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Cowboys 2012 Draft: How Good Is Dallas At Assembling A Draft Board, Part II: Offense

Jerry Jones and director of pro scouting Tom Ciskowski

About ten days ago, I penned a quick synopsis outlining what NFL scouting departments do each offseason to winnow the massive amount of draftable players down to a workable number. Looking at Dallas' 2011 haul, I surmised that a lot of guys on their "short list" (check out the above link to see a 2011 "little board") had in fact become Cowboys and had acquitted themselves well. Because they had found good players across available rounds (everything from top-ten picks to UDFAs), I concluded that the Cowboys' personnel department had done a good job of evaluating talent and, more importantly, in their "Dallas Day" invitees, had focused on guys, across rounds, that looked to be legit NFL players.

Further, I speculated that this applied not only to the players Dallas actually selected but to all the dudes on their short list--in other words, beyond the guys the Cowboys actually drafted. A look at Dallas' "little board" offered some confirmation that a high percentage of the Cowboys' targets in fact sparkled during their rookie years. In particular, I was impressed by how many mid- and late-rounders, guys like Cecil Shorts and Da'Norris Searcy, got a lot of snaps and made plays in 2011. Again, I noted that this speaks well about the job Tom Ciskowski and his scouts do to identify talent across the board, at least in terms of the ol' eye test.

Given the unreliability of the eye test, however, I wanted to compile some firmer evidence, considering, among other things, PFF grades, position on depth charts, games played, and total snaps. Did these numbers confirm or overrule my gut reaction? In this post, I'll take a look at the offensive studs on Dallas' 2011 short list; later, we'll look at the defensive guys. Then, to cap off the series, I'll look at the infamous "leaked" 2010 draft board, focusing on players drafted more than 40 picks above or below where Dallas slotted them.

Charts and observations after the jump...

Star-divide

Okay, on to the offensive short list. Let's begin by looking at a handy-dandy chart:

Team and Round (pick #) Games Played/ Starts Position on Depth Chart PFF Grades Total Snaps Rookie Year AV
Running Back
Bilal Powell NYJ 4 (126) 2/0 4 -2.8 27 0
DeMarco Murray DAL 3 (71) 13/ 7 1 9.4 390 7
Phillip Tanner DAL UDFA 10/0 3 0.6 50 1
Stevan Ridley NE 3 (73) 15/ 2 2 1.4 192 4
Wide Receiver
Andre Holmes DAL UDFA Practice squad 4 (FL) 0
Cecil Shorts JAX 4 (114) 10/1 3 (FL) -4.9 179 0
Edmund (Clyde) Gates MIA 4 (111) 15/ 0 2 (FL) -2.7 156 0
Jon Baldwin KC 1 (26) 11/3 2 (SE) -6.6 404 2
Jimmy Young CHI UDFA, cut, PIT optioned for 2012 4 (SE)
Offensive Line
Anthony Castonzo IND 1 (22) 12/12 1 (LT) -7 713 4
Danny Watkins PHI 1 (23) 14/ 12 1 (RG) -8.4 807 5
DeMarcus Love MIN 6 (168) 0/ 0 (inactive for all 16) 2 (LT) NP NP 0
Derek Sherrod GB 1 (32) 5/0 2 (RT) -5.1 115 0
Gabe Carimi CHI 1 (29) 2/2 1 (RT) -0.3 100 1
Jake Kirkpatrick IND UDFA ??
Mike Pouncey MIA 1 (15) 16/ 16 1 (OC) -1.7 1025 6
Nate Solder NE 1 (17) 16/ 13 1 (RT) -2.5 880 8
Tyron Smith DAL 1 (9) 16/ 16 1 (RT) 13.7 1074 (missed 8 all season) 9
Will Rackley JAX 3 (76) 14/ 13 2 (LG) -35.7 955 0??

