Will Tony Romo Re-Sign With The Cowboys When His Contract Expires In Two Years?
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 23, 2012 5:30 AM CST
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Tony Romo's current contract will end after the 2013 season, when he'll be 33 years of age. Will the Cowboys re-sign him? Your first reaction might be to think that if Jerry Jones wants Romo in Dallas, of course Romo will be in Dallas. But will Tony Romo himself want to re-sign with the Cowboys?
As Cowboys fans, we're inclined to think that it's every player's dream to retire a Cowboy, and that is especially true when we think about the storied history of our franchise quarterbacks.
Craig Morton is the only QB in the Cowboys' 51-year franchise history who did not retire a Cowboy after starting at least eight games in two consecutive seasons as a quarterback for the Cowboys. Eddie LeBaron, Don Meredith, Roger Staubach, Danny White and Troy Aikman all retired as Cowboys. Heck, even Drew Bledsoe, Brad Johnson and Jon Kitna retired as Cowboys in the last few years.
But if you were Tony Romo, would you re-sign with the Cowboys?
There is no question that Tony Romo is one of the top quarterbacks playing the game today. He has been ranked in the top ten in passer rating in every one of his six seasons in the NFL, yet only has three playoff appearances and one playoff win to his name. There is a widely held and perpetrated belief that Tony Romo is a key reason why the Cowboys have not had more postseason success. But what if it's exactly the opposite: what if the Cowboys are the reason Tony Romo hasn't had more postseason success?
The Star-Telegram quotes ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer on Romo:
"Tony has greatness in him," he said. "I think when you talk to other people that really play the quarterback position, and I see it as well, there's a few guys that really have incredible greatness in them, and Tony is one of them. I think the issue here is he needs more help from his teammates.
I think they are not nearly as talented as people say they are, from 1 to 53. I'm talking about the total roster. I don't think there's as much order and structure in the organization as the Giants have and the teams that have the elite quarterbacks have. I think the only thing that's keeping Tony from ascending into the upper echelon of quarterbacks is his team, is the help from his friends and his teammates, and I think once that all comes together, you're going to see the fullness of Tony's greatness come out."
As I was watching the playoffs over the last three weekends, I often wondered how much better most of the playoff teams would be with Romo under center. For now, that's a hypothetical discussion. But in two years, it will become a very real question.
Tony Romo will forever be considered a quarterback who put up gaudy stats but couldn't win in the postseason - unless he makes a deep run in the playoffs. He knows this, the Cowboys know this, the fans know this.
The next contract will be Tony Romo's last big contract in the NFL. If he is at all concerned about his legacy, he'll want to play for a serious contender for a couple more years. Today, the Cowboys are not that team.
The Cowboys gave Romo a chance as an undrafted rookie QB in the NFL. Tony Romo paid them back, and then some, with consistent top ten performances, and even threw in a couple of broken bones and a punctured lung for free. Now it's up to Jason Garrett and the Cowboys to show Romo that this is the team that will allow Romo to firmly establish himself in the "upper echelon of quarterbacks" in the NFL.
They have two years to do this.
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Hope we win a championship
With tony. Really do the guy really deserves it.
by cjs.93 on Jan 23, 2012 5:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I have never wanted to see a guy win a super bowl more than Romo
what I mean is, that I really want to see him finally win that big game and rip the monkey off his back and then he can ride off into the sunset
it would be a great ending to his career if he could win a super bowl
I loved Troy Aikman as a kid, but I never felt the connection I have with Romo, I want to see him succeed and win so badly
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Agreed
I’ve never seen Aikman or any of the other QBs in action. For me, Romo is the face of the Cowboys, I really hope he stays and so he can get a ring with us.
"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 23, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
well I grew up watching Aikman and loved him
but he won and had great success, Romo hasn’t yet and its something that just really makes me want to see him succeed
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
exactly
Giants proved it twice the last 4 year, if you can pressure the QB and your QB gets hot at the right time you can make the playoffs. We gotta draft players to pressure the QB to make our mediocre secondary look better than it is.
"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
yes
we need pass rushers
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
We need to sign OSI!!!
even if hes only used as a situational pass rusher, he is a beast in that role. Team him back up with DWare like in college. Go get him Jerry!
by American Fan on Jan 23, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
I have vague memories of Roger Staubach playing for the Cowboys. Danny White, too. I guess ya’ll are kids.
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 23, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
Love watching Roger,
Drew Pearson, Dorsett, Newsome, but both Roger and Troy had a solid defense to play along side them. And yes, we had TVs then.
I grew up watchin
Dandy Don
an Staubach
so there who’s the eldest of us all
"Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?"
One Dallas player I wanted to see win one more than Romo......
Dandy Don, the man took a beating on the field and in the press. He carried the Cowboys in the 60s. If he had been the QB in Dallas’ 1st SB against the Colts, there is no doubt in my mind Dallas would have 6 rings.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Jan 23, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah as i understand it....
the officials awarded the ball on the fumble to the wrong team …..
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
I'll go with that, Chia.
There is something about Tony that is just so much more approachable that Troy. I loved Aikman, but he was always a bit aloof in some way, and so reserved while he was a player. I connect with Tony (in a fan type way) the way I did with Roger Staubach. Not comparing him to Roger, just saying that I have a similar kind of feeling about him.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
it would be almost elway-esque if he does that.
Each week, play whoever is standing across the field from you, whenever and wherever. If you match up well, exploit it and win. If you don’t, then get very crafty in your game play and try to "steal" a win anyway. Repeat process until no more games remain, and confetti rains down from a retractable roof and Roger Goodell is handing out hardware. - hookerhome
in aeternum amicus meus vivit sua musica non morietur
A Friend of mine lives forever, his music will never die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1FHzJruAg
RIP Chuck Shuldiner - Father of Death Metal
by Nick Castillo on Jan 23, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
I 100% agree with this. Rec'd
I also loved Aikman as a kid but didnt fully understand football, now that I’m older and know what’s going on I want Romo to get his just reward. I’ve actually been wondering this very thing for this whole season and just the way things fell apart in Dec again, all with Romo still playing the samehe had in Nov, it’s gotta take a toll on the man.
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 25, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Redskins....
Shannahan is known to like him and with the Redskins Defense, Tony could do some damage.
In two years, he also might be a fit for the Jets if they get Peyton this year.
Dolphins, but they seem almost as dysfunctional as the cowboys lately, however, their new coach may change that.
Denver if the Tebow experiment fails.
Oakland is always a possibility.
San Francisco might be the best shot, an open competition between him and smith in a training camp, I am confident Romo would win and after seeing the job that coaching staff did this year, if I was Romo, THAT is where I would want to go.
LOL last place he should think about going is the Miami Cowboys!
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 25, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Dilfer nailed it
that is all.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 23, 2012 5:44 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
So true, lately I am more a Romo fan than a Cowboy fan
Romo has to overcome the organization just to get the wins he does get it seems and the media and all the other BS.
Can you imagine yesterday's Niners team with Romo?
Romo picks up at least one SB in the next few years, and SF would absolutely adore him — teammates and fans. Like Brees in NO.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 23, 2012 5:48 AM CST reply actions
I was thinking Baltimore
if Flacco has reached his ceiling, but I can see SF too.
" ... Any one of 500 coaches could have won those Super Bowls." Jones later denied saying such a thing -- sober. So he qualified it with, yet another, infamous quote: It "was just the whiskey talking."
"...it may be the whiskey talkin', but the whiskey says I miss you, everyday..."- Fountains of Wayne
I was thinking the same thing
if Romo was a Raven,wow
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
I think that would be one hell of a dangerous team
THAT defense with a QB like Romo, yeah, not many would want to face that, and the Steelers would have to do it 2x a year.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." –Vince Lombardi
by ProBowlFactory on Jan 23, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
yeah Flacco is the worst
I mean he made the throw that Lee Evans got stripped on, great defensive play by the way, but he was awful
Romo would be awesome there
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
flacco
Didn’t do bad at all yesterday. He was acually the reason they were in the position to win or forcr ot.. Ray rice won’t doing to much it was bassically on flacco’s shoulders n he was one Incompleation (that shuld have been caught) away from the superbowl. Billy cunduf (sorry for miss spelling) cost the ravens big time.
by cjs.93 on Jan 23, 2012 12:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Flacco played really well yesterday.
His teammates let him down.
by BrickTop on Jan 23, 2012 2:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Niners would be in Super Bowl XLVI
if Tony Romo was under center instead of Alex Smith. Have you every seen a playoff QB look more lost in the backfield?
by Cowboy_Among_Redskins on Jan 24, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Trent Dilfer is absolutely right.
I didn’t know ESPN analysts actually research and study teams.
by BrickTop on Jan 23, 2012 6:02 AM CST via mobile reply actions
He is one of the very few good ones
or is it only one?
by TheCowboyWay on Jan 23, 2012 6:18 AM CST up reply actions
Dilfer was giving Tony love...
when it wasn’t en vogue. He knew it when every other talking head was calling Tony a choker. It’s amazing Dilfer works for ESPN. He actually knows something.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
Dilfer is the man
and he constantly talks good about Romo
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
I have often thought this
If Tony were smart he would go to a team that is interested in putting a better product on the field instead of selling tickets. We are already reading how the Cowboys expect the shiny new OLine coach to fix the line. We heard this same crap about Rob Ryan and the defense.
It’s just Jerry convincing the fans he is doing something without actually doing anything.
Ok, so....
What would qualify as doing something then?
"You try and work hard and get better each week. I play the game with passion. I enjoy the game. It's a lot of fun when I'm out there. That's the way I play. For some reason, people like that." - Tony Romo
Whatever he doesn't do
Is what he would have needed to do, in the eyes of his detractors.
Signing new players, but no new coach, would illicit the same response.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You have np clue what your wven saying do you
New players new coaches what else can he do maybe he should pay off other teams so they let us win.
by Sado44 on Jan 23, 2012 4:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Romo
gets a lot of crap when analysts look at his game from a “playoff success” standpoint. Romo also catches a lot of flack from “fans” as well. I say that with quotes because, as America’s Team (eat your heart out BSPN), we have a lot of bandwagon fans that express there support for the Team, and by relation its players, only when we are winning (ex. look at all the Packers fans that suddenly sprung up this year and the end of last year). String some losses together and the crickets can become deafening, and all that gets through are the haters.
It gets difficult because we often become short sighted, with the mentality of looking at things from a how could we have won that game, from game to game, or even how could the season played out differently, from a season to season perspective. We too easily loose sight that as long as we have Romo as our QB, we have a shot to win, and the potential to be great.
