Cowboys Free Agency Talk: Time To Tap The Brakes A Bit
by rabblerousr on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 PM CST
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PrintIn the comments sections following a slew of terrific "prospective free agents" posts by O.C.C., Tom et. al., our loyal readership has offered numerous approaches to the offseason. Many of these have included targeting top-flight free agents at the Cowboys' positions of need: Carl Nicks to shore up OG; Mario Williams to provide some much-needed pass rush; Cortland Finnegan to give us a lift at corner, in terms of feistiness as well as coverage skills.
As we creep within a month of free agency, I think we need to tap the brakes on this kind of talk.
A brief history: at the dawning of NFL free agency, teams were quick to sign big-ticket free agents who would upgrade their rosters. Reggie White was, and remains, the poster child for such free agent dreams: he was instrumental in resuscitating the Packers organization. Moreover, because clubs hadn't yet figured out how to manage the cap, more of these types of guys were available. Early in the new millennium, however, teams began to get on top of the cap, and were therefore capable of keeping their top players. For some time now, the only free agents that leave their original teams are those that the team no longer wants, not those they can't afford. In short, the people that know a player best have a compelling reason for no longer wanting his services.
Further Rabblesian ruminations after the jump...
Over the past decade, we have thus seen a new trend emerge. Rather than paying out big money for other teams' (admittedly talented) rejects, NFL front offices have begun to use free agency to fill roster holes by signing mid-level veterans. They spend the big money to keep their home-grown talent - guys that are in the building every day, who they know they can rely on. The only organizations that continue to sign the big-ticket players are either 1) out of control (see: pre-Shanahan Redskins) or 2) feel that they are one player away.
Consider the Cowboys in recent years. Every February, we engage in the same exercise, drooling over the list of potential FAs, fantasizing about their feats of skill when wearing the star, only to be let down. Darnit, Jerry," the disappointed fans lament, "why won't you spend the money to make this team better. Don't you want to win?" Indeed, Jerry does want to win, and IS spending the money. Its just that he's spending it on his own guys, doling out big money to keep them away from free agency. This is, in fact, precisely what the better organizations do--and Jerry, to his credit, has adopted this as an organizational model.
Now, we can certainly criticize him for re-upping certain players: "Ken Hamlin, really?" But this doesn't mean the overall strategy isn't sound. Think about Dallas' recent forays into the free agency maelstrom: Anthony Henry, Marco Rivera, Kyle Kosier, Akin Ayodele, Igor Olshansky, Gerald Sensabaugh, Abram Elam. How many of these guys were at the top of anybody's free agent wish-list? If you said anything other than "none," you're either a bit daft or an NFL scout.
Sure there have been exceptions: certainly Terrell Owens, perhaps Leonard Davis. Pacman Jones comes to mind. But these guys were added to the roster at a time when Jerry Jones thought the team was a player or two away, or couldn't compete unless he had a dynamic guy at a given position. Most years - and every one since that ill-fated 2008 offseason - the Cowboys prefer to sit out the early feeding frenzy, allow the dust to clear, and pick up a couple of serviceable guys who can hold down the fort until a more talented draft choice takes their place (the team's ills can be traced to their inability to find these replacements, but that's fodder for another post)
So I ask: why would things change this year? When Jerry proclaims publicly that, thanks to son Stephen, the 'Boys have room to maneuver under the cap and so they can do what they need to accomplish, I really don't think he means going out and signing Carl Nicks and Mario Williams. Rather, he'll be looking to fill the most glaring roster holes with veterans whose contracts can be replaced or dumped should a promising youngster capture his starting role. And, now that the level-headed, more globally thinking Jason Garrett is aboard, I'd expect talent acquisition, like everything else at Valley Ranch, to be more than ever about "process."
When you pore over O.C.C.'s superb position-by-position lists of free agents looking for future Cowboys, skip over the names at the top of the list, the dudes with a Pro Bowl or two to their credit, and look for the more durable, dependable (and expendable) economy models.
And pray for better, more consistent drafting; that's where the big-game players are likely to come.
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YOu have to sign Nicks
Kosier is done and they have no one else. Plus it would help Smith transition to LT if you could put him next to the best guard in the NFL
by Nardfather on Jan 30, 2012 12:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Nicks
Coples
CB
and keep Spencer
Do that I and we are as good as the Packers or the Patriots.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
That's right, he may not make passed the 5th pick.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I would do it.
cause as I said
You get Coples , Nicks , and a good CB
and we are as good as the Packers or the Patriots.
Rebuilding doesn’t have to be a process. We can get to where we want to be right away. No multi year project.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
You still have a big need for center,
and Allen Ball is a corner or do you have someone in mind?
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
get one DB in the draft.
As for Center we just fudge it. Pretend we got an injured starter.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
well, the scouts do say this is a good draft for good corners
just not any great ones,
I say move Kosier to center, he’s been practicing for two years now to play the role as a backup, let him have it.
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
NO
DRAFT a C.
Center is the 2nd hardest position to play outside of QB. The Boys need to quit trying to draft guys w/ the hopes of moving them to other positions. If you want a FS, then draft someone who’s played FS for 3-4 years. Same for C, OG, 3-4 OLB and 3-4 DE.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 30, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
sure but I would rather fix DE and CB before C
If don’t get better at both DE and CB right away then we ought to write of the next two seasons.
The Idea is not to go 10- 6 win the NFC East and then get laughed out of Greenbay. That is not my idea of a successful season.
