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How Talented Are The Dallas Cowboys?

After years of disappointment, fans of the Dallas Cowboys tend to be a little morose about the talent level of the current team. Of late, a consensus has formed that there are a small handful of top level players and rising stars on the team, with most of the roster full of sub-par players that are holding the team back. And since we all know in our hearts that we are able to make better decisions about the team than Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and Jason Garrett combined, we cry out loudly to clear out the deadwood and bring in the talent that players like Tony Romo, Jason Witten and DeMarcus Ware deserve to have helping them.

The frustration is understandable, especially for fans of a team with the history of success that the Cowboys had up until the mid-nineties. It is also a reasonable conclusion that there have been some horrible personnel choices made since then. Now we are waiting with barely controlled impatience for free agency and the draft to roll around. It is time to get that new talent in here and dump some wasted paychecks.

But the reality is that Dallas will have about $20 million to spend in free agency, and probably eight draft choices total going into the draft (counting the expected compensatory pick for Stephen Bowen). Based on what we saw last season, that is not going to fix all the problems if the only way to solve things is to remove and replace.

There have recently been some reports that the coaching staff, particularly Bill Callahan and Jerome Henderson, think that some of the solutions may already be on the team. Is this another case of overvaluing the roster we have, which lead to unmitigated fiascoes like the 2009 draft? Or is there more to see when a coach is on the inside with all the video and evaluation tools they have?

Seeking answers after the jump.

Star-divide

I pulled out the picture of Jason Garrett and the new hires to put on my article for a reason. Arguably the two biggest weaknesses in 2011 were the offensive line (particularly late in the season) and the secondary (particularly any time the other team had the ball). These problems were addressed immediately when Dave Campo was not retained and Hudson Houck retired - and I will always wonder if Hudson received a little encouragement in making that decision. Regardless, two well regarded coaches were brought in to get those units up to speed. In addition, Stephen Jones has stated that the offensive line and the secondary are the two biggest priorities for upgrade in the off season.

But there is that nagging issue of numbers. Free agency can only go as far as the team can afford it to. While $20 million looks like an enormous sum to most of us, in the NFL it can only bring in so many players. If you want to go with a couple of real impact players, that would use up most of it. Or you can go with solid replacements that have a lower price tag, but even then, you are only talking about three or four new people to bring in. Then your draft choices can only be expected realistically to provide three starters, and that is very optimistic.

I think we all know that the team needs to upgrade the play at more than six or seven positions. And even then, the question becomes how much of an upgrade can you get, and there will also be the inevitable injury issues to address.

Callahan and Henderson are already signaling that they expect to find some of the answers already on the team. Bill came out and stated that the talent of the Cowboys was part of what drew him to the team. He praised the offensive skill positions, and then had this to say about his job coaching the offensive line.

"That's the exciting aspect of this job. All those pieces are in place. You're always trying to get better. Now it's just a matter of shoring up the offensive line, continuing to improve that aspect of these young players and their development and again, get in this playoff and try to take a run at it."

Jerome seems to be on the same page when he discussed the way he sees his task with the secondary.

"I'm sure there are guys in place that will be on this team that will be big contributors on this team," Henderson said. "I just don't know the roles and I don't know what I have to do with them to get them to where I want them to be or where they should be."

Is that a reasonable view, or is that way too close to the "we just need a couple of players to get back to the top" theory?

I chalk part of what they say up to trying to show a little self-confidence in themselves. After all, improving things was what they were hired to do, and you would not really expect them to be defeatist in their first couple of weeks on the job. And they may be trying to change some attitudes out there as well. But how realistic are they?

In Callahan's case, he may have something to stand on. He likes young players he can coach up, and he has that with the Cowboys. There is already one likely improvement that almost everyone expects, flipping Tyron Smith and Doug Free, which it is widely believed will lead to better performance at the tackle positions. And it is not unreasonable to think that at least one of the interior line positions will be successfully manned next season by a player already on the team. Two is certainly possible.

And he does say much the same as many here when he points to the skill positions as something to build on. Trent Dilfer puts it a little more bluntly when he looks at Tony Romo.

I think the issue here is he needs more help from his teammates. I think they are not nearly as talented as people say they are, from 1 to 53. I'm talking about the total roster.

There is that lack of talent thing again. But is talent a static thing? We all know that players decline at some point in their career. However, they also can develop, particularly young ones with limited experience. That is apparently Callahan's position, and he has a track record that shows he is able to make a real difference.

Jerome may have some disappointment ahead, however. While you can point to some positives with the offensive line, and the fact that historically those players take a season or two to develop, the secondary is a different situation. It is hard to see how the best coach in the world is going to turn Alan Ball into an effective cornerback, or to realistically expect that Terence Newman has a good season left in him. Plus, he is just starting to evaluate his players. A few hours with the video may change his mind.

The good news is that there is hope to get some fresh, capable bodies for Henderson to work with. The draft is deep in cornerbacks. Safety is problematic, but at least he should expect to see some serious help with the corners. And the secondary is not the only place the team is looking to upgrade defensively. A more effective pass rush would help take some of the pressure off the defensive backs. The team will likely be looking for a stud pass rusher, and maybe there are some other moves afoot to accomplish the same thing.

The time might be coming for the Cowboys to switch back (to a 4-3) too. Sean Lee would be a great middle linebacker, and the Cowboys don't have a true nose tackle. But Jay Ratliff would be a monster of a defensive tackle. Demarcus Ware as a pass-rushing defensive end? Yes, please.

The thought has also crossed the mind of Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett, who himself was a protege of Parcells.

"We played a lot of three-man line, and we also played some four-man line in different situations this past year," Garrett said told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram last week. "We haven't gotten to the point where we're going to talk about what we're going to play yet. We're still evaluating the tape. ... Let us go through the process. You'll see some of that stuff once we get back on the field."

I fully realize that Garrettspeak is not the easiest thing to glean information from, but that does sound like an open door to me. It would really spark some excitement among the BTB participants who feel the team just doesn't have good 3-4 personnel, and in the minds of some who ought to know, it is really more about how you line up the team, anyway.