Some context:

  • The PFF grades for first round draft picks ranged from +53.0 (Von Miller) to -49.9 (Blaine Gabbert). Tyron Smith's grade (13.7) was the fourth-highest for a first rounder and the highest for an offensive player taken in round one.
  • AV is Pro Football Reference's cumulative season grade (they also offer career AV). Again, some context: for the first rounders, the highest 2011 AVs were Patrick Peterson's 25 and Cam Newton's 19. Tyron Smith's score of 9 places him sixth in the rookie class, just behind Julio Jones and J. J. Watt (and well above the first-round average of 5.75)

And a few takeaways from this list:

  • An encouraging sign: four of these players received positive season grades from Pro Football Focus. Three of them were Cowboys. Nice!
  • There is little evidence to suggest that Dallas either significantly over- or under-valued these players. Of course, we don't know what the Cowboys 2011 draft board looked like, but there seem to be pretty clear correlations between what the Cowboys saw and what the rest of the league perceived in these guys. No Quincy Carters or Dwayne Goodriches here, thank goodness (and Parcells).
  • Dallas targeted several mid-round running back types--and seem really to have had a good eye for running back talent. All four of their targets played, and two of them started (Ridley for a conference champion). Both Powell and Tanner showed promise even though they were buried on a talented running back depth chart. The Cowboys certainly seem to have chosen the right back; Murray's numbers far exceed those of his other invitees.
  • At receiver, the numbers are less clear. The Cowboys honed in on several mid-to late round receiving types (other than the late-first to early-second round Baldwin). All of the legitimately draftable guys (Holmes and Young both had "UDFA" stamped on them from the get-go) were taken about where we imagined the Cowboys had them, and all three saw fairly significant playing time; for Shorts and Gates, most of this was on special teams.
  • The Cowboys targeted a passel of first-round offensive linemen, so it should not surprise that many of their targets performed well, save for Sherrod, who was behind a stout pair of tackles on the Packers' depth chart, and Carimi, who was injured early in the season. The exceptions, Love and Kirkpatrick, weren't expected to do as well and ended up performing about how one might expect. Again, the numbers suggest that Dallas definitely picked the right one in Tyron Smith, who outperformed even Solder and Pouncey, both of whom had outstanding rookie years.

And that's the chief dilemma when looking at this data: these are rookie years. Certainly, the majority of the players Dallas targeted--even late round types, were picked up by NFL teams, and at about the round one might expect. Where their careers go from here, however, is anybody's guess, as is the burning question: where did Dallas slot these guys, exactly?--which is one of he reasons why monitoring the progress of the leaked 2010 draft board will be so instructive: we can see exactly where the Cowboys had them slotted, and more accurately measure projection vs. production.

In the meantime, we'll extend the above exercise to the defensive side of the ball to revisit the other half of the Cowboys 2011 short list. I'll have that up later in the week.

Thoughts? Observations? How do you you interpret the data? Share your analytical acumen n the comments section below.

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Frist

Oh dang.

If I should die before I wake,
feed Jake.

by GunsUp on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM CST reply actions  

PFF is not a perfect system

But dang, maybe the mob of people crying when we passed on Will Rackley can own up to the fact that he was awful. Even if PFF is off by a substantial amount on Rackley’s grade, he still sucked.

by Key19 on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM CST reply actions  

lol

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Well I'll own up to this.

I wanted a heavier investment in the Oline, having taken OT Tyron early, I also wanted to add a quality interior Olineman. Rackley seemed to be well rated by all the draft guru’s so I was hoping they’d take him when we got on the clock in the third.

When they took Murray instead I admit I was a little disappointed. I wanted investment in the Lines not more skill position players. I don’t think I was wrong to think that way in general but certainly Murray has been great and Rackley, it appears, has been very bad so far.

Like last year though, I still live in hope that the Lines (both O & D) become the priority in FA and the Draft.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 4:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry that’s meant to be a reply to Key19.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 4:51 AM CST up reply actions  

The first person to figure out how to hit on every draft pick,

will retire as the richest man in the world. Until then, you do the best you can with the knowledge you have, and hope for the best. Like the song says “Two outta three ain’t bad”.

If I should die before I wake,
feed Jake.

by GunsUp on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

that has to be the first Meat Loaf reference of all time on BTB.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes but whenever someone mentions Lumpy

Meatloaf and other edibles are implied…

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

mmmm... edibles :)

Super Bowl Cowboys ... JG rides the Ware-Ryan-Romo train ... yea, that's what I said ... you got a problem with that?

by DalaiLuke on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Do Sloppy Joe's count?

I mean, he’s not on the board, but maybe he’ll be a UDFA.

We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett

by White Wolf on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

If Carter and Arkin both become 'hits' then this was a very successful draft

The ‘Boys need the next two to be just as successful so we can get back in this thing. I’m feeling optimistic.

by Specific on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

If
If Carter and Arkin both become ‘hits’

The 2011 Draft would be an A+…

Starters yr 2:

Carter – ILB
Arkin – Guard (LorR)
Tron – LT
Murray – RB1
Nagy – C/G or back-up

Maybe u even get something out of Dwayne Harris this year??? May have been one of our All-Time best drafts…only time will tell.

by StarloverinWNC on Jan 24, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

When I look at Tyron and DeMarco

I can’t help but get excited to see Carter hit the field.

We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett

by White Wolf on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Successful draft

If the cowboys and jerruh can string a couple drafts like this together, we will be talking about our next game being the super bowl very soon

by SoCal Cowboys on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

How much can be said about the draft.

The seasons not over and I’m already tired of the retread discussion.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

This team does a good job evaluating talent

Remember, how ppl were shocked that Anthony Davis received a 3rd Rd grade compared to Navarro Bowman getting a 1st Rd grade on the Cowboys board?

I believe the Cowboys got it right, and the 49ers got lucky that they ended up with both players.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Those are the kinds of drafts you need to become dominant. The Niners benefitted from great draft positions over the last decade, but they used the picks wisely for the most part.

They are a great QB away from rivaling the Montana years, not withstanding the fact that they don’t have Jerry Rice, but Vernon Davis is pretty aewsome.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 24, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

they really need a big infusion of talent on the offense.

Other than Davis, and he is what 28 already? Gore is already slowing down and getting banged up more and more. And they don’t have any WRs.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I really think they have some decent receivers, Crabtree, etc., I believe it's more Smith's just being a serviceable QB that's holdig the WRs back to a degree.

Vernon will be 28, but look at Witten and Davis is a much better athlete. Gore is excellent, but RB is probably the easiest position the replace since the league has shifted to passing for the most part.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 24, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I just don't see it.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Witten is 29

he was VERY young as a rookie.

Davis and Witten are both at their peak and decline will set in withing the next 3-4 years.

"There are no traffic jams along the extra mile." ~ Roger Staubach

by TK19 on Jan 24, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

You know Tony Gonzales is still productive,

I’m just not writing these guys off just yet.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 24, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

productive yes

but he has declined.

I think Witten has 3 more years at his current level. Then he will decline, but still be good.

JWitt seems like a guy who could still be productive at 35 or 36.

"There are no traffic jams along the extra mile." ~ Roger Staubach

by TK19 on Jan 24, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

They're going to take a step back

Even if they get a better QB, they’ll take a step back next year. I’d bet on it. They have some units locked up and really strong, like the front-seven, but how much of their offense depends on Vernon Davis and Frank Gore? As soon as one of them has an injury or slows down, they’re screwed. Also, I think their secondary overachieved this year.

by ary201 on Jan 24, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for putting this together...

As much flack as the Cowboys scouting staff has gotten through the years, it’s encouraging to see that they seem to have gotten their stuff together.

Let’s not forget they had Navarro Bowman ranked very high as well when he came out.

Two forks in my eye > Watching an Aubrey Huff at-bat in '11

by Phillyboijr on Jan 24, 2012 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

said the same thing immediately above

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't see it..

Good stuff.

Two forks in my eye > Watching an Aubrey Huff at-bat in '11

by Phillyboijr on Jan 24, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey rabble could you find out Wisniewski's PFF grade?

I wanted him bad last year for our 2nd round pick.

"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote

by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 24, 2012 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

they gave him a -9.6

coming in as the 53rd ranked guard. This is not uncommon; most rookie grades are “negative”; this shows how excellent Murray and T. Smith were for Dallas this season.

The curious thing is that Wiz did rather well overall, except in game 1 (@ Den) in which he received a -4.6 and game 17 (SD) where he scored a terrible -7.1. The middle of his season, he was “in the green” every game save one.

by rabblerousr on Jan 24, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for that info.

I wondered how he did, I was also a big fan of drafting him. Oakland was very happy with his performance. Seems he had 2 rookie shockers and was solid the rest of the year. Looks like he’ll improve into one the leagues better interior Olineman in the next year or so. I wonder if we’ll end up regretting passing on him (I regretted passing on him the moment it happened!).

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 5:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Ciskowski assembles great draft boards every year

and Garrett will continue following it like he did in 2011.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

i agree with this

I also think Garrett does have an eye for talent, and evaluating players.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 12:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He probably does but

I also think he’s more scout-friendly. That is, it appears that he listens to the input better than Wade did.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 25, 2012 7:20 AM CST up reply actions  

So who screwed up the 2009 draft??

Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys

Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…

Twitter: @silva918

by Antonio S on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

the draft was screwed because Jerry traded away picks for Roy

and Wade wanted Jason Williams

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

i never said otherwise

i stated how it got to being a blown draft

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Well

as a DC he got some talent in the draft and FA last year for the Texans

He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem

by BigBad Joe on Jan 24, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Of the first 5 picks...

3 were LB’s. I think Philips definitely had some say.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 5:05 AM CST up reply actions  

And the word out of the DC camp

was that Phillips had insisted on several of those players, essentially drowning out the scouting department.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 25, 2012 7:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Jerry and Wade

Bad bad bad decisions.

Trading down? Robert Brewster? Jason Williams and Brandon Williams?

Bad bad bad

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 24, 2012 2:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

After Parcells and prior to Garrett becoming HC

Jerry welded more power in the war room than he should have had. With a football guy in place in Garrett calling the shots, we won’t have to worry about that anymore

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think I would put it exactly that way

I think Jerry wants and accepts input from others. That’s not to say he doesn’t get crazy ideas. It’s just that Wade would rather agree with Jerry then give his real opinions on some of these players. Jerry interpreted Wade’s agreement as support for his decision. Jerry has to have a strong willed communicator as his head coach to keep him on the right path.

by staubachfan on Jan 24, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry has conceded personnel decisions to Garrett for the most part

If Garrett wants a guy, Jerry will say ok unless it’s not cap feasible.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He did the same with Tuna, how long did that last?

Make no mistake, Jerry will have the final say.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

It will last as long as Garrett is HC

There will never be a player on the roster that Garrett doesn’t want, don’t kid yourself.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 25, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

"Jerry wants and accepts input from others"

This is the problem—he’s the great salesman who can be sold. He listened too much to Wade instead of the scouts. The fact that Garrett comes from a scouting family suggests that he’ll rely on Ciskowski and Co. to a greater extent.

And I think that’ll be good news. The problem has never been the way they compile info, but what they do with it (and, in the worst cases, ignore it)…

by rabblerousr on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Well said

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes exactly.

My response was to Terry’s comment “Jerry welded more power…” After Parcells and before Garrett. I just didn’t really see it as more or less power. It has more to do with the strength of those he’s talking to. Garrett’s input is much more inline with the scouting departments views and grades. And yes this is a good thing.

by staubachfan on Jan 24, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what I had read somewhere

that Wade actually insisted on a lot of guys the scouts didn’t support. That sort goes along with the mantra of “trust our board”…. Trust your scouting.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

And the nice thing about Garrett

is that he listens to the scouts. Wade tended to want players that he fell in love with, and didn’t listen as much to the scouts.

I don't care about being America's Team. I care about being America's BEST team.

by BWareofDWare on Jan 24, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you think this is really what was happening?

Maybe Wade was not only easy on the guys, “Camp Cupcake” but he was a pushover with JJ too.. I really hope we can attribute this success to Garrett and his backbone. Hopefully this will continue into the future. Plus it has to make the scouts and personnel guys happy that they are actually being listened to now..

by AmericasTeamm on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

how do you know this?

Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry

by McLovin9 on Jan 24, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

you know the nature of the interaction between Jerry and JG on drafting?

Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry

by McLovin9 on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

It's been covered here

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't bother Rohpuri

Terry & McLovin have a special relationship. Its just there way of flirting with each other. LOL

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 24, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

HAHAHA..

I just started laughing out loud in my office..People already think Im crazy, thanks for supplying more ammo to support that theory TP!!

by AmericasTeamm on Jan 24, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

loi loil loil

redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !

by IRONRAVEN on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

my concern is this...

as a young coach in JGs position – if Jerry comes to you and says ‘we like this guy’….how inclined are you to make a stand if you disagree?? if you really make a stink, he’s not drafted and turns into a great player – you look like a fool. If he’s drafted and he busts – well you just went along with it so no big deal – you didn’t stick your neck out.

first – i’m not convinced that JG has a large amount of influence on drafting – and secondly, i seriously doubt he’d be inclined to exercise what influence he has…

i mean seriously – how much influence did Parcells really have??

Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry

by McLovin9 on Jan 24, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

We're just going with what JJ said, that no one will be on this team either as a player or coach that JG does

not want. You may be right that JG might shy away from controversy if JJ really wants someone, but we all want to believe that JJ has had a basic change in philosophy and has recognized that his previous approach has failed the Cowboys miserably in terms of playoff wins over the past 16 years.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

bottom line - i really don't think that much has changed...

and if it has – i dont think we would know it….

its somewhat of a black box

Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry

by McLovin9 on Jan 24, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

It'll never change with Jerry....

He thinks he a football man like Tuna and Jimmy, that’s the reason both of them didn’t stay long. He would’ve named himself HC years ago, but he knew the press and fans would’ve nailed him to the cross.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

"a football man like Tuna"

A genius who understand that Spears > Ware, and Bobby Carpenter is worth a first round pick. We need a great mind like that, because Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith have failed miserably. Bring back the great Tuna, he’ll save us all!

by CotySaxman on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree that the Parcell's time here was far from perfect...

but he’s a proven football coach and will go into the Hall Of Fame. Jimmy made some bad decisions and picks too.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 5:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Dez, the WR that averages 58 yards a game?

You need a better example to prove a point, plus I guess you liked the 2009 draft and the Rw trade.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 25, 2012 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

A person like JJ respects people who stick their neck out more than a yes man

Wade has a yes man’s personality. Jerry is a lot of things, but I don’t believe he hired Wade because he was a yes man, he hired Wade because he wanted to keep the 3-4 defense, something Norv wasn’t a lock to keep, and Jerry believed he needed a defensive minded hc since tje offense was in good hands. Never did Jerry expect that Wade would turn out the wayhe did. Jerry made the incorrect assumption that Wade’s problem in prior hc gigs was a lack of talent on the roster.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

But he didnn't get along near as well with Jimmy and Tuna.

He seemes to loved Wade, Berry and Campo, Chan who knows?

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Not manybppl get along with Parcells, but Jerry wanted him to continue

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry and Jimmy were former college fb teammates

Barry Switzer coached them at Arkansas

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I know the story

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I don;t think the central idea behing the 2009 disaster was a bad one

The Cowboys were too top heavy and needed to shore up depth in the worst way.

They just drafted bad players, in no small part by failing to listen to their scouts. From what I hear, Jason Williams was a Wade pick and Robert Brewster was a Houck pick…

by rabblerousr on Jan 24, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what I said at the time, however

the strategy led them to look at role players, rather than players, and I think they got what they deserved. Stephen Jones talking about getting BPA sounded a little like “We learned our lesson about trying to target too selectively. We’ll let the draft come to us”.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

The 2009 draft had to be a total team effort.

Not even Jerry or Wade could mess things up that bad all by themself.

Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Jan 24, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

True

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS

This is what gives me cause for concern.

by ary201 on Jan 24, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Just heard something very interesting

Jerry spent much of the morning talking with Butch Davis in private at the senior bowl. Maybe just picking his brain on some prospects, maybe talking to him about being on the staff,………….hhhhmmmmmmm interesting.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 24, 2012 1:08 PM CST reply actions  

Could be a front office position in player development and scouting

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders

How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.

by Birddog26 on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

how likely is it that they talked about that?

I think it would be strong possibility.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Seems like he could really help in the scouting department.