Gamble and go for the Superbowl.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I know what you mean like
the ware from de to olb
or ratliff from de to nt,
Parcells—-“football players play football”
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with Stern.
He played all along the line at Wisconsin, including Center, no?
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
First Kosier played with plantar fisciatis all year,,,, his demise may be off
I’m not sure Mr. Sterns proposal fixes anything,,,,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
He played through that?
Wow. NBA players take off time with that injury.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes, he did,,,
It is both good and bad,,,, Once again it appears we were handcuffed by not having enough guys who knew the blocking calls, but this year at least we can blame some of it on the lockout, Holland was to fat, Nagy had an injury that eventually IR’ed him, Dockery broke his leg, Costa played with a strained neck, AND ARKIN STILL NEVER SAW THE FIELD!!!!
The team did the same thing with Free, never dressed him either and everyone called him a bust, I think the team takes one lineman and builds on them without the pressure of playing games,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
That's a tough one...
I was playing softball in May of this past year (2011), when my heel began killing me. I assumed it would go away soon, it didn’t. I played the rest of the season with it and couldn’t walk the day after each game. Went to the doc, who referred me to a podiatrist. Plantar Fasciitis. I got two different cortisone injections, shoe inserts, a walking boot for six weeks, and a month of physical therapy. It got better, but not back to normal. And, lately, it seems to be getting worse again. I have researched, and some people have to have surgery (I likely fall in that category), and that doesn’t even fix them all. That is a tough injury and I have newfound respect for those who play professional sports and have that particular injury.
probably you had other things to do besides rehab.
granted, these men have athleticism that few (if any) of us have, but on the other hand if they do not work (i.e. practice and play) all they have to care about is rehab.
by slowmotion80 on Jan 30, 2012 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
This particular injury can't heal if you're on your feet.
I have tendinitis in my elbows and Plantar Fasciaitis. They are both issues that will flare up with activity (eg games, practices, running, walking, standing) and it can take 2 weeks of staying off your feet as much as you can for them to feel somewhat normal again. if you stay active, which Kosier did, it would not have gone away.
I’m almost glad to know that that’s what he’s had though, it might mean his decline in performance can be attributed to that.
My case isn’t super drastic, but every step I took was misery and at the end of the day, standing still on a hard floor was unbearable. I was always trying to change how i distribute my weight between the balls of my feet and my heels to find that magic spot where I didn’t have as much pain. I could see how that could sap your strength over the game
Yes it can go away even if you work.
I had it, not as severe as you did. I took steroids for a month and just kept working. Standing on my feet 10 hours a day in work boots on concrete. It went away after 4 weeks.
It is painful, but if you can take the pain you can ignore it.
Raf has a post here giving a good sense of a possible off-season blueprint for the Cowboys, based on comments they have made plus some insight from Broaddus, who says Valley Ranch is more focus on Center than Guard in FA. So rather than going after the top FA G in Nicks, look for them to go after Scott Well or Chris Myers as mid-tier FA Cs. Add a lower-ticket backup QB, and that still leaves room to go after a big ticket defensive player, either CB or pass rusher (e.g. Calais Campbell, Cliff Avril or Mario Williams).
Meanwhile, G and CB are deep positions in the draft, and relatively easy to fill…
If the Cowboys can land that rusher and a center, they fill two of their biggest needs without blocking or rendering redundant picks they could make in the 1st and 2nd round. If a David DeCastro sits atop their board at 14, they could take him without hesitation. Fans may argue that signing a Nicks and drafting a DeCastro would upgrade the line, but going that route would still leave Dallas vulnerable at center […]. And Nicks’ big deal would lessen the funds Jerry has to chase a rusher.
Filling these two roles would let Dallas go for a corner and a safety high in the draft, perhaps with the first two picks, and still have guard options in all of the early rounds.
That’s how I’m seeing it today — a rusher and a center in free agency and a heavy dose of D-back in the first four rounds.
makes sense to me and other than a possible top-level pass rusher, it’s consistent with your take rr.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
by scottmaui on Jan 30, 2012 12:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Good in theory . . .
But have you seen the centers available in free agency?
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
yea its deep so I've heard,
the kid from houston is top on the list for us because he calls a zone scheme almost like our own, he would fit.
Downside is he is 30
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Deep, but with a lot of tread on the tires . . .
1. Scott Wells, Packers – Age 31, will probably re-sign with Green Bay
2. Nick Hardwick, Chargers – Age 30, planning on retiring
3. Chris Myers, Texans – Age 30, strictly ZBS and does not handle NT (small)
4. Dan Koppen, Patriots – Age 32 (33 in Sep), fractured fibula, missed 2011
5. Samson Satele, Raiders – Age 27, suffered concussions in 2011, possibility
6. Matt Birk, Ravens – Age 36, ‘nuff said
7. Jeff Saturday, Colts – Age 37, ’nuff said
8. Todd McClure, Falcons – Age 35, ditto
9. Will Montgomery, Redksins – Age 29, C/G back-up expected to re-sign with Skins
10. Casey Wiegmann, Chiefs – Age 39, makes Saturday look young
11. Mike Pollack, Colts – Age 27, C/G back-up will probably take Saturday’s place
Or I guess we could always re-sign Gurode.
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
if u had some beef next to Myers you could cover his limitations.
But yeah doesn’t look too ‘deep’ to me either.
by StarloverinWNC on Jan 30, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
Age on centers usually tends to be higher
for whatever reason centers seem to have a lot of longevity in the NFL.. so being 30 years old isn’t an issue
by NUHuskyCowboyMinutemanCeltic on Jan 30, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
I recall Mike Mayock
Saying he was one of the most underrated players in the league, he’d be a great addition if he leaves Houston.
