Cowboys Free Agent Primer: Who'll Be Tony Romo's Backup?
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2012 5:00 AM CST
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PrintTwo weeks ago, Jon Kitna informed the Dallas Cowboys that he was going to retire. Kitna had been suffering from lingering back issues and had been inactive since week 11.
In a sign that the Cowboys may not be entirely comfortable with Stephen McGee as their No. 2 quarterback, the Cowboys waited until week 15 to put Kitna on IR. Additionally, they put in a waiver claim for Kyle Orton immediately after the week 11 game. ESPNDallas reported at the time that the Cowboys were willing to pay Orton roughly $2.6 million to be the backup for the final six games.
It's probably a fair assumption that the Cowboys will once again be looking for a veteran quarterback this offseason as the number two guy to back up Tony Romo next year.
The Cowboys could easily end up going after Kyle Orton again. Orton will probably not get a starting job in the league at this point, yet as measured by his 2011 passer rating, he's still within the top 25 QBs in the league. But there are other options available as well, and after the break we'll take a brief look at a number of veteran quarterbacks who are unrestricted free agents.
The table below shows the 2012 UFA quarterbacks, one of whom the Cowboys may be considering for 2012. The list excludes Drew Brees, Alex Smith and Matt Flynn because, quite simply, this is not Madden. The list also excludes Donovan McNabb for too many reasons to list here.
| Name | Team | Age | Career Record | Career Rating | Name | Team | Age | Career Record | Career Rating | |
| Former Starters | Career Backups | |||||||||
| David Garrard | - - |
33 | 39-37 | 85.8 | Shaun Hill | DET | 31 | 13-13 | 84.7 | |
| Jason Campbell | OAK | 30 | 31-39 | 82.8 | Sage Rosenfels | MIA | 33 | 6-6 | 81.2 | |
| Byron Leftwich | PIT | 31 | 24-25 | 79.7 | Chris Redman | ATL | 34 | 4-8 | 78.6 | |
| Kyle Orton | KC | 29 | 35-34 | 79.4 | Kevin O'Connell | NYJ | 26 | 0-0 | 73.6 | |
| Charlie Batch | PIT | 37 | 24-29 | 77.8 | Dennis Dixon | PIT | 26 | 2-1 | 71.4 | |
| Chad Henne | MIA | 26 | 13-18 | 75.7 | A.J. Feeley | STL | 34 | 8-10 | 69.1 | |
| David Carr | NYG | 32 | 23-56 | 74.9 | Luke McCown | JAC | 30 | 2-7 | 68.5 | |
| Vince Young | PHI | 28 | 31-19 | 74.4 | Brady Quinn | DEN | 27 | 3-9 | 66.8 | |
| Rex Grossman | WAS | 31 | 25-22 | 71.4 | Charlie Whitehurst | SEA | 29 | 1-3 | 64.6 | |
| Kyle Boller | OAK | 30 | 20-27 | 69.5 | Drew Stanton | DET | 27 | 2-2 | 63.1 | |
| Derek Anderson | CAR | 28 | 18-25 | 68.8 | Josh Johnson | TB | 25 | 0-5 | 57.7 | |
If the Cowboys decide to go after a veteran quarterback, this is the very shallow pool from which they'll have to make their pick. If you were the GM tasked with finding a backup QB with NFL experience for the next two years, which one of these candidates would you sign?
As you evaluate the list, keep in mind that the Cowboys current 'career backup', 26 year-old Stephen McGee, is 1-0 as a starter with a 82.4 rating in three NFL games played, and that when the Cowboys signed 'former starter' Jon Kitna, he was 36, had a 46-69 record and a 76.6 career passer rating.
In the meantime, Kitna has taken up a part-time teaching position at his Alma Mater high school, where he's also the sole applicant for the vacant football coaching position. Figuring out who'll get that job is a little easier than figuring out who'll get the vacant Cowboys' backup job.
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I always think Vince Young's
performance will match his physical ability.Yeah there were rumors that his Wonderlich test results were poor.
Since we have McGee as backup if we could sign VY for cheap maybe Garrett and Wilson could coach him up to where he could be the starter when Romo left.Or if he looks good we could trade him ala Kolb and get enough draft choices to draft an elite college QB.
by TCB Orange Dino on Jan 25, 2012 5:13 AM CST reply actions
Really like who ? He has the most upside of anyone out there.
Finding a franchise guys is not easy.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
we don't need a franchise qb, we already have one
Orton is a better qb than Young, who is one of the more overrated qbs to play in this league.
In Romo we Trust
we don’t need a franchise qb, we already have one
yes and no
Romo is 32. He is great/ pretty good. He is also 32. I don’t care about getting JAG backup I want some guy who would become a lot better so we have a future QB or someone to trade.
Getting 10-6 is not the goal winning the Superbowl is .
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
There are no franchise qbs in that FA list
and we can win a SB with Romo, even at 35 or 36 if we have a better team around him.
QB play isn’t the problem on this team.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
it wont until Romo goes down or Romo oh no !!! comes back into action
Im with stern lets fine a guy who can carry this team.. I dont care FA or the draft…
by lostar2009 on Jan 25, 2012 9:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Romo has been carrying the team
it’s about time the rest of the team starts carrying it’s own weight
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Romo had a good second half of the season no question there...
but let’s not get carried away. Part of that had to due with the emergence of a running game thanks to Murray. Romo lost 2 games this season all by himself. I agree, that other areas have to improve ie., the defense which is a huge problem right now
You're the one getting carried away as nobody loses games all by themselves
Romo carried this team this year, don’t kid yourself
In Romo we Trust
ok Terry keep thinking that...lol
Hello Detroit?..lol
Murray took the pressure off Romo. If Romo does too much like before Murray he makes costly mistakes which cost us games.
Let's look at the Detriot game
Tony’s 1st 2 interceptions are pick 6’s. There were 11 Cowboys on the field at the time, yet they couldn’t manage to tackle 1 guy. Very bad on Tony’s part, bad on the entire offenses’ part.
Now, for one of those pick 6’s, Robinson admitted that he did not run the right route. That was a bad on Robinson.
Then look at the 3rd int. A Romo was stepping up to make the throw, Phil ‘Rag Doll’ Costa gets pushed into him. This causes Romo to put less force in the throw than what he’d have liked. The ball goes short and is an int. Can you find blame here on Romo, yes, but he isn’t the only at fault.
Also, let’s keep in mind that even after the 3 int’s, Dallas was still ahead, yet the defense couldn’t keep the lead.
Did Romo royal mess up in this game? Absolutely. Did he makes more/bigger mistakes than just about anyone else on the team? I would say so. Was he the only person on the team to make mistakes that had significant effects on the result of the game? Absolutely not.
with all due respect
i can not bring myself to look at the Detroit game. Ever again.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
I can't say that I blam you or that.
I’m still in therapy for it…
What does it mean to "blame" someone?
I’m trying to picture it.
"Wade is no longer the coach." Jason Garrett
"It's football season, and football players usually play football during football season." Tony Romo
by k2spitfire88 on Jan 25, 2012 9:13 PM CST up reply actions
tried to be funny and say blam
and it backfired on me…serves me right…
"Wade is no longer the coach." Jason Garrett
"It's football season, and football players usually play football during football season." Tony Romo
by k2spitfire88 on Jan 25, 2012 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
The best thing that happened to Romo
is they found a gem in Murray. Less pressure on Romo mean less mistakes on his part. Romo has a history that if he has to do too much he makes costly mistakes.
I completely agree with that.
And I think Tony gets asked to do too much because he doesn’t have the supporting cast he needs. Our o-line this year was only slightly more effective then having 5 random 10 year old out there. Too often Romo was having to run around, frantically trying to avoid a sack, while waiting for a receiver to get open.
But that also doesn’t change the fact that in any of Dallas’ losses this season, you can find multiple mistakes, anyone of which could have made the difference between a win and a loss. This does not absolve Tony of his mistakes, but it does support the idea that Romo did not signal handily lose games.
He has admitted, and I believe him, that
he turns the ball over when he tries to do too much. That’s not in the sense of throwing the ball. His completion yards are high. It’s in terms of trying to make plays when it’s better to just give up on the play, or to make up for other player’s mistakes (like making the WR the wrong read and Romo still tries to complete the pass).
So yes, it’s important for him not to force the action, but it’s not because he can’t handle pressure. His career stats actually say he does that well.
Don't believe everything you think.
Hello Detroit
his picks were bad for the team, but he was almost single-handedly the reason they winning that game until that point.
I know you don’t like Romo, and you’re entitled to whatever opinions you harbor, but Romo is not the liability on the this team and talking about him as something to fix is to live in fantasy land. This team has serious issues, he’s not one of them.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 25, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and after the Detroit game
he through 24 touchdowns 4 interceptions in 12 games. That’s not a “good second half”, that’s a great most of the season.
Do you think Patriots fans are still taking Tom Brady to task for his 4 int performance to blow a 21 point lead week 3 against Buffalo(a team, unlike Detroit, who turned out to be pretender and not contender)?
by Alan Smithee on Jan 25, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree with Terry....
Romo is not the problem, the o-line and the defense pissed this season away….
by since '66 on Jan 25, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody loses games by themselves, but Romo carried the eam this year
You really have no shame
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Carried the team
to 8-8 means he picked up a lot of slack. Not that he was singlehandedly responsible for their record. If he was, it would have been much higher.
"Wade is no longer the coach." Jason Garrett
"It's football season, and football players usually play football during football season." Tony Romo
by k2spitfire88 on Jan 25, 2012 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
im for drafting a qb early...
As they saw the early bird always catches the worm.
by lostar2009 on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
In the right draft.
This is not a QB draft
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
their some guys coming out who are already better than McGee now and better than Romo when he was a rookie..
2 years to develop and we can have a franchise qb..
by lostar2009 on Jan 25, 2012 10:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you got a QB of the future I am willing to listen.
I don’t believe in drafting career backup QBS
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
That is why you gotta take a chance on some high potential back up QB
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
There is no potential on that list
then we just stay with McGee until we find some dude who does
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
This is where I disagree with you
There are guys on that list that could come in and keep the ship from sinking if Romo were to miss a few games. In my opinion McGee couldn’t do that. McGee needs to go.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Hahaha
“He can push Romo”
Priceless.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 25, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
im saying he's not good enough to have Romo looking over his shoulder
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Matt Moore
may be receiving his walking papers he has one year left and is due 2.5 million….he would be my choice if we went after a veteran back up
by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 25, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
He would be mine as well
He did well enough in the Carolina system when you could still say they had one and he did make things interesting in Miami even though things were a mess.
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
by Final Frame on Jan 25, 2012 10:41 PM CST up reply actions
He's really not
I thought you were kidding.
There’s no one on that list who is. Unless Garrard’s issue really was injury and he’s fully recovered.
Don't believe everything you think.
Not last year
he was pretty bad last year. He’s decent. And he’s a really good back up I think.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
you can disagree all you want but you're wrong
Orton got beat out by Tebow…case closed
In Romo we Trust
umm..that was the fan and media pressure
that got Orton booted….Tebow is a freaking joke and we all know it
Orton is decent but no where even close to being in Romo's league
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 25, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, come on, really? The Denver front office is so weak that
they’d bench what they think is a superior QB ’cause the fans want it? Get real.
He's pretty much a back-up guy
So, that’s like saying McGee can push Romo. Off a ledge? Maybe, but not for a job. Besides, I don’t think ROmo needs a push anyway. People who play with him call him ultra-competitive and driven to win. He’s pushing himself anyway, and you can bet as a former NFL QB, Garrett is too.
Don't believe everything you think.
yeah, push him to be the greatest ever??
I’d like to know what he needs pushed to because he’s already great
In Romo we Trust
If Romo breaks his leg then he can push Romo
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
yes, in his wheel chair......lol
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
we don’t need a franchise qb, we already have one
Orton is a better qb than Young, who is one of the more overrated qbs to play in this league.
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Yes and no
Romo is pretty good he is also 32.
If it is just a back up then McGee is fine
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
the other back ups aren’t that good. The ones that are want to be starters.
McGee actually has a small chance to get better.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
sure Orton wants to be a starter. He thinks he is. That is why he asked for out of Denver.
Vince Young has the most talent of any guy on that list. and he can be fixed in fact someone will fix him eventually
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
You can't fix stupid
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
by Antonio S on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Vince Young has mental issues
literally.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
I would stay the hell away from him
My vote goes for Garrard
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
by Antonio S on Jan 25, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Also stern dont missubderstand antonios comment
That was about you not young. Though both are apt.
by Proxy406 on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
so why keep him around??? cut him next year..
I like shaun hill and david carr as backups..
by lostar2009 on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Instead of David Carr
How about the guy who was drafted right after him
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
Julius Peppers? Sure id love to have him, just not as my qb.
OOOOOOOO, are you meant Joey Harrington I presume. Yeah, na, I’ll pass. He’s too busy playing piano somewhere right now anyways.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I was talking about Peppers.
both Carr and Harington are examples of why it is difficult to get a QB.
and why you ought to be happy when you got a pretty good one.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm thrilled to have Romo
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
I like Vince Young if we could get him. He has the most potential of any back up on the list.
He has even made the probowl , he has passed for 400 yards in a game. In some ways Vince Young is like Rich Gannon. Rich Gannon was not a particularly effective QB when he was with the Vikings, He kept on getting better and better.
There is a small chance he could be Romo’s next in line
Vince Young is not accurate
One of the best coaches in the world w/ working w/ QBs (Andy Reid) has had him for a year – not a marketable improvement has been noted.
VY is VY – maybe by the time he’s 30 he’ll be mature enough to listen and learn but right now, he’s too sensative to take correction.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 25, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
Gannon and Jim Harbaugh for a time were near useless.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
We're not looking for potential
as if one day he will take over for Romo. We’re looking for a veteran QB. I’d take Kyle Orton for cheap.
by BrickTop on Jan 25, 2012 9:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Kyle Orton won’t be cheap and he doesn’t want to be a back up.
If we aren’t going for an investment then I don’t care about the backup QB.
I want someone who can become a lot better
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
Are you representing Orton?
If you are looking for potential in a backup QB then we should just draft one. JJ already hinted he is not doing that.
by BrickTop on Jan 25, 2012 9:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The QBs this year aren’t that good.
It is hard to find a QB in the draft look at all the teams that have been looking for a decade or more.
Are you representing Orton?
If you are looking for potential in a backup QB then we should just draft one. JJ already hinted he is not doing that.
then we don’t need any backup but McGee
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
I think you can fix up Vince Young and then trade him for a Kevin Kolb type of deal.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
I don't see that happening.
Vince Young will turn 29 in May. By the time you turn him around, he’ll be 31-32 at best. I just don’t see a lot of trade value in a 32 yr QB unless their last name is Brady or Manning.
then you better spend a high draft pick
because there is no one on that list that is going to get a lot better. If there was, then the the team they are on wouldn’t let them go.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
high draft pick like David Carr? Joey Harington you never know.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
I don’t want to spend a high pick on a QB
I want to win a superbowl the way the 2000 Ravens did or the 1985 Bears did.
Build up the defense. I don’t want to go QB hunting in the draft and this year the QBs aren’t that good. Maybe in a year where there are a lot of QBs you go for that. Not this year.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
I dont think we should either
but you’re looking for a lottery ticket and that guy doesn’t exist in free agency this year. You have a very high opinion of Vince Young, and thats fine. I just dont see it. I mean, the guy has physical tools but he’s kind of a basket case. I don’t wont him anywhere near this team.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
like Eli?
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
I never said Eli sucked
just that he wasn’t as good as Romo
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Terry will - in 3....2....1....0......
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
No, but Eli is on a better team than Romo.
Look at the #s, Romo had a better year and is a better QB IMO.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Jan 25, 2012 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
you think Jim Kelly was better than Aikman?
because the numbers would suggest that he was
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
You can't compare Aikman/Kelly to Romo/Manning
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Because
Aikman always outplayed Kelly when it mattered the most (Superbowl) even though Kelly always had the better numbers.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Dallas was a much better team than the Bills.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d take Aikman over Kelly anyday, but I’m a homer. A Bills homer would take Kelly and have an argument, not a very good one.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Romo is a number Diva...
better stats doesn’t equal being a better QB or more wins. People get so caught up with that garbage.
Ha ha! Delusion Alert!
One of the sillier things people say. Where did he get those numbers, Boyz? WalMart? Romo has to earn those stats just like everyone else – in NFL games, against NFL defenses. The same teams Eli plays. So of course they indicate how he plays.
Eli would LOVE to have those numbers in addition to what his teams have accomplished. He doesn’t because he isn’t quite as good.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 25, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Again...OVERRATED!!
What does those numbers get him? Really-that’s right…. the 3rd alternate to play that joke they call the Pro Bowl…Brees and Rodgers two bigger stats guys are sitting home right now. I’m sorry, I didn’t know that having high stats get’s you a trip to the SB or make you an elite QB.
Eli could give a rats a** if he had better numbers….what a joke! The point is he is going to his 2nd SB and Romo has one playoff win and that has alot to do with Eli more so than the defense. Eli has passed Romo whether people want to admitt it or not. I’ll take a QB that has less stats and makes better decisions over a guy who is careless any day of the week. Its already been proven you can win with an average QB in this league.
Oh I wanna join in.
How does Eli make better decisions? Romo had less turnovers.
This is a joke, TEAMS win and lose.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
QB's can lose games..c'mon..
Romo- 4184 yds 31 TD to 10 Int
Eli- 4933 yds 29TD to 16 INTs
Somehow Im thinking no one cares about the 6 extra INTs right now…just saying
doesn't really matter does it?
Eli is on the verge of getting his 2nd SB win and Romo is still looking for his 2nd playoff win. Doesn’t really matter who is the better QB now does it.
Take a poll of fans, media and coaches and see who they think is better….
Well,
it matters in a “Who is the better QB?” discussion.
If you're too dense to realize that Eli is on that verge
because the Giants have a much better defense than the Cowboys, their is really no hope for your delusional mind.
And to answer your question, the uneducated fan and media type would pick Eli, the educated coach would take Romo
In Romo we Trust
now thats some delusional thinking right there..lol
homerism at its best!!
Romo will never win a SB Terry get over it..
No no cmon now.
You said :
I’ll take a QB that has less stats and makes better decisions
So I pointed out Romo has less turnovers, so how exactly does Eli make better decisions and that equated to them now playing in the Superbowl?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Eli has been aces the second half of the season
and the playoffs. Clearly outplayed Romo down the stretch. Not saying he didnt make mistakes, but Eli has clearly made it to the next level it appears.
He had a record of 3-5 in the second half of the season or was that the defense fault there?
He didn’t outplay Romo in wins or stats in the second half of the season. The Giants were one loss or one cowboy win away from collapsing in the second half of the season for the 3rd straight year. And most likely going to clean house.
It all came down to Week 17, Eli had the better coached team(defense line, offense line, STs, secondary, wrs,) Romo worked all the jedi force he could to make it 21-14 but he alone could not win that game.
Eli and Romo are equals now in my book. But lets see how Eli does without big bro coaching him next year too.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
The giants o-line ranked 7th for the regualr season.
That’s average? By comparison, Dallas’ ranked 19th. Also, if you the worse your running games, the more you typically. As evident by the fact that Eli passed the ball more than Romo.
Did Eli win all of those games by himself?
I mean, did he play QB, RB, o-line, WR, TE, FB, d-line, LB, DB, kick, etc?
Team stats, not indivudal stats
Romo can’t help he has a crapy defense, not his fault
In Romo we Trust
Seriously?
We seem to agree on this topic, but surely you don’t really believe Peyton made Eli better this year. That’s silly.
Peyton totally was one of the reasons for Elis improvement this year. Without a doubt
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Just curious
Do you have a link to any report of this? I think it’s really interesting, but I had not heard of this before.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 26, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
Birddog confirmed it.
When big brother has all the time to watch and evaluate your tape
And basically act as your QB coach you will get pretty good
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
by Birddog26 on Jan 22, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
One of the worst kept secrets in the NFL
But to Peyton’s credit, he is one hell of a coach. I have gone out for 2 camps to learn training routines and drills. The guy is amaizing.
Eli did not out play Romo down the stretch, that simply is false
Giants outplayed the Cowboys, but Romo was just as good as Eli if not better.
In Romo we Trust
And Romo has an even better 4th Quarter
QB rating.
You’re spinning in circles and starting to get dizzy. Rom can only control one part of the game – QBing. If the rest of the team struggles, he can’t make them better by himself. His stats show he’s doing his part. Every other Dallas star QB has said the same thing, so I’m going with that over an argument completely filled with holes and based on no evidence.
Don't believe everything you think.
haha and now he won't respond
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
It's a ridiculous argument and yet
the fact that people hold onto these ideas in the face of all the evidence against it tells you a lot about how many people think. This is how Flat Earth people keep their organization going….
Don't believe everything you think.
Oh how we forget....
That Romo lost two games by himself, or was the main cause and we were all here ripping him…
Stats…Stats…you guys are so fixated on stats.
Here’s your stats…Romo 1 playoff win, Eli several playoff wins and on the verge of 2 SB wins. And dont give me that crap that Eli has nothing to do with that because its BS.
Take off the homer glasses for once people. Romo is not good enough to overcome his mistakes or the mistakes of this football team whether its his fault or not.
That post didnt go through
Its ok to be a homer Dunk I get it. but talk to me when Romo actually wins something.
And the stars revolve around the Earth too!
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
This was entertaining to read.
I applaud you both, Terry and bigham, for trying to present your arguments.
I’m a neuropsychologist. I learned a long time ago that you can’t reason with psychosis. You just deal with it. Boyzfan believes what he believes, and no matter anybody’s opinion, he won’t be disuaded. That, I don’t understand. The frustration of the team not winning a Super Bowl, well, I understand that.
