Scout's View: The Measurables
by Birddog26 on Jan 28, 2012 4:24 PM CST
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PrintIn my last Scout’s View post I discussed the 7 Critical Factors that are one part of a prospects grade. In scouting we measure and grade every possible aspect of a draft prospect. The team I work with grades everything on a scale of 1 to 9. A grade of 7 to 9 is in the strong range. A grade 5 to 6 is marginal, with a grade of 1 to 4 weak. Any grade below a 6 is a red flag for a prospect. As we get to the Combine we will see many numbers from height and weight to 3-cone drill.
Everyone has an opinion of what is being measured and what is a good or bad number. These are what we refer to as a prospect measurables and as scouts we have a very specific set of criteria outlined in our grade charts to assign a grade to each. While it is impossible for me to outline the full grade charts for all positions and all drills, I will try and give you a clearer understanding what a scout measures with each drill and a bench mark for grading that you can look at.
These measurements and grades could vary from team to team, but that deviation will not be by much, so you will get a good feel for most teams, including the Cowboys.
Each drill allows a scout to look at specifics that will affect a prospect's overall performance. The 40-yard dash looks at speed over distance. Splits are also timed during the 40 with the 10 yard split used to measure initial quickness and the 20 used to measure if they can maintain their initial burst. The 225 pound bench press measures upper body strength. The vertical and broad jumps are used to measure both explosiveness and leg strength. 20 yard shuttle measures flexibility, burst and balance. 60 yard shuttle measures flexibility, balance and endurance. The 3 cone drill measures agility and change of direction.
Looking through the posts and discussions of what prospects everyone feels we need to draft, I chose those that most people feel we need in the next draft. These are Guard/Center, Defensive End, Defensive Tackle, Inside Linebacker, Outside Linebacker, Safety and Cornerback.
The first set of numbers that will come out of the draft will be the Height and Weight for each prospect. The following table is the minimum height weight for the positions and receive a grade of 6. Anything below is an automatic removal from the draft board for the team I work for. This may or may not be the case for all teams and as I have stated these measurements could vary team to team, but that deviation will not be by much, so you will get a good feel for most teams, including the Cowboys.
| Position | OG | DT | DE | ILB | OLB | CB | S |
|
Height |
6-3 |
6-3 |
6-4 |
6-2 |
6-1 |
5-11 |
5-10 |
|
Weight |
270 |
270 |
270 |
235 |
225 |
195 |
185 |
One of the most talked about drills is the 40 yard times. In the following table I give the full grade breakdowns for a cornerback. This will give you a good idea of the splits for each grade.
| Grade | 9 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 |
|
Low Time |
4.35 |
4.40 |
4.45 |
4.50 |
4.55 |
4.60 |
4.65 |
4.70 |
In the following table, the measurements in each are the minimums that the team I work for wants for each position on the drills and would receive a grade of 6. As stated, anything below would be a red flag for the prospect.
| Drill | G/C | DT | DE | ILB | OLB | CB | S |
|
40-yard dash |
5.3 |
5.15 |
4.85 |
4.8 |
4.7 |
4.50 |
4.6 |
|
10-yard split (40) |
1.85 |
1.8 |
1.7 |
1.7 |
1.65 |
1.5 |
1.65 |
|
20-yard split (40) |
3.05 |
3 |
2.8 |
2.75 |
2.7 |
2.60 |
2.6 |
|
225-pound bench |
26 |
26 |
24 |
24 |
23 |
15 |
18 |
|
Vertical jump |
30 |
30 |
33 |
33 |
36 |
36 |
36 |
|
Broad jump |
8-6 |
8-9 |
9-9 |
9-6 |
9-9 |
10-0 |
10-0 |
|
20-yard shuttle |
4.55 |
4.55 |
4.3 |
4.2 |
4.1 |
4 |
4.05 |
|
60-yard shuttle |
12.3 |
12.1 |
11.8 |
11.7 |
11.4 |
11.2 |
11.2 |
|
3-cone drill |
7.85 |
7.75 |
7.35 |
7.2 |
7.1 |
7 |
7.1 |
Hopefully this gives some insight into the measurables and how they are used to grade prospects.
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awesome post
Thanks for sharing your knowledge birddog. I’m sure your watching the senior bowl. I’ve been unimpressed thus far by most of the pass rushers, anyone standing out to you on either side of the ball thus far? Mike Adams OT seems to be stonewalling every pass rusher they throw in front of him.
by matt575 on Jan 28, 2012 4:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I will get some stuff up from the airport in the morning. Thanks
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Fantastic stuff!
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
interesting that the minimum height for corners is 5-11
I wonder: has this changed in recent years with all the 6’3" receivers that have come into the league?
For the team I work for that is the minimum height.
Below that they are off the draft board at CB. They may still invite them to camp as a UDFA, but they will not draft them.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
So if Brandon Boykins is sitting there in the 4th or 5th round
Your team would not draft him? I’ve heard he could go as high as the second round. He’s 5’9".
"That's Jason's decision, but he doesn't need to be making that one by himself." --Jerry Jones, 12-26-11
It seemed pretty clear..
For the team I work for that is the minimum height. Below that they are off the draft board at CB. They may still invite them to camp as a UDFA, but they will not draft them.
Yes, he would be off the board
There are several reasons for this. In todays NFL the cornerbacks have needed to become much more versatile. They not only need to cover the physical receivers and the speed guys, but they have become much more important in run support on the outside. This change was just put in this year where they slid the scale for corners. When you look at the top corners in the NFL they are all 5-11 to 6-2 and in the 195 to 210 range. You do get someone like Antoine Winfield in there but they are the exception and not the rule. They are taking an approach to pick draft prospects that have the highest probability to be a succes in the NFL.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
For 34 OLBs
You need the 6’3 260 type guy with long arms
The OLB meyric given here looks more like what you’d see for the 43
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Well the 34 OLB fots similar body type to 43 DE
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Team I work for runs a 4-3 defense with light, speedy OLB's for coverage.
For the Cowboys you may need to look at DE.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
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I should say a hybrid 4-3
They try and use the front 4 to stop the run and LB’s that can excell in coverage while dropping to the LOS and have great persuit skills and tackle on running plays.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
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That's what I figured
by the chart you put up
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 28, 2012 8:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for the post Birddog
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
You have my rec Birddog!
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
Question...
Do NFL teams even look at cornerbacks that run a 4.7 40?
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they're called camp bodies
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 28, 2012 8:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That grade is a 2 on a sale of 1 to 9.
The bottom scale is a score of 6 they want. What I put up wast o give you a range. I said they wanted a score of 6 on all measurables. NFL teams grade all players, That does not mean they are prospects that will be on the draft board.
The grade on the 40 times was to give everyone a range that could look at and try and see what the other grade ranges would be.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
This was meant for doomsdat reaturns
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
To answer your question more in depth.
If I go to a school, I know my prospects. I still look at everyone I can. You may find a gem. Even though I ended up doing 31 DB’s I did another 267 other prospects also.
I will be doing a post about Depth Of Scouting in the future.
Sorry If I sounded bad, I read it after I posted it and thought I did.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
No, not at all.
Your thoughtfulness is appreciated. It makes more sense now. I don’t think my focus was all there when I was reading your piece the first time around. You probably get a lot of people not thinking clearly when you’re around.
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Good to hear from ya.
Together we’ll plant our footprint into the dumbing down of…well, whatever.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
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Dumbed-downs're...
… over my head. Like “not thinking clearly” Huh attempts at humor(?).
Plant before punt. Explains the bootprints on my backside.
That's one small step...
I get the humor.
It’s this thinking stuff I struggle with. That’s for the birds.
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CB and Safety Size Measurables
Are you sure you didn’t get those backwards? Aren’t safeties usually a bit bigger than CB’s?
I look at Wes Bunting’s Big Board and not one of the top eight weighs 195 and a few are only listed at 5’ 10".
by doomsdayreturns on Jan 28, 2012 8:57 PM CST reply actions
No the team I work for wants speed and weight up front
Corners are fast and can hang with the riecvers in the NFL. The safetiescan give up some weight but cover over the top. You need to devide LB’s and DB’s. For CB’d they need to be able to disrupt the reciver at the LOS. Safeties need to be able to have the speed for over the top or to drop down. It focuses on stopping the run but also shutting down the pass.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
Got any thoughts on George Iloka as a late round pick and whether he can succeed at the NFL level?
I’m no scout but he appears to have outstanding size and speed for a safety. He has a long track record of sure handed tackling. But I find myself wondering about his instincts, he seems to disappear at times. I’m not sure if that’s because he is shutting his zone down and the QB is going away from him or if it is a lack of playmaking ability and general inability to read the play instinctively and be in the right place at the right time.
Thanks for the posts you make and double thanks if you can answer the question.
I Wall of Text like it's the in thing to do
"...and just things really starting to unravel now for Utah..." Herbie, BSU vs. Utah, 22 Dec 2010
Raf put up a new mock last night including the Senior Bowl stuff, he has us taking Iloka in the 3rd in 1.
And he thinks he might move up to a 2nd round pick.
Iloka is a great kid who I think is a solid 3rd to 4th rounder.
He needs to work on his footwork and getting in and out of breaks. He lets recievers seperate from him on in and out routes. He does have the sie and speed but will need some work to be a starter.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
Sorry I was short or snippy with my answers
I really should have explained more better how everything ties back in a grade to the 7 critical factors.When we look at measurables they go back to:
Play speed
Confirmed speed
QAB (Quickness, Agility, Balance)
Strength and Explosion
For the team I contract with, The Critical Factors are what seperates those that make it and busts.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
Yes I am old and use the word "Snippy"
Let the age jokes begin
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
great post
i have a question for you. what if you have a prospect that runs a mediocre to slow 40, but their speed on the field(play speed) is quite a bit faster? that would seem to be a hard prospect to slot.
I think you are referring to their speed in pads....
it can be a little different and some teams do take that into account…from what I understand Rice fell in the draft due to a slower than expected 40 time at the combine but when it came time to put the pads on you never saw anybody catch him from behind….
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Jan 29, 2012 1:56 AM CST up reply actions
In my Scouts View Post Building a player profile
I talked about the 7 critical factors that we look at with all propects. Play speed is #2 on that list and deemed critical to a players success. They see it of equal importance of times speed.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
Awesome write up BD...keep up the great work....
anticipating greatly your write up about the senior bowl….
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Jan 29, 2012 1:57 AM CST reply actions
I'd be interested in your take on Quinton Coples, BD.
His performance in the Senior Bowl was very good, but do you agree that he has some flags?
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Coples will be a beast in the NFL
Some draft pundits out there took Coples drop off in production his senior year as meaning he was taking plays off. This was not the case at all. He was moved inside to tackle which is not his strong position. Top that off with spending all season being doubled team and getting chip blocked by the RB. He was litteraly having to take on 3 guys and he still did well. He plays like a beast at DE and could play with his hand down as an end or standing up as an outside linebacker. He plays fast and runs fast in the 40. He clocked a 4.67 for scouts at NC, this is fast when you consider an average end runs a 4.85. He was completely cleared by the NCAA in the UNC agent scandal. I do not see red flags out there.
Also when looking at some of the draft pundits pay close attention to what they say. Myself and several scouts had fun looking at some of the pindits scouting reports on Coples and saw them contradict themselves many times in their reports and then turn around and say he is a top 5 pick. I do not see Coples as a top 5, there is just to much talent in the top 5, but he should go somewhere between 7 and 14.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
I figured as much, but very reasuring BD.. As for fixing the pass rush I would like to see the Cowboys address the line then move out from there.
Hicks seems like an interesting prospect late in the draft to groom at DT. Seems pretty athletic what do you see in him
I'm one of those guys
Thought he’d be a high risk draft pick, but after I saw him work in the senior bowl I was impressed. I’m warming up to him. I do watch the Heels when I can, and I just didn’t see that much this season. They weren’t on much this season in Abq.
We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett
Met him at the Shrine Game
He is one big ass boy. With his wing span he could grab the guards on both sides of the center and force all 3 into the backfield. He really played well in the Shrine Game. Draft pundits will throw out character concerns on him that got him suspended from LSU by the NCAA.
This a link that outlines what happened. In all this I think it was DJ McCarthy who was realy at fault in all of this. He will be more dinged for his age but will be a good late round pick.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
did he declare for the draft?
the link you provided made it seem like he was staying in Canada……
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 29, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
He was playing at Regis University in Canada after leaving LSU
As I said the biggest knock on him will be his age. He is 28 right now.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
yeah that is a pretty tough
what round do you think he’ll go?….
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 29, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
I think 6th or 7th round
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sounds more reliable than most 6th & 7th round picks
seems like Dallas enjoys more success in UDFA
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by AustonianAggie on Jan 30, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
I do not work for the Boys but I am high on him
If he is the best slotted player I would not have a problem taking him.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
didn't realize he was that old...
has good size and athleticism…..
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by TruBluToTheCore on Jan 30, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
As always
You’r spot on.
Great job!
Recd.
If the play works, never run it again. If it fails, keep running it.
First and goal at the one. Run it three times in a row, and then kick a field goal. Sound familiar?
well obviously you don't work for Dallas
5’11 CBs to meet the minimum? where do those guys come from?
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theres a lot to chew here, but one thing I’m thinking as I read is that, if players are automatically removed — lets say for being a 6’3 DE, or 190 CB, there are obviously players who achieve despite these short comings. Might a savy team be able to get under valued under sized players who are better than their draft position then?
And how much of this template size wise is about a specific template of a player? I’d be curious to know if there is a maximum height set, or if it never really comes up
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by AustonianAggie on Jan 30, 2012 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
The max does not come up really. I can see some instances of this being a problem with Oline.
As to your question, are they trying to build a profile for the perfect player at each position. Yes, no if and or buts about it.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
What ratios of these values do you find the most useful? Are there any?
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On these measuables I look at the overall grade.
I have seen players who may score a 9 in one catagory but scored low in the others. When they were looked at through their whole career there was a 70 to 85% failure rate when every aspect of the grade was taken into account.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
A few questions
Why not use the 20-80 scale? The scouting world’s pretty old school, from what I understand, and that’s what baseball’s been using for forever. I was wondering if there were any reasons that NFL scouts didn’t use it too. Also back to baseball, teams like the Yankees scout players in their area starting as early as little league at time. Cito Culver they knew since he was in middle school, for example, and they have regional cross checkers in all the baseball hotspots. Is it the same for football? Have the Cowboys been looking at say Dre Kirkpatrick since he was a freshmen in high school? Or do they just let the colleges weed out the good players from the bad?
Two, do the Cowboys have any advanced metrics that they use? While football isn’t as easy to quantify as baseball, there is still quite a bit out there. With as advanced as video tape is on these players you can see just about every player on every play. So while it’s hard to pin it on exactly what or who is at fault for what happens on a given play, but you can get pretty close. For the Cowboys to annoy this advantage would seem to be foolish, at best.
Three, is my man crush on David DeCastro unhealthy?
Omar, I do not scout for the Cowboys but I can say they are developing the same standards as the team I contract with.
The team I contract with started on a smaller scale on offense and kept developing and they have reaped the rewards. Now they are turning it to defense. They also use a very high level of research and analytics in all aspects of their operations. The spend more money now on research and analytics than a lot of teams spend on their entire scouting, player personel and player development departments. The Cowboys are not there yet but are getting there. They started restructering their scouting operations in 2008. This last offseason that started up a full research and analytics department. I have seen the top folks for the last two years at the MIT/Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. I feel they are on the right path.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
How do I get a job in analytics?
I have a degree in math and in a year and a half I’ll also have a JD.
by Omar Little on Jan 31, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
Alec Schiener is the General Counsel and Senior VP for the Cowboys that is overseeing the startup of the analytics department
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
I would definetly email him your resume and tell him of your intrest in sports analytics and working for the Cowboys.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
I think DeCastro solid
I see 4 players who may fall to the Boys. Ingram, Coples, Upshaw and Decastro. I would love any one of them.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
hey BD
I posted a Scenario to Chia on his latest post…Would love your opinion on it
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 30, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
So, you're asking this guy for a favor
And…you’re referring him to another fan post and making him find it and then responding to you, rather than just simply asking him the dang question. Geez you’re a jerk.
;)
by Omar Little on Jan 31, 2012 12:16 AM CST up reply actions
birddog
Does your team value college production and performance over measureables??
In Romo we Trust
It is the total picture
If you look at the post I did on Building a Player Profile the 7 Critical Factors iswhat is highly thought of. That is what I started with and defines their RKG type of person. I will delve into this somemore up to the NFL Draft. The posts I am currently working on are,
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
… awesome, deleted, censored, top secret?
Man, you can’t leave us hanging like that.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 31, 2012 4:23 AM CST up reply actions
Posts I am working on
1. Depth of scouting: I will talk about the level of checks, double checks and triple checks in the scouting process and then how the Pro Scouts and coaches get into the mix. Jerry talked some about this in his interview this last week.
2. The interview process: The interview process is used to help answer some questions about not only character but mental awareness. I also want to discuss the level of work that is done on the interviews and just how deep they go.
3. Beyond Wonderlic: New era scouting and tests some teams are using to delve even further into a prospect.
OCC , I think the gremlins ate the last part of my reponse
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
Posts I am working on
1. Depth of scouting: I will talk about the level of checks, double checks and triple checks in the scouting process and then how the Pro Scouts and coaches get into the mix. Jerry talked some about this in his interview this last week.
2. The interview process: The interview process is used to help answer some questions about not only character but mental awareness. I also want to discuss the level of work that is done on the interviews and just how deep they go.
3. Beyond Wonderlic: New era scouting and tests some teams are using to delve even further into a prospect.
Gremlins keep eating thee rest of my response
OCC
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
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