Dallas Defense = Cowboys from Hell
When did the Cowboys switch Zone?
the kid from houston is top on the list for us because he calls a zone scheme almost like our own, he would fit.
Doug and Tyron might be able to handle it, but the interior: not a chance.
If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned. ~Ayatollah Khomeini~
have you seen the Centers in the draft?
Konz is the only one likely capable of coming in and starting, and he’s probably not worth a pick at 14, but probably won’t last until our 2nd round pick.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Seen pretty well all of 'em . . .
As I put the Big Board together for Drafttek . . . along with Konz, there’s Ben Jones of Georgia, Mike Brewster of Ohio State, Brandon Washington, a guard from Miami can play center, Phil Blake from Baylor and Quinton Saulsberry from Mississippi State . . . after that, it’s a bunch of guys named Fred.
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
by Long Ball on Jan 30, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Do you think Brewster can start day one?
He was a fringe first rounder before a down year at OSU, but he has the talent to start eventually, I’m just not sure how soon.
Dallas Defense = Cowboys from Hell
Depends on your evaluation of Costa/Kowalski . . .
LOL, just jerkin’ yer chain . . . quite frankly, I’d take Washington over him and maybe Blake as well. He needs to get stronger, probably a year 2 starter.
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
Very few OL are effective on day one
That is why Jerry never drafted the in the first round. Centers, and guards for that matter, are almost never drafted before the late first round. Most of the top ones go second round and later.
If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned. ~Ayatollah Khomeini~
by RenoCowboy on Jan 30, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Brewster
From what I saw at the Senior Bowl, I think this guy could get his name called in the late 2nd or 3rd round. I watched him the entire game(started watching Brandon Thompson, but Brewster was blocking him most snaps and caught my eye quickly)
For the most part, I never saw anyone break the pocket on him. There was one play in particular that really caught my eye where he was providing double team support for the LG, the MLB stunted from the far right to make a pushed through the gap, and with what would be the equivalent to a no look pass in basketball, Brewster dove a solid yard and a half to his right to make a killer solo cut block.
Overall, a center is not necessarily required to make a lot of “pancake blocks” by himself. Should be more of a line manager and rangy support blocker for both guards.
I think the boys NEED to make a move on either Nicks or Grubbs, draft DeCastro or Brewster in the first three rounds. Keep Kosier around for insurance for the young guys’ progression. But, if Arkin, Nagy, Kowalski, or Costa(who are all, in my opinion, at the least high caliber backup interior linemen with NFL experience) make a sophomore leap then they get a shot.
What do I WANT?
Since it’s impossible to predict trades, I’ll go straight FA and Draft.
FA
Nicks/Grubbs
Spencer
Fiametta
Landry(If healthy)/Griffin
Draft
1 Dre Kirkpatrick
2 Brandon Thompson/Ta’amu or 1st rounder who has slipped(See Lee/Carter)
3 Michael Brewster
4 Brandon Boykin (Wooo! No more Ball)
5 Joe Adams
6 DT Prospect
7 TE Prospect
I wouldn't complain if Raf's plan unfolded
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
meaning, it played out that way
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"Tap the brakes"???
Hell Rabble, I had to look at my browser address line . . . I thought I might be on the mothership reading Mickeroo! LOL!
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
Mickeroo *spits*
You, sir, are a villain to make such accusations! I drop my glove, and will see you, with pistols, at dawn!
by rabblerousr on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Mickey's a good guy, just a bit of a homer.
Hell, so are most of us.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
You know there's a saying about that....
When you KNOW there’s going to be trouble… you bring a rifle.
Don't believe everything you think.
My pistol is jammed and my glove doesn't fit . . .
And I won’t get up at dawn to fight a little . . . .
Outhouse poetry at its finest!!!
From the hometown of Bob Lilly,
Tracy Porter
He was a Cowboys draft target. He’s still relatively young (26 yrs old) he made plays for the Saints the year they won the SB: 4 INTs, 12 passes defensed, 1 TD, 2 forced fumbles. He had the game clinching pick 6 against Peyton in the SB. Porter struggled in 2010: 1 INT, and 8 passes defended, however, in 2011 he had 1 INT, 10 passes defended, and 2 forced fumbles.
If the Saints don’t bring him back, I wouldn’t mind him on the Cowboys.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:16 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
+1
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem
Tracy porter is like Mike Jenkins
Very injury prone.
by bitterlyhonest on Jan 30, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
Getting Mario would be almost like the Packers getting Reggie White
It is worth the money.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 12:17 PM CST reply actions
If you go by Raf's strategy
Meyers or Wells at C; a cheap backup QB; and a pass rusher like Mario Williams can be had.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The larger piint here is that the positins are probably right
but we need to project different players.
look further down the lists at those positions…
by rabblerousr on Jan 30, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
The larger pint is whichever holds the Guinness
Because it’ll drink like a quart.
My most recent fanpost:
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by CotySaxman on Jan 30, 2012 3:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It would be similar to the Packers getting Reggie White
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
A small problem, he doesn't like th 3-4
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Not only that
but you can’t pay Ware and Mario Williams. Ain’t gonna happen.
but you can’t block Ware and Mario Williams.
post corrected
find a way to make it happen
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
and not worry about our interior O-line, DBs and ILB.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
We need a CB
We will get one in the draft.
ILB we got BRUCE LEE
OL we fudge it we got Arkin Nagy Holland.
But if we get Williams we are free to go OL / DB or DB/ OL in the draft
Lets play a thought game.
We get Ware and Williams. What does Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers do against us?
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
If we get Mario and Ware no one is going to want to play us.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone has problems.
Including the Pats and the Packers.
We get a DE and a CB and a Guard and I like our chances against anyone.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't say that he doesn't liek the 3-4
but he’s definitely not used to it. He was playing stand up for the first time in his career with a shortened offseason and recorded 5 sacks in 5 games before getting injured. I think a talent like his help out this defense a lot opposite Ware, but it’s nothing more than a dream.
Ware and Mario
I’m starting to see it working. I’ve been the one saying Mario won’t sign with a 3-4 team unless he stays in Houston, however, I do like the idea of Ware and Mario as the starting OLBs.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It would be huge
Where does the opposing offense shift protection? Which side do you move the TE to? With Ratliff coming from the middle or sliding to DE and these two coming from the outside, our DBs would look like All Pros.
The Giants biggest concern was their secondary, and they’re in the Super Bowl because of their pressure up front. JPP, Canty, Osi, Tuck, Cofield, Joseph and Marvin Austin returning next year from injury.
Now that I think about it, we may need OL help just as bad :)
We get Mario we are free to go OL DB OLB in the draft.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
I keep reading that here but I have never read it anywhere elsel
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
sure, if you're only one player away...
which, alas, is not the case in Dallas.
by rabblerousr on Jan 30, 2012 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
You are so right. We are always left holding our blue balls at the end of Free Agency. I’m sure he’s gonna give us the high hard one again this year. But why do you want to crush our dreams for greatness. Next week is the most optimistic time of the year. All 32 teams again have a chance at the Big Game.
I just wish he’d sign a top-end Corner and an above average Guard or Center. REALLY is that SOOOO much to ask for?
by StarloverinWNC on Jan 30, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions
Paul Soliai @ NT
I’d think he’d be a “more durable, dependable (and expendable) economy model”. He’s young at 26 and the Dolphins are going to a 4-3 next season I’ve heard. Besides they have contract issues since last season so I think he’s ready to leave and he wouldn’t cost a bank.
God 1st, Family Always & Dallas Cowboys 4 Life!!!!!
most of Miami's defensive line are free agents this year....
Philip Merling, Kendall Langford, Paul Soliai, all of which with thier experience in the 3-4 makes them viable targets for us….and they are all on the right side of 30…mid 20-s every one….
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 4:54 AM CST up reply actions
It is the only way to win in the cap era I believe,,,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
If you know how to grow it, it'll kick ass.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Landry's teams were about 98% home grown.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
well yes, but there were only about 6 real franchises in the NFL then
and no cap,,,, there were very few free agents,,, truth be told I liked it better that way.
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Things won't change
but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t. The perennial contenders aren’t afraid to let their role players go and test the market. Jerry is continually overpaying his current players because he over-evaluates his “home grown” players. While this method works for the perennial contenders, it is just not working for the Cowboys.
One playoff win in 15 years with our lifetime GM.
I should add
that one impact FA would help this team in a huge way. Whether it be another OLB or on the OL. Nnamdi or Jenkins last year would’ve helped out our defense a lot. Jerry was content with the talent on our defense and our “home grown” OL, and it hurt us in the end.
if he was content then why the push to sign Nnamdi....
he tried and we got stuck with TNew for another year and it bit us but JJ did try to get that FA
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 4:56 AM CST up reply actions
you do relize we just let our whole offensive line go but Kosier don't you,,,
Roy Williams, Choice, Ratliff, ect-ect- I see this as a sign of things to come, I believe that was round one,,, I’m expecting some big surprises this year. And I see those moves as promising.
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
who do you think will get jettisoned this off-season?
Im going to stick a fork in my eye if Newman & Ball are still on this team come September.
by StarloverinWNC on Jan 30, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Nice list but I think Ball stays,,,
players who can play two positions are valuable, and he was not that bad for a fourth corner, find a better one not on the Eagles roster,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Ball will be let go...he had TO on his butt and TNew had AST...
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 4:57 AM CST up reply actions
I think Brooking and James may both be gone.
The team will need an ILB in the draft, I think, to do that, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Spencer has more value to the team than either Brooking or James, just because they are both worn down and pretty much helpless in coverage.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
You do realize that Ratliff still plays for the Cowboys don't you..
It was just not the best personnel decision to head into a season with 3 unproven players protecting your franchise QB, and to expect different results from the same pieces on defense.
Terrell Owens, Leonard Davis, PacMan Jones....
All guys with “Character issues”. The teams were willing to let them go for those reasons. (Davis it was work ethic, was defined as a ‘bust’ in cardinal land before we got him).
Newman is Bad!
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Jan 30, 2012 12:26 PM CST reply actions
All of those were Jerry's guys
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
More aptly titled "Jerry's Kids"
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Jan 30, 2012 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Two of those three played at pro bowl levels when they got here
Romo broke Cowboys records with Owens his first year, and Davis was probably one of the best guards in the league his first two years,,,,, both got old
And pac man just threw his life away being a dumb azz
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
That's what worries me about drafting Jenkins, can't fix stupid.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I live in Nashville
and I work with people that have a little know,,,, it is amazing just how stupid he and L. White were,,, Vince Young too,,,,, The Titans might have had the lowest collective IQ in the history of sports not to long ago,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
THIS
is an excellent article Rabble.
I would agree w/ everything written. I don’t like Mario or Nicks for this team and I certainly don’t advocate a CB who got beat up on National TV by the quietest WR in the league.
Great teams DRAFT their stars – desperate teams sign other people’s cast offs.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 30, 2012 12:54 PM CST reply actions
you do have to give the CB credit for at least standing up to Andre who has him by at least 5 inches and 30 lbs....
thats the kind of feisty that this team hasn’t had in a long time unless it was calling out each other….
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 4:59 AM CST up reply actions
If the Texans don't re-sign Mario Williams, for example...
…its not because they don’t have the money—all teams can sign whomever they want, now that everybody has an expert capologist on staff.
If they let him go, its because they don’t think he’s worth keeping.
And that’d be telling.
Or he's overpaid way too much in the FA market.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
see what Charles Johnson from the Panthers got as a benchmark....
Mario would be wanting more than what we resigned Ware for…..
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 5:00 AM CST up reply actions
On the other hand
Didn’t they field a decent D largely without Williams this season? I think they’ve decided he isn’t worth keeping – at the money he’s going to command in the market.
If anything that’s shrewd and the opposite of Jerry-world. Remember, in any auction, and that’s what FA is, the winner inevitably overpays.
'I have wasted Time and Time doth waste me'
Jerry Jones as Richard II - Act 5, Scene 5
Got to give Jerry credit, he let the NYG have Canty when they overpaid for him.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Truth be told
The Texans don’t really need Mario – their D was among the best last year w/o him playing significant minutes.
MW is a 4-3 DE. He just is. He would be a MONSTER w/ the Giants or Colts or Lions or similar team. But as a 3-4 OLB, he’s just another good player.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 30, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
You got a thought there
but can Rob Ryan coach a 5-2-4 scheme. That is significantly different than a 3 -4 in terms of gap coverage and zone passing responsibility.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 30, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
His dad ran the 46 defense.
With Ware and Williams we would have the personal to play the 46 defense.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Blain Bishop an ex safety who played for Buddy
helps out with DB’s at a local high school here, he was saying teams found a weakness in that D,,,, I can’t remember everything he said but the spread offense destroyed it I guess,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
Not the DBs
Short, quick passing game kills the 46
Dallas Defense = Cowboys from Hell
It did a job on Montana in 1985. Bears won that game 23-10.
The 49ers did not have an offensive touchdown in that game.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
Aikman ate that defense alive once the boys were rolling....
Irvin, Novacek on hot routes and they couldn’t be stopped…..
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 5:04 AM CST up reply actions
truth be told tho Houston wasn't exactly playing tough teams this year in their division...
No Manning, Jacksonville twice with Gabbert….toughest games on their schedule was against Tenn and Hasselbeck and CJ (once he got the cobwebs out of his arse)
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 5:02 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure if I agree with that
from what I understand, Texans are going to be hard up against the cap this year and will have a very hard time signing all the FAs they might like to keep. Williams could be the one who doesn’t fit and they have to let go.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
JJ Watt
JJ Watt will make the Texans feel a little better about the post mario Williams era…if and when it begins….Watt is a stud.
If we don’t sit on our hands we can get Mario or draft our own JJ Watt ( Coples)
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
we trade up for coples.
If we get Coples we cover up Spencer.
We get
Carl Nick
Coples
a Corner
We go to the Superbowl
It is that easy.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
haha, I just don't agree,
were not going to any super bowl with Romo on the side lines holding a clip board,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
yes but its not going to happen this way
scouts have leaked they are not in the free agent market for a guard, Nicks is going to want half of the 20 million we have in cap space, Marrio williams would take the other half,,, I don’t think we will get either. It is going to be someone we don’t expect like a kosier.
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Two ways to play this
get Mario
draft a guard
a CB
a LB
or
Get Nicks
Trade up draft Coples
Get a CB
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
there’s allot of permutations.
Let’s not kid ourselves. But recent trends show that the cerebral guy that JG is lays out the permutations and then has a fluid plan for most situations. (I hope anyway)
by StarloverinWNC on Jan 30, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
We get a DE
I don’t care if it is Mario , Coples or Campbell.
We cover up Spencer.
Then all we need to do is get a CB
and our defense is pretty good
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
How bout Mario, I thought we were signing him?
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
There are different ways to play this.
We need a play making DE along with a CB in the worst way.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Have you told Jerry your plan?
I’m sure he’ll never think of it by himself.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
OK what is the point of posting on this board?
Why does anyone post.
Lets close down the blog since Jerry thinks of everything and won’t listen to us.
This blog is sort of like football porn.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Lol, Dude, you're jumping around like a "Cat on a hot tin roof"
RIP Liz.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
What I'm trying to say is that
even teams hard up against the cap can find wiggle room (via extensions, cutting dead weight, etc.) to sign a high-priority guy.
Now, that may cost them 2-3 mediocre guys, good soldier types. But it can be done. All teams do it.
how excited is everyone...???
Tyron Smith, Bruce Carter, and DeMarco Murray…
How exciting can a proper time frame for free agency be (followed by a top 15 and top 50 draft) for Jason garrett and Company to further address glqaring needs on this team.
We finally have a braintrust we may actually be able to trust when it comes to fortifying our team!!!!
Can Not Wait!!!!