The guy found some gems at UNC.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry and Butch are close

Jerry and many in the orginzation trust Butch’s advice. I am not sure if Butch wants the grind of coaching anymore. I think Butch is 60 now so may be looking to settle into a front office position. I think he would be a great addition to the scouting department or in the Player Development department mentoring players on the Cowboys.

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders

How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.

by Birddog26 on Jan 24, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Butch's addition would be great

he’s coached and scouted in college and would have a lot of inside info on these prospects.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

When he was let go here at UNC

I got the impression that he might be done. Then he released this really weird youtube video that looked like he was campaigning for another chance somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhUQMZo5h-I

Maybe just trying to clear his name but I’ve never seen anything like it. Either way, I loved Butch at UNC and I would LOVE for him to be back with the Cowboys in any way shape or form.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Paul

Thanks for posting this link to Butch Davis. I’d never seen it before. I agree it was bizarre. Hard to say what it means in terms of future coaching campaigning or trying to clear his name, but it is odd to do it in a Youtube forum instead of an interview with a respected journalist. I’ve always felt like Davis reached his “peak” in Dallas (along with Mike Zimmer) and it’s been downhill ever since. I don’t know if that’s an accurate assesment, but it’s always been my feeling.

"A successful coach needs a paitient wife, a loyal dog, and a great quarterback. But if you don't have a wife the dog can pull double duty." --Barry Switzer

by Tennessee_Jed on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Quinton Coples might have been topic of discussion as well.

But I think Birddog is right

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If Dallas would just follow their board and see what falls close to them or right to them

we would have drafts like 2011 more times than not

"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo

by Trueblue122 on Jan 24, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

No question the draft board appears to be compiled excellently by Ciskowski, etal.

As long as JJ rubber stamps the picks we should continue to see progress in revamping the roster.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 24, 2012 1:36 PM CST reply actions  

I wonder if Barry Switzer had any impact on RB's selected?

The book on Switzer is that his great strength as far as scouting is finding RB’s. He and JJ are still pretty close. I wonder if he contributed anything?

by jrogersdal on Jan 24, 2012 1:49 PM CST reply actions  

Don't tell me Switzer was behind Sherman Williams?

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 1:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

wouldn't be surprised

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 2:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He actually did.

Apparently they had Switzer on the phone in the war room talking about him.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 24, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Switzer was actually a better coach than most give him credit for

he just wasn’t a good fit for the NFL, especially the team he inherited.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

He was a good college recruiter

which is basically the same as being a good college HC. Thats about the extent of his talents however.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

+4

Have always felt the same

He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem

by BigBad Joe on Jan 24, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

actually Jerry cost us

not getting along with Jimmy and Jerry wanting credit, the only credit Jerry should get was to hire Jimmy…it`s been all downhill since. Thanks Jerry.

by ziggy19 on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

not true

jimmy was leaving regardless.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

you can blame Eric Williams and stupid driving for not winning for in a row.

Eric Williams was a pro bowl player after his injury.

Also remember Eric Williams was only half the player that he was before his injury.

by Jonathan Stern on Jan 24, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, listening to former players

he was a very good Xs and Os guy too. Much more so than Jimmy.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

They won their 3rd SB inspite of Berry, not because of him.

His claim to fame in college was recruiting, not coaching.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Switzer was a consummate head coach

He rarely took credit for success, deferring to players and his assistants and assuming the blame when things didn’t work ( I remember two costly fourth and one failures in 94) that people never let him forget). But above all Switzer knew talent (he was ready to change his offense for Troy Aikman before Aikman broke his ankle against Miami). Switzer knew the rumors about Murray’s injuries were bogus.

by 50yrcowboy on Jan 24, 2012 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Inspiration...

I always find Jason Garrett’s interviews inspiring, I don’t know what it is, Jimmy Johnson had the same sort of thing, but he just inspires you. It’s difficult to find something he isn’t an expert on considering his level of execution as a player, coach and scouting/recruitment background.

by scraig on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Inspiring or very PC and non-descript?

I like JG, dont get me wrong, but sometimes I feel like I’m listening to a politician. This can be very infuriating at times because I want a better explanation or more insight directly from the HC of my beloved team. Ultimately though, I take a step back and tell myself it doesnt matter.. Really when it boils down to it, he can say whateve he wants to the media. They will run with it, make headlines or whatever, 50 of us can listen to it and walk away with 50 different mesages. It doesnt matter.. All I care about is that the team listens and gets inspired.

by AmericasTeamm on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

He's deliberately nondescript with the press most times.