The reality is, that Tony has laid it on the line for the Team, and for us fans, without question. We can debate his mistakes and short comings, all day and every day… but he deserves our support. He has earned that.
Whatever happens, Tony Romo is a Cowboy. A damn good one.
by TheCowboyWay on Jan 23, 2012 6:16 AM CST reply actions 9 recs
Very well said!
"You try and work hard and get better each week. I play the game with passion. I enjoy the game. It's a lot of fun when I'm out there. That's the way I play. For some reason, people like that." - Tony Romo
Disagree
I like the guy but nobody is beyond reproach. If he lays an egg I don’t have a problem with someone pointing that out.
In fact I kind of get annoyed by the “TONY IS ALWAYS AWESOME!” crowd. Meanwhile when we have a 2nd year rookie you expect to stumble have a bad game everyone craps on him.
MacGruber!
I don't know too many who say he's always awesome
but for those who do, that’s at least more consistent with being a fan. What I dislike are all the self-styled critics. They always look to blame certain players for everything from SB-less years to global warming. There’s a huge difference between trying to analyze plays and games, and trying to draw sweeping psychological or character conclusions about players. That’s what frustrates most of us.
Don't believe everything you think.
What I would actually love to see
is Cowboys fans defending their QB like Giants fans have done with Eli. How refreshing would that be – act like supporters rather than film critics….
Don't believe everything you think.
Remember how the Giants fans were calling for Eli's head in 2007?
Right up until they made the playoffs and won the Super Bowl. They were the #5 seed, a wild card.
Even Giants co-owner John Mara questioned Eli’s ability after their week 9 loss to the Cowboys: “The only thing we evaluate is ‘Can we win with this guy?’ That’s the one thing. When we talk about any player at the end of the season, the No.1 question is ‘Will he help us win?’ And to take it one step further, ‘Can we win a championship with this guy?’”
Dallas or New York—fans are fickle wherever you find them.
Hmmmm....
So you have an issue with someone saying ‘Tony SUCKS’ Or something to that effect? It offends your sensibilities that a football player who is doing his best is castigated in public? I am trying to understand.
Because I bet if you looked around you would find some interesting phrases about TNew… Costa… Ball…
I don’t remember anyone defending them much and they get WAAAY more ‘sweeping character conclusions’ than Tony.
MacGruber!
I don't agree with those either
No, what I object to is lazy and personal attack style analysis. So for example, looking at a play and figuring out why it went well or poorly. Or whether a game was well played. But people who have no personal contact with players opining about their leadership or making logically flawed statements about what their psychology will allow them to do in the future based on pretty much nothing, yeah, they are lazy and guilty of unnecessarily personal attacks.
So, if I say Newman lacks heart or doesn’t care or quit, then I’m the art critic guy. If I opine that he’s lost a step or injured or simply lacks the talent to play the position optimally, then I’m trying to actually understand the game and the player. It’s not a personal attack, it’s an assessment of his ability to play.
Romo has more than demonstrated his ability to play and win at the NFL level. So the constant harping on him is overplayed. And since people struggle to challenge the things you can actually measure about his performance, they invent hidden, unseen reasons that the team hasn’t won. Dilfer is refreshing because he’s being pretty objective – looking at the team’s flaws and trying to understand the roster as a complete, interdependent system.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 10 recs
And Romo gets defended by me because
he has played at a trendously high level and yet gets all kinds of unreasonable commentary made about him. No one else on the team sees that. Hell, almost no one in football gets that.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 23, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I cannot rec this enough dunk
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 23, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Ok...
Maybe since I don’t own a TV I don’t get a lot of this backlash against ESPN. I can understand the ‘Romo is not a winner’ annoyance. (Assuming you are talking about the media.)
I will say this though. There are a LOT of people defending Romo here. And that is fine. But I have heard maybe one person ever defending Sensibaugh when someone calls him Sensiballs… (or whatever)
Tony plays lights out sometimes. Sometimes he lays a duck. He tends to the extremes. I certainly do not think it is wrong to point that out.
I also disagree about defending Romo like the Giants fans defend Eli. I do not come here to read fiction. I want the bad along with the good.
MacGruber!
That's pretty much the annoyance I'm talking about.
I don’t know that it’s fiction so much as it is avoiding the stupid emotional reaction of making the discussion internsely personal. Romo isn’t a bonehead or casual. No one who plays with him or coaches him think that. Only fans and media say that, because you can’t get good and mad at a guy who is trying hard but for a variety of reasons might come up short. He has to be not trying or be stupid.
People don’t defend other plpayers as much because they don’t get the unending stream of negative commentary while at the same time being among the best players in the league at their position. So if Sensi were among the league leaders in interceptions, sacks and pass break ups at safety and still got hammered like Romo, then yes, a crap load of us would take issue. And i still hate the pwersonal commentary regardless of their performance. I seriously doubt Jenkins is a sissy or Brady is dogging it and that stuff remains lazy and wrong.
Don't believe everything you think.
In a complex world, people are increasingly searching for simple and even simplistic answers
What is true in politics and society at large is just as true in sports, especially in a sport as complex as football. Why worry about schemes, playcalling, technique or complex statistics when you can simply say “Player X sucks”?
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 23, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
It does simplify things!
And I apologize for the robot comments. Machines don’t suck. They are our friends.
Don't believe everything you think.
LOL awesomeness!!!
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
I'll disagree with "he tends to the extremes"
Think about his “failure” games this year. @ Jets: he played an excellent game which concluded with two mistakes, a fumble and interception. He handed us a large lead to start the game. Success + failure = an average game, no?
vs. Detroit: He played an epic first half and built a (nearly) insurmountable lead by playing near perfect football. 3 interceptions later, he has suddenly played a horrible game. For Romo, the 3 picks mean he played terribly throughout the game, rather than playing like the best in the league before making some mistakes.
Do you want to know what “tending to the extremes” is? Let’s try Mr. Manning, for example. His “great” games are about on par with Tony’s “good” games, but just go with it. He plays the Cowboys, in Dallas, and makes some plays to get the win after being down by 12. Then he plays Washington, and does not produce anything the entire game. That’s a bad game. When does Tony have that type of bad game? Never. But, it happens to mister Eli(te). Then he follows that game by “leading the Giants” to a blowout win over the Jets. His performance was stellar, completing 33% of his passes. The fact that he can be utterly terrible and have it ignored, and then play above-average and be praised as elite is what sickens me.
Romo’s biggest failures are only played up to be big. In reality, he played no worse football in Detroit than Eli did in San Francisco, or Brady did in New England yesterday. Funny how circumstances can pollute perceptions.
My most recent fanpost:
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Well...
You have some very valid points. I do not think there is much separating Tony from the top 5 quarterbacks in the league. And that is saying a lot because we have some of the best in the history of the game.
However, I would say the two errors Tony made on opening day were back breaking. He even said so after the game. I will give you a couple quotes from the Jets game from Tony.
“We lost this game because of me,”
“We win that football game if I don’t do what I did, It’s hard to swallow.”
I admire the guy for stepping up and saying it. But that was not a good day for Tony and he knew it. You can argue we wouldn’t have been in position to win it in the first place without him. I would tend to disagree. (though maybe not strongly)
And as far as the Lions game… Three interceptions is not very good in any game. Particularly when you know you have a big lead and don’t have to force it. It seems like it is in his nature to take chances. I am OK with that 95% of the time but every now and then you wish he would lay off a bit. I say you could probably have knelt that game through the middle of the 3rd till the end and won it. (hyperbole? maybe but not far off)
I will say this… He really picked it up at the end of the year though. I was impressed once it seemed like he came back from the rib injury. I am excited to see what he can do with a revamped oline.
MacGruber!
by Mojoness on Jan 23, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree with a couple of your points.
Early game success ending with failure does not equal an average game. That equals a poor game. Just as early game poor play ending with late game heroics equals a good game. They don’t get a report card at the end of the game and the team with the highest average grades isn’t awarded the win. It’s the cumulative result of your day.
Manning has great statistical games that are equal with Romo’s great games, as well. Just look at when he shredded us in the last game of the year, for example. Romo has what you define as bad games, too. The first Philadelphia game this year wasn’t exactly what I would call a stellar outing for Tony. Pretending that Eli is not on the same level as Romo at this point just makes us Cowboys fans look ignorant, in my opinion. And, it further highlights the common opinion that Cowboys fans seem to celebrate stats more than results. Eli was amazing in the 4th quarter this year, and that is more important than many people will admit. Yes, it is indeed preferable to be good for 4 quarters rather than 1, but at the end of the day, what is most important is getting the win. Eli has shown a knack for turning it up and getting the win. It would be great for us if they just calculated the day’s QB ratings or the ANPY/A or whatever, but that’s not really how it works.
That said, I do agree with those that want so badly for him to win as a person, almost as much as for the Cowboys to win as a team. This team needs to figure out how to make that happen, whether it’s being better prepared, acquiring better players, or whatever. I think a good start is solidifying the line with something better than 7th round backup college players and UDFAs. Both teams in the Super Bowl had better offenses and worse defenses than us this year, but if we shore up our line, I think we could be there next year.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Replace Eli with Tebow
Still doesn’t make either QB better than Romo. Eli and Tebow have defenses and great OLs. Romo doesn’t.
Eli’s best year with big bro coaching is still only on par with Romo’s avg.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Tebow and Eli are nothing alike.
And it is absolutely untrue that Denver has some kick ass D and OL that is superior to ours. Their defense was worse than ours, just like the Giants. Tebow was sacked almost as many times as Romo, even though he passed less often, is far more mobile, and had less starts. The Giants’ OL struggled all year, too. It’s only that those QBs made it further into the postseason, so now we’re retroactively making their teams better than they were to detract from their play.
Tebow is a completely different kind of player than Eli, and suggesting any similarities between those two is just bizarre to me.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
Hey you said it.
it is indeed preferable to be good for 4 quarters rather than 1, but at the end of the day, what is most important is getting the win
.EliTebow was amazing in the 4th quarter this year, and that is more important than many people will admit
EliTebow has shown a knack for turning it up and getting the win. It would be great for us if they just calculated the day’s QB ratings or the ANPY/A or whatever, but that’s not really how it works.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Was Tebow amazing in the 4th quarter?
I know that Eli set records with his 4th quarter performances this year.
