The First Cuts, Dallas Cowboys 2012
by Tom Ryle on Jan 7, 2012 11:00 AM CST
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PrintThis is kind of a blast from the past thing for me. You see, back when I was seized with an uncontrollable urge to start writing endless posts about the Dallas Cowboys, one of my favorite ones was called The first cut is the deepest. It was not the most widely read or commented FanPost I did in the days I went by Pineywoods, and it only garnered one rec. But I was almost exactly right in my call for Roy Williams to be cut on day one, just missing nailing it completely by his being the third name cut, rather than number one with a bullet.
I just took a run at prioritizing the draft needs of the Cowboys. And with OCC's post about RKGs and KD's way too premature draft post, I got to thinking about what the first step really needs to be for the Cowboys.
The draft starts April 26th. Free agency and the trading window open on March 13th. Before either of those take place, Dallas needs to start thinking about who needs to go from the current roster. So I thought I would put up my list and see what kind of feedback I could stir up.
My nominees for former Dallas Cowboy post-jump.
I'm not going to go through the whole roster name by name like I did in my draft post. If you need to go over the players currently on the roster, here is the full list from the mothership for you to review.
Instead of looking at everyone, I am just going to list those players that I think should be gone before free agency even opens up. I realize that the team may not address the issue that way. As a matter of fact, I don't know all the rules on when they can cut people and when they can't, and how the whole roster/salary cap issue works during the off season. I am just going to name the players that I think are definite cuts, that just don't seem to have anything left to contribute. And then I am going to talk about a few that a lot of people think should be gone, and why I did not put them on the "definitely outta here" list.
My Cuts (alphabetically):
Alan Ball. I think this experiment has run its course. In a sense, this is a bit risky, because he is not the only cornerback that is on the list, so the draft and free agency/trading is going to have to fill several holes. But the eyeball test, both mine and several others' here, just say that he is not able to handle the job.
Keith Brooking. It is just time. He can't move fast enough. He deserves a lot of credit for his effort and spirit, and I would not mind seeing him on the sidelines in a coaching capacity some day, but it's time to have a really nice going away party for him.
David Buehler. It has been a long time since we griped and moaned about him taking up a roster spot just to kick the ball off. If he is kept on the team, many of us will be doing it again.
Abram Elam. This one is a little hard. He came in and really helped early in the season, but seemed to just fade as the year went on. Safety is even more scary than cornerback, because the pool of available talent does not seem as large out there.
Bradie James. Everything nice I just said about Brooking, only doubled. Or maybe tripled.
Jon Kitna. He has basically volunteered to go, and there is no reason to dispute him.
Mat McBriar. This one really sucks in my opinion. But given the nature of his injury, I just think he is not likely to ever be the weapon he was.
Sammy Morris. He was a desperation stop gap move. So long, and thanks for the fish carries.
Terence Newman. He just was used up by the end of the year. A big salary with some salary cap costs - but then the tean cut RW, didn't they?
Kevin Ogletree. It's finally time to free the Tree, although I don't think that was the original way that was meant. Of all the wide receivers on the roster, he just seems to be the one that has no more upside. The rest of the players on the roster can fight it out to make the 2012 roster (and hopefully Laurent Robinson will be one of them), but KO should not be in the mix.
Frank Walker. I told you it would be scary at cornerback. I'll say it again: No more older, slower guys back here.
Chauncey Washington. Same as Sammy Morris, basically.
That is the list of people that I think do not have any future with the team, and that need to be moved on out. I do not think they even are worth keeping around to compete for a slot. Sometimes, you need to clear the way for new talent to come in.
There are some names that others would have on the list, but that I think should kept with the team until they are beaten out of a slot, or in some cases, they move on to another team through free agency.
Martellus Bennett. Next to Alan Ball, perhaps the most disliked player on the team. But he seems to bring something to the table (like blocking) that the coaches really like, and unlike some of the players listed above, he did show improvement in the latter part of the season, particularly in catching passes. I do think there is a maximum value he has for the team, but I figure he will either sign with the Cowboys for an amount they think is affordable, or he will sign for more somewhere else.
Derrick Dockery/Montrae Holland/Kyle Kosier. I think at least one of these guys, and maybe all three, will not be on the squad at the start of the season - but given the state of the offensive line, and the uncertainty about the other OL personnel, they all should be given a chance to heal and see if they are better than the competition. I don't think any of them were great, but none of them totally sucked, either.
Anthony Spencer. Much like Bennett, I think that he brings something to the table that the coaches like. I do not see him being cut until the team clearly has a better option, and then he may stay with the team over Alex Albright or even Victor Butler. This is one case where I think we don't always know what the coaches know, or expect.
That's the way I would approach it. This is not to say that many others will not fall by the wayside as OTAs and minicamps come along, and as new players are brought in. But right now, I think it is time to start moving some deadwood out, to open up room for new growth - and maybe send a message. Again.
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Brooking
Isn’t Keith Brooking out of contract? I am sure he was signed for 3 years in 2009 and has now done 3 years, I think he will retire but I agree he would be invaluable as maybe an assistant coach for LB looking after the ILB.
Yeah, i think Tom is using "Cut" in the opportunity cost sense of the word too, as in not bringing guys back
Both James and Brooking are free agents. Their combined 2011 salaries were $5.5 million. Please just let them go.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 7, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
I Like the list .
It would be nice to know the dead money and cap space these cuts bring. Then we would have a better handle on what we could spend in FA. Since there is a rookie salary scale, this should be much easier to estimate.
I too have mixed emotions with Spencer, Holland, Butler and while I really admire Kosier, I think he’s pretty much done.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
I looked, but couldn't find the cap cost for 2012, just for 2011.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
C.O.O. Stephen Jones says they'll make sure to sign the players they want,
regardless of current cap situation—according to an interview on ‘The Jason Garrett Show’ today. (The cap is ‘a moving target’, he said, based on how they structure contracts.) He admitted that’s not a long-term best practice, but he seemed positive they’ll re-sign Laurent Robinson.
He also clarified the Cowboys’ drafting/free agency priorities: 1) secondary, and 2) offensive line. He said the best way to take care of team needs is through the draft (and of course, finding those special undrafted free agents).
By the way, thanks for the post. I agree with all of your ‘cuts’—and though it might be an emotional decision, I’d cut Martellus Bennett outright, without giving him another chance. I’ve had a low opinion of him since I saw video of him in practice. Seemed lazy, uncoachable. What do you think of Phillips instead?
Heresy, but I might give TNew another season
if we can get his price down. He lost a step and resorted to awful technique at times, but he had pretty decent stats this season. Who replaces him?
finnegan, grimes, but his cap hold has to go
i feel they clear his cap let Scandrick and jenkins start
and then let everyone else on D walk and hopefully do something like:
Tyvon branch
Calais Campbell
Jarret Johnson
Gary Guyton or Erik Walden(wait what?)
the other good thing about building this roster is that age really doesnt matter since the the teams three best players are well up in their years
so if they were able to get London Fletcher and Marcus Trufant as well it would still be a bonus.
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
a lot of guys on the list were players that are URFAs
so they won’t be cut, just not re signed.
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Like BED said above, I used the term cut to include not resigning them.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Agree with all of these moves
I would add Campo and DeCamillis
Special teams has been anything but special except for the Dan Bailey find.
The real question is will JJ get over his delusions of grandeur and accept reality about this team and the weak links on the coaching staff and be bold enough to get rid of them?
by TomLandryFan on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Weak links on the coaching staff? Hmmmm.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
Yeah, I think Kevin Ogletree is overlooked here
Cut that man. He had his chance, now he’s just a progress stopper.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 7, 2012 11:14 AM CST reply actions
He to me is more irritating than anyone on the team, even Ball.
At least Ball tries, Tree is an utter waste of talent.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
thats why I dont completely hate Ball
you see me bash Spencer and Bennett, but I don’t think they try as hard as Ball does
Ball gives it everything he has, he just isn’t that good
but he damn tries and I respect that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
he is a spaz and not a very good player
I never said he was good, but he tries hard
the effort is always there
look around, and you will not see the same effort in some other players
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
and so did Sensabaugh..........
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure they can cut all of those people and still field a team next year, but
they’re all probably good choices. I have to wonder if Elam will go, though.
You don't think that the replacements could play any better?
We’ve already seen some of them this year.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
I am definitely in favor of "cutting" Campo.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
i agree
Our corners are not coached to look for the ball
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 7, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
...coached to look for the ball..???
…last time that I checked, that was coached in Pop Warner fundamentals. Try this…“not coached to be motivated and have the heart of a champion!!”
So was how to cover up a fumble, but we can't seem to do that either.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
who is the best fantasy players for the playoffs .....
brees, rodgers, brady ……
ray rice, frank gore, sproals,…….
jordy nelson,wes welker, williams, cruz……
J, Graham, gronkowski, packers TE ?…..
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Romo....ah wait , nevermind.
I would go with Rodgers or Breese bcause I think both will at least play in the NFC Championship. Brees you could actually use this weekend. At Rb Rice is the best of those I believe but he isn’t playing this weekend. Graham will also be playing this weekend.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Brees, Rice, Sproles, Jordy, Cruz, Graham, Gronk
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
you think giants will go far into playoffs? ( fantasy playoff challenge...NFL.com )
atm in my FF playoffs….
Brees, Ray Rice, Frank Gore, Wes Welker, Jordy Nelson , Jimmie Graham, Mason crosby-k, Ravens def. .
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
the Giants or Saints are winning the Super Bowl
this Giants team is better than it was in 07
they are a dangerous team
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Saints in GB, I give them no chance.
They don’t play good outdoors. Giants lose in round 2, if not 1.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
They were 3-2 outdoors this year
and only lost by 8 points to GB the first game. I wouldn’t say no chance.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Not this week
Atlanta is TERRIBLE away from Atlanta.
by jtgreet02 on Jan 7, 2012 6:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And Eli has a horseshoe stuck up his arse.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
I hate to finally say it,
although he has been quite lucky on a couple choice completions, Eli is playing like a Champion. Give respect where it’s due. = /
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Same goes for Romo.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Brees.
He gets double the points each time he advances. I see Green Bay vs. New Orleans NFC Title game and if you have Brees there his point triple. Rodgers’ doubles.
but Rodgers would triple in the SB tho
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
passwrd ?
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
blocking TEs are a dime a dozen & even if they keep Bennett they need to bring another one to catch passes
seeing what the Saints, Patriots, Packers & even the Falcons are doing at TE only makes sense to find one for a HC that loves 2 TE sets.
no defenses respects Bennett in 2 TE sets & even if his job is just blocking it doesn’t help not atleast having legit threat opposite of Witten.
find a big fast TE that can catch is a must for this offense.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
with the trend of people playing football over basketball theres more of these power forwards entering the NFL draft.
to bad bc Bennett fits the mold but he lacks the brains & natural ability to catch passes. the reason they only ask Bennett to block is he’s dumb to figure the rest out.
i also dont see him being the RKG with his ignorant videos & all the time he spends trying to be a internet star.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
The reason they
don’t ask him to catch more balls is because of Miles, Dez, Witten, and Laurent Robinson. The concept of the Two Tight End Set is so that there is no strong side in the offense and so that the seam between the safties is always under attack against a cover two defensive scheme. None of this has anything to do with Bennett being dumb.
lol
go back and read what they said about this kid when he was drafted
he was drafted to be another part of the offense, a receiving threat
I never once heard the Cowboys say, oh man we drafted this kid because of his blocking
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
and I still think he can be a threat receiving
he is never going to get Witten… and even Robinson’s numbers being behind at least 4 different pass catchers and a stud horse RB in Murray, but he is a valuable blocker and can get a TE screen from time to time and maybe a back of the end zone throw.. he has some value to us but, he will most likely leave because of all the reasons stated above
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 7, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
You can't be a
receiving threat if they throw you 1+ ball a game. It ain’t gonna happen.
are you his brother?
because you are nuts if you think he deserves any targets
you know what he does with his opportunities? he drops them or he muffs them and then they get picked off
his drop rate is horrendous
he doesn’t deserve chances, when your time is called you step up, he didn’t
another total bust
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Aren't we all really brothers?
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
No, I'm not
his brother. I will refer you to the same article as Seanrude here. http://www.footballtimes.org/Article.asp?ID=218 If you recall, the Cowboys tight ends when Bennett was drafted were Fasano and Tony Curtis and neither are with the team any longer so Bennett has to be an upgrade by default. Btw, his “drop rate” as you call it is better than both Miles and Dez. Go figure.
neither are with the team any longer so Bennett has to be an upgrade by default.
This is simply untrue. Bennett does not have to be an upgrade by default, unless you believe in the infallibility of Jerry Jones when it comes to football decisions. I do not do. Do you?
Is Jason Garrett an upgrade over Sean Payton by default? After all Sean Payton is no longer with the team.
Besides, Fasano has played well in Miami, at least as well as Marty B has in Dallas. Go ahead and make the argument that Bennett is an upgrade, but stop with this by default nonsense. That is some weak coffee.
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Obviously you did not
read the article so there is no way to discuss this topic with you intelligently and that is unfortunate.
I did not do what? Accept your proposition that because Bennet is here and Fasano is not Bennest is an upgrade by default?
You got me there. I do not accept that Bennett is better by default.
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
When I wrote
my response above, I had not yet scrolled down and saw that you said you at least scanned the article. Therefore, I stand corrected and apologize. As for the default statement, I believe I said Bennett was an “upgrade” not better than Fasano. I meant that in the sense of blocking which is also essential in the two/three tight end concept. I should have been more specific there.
pull up his drop rate
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
13.41 percent, 2008-2010
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/25/drop-percentage-tight-ends/
cannot find this years, but it would make that number even higher
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
I watched him in college
he was the same kind of player, lots of physical upside but lost concentration at critical moments. Just don’t think he is that disciplined a player. I think he got the message from someone (Witten) midyear and picked it up. Remains to be seen whether it carries over into the offseason and training camp. But if he falls back into the old pattern — let him go.
I don't know
who the “they” are that you are referring to but I do know what Jerry Jones said on November 11, 2011 and you can read it here.http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/11/cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-te-m.html In that clip he specifically states that Bennett’s worth to the team is as a blocker and that “he could be a tackle” and that “he is important to what we want to do.” Further evidence can be found on Bennett’s Wikipedia page where Jerry Jones is quoted as saying “…we didn’t draft Bennett because we needed a back up tight end.” He was drafted to “…add a new dimension to our offense the two tight end set.” You can’t find one quote (from Jerry Jones at least) that says the Cowboys drafted Bennett to be the next Tony Gonzalez or a receiving threat. They drafted him because of the scheme they wanted to run.
I would be very interested to see who the “they” are you are referring to that said Bennett was going to be this dynamic receiving threat. I bet you can’t do it.
by jevans1729 on Jan 7, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
When he was drafted, there was lots of talk about Marty B being a nightmare matchup in the red zone due to his athleticism and leaping ability. That has not panned out at all
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Would you not
agree that they must throw the ball to him in the red zone for that to occur? When there was the talk about his athleticism etc. I do believe every time the word “potential” was used. The fact is the guy got targeted 25 times this season. You can’t throw a player one pass a game and then say it didn’t pan out.
because he drops the ball or its intercepted
thats why we dont throw him the ball
he is worthless in the passing game
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Just out of curiousity, do you have any connection to Texas A&M?
Bennett doesn’t get thrown to because he has consistently shown an inability to run the right routes and when by chance he is in the right place the ball bounces off his hands. He is not a threat in the receiving game. If he had the crazy athleticism that he was purported to have, I think Garrett would find a way to get him the ball.
I appreciate his blocking skills, but that is not what he was drafted for. Do you really believe that when Jerry said Marty B was drafted to "add a new dimension to our offense the two tight end set" he was talking about bocking and blocking only? I don’t.
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
I believe that
when Jerry said “Add a new dimension…….” he was talking about scheming for his offense as is outlined in this article. http://www.footballtimes.org/Article.asp?ID=218 I believe you will note that the author specifically names the Cowboys as one of the teams taking this direction. I do not think Jerry was talking about “blocking only.” I believe if you read the article you will appreciate the scheme options presented and I believe that was what drove the pick. Btw, I have no affiliation with A&M.
I skimmed the article quickly, will read in depth later, but my initial reading leads me to conclude that in the multiple TE sets, pass catching and route running is mighty important
I concede that Marty B is great blocking, but route running and hands are not his strong suits. I think that makes him less useful in the mutli-TE sets.
But again, I did not read the article closely, and will check back after I do.
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
You are absolutely correct
in your analysis that pass catching and route running is mighty important. However, the mismatches that are created is at the heart of the two/three tight end concept. All I am trying to get at here is that my belief is that Jerry Jones thinking in drafting Bennett was more toward the offensive schemes he wanted to run versus the myopic view that every guy who played basketball is supposed to end up being Antonio Gates. Thanks for reading the article. I knew my homeboys wouldn’t let me down.
hmmm add a new dimension to our offense means blocking tight end
awesome just swell
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 8, 2012 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
So whose targets
are going to be reduced when the Cowboys get this new TE? Witten, Dez, Miles, Laurent Robinson’s? There is only one ball.
I can't disagree with any of those names,
we need a major clearout , coaches as well imo.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
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A Douglas Adams reference. The guys on this blog use the best literary references, I swear.
So long, and thanks for thefishcarries
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cant beat a RB that brings fish lol.
i think Morris did well as a 3rd down back & i would like to see a small speedy back that can block if needed.
David Wilson from VT would be a great 3rd down back or even a L.James typr of player.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
David Wilson is too rich for our blood, a legit top 40 pick
Lamichael James would be perfect for us
we need a Sproles type RB if Felix cannot do that
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Next year
Too many holes this year and we still have Felix under contract.
You can get a Sproles type RB in 2013 and have him produce immediately.
This team won’t be a legit championship contender until 2013 anyway.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
They're not completely fungible.
If LaMichael James is a there in the 4th round I say snatch him up and cut Felix to save some cap space. The team can be ready more quickly than you think. Contrary to popular opinion every team in the NFL has several giant gaping holes on their roster. If Dallas can just have the fewest fatal flaws they’ll be fine. Some OL help and a corner that isn’t absolute dogsh*t ro replace Newman would go a long way. I really don’t think trying to fill every hole on this team is worth passing up on James. He was super productive in college and despite his productivity he’s not very high on draft boards. Sounds kinda like a Murray situation even though they’re completely different backs. He’ll also instantly improve the special teams and allow Dez to be just a WR. Sounds like something pretty good to me.
Are you referring to Felix?
Well because he’s a habitual underachiever, and prior to the last five or six games of the season I was ready to see him gone at the end of his contract too. His vision is awful and now that Murray has emerged as the “feature back” Felix’s value is even less than it was before. I really like LaMichael James, very productive at Oregon, not a whole lot of mileage on him, great speed, and he can contribute on special teams. If you can get him I don’t see the need for Felix.
Go rewatch the games after Murry went out and Felix actually had our FB blocking for him also.
He did very well.
Here is OCC’s report on Felix after the Buc’s game.
Felix Jones (43/73, +2.9). While Jones had the fumble that resulted in a TD, he ran very well. According to PFF, Jones forced six missed tackles, and picked up 83 of his 108 yards after contact, a stat that may come as a surprise to many fans. Felix Jones was a tough runner on Saturday. Jones had just two 100-yard games prior to this season, but added three more this year, with the last two coming in consecutive games against the Giants and Buccaneers.
Yeah thats true too.
He did do quite a bit better in the last few games…but there’s several problems with that line of thinking. One, you’re under the assumption “A lead blocking FB is key to a successful running game” and then saying “Felix improved with Fiametta!” which is confirmation bias. So while it’s possible that Fiametta did help quite a bit, I’m also not ruling out the possibility that he just had a few good games.
Imagine if Spencer had that big strip sack against Washington towards the end of the season? Think we’d all be so eager to see him go? Of course not. The last thing we saw of Felix was him having several good games at the end of the season. Now we can tell ourselves that it was Fiametta blocking for him combined with better OL play that allowed him to have this success, or we can look at the rest of his career and realize that it was probably just a few outlying games. Throughout Felix’s career he hasn’t had the vision to find the other holes, nor has he had the durability to last a whole season. A few good games for me isn’t enough for me to look past his whole career. If they can get James in the third or fourth, I’m all for going with him instead of Felix.
Therein lies the problem:
I don’t see James falling to the 4th, and we better not spend a 3rd on a RB. That’s all I’m going to say about that.
But I don’t even like to discuss draft prospects until we have a clearer view of what the roster cuts are going to look like. I never do… I just like reading about the possibilities rather than getting an idea in my head and my hopes up. It only leads to letdown. Sad, confusing letdown.
Let’s just pray the last couple drafts are the start of a trend.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
I usually agree with you Omar, not this time
Why fix what isn’t broken? Plenty to be fixed without messing with RB. I’m definitely a fan of drafting a mid round RB every few years, but I just don’t see it this year. I’ll also agree that Felix’ vision may not be on par with Murray, but still think Felix has the speed and skills to be a great role player type on this offense. Felix was always quick through the holes that the O line rarely opened or around the end, but kept getting hurt. This year he stayed healthy and retained his speed. I still prefer Murray because he finds holes that aren’t there, but I’d use Felix like NO uses Sproles.
by Silverblue on Jan 8, 2012 7:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly I agree...
You talk about the two games after Murray was injured he got 100+ yds in both but what happen the two games after that… Felix got hurt in the Tampa Bay game didn’t play against the Eagles and did not produce against the Giants. So.. I’m sorry but I’m with Omar on this one. IF????
RexP
how about this? we know Felix is bound to get injured
so they must draft him a handcuff
Oakland has the same problem with Mcfadden but since he is such a beast its warranted to pass up year after year to not get a handcuff for him in the 3rd or 4th round
Felix though aside from the first 6 games of his rookie year and the final 7 of this year has underwhelmed or been injured that whole stretch.
with Felix its basically definite of when not if when he breaks down or just underperforms
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
I tend to agree
Felix tends to be better in a Sproles type roll. Let Murray and Tanner hande the between the tackles stuff.
by nospinzonefactor on Jan 7, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
We have our RBs
Murray, Jones (1 more year left), and Tanner
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 7, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Doug Free
Not our LT, could be our RT. Was a big disappointment in 2011.
he is playing out of position
he is a RT, and a really good one
I think Free could be a perennial Pro Bowler at RT
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I also think he had a down year
We’ve seen that his ceiling is great, last year he was great at LT playing against many of the same pass rushers. I would like to think he will bounce back next year (as many players do from season-to-season) and that, combined with a move to RT will make him dominant.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 7, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, agreed here.
Playing out of position, and probably got worse guard play beside him to boot didn’t help either. But guys have bad years, he’s still young and he’s got a better pedigree than one would be lead to believe so I’m leaning towards it was just a bad year.
I've heard rumors here and there throughout the year
that Free is injured. Either that or Kosier is more valuable than we think. I just don’t see any other reason for such a massive drop off. Also with his new contract, woudn’t Free be an awfully expensive RT?
"How 'Bout them Cowboys!"---Jimmy Johnson
"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF
Yeah Norm was saying that too.
As far as the LT/RT distinction. With these new defenses, coordinators are moving pass rushers all over the place, so wherever your weakest pass blocker is that’s who the best pass rusher will usually target, so the LT/RT thing has lost a lot of its meaning. Though, if you’d still want to argue, I’d say that spending money on the OL is a good use of cash. If they draft DeCastro they’d have a cheap left side of the line and they can overpay a bit to make sure that the right side is strong too.
Agree completely
Smith can be an ALL Pro at LT also
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 7, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
#1, Kosier needs to go. He's only going to get older and worse next year. He's been injured too much.
Holland and Dockery are both nice guys to have around as backups as long as they have decent attitudes, gotta keep at least one.
#2, who else wishes we’d kept B McCann? The guy was never going to have another streak of big plays like he did, but he had speed and made plays.
And at least he may have had an upside. They kept Ball and cut him? Stupid. He may be a viable #3 CB some day.
Oh, and he can be a returner if needed! Could we use that?!
Pessimists say the cup is half-empty, while optimists say it's half-full. Well, the real question is, is it a good beer? Realist Larry, 2011
I'm with you Larry
McCann may have limitations as a CB but is he really any more limited than Alan Ball? Plus he would have helped our punt and kickoff returns.
I’m also with you on Kosier pretty much. I’d rather cut him a year too early than a year too late. Draft a guard to start on this team, sign a free agent center, and let Nagy/Arkin/Holland fight for the other starting guard spot. Kosier is too expensive and too old.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Completely agree
McCann was a guy I missed greatly when Newman started to really slow down, and Kosier should be let go, he has been having injuries nearly every year that don’t keep him out but hinder his ability to hold the line.
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 7, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
As for #2 count me in. He woulda been very useful this year. I completely forgot about McCann.
I have selective memory like that.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
TNew. The man flat out quit last year and continued with the quit this year. He abandoned
any semblance of technique. Zero. And I’m not just talking about his coverage. Sure he didn’t care to properly leverage receivers or jam receivers. What I’m talking about is shedding blocks. The loss to Arizona saw a runner sprint down his side of the field while he made a half hearted attempt to shed a block. Really? A corner cannot shed a receiver block?
Twice he was hurdled in the NY game because he didn’t care to properly tackle. Then there were the receiver blocks again. By the final game of the season, just about every team that ran left understood that it was a long game if they could get past contain – TOld just didn’t have the heart to fight past blocks.
Newman didn't quit
at least IMO, he just got slower, he is pretty old in CB years and was a speed corner that relied too heavily on it and now that he has lost some, he is useless
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 7, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
i saw 2 plays in the giants game
Where Tnew wanted no part of tackling hynoski. On one of them he looked like he missed intentionally & gave him the first down.
by woodson28 on Jan 7, 2012 5:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
OT
I suppose but has anyone heard the audio of warren moon dissing Dez Bryant?
by BrickTop on Jan 7, 2012 12:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions
NFL.com news page
moon discusses blackmon and dez
redskins- bought by Snyder, OWNED by THE Cowboys !
Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
Moon is an idiot
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
the last several times i've read cowboys-oriented stuff on that site
they’ve been retarded. on a romo article they mentioned his stats but gave him three or four more interceptions than he had. in that dez/blackmon one you cite, they use last years stats and say he had a down year this year with 45 catches 600 yards etc. it’s like they’re too sloppy to even get something as simple as stats right.
No
Sorry about that man, I don’t know how to post links and stuff like that. I just read an article about it. If you google it itll come up real quick.
by BrickTop on Jan 7, 2012 12:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You can post a link by highlighting the web address at the top of your page and then
copying it and pasting it where you want it to go.
Just not here.
Put it here and it will work.
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Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Yeah, I heard that crap.
I will go so far as to say I understand what he meant, but he didn’t have to take it that far. He was out of line. Does he even know Dez?
Dez is a great kid, IMO. Kids are terrible with money, that doesn’t make them stupid necessarily.
That said, Blackmon isn’t so much a smarter Dez as he is a more humble T.O., imo.
"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey
"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry
Call me crazy but if we don't draft Decastro
We should resign Lumpy to a small 1 or 2 yr deal.
But all of your cuts are no brainers.
by starmesh23 on Jan 7, 2012 12:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I wonder
I’m not sure how well he’ll recover from his torn biceps.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 7, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Even if they draft DeCastro...
To a small deal would be a no brainer. OCC’s right there’s obvious medical concerns too, but assuming he recovers well, he’d be a fine run blocker on the right side. It’s not like he’ll cost enough to make signing him a problem.
Guilty as charged on the "no brainers".
I thought they were all pretty obvious.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
absolutely agree on all of this cuts, it has to be made
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
It sort of depends on your approach
There is a ‘blow it up’ approach where you tear the roster up looking to win in two or three years and the ‘tweaking’ approach.
I personally don’t think there is anything really wrong with Spencer, Elam and Ball. They just aren’t starters. (Maybe Elam is) The team lacks talent. We have all seen it over the past couple years.
The thing is… The team lacks EASY TO FIND talent. Do a quick review of the most difficult positions on a roster to fill. Tackle, Qb, Wideouts, Passrusher are all near or on the top of the list. The most glaring need that is difficult to fill I can see is CB.
So, a little tweaking and a good/great corner and I can see this team doing quite well.
I will give you an example… One year ago everyone hated Sensibaugh. Look how much better Sensi has played when paired with a reasonably competent 2nd safety. (Maybe not great but certainly much better.) I think a lot of these guys can make similar jumps.
MacGruber!
why?
so teams can continue to pick on him?
dude is done
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
Well
We need a 2nd corner… Absolutely… So we draft a guy and get some production from him. Lets call him Sticky McGrabbinballs.
The line up would be-
Sticky/Jenkins/Scandrick
and Newman would be at best 4th corner. If he would take a pay cut commensurate with the position (yeah prolly not sure, but-)…
MacGruber!
I'd rather go with 1 corner and an extra DL
than start Newman another game.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Newman has been on the roster for the last two years
but hasn’t been spotted playing “Cornerback” since 2009.
by Martin79 on Jan 7, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He had a pretty good year, statistically.
I agree: he got hurdled, humiliated, burned, and otherwise abused. But for argument’s sake, he was 6th in tackles, tied for 1st in interceptions and passes defensed. He had our only (defensive) pick-6 this season.
I was disgusted in the Giants game especially, and he’s definitely lost one full step and taken to face-guarding and back-draping (probably as a result), but he’s still a veteran who can produce for another year—until we can get some more DB help.
And be honest, everyone: how many DBs have you seen using the same ‘tackling’ techniques as Newman did? Virtually all of them, when it comes to taking on TE types.
lol sticky
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
No don't say that
NO NEWMAN. Unless you want the opposition to keep getting guaranteed first downs. What is it called? 41 route. Find 41 and run the route at him. He won’t stop anyone.
by IdiotCowboyfan on Jan 7, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
the Cowboys rewarded mediocrity when they gave Sensabaugh that extension
and he repaid them by being awful down the stretch
he will be cut next year
awful decision to sign him in the season
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
exactly, I hope we can find one safety this year, and another one next year
before there was law, there were the Cowboys!!!
I agree
that was the contract that I facepalmed… I wanted to resign Abe and not Gerald
by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 7, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Id rather have Abe
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
All these cuts have to be done
I agree with all the cuts you proposed. It would be interesting to see when this all goes down. I believe that they know what went wrong this year and will trim and cut everything that was holding this team back. It would be nice to see which coaches you think are cut as well. If that is the same term to use lol.
I also wanted to say thank you all the writers of BTB. Even though the season is over for our Cowboys, you still give me something to look forward to and read and be excited about. In fact I think this is the first offseason I am going to follow REALLY closely XD.
by Dezisabeast88 on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
welcome aboard dezis
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Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
and greened
Welcome
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 7, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
We don't need mentors.
We need football players. Get rid of him.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
If you need him to mentor
he can be like an intern coach.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
Not so sure....
Frankly, you should add a few coaching cuts to that list like Campo and Houck. Jerry isn’t serious about winning so most of the guys on your list will probably be on the 53 man roster next year.
by The Dark Knightt on Jan 7, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions
My cuts would be.....
Kosier: Needed him this year due to all the other changes on the OL, but age an infirmity are showing. He needs to be part of year 2 of cuts of older, declining, expensive guys.
Ogletree: Especially if Robinson is back, no need to keep a marginal 4th receiver who adds little to ST’s.
Brookings: Contract is up. See Kosier above.
Newman: Really didn’t think he was that bad first half of the season once he was back from injury, but the last 5 or 6 games were ugly. Big contract, age and showingnlittle at the end of year says it’s time to say goodbye.
Ball: Just not any good.
Buehler: Because we have Bailey. After all the talk about how important touchbacks on kickoffs would be, Bailey averaged over 65 yards on kickoff length (13th), had 33 touchbacks (18th), and coverage team had 5th lowest kickoff return average in the league(21.4 yards). Add in the FG’s and ……………
Coleman: Going to be 33 and is not moving us forward. Much rather have an upgrade here that can help the pass rush and keep Spencer if the price is right.
Morris: No brained. He was a band aid.
On the fence to come back:
Bennett/Spencer: Would like to have these guys, but only at the right price. would be willing to reach more on the price for Spencer than Bennett.
Might go, but probably keep:
Holland/James: Holland’s play was a big bonus once he resigned and I think we need him for another year given the uncertain status of the center of the line, especially if Kosier is
gone. He might then be on the year 3 cuts of older guys next year. Same story with James. We need an upgrade and he is older, but we don’t know what we have yet in Carter and he would serve a purpose for another year.
See ya James.
move Victor Butler over there.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Interesting. Taplin-Ross initially joned the Cowboys as an UDFA last summer but didn’t pass the physical at the beginning of camp – reasons were never disclosed as far as I know.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jan 7, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
it was said he was recovering from his appendix being removed
Bleacher Report wrote about Ross being this awesome signing, I can’t agree but the Cowboys like Ross
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1013548-dallas-cowboys-address-seconday-by-signing-justin-taplin-ross
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
What do you guys think about Frank Walker? I don’t really recall him doing poorly. I realize they aren’t playing the same position really but I think Newman, Ball and Scandrick got ate up far worse than he did this season. He would also be cheap as he is old and has already played for half the teams in the league. I think he has a bad reputation…i know the baltimore guys talk like he is the worst defensive player ever in the nfl but i really didnt see him doing too bad.
Frank Walker just doesn't sound like a good football name.
It sounds like the name of the head custodian at the stadium or something.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
All those guys will definitely NOT be cut prior to FA
And Spencer can’t be cut because he’s a FA…he is either re-signed or not.
In Romo we Trust
And FA is in March this year--for sure--
instead of ‘maybe’ or ‘July’ or ‘whenever’. Something to look forward to.
Dead money
Would someone please define this for me?
Bob Lilly is my favorite Cowboy ever. He dominated and never celebrated.
It is money you can't use as it is already counted towards your cap space from previous years.
Like say we pay Romo a $15 million signing bonus in year 1, his deal is for 5 years. That signing bonus will be counted as $3 million per year for all 5 years against the cap. If you were to cut him after year 3 the cap hit would be year 4 + year 5 combined in year 4. So his cap hit in year 4 would be $6 million of “dead money” you can’t otherwise use for other players.
Thanks, Rena
So it’s COMMITTED money?
Bob Lilly is my favorite Cowboy ever. He dominated and never celebrated.
It is basically already spent money. Here is a link, with a long quote about how it works.
Say, for example, a player wants a seven-year, $60-million contract. Let’s say that the owner decides to give that player an $11-million signing bonus, which is all paid out in the first year but gets factored into the cap as prorated over the course of the seven-year contract ($11-million / 7 years = $1.57-million per year). Most NFL contracts are “back-ended” — most of the base salary is located in the last two or three years of the contract. If we suppose that our player’s contract is structured so that he has a base salary of $2-million the first year, with higher base salaries in the final two years of the contract, the $13-million (base salary + signing bonus) paid out in the first year appears as $3.57-million to the cap! The advantage of signing bonuses for the owner is that he now has more money to spend under the cap. This is how the Washington Redskins ran up a total payroll of $92.41-million in the 2000 season when the cap was $67-million. The advantage for the player is that all signing-bonus money is guaranteed to be paid, whereas an NFL contract is not guaranteed.
There are drawbacks to signing bonuses for the owner, however. Because the bonus is guaranteed to the player, if the player is released, traded or waived, all of the bonus money that was being prorated throughout the length of the contract is accelerated to the present year. So, if our team released its star player after the third year of his contract (before June 1) for whatever reason, the entire remainder of the bonus, almost $6.3-million, will have to count toward the cap the next year (if the team releases the player after June 1, only the yearly $1.57-million will count the next year, and the remainder will count the subsequent year).
Some teams have gotten themselves in trouble using signing bonuses, running up huge portions of cap room taken up by players who haven’t played for them in several years. With so much less money to spend than their rival teams, they have little chance of fielding a very competitive team for that year, as the best free agents usually go where the money is.
can't remember who defined it
but someone suggested “dead money” was TnotsoNews nickname.
There is an awful lot of bodies on that list, deserving or not.
How long to REALISTICALLY upgrade all of them? 3 years minimum.
"Hope is not a strategy" Billy Beane
"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones
if they miss
in order to bounce back in less than two years(to get on 12-13 win level) they have to strike oil with every FA signing and draft pick this year
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
I was in Baghdad before these little B.G.'s was in they daddy-bags.
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jan 8, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
This is a bad list
a lot of those guys are out of contracts, and some others can be resigned for the veterans minimum as insