go..

by BrickTop on Jan 22, 2012 9:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Mankins signed a 6 year 51 mil deal

I don’t like nicks at those prices, though. I’d like 6 years 25-30 mil.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 22, 2012 9:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Nicks > Mankins

"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones

by KJDH2154 on Jan 22, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Mankins got

30 mil guranteed and a 20 mil signing bonus. Nicks is better and 4 years younger. I would give Nicks a Mankins deal in a heartbeat. He is going to get those dollars from somebody.

by jevans1729 on Jan 22, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Ignorance forgiven

I don’t know much about wages and salary cap stuff myself.

by Bermystar on Jan 22, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Football is worse.

Spread the 17-25 million baseball players make over 160 games. Then spread that over 16 games for football players.

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Would people complain if this happened?

Dallas trades down in the first with the Pats:
Giving up a 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th for their 2 first round picks? Dallas would end up with:
27, 28-32*(one of these picks), 45, 82, 213 that would be 4 picks in the top 100.

I think it’s worth it. The only caveat being, I’d do this if we sign Nicks in FA.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 8:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I like the looks of that trade

You could then use one of those firsts and your second to move up if you see it necessary, say if Konz or Ingram were to fall. With the other first you could get Poe or Gilmore

"I still feel like I have something to offer, and the cynical fan can really kiss my ass. I really don’t care. There’s a bunch of true fans and the people who actually want to take the time to get to know me know who I am. The guy who sits in his mom’s basement and types on his mom’s computer, I couldn’t really care less about." - Chipper Jones

by KJDH2154 on Jan 22, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Much o fthe reason NE trades back is based on the salary cap

Which they’re smart with. With the new salary structure in place, I don’t think that NE will be looking to trade back like they used to.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.

"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films

by Nickthegrip on Jan 22, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

NE also has 2 second-rounders.
  1. and 64, I believe. I might not mind trading our 14 for their 22 and 48, if that is do-able.

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Jan 22, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Patriots have the 27th, the Saints pick.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 9:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You're right.

I looked again and they have 27 and 32, not 27 and 22. I had a brainfart.

"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young

by randyd on Jan 22, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

well

they’ll have another one between 29-32…TBD

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 9:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think Bill will hesitate

To trade up and improve his team especially because of the new rookie wage scale.

Given his relationship with Nick Saban, I could see New England trading up for Barron. Prevent Baltimore or Pittsburgh from getting a safety which they’ll covet in the first rd. Improve your team and deny your chief competition a chance to replace an aging star.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 9:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I would complain

if Decastro is there and we pass. You do not pass on a once in 10 years player at a position of need.

How often can we expect if we are a decent team to draft in the top 15?

Do not pass up on that. I have no problem trading down when you are in the 20’s since the very best are usually gone by then

by burmafrd1944 on Jan 22, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I left off the other part of the caveat

DeCastro already gone.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 9:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

squeelers have to start rebuilding their D

Harrison and Polamolu showed their age late in the season and in the playoff game.

by burmafrd1944 on Jan 22, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

Who gives a flying crap about those bunch of losers!

"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Jan 22, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Joe Pa died this AM.

Great coach, too bad he had to go out under this cloud of controversy. May he RIP.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 22, 2012 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

RIP Coke Bottles

Legendary college coach.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 22, 2012 10:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

RIP

although he deserved all the blame he got towards the end

by somebodyquiet on Jan 22, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Too bad he had to go out under a cloud?

He did it to himself by either protecting his football program, or being too chickens**t to do the right thing.

I’m sorry he died, but he is a POS. Protecting children is more important than protecting a football team. Not even close.

In the 17 seasons from 1966-1982, the Cowboys went at least to the conference championship game 14 times. In the 16 seasons from 1996-2011, the Cowboys have won 2 wild card games.

by fs65 on Jan 23, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

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