Last summer much was made about New England's move to a 4-3 from a 3-4, which seemed to irk coach Bill Belichick.

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"Honestly, I think that's something that is a media fabrication. There are a lot of different alignments out there. You see 4-3 teams use odd spacing. You see 3-4 teams use even spacing. You have 11 players, you can put them in various positions. Whether you want to put it on the pre-game depth chart as one thing or another, I think is a little bit overrated."

As I have talked about before, the parts of a football team don't work in isolation. Improving one part (pass rush or pass protection) can lead to improvements in other areas (fewer passes completed against the secondary, more passes completed by the offense). You don't have to find all pros at all the positions, just make improvements overall. It looks like the team certainly has a plan for making the needed improvements, and the fact that going to a 4-3 is at least being looked at indicates that they are willing to explore whatever options might pay off.

Still, I feel a little concern reading the new coaches talking about what we already have. As you might be able to tell, I think there is certainly some hope on the offensive line, but I start getting really skeptical when the secondary gets into that conversation. My hope is that the team is able to get better performance from many of the players on the roster, because most of them will still be there when the 2012 season starts. And I really hope that there will be some key new faces to help shore up the problem areas. It's going to take some of both.

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Our secondary was the worst in the league. The only player worth a damn was Jenkins.

I don’t care how good Henderson is, without better secondary players we won’t be able to cover anyone next year. Even with a better pass rush we cannot count on the current roster to provide the necessary coverage.

Much more optimistic about the Yuglies especially if one David DeCastro joins the group.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 23, 2012 8:47 PM CST reply actions  

I would say that scandrick is ok but I’m hoping to have 2 new cbs on the team next year. Would love to have Chase minnefield and josh norman in the 2nd and 3rd round

by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 24, 2012 7:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with you

The line has promise and can use slightly fewer upgrades but the secondary should not be in that conversation.

I don’t expect the secondary coach to say everyone sucks and they need a whole new one…even if it’s true. But Alan Ball better not be on this team next year.

"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place."

by beWARE94 on Jan 23, 2012 8:50 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

I think one quality CB upgrades the whole secondary.

If Jenkins can stay healthy, that would help out a lot right there. Scandrick is here for at least a couple years, and he is average at least. Any decent young CB will be an upgrade over an injured Newman. I suspect Ball will be gone, because you can bring in a younger cheaper guy to be your 4th CB. The big question mark is FS. Sensabaugh is a quality SS, but I think Elam would be a better backup than starter. He’s serviceable for another year, though, as you can’t completely overhaul the team in one year.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

My feeling exactly

+1

I can't think of anything because I'm so fly.

by liquidblake on Jan 23, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Dallas Needs To Go Veteran FAs

at oline, say a center and a guard. Then move down a bit in round one to try and add a second round two pick to go with a slightly lower round one pick from the trade down. Then Dallas needs to find defensive players, including two corners, with the top four picks.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 24, 2012 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't assume Ball is gone

Yes, he pretty well sucks everywhere he’s been put, but on a 53 man roster there’s value to a “utility infielder” kinda guy. Ball can play CB and S in a pinch and does OK on special teams. 2 injury backups from a guy that will dress on Sunday is hard to throw away without some hard thinking.

by dteowner on Jan 24, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly ive already said this more than once

I’ve watched ball all year he played with bad out dated technique. He never played the qb or ball he played eyes hands and shoulders of the receivers. He was there in place just couldn’t make the play cause of technique. Ball might be here next year just cause he can play a multitude of positions when needed. Besides getting 3 corners before next season is a possibility but that still leaves you one injury away from playing a Saftey at that position and we saw how that went last year. If they feel like they need more depth I bet they keep ball and coach him up.

by Sado44 on Jan 24, 2012 4:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The position coaches are just that

They teach the assignments and technique of each position to their specific group of players. It would be a lost cause or self-fulfilling prophecy if Henderson came out and said the secondary played like crap because it’s void of any talent; as most of the current DBs would get down on themselves even more (Gerald will just count his $). He needs to say the right things so the players the team decides to retain buy into his methods.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 8:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Agree

. . . new position coach would have to say what these guys said; I recall Ryan saying about the same thing.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 24, 2012 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Not only that but

that’s RR’s style – everything said about his players in public is positive.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm expecting a lot of improvement next year, without too many moves.

The biggest areas that need improvement are CB, ILB, G, and C. Carter will upgrade ILB, as he can’t be worse, and will likely be much better due to athleticism. An early round CB will improve that spot, because again, they can’t be much worse than an injured Newman at the end of the year, due to athleticism.

That leaves G and C. I would love to see 2 guys acquired, one through free agency and one early in the draft. Then see if Callahan can either turn one of our coals into a diamond from Arkin, Nagy, Kowalski, or if Kosier or Holland can play at a decent level for an entire year.

I think the pass rush will improve if Hatcher can stay healthy, and they make sure that he, Lissemore, and Ratliff are in on obvious passing downs, and Spears, Brent, and Coleman are in on obvious running downs. If Spencer is retained, I’d like to see Butler or someone else spell him on obvious passing downs.

I think that 4 quality players is all that’s needed to drastically improve the team on both sides of the ball.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

I agree overall

At least 4 quality guys would improve this team on both sides.

However, I would include the safety position as a postion of upgrade as well.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree, but with whom?

Obviously Sensabaugh is staying and starting, and he’s at least average or slightly better, and durable. Elam is also durable and average to slightly below. Plus, he seems to have decent intelligence. I’d like to see him retained as a backup if nothing else. I don’t know if you can find an athletic, smart FS out there in either the draft or FA that is a legit upgrade, without sacrificing to improve more at another position. What I mean is, I think we can see a larger improvement at other positions than what we would see at S for what it would cost in either an early draft pick or salary cap.

by Baked Potato Soup on Jan 23, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

There are 5 really good safeties in this draft

1) Mark Barron: intelligent, instinctual, physical, and a ball hawk.

2) George Iloka: hits like LB, covers like CB at FS.

3,4) Markelle Martin & Tramain Thomas-these guys can hit, tackle, break up passes, and create turnovers.