If you’re looking for me to say that Tebow had a bad year, though, I’m not going to say it. There is more to the QB position that QB rating. But I don’t think he’s on the level of Romo or Eli yet. Check back with me in a couple of years.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
he got them to the playoffs
on his 4th quarter play alone. That’s amazing to me.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Question
If Tebow gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage during a design run play, is it a sack or TFL? I think it was probably still counted as a sack is it not?
Denver and NYG both had better defenses then us, what stat are you using total yards or something? Den and NYG have what you need a pass rush without blitzing.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Yes, I used the stats.
Both the Broncos and the Giants allowed more yards per game and points per game than the Cowboys.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
GREEEEN CITY........ good point dunk
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
I get annoyed by the Romo "Romo Always Sucks Hard" crowd, which is also
visible here, and is more than visible on most other boards. This is one of the few places where I can actually see rational discussion on the subject, and even then, it depends on whom you’re talking about.
Honestly
The only time I read that on a regular basis has been the game threads. I am not aware of a regular that would say that.
{chuckle}
I kind of think I am about as negative as it gets about Romo here and I love the guy.
MacGruber!
It goes beyond game threads. Or better yet, check out the game threads
yesterday for games the Cowboys weren’t involved in. The usual suspects were out in force defying anyone to defend Romo in the face of Manning’s “greatness.” It was bizarre. There are several regulars who say it…regularly (I can even name a few names who are as far in the other direction as Terry is in his love).
My point is, though, that. for all that there are indeed some Romo “haters” on this board, and I don’t use that term lightly, this is a relative safe haven for those who DO like Romo. It’s a rough world outside our little blog, and unreasoning dislike of Romo is pretty rampant. I think that’s why his defenders get so defensive, so to speak.
He'll get extended sometime next year.
As that’s what Jerry Jones does. I don’t believe that this is the right thing for Romo personally, as the Cowboy team may not be ready for a run at that point, but I would wager that Romo will do this. His wife works in the Dallas area, and I’m sure he recognizes his professional future after football would be rosier if he retires a Cowboy.
I definitely think the team at large holds Romo back instead of the other way around. I’ve really come to be a big fan of his.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
This is exactly what I was thinking
I dont think he ever gets to a point that his contract is up.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 23, 2012 7:19 AM CST up reply actions
JJ would be insane not to keep Romo
at least until he has a VERY promising backup in the fold, which is not even close at this point. And I think Romo would be insane to go elsewhere. He has an owner that, despite some occasional mistakes (who doesn’t make some?) is doing everything he can to put the best people in place from top to bottom. It hasn’t worked out as of late, but you have to admit that he had good reasons to do what he’s done. I think too many look at JJs efforts with 20/20 hindsight and criticize, but I don’t think there is a move he’s made that he didn’t believe would truly help the team. If Romo is the guy I think he is, this place is better than many to show that he can do it. Sure it may take a great draft and sage moves in FA, but you can’t tell me that this team will not be capable of pulling out some of those games we lost at the end in the same way the Giants pulled out the key games that got them in. No, we’re not there yet, but we’re not that far off as long as we have Romo and several other key pieces.
We'll see what happens in the next couple of years
Jerry usually locks up his players before their contracts expire. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tony sign an extension in the next year. Garrett is going to get the players in here. He’ll put a big dent in the talent deficiency this off season. I’m saying it right now; Tony will win a Super Bowl for Dallas.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
Key difference between us and Giants
Their defense and offensive line are at their best at the end of the year. Ours seems to break down as the season goes on.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
I agree
also the Giants have real talent in that secondary and a plethora of pass rushers
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I think the pass rushers were part of that DL.
Their secondary’s okay, not great…but they also have a luck machine that they seem to take everywhere with them where their receivers make every big miracle catch and defenders drop picks left and right, and Kyle Williams. But they keep Eli standing and provide a pass rush.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
good teams, well teams that win super bowls tend to have some luck
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Theirs is uncanny...
Not hating, just jealous or they’d spread that luck around the Bronx more often.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
I know
im just saying teams that win titles have balls bounce their way and etc
its just the way it is
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Yep
Balls bounce right at Kyle Williams.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
well that guy is a moron
if I am a ST coach next year, I show that tape in my first film session
DO NOT RUN UP TO THE BALL
simple
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
God how lucky could the Giants get?
They get Alex Smith and Kyle Williams instead of Drew Brees and Darren Sproles.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
things just aligned right for them
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
their secondary is talented dude
people underrate that secondary
2 blown assignments was the only way the49ers scored yesterday
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
That and Alex Smith played worse than RG3 would have yesterday...
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
yeah the real Alex Smith showed up
he sucks
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Romo had his chance against the Giants.
How did that turn out.
by Sharksbreath on Jan 23, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't realize Romo played the Giants this year
As a member of the 49ers. Which was the topic of discussion.
As a Cowboy, he put up a 140+ qb rating game and another over 100. So it went pretty well.
You enjoy dumping the Cowboys’ failures on one successful player?
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Jan 23, 2012 2:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Romo could throw the SB winning pass
and Sharkboy would complain about the spiral. He’s simply not rational on the topic and it is 100% useless to discuss it with him. Unless you enjoy the feel of dry wall on the forehead.
Don't believe everything you think.
Phillips and Rolle are solid players
Rolle’s pretty overrated and definitely overpaid. Phillips is pretty underrated outside the Tristate, though.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
I dont think Rolle is overrated
because nobody hypes him or talks about him
Rolle gives you a great advantage because he is basically a CB that can play deep as a S and line up on guys
Phillips is vastly underrated
I wish we drafted Kenny Phillips, god that still burns
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
I think Rolle's overrated...
He’s the highest paid safety in the league, yet he’s no where near the best. Phillips yeah, always liked him. Great pedigree, great coaching staff that he played under, and good tools. I mean who knows Jenkins might be awesome next year, I guess around that time people still thought Roy Williams was good.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe just overpaid.
I don’t think anyone believes he deserves his contract.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Jan 23, 2012 2:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well they're playing from a higher baseline...
Their OL is quite a bit better and the DL is actually worth something.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
DeCastro.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
He'll re-sign
If the Cowboys resign Laurent and get a couple more solid players on the offensive line, there will be absolutely no reason for him to go.
He’s not going to get much better wide receivers anywhere else. He’s developed a relationship with Garrett and his wide receivers that’ll take years to replace.
Name me any good QB that has left their team, in recent memory, when they are still wanted by that team. Some malcontents have been traded, but I cannot think of a good QB that has hit the open market when their team still wanted them. Good QBs don’t leave their teams while they are still wanted.
As of this moment right now...
If I was Tony I wouldn’t resign. There hasn’t been a commitment to winning. Jerry runs a circus. I hope Tony wins a superbowl. he deserves one. Dallas as of right now isn’t the place to get one.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
I think alot will matter over the next year or so
I’m going to say he needs to somehow win more than one playoff game to get an extension. Either way, they wont rush to resign him and they shouldn’t.
On the flip side, anyone who doesn’t think a good pass rush trumps a good OL just needs to see what the Giants did to the Niners OL yesterday who are pretty darn good. On the Niners side, who said 3-4 DE’s don’t get sacks or pass rush. Justin Smith is real good. We need defense in the draft desperately
a good pass rush will ALWAYS beat a great OL
its impossible for OL to consistently stop the DL/pass rush & footballs always been that way unless it was the arena league.
its the reason SEC owns the bowls in college & they do it with QBs that rarely have success in the NFL. see the Giants & Niners DL busting up the OLs and how they keep the pressure on Eli/Smith. the Pats use a WR as a DB bc they know the pressure up front with limit the time any QB has.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Jerry hasn't put enough defense on this team to compete...
Jerry has also been lacking in the o line department. Jerry has been too worried about his stadium. It’s a huge expense and he is trying to sell events there. He is always looking for the stud skill player. Anyone notice Goldson last nite ? Yet Dallas doesn’t draft safties with premium picks since Roy. Even worse Goldson was a free agent. We got Elam. That is all you need to know about Jerry. He just doesn’t have a clue how to build a team. I feel so bad for Tony , Rat, Ware and Witten. Jerry never put them in a position to win except 07. He messed that up by having a biffoon as hc. The o line that year was mostly bought and not drafted.
I know some will bash me for bashing Jerry but it’s on him. Go ahead. Great job by Harbaugh. Great job by Coughlin. Both games were great games. Both showed how far away Dallas is. Frustrating times to be a Dallas fan. Our d is little sisters of the poor. It’s embarrassing. Garrett is gonna have to show me. I am not buying into him at all. There is no reason to at this point. Too many gaffes on his part..
I do hope they shut me up next year……as do most of you. LOL
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I think you are more extreme maybe
but it’s pretty clear that there have been enough mistakes in the past few years in talent acquisition that it has cost the team the ability to compete at the same level as NYG or SF. 2009 was a real opportunity lost to continue the momentum of some good seasons. So yeah, that is ultimately Jerry’s fault.
But I’m an optimist and the I think the direction of the past few drafts, and the involvement of some sober adults like Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett will move the team in the right direction.
Don't believe everything you think.
Yeah ... you need a great defense to get to the Super Bowl
NY Giants — 27th in the league at 376 yards/game
NE Patriots — 31st in the league at 411 yards/game
Yet Dallas doesn’t draft safties with premium picks since Roy
The o line that year was mostly bought and not drafted
Jerry hasn’t put enough defense on this team to complete
Well, you’ve covered just about everything except QB, RB, and WR.
I do hope they shut me up next year
I’ve learned from other blogs is that the whiners always whine … no matter the situation.
by Conn Cowboy on Jan 23, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
the Giants D is a lot better than the stats say
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
I think they have improved as the season went on
they finally have all their players healthy, and Fewell’s system is finally well understood and executed.
Don't believe everything you think.
Not really
They just played a lot better later in the season, and their offense was better at scoring in the 4th. I actually think that the Cowboys would be in the playoffs if Newman continued his pre-thanksgiving play.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Who's whining ? The fact is Jerry has been a fail in adding talent.
Tell me you don’t disagree.
Uh defense…did you see Wilfork dominate yesterday ? Did you see the Gmen d line dominate yesterday ? Hell even the Niner’s were ballin on d. They kept the Niner’s in the game. Conn look at the team for what it is and what it needs.
Kosier , Davis , Colombo all bought. 3 out of 5.
Surely you don’t believe Jerry has put enough quality defnsive players on this team to compete do you ? Or do you ?