But reports from all over other NFL front offices and our own locker room is that the guy has no trouble whatsoever holding the attention of a room.

by Luke. on Jan 25, 2012 5:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Melvin Ingram on t.v.

Quintin Coples looks like a manbeast.

by BrickTop on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

A different angle on Running Backs: Instead of saying the Cowboys are good at finding them, how about "Running Backs are just plain easy to find in the middle rounds..."

That’s why you don’t spend much drafting them. Anyone can find a decent RB that can play a few years.
Barber and Choice were 4th round picks and good enough for a couple of years.

Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, the real question is, is it a good beer? Realist Larry, 2011

by Realist Larry on Jan 24, 2012 4:50 PM CST reply actions  

Parcells is on record saying

If you draft RB in first rd it has to be a guy like Steven Jackson, how ironic is that!!!

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Got to admit, this is really, really cool. I wish I knew my team's draft board :(

Though, I’m not sure if that’s a good thing. It might handicap the Cowboys in terms of smokescreens and what not.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 24, 2012 5:04 PM CST reply actions  

Jerry Jones

Is going to join mayock and the crew on set if anyone wants to watch…

by BrickTop on Jan 24, 2012 5:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

A fool in a fool’s paradise.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 24, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

In abot 10 minutes

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

The wrap-up show doesn’t come on til 7:30 west coast time.

by BrickTop on Jan 24, 2012 6:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

They will show the full inteview at 730pm PT, I saw a snippit of it right now

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Janoris Jenkins looks very competitve

Doestn’t get down on himself

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:16 PM CST reply actions  

Bently, DB from ULL looks really good

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:17 PM CST reply actions  

Markelle Martin just denied LaDarius Green a pass

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:21 PM CST reply actions  

Under cut the route

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Melvin Ingram

2 snaps. 2 sacks

by BrickTop on Jan 24, 2012 5:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Looks good

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Cordy Glenn looks like he could play either guard or tackle

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

I think the Eagles are going to get Coples. They might trade up

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

I think they'll grab Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College

They need a lot of run stopping help. I will hate it if they get him too, he’s good.

by Dynamicduo on Jan 24, 2012 6:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The Eagles MO

is to take OL and DL in the first rd. Under coach fat a$$ they haven’t gone safety or Lb in the first rd.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Damn Upsjaw I might be wrong about you

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

He looks good too. That DT from ATM looks pretty powerful. I cant see his name.

by BrickTop on Jan 24, 2012 5:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Upshaw and Ingram. Wow

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

DeCastro is still my first pick

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I love NFL N's coverage. They're showing Oline vs Pass rush drills

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

North Carolina DE Quinton Coples has been the most dominant defender on either roster,
MOBILE, Ala. — To get an accurate assessment of a prospect’s pro potential, you must evaluate his performance in pads.

On the second day of Senior Bowl practice, Mike Shanahan and Leslie Frazier put their respective squads in pads and you could see the difference in pace and tempo. From the increased intensity in 9-on-7 drills to aggressive play of linebackers and defensive backs during 1-on-1 sessions, the practices at Ladd-Peebles Stadium were reminiscent of training camp workouts.

With plenty of time to evaluate some of the top prospects in the 2012 draft class in pro-like conditions, here are some of my observations from the day:


" North Carolina DE Quinton Coples has been the most dominant defender on either roster, and his spectacular performance has quelled some of the concerns about his lackadaisical play as a senior. Coples has abused blockers in 1-on-1 drills with his combination of strength, power and athleticism. He has shown the ability to put together a series of power moves in sequence, which makes him tough to block in isolated situations. While he still lacks the explosive burst that is typically displayed by elite rushers, his ability to collapse the pocket could make him a difficult block as a potential left defensive end or defensive tackle (three- or five-technique) in a 4-3.

by Jonathan Stern on Jan 24, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

North Carolina DE Quinton Coples has been the most dominant defender on either roster,

North Carolina DE Quinton Coples
Coples had a somewhat pedestrian 2011 season given his talent and measurables, and plenty of scouts had questions about his motor and effort coming into Senior Bowl week. He needs a strong showing to lock down a spot in the top 10, and Coples got off on the right foot on Day 1. He was clearly the best player on the field during the South team practice. He made everything look easy, getting off the ball smoothly and showing quick hands, and it’s clear the game has slowed down for him. Coples beat Florida State OT Zebrie Sanders — a late-first-round prospect - cleanly on more than one occasion, and no other offensive tackle had a chance either. Coples’ most impressive move was a quick inside swim, and he clearly won five of the size one-on-one matchups he had during practice. He lined up inside and outside, and what we saw on Day 1 was more like the dominant player we saw on his junior film from 2010. If he keeps this up, Coples will cement a top-10 grade.
-
Kevin Weidl

by Jonathan Stern on Jan 24, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Ingram, Upshaw, and Coples Re the top 3 pass rushers

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

Upshaw with a sack

Damn, he looks real nice right now.

by BrickTop on Jan 24, 2012 5:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yes he does

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Mayock

was hyping him up saying he will be a very good OLB. Maybe he’s ours at 14?

by BrickTop on Jan 24, 2012 5:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Can we get both Ingram and Upshaw please

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Ingram is schooling cays

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

Too bad Brockers is a soph, would've lovec to get a look at him like I just got from Upshaw

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

Chris Rainey

Looks like a Sproles clone

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 5:52 PM CST reply actions  

Dont' be surprised

if Kirkpatrick ends up being a FS. Not saying it will happen, just don’t be surprised if it does.

I don't care about being America's Team. I care about being America's BEST team.

by BWareofDWare on Jan 24, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Kirkpatrick reminds me of Malcolm Jenkins from the Saints

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Mayock amd Davis like him alot

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 24, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

you have to do your due diligence and prepare for anything.

Visiting with him doesn’t mean he’ll get drafted. But you should meet with all top prospects to know what your dealing with.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

No it doesn't.

We visited Newton last year.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Well I disagree I think we are in the market for him and u don't think if newton fell to us we would have taken him?

Dumb a$$. U have to be one of the biggest morons I’ve ever seen on this site. Do you ever say anything even half way intelligent?

by Dynamicduo on Jan 24, 2012 7:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

^Irony.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 24, 2012 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok moron

He was the 1st pick if he fell to 9 think of what we could trade for him. I wouldn’t want him on our team but he would get a lot as a trade.

by Dynamicduo on Jan 24, 2012 7:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

If cam was the BPA at 9 we would have grabbed him or at least seriously considered it.

I’m sure we are at least considering Jenkins. We may not take him but we are considering him. Your ignorant if you think otherwise

by Dynamicduo on Jan 24, 2012 7:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

In case anyone missed Jerry's interview on NFL Network

Here’s a link to my fanpost which discusses what was said

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/1/25/2731928/analyzing-jerry-jones-interview-on-nfl-network

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 5:07 AM CST reply actions  

If you trade down from 14 and then trade back up into the first

you might be able to get could get BOTH Kirkpatrick and Jenkins in the 20’s

by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 5:50 AM CST reply actions  

calais campbell

We need to grab campbell from the cardinals. He’s a beast at the 5 tech where we have JAGs and upgrade the pass rush. No ones talking about him he had 8 sacks this year. He also got like a grade of over 20 from PFF. Then we can grab a cornerback like Jenkins

by fearthestar94 on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

Boy, DaMarco and Tyron really jump off that list.

We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett

by White Wolf on Jan 25, 2012 9:29 PM CST reply actions  

Kiper did a 2006 redraft

12 29 60 20 1 108 11 6 52 4 119 2 57 126 252 33 55 24 27 23 19 43 13 66 28 98 207 50 58 42 215

in the redraft the number 12 pick went 1rst etc. just goes to show what a crap shoot the draft is. lot of misses for example the number 3 pick not worth a top 32 pick. Shocking no Cowboys made the top 32 though 2006 was the yr we acquired Miles Austin as undrafted free agent.

by ziggy19 on Jan 26, 2012 12:29 PM CST reply actions  


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