5) The guy from Notre Dame (forgetting his name right now) he had 7 picks last year. Intelligent player, and can tackle.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Harrison Smith

is the safety from Notre Dame.

From the hometown of Bob Lilly,

by Long Ball on Jan 23, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

thank you

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

At Drafttek, we have the safeties ranked as follows:

Free Safety
1. Markelle Martin
2. Aaron Henry
3. Trenton Robinson
4. Eddie Whitley
5. George Iloka
6. Tysyn Harman

Strong Safety
1. Mark Barron
2. Antonio Allen
3. Harrison Smith
4. Brandon Taylor
5. Winston Guy
6. Duke Ihenacho

From the hometown of Bob Lilly,

by Long Ball on Jan 23, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree with Aaron Henry

1) The dude looked lost in the East-West Shrine game.
2) Too much injury history with him, he was at wisconsin since 2007.
3) He was terrible at CB that they moved himto safety.
4) He never forced many turnovers-important in the evaluation, either have said ability or you don’t.

Compare to Iloka
1) Guy has been a 3 yr starter at FS
2) He covers well and tackles well
3) He can force turnovers
4) He’s athletic enough that Boise used him at CB in it’s final 3 games due to injuries at the CB position.

Compare Henry to Tramain from Arkansas
1) Traimain was a tackle and turnover creating machine.
2) Tramain was multiple year starter
3) Tramain from the safety position led his team in INTs this year: he had 5 of team’s 11.

Markelle Martin is another guy I like, as he can play either Safety position, a Dawkins type. He can separate guys from the ball, has better ball skills than Henry, and has better instincts for the position. Never had injury concerns.

I just don’t see why people rate Henry above these guys I mentioned.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

As far as SS goes

I have no disgreements with the rankings.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Where is Lester on that list?

That’s a strange list without him.

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by egriffey on Jan 23, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Mystery Solved

Thanks

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by egriffey on Jan 24, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Janzen Jackson

if he had kept his nose clean at Tenn he would be a second or third round pick. He will be a steal for some team late.

"There are no traffic jams along the extra mile." ~ Roger Staubach

by TK19 on Jan 23, 2012 10:10 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

i agree the talent at safety in this draft is better then credit is being giving.

sometimes scouts need to focus less on measurables & focus more about what they get done on the field.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

ive seen enough of measureables vs production

focus in the NBA Draft. I tend towards the school that say: When meadurables and production blended together in colllege, take that guy.

however when you only have measureables on your side and your compared to a guy at your position with less measureables and better production, I’ll take production every time.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

as a Boise resident who goes to the games I'd love to pick up

George Iloka or Doug Martin…or both. The other thing you get with BSU players is disciplined preparation. As a group I’d bet there’s no one in America that crunches more film to prepare for an opponent b/c Petersen demands it from them and teaches that from day 1.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

plus he's got terrific size

6’3+, 233 lbs, with CB speed

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Iloka would be a great FS for us

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

SDSU (Aztecs) alum here

I’ve been very aware of Boise St since 2003. I really like Iloka, Martin, Moore, Potter, McKlellan (the pass rusher they lined up nickle a few times).

I love what you guys do in recruiting and just overall team identity.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

i mean McClellin

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks man. Yeah McClellin is really athletic. he weighed in at 248 and so they are working him

at LB’er and I guess he’s holding his own there. I’m excited about taking a step to the Big East and I’m glad it was SDSU that came with us.

I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010

by pjohn56 on Jan 24, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with the cost-benefit analysis.

In that light, corner (Newman) and two inside linebacker positions (James and Brooking) can be either upgraded or adequately replaced for far less than the current expense.

We got what we paid for at safety, interior o line, d line.
It remains to be seen what Spencer will cost on the open market. Bennett, also. The two of them were absolutely worth their salaries last season.

by CotySaxman on Jan 24, 2012 8:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Well put.

I think that if any team offers Spencer more $$ than a run-stopper deserves, or Bennett more $$ than a blocking TE deserves, we should just say goodbye. Until then, we can be glad we have these (competent and minor) pieces on our team.

by boyman on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Expect more moves if you want.....

the team to improve. It’s the bitter clinging to dead money reality that holds improvement back. It went on for years in the oline, repeated itself in the secondary and LB spots as well in 2011.

Far more meat ax required than tweak.

by Cwon1 on Jan 23, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter.

As long as we have Romo, we ain’t winning a freaking playoff game, let alone the Super Bowl.

Jerry Jones -“Eli is the biggest difference between Giants and Cowboys”

ouch.

by Brandon10 on Jan 23, 2012 9:10 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Brandon here's what JJ said

JJ: “I thought Romo was competing at a level that would’ve given us that opportunity but the rest of us need to play better and get better before we can really jell the way the Giants are.”

JJ also said, QB is not an area the Cowboys need much improvement: the context being replacing the retired Jon Kitna.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 10:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it benefits the whole team in many ways if you go FA C + DeCastro > FA G + DeCastro.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 7:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I think

We should get a FA that can play either G or C. There are a few of them available. Then we can draft a G and have our youth battle it out for the remaining spot, either C or G. One through the draft, one through free agency and one already on the team. Best way to go with our limited resources.

by Oakster41 on Jan 24, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

this

Romo bashing is back. It may be dumb and idiotic and wrong but every1 has an opnions but u kno what they say about em.

by cjs.93 on Jan 23, 2012 10:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

that`s the way pft reports it

biggest difference according to Jerry is Eli at QB.

Jerry should shut up.

by ziggy19 on Jan 24, 2012 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Jerry wasnt saying Eli is better than Romo

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Reports are that Watkins took a sentence out of context just to have a big headline for clicks.

The full story is on the mothership or BD gives us what someone who was there said really happened in another thread.

by Rena on Jan 24, 2012 5:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Dallas has already won a playoff game with Romo

Thanks for providing the “Worst Thought Out Post the Day.”

Now that that’s out of the way…

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

2 if you count the cabo bye in 2007....

Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry

by McLovin9 on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

That gets four facepalms.

Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Jan 24, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Bullshit

Romo’s problem is lack of protection – period. We can win with him if we upgrade the O-line, assuming the D also fixes its problems.

by Keith Moon on Jan 24, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

this perfect pocket you want for Romo isn't going to happen in the NFC East

you better join the crowd with the Eagles & Giants with a domiante pass rush bc no OL can hold defenders off for very long. you’ll break the break trying to sure up an OL in this division & if Dallas doesnt soon join them then dont expect much difference.
Dallas had a franchise QB, decent OL but that pass rush is pathetic besides Ware. pass rush can control a game even with average QBs & defense will always give you a chance to win on gameday.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

err HAS not had***

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Nobody exepcts a perfect pocket

we just don’t expect a jailbreak every other pass play

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

roll on #10 troll

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Not Nearly as Talented as Purported to be...

I can’t speak for other NFL team fanbases (I’m sure others are the same…), but Cowboy fans typically have a penchant for overvaluing the “talent” on the roster.

This team simply hasn’t been as talented as it’s been purported to be for years. No, you don’t need a steak on every plate, but guys like Bradie James, Orlando Scandrick, Marcus Spears, et cetera, are not special players. Add to that the dramatically declining play Terence Newman the past few seasons, or a guy like Igor Olshansky for the few seasons we had him.

Also, as much as I like Jay Ratliff, I think he’s seen his better days behind him and why it puzzles me as to why we extended him. I think he can still be a productive player, but I don’t believe he’s this force to be reckon with.

On the positive side, I do think we are making positive changes to the roster and coaching staff. Guys like Tyron, DeMarco, Sean Lee, Lissemore, Dez and a few others are helping to transform the roster.

My fear is that Jerry will fall into the trap of thinking guys like Arkin, Kowalski and Nagy are better options than DeCastro or Nicks.

Two forks in my eye > Watching an Aubrey Huff at-bat in '11

by Phillyboijr on Jan 23, 2012 9:15 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not sure Dallas fans are any different from other fans

go to any blog at the beginning of the season and you’ll find the same level of valuation. And it’s fine. Better to be hopeful than despairing. I mean it IS supposed to be entertainment, not punishment….

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

i agree here--

the very most fun I ever have as a fan is not when the GM pays to bring in some big name who (of course) plays well, but when some undrafted guy develops into a stud. Yes, we should be realistic, and I’m very very glad that we have a new coach who seems more willing to axe old and overpaid players.

But it may be a different picture with young, cheap players— “reality” includes surprises and good scouting /coaching can produce diamonds in the rough. That’s one of the most fun parts of the game.

by boyman on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I enjoy that part as well

although it probably demands drafting/acquiring multiple players at positions of need hoping that some will pan oout and others can provide much needed depth.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, if fans can't be optimistic, then what's the purpose of even being a fan

If somebody always want to be 100% objective all the time, just call yourself an interested spectator and stop kidding yourself

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Dunno.

One to five facepalms?

Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Jan 23, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

oh so your bring the Wade scale back?

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

No!!!!

The NFL teams that get “it” are all using a combination of the two. And that is what we are doing and what I think you will continue to see.

The Key is to get a pass rush with just rushing 4 players. It doesnt matter what the front is as long as you can get pressure with just 4 guys, so 7 can play back.

The 3-4 is much better at disguising where that 4th guy is coming from and that is SUPER important!!!!

If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?

by CoachGary on Jan 24, 2012 2:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Amen coach

Good to have you back, haven’t seen you around these parts in awhile.

by matt575 on Jan 24, 2012 6:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The 3-4 in Dallas sucks. They don't have 3-4 personnel.

Who cares about disguising ? The Gmen don’t use much disguise. They just line up and bring it hard. This si what Dallas needs to do because the fo isn’t smart enough to draft 3-4 players.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 24, 2012 7:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't call the Giants a great defense either

Let’s lok at their last 5 opponents…Jets offense totally sucks, we were handicapped with a very bad interior OL, Falcons offense sucks too, GB simply had a bad game, too many self-inflicted mistakes and SF, yeah, their offense sucks too

Let’s see how they do against a motivated Brady lead Pats offense…I bet they light up the GMen

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

The FO would be stupid to draft Brockers for their defense

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldnt say we dont have the

Personal we have a decent defense that could be great with a strong secondary. Oh I guess this comes from Dallas being a top 10 pass rush defense right not good enough I think Mensa would rather Texas just succeed from the united states so Dallas can’t play in the NFL anymore. Wow our defense wasn’t horrible this season and with some new players at key positions will be very good next year.

by Sado44 on Jan 24, 2012 6:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

thank you coach

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 10:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Strictly by the numbers . . .

Internal improvement within an NFL roster begins with year zero (rookies) to year one, year one to year two, year two to year three . . . and then, as Coach Landry told Coach Parcells, if they haven’t figured it out after year three, it’s time to cut bait.

Here are the numbers of young players on the Cowboys roster (courtesy of the mothership):

Rookies – 18
Year 1 – 5
Year 2 – 9
Year 3 – 8

Total – 40

Now, if only half of those players pan out, you have 20 young improved players plus the 6 or 7 you hope to address via free agency and/or the draft this year.

Figures don’t lie . . . but then again, liars figure!

From the hometown of Bob Lilly,

by Long Ball on Jan 23, 2012 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

How the hell did Spears make it past 2007?

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He's been solid against the run . . .

And is actually misplaced, as he would be much better as a 4-3 DT . . . you can’t have pass rushers at every position (although it would be nice) LOL!

From the hometown of Bob Lilly,

by Long Ball on Jan 23, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Parcells wanted Spears over Ware the yr they switched to 3-4

LOL!!!!

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

the giants don't seem to have a problem

playing 4 pass rushers a times in every game they play; as Tuck, Osi, Kiwanuka, and JPP all at the same time in their Nascar Package. Joseph and Canty spell them.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 9:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah but all they do is draft pass rushers high

this is hyperbole of course but they do draft far more pass rushers then we do

by kitten mittens on Jan 23, 2012 10:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

and not worry about their secondary or LBs

If the QB is smashed or dead, he cannot throw the ball

by a hay on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

And you can add Marvin Austin next year.

Compare all of those linemen to the Dallas linemen.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 24, 2012 7:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Canty isnt a slouch rushing the passer but he does put some size on that DL

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Long Ball I have said that for years. Spears is a large man.

Rat could be the penetrating dt and Spears could be the run stuffer.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 24, 2012 7:23 AM CST up reply actions  

why cant you have all pass rushers on the DL?

pass rushers can tackle also & this thoery about run stoppers just doesnt make sense. 2 down run stoppers on the DL are becoming dinosours in this era of the NFL.
controlling the middle with huge NT that can push is huge in the 3-4 & all the other positions benifit from it.

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

You can . . .

I was talking more about the failure rate of college pass rushers in the NFL and how you would have to invest a larger portion of your draft on pass rushers while neglecting other positions. The Giants seem to do it, so it is possible.

From the hometown of Bob Lilly,

by Long Ball on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Been kinda busy Blue . . .

Tracking down all the underclassmen decisions and revamping the Big Board . . . I just took a break from fine-tuning the data base to make it easier to access while watching Senior Bowl practices.

From the hometown of Bob Lilly,

by Long Ball on Jan 24, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

One thing I don't think a lot of people understand

The Giants defense went back to basics around 7-7 and started to dominate. Rob Ryans style is to confuse the offense (QB) with different looms and blitzes. Teams that have dominate defenses win. No brainer right?

A team has to be able to get great pressure with 4 rushing. If a team can do that, the team doesn’t need all those smoke and mirrors.

Read the article about JJ and the Senior Bowl. He mentions getting a few new faces in the secondary. He also mentions getting a Center for Romo.

Any draft do overs?

by torchindefenses on Jan 23, 2012 9:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

That's one of the lessons I'm taking away from this year

Elite QBs and OCs have gotten very good at dissecting all the blitzes and beating them with hot routes. Tom Brady’s passer rating is about 10 points higher WHEN BEING BLITZED than when he’s not.

Scheme seems to matter less and less on defense every year. It’s so much about talent and winning the pass-rushing matchups. If your 4 pass rushers are more talented than the opponent’s 5 O-linemen you are a great defense. If they aren’t you suck.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 23, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Just think what RR may be able to do with decent players. I don't over-estiamte the talent on this team.

We have a great core of skilled players. It’s the trenches and the seconadary that need help, big time help. Most other positions need some depth.

We fix the O and at least we make the playoffs. Just improve the D to a top 10-12 and we can compete with anyone.

We need 2-3 quality OLmen, I’m thinking Nicks and DeCastro. Nagy or Killer K at Center, Arkin and Costa as reserves. Get a pass rusher, Irvin, a CB, Minnefield or one of the others in round 2-3 by trading up if necessary. Sign a FA safety and we’re in business. Of course we are still vulnerable to injury but it’s a good start.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 23, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

+1000

If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?

by CoachGary on Jan 24, 2012 2:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Well thats the problem we don't have 4 pass rushers.

And even though they don’t blitz schemes to matter because you don’t know which 4 are coming. or maybe 5. Watch the Texans, Giants, Niners in the playoffs. Yes they rushed four a lot but it wasn’t obvious what 4.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 7:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think that is true

While the scheme were simplified, the Giants also got Tuck back to almost 100% and got Uemieoya back.

The simplification was actually to rush 4 men more, and less zone blitzing. When you have Tuck, Osi, Kiwi and Pierre Paul… it is easier to create pressure with 4

by a hay on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions  

No Kidding

. . . the Giants defensive front, after getting healthy, is a force to behold. They are deep and talented . . . teams focus on JPP, then others break out. Dallas defensive front can’t hold a candle to the Giants group.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 24, 2012 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Its easy to go back to the basics

when your front four can consistently kick the sh*t out of the other team’s O-line…

by rabblerousr on Jan 24, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

internal improvements i'm hoping for

the o-line(to where they only add DeCastro or one free agent like Carl Nicks). Hopefully Nagy, Kowalski, Costa, Arkin, Free all come back healthy and stronger and capable of being quality starters

Scandrick playing on the oustide. Unless they keep Jenkins for cheap this will be huge as they may need to pile up dough for a top-flight corner to help erase Jenkins and Newmans nightmares(for either play or injuries) from the last two years

Bruce Carter being healthy and playing at 3/4 of what Sean Lee’s impact thus far.

they really need it, i would like to see it as i would like to see them re-sign Laurent and then be able to use the rest of the money on D-linemen, Edge-rushing LB’s, and some combination of safety/corner upgrading

The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists

I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 23, 2012 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

jenkins is a good cb, scandrick is a slot cb

We already need to replace 3 corners immediately, let’s not make that 4.

by matt575 on Jan 24, 2012 6:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Carter playing well will cover a HUGE hole in our defense.

This past season the older guys killed us.When the DBs actually had good coverage the opposing QB always had a TE or a RB out of the backfield wide open.More often then not it was Bradie or Brooking getting beat.Carter playing full time is a must.

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Searching for at least 2 more Super Bowl wins and more kool-aid.
Totally excited about new coaches and this teams future.

by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

about half the NFL

Eagles, Vikings, Titans, Browns, Giants, Broncos (although they should switch to 3-4), Rams, Lions off the top of my head

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 23, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Primarily 4-3 teams

AFC North:
-Bengals

AFC West:
-Raiders
-Broncos (I think)

AFC South:
-Tennessee
-Jacksonville
-Indy

AFC East:
-Patriots (only team to use it all, they are a matchup defense depending on the team they play, the alignment changes).

NFC East:
-Philly
-New York

NFC North:
-Detroit
-Chicago
-Minnesotta

NFC South:
-NOLA
-ATL
-TB
-Carolina

NFC West:
-St Louis

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 10:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey look at that

7 of the 12 playoff teams, and both Super Bowl teams. Hmmm

by sportsfanatic21 on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

17 out of 32 teams (about 53%) run the 4-3 and about 58% of the teams in the playoffs are 4-3.

That tells me the percentage of 4-3 teams in the playoffs is not significantly different than the percentage of 4-3 teams in the league. From this, I would say it is less about 4-3 vs. 3-4 and more about the talent level. The only thing that I see that can argue against this is the fact that the top 5 defenses during the regular season were all 3-4 defenses.

by Grimlock83 on Jan 24, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I see them getting a new center

But I really do not see them going after Nicks or a G in the first. I think they will go with a vet center in FA and play Nagy and Arkin at the G’s.

I also think they may go with one FA CB as well. Maybe someone like Carr or Web.
Then a top pass rusher in the first and a CB in the 2nd. That guy would most likely be your #4 CB.

by tattooed cowboy on Jan 23, 2012 9:53 PM CST reply actions  

I really hope they get a FA center
  1. free agent priority in my opinion. Yes, ahead of Laurent Robinson, etc.

I think that’s the one spot they have to get a center. They can’t go with what’s on this roster and you don’t want to get forced into drafting a lesser-talented player in the draft.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 23, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

And a Free Agent Center should be cheaper than a Free Agent Guard...

though just as helpful to this team, if not more so, than a Guard.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 4:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I would take that plan . . .

. . . but could see Dallas landing a guard to replace the veteran Holland. An athletic guy who could pull and lead Murray around the end.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 24, 2012 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

take caution those who want a FA Center

Ppl have been advocating for Meyers from Houston. He wouldn’t fit our system because we don’t run the zone blocking system in our running game.

When signing FA linemen, you have to make sure the guy you bring in fits your system.

The Redskins are more likely to sign that Meyers guy because they use the zone blocking scheme.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 10:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

We do run the Zone

Blocking scheme if I am not mistaken. Garrett wants to run more of it and that is why he got away from Maulers and went to more athletic guys. Guys like Davis and Columbo couldnt pull and Garrett wants to pull the offside Guard and run more “stretch” plays which is done with Zone blocking.

If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?

by CoachGary on Jan 24, 2012 2:46 AM CST up reply actions  

What did Callahan run with the Jets?

Bet that is what we run this fall. Garrett seems smart enough to bring in a guy who can deliver what he wants.

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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Jan 24, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

The Jets Running game

Is similar to the runs we used under Jason:

Power, Lead Draw, the Flip 90 play (fake the FB dive, pitch to the RB), Iso, Dive, Off Tackle.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 10:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

To improve this team ...

we need to improve both lines. A better o-line will make the skill players better. A better d-line, that can pressure the QB, will make our secondary much better. Hard to say, but the Giants are a good example.

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Jan 23, 2012 10:20 PM CST reply actions  

Giants good example on defensive side

and the 49ers on the other side. Dallas has ignored both sides of the ball in terms of the forces in the trenches. Bad Jerry.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 24, 2012 8:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm no Jerry fan

but the OL hasn’t been ignored exactly. Drafted O-lineman have gone bust, to Det, Free, bust, bust, T. Smith. .333 is a great batting average in baseball, but you pay the piper if you’re talking drafting in the first 4 rounds.
Strictly D-line, you’re spot-on, since hitting late on Ratliff and drafting Spears, I think there’s only been Hatcher in the 3rd one year, they’ve been trying to mine value with Brent, Lissemore, etc. I think Bowen was really about to step up for us this year, then he got the offer he couldn’t refuse from the godfather of munchkin-land.

" ... Any one of 500 coaches could have won those Super Bowls." Jones later denied saying such a thing -- sober. So he qualified it with, yet another, infamous quote: It "was just the whiskey talking."

"...it may be the whiskey talkin', but the whiskey says I miss you, everyday..."- Fountains of Wayne

by Cowtoys on Jan 24, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

The o-line is pretty close to having the talent, but not the secondary

Tyron Smith, a healthy Free, signing Nicks or drafting DeCastro and all the project picks from last year should yield a decent starter. We all know the secondary needs a CB, safety, though some pressure from the d-line would help.

Keep in mind that other teams are also improving via the draft. If we draft strictly on need we’ll never catch up. We gotta fill in needs in FA and go BPA in the draft.

"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson

"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF

by ScottB1985 on Jan 23, 2012 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

I can't believe I'm saying this...

But when I look at the 49ers defense, it’s more than just pressure from the d-line. It’s more than just linebackers making plays. It’s more than just a secondary that can cover. They’re hitting out there. They have a plan. They’re all doing their jobs. Do they have a star? I guess Willis. They have some really good players. A lot of them. But they’re not a defense of superstars. They’re just a defense executing a very good game plan. They don’t have any real weaknesses. They’re not too tricky. They just play. They beat their man. Eli was blasted into the stone age Sunday. He really didn’t do much in the 2nd half. The 49ers had a punt returner that gave the Giants 10 points.

Let’s start with some key pieces on defense, gather up a great plan, and not muck it up. A few key players can make some of our JAGs better. Most of all, this defense needs to understand what they’re doing out there, and have the discipline to do it on every play.

We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett

by White Wolf on Jan 23, 2012 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

Me too

But I do think that Justin Smith and Aldon Smith could be considered star players. As much as I hate that team, I love watching them play defense.

by sportsfanatic21 on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

yup

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 10:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I was impressed with the way the 49ers tackled

The do not give up any extra yards. Ball carriers typically go backwards. I think that is the way it is supposed to be. I am not sure though because I have been watching our team pull other players down by their jersey’s or diving at their ankles.

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Jan 23, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahaha,

Dallas’ worst offender, Terence Newman, hopefully has made his last business decision for us.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 4:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Shocked...

What, you don’t like our defensive players slapping guys like Brandon Jacobs on the butt/helmet and helping them up after a play?

Two forks in my eye > Watching an Aubrey Huff at-bat in '11

by Phillyboijr on Jan 23, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I am sure ...

… they would hate to pay a fine for unnecessary roughness. I would love to see one of our players zero in and plant someone.

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Jan 23, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

You don't like the secondary throwing hands up in disgust and confusion?

Blasphemy!

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

I agree especially in the game against New Orleans, I remember saying to my pops that these guys are hitting. I haven’t seen defensive play like that in a while, they were always around the ball and not giving up much YAC. But to me it does start with the line (in the trenches) if your front is playing well it frees up the linebackers to roam, hit running backs in the lane and blitz the QB every now and then. I think our defense could be improved significantly with a true NT to push the pocket, anyone see Wilfork collapse the pocket on Flacco, not saying we should expect someone like that, but someone who could at least push the pocket to limit QB’s from stepping up on us and occupy centers and guards on the running plays. Also we can then move Ratliff back to DE although he has been good playing out of position all this time I think he could be more effective on the end. We also need some DB help though.

by DCB* on Jan 24, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Garrett wanted Fangio as the Boys DC?

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

According to a report on ESPN.

Check the link here.

Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Jan 24, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd put 49er Justin Smith on the star list for sure.

He’s a been an absolute force on their Dline for years. If we had a 3-4 DE like that our front 7 would be looking a whole lot better.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 AM CST up reply actions  

How talented are the Cowboys you ask?

Offensive skill positions- very talented
O-line- not so much (except for Tron and I think Free can do well at RT; also I have faith that one of Arkin/Nagy will develop into a solid lineman, probably Arkin at G)
Defense- not very talented except for Ware, Jenkins, Ratliff, Bruce Lee, and (don’t hate me for this) Spencer. Wouldn’t mind getting rid of anybody else on that D. I like Spencer but I wouldn’t mind if we lost him as long as we could replace him.

by Nets2410 on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 PM CST reply actions  

Nope, hasn't proven anything

but the whole “first round talent fallen to the second because of injury” makes us hope that we’ll see something this next year. We’ll see.

by boyman on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Off topic but....

We can officially stop using probowls as a measure for how good a player is.

Cam Newton has been named as a probowl replacement. The 15th rated passer in the league.

What a joke.

by just4fun on Jan 23, 2012 11:12 PM CST reply actions  

Aiikman sucked as a rookie

Peyton Manning as a rookie had a similar passing stats to Cam Newton

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 23, 2012 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

No the 4 AFC QBs in the 1998 Pro Bowl

John Elway, Warren Moon, Mark Brunell, Drew Bledsoe.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Best Example - Gurode

I think opposing teams voted for Gurode just to keep him on the Cowboys

by Iowacowboy on Jan 24, 2012 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

That would be cold blooded

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 10:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

bruce carter..

Is not sean lee. And we have no idea of knowing what he will be he hardly saw the field. I think its to earlie to say if he will be a beast or not. But thinking he could have a sean lee season is a little much. Only reason I think lee had the season he did is bc the other ilb were garbage. But I hope carter could be a stud and we have 2 ILB like the 49ers have willis and bowman

by cjs.93 on Jan 23, 2012 11:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think Lee

would have had a great season no matter who was playing back there along side him. Lee is a Pro Bowl LB for years to come….barring injury…..

If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?

by CoachGary on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Lee Is Special

he brings the brains and the brawn. In that order, which is fine. I really love that guy; he is best player on the Cowboys not named Ware or Romo.

by Iowacowboy on Jan 24, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Special. I wouldn't go that far.

I think we overestimate how good he is since the Cowboys ILB have been basically non existent since we went to a 3-4.

For some reason the Cowboys have gone with the small smart slow guy in the middle of this defense since they switched.

Zach Thomas, Brookings and now Lee.

Which I just don’t understand.

by Sharksbreath on Jan 24, 2012 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Lee isn't Willis or Bowman.

So I guess we have to hope Carter is one of them.

by Sharksbreath on Jan 24, 2012 8:19 AM CST up reply actions  

You advocate based on.......

size and speed in one post and then turn right around and use Willis and Bowman as your examples. Lee is right in there with them.

(Granted these are LISTED sizes)

Sean Lee: 6’2", 245(Current Date, Not Combine)
Combine numbers: 4.80 40-Yard Dash, Bench Press 24, Vertical 37.5, Broad Jump 120

Patrick Willis: 6’1", 240(Current Date, Not Combine)
Combine Numbers: 4.51 40-Yard Dash, Bench Press 22, Vertical 39.0, Broad Jump 119

NaVorro Bowman: 6’0", 242(Current Date, Not Combine)
Combine Numbers: 4.77 40-Yard Dash, Bench Press 26, Vertical 29.5, Broad Jump 115

Hindsight is always 20/20. You do realize that Bowman was passed over 90 times right? Now Willis just has freak speed for ILB.

by Jace M on Jan 24, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure what numbers you're using for Lee.

As far as I can tell his Combine 40 was 4.71 and his Pro Day 40 was 4.60
Where are you getting 4.80 from?

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 4:19 AM CST up reply actions  

ESPN.com-NFL Draft Tracker, under Combine

Just looked up under others right now……

nfldraftdayinsider.com: 4.76
nfldraftscout.com: 4.71
scout.com: 4.72

I do like your numbers better though. Just not sure whose to believe. Your numbers make my case better though.

by Jace M on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

If Mqrio doesnt re-sign with Houston

He will go to a 4-3 team

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Mario*

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he fits

in nicely here because of Garretts love of the strech play in the running game. We are going to more athletic Offensive linemen and Williams could definately be here if JJ wants to spend the money, because I think Garrett would love to have him.

If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?

by CoachGary on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Oops, I was thinking

about Meyers from Houston, but I would rather have Ryan Kalil from the Panthers instead.

If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?

by CoachGary on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 AM CST up reply actions  

That would be a nice haul!!

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Searching for at least 2 more Super Bowl wins and more kool-aid.
Totally excited about new coaches and this teams future.

by NVCowboy4Life on Jan 24, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Need a center

Next to OT is the most important position on an offensive line and probably one of the most important on an entire team. Probably #3 behind QB and OT…

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by ProBowlFactory on Jan 24, 2012 12:30 AM CST reply actions  

I want us to sign

Ryan Kalil from the Panthers. He is only 25 and he is the best out there in FA….IMHO!

I hope we get him in Free Agency and then DeCastro in the Draft!

Now, if Jerry could only find a way to get Nicks as well, I would be estatic!!!!!!!!!!!!

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First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?

by CoachGary on Jan 24, 2012 3:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you really only fixing the O-line?

Because part of the point of having so many holes is you have to prioritize. And now that we have two studs at guards and a lot of young guys (Arkin, Nagy, Kowalski) to churn in the interior, I’d worry more about the D-line.