Lee and Dez the year before,
I agree completly very excited to see the plan unfold,,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
I believe -
All this DeCastro (Who I love) and CB talk is just that…I think Garrett is going to go with a front seven monster for the defense…I think this draft will surprise and puzzle us all…a WR early…or a back up QB…something out of left field…and like the Demarco Murray pick…we will all wonder why at that spot, but half way through 2012 we will be pounding our chests about the pick…
I am totally psyched…and no I did not graduate Ridgemont High!
the last two drafts
we have done relatively well in the top rounds
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Bruce Carter -
Already blocked a punt.
The kid looks like he’ll have a knack to play in this league…
A full off-season will do him wonders…just like Sean Lee…
Don't give up on
Costa, Nagy, and especially Arkin,,, The coaching staffs own words were Nagy is more polished but Arkin is going to be a better guard,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
If Nagy and Arkin both stick, even as backups, the draft will have been very successful.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
I say Nagy will be the Center in the future.
I can’t support that, but its what I think behind the anonymity of the interwebzz
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
if he gets back to his pre scooter self where he was keeping Konz on the bench why not....
Konz is best center of this draft…Nagy was keeping him on the bench pre scooter….couple years to get back into football shape and walla….instant cure for the center ills that trouble us….lol…
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 2, 2012 5:08 AM CST up reply actions
Costa sucks the big one
and that is an understatement
If serious work is not done on the O line this offseason, Romo finished next year on IR or in the Morgue
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 31, 2012 6:58 AM CST up reply actions
I think this is all Garrett-hype
I’m a big Garrett fan! This team is definitely going to be back where it should be, but it will not be the dynasty we all expect. Not even Belichek and Brady have been in the Superbowl since 2008. Dynasty’s are hard to come by and maintain, none of us expected Pitt and GB to be out in the 1st round of the playoffs.
The 1st Garrett draft was all good early and even though we did lose out later, Harris and Nagy still look like good picks and Arkin may be a monster soon with Callahan in charge of his development. We have an edge in player development, something we have lacked until now.
Murray has been the #1 RB at every level, he should have been a top 10 pick, Carter should have been a top 10 pick, Tyron Smith could be the best OT we’ve ever had so we could be an LG away from a dominant running game.
It could be… we already have that guy in Arkin, Costa or Nagy… lets see what Callahan does, lets see what Garrett does. I get the feeling we will also have another really good draft. Free Agency is what it is, but the draft and player development is what Garrett excels at.
There`s gonna be some crazy money spent in free agency
Not sure if we can afford crazy, but there will be some good talent to be had for hopefully reasonable dollars.
Dan Koppen, C, Patriots or even Matt Birk, C, Ravens could be good 2 yr pickups that give our younger guys a chance to develop.
William Middleton, CB, Jaguars maybe comes decent price plenty of upside.
JERRY JONES CONTRIBUTION TO THE DRAFT BOARD - EXPOSED!!!!
If you look over Garrett’s left shoulder, you will see Jerry Jones’ contribution to the Dallas Draft Day Big Board. Garrett is explaining to the staff exactly where they will wind up if they follow Jones line of thinking…
by Rome One on Jan 30, 2012 1:31 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
who’s the meat head that JG is looking at? And what is all that chicken scratch? Looks lie a play diagram without any clarity.
by StarloverinWNC on Jan 30, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
no wonder none of the linemen seem to know who to block!
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
It kind of looks like what romo has to do on a drop back pass
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
That would be great if Garrett did that
“OK, Tony, you’ll drop back. Free will likely lose contact with the DE, so step up. About that time Kosier or Costa or both will turn a stunting T into a free runner, so spin left, then move right, then duck under a tackle and move back left. By that time LR’s coverage will have lost interest in covering him and he should be open. That should work.”
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Jan 30, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
that is sig worthy Dunk
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 30, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
haha i luv that gameplan dunk
"Some people wear Superman pajamas, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas. But Chuck Norris wears Sean Lee pajamas. That is all." --sirjason22
"I'm gonna punch you in the ovary, that's what I'm gonna do. A straight shot. Right to the babymaker." --Ron Burgundy
Now that is funny, Rec'd
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
LMFAO!!!
Rome One that’s fantastic lol rec’d
"Some people wear Superman pajamas, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas. But Chuck Norris wears Sean Lee pajamas. That is all." --sirjason22
"I'm gonna punch you in the ovary, that's what I'm gonna do. A straight shot. Right to the babymaker." --Ron Burgundy
I know the Cowboys have been relatively cheap in free agency the past several years
But i think they break the bank this off season for Carl Nicks. And they dont have any other choice but to sign another cb.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
I'm not saying it WON'T happen
But if forced to bet my house, I’d say look to a second-tier OC, with OG help coming from within or via the draft.
I think everyone is looking at this in the wrong way,
we gutted the O-line this last year, it takes the o-line the second longest to devolope behind only QB, Every one is saying what is best to win now, I don’t think we can win now with the O-line being so young, lets face it Dockery, Holland, and Kosier are not going to dominate in this league,, we are counting on some guys to devolpe.
Garrett is thinking past this next year and maybe even the next year beyond that, He’s not going to fix it all this year, but this team is going to get better and younger each year and that is the beauty of it.
30year old players are going to be baind aids, not guys we are counting on to win.
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
unfortunaly I think he might be,
I believe Garretts plan exceeds Romo’s time here,
The sad thing is this team is going to be really good in two or three years, if they continue to draft like the last two years,
by Musiccitynorm on Jan 30, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Remember after Troy retired, think we'll have a 6-7 year merry-go-round of QBs after Romo's gone?