Anyway, good on you guys, Terry and bigham, for trying to introduce logic, but I think this horse is long dead, and it might be time to quit beating it.
Interesting perspective
Somehow, it makes me feel better that maybe he can’t help it, he’s just not able to process things well….
Don't believe everything you think.
Were also talking different situations anyway
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
well i think its a perfect analogy.....
why can’t we compare the 2??
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Because
Romo doesn’t have the same supporting cast Manning does. If the playing field was leveled Romo beats manning.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Giants secondary stinks...
Front 4 is real good and they have an average OL….not sure I’m buying that. Eli has been just as good as there pass rush with 2 to 3 good WRs and basically no TE…
"Front 4 is real good".
There is the difference.
Also, their receivers and ours are about equal.
do they?
I don’t know what numbers you’re looking at…Kelly came into the NFL before Aikman, had some great years in the late 80’s while Aikman was in college and on the rebuilding Dallas teams.
But from 92-95(aka “the championship window”), Aikman had the better QB rating than Kelly every year, often by a wide margin.
So, I don’t think the numbers show Kelly was better when they were contemporaries.
by Alan Smithee on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
sure
and those numbers got him where??..lol
Eli is going to his 2nd SB and Romo has one playoff win…
You can make a case in 2007 that the Giants defense carried them to the SB, but not this year. Eli has been lights out the second half of the season and has out played Romo. His 4th quarters numbers prove it. Sucks Terry, but Eli is the better QB right now and anyone outside this blog would agree…
Looking at it like that, you must think Tebow was a better QB than Romo.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Jan 25, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No way but Orton is...lol
but you can’t cover up the fact that Eli has been pretty darn good…better than Romo.
I've given Eli his dues this year, but I'd take Romo over Eli
every time. But I am a homer.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I call it like I see it
and right now Eli is the better QB IMO. I didnt think before this season, but now I do.
I know Romo always has great numbers, but look at the top 2 QB with all these numbers who are sitting home in part because there defenses stunk…
So you get that Brees and Rodgers are sitting at home
because their teams let them down, but you don’t get that Romo has better stats because he’s a better QB on a poorer team? I think you’re kidding yourself now.
I like Eli and I defended him years ago when Giants’ fans were dissing him, but facts are facts – Romo has consistently outperformed Eli for their entire careers. I give Eli full credit for slowly improving his game, but he’s surrounded by a better cast. Imagine Romo having that much time to throw. Imagine the Dallas defense chasing QBs around like NY has done that past 6 weeks. It’s not even debatable.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 25, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Brees and Rodgers are sitting home
because in part of their defenses letting them down. I dont even like Eli, but they are where they are because of him more than the defense. He ouplayed Romo down the stretch hands down. I don’t see, considering their stats are similiar and Eli is going to his 2nd SB that Eli is not above Romo. Do a poll outside this blog and its probably not even close.
Listen, Im not saying Romo isn’t good because I do. Alot of things contributed to this team going 8-8 this year. Part of that was the defense, Romo and bad coaching. Do I think Romo will get us to the SB, probably not. He just has the tendency to make bad decisions at the wrong time and this team will probably never be good enough to overcome it.
you couldn't be more wrong in everything you just said
If Romo had Eli’s defense, he’d be playing in a SB right now and Eli would be sitting at home.
This BS of Eli outplaying Romo is simply not true at all. Only in your delusional hating mind
In Romo we Trust
Romo in the early part of his career
did make more mistakes than his team could recover from. Not all the time, but sometimes. Since 2009, he has drastically minimized mistakes, but that poll you want to take wouldn’t give him credit. Polls reflect opinions, not facts.
You keep pointing out team accomplishments and trying to tie that to individual performance. That’s like trying to measure happiness by how much a guy makes. There may be a relationship, but it’s not even close to being right metric.
Eli is playing well. Unlike 2007, he’s doing his share and them soome to help them win games. But that demonstrates nothing about Romo, or Brees or Rodgers. If Alex Smith is one dumb PR away from the SB, Romo is indisputably more than good enough to help his team win the SB.
Don't believe everything you think.
Romo is not good enough to overcome his mistakes
Im not saying he isn’t a good QB because I think he is, but he is prone to make the big mistakes when he is givien too much responsibilty.
If Eli wins the SB with a good performance you people still going to say that Romo is a better QB?
Eli is already better than his brother at this point in there careers. If he wins the SB many are going to put him in the category with Brees, P. Manning, Brady and Rodgers..Not saying I agree, but it has to be considered. I assure you Romo will not be included that group.
Peyton is and will always be better than Eli
I am done arguing with you after that silly remark.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
actaully it was the media and coaches who pointed that out
I didnt waste the time to compare the stats, but I assume they are going by playoff and SB appearences at this point in their careers. Its a no braniner that P. Manning is better than Eli.
There is a difference between being more successful and being better
Eli is more successful than his brother, but he isn’t better.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
I'll give you that Eli has the advantage on Tony.
He may not be the better QB in pure ablitlity or playing skills or whatever, but he is taking his team to Indy for a shot at a bling.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
cant disagree there
Eli 5 of the last 6 including the playoffs and going to the show. He was a big part of them going to the SB. That is all I was trying to point out. You can have your stats.
I just want a QB that can find a way to win games. Whatever it is Eli is doing that right now and that’s all people will care about. Post Romo’s stats on a dart board because they dont mean a whole lot at this point.
But I still think Romo can get it done.
Put the right team on the field with him, and he has the ability to go all the way, IMO.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
yup
Romo needs a very good team around him on both sides. Ask him to do to much and its Tony ut oh unlike Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers and maybe Eli now who can overcome those weakness.
Are you trying to be a pain in the ass,
or is does it come naturally?
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
not true at all
It’s a myth that those qbs can overcome team weaknesses, they can only win a SB with great play around them as well.
Romo is no different than those qbs you mentioned. All qbs need to play for great teams to win championships
In Romo we Trust
I'm just curious.
Is Trent Dilfer a better quarterback than Dan Marino?
Is Brad Johnson better than Archie Manning?
Is Mark Rypien better than Dan Fouts or Warren Moon?
If the criteria is Super Bowl wins, then the answer is yes, but I think we’re begging the question.
Right.
This is where someone would come along and show all the stats that clearly prove Marino > Dilfer and so on.
Boyzfan can’t do that without being inconsistent.
Yeah, I can agree with this
I dont even like Eli, but they are where they are because of him more than the defense.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 26, 2012 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
And let's not forget Eli's stellar road playoff record as well
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
by silverblue5 on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
I really think Victor Cruz is the MVP of the Giants
the first two games of the season before Cruz came in both the Giants and Eli looked pretty average.
And, as a NY resident who is forced to watch the jersey based teams, I think things would look a lot different right now if Cruz doesn’t make that 99 TD catch against the Jets right before the end of the half. That game Eli was looking terrible(and still didn’t finish with great numbers), and the Jets were dominating the Giants in every regard. Cruz completely manufactured that TD himself, and it turned everything around.
And take Cruz out of the 49ers game and Eli is 22/41 for 174 yards and a 4.2 yards per attempt average. That’s really not very good. I understand that receiver and Qb play are of course inter-related but watching the games Cruz seems to create plays that don’t appear there otherwise.
by Alan Smithee on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
cruz is a one hit wonder.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
He had a lot of miracle catches.
Its just a hunch.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
He did pull Eli's ass out of the fire number of times,
but I think he’s that good. I’d trade him heads up for Dez.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I wouldn't.
It’s closer than people would think, though.
Who knows, its just a hunch.
Like how I convinced everyone to go see District 9 , I just knew it would be good.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
That movie was pretty damn good
I think Cruz is the real deal. He was under the radar like Miles Austin was, and just exploded when given a chance
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Miles is someone I'd love to see get back playing to his top form
And yes, Cruz has really had a Miles-like breakout year.
#demarcusvstheworld
Cowboys wishlist: RG3
by accidental innuendo on Jan 26, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
Wow mclovin is lovin him some eli
Hey man I always wondered but did Eli impregnate you or something cause you just can’t seem to get off his Co.k….
by Sado44 on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wow mclovin is lovin him some eli
Hey man I always wondered but did Eli impregnate you or something cause you just can’t seem to get off his Co.k….
by Sado44 on Jan 25, 2012 4:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll take a really good defense with a good QB
I dont think you need an elite QB to get to a SB….unless were calling Eli elite now?
Case in point: Trent Dilfer
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Better to have Javadon Clowney than Andrew Luck
Get me Javadon Clowney I will win the Superbowl with Steve McGee
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
You are crazy
But Jadaveon Clowney is a future #1 overall pick. He’s awesome.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
Interesting list
Honestly, I could see Chad Henne being the guy. He played in a similar but more conservative offense with the Dolphins. He can provide competition to McGee for the number 2 with the loser being the number 3 guy. Henne is still young, and needs time to develop. Specifically he needs to be in an offense which is QB friendly. He needs to go to a team where he can just spend time learning, from a Pro Bowl Caliber QB, on how to play the position. Romo could be a perfect teacher for him. Henne’s a guy who can be a nice back up QB for this team.
I’d stay away from Vince Young because he will have aspirations of being a starter, and most likely he’ll want to remain in Philly for the time being.
I’d definitely stay away from Shaun Hill. I like him as a person and as a competitor, however after watching him play with the 49ers, and seeing him live at their practice facility, he’s not someone I want. He’s got short arms, and small hands. When he gets in the game teams will put 9 guys in the box and dare him to go deep, and most times he won’t be able to. The thing I noticed about him, it requires a lot of strain on his arm just to throw a simple 10 yard out route, as he’ll grunt like a tennis player after making throws which go beyond 5 yards. It would be a disaster with him manning the ship should Romo suffer an injury.
Another guy to avoid is Jason Campbell. He’s damaged goods. He’s been in multiple offenses, much like Alex Smith, however, unlike Smith, I don’t think he’ll ever have the confidence to trust himself to make a throw when things break down. If his first two reads are gone, he takes off. He’s also not that accurate unless it’s a deep ball. He struggles to keep the offense on schedule.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I don't disagree on the technical aspects of Shaun Hill's game.
However, he does win games. Living in SF, I watched Alex Smith have no talent on offense, and come out of the game with an injury, and Shaun Hill repeatedly helped the team win games. The coaches didn’t like him because of the mechanics and the idea that he “couldn’t be a franchise QB,” but man oh man, he just won when he was in. (Or, at least, he had the team winning far more than when the other QB was in). He played well in Detroit also. As a backup, I like him. If we need a guy to come in and finish a game or play 3-4 weeks if Romo were injured, I think he can get it done.
I don't think Cambell would be a bad choice.
If he’s ready to focus on being the backup. I don’t see the lack of confidence mentioned by Rohpuri, in fact, he’s carried himself very well given the multiple bad situations he was in.
Jason Campbell is painful to watch play QB.
and he’s also got a shoulder injury he’s dealing with.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 1:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I lived in SF during Shaun Hill's 49er tenure
I liked him a lot, but when I got to sit in live at one of their TCs in August 2009, I saw the 49ers were making a mistake in naming him te starter, the only reason being he got Singletary the gig for winning a few games late. The reason the 49ers pulled the plug on Hill was the Texans game in 2009, the Texans came out an tail whipped them in the firs half crowding the LOS taking away Gore and Vernon Davis, and forcing him to throw down field. Hill was overwhelmed and was benched at halftime.
Yes I agree Hill is gamer, but I want someone better than Shaun Hill, and younger. That’s why I really like Chad Henne.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Henne may be better, yeah.
I thought they pulled the plug on Hill too quickly. I remember that Texans game, but I don’t recall the specifics as well, so maybe it was like you’re saying, that Hill just couldn’t make the throws when he was schemed against well, but I thought they pulled the plug too soon. He had a bad half. Maybe he could have recovered. Hill did seem to be able to get the ball downfield to Megatron. Now, granted, that’s Megatron and he can make anybody look good, but there is something about Hill where I think in a backup role he can be serviceable. Also, we know that he’ll prepare well as a backup. I wonder if Henne would be as good at being ready to step in at a moment’s notice. Not saying he wouldn’t, just that i don’t know.
McNabb!
somewhere where they have a young starter like Cincy
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 6:26 AM CST up reply actions
Donovan McNailedTheTurfWithAnotherPass has not been successful in his job search
He couldn’t find a job as a taxi driver because he kept getting lost on third and long.
He couldn’t make it in baseball because he kept grounding out at third.
He couldn’t make it as a pilot because air traffic control kept him grounded.
He couldn’t make it as a boxer because he kept aiming for the other guy’s feet.
He couldn’t get into broadcasting because he didn’t have a tie.
He couldn’t make it as a plumber because he chokes every time he comes close to a bowl.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2012 6:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Jimmy, I see you on here quite a bit
You know you can just become a Cowboy fan if you want, we have a big tent. Come on in, and bring some Cheesesteaks
he already is a cowboy fan
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
We just keep trying to get him to embrace it.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
depends on how Callahan shores up the OL, but
i would say if things do not improve that much probably a mobile QB would be a wise solution. or a QB who can throw while on the run, but definitely better than how Alex Smith did that in the Conference Finals
Jason Campbell
Decent numbers for bad teams.
by Mighty Blue Star on Jan 25, 2012 6:24 AM CST reply actions
You could get him for cheap. But I think he ought to go to a team with a great QB coach.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 6:27 AM CST up reply actions
No thank you.
I feel bad for his career path, but no. He flinches at this point, much like David Carr.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
Honestly, I could see Chad Henne being the guy. He played in a similar but more conservative offense with the Dolphins. He can provide competition to McGee for the number 2 with the loser being the number 3 guy. Henne is still young, and needs time to develop. Specifically he needs to be in an offense which is QB friendly. He needs to go to a team where he can just spend time learning, from a Pro Bowl Caliber QB, on how to play the position. Romo could be a perfect teacher for him. Henne’s a guy who can be a nice back up QB for this team
At one time he was really well thought of.
At one time, they were all well thought of
or they wouldn’t have been drafted.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
There are three or four guys who you could keep as a future QB
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
I've always thought Campbell was better than his opportunities
He throws a beautiful deep ball. The Raiders were better with Campbell than with Palmer. Whether he can run this offense would be my question. Of course, they were without McFadden during Palmer’s time.
I was also thinking of Brandon Weeden in the 4th round. He ran a pro style offense in OSU. I think he’d be better than McGee right away. He’s a bit old for a rook, but the question is whether there will be better value in the 4th round…if Weeden is there.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
I see Weeden going to the Eagles
so that that their 50 year old guard has someone to talk to…
Don't believe everything you think.
The Cowboys interviewed Brandon Weedon on Sunday.
First day in Mobile, Alabama, and they talk to a QB.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Probably to see if his son was interested in playing
for the Cowboys someday.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
You have to try to get Orton if you can if not I like Henne.
Henne didn’t have most talent around him.
by Dynamicduo on Jan 25, 2012 6:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I like Garrard. He has good pocket awareness.
If not him, then either Orton or Young. But I still think McGee will do a good job.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Orton, Garrard, or Campbell
Time to cut McGee loose. Get one of these 3 guys and bring in a rookie as 3rd string that you can develope.
Orton, Garrard, or Campbell are all guys who can hold down the fort if Romo were to miss a few games.
When considering these guys, don’t forget who they will be throwing to for the Cowboys. Too often we get caught up in how they did on there current team. The guys I listed weren’t exactly surrounded with a lot of talent.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Rethinking Orton
It would be great if we could get him but I’m thinking he probably wants to go somewhere that he has a chance to start. Like Miami, Washington, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Arizona,
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions
With the QBs avail in the draft
Orton probably had little chance of going anywhere and starting.
He’s a career backup…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 25, 2012 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
Romo is 32. I like him. I also don’t know how much time he has.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
he'll be 32 before the draft
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
yeah - like Aikman, Bledsoe....
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Peyton Manning is entering his peak years....
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
well that he means he REALLY must be entering his prime
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
If he didn't have his neck issues
he could still play at a high level for probably 3 more years
In Romo we Trust
right 3 years ago they talked of Manning playing until he was 40.
You never know
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
Manning should call it quits
if his neck doesn’t heal fully that is
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
you never know.
So lets go for the " lottery ticket " career turn around QB otherwise lets just stay with McGee
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
I am not busting on ROMO not at all .
I was the one defending him after the Detroit game.
I also know that he is 32. Danny White skills began to deteriorate he turned 32.
He had a nice comeback at 35 for half a season and then he went down from there again.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
you never know
besides backup QBs ought to not just be a guy to take over in an emergency they should always be an investment.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
I'm fine with that thought
just not Vince Young.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
VY would not be a good fit for this team...
we have too many VY’s already and its not worth the hassle for a young coach like JG
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
i agree with this
we have too many VY’s
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
VY is not a RKG
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
that's an assumption....
he’s getting older and he’s getting injured with greater frequency….its just a fact….unless the OL improves – he may only have a couple years left
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
well thats another assumption Terry...
the secondary has been a mess for well over 5 years….it hasn’t even come close to being fixed
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Luck and RG3
are probably the only qb’s that are going to start as rookies. There will be plenty a handful of starting jobs available for Orton to look at.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
As far as starting Week 1 probably
I bet there will be other rookies that start just because the team’s incumbent is downright awful.
Weeden might, depends where he goes.
I read he looked great in practice yesterday.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Looking for a guy to hold it down?
I want a lottery ticket. So dude you can turn around.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
some dude whose career you can turn around.
sorry
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
There is no one on that list that is going to be a lottery ticket.
This list is a scrap pile. All you’re going to get is a guy to hold it down.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
One could have said that about Randall Cunningham, Rich Gannon or Jim Harbaugh.
They were all at one time considered to be finished.
Vince Young is a lottery ticket.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
He has had 400 yard passing days 8 game win streaks and been to two probowls.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
Total passing yard numbers don’t matter. QB wins is a phony stat. The pro bowl is a joke.
by BigDumbFace on Jan 25, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Passing yards and wins don't matter?
What’s left that does?
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
You left key words out.
It isn’t about throwing for 400 yards in a game. It’s about doing it on 30 attempts, ya know? Obviously, wins matter.. but to say Vince Young won 8 games in a row isn’t true. The Titans did it.
Why do you think so highly of Vince Young?
He is not a lottery ticket. Not even close. Jim Harbaugh was never a lottery ticket, he had a couple of decent years with the colts but he was pretty much a career backup. After the Eagles dumped Cunningham he had one good year with the Vikings and one decent year with us as a back up. By no means was he a lottery ticket. I’ll give you Rich Gannon but theres always an exception.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
I think of Vince Young doing a Randall Cunningham turn around he has some of those skills .
RC didn’t have a just one good year with the Vikings, He was first team all pro.
A good year is a 90.0 QB rating
Vince Young was #3 in the draft and he is still young enough to turn it around.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
Ok he had one great year with the Vikings
So what? They didn’t make an investment in the guy and he only started a handful of games after that year. I just don’t agree with your opinion on Vince Young thats all. I get your thought process and all that but just dont agree with you on Young. Cunningham was never a head case. Thats been Vince Youngs biggest problem.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
big reward for little invested that is why I like Vince Young.
We don’t have to spend a draft pick to get him.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
Besides, would Red Ball consider Young a "Right Kind of Guy?"
I honestly don’t think so.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
by silverblue5 on Jan 25, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
I actually like Campbell
I think he could run the offense without us having to change it a bunch. I don’t buy that he’s ‘damaged goods.’ Donocan McNabb is damaged goods. Campbell is just a guy who’s been asked to do too much on teams with too little.
by AikmanGeneration on Jan 25, 2012 8:11 AM CST reply actions
Hasn't Byron Leftwich done pretty well with the Steelers?
I’d hate to get anything from Pittsburgh, but believe he’s played ok?
I'd take Garrard or Orton
If they are willing to come in and be back ups then sure why not.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
I like Shawn Hill
I thought he filled in well in Detroit over the past couple years when Stafford was out.
Hopefully they go after Orton again
They guy is just like Kitna, not a great starter but very serviceable backup for a few games if needed.
In Romo we Trust
I agree Orton would be he most reliable as a backup, but not for more than they paid Kitna. I don't want to blow our salary cay on a bench warmer.
I could live with Hill and even Campbell, but I’m not real high on Young.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
for me
Campbell
Orton or
henne
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem
I say Brady Quinn
Charlie W’s offense is similar to Jason’s, so there shouldn’t be a huge learning curve. U still think the kid can play in this league.
by jtgreet02 on Jan 25, 2012 9:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I rather have Garrard
Quinn couldn’t even beat Tebow, that should tell you something.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Saints fan?
Or just can’t speak proper english?
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
And Gerrard is any better?
He is Old and got beat out by Gabbert.
by jtgreet02 on Jan 25, 2012 9:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
he didn't get beat out by Gabbert
Gabbert was given the job because he was the 10th pick in the draft. Not to mention Garrard had a serious back injury.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
As a backup Garrard would do just fine
As long as he is healthy and willing to be the backup.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
I'd like to see what Quinn can do. He's never been in a position where he can show if he has anything to offer.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Neither could Phillip Rivers.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
TRADE FOR MATT FLYNN!
Hah no. I was checking out Acme Packing Company, and some Packer fan actually wanted to trade Aaron Rodgers for draft picks, and go with Matt Flynn. I thought Cowboys fans were crazy but jeez..
by BrickTop on Jan 25, 2012 9:30 AM CST via mobile reply actions
That's right up there with the idiots that want to trade Romo.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Trade Romo, Ware, Witten, Dez, Miles, and Cowboys Stadium
while we can still get some value for them.
Sorry, dont know how to do the sarcasim font thingy.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Aaron Rodgers is younger than Romo and the Packers are Superbowl ready.
The Cowboys need to build quickly or they will miss out on Romo and Ware.
There is a huge difference
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
That is Brady.
and the Patriots invested in a QB of the future last year for a cheap price.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
The Pats got their QB of the future already
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
Trade Cowboys Stadium
That’s a new one. But I like it.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
glad someone appreciated it
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
Do you know how many happy meals we could get for all that?!?!?!