Conn, son you really need to pull off the goggles. A spade is a spade. And Jerry is a fail. He has wasted careers of really good players on Dallas.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry gave high praise for the Giants defense yesterday
as well as Eli Manning. Don’t think Jerry isn’t going big on defense in the draft. OL pick at #14 isn’t going to happen people. If they can pull off signing Nicks from NO great, if not get someone else in FA or later in the draft. Our defense is the bigger problem of this team and has to be addressed first.
LOL
as do most of you. LOL
You know that’s right! Don’t think I’ve seen any other regular (save maybe bigham and his FanShot) more criticized then you.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I’m going to say he needs to somehow win more than one playoff game to get an extension.
I think you’re missing the point…The Cowboys “need” Romo more than Romo “needs” them. He holds better cards. Unless the Cowboys get a top tiered prospect in a couple of years (which seems unlikely), what choice do you have?
Romo is the only reason this team is in contention…without him, the Cowboys are a bottom tiered team. He’s not the reason we haven’t won more playoff games. Look at both Giants games…he’s not the reason we lost. Dude had a 141+ QB rating and outplayed Eli in the first game…it took our own coaches icing our own kicker to stop Romo.
If you need further proof…go ask Keith Brookings…he raved about Romo on NFL Network while questioning the other “talent” on this team.
Is that really true, though?
Everyone says that if we had the Niners defense and OL, along with Romo, we would be where they are. Or, some say imagine Romo on the Ravens instead of Flacco. I say, if we have all that, then even Flacco or Alex Smith can lead them to the conference championship game and possibly the SB. So if you get those pieces, is Romo still a necessity? If, as some people claim, the Ravens, Giants, Steelers, and Buccaneers win titles with pedestrian QBs, then why would we need a great one if we match their talent level at other positions?
Further, that stuff about Romo being the only reason we are in contention is garbage. The team has shown that it can win without Romo, and has shown that it can lose with him. We did just as well with Jon Kitna as we did with Tony Romo, even though it wasn’t nearly as pretty. We can lose to Philadelphia with McGee just as well as we lost with Romo.
I’ve also got to say that the more I hear from Keith Brooking, the less I respect him.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Coaching has something to do with it.
Wade is not a finisher. His track record says so. Wrong coach for our 07 team.
The Harbaughs are good coaches. Crappy coaching doesn’t get you to the Nfc and Afc championship games. Garrett , eh we will have to wait. He had a lot of gaffes this year.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I agree Garrett had a few gaffes this year.
I dunno if it’s “a lot” but definitely some decisions that may have the team the playoffs. I still think that he can improve as a head coach and develop into one of the best in the league. There’s been plenty of bad coaches that have gone far in the playoffs, and plenty of greats that never won the big one, so I disagree with you there about one of your points.
However, I do agree that he needs to improve as a coach. It’s never just the players or just the GM/owner or just the coach. When teams miss the playoffs there’s always a fair share of blame to go around. I wasn’t in love with Garrett as an OC, to be fair he didn’t have a great line in most years. However, I felt that he’d change his play calling as the HC…well he hasn’t. That has me a bit concerned, but I’m still keeping the faith and still back him.
We were 4-5 with Kitna...that's just as good?
Not to mention teams were figuring him out at the end of the season…remember the short check down passes and very little long ball?
Is everyone agreeing that our defensive talent is on par with those teams you specified? I find it hard to believe many will agree with that statement…
Our defense is not close to the teams you saw play yesterday.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think it's that...
They’re close, but I don’t think the OL or running game is anywhere near what we witnessed on Sunday.
Well, if we are going by 2010, it was better.
But if you are going by this year, I think 4-5 with Kitna and 1-0 with McGee was as good as 8-8 this year.
I don’t think you get what I’m saying about the defense. I’m not saying that we are on par with those teams. You are saying that the Cowboys need Romo more than he needs them. I am saying, that if we fix all of the problems that people say need to be fixed for Romo to lead them to victory, why would we need Romo? Those teams won championships due to their defensive talent, and supposedly the Niners and Ravens got as far as they did in spite of their QBs. So if we had similar defensive talent, why would we need Romo, since an average QB can obviously produce in that situation?
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Yes but those teams failed to progress to the SB thats what they are saying Romo would provide the Sb trip
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by Cowboys_Attack on Jan 25, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Either way, I'd like to see a developmental QB brought in
I’d love to see a guy like Chandler Harnish (Northern Illinois) taken in the 5-6 rd.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
I hope and am pretty sure we'll keep him
but he goes to another team, I’ll cheer for him. I’ve never really cheered for a former Cowboy bc I’m a fan of the team, not the individuals on it, but in this case, I would cheer for Romo bc I hate all the abuse he gets here.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm with you. After all the crap talked about him,
and the ingratitude toward a QB who made this team competitive again, I’d root for him to get a ring.
All I could think about yesterday was that if he had been with the Ravens or SF, they’d both be going to the SB.
I say that all the time.
If Romo goes to SF, BAL, NYJ, etc…they win the SB. Crazy. Get this guy a defense.
As much as I hate to say it.
I want Romo to win a super bowl, even if it’s not with the Boys.
by The Loco Llama on Jan 23, 2012 7:50 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Hard for me to picture Romo in another uni
I’ve critical of Romo before but only when I thought it was warranted. Tony is easily a top 10 QB and those are hard to find.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
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i will say its way easier to find a QB to thorw 3,000+ yards with limited mistakes in this era.
i agree Romos a top 10 QB stat wise but theres a legit argument about his skillset under pressure. he’ll throw one up for grabs when the pressures on him & thats something the top 5 or 6 QBs dont do on a consistent basis
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
That's not actually true or legit
his stats are even better in 4th quarters and in close games. That’s just buying into the media crap. And BTW, dId you see the Brady pick? How about the two Eli should have been picked on but the defenders knocked each other out of the play? Like a lot of fans, you don’t actually compare Romo to other QBs, but to some imaginary ideal. There isn’t a QB in football who throws more balls up for grabs than Eli Manning. But where’s the Eli hate?
Don't believe everything you think.
Those defenders colliding
is the perfect example of some of the luck the Giants enjoy. They’re a good team, but they have had some gimmes. When it happened I told my son there’s no way those defenders collide against the Boys.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
And has to lead the league
in un-called intentional groundings….
Don't believe everything you think.
tony romo is okay
But if you had those 2 games he tank we make the playoffs..
We all know that was always the thing about Romo he tank games and come back strong.. Romo is just as inconstient as every player on this team..
The D plays lights out at the start of the season Romo flakes games for us.. The D stink towards the end Romo is super man..
Me personally get a qb and groom him..
by lostar2009 on Jan 23, 2012 8:25 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
dallas had every right to as the giants did regardless
This team hiccups cost us 4 games… we could have easily been a 12-4 team
by lostar2009 on Jan 23, 2012 8:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
NO, No, no no no no no no no no
Little overstatement, my friend.
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 23, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Dallas fought head to head and had most these teams beat
That made the playoffs or earned a sb trip..
So you guys can just think this team is trash but i know better..
by lostar2009 on Jan 23, 2012 8:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 23, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
They did not have these teams 'beat'; Had they done so, they would have won the games
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
I disagree
They were Either leading both teams untill the late 4th quarter….had the Defense held against both, Dallas would be in the PLayoffs….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
but they did not. Ergo, the Cowboys did not have those teams beaten
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
no the Cowboys failed to Beat them
but they did have them beaten…
BAsically we are talking semantics at this point…
The Cowboys played both teams very close, and in fact that until the last half of the 4th Quarter had a lead against them….that is indisputable….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 23, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
No thats the issue I think
They did not have them beaten and those teams did not act like they were beaten. They kept going and thats how they were able to beat the Cowboys. They had an opportunity to beat those SB teams and did not.
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
by Final Frame on Jan 23, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
But by being able to play that closely to them
we at least know the talent is inferior, but close.
Don't believe everything you think.
we beat the 49ers with half our starters, Romo tank the lions game for us, we had new england on the ropes but went to conserative and left the Defense to finish the job
The giants we had those guys we had them… we was up like 10 – 14 pts in the fourth qtr then i have zero clue what happen..
Making the playoffs isnt about what team finishes its about getting in (ex. Broncos) once you get there then you see what can happen.. The giants record suck just aa bad as dallas..
by lostar2009 on Jan 23, 2012 12:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"Beaten" means the opponent is done, kaput, has nothing left to give, which was clearly not the case in the games you listed
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Nope Ironman. Dallas gagged in new York.
They do that quite often in those kinds of games. When it mattered most in regards to the playoffs. The Giants got on them and never let up. We were’nt close to beating the Gmen in new York.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
Besides good teams don't let 5 fourth quarter leads slip away.
Dallas would have been crushed by all of the teams in the playoffs yesterday. They just weren’t good this year.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
To your point...
Doesn’t that suggest that the running game needs to improve? Look in today’s NFL you’re never a run first offense and get anywhere. That being said, it’s useful to keep defenses honest or set up a play action, and it’s particularly useful in the redzone and to protect late games. Given that the running attack was ranked like 29th in DVOA, due in no small part to an interior line that blows asshole galore, I’d say that has more to do with the blown leads than anything.
Hmmm.
Why would that be true only of him and not other analysts?
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
Hmmmm. Who said anything about other analysts? I'm pretty sure I'd
take Dilfer’s word over yours or anyone else on this blog. That’s the meaning of “any of us.”
I'm pretty sure that I just did.
So are you saying that only Dilfer knows more than any of us, or is that true of most analysts? I’m just curious if you are taking Dilfer’s word because it is in sync with what you believe, or if you give the same benefit of the doubt to all former players that are now analysts?
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Please see my reply below. I am capable of deciding which analysts
I think have credibility and why, but thanks for asking.
Name the other QB analyst that thinks Romo is a scrub...I think Kordell Stewart is the only one...
…and Kordell could only dream of having the career Romo has had…not to mention Kordell studies tape rarely prepares for his “analysis”…which is probably why he wasn’t much more than a novelty act in the NFL.
Kurt Warner, Steve Young, Staubach…the list of of QB’s that think Romo is pretty good is distinguished.
Kordell Stewart is quite possibly the dumbest human alive.
He hates Romo. He hates Tebow. He hates himself because he sucked so bad.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone that is on ESPN is pretty dumb.
The “Stews” , Stephen A Smith, John Richie, Jemelle Hill, etc etc
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Skip ? He and Kordell were made for each other.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
all of them.
Mike and Mike, Chris Carter, anyone on NFL32, Herm. The only guy I like is Mangini’s flim break downs.