Not saying O-line isn’t important; it definitely deserves one draft pick (1st 4 rounds) and one FA acquisition. But to spend essentially all our FA money, AND our 1st round pick, AND another draft pick on the O-line feels like overkill to me.

by boyman on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Kalil signed for 6/49 million August of 2011.

According to Wikipedia.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.

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by Nickthegrip on Jan 24, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

needs

interior O-line
everywhere on D-line
corner
safety
pass rushing OLB

Instead of falling in love with particular players, they need to formulate a plan on which positions are valued more in free agency vs the draft and how to allocate resources. Also, at which positions are rookies more likely to make an impact?

by kumizi on Jan 24, 2012 12:34 AM CST reply actions  

In our glory days we had Stepnowski

we haven’t had a good C since then.I don’t care if Geroude went to the pro bowl or not.He didn’t give us the quality play we need.

Also we have to find a backup QB.Unless we are real lucky it will probably be one of our FAs.

So many holes, so little time and money.

by TCB Orange Dino on Jan 24, 2012 1:51 AM CST reply actions  

Just focus on both lines and secondary, we’re set when it’s skill players.

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by Kevin L on Jan 24, 2012 1:59 AM CST reply actions  

a few good men

If we could find elite piece in free agency. Then 2 or 3 more in the draft, we will be better. Carter should be an upgrade. Murray for the year. May be og from new Orleans. An edge rusher. A CB. It’s already better.

Galveston Dave

by jdg4660 on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

a few good men

If we could find elite piece in free agency. Then 2 or 3 more in the draft, we will be better. Carter should be an upgrade. Murray for the year. May be og from new Orleans. An edge rusher. A CB. It’s already better.

Galveston Dave

by jdg4660 on Jan 24, 2012 3:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Penalties

Who is going to coach the Cowboys to stop making soo many penalties. You know your coach is no good when the team makes so many penalties. Also, I hope all you Cowboys were watching the playoffs this year and noticed as I did the stark contrasts between your play and the play of these players. Very few penalties…I hate a sloppy team!! And you will never win with mental errors. This goes for you too Markus DeWare!!

by noFBexpert7 on Jan 24, 2012 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

Cowboys need 5-6 new starters

at center, guard, DE, OLB, CB and safety. If Spencer is re-signed, then only 5. Newman and Elam have to be replaced as does Coleman, Costa and either guard, Holland or Kosier. Costa, Nagy and Arkin are really backups.

We get those starters as well as some legit backups at tackle, qb, ILB, and some good ST players then we can say this team is talented enough.

As currently constructed, it can’t win a SB no matter how good the skill position players are.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 AM CST reply actions  

i wouldn't count Costa out as a starting Guard if they find a better Center

Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.

by DCNation73 on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

4-3 Defense

Tom Landry invented the 4-3 defense. It is blasphemy for the Cowboys to run anything else, even though he invented it as the Giants defensive coordinator. If David DeCastro isn’t available, take Luke Kuechly. The Cowboys then got a monster linebacker core along with Sean Lee and Bruce Carter.

by Mighty Blue Star on Jan 24, 2012 9:03 AM CST reply actions  

Right on. Let's run the Flex too, despite it being outmoded. Anything less would be blasphemy

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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST

by Seanrude on Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you missed some sarcasm.

Altho with Terry it IS hard to tell

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by Realist Larry on Jan 24, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not outmoded, no one understands it enough to teach it.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why in a copycat NFL nobody copied it.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

In a passing league, the flex is outmoded

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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST

by Seanrude on Jan 24, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly, as more and more teams started passing on what were traditionally 'rushing' downs

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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST

by Seanrude on Jan 24, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Dallas considered switching to 3-4 in the 1980s

The defensive players wanted to do it. Landry was against it. He ws set in his ways and that cost Dallas in the later part of the decade.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

like a 3-4 would have made a difference in those years!

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, the real question is, is it a good beer? Realist Larry, 2011

by Realist Larry on Jan 24, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Two pro bowlers! Enough said...

This is not a talented team and never will be with a clown running the team. This team had an extremely easy schedule this year and was one of the healthiest teams in the league when evaluating games missed by starters. Next year the team will be lucky to win 9 games and will not make the playoffs.

by jerry_jones_killed_our_cowboys on Jan 24, 2012 3:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Pro Bowl

A Quarterback with an 84.5 QB Rating, 21 TDs, and 17 Ints was just named to the Pro Bowl for this year. Nine guys had better QB ratings than him and better TD/INT ratios. Thats what the Pro Bowl means anymore. God that 92 Dallas defense absolutely sucked, they had no one on that defense voted to the Pro Bowl. This team is not as talented as we have been lead to believe though. Just disagreeing with your use of Pro Bowl players as an evaluator.

by Jace M on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Fans wanted to see the rookie QB from Carolina who had the best rookie season statistically. His rookie season was better than Manning-Archie, Peyton, or Eli

Romo put up Pro Bowl #s but ppl weren’t going to vote for him who weren’t Cowboys fans, and kost of his NfL peers think he’s overratwd anyway, as evidenced by the players poll. Romo’s between a rock amd a hard place, underr appreciated by his fans, as well as the rst of the NFL.

If Romo and the Boys make the playoffs nexr year, he’ll make the pro bowl.
Newton making the Pro Bowl is more an example of the recency effect. Fans got excited by the wayNewton played as a rookie. Stop hating on Cam Newton. It’s not an insult to Tony Romo to say Cam Newton had an exceptional rookie season.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Nowhere in my post did I hate on Cam.

I quite liked watching the guy play. Where you got that I was hating on Cam, I have no clue. I simply stated his passing numbers. A little touchy, no?

P.S., I thought Rookie of the Year Award was awarded for best rookie. I suppose it happens though in other ways. There are guys that get it for lifetime achievement awards even if they’ve had a bad year.

by Jace M on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh and where did you think it had anything to do with Romo?

Matthew Stafford——-97.2 QB Rating, 5038 yds, 41 TDs, 16 Ints

That’s who I think earned it. And it has nothing to do with being a fan of his.

by Jace M on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

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