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
by Final Frame on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
To heck with that.
How many Egg McMuffins?
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Sean Lee is the Egg McMuffin of LB's
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
What is this Fascination
with Egg McMuffins?
Personally I detest them…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 26, 2012 4:53 AM CST up reply actions
Have you seen the commercials?
I think that’s the source of the running commentary…
Don't believe everything you think.
I want Gerrard!
I always thought David got a raw deal in Jax. He led the Jags to the playoffs the yr prior so was he that bad? I never understood why his name was not mentioned late this yr when teams were looking for a qb. Barring any major health issues he should be our backup over Quinn, Young, or others and then cut McGee and draft another project.
by Professor1 on Jan 25, 2012 9:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions
His name was mentioned
but he turned some teams down because of injury. He didn’t have back surgery until late in the season.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
I was wondering what...
Kitna’s W-L record and passer rating were during his time with the Boys. I would guess it went up since he had good skill position players here.
I would go after Orton with about 70 career starts he should be fine filling in with good skill position players like Witten and Miles and DeMarco and Dez and …
Kitna’s three years with the Cowboys: 4-5 as a starter, 87.3 rating. Kitna’s 88.9 rating for the 2010 season was his career high.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
Kitna was a good soldier for us
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Hope he has a great coaching career.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Bring in Orton
Then draft Ryan Lindley in 7th round and dump McGee
Flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct
15 yard penalty, automatic first down.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
oh my god that was funny!
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking for someone who lives in Charlotte
and sees plenty of Jimmy Clausen and the panthers. They would glady accept a bucket of grool in trade for Clausen. He is horrible.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
How you do see so much of him
Dude has only started in 10 NFL games?
by @Tonekupone on Jan 25, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Tarheel lives in Charlotte
I’ll take his word. I saw Clausen play a few times too he looked horrible.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Just up the road from Charlotte myself
Not hard to look horrible during your rookie campaign!
by @Tonekupone on Jan 25, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
You're right its not.
But I’ve seen enough in those 10 games. He was worse than McGee at checking down. But when i said “see” i really meant that I just hear alot about him through panther fans, preseason games, talk radio, newspapers all that stuff. But in the end you’re right, maybe he could develope if given enough time. I have this thing with rookie qb’s where I need to at least see a glimpse of what they can do. Like Troy, he was pretty bad his rookie year, but you could see flashes of what he was going to be. I just never saw anything remotely close to that with Clausen.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Colt McCoy or Jimmy Clausen
not a bad idea at all especially McCoy he has a chance to be good.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Colt McCoy maybe
But Jimmy Clausen is just horrible.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Colt will be good on a somewhat decent team, and with a QB coach that can work with him a bit
I’m still very sad he went to the place where players go to die…
No to Clausen an Colt
Clausen is not a locker room guy. In Camp Gruden, they asked him why as such a highly touted recruit he never led Notre Dame to anything of significance, and basically the guy threw his teammates and coaches under the bus. He was asked about the multiple delays of games penatlies, and poor reads he would make, and never took responsibility for anything. Also, the guy’s just not very good, the only throw he’s any good at making is the seam throw inside. He has zero arm strength on throws outside the numbers.
As to Colt McCoy, sorry, not happening, no way, no how. The guy just flat out isn’t very good. I know you Long Horn fans love him, hell I enjoyed watching him in CFB, but he’s nothing more than one of those great colldge QBs who can’t make it in the NFL. He’s footsteps McGee with more games under his belt.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Senior Bowlnorth practice comes in in about 10 minutes.
NFL Network if anyone wants to watch.
by BrickTop on Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM CST via mobile reply actions
If the Browns take RG III then get McCoy he has some Drew Brees in him.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:04 AM CST reply actions
You have a point
what’s the cost of his contract and how many years does he have left? The Boys will probably have to spend a 5th round pick to get him
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 25, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't complain at all if they
used a late pick to acquire Colt McCoy. He’s a young mobile guy that has a good head on his shoulders. He could get better.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Doesn't McCoy have concussion problems?
Maybe it was just the one, but it seemed like he was out for awhile this year.
by The Fall Guy on Jan 25, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Got pounded a couple times in college, too.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
It is worth the gamble.
He is a guy with upside.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:06 AM CST reply actions
We should be looking for a QB with a future if only so we can trade him.
The QB we have now is top 10 or better
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Who says Romo will be on this team 3 years from now??
His contract runs through 2013 and who is to say he will be extended?
Have to be prepared for that.
I agree that you should be prepared
but the answer is not available on that list.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Negative
We should be looking for a BACKUP!!!
Romo can easily be QB for the next 3-5 years (w/ the right O line). Every position has to have a backup – someone who’s fairly good but isn’t quite as good as the incumbent. Not every position can have a pro bowler waiting to happen…
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
I'm one of those guys that thinks you should draft a qb every year
Like the Packers in the 90’s. Even though they had Favre they spent draft picks on guys like Hassleback and Brunell. You should always be looking for qb’s to develope.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
Not counting Romo, Dallas hasn't been worth a damn at developing QBs.
But they haven’t had much to work with, thanks to Jerry.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
We need to get a guy in here to develop
so he is ready in 2 or 3 years if Romo is not around in 2013
Every team in football needs that
and if you don’t turn out to need the guy, you trade him for big draft picks, like Philly and GB have done. Both those teams are big into constantly churning for QB talent.
Don't believe everything you think.
Just heard Dallas is meeting with Weeden today.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
there's your #2 backup if he's on the board when Dallas drafts in the mid rds
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 11:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes, we need to draft our back up and eventual replacement
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Heck Im assuming (dangerous I know)
that we will not carry a FG and Kickoff specialist on the rooster next year, so hell ya, draft us a QB to take that roster spot
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem
I am not sure about every year, but I would like to draft them every other year.
And if you get a really good one you have some awesome trade bait.
Chad Henne or Jason Campbell
I would be happy with either of these players but they fill different roles to me. I, personally, am not sold on McGee being anything more than a middle of the round 2nd QB and probably more suited to hold a clipboard and run the scout team.
Jason Campbell would be a good backup to have. He has arm strength and has shown the ability to play well at times despite a lack of talent or organizational structure around him. However, with him being 30 already, he is just being brought in as a backup and not someone that I would want to be a potential starter, just insurance.
Chad Henne is only 26 years old and has starting experience. I believe that he would be a great addition to the team as a backup. Romo will be 32 by the time the season starts and I know that he did sit for 3 years so he is younger in “playing years”; however, I am concerned with injuries and age affecting him. Henne would be a good backup who could start if something where to happen to Romo and who could be the starter after Romo for a few years before we find our next franchise QB.
I do not believe Campbell would sign with the Cowboys as he will be looking for a starting position or at least a battle for a starting job and will not want to sit behind an entrenched starter such as Romo. Henne will be more likely to sign and possibly the better option
Chad Henne or Jason Campbell
both of those guys have some talent.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM CST reply actions
I would be happy with either of those guys.
I think they would be terrific back ups.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Romo is 32
Big deal, you guys act like thats old. Look at Favre, Warner, ect. Romo will be fine until at least 37 to 38 provided is line protects him. We have a five to six year window with Tony.
by I Bleed Blue and Silver on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions
He's 31. He's only a little older than Dumb Face and Philip Rivers, younger than
Brees. It’s bizarre the way some folks here want to put him out to pasture.
But he's just awful....
Have you seen him try to scramble around the pocket and find a receiver that shouldn’t be open but somehow is? OMG it’s awful watching that dude make plays but then just choke consistently. How can he possibly lead the team to a Superbowl if he can’t be clutch?
All he does is miss wide open receivers, throw errant balls to non-existent receivers, call stupid audibles, and let’s not forget his incessant desire to “extend plays” which ALWAYS end up in INTs or sacks. The guy sucks so much. His QB Rating should be -15.0 but the NFL Network and ESPN favor the Cowboys so much that they have skewed the rating system to favor him. Jeez, let’s not even get started on how bad he is in the 4th quarter… CHOKE ARTIST!
On a serious note, Romo isn’t the problem – I think even the most jaded fans know that whether they would like to admit it or not. The problem is the lines. Plural. O-line, D-line. SUCK.
On a side note...
All INT’s are completely random, so it really doesn’t matter if he has 4 or 40 for the season. The only thing that matters is YPA, right FiTaToPiA?
Whoever we bring in has to be at a reasonable price for 2-3yrs
IMO I do not see any of them as being capable of leading this team to a Superbowl if Romo goes down, at least not without an improved defense and o-line. Maybe look for one that can go 50/50 w/l if Romo is out a limited time. With all our other needs I would prefer we allocate those funds elsewhere in FA, i’m not saying we shouldn’t address, but that only if the price is right if not I’d go with McGee.
Is Romo even capable of taking this team to the Super Bowl?
LOL. 2007, 13 pro bowlers….
One and done in the playoffs..
Boy is Tony Romo awesome!
yup it's all Tony's fault
never mind Crayton’s drop late in the fourth quarter that would’ve iced the game.
never mind anthony henry and terence newman getting beat like turnstyles as Giants WRs kept dusting them deep.
nevermind the offensive line being offensive in their poor attempts at pass protection as the Giants stunted and twisted to generate an up the middle pass rush-sound familiar?
but yeah, never mind all that, let’s just take the simpleton view and blame Cabo San Tony for dating Jessic Simpson and spending a few days during the bye week on a beach. all his fault.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 2:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Don't waste the digits
this guy is either a troll or really un-bright. In either case, not worth your time. Plus, we need your talents focused on the draft!
Don't believe everything you think.
The pro bowl is a popularity contest
Some players get there every year due to great playing but anyone can get in if they go hot for a season, its not necessarily a great way at grading someone.
The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT
If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.
by Final Frame on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
Of the players listed
I like Shaun Hill the most. He can’t sustain a high level of play for more than 5-6 games, but he has been very good in spot duty for Detroit over the past few years. Isn’t that what you want behind a guy like Romo? I would be surprised if he doesn’t resign with Detroit.
After that I like (in order):
Orton
Carr
Cambell
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
Hill
has short arms and small hands. he grunts like a tennis player, in pain, after throwing a simple ten yrd out route.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jason Campbell
If he’s willing to be a backup. Think he would be outstanding and he could actually start if he had to.
Doesn't this post indict McGee
This is McGee’s fourth year as a Cowboy. McGee has gotten three years of solid coaching at the NFL level. McGee has started and won games in preseason and regular season. Yet the Cowboys are looking for a “quality” backup for Romo. Why then is McGee still on the roster if after all this time he still isn’t trusted to be a backup?
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
No one knows if the Cowboys are looking for a backup QB.
The meeting with Weeden is just doing your due diligence
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Agree, but I kinda doubt he's there in the mid rounds.
He looks good in his workouts. If he keeps looking good, a team like Washington or Miami might take him in the 2nd and plan on him starting day one.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
well we did have good luck with Bailey last year.......
probably just doing their due diligence but sometimes when a team scores on one player, they look harder at the teams those players came from.
Garrett needs some to be a gopher
Fetch him his water, send in the signals, and maybe try and get an edge by looking at the opposing teams’ huddle.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 12:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Actually he missed his rookie year on IR.
But I agree, if he isn’t good enough to jump in and play, dump him and pick up a rookie this year to work with.
Question
is it he’s not good enough or is this more of Dallas’s reluctance to trust young players?
Cut!
No. No. No, man.
You're making me fall asleep,
to death bro! -Ghandi
by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 25, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
McGee, Colt, Dennis Dixon, Campbell, Orton
In that order. I don’t know if Dixon is available or not but he could be a very good backup.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
gag me
if Campbell or Colt are the guys.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think we just stick with McGee, and draft/UDFA another QB.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Spend money elsewhere - Brady Quinn could be the back
Brady Quinn has never really been developed and has the talent to be a very servicable backup to Romo. Too many other needs on the team and Quinn should be relatively inexpensive.
why would he want to come to the Cowboys?
if he’s resigned to being a backup, why wouldn’t he just stay in Denver? He has a much better chance of starting if that’s what his motive is with the Tebow situation. Think about it: come to the Cowboys to be a backup or stay with the Broncos with the possibility of starting.
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got the link up in the fanshot section
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 25, 2012 1:54 PM CST reply actions
Colt
doesnt have the strongest arm but he is capable. Two or three years learning under Tony would help him tremendously and he would be the heir appearent. My biggest concern would be the fact that we would be calling for him after the first pick six that TR threw. We dont need Danny vs Gary act II
Hell and Horse Manure.....HIT SOMEONE
Team needs to look at the options.
I think they need to look at someone like Weeden or one of the other QBs in the late rounds that they think can develop. Bring them in and see if they can be a QB of the future. Meanwhile, see if there is a better QB than McGee for a backup. Then roll with the best combo, and if McGee earns a spot back on the team, good for him.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Drew Stanton or Josh Johnson
They’re young and worth the risk if we can get them cheap. They didn’t pan out as starters, but maybe they can as backups
See now I don't know about Johnson,
but Drew Stanton could be value on many levels. I have seen him play since his Mich State days and never thought he was given a fair shot with Stafford and Shaun Hill in front of him. He is only 27 and is the right kind of guy. Has won the Lions award for the last three years running for his community and charity work. It is a bit riskier than a seasoned veteran, but less risk than McGee.
The truth is...
if we drafted Jesus Christ to play QB as Cowboy fans we would be on HIS ass until he topped Troys 3 Bowls in 4 seasons.
Hell and Horse Manure.....HIT SOMEONE
I don't care who the backup is....
As long as he is better that McGee, I could live with it. McGee is 3rd string at best. He is just like the other GREAT QBs from Texas A&M… Backup QB University
by dcsince77 on Jan 25, 2012 8:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Kellen Moore!
Pick him up in the 6th rd. of the draft!
by rogerwhitedorcett on Jan 25, 2012 8:49 PM CST reply actions
I'd love Vince Young...
He acknowledged that he had a problem and thought Andy Reid would be able to fix it. Sure he hyped up the “Dream Team” bullhonkey, but he wanted to get help and no matter how much you hate the Eagles, you have to admit, Reid is a good coach. Furthermore, he is a good QB motivator. He gave Vick a chance when no one else cared to, and he turned Kolb into the trade of the year.
I guarantee you there is not team that Vince Young would rather play for than the Cowboys, and he could learn a LOT from Romo.
Will it happen? Hell no, but here’s to a pipe dream! raises glass
Just curious, but are you a Texas alum or student? Do you have some longhorn connection?
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Gotta go with Garrard on that list. He would bring best value in terms of price and security
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions
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