I did like NFL matchup show, because they just talked football and it was on 8am Jaws/Sal/Hoge. I don’t really like them on their own but that show wasn’t bad.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I knew a guy that knew him
Bill Roe, old Cowboy. Drafted in the 3rd round, played a few years, wore 56. Went to Colorado and stayed active in the program so he knew Slash. Bill’s kid and Slash were really close. I heard he was a great kid in college but couldn’t handle life out of college.
Heard a lot of other weird rumors about him from outside sources.
Actually, I saw elsewhere where you were asking about Sanders, Faulk, etc., and
I have some additional thoughts. First, yes, I think Dilfer knows more about being a quarterback than Deion Sanders or Marshall Faulk. I think Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, and Danny White do, too, and the latter two are not newscasters looking for a sound bite. They all think Romo is first rate. Second, I can differentiate between sports analysts just like I can differentiate between other types of newscasters and news outlets. There are some I think are credible and some I do not. Sanders says whatever will get a strong reaction from the audience; a lot of news people and sportscasters do that these days. He is also two-faced; I saw him talk to Romo to his face and suck up and then behind his back assert that Romo does not know how to be a QB in the NFL. Which is it? I don’t take that kind of hyperbole seriously. Dilfer has been steady in his discussion of Romo, not excusing his mistakes, but cutting through a lot of the hysteria that seems to swirl around the QB of the Cowboys. Everyone can decide for themselves whom to believe, but I take Dilfer and his lack of bandwagon jumping seriously.
read this
let me know what you think…..LOL
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
If I was Romo I would retire this year and tell Jerry where and how hard to stick it.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Proof Jerry will never get it. EVER.
He still can’t see what he has done to this team.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
I feel sorry for Romo. The guy took a beating this year, played well,
and Jones publicly embarrasses him. That’d have to suck.
No he doesn't
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Just read the Mothership spin. I don't know what Jones's motive was, but
what I think is what I’ve always thought; he should keep his big mouth shut.
Ask the earth to stop spinning.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
Watkins took JJ's statement out of context
While I was not there, in talking with someone who was, Watkins is taking the statement out of context. More specificaly it was about the protection of the QB by the middle of the Oline. He said that as an orgination they made an error in their evaluations of the middle of the Oline. It was not about whether Romo or Eli or better, but who had the better protection.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
by Birddog26 on Jan 23, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Either way, that's scary.
Jerry is the one making personnel decisions, with a little bit of input from Garrett and some others. So the situation is that the guys evaluating talent for this team either threw their QB under the bus or are horrible at seeing the obvious (that the interior OL was terrible and under prepared after cutting Gurode and Holland).
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry just needs to avoid public statements that don't involve press conferences or one on one interviews
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Well said BD
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
This is ridiculous
Jerry didn’t throw Romo under the bus.
Go to the mothershipamd read the full article, nothing of the sort. Calvin Watkins works for ESPN, and PFT have agendas to fabricate controversy so they can generate site hits.
This is from from Jerry Jones
1) “QB is not an area that needs much improvement” (given Kitna’s retirement, that means they’re just looking for a backup).
2) “I though Romo was competing at a level that would have given us an opportunity (to make a run like the giants), but the rest of us need to play and get better before we can really jell the way the Giants are.”
Seriously people, I know some of you can’t find it in yourselves to believe Eli is a good QB who played well this year. It’s not an insult to Tony Romo, who also played well and threw for more TDs and less INTs than Eli, to acknowledge Eli played well.
Jerry actually threes the OLine and secondary under the bus with his comments:
-mainly he questioned Newman’s talent and ability to continue playing.
-he also said that while they wanted to play young guys on the offensive line, they need to improve the protection up the middle.
Seriously Jerry wasn’t blasting his QB or trying to light a fire under his a$$. It’s typical controversy fabrication which most of you fell for.
However that doesn’t mean Jerry shouldn’t have opened his mouth. this is just another example of Jerruah putting his foot in his mouth because he can’t keep a coherent sentence going which he didn’t rehearse and prepare before hand.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Threes=threw
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Well some are just PAINFULLY stupid
Unable to accept that the NFL has evolved and a different league, Dilfer knows the QB position and knows it well. Better than what most analysts know about their position or the game in general.
Right, it's not just that he was an NFL QB
Not all analysts are built the same. Some are simply better than others. Steve Young is experienced and very bright, but he is far too influenced by his emotional involvement in the topic to analyze well.
Don't believe everything you think.
and thats the problem
As bill parcells would say you is what you is .. dallas is a 8-8 team..
But did anyone really look into why this team is 8-8 besides blamen tnew and costa???
Until then this team will do what it have been doing for the past 6 to 7 years.
by lostar2009 on Jan 23, 2012 9:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
i didnt really want to see Dallas make the playoffs & get beat in the first round bc lack of talent
hopefully Dallas can fix that defense & keep the running game going.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
well he really only tanked one game
and my biggest complaint about him is that he poos his pants a couple games a year, but playing well in 14 out of 16 games doesn’t strike me as inconsistent.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Dilfer, Danny White, Troy Aikman, Roger Staubauch. They've all said
much the same thing. Would I blame Romo for going? No. He’s taken more crap than any other QB in the NFL, and there’s no doubt that there are a whole bunch of teams out there that would snap him up. I guess it depends on how the team does in the next couple of years. If they go deep into the playoffs and/or make a Super Bowl run, I can’t see him leaving or Jones letting him. If we get the status quo, particularly on the O line, I could see him moving on to try and get that ring elsewhere.
Shannahan & Synder would be all over Romo
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Jacksonville, Cleveland, Arizona, Oakland, Seattle
That’s just off the top of my head.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Yeah but they don't know football like lostar
that’s what you’re missing here.
Don't believe everything you think.
Is that what you think when guys like Deion and Marshall Faulk speak?
Because I’m guessing that they know football pretty well, also. Everyone has an opinion.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
The Jets probably would have won...
back to back Super Bowls with Romo, and the media would have considered him the best QB of all time, even before he won them.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
If Romo doesn't go to Cabo he would be looked at in a different way.
Truth be told he shouldn’t have gone.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Not this again
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Yeah, typical Mensa:
Say something pretty reasonable, and then put the world’s most unreasonable spin on it.
“Dumb people rake Romo over the coals for going to Cabo”
…
THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE:
“He shouldn’t have gone…”
It's simple really...
If he doesn’t go, the perception of him wouldn’t be what it is…..not hard to fathom.
Romo going to Cabo had nothing to do with Dallas losing. None what so ever.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 24, 2012 5:51 AM CST up reply actions
Ok, I'll be honest
If Tony leaves after his contract is up, then that’s his choice. And, if anyone ever did, he certainly deserves a chance at playing for a legit contender. And I will miss him.
However, I’m a Cowboys fan. That, by default, makes me a Romo fan while he’s with the Cowboys. If he goest and plays (or even becomes a backup like Kitna did), then I get behind whomever the Cowboys put behind center to replace him. It’s a business decision for him and JJ but I don’t have any $ invested in this beyond the cost of my season tickets.
If Tony leaves – good riddence. Best of luck and hope that you NEVER win a SB as I will continue to cheer the Boys and hope that they win it all.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 23, 2012 8:57 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I've always felt that way, too. The 'net has corrupted me. Obviously, if it affected
the Cowboys, I’d have to root against him. But otherwise, I’d cheer if he got that ring.
As my favorite player out of everyone in NFL history Romo would get my support and so would his new team.
But they would be 2nd behind the Cowboys.
It wasn't a public dis. this is not some rap/twitter war. this isn't biggie tupac
This one idiot owner’s comments being cherry picked by ESPN and PFT because they love to fabricate controversy to generate Internet traffic.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I'm with you 100% on this.
I’m a fan of the Cowboys first and individual players a distant second. If it’s not the Cowboys, I don’t want any team winning the SB.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
lol. I shudder to think of the strange permutations my mind might have gone through to arrive at that spelling.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 23, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
hes not as good as
Danhny White
at Danny got ius to NFC championship game
big numbers mean nothing
RINGS do
"Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?"
Not even close
With Romo at QB instead of White, DAL wins that game at SF at least and I would never have to hear about that stupid Catch.
'I have wasted Time and Time doth waste me'
Jerry Jones as Richard II - Act 5, Scene 5
ROMO COSTS US GAMES SOMETIMES!!!
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 23, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Every QB has cost his team games.
Every. Single. One of them.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Yup,
And the way I have seen Romo play in the biggest moments, we probably do not beat the ’9ers.
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 23, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. What Terry said.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
See comment below...
I think you are forgetting that the win over the Niners was sandwiched between games that the good Mr. Romo gifted away.
There is no way Romo outduels Montana and the early 90’s 49ers.
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 24, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
This goes to all of you...
An Alex Smith-led 49ers team is so far removed from the Montana-led dynasty that I can not believe the parallel was made. If it wasn’t for Coach Harbaugh’s mistake, we probably do not beat (even,) this rendition of the 49ers…
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
And Romo is personally responsible for the lack of rings
I love this answer. A total absence of thinking. Just say “SBs are all that count”. By that logic Ware and Witten suck too.
Don't believe everything you think.
Dilfer and Brad Johnson>>>>>>>>>>>Marino
by that logic
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Plunkett was money on the Raiders.
Great deep ball passer.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Romo is easily our 3rd best QB in franchise history.
And that’s only because he has produced Super Bowls. His stats are the best.
Romo's redemption
will happen N.Y. when he gets his Superbowl victory in 2014. Wouldn’t that be sweet?
by letsgtld on Jan 23, 2012 9:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions
in N.Y. as a Cowboy. I think the sb is there that yr. am I right?
by letsgtld on Jan 23, 2012 9:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
you are correct & i would take a super bowl in any city lol
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Interesting Point
But I still see Romo re-signing. Its horrible that so many Cowboy fans treat him like trash when he’s arguably the best player on the team. We give him an old, shitty OL then demand miracles. We give him no running game and demand he does it himself. We give him a pourous defense and demand he outscores the other team. Then when we inevitably fail, its somehow his fault. Romo is capable of taking a team all the way, we just need to give him a team good enough to go. I think Jerry and Jason are doing their best by trying to go “Romo friendly.” It started with Tyron Smith and 2 other OL in the draft last year. It’ll probably end up with interior OL help this year plus a better running game with Murray/Jones and keeping Robinson around.
+1
no way Dallas lets him walk unless they really muff things up this season & Garrett gets the axe. all they can do is add more talent & hope things come together on the field.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Said many times
The Dallas Cowboys have failed Tony Romo to a much greater degree than he has failed the team
'I have wasted Time and Time doth waste me'
Jerry Jones as Richard II - Act 5, Scene 5
Be more specific. Which member of the Dallas Cowboys' organization has failed Tony?
Lifelong Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
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I would love to show you the finer points to a muay thai clinch whipped knee to the face seanrude
by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Objection denied
Lifelong Cowboys Fan from the Swamps of Jersey
My Beer Blog: http://tiltingsuds.wordpress.com/
I would love to show you the finer points to a muay thai clinch whipped knee to the face seanrude
by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Yes, the plaintiff WILL answer!
Tdships…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 23, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
Jerry Jones
Of course
'I have wasted Time and Time doth waste me'
Jerry Jones as Richard II - Act 5, Scene 5
And who put the defense together? Who put the o-line together? Who has the final say on personnel decisions?
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I would love to show you the finer points to a muay thai clinch whipped knee to the face seanrude
by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
If Eli wins sb this yr and after signing name in cb stadium, taking a Lombardi there wood be some good media stuff to eat up
by letsgtld on Jan 23, 2012 9:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Extremes much?
I do not have a problem with Tony’s play. He is a very good/borderline great Qb.
However, Tony has cost us games most other Qbs would have won. He is culpable in those cases. He has also won us games very few Qbs could have won.
You can certainly say this year his play did not cost us a playoff birth. He played excellent down the stretch and overall had a superior year.
MacGruber!
With that out of the way...
I am not a mind reader but it has always seemed like all the angst within the team has been drubbed up by the media. Tony has always seemed happy to be here despite being crapped on every week by the press and public. He has even reworked his contract for the betterment of the team.
I just don’t see any indications he might decide to leave.
Would it be better for his legacy? Free agents are never held in the same regard as home grown talent. And hell, this IS the Dallas Cowboys… I can’t see how he would want to leave if there is even a slight chance of winning a championship.
MacGruber!
I disagree with
“most other QBs” But I do agree he has made some throws “better Quarterbacks” wouldn’t have made
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
The only fundamental gap I see in his game
is that he has a very good arm, but not “elite” arm strength. So there are throws that some QBs can get away with that he can’t. For example Rodgers can throw a ball he probably shouldn’t because it will get there so fast the defender probably can’t react in time to make a play. Romo’s arm is more like Brees or P Manning – throws have to be more accurate in terms of placement and anticipation because they can’t make up for being late or forcing into a tight window with velocity.
Don't believe everything you think.
Well how about rephrasing
Instead of saying ‘most other quarterbacks’ lets say..
We have lost games where average quarterback play would have probably resulted in a win. It is certainly not scientific but I think you can make an ‘eye-test’ judgement.
Paraphrasing somewhat-
Everybody has their ups and downs. He has games in which his play is below the NFL average. I don’t consider it an overly critical statement.
MacGruber!
Completely agree
I wasn’t a fan of either Redskins game this year to be honest
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
Ha!
You mean games that average quarterbacks, if handed the lead Romo built, could have finished the games?
Average quarterbacks don’t build 3 possession leads, so they don’t have a chance to blow them.
Let me know when Mark Sanchez lights someone up for three quarters, builds a 20 point lead, then throws 3 picks and loses. It won’t happen, simply because average quarterbacks don’t build those leads.
With average quarterback play, the Jets hang close with us, and we lose by virtue of the blocked punt.
With average quarterback play, Detroit rolls us without needing to come back from any defecit.
My most recent fanpost:
The Weekly Chessmatch: Cowboys @ Eagles
by CotySaxman on Jan 23, 2012 2:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sick to my stomach
It makes me sick to see the giants going to the superbowl again. I despise them and their fan base so much, 3 times since 2000? C’mon seriously
by It's Our Deztiny88 on Jan 23, 2012 9:52 AM CST reply actions
Hey, dude
they deserve it. They took a game from us.
At least it is the NFC East and not the ’9ers spreading a stereotype that the NFCW is not that bad.
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 23, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
What I take from it is something similar
Dallas held its own with all of the final 4 teams, winning one and being in position to win the others. That at least tells me that they aren’t as far from future success as some of us have feared. Shore up the offensive interior, add some pass rush and add some decent secondary help and they are right back in the fray.
Don't believe everything you think.
yep, we get a better OL and secondary and the GMen and the rest of the East are in big trouble
In Romo we Trust
I am all about the lines this offseason.
C and DE, in particular.
CB should be picked up in FA rather than drafted, IMO.
And, please God, can we have an elite Safety again? It is like when I pray for a Center as a Suns fan…
What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?
by BlueNSilverBlood on Jan 23, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Watching the Giants last night
really makes you appreciate what good OL and DL can do for a team. They have a flawed secondary and only one excellent WR, but they controlled the game pretty well against a solid if unspectacular SF team. It doesn’t ensure wins, but it makes the Giants competitive in every game.
A lot of fans and most of the media slobbers and obsesses WAAAY too much over perimeter players and ignore what really makes up a solid team.
Don't believe everything you think.
The Mara Family is a million times better than the Jones Family
when it comes to everything about football.
I could see Romo pulling a Reggie White circa 1993, wanting to leave a team that just doesn’t have what it takes in order to join a true up-and-coming contender. I hope he doesn’t though…
Dallas has no one waiting in the wings to fill his spot.
Jerry would have to draft a QB this year and have him ready to play to even consider not resigning Romo. As long as he stays healthy he should get another big pay day. Dallas is not known for developing QBs, Romo was a fluke.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Dilfer is dead on correct, Romo is great
and no question in my mind that SF and Baltimore would be playing in the SB if they had Romo instead of Flacco or Smith.
It would be sad to see Romo sign elsewhere to get a ring he so richly deserves, but if Garrett drafts well next few years and we get some key FA signings, I think Romo will want to re-sign, get a ring and finish his career as a Cowboy.
In Romo we Trust
Especially SF
Harbaugh had him roll out to escape the pass rush, but Smith can’t throw on the run. At all. Just that alone probably wins the game.
Don't believe everything you think.
No kidding. I thought he was trying to hit his receivers in the feet all afternoon..
I started out with nothing and still have most of it left
The QB play stunk.
Romo would of out played any of the QBs yesterday IMO.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
well as much as I hate to admit it.......
Manning played pretty darn good yesterday. He got the crap beat out of him, but he kept on getting back up. I don’t think Romo would have played better than Manning did yesterday, because our Oline is much worse than the Giants. The way the niners were playing yesterday on defense, I think Romo would have probably been hurt because these are the same guys that hurt his ribs in game 2 of the season. The 49ers should have won yesterday but the Giants lucked out with the 2 fumbles.
I really think Eli has taken a step up at the end of last year and this year
I would now trust him as a QB on any team.
Don't believe everything you think.
well now, apparently Jerry has opened his mouth again......
when Jerry was asked about the difference in the Cowboys and Giants-Jerry responded-the difference is Eli.
agreed dunk.....
Eli is playing extremely well now. For those in denial, he is setting 4th quarter comebacks. He’s been lights-out.
Eli should have had at least 2 picks and his fumble should have gone the other way
but his luck held out
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 23, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
I want everyone to think about something...that Says Romo can't win in the playoffs
Look at the Houston Texans… with a 5th round rookie QB, they were able to not only win a playoff game, but give the Ravens a run for their money….
Most analysists were saying that if Schaub(texans #1 QB) hadn’t been hurt, they would have won the Ravens game, and Might even be playing in the Super Bowl….
and Regardless of what you might think I am sure We can All agree: Romo>Schaub…..
Just something to think about…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM CST reply actions
this is something I have come to accept about Romo
you have to take the good and the bad with him because there are like 2 games a year where the old Romo shows up
but those other 14 games, the guy is brilliant
I have come to accept the good and the bad with him, I call it, the gift and the curse, the same thing that makes him great, can hurt him at the same time
Romo has been a real bargain financially too, and he is always willing to cut his contract down to make room to sign guys, but nobody ever talks about that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:31 AM CST reply actions
Tom Brady has bad games...remember the game against the Bills?
Peyton Manning’s had several huge ones. Brett Favre? ZOMG. Eli Manning? LULZ!!!!!!!!! Drew Brees has bad days and so does every other QB. Romo just has this stigma about him of the missed FG hold. Another reason why I hated Parcells. DON’T HAVE YOUR STARTING QB HOLD ON THE FG TEAM!!!!!!!!
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
those guys have rings though man
lets not get off topic
if Romo had a ring or rings, the bad days would be more than acceptable, but when you haven’t won anything, the bad days are going to get put under a microscope
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah they have rings which absolves them of any error...
Please. The discussion is whether or not to bring back Romo, you’re saying that he has bad days…I’m responding every has bad days, and every QB will have bad days going forward. If Romo leaves you’ll have to replace him, the options to upgrade over him are practically non-existant. Furthermore, if you’re worried about the games where “the old Romo” shows up? Well there’s games where the bad version of every QB shows up. No matter who QBs this team there’s always going to be QBs that have bad days. So bringing it up isn’t really germane to the “should he come back” conversation.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
This is why is bugs me to no end to see Eli in the Super Bowl again
I know I will never hear the end of it in the media how Eli is ELITE or a much better QB than Romo, even though he has never turned in a better season than Romo in his entire career. Romo has consistently been one of the top QBs over the course of a season. Personally I don’t think you can call a QB elite until he turns in a QB rating of 100+ for a season. Romo now MEETS THE CRITERIA, however that alone doesn’t make you elite.
Few other QBs in the league have had to shoulder their teams the way Romo has his entire career. Some QBs are able to ride great defensive play, running games, etc to success (Eli, Big Ben, etc). Meanwhile QBs like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Tony Romo have to shoulder a bad defense, bad running game, and porous special teams units for entire seasons. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have the skills to do this and still have success, but that is a little too much weight for Romo.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." –Vince Lombardi
by ProBowlFactory on Jan 23, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, its gonna suck hearing about how great Eli is
I mean look at the headlines today… “Is Eli better than Peyton?”… really? Media overreaction is always fun.
"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 23, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
I think Eli is better than Peyton
I really do
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
lol
that is all.
"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote
by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 23, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
You can't be serious.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Eli Manning in my opinion
is the best QB in football right now
just my opinion and people will get on me for that in here,but he is playing at an extremely high level right now
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
If that ball doesn't ding Kyle Williams' knee you wouldn't be saying that.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
why
who says the 49ers even score on that drive if he didnt fumble in OT? the 49ers didn’t do anything well except for 2 plays to Vernon Davis and they ran the ball well but went away from it
if Williams doesnt fumble in OT, I think the 49ers punt and then Eli wins that game for the Giants
Eli Manning is balling right now, frankly he has been balling all year
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
I still think Rodgers is better...
but Eli is a winner. He knows how to win big games.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
by LDVFootball on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
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Really? Dude seriously? No one’s saying he’s playing at the level he did last year and frankly no one is saying that he isn’t good. But come on. He got every break possible yesterday and barely won, no one’s saying that the Niners would have scored on that drive but they basically gave the Giants points. You’ve gone downhill since the radio show, Chia. Maybe there’s something about being on the radio or TV that makes your opinions bland and stale. ;)
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
lol
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
That's not like you Chia
to nisjedge talent. Eli is playing well. But Rodgers and Brees are much better, and there’s a whole grouping of guys that include Romo, Rivers, Brady (only because I think he’s dinged up, otherwise he’s in group one), and a couiple of others are as good as or better.
People get their logic all tangled up when they try to judge an individual’s ability and then count as the first attribute something only a whole team can accomplish – wins and championships. If Williams doesn’t cough up a hairball of a game, Smith is going to the SB. Is HE the best QB in football then? A quality QB has an influence on winning, but winning can’t be the measure of a QBs individual skills.
Don't believe everything you think.
I have watched this guy since he entered the NFL
I live in NY
Eli is just a great QB, he has a great arm, is accurate and does a great job of moving around out of the pocket
he also waits to the last possible second to throw the football
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
I watch him a lot too
This year he’s finally living up to the rep the media gave him in 2007. He’s a good QB, but he’s not the best. His accuracy alone leaves him out of that grouping. He has good accuracy but not elite.
Don't believe everything you think.
The accuracy Eli demonstrated on the TD pass to Nicks
to end the half in the GB game was elite. He has been throwing the ball like that all year. He gives his receivers even when they are double covered a chance at the ball. Meanwhile, Romo demonstrated a tendency all year to throw to the receiver who was single covered. Of course, there is always Dez to blame for Romo’s inadequacies…
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
by LDVFootball on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
He's playing well right now
but look at his completion %. People can apply their baises to the
eyeball test" but over the course of Eli’s career, his accuracy is NOT elite.
And the single coverage comment is laughable. Anyone can throw into double coverage if they can throw into single. People b**** like crazy when Romo throws into coverage. Even when he completes them. The fact is that Dallas doesn’t have an WRs who fight for the ball except Dez, and Dez needs to refine his route running before they’ll trust him to do that. So I highly suspect that JG wants nothing to do with the Eli “jump ball” play with his receivers.
Don't believe everything you think.
Miles Austin doesn't fight for the ball?
He has literally taken the ball out of the defender’s arms several times.
by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
2 TOUCHDOWNS this season were from Austin fighting for the ball.
Week 1 vs Cromartie
Week 15 vs the bucs.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Too bad he missed most of the weeks inbetween.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
yeah.. An offseason with W. might change that.
Soft tissues have always been a problem for Austin but they are very correctable.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I mean players get injured, right?
Do you think people are saying AP’s a scrub now? He’s out for the year and had two season ending injuries in college!!!!! The Vikings should trade for Felix Jones (but srsly that would be awesome). Football’s a violent game and sometimes players get hurt.
Still played ten games
And 16 games in back to back years the past two years. Please, the “Miles can’t stay healthy” meme is overplayed.
Eli threw a lot of bad passes against SF
He should have been picked off at least three times from my memory on plays where Niner defenders ran into each other.
He’s had some luck on this run, don’t kid yourself
In Romo we Trust
Overreaction much?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Oh yeah ... Mr Eli "clutch" Manning
Situation: 49ers just kick field goal to tie the game with 5:43 left on the clock in the 4th quarter.
What does Eli do? Of course, according to the Eli lovers, he drives them down the field to win the game. Oh wait, that’s not what happened. In fact, the Giants get the ball three 3 times with a chance to go down and get the winning score, and what happens? Nothing.
No wait … it gets better. Giants get the ball twice in OT and fail to do anything with it. ONLY after WIlliams fumbles the ball on the 24 yard line that the Giants rush the ball 4 times before kicking the game winning field goal.
5 chances to put points on the board and Eli gets nothing — it was only after a special teams fumble that Eli “works his magic” and is able to hand the ball off without fumbling. Of course, he’ll get credited with another “game winning drive.” That’s Mr. Clutch for you.
Eli Manning is balling right now, frankly he has been balling all year
Eli … he be balling alright … actually, let’s make that he’ll be bawling in about 13 days after the Patriots expose the holes in the backend of the Giant’s D.
jerry jones is an idiot and this team will never win a SB with him playing this same role
of incompetent GM, the sad part is he doesn’t have a reason to change, he owns the money, he seems to not care enough to give up and he knows there’ll always be people giving him a free pass just because jimmy won 3SB’s a decade ago, he doesn’t have a reason to change this team isn’t going anywhere until he finds that reason
this is romo’s related because yeah, the team is letting him down, i would say the cowboys organization and the decision makers not the players
im really tired of the lets blame jerry game...
there is nothing we can do about it, and the organization as a whole has been better with recent drafts. JG has more input than most ppl think, and hes taking this team in the right direction. It starts with the RKG’s and it all comes down to the players performing on the field.
The way I see it
The Cowboys will be resigning Romo and he will probably agree to it. The only way I see that not happening would be if we had the top pick in the NFL Draft and a chance to draft a Peyton Manning-esque (a la Andrew Luck) prospect or just a top Tier QB. Then the team is presented with a discussion to move on from Romo to a younger QB and a new face of the franchise for the next 15 years or so.
We all would hate for that to happen because that is another season of misery, however, I doubt that will happen as this team I feel is going in the right direction, and after this off-season will have the right pieces and be too good to not be considered a playoff contender. And at that, way too talented to finish a season 1-15 or something similar.
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." –Vince Lombardi
by ProBowlFactory on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 AM CST reply actions
idk how Romo leaves this team
that would shock me, it really would
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 11:44 AM CST reply actions
Romo will retire a Dallas Cowboy
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I'd extend him this offseason.
I think he can stay at a high level until he’s 36. He started playing later so he’s got more in the tank than his age suggests.
I think a lot of this depends on how Garrett feels about him after next season
…and whether or not they find a viable replacement to groom in the upcoming draft.
"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
I dont think they are going to draft a QB honestly
for some reason Garrett loves McGee
look, McGee is a nice athlete and a good kid, he just isnt NFL material
I like the kid but I dont see it
next years draft I would start the draft a QB in the 1st round talk, its come a time where we need to get the next guy in line and start getting him prepared
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Garrett loves McGee?
Is that why they put in a claim for Kyle Orton and kept postponing putting Kitna on IR? The Cowboys are very worried about McGee. Three years in, and they still don’t trust him.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 23, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that doesn't mean they dont like him
Garrett obviously has something for McGee
look at the way he interacted with him during the preseason
if the Cowboys draft a QB I will be amazed, now they may sign a QB in free agency, like a Jason Campbell or Shaun Hill, but I just don’t see them drafting a QB
they should be worried about him, another one of the fabulous 2009 draft picks
I think a lot of teams put a claim in on Kyle Orton, its just a smart football decision
I believe the Cowboys see something in McGee, but at the same time would love to get a quality backup and keep McGee
I don’t see anything in McGee as a NFL quarterback
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 23, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, Garrett does have something for McGee...
A seat on the bench. I don’t think he really likes McGee that much, maybe he thinks that McGee MIGHT be something, but I don’t think Garrett’s sitting in his office saying “Wow this dude could replace Romo and take us to the promised land!” or anything like that. He played a lot better against Philly than what he gets credit for, he didn’t get sacked all day despite running for his life the whole game.
by Omar Little on Jan 23, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
well we will see if bring in a FA qb...
If mcgee is the next man up or our 2 nd qb we will simply draft a qb to develop..
If we grab one out of FA and pay for him… Mcgee is on his way out..
Anyways this is a crucial year to get a qb to develop.. Tarnehill might be available in the 2 nd..
by lostar2009 on Jan 23, 2012 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Cowboys won't waste a 2nd Rd pick on a project like Tannehill.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
God forbid!
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
on
Cousins I could see that
"Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?"
I have to agree with OCC and Birddog
McGee is nothing more than the 3rd string QB, but can be great at it. However this team wants a backup, a # 2 that can come in and play in a pinch if Romo goes down. I don’t see a mediocre guy like Jason Cambell or Shaun Hill coming in FA, it will cost too much and I’ve seen enough of those two FAs to know Dallas won’t do it.
Shaun Hill can’t throw a simple 10 yard out route w/o grunting in pain, he’s got short arms and small hands. I got to watch Hill extensively at 49ers TC in the Summer of 2009, and every throw Kitna makes with ease, Hill has to use all his might just to get the ball any kind of decent spin and purpose.
As far as Jason Cambell is concerned, he’s just damaged goods. He’s got zero confidence to keep his eyes down field as the pass rush gets to him. He’s a poor man’s Alex Smith. Cam bell can’t move the offense on schedule consistently. He’ll take a chance on an occasional deep ball, but he’s looking to run if his first or second read is gone.
The Boys are drafting a guy to be their # 2 in the mid to late rounds of this draft, who at a minimum can be the backup, and potentially be Tony’s heir apparent.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
McGee does a good job as a #3 QB.
He runs the scout team offense well, he helps Garrett on gamedays on the sideline. He will never develop into a star QB in the NFL but he can be a great #3 QB in his role with the Cowboys.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
oh I think
they ar looking at Harnish
"Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?"
Harnish is garbage. reminds me of mcgee. Scared to throw. Looks to scramble
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Blings, Garrett isn't going to change his feelings about Romo
He knows he’s a great qb and will ride him as long as the guy wants to keep playing.
In Romo we Trust
Even if Romo wanted to leave
would there be an opportunity on a team with a markedly better shot at a title? This year, Baltimore, San Francisco and maybe the Jets are the only teams that are in a clearly better situation talent-wise than the Cowboys AND might be interested in dumping their current starter. Obviously we don’t know where teams will be in two more seasons, but it’d take a unique situation for Romo to believe that leaving the team he knows for one he doesn’t will give him a far better shot at winning a title.
by AikmanGeneration on Jan 23, 2012 12:45 PM CST reply actions
I have to say
I got to watch Aikman make his run from 92-95, and I’m thankful for the 3 SBs that the triplets pulled out. But I would trade at least one of those 3 SBs from the 1990s to see Romo get his. Romo deserves better from his team, the analysts, and the fans.
Anyone who questions his leadership, toughness, and courage under fire obviously didn’t watch him fight to get back into the Monday Night game when he separated his shoulder, they ripped his helmet from him on the sidelines, and the first words out of his mouth as the training staff and team doctors went to him was “did we score?” They also missed the 49ers game where he told Kitna “I got this” after Kitna’s relief effort put the Boys in a whole. With a punctured lung and bruised ego (from what happened in Week 1), it would have been easy to let Kitna remain out there and crap the bed. Tony didn’t let that happen. He cam back and engineered the come back, which is now up for vote in the GM Never Say Never contest.
I wasn’t sure how Tony would respond to the way the 2008 season collapsed and how T.O. threw him under the bus. He came back and led the team to the playoffs and the team’s first playoff win since the Wild Card beat down of the Vikings in 1996. Has this team taken the next step since the 2009 season? No. However, this isn’t all on him.
If the current 3 year rebuilding plan proves futile, I don’t know what I’d do if I was Tony. As a fan I’d like to believe he’d want to stay and see this through in Dallas. But, I wouldn’t fault him if he chose to try and win a ring with another team.
As I said last night on the NFC Title Game Thread, I believe that in the upcoming 2012-2013 season, which is the 20th Anniversary season of the Triplets first SB together, Romo and the Cowboys will win # 6. Don’t ask me how or why, because I can’t answer it. However, I see a similar type of run that the 2009 Saints had.
I still believe in Tony, and I will never stop pulling for this team, and I still believe Jason’s got this team going in the right direction.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Let's put this in perspective...
If Romo became a free agent tomorrow…there’s a team in every division (2 in some) that would make a run at Romo. Furthermore, they’d offer him more money than he’s getting here. There are some fans that are clueless about this…
Agreed
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Then the Ravens and Broncos...of all playoff teams
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Imagine Romo playing on that team as is. Truly frightening.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Let's put his in perspective.
If Romo becomes a free agent in two years teams won’t be lining up to sign him. They will go and get a young guy. You might have two or three teams that think they are close.
But they will be getting a guy who had a team loaded with Offensive talent and couldn’t get it done.
by Sharksbreath on Jan 23, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Loaded?? You're truly delusional
His OL has failed him so many times it’s not even funny, not to mention his defense. Cowboys haven’t been loaded in any kind of significant talent since the dynasty days in the 90s.
Romo can’t get it done all by himself and neither can any other qb. Ever notice that all HOF qbs have one thing in common??
They all played for great teams….Romo never had that kind of luck.
In Romo we Trust
How often did he have great receivers?
He has had one or two weapons out there, but he has also had Roy Willie and the walking wounded to work with for many games.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
This year at times I'd say...
Didn’t he have TO and Terry Glenn with Witten one year? I mean that’s still a pretty solid WR corps.
This opinion is a loaded fallacy
The team lacks talent at G, C , DT, DE, CB, SS, FS, TE#2, OLB#2, ILB#2, KR, PR
That’s 11 positions on this team lacking talent.
QB, WR, OT, TE#1, RB #1, OLB #1, ILB#1, K, P (for now) are the only positions that has talent.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
So you are saying next year is too soon for a ring?
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
But lacking talent at the many positions, how is it possible?
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Well the Giants allowed more points than they scored.
They’re weak at the LB core and their corners kinda suck. Dunno too much about their return game, or other positions but every team has holes. Some have lots and still manage to win.
Those teams don't have as MANY holes.
More importantly, they make for their "holes with superior leadership and coaching. The Pats. 32nd defense. Headin’ to Indy.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Belichick is a god...
Seriously, I think he’s the best coach of my lifetime and it’s not even close.
Brady made Bellichick.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 24, 2012 5:55 AM CST up reply actions
no way.
Totally the other way around.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
RANDOM STATEMENT PRETENDING LIKE IT'S ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!
Little of column A, little of column B. A lot of they’re both really good at what they do.
But you're right
Fill the big holes and try to compensate for the holes you do have with your schemes.
#6 in2012. Jeterian gets his SB team
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Nope. I'm on the record that the Boys win #6 in 2012-2013
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Surprises happen
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
This, despite YOUR 11 positions of little talent?
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Draft and free agency
And new position coaches can help change that
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
All eleven? In one off season?
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Just not gonna happen.
A more prudent forecast is that JG learns how to handle late game situations next season and they do better than 8-8. Just toooooo many areas of concern. And lets not forget that the other teams in the division are not just sitting still.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
It will all be worth the heartache one day... just wait!
I see all these posts about, “oh man, if Tony were a Raven or 49er, they would be unstoppable”. I’m not gonna lie, I’ve thought the same thing. But what we need to be thinking is “oh man, what if we had an ‘Ed Reed’ or a beast front seven like SF or NYG”. If we’re gonna fantasize, might as well be with stars on the helmets. It starts in the draft, and I truly believe JG and TR are the guys to get us there. It will happen one day and all this heart ache will be worth it.
Great POV, OCC.
And I would add the question “Is it his coaching staff that is keeping the team from it’s trophy”?. But to answer the question, if “the process” is successful next season, i.e. more wins, playoffs,etc., then I would expect Tony to re-sign. It seems to me he is happy in his working environment. But if next season shows no discernible progress towards a ring within 2 years then he might just surprise us.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
you know...
ive never thought about it that way, mostly because i can never imagine Romo in another uniform, but if he went to another team and did it with class, i would probably quietly cheer him on.
Copy that.
Romo has never been given his proper due. He is absolutely a supreme athlete and a top 3 QB in this league. Period. Much like Marino, he is surrounded by lesser talent and IMO a very questionable coaching staff.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Very questionable gm.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 23, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
Romo has played well enough to get us into the post-season. Others, not so much. I don't think the Cowboy's problems
rest with Tony. As far as the O goes, it’s the pass-protection that keeps the Cowboys from moving up in our division, and into the playoffs. As far as the D goes, we can’t stop the Giants or the Eagles at all, ever. How can the Cowboys reach the SB, if we can’t even beat the teams in our division. The Eagles made the Cowboys look like the Washington Generals, and the Eagles couldn’t even make the playoffs. Thanks to everyone for your 2012 draft posts. Interesting reading.
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Romo Nowitski?
It’s so funny to me how the two guys are so similar. Faces of their respective DFW franchises. Always the souce of blame for their respective teams failures. I have grown up a big time Cowboys & Mavs fan so I have been watching them both, living and dying with them over their career’s and it’s just shocking to me how similar they are. If Dirk hadn’t finally gotten over the hump it might be a lil less noticeable to some. Basically Dirk and Tony are the same guy, the big time player on their team that sure gets alot of credit when things are going right, but seems to take all the heat when they go wrong. Who did anyone blame for the 06 Mavs collapse? ( I exclude the Ref’s here and am referring to players, we all know the ref’s decided the outcome ). Dirk took the blame, it wasn’t right, he was the only Mav who consistently showed up throughout those finals but they called him soft, a jump shooter, never win the big one, blah blah blah. Fast Forward to 2011, the Mavs Organization has finally surrounded him with what he called himself “Best team he’s ever been on” and what happened? TITLE, MVP, SWEET SWEET REDEMPTION. A run that can only compare to the Run’s of MJ. That’s right! When did Kobe and Shaq or anyone esle since Mike have to deal with the likes of a scary Portland team no one wanted in round one, the two time defending champs Lakers in round 2 (clears throat SWEPT), the young and ridiculous Thunder with the scoring champ and that lefty shooting rick ross lookin fella who never misses off the bench, only to meet the new Super Power HEATles in the Finals. Dirk WOULD NOT LOSE! He stepped up time and time again when it mattered. Now back to Tony, we have seen Tony do the same thing. We’ve seen the fourth quarter comebacks, We’ve seen him build huge leads against very good and capable opponents. We’ve seen him WIN BIG GAMES ( although the pundit’s and haters always disagree ) I guess the Philly Playoff game that gave us our first playoff win in oh I dunno 16 years wasn’t a big deal, freagin moron’s. Excuse me the idiots tend to bring it out of me, what was I saying oh yeah, We’ve seen Tony show the signs of greatness. So why the doubt? Why the question’s? Why all the blame? To borrow from my main man Wash, That’s how sports Go! The Leader, the Face, the Main Man, always gets the blame. Whether it’s his fault or not. This will not end for Tony until he wins the big one. Sure he is to blame at times just like Dirk, but the truth is he is far more the answer than he is the problem and their teammates were always far more the problem than they’ve been the answer. It took over a Decade for the Mavs to figure out the formula and the Cowboys are pushing Tony to year 7 with yet another year wasted thinking " Oh I’m sure the secondary will be fine", and " I’m sure the young O line with no camp and rookie’s and UDFA’s will be just fine" and " I’m sure having no other D lineman capable of rushing besides Ratliff will be fine" But yeah it’s Tony that’s the problem, just like it was Dirk…..Right?
by COWBOYS DIE HARD SON on Jan 23, 2012 5:51 PM CST reply actions
just a follow up
So because of this type of treatment to the star players, is it any surprise when they leave? Would anyone be surprised if Tony left for say I dunno Baltimore or NYJets a team that seems to just be a QB away? We like to try to run them off when they are here only to complain when they leave. If Lebron left home then their is no loyalty, not saying Tony’s Lebron by any means, just saying people will leave the most comfortable places to WIN, no matter how hard it is to leave. Here’s hoping the Boys get a solid team around Tony before it’s too late.
by COWBOYS DIE HARD SON on Jan 23, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Paragraphs are you friend.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Kobe and Shaquille in their first title run nearly got bounced in 7 games by a loaded Portland team in the WCF
Google the 1999-2000 Portland Trailblazers, that team had a ridiculous roster. They had the 3rd or 4th best record in the NBA, and they didn’t win their division.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
If we're not at least in the NFC Championship game by 2013
then no way Jerry re-signs him. How long must this drought continue? I’m tired of seeing other teams get five rings. The Cowboys have become a shadow of their storied history. I don’t think we will ever win a ring with Romo(and I honestly hope I’m wrong, and would gladly admit it). The people here that still think Romo is a better QB than Eli Manning just don’t get it. It’s about winning in January, that’s all.
I hope we draft well this year, and give it a strong go again next season. Romo’s legacy is on the clock. Tick, tick…..
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