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
That's not a good idea.
Romo’s got at least a 3-4yr window of viability dontcha think? We’re not THAT far away either. 2 Off-seasons is all it would take if you made good decisions and had some decent ‘luck’.
by StarloverinWNC on Jan 30, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Agree wholeheartedly.
The BIG gamble with the current plan is that we are hoping/chancing that one of these guys (Kowalski, Arkin, Nagy, & Costa/Parnell) is going to develop into an above avg starter.
Not sure what history indicates but the highest drafted player on that list is a 4th rounder. What are the odds of developing more than one into a starter in 2-3yrs??? probably not good. You either need to draft high a la Tron or get lucky as hell.
And that’s why I think the impetus must be at the very minimum to draft &/or sign a top-end FA Guard/Center THIS season. Someone who can come in a start EFFECTIVELY Day One.
by StarloverinWNC on Jan 30, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
really stupid if that is his plan
because Jerruh will not be that patient
And what kind of season can you have with your starting QB in traction?
Especially US
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 31, 2012 7:03 AM CST up reply actions
I was thinking that we are going to need a veteran back up middle linebacker
that step in and play at anytime. How about bringing back Kevin Burnett? I think it makes a ton of sence. Lee and Carter are both going to have to prove they can stay healthy. What was the biggest problem when we lost Lee for anytime last year? Coverage in the middle of the field. Burnett could step in and not miss a beat. He also plays special teams. And I don’t think he’s going to cost much.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
Would love to see Burnett back
But I think it would take the jaws of life to get Miami to give him up. They have him through 2015 on a $21 mil contract. He had a great couple of seasons.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
sometimes process is a selling point to landing a big time FA
Mario Williams would be very helpful but he’s not Reggie White. Reggie was averaging 2 sacks a game when he went to Green Bay. I think something like a good center and a good DE and cheap QB are the main FAs.
check out my bands nanoSMASH and Day vs Night
Mario and Ware
I don’t care about the QB
We lose Romo and the season is finished.
We ought not play for 9-7 or 10 -6
Get Mario
Go for the Superbowl.
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Great article Rabble
I read your “tapping the breaks” as keeping Jerry away from expensive, shiny, toys. If the team is going to be successful AT ALL it needs to acquire dominance in the trenches. ESPN is currently running 30 min. versions of all SB’s including 92’, 93’ and 95". Watch and marvel. Those lines, both O and D, should be the examples to attempt to acquire. Priority One. Money spent in achieving that goal, is money Best spent.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Sorry, the NFL channel, BSPN.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
I'll get it right. the NFL channel, NOT BSPN.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
1 Name to wreck your whole mature FA theory
Julius Peppers. Players like Julius Peppers are out there and they are worth every cent. The idea that FA is full of overpriced rejects isn’t correct.
I think we missed out on that type with Nnamdi and I’d bet Jerry does too. I think the Cowboys will continue to pursue the possibility of those types.
Mario is younger than Peppers when Peppers left
by Jonathan Stern on Jan 30, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
how come no one is talking about Evan Mathis?
ProFootballFocus rated him slightly higher than Carl Nicks. He signed on the cheap for a one year contract with the Eagles and will again be a free agent.
PFF is a joke
they think penalties with no consequence is basically the same as a turnover
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 31, 2012 7:15 AM CST up reply actions
DC
If you can re-read the title of the article – it’s to SLOW DOWN in terms of signing big names.
I have a question . . . how can the fans of the Dallas Cowboys better understand that signing big names is a strategy that should be reserved for when a team is 1 or 2 players away from the SB. And even then, signing big names is risky.
Everyone posting should stop, scroll back up and READ the POST. It’s to NOT sign a big name!
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 30, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
So...
We can’t sign Brees, Nicks, Porter and Willams? … Mannnnn
by BrickTop on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't know if anyone has said this but... I don't see us drafting CB, FS or OL in the 1st
unless we trade down… there are a lot of bad corners that will go. I see us trading up for Coples or Claiborne but that’s wishful thinking. Most likely we come out of it with an OLB – even if we have to trade up to get Ingram or Upshaw.
OG seems like a good bet for the 2nd round and there’s a good change we go after another WR early. I think Scandrick and Jenkins would benefit more by a CB UFA signing anyway, more than a rookie unless its a Claiborne.
Not Ingram: please!
He was God-Awful in the Senior Bowl. Now, if we want to draft whoever the OL was blocking him, I am all for it.
If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned. ~Ayatollah Khomeini~
And further, do not trade up.
Get all the good players you can in the top four rounds. Reach for the Ratliffs and Lissemores. Avoid the Mickens.
Above all, do not trade your first rounder…and others….sigh….for some one else’s scrub “star”.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
We must sign Calais Campbell as he is a stud
Other signees should be Chris Myers at C, Terrell Thomas at CB, and Richard Marshall at CB (he can also play safety in a pinch)
by NUHuskyCowboyMinutemanCeltic on Jan 30, 2012 3:39 PM CST reply actions
draft Dontari Poe, Jonathan Massaquoi, and Vontaze Burfict
BOOM superbowl
by NUHuskyCowboyMinutemanCeltic on Jan 30, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Zona will not let Campbell go
just ain’t going to happen
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 31, 2012 7:17 AM CST up reply actions
1 year wonders
I worry about one year wonders like Calais. It would be a nice signing and it would free up our draft picks for another position… But, will he play as hard after getting the $$$?
They Don't NEED
Nicks OR DeCastro! They are OG’s NOT CENTERS! If they pick up a good CENTER in F/A OR a pass rusher (like Mincey from the Jags) OR a top notch DB (like Landry from the ‘Skins) I’ll be elated and HOPE that they can fill their other NEEDS in the draft!
Uh, Nuhusky while you’re right(in a way) where are they ggoing to get the OTHER 1st round pick?) As both Poe and Burflect are projected as first rounders. But IF they don’t get Mincey in F/A I’d LOVE to see them draft Massquoi (should be able to get him in the second or third round and use the first round or two on DB’s!)
GO COWBOYS! GET SOME BIG D! AH-OOO-AH!
Burfict is actually a projected 2nd rounder due to character issues
he could also possibly slide to the 3rd. Would be a steal either way
by NUHuskyCowboyMinutemanCeltic on Jan 30, 2012 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
we need top guards and a top center
if we truly want to be a dynasty again
going cheap on the O line puts Romo in the morgue
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 31, 2012 7:18 AM CST up reply actions
I could see Jerry overpaying for Mario Williams.
Any front, be it 3-4 or 4-3 with Mario Williams, Jay Ratliff and DeMarcus Ware would be tough to block. I remember a reporter asking Jerry if he would have taken Reggie Bush or Mario Williams if Dallas had the first overall pick, and Jones replied that Mario was on top of their board. That was under Parcells when Dallas was playing a 3-4.
Thinking about a front four consisting of Ware, Williams, and Ratliff in nickel or dime packages is a little exciting. To me, however, the idea of becoming a hybrid 4-3 / 3-4 defense is exhilerating, as Mario could go back to playing defensive end in the 4-3, Ware would not be subjected to the every down beating a 4-3 defensive end endures, and Ratliff could offset in the hole between the guard and the tackle as a penetrating defensive tackle.
Rob Ryan ran this style of defense in Oakland, and given his personality, I could see Jerry easily closing a huge blockbuster deal for Mario Williams. Lissemore and Brent could probably handle the other defensive tackle position. Sean Lee could roam as a middle linebacker or play the Sam linebacker. Carter is perfectly suited for the Will linebacker.
In addition, remember that Jerry is less than a year removed from almost snagging Nnamdi in free agency. Mario is only in his mid 20’s and this will be his biggest contract, so he will go where the money is.
I would not be opposed to Jones purchasing a proven polypositional pressure player like Mario Williams.
dude, you just said polypositional
by FindamonsterforDline on Jan 30, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Or a midget
I guess I should say “little person” to be politically correct…but every good story HAS to have one.
by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 30, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Dread the Free Agent Fairy whispering...
… Shiny Toys in JJ’s ear.
Curse’s 16. 17’s on deck.
That's one small step...
by tanstaafl on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They should look for connections with the new coaches
Dallss went for Nnamdi because Rob was his DC in Oakland. He had worked directly with him and knew he would be a good pick-up.
What free agents do Callahan, Ryan, and Henderson have ties with? They’ll be able to better evaluate the talent of the free agents if the coaches have worked with them in the past. It would be less risky and the players would probably come cheaper also.
by bitterlyhonest on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Still The NEED
on the Oline is at the Center spot. IF they are going after somebody for that then Hardiwick seems like the guy they’d focus on.
GO COWBOYS! GET SOME BIG D! AH-OOO-AH!
BOTH center and guard
Arkin MIGHT make a good guard in a year or two. Killa MIGHT make a good center.
We willing to risk another year like Romo had just to save a few bucks?
by burmafrd1944 on Jan 31, 2012 7:21 AM CST up reply actions
Sound free agency theory?
Dallas has over the last few years done exactly what the article has aspired to on free agents. But I ask, who has taken over for those vets like Kosier, Holland, Elam, or any of them the last 5 years. Really none that have made any difference.
Now we can blame lousy drafting or bad luck but filling the roster with JAGs in hopes of a younger guy playing better or taking over just hasn’t worked. In free agency this year, we have some $20 million or more to spend and we have a number of holes – LG, OC, RG, DE, DE, NT, OLB, CB, CB, FS – at least ten that need to be filled with quality not JAG if we are to be more than an 8-8 club.
Can someone like Arkin become the next great RG or LG like Larry Allen, sure but we haven’t seen him a lick so who really knows. Do we have any DE on the roster that you would say is going to be great? Maybe Ratliff if we move him to DE then we need a NT that can actually be a NT with strength and weight to hold up. What about the center position, does anyone actually believe that Costa or Kowalski are really the answer? No scout believes it. In fact among the scouts our interior line is ranked the worst of any team. Makes me feel real good about 2012 doesn’t it.
Now, don’t just go out and sign big name free agents because that doesn’t work because most of the time Jerry signed guys past their prime, but signing Nicks would will be 27 when the season starts and is considered the best LG in football isn’t a guy past his prime. Signing a Brandon Carr who will be 26 at the start of theseason isn’t past his prime (Newman was 26 when we drafted him). Mario Williams will be 27 when the season starts, two years younger than Ware. Calais Campbell DE will be 25 when the season starts. Get my drift.
Now we probably do need some JAG because you really can’t fill all the positions we need with quality free agents and the draft. But signing one or two or three of them sure would be a great start to a better team instead of hoping that sixth round choice becomes the next Tom Brady. Odds are that sixth round choice will be JAG.
But hey, if everyone is happy with 8-8 and losing the last game of the season, well I’m happy for you. But me, I have higher expectations and that means doing what you need to do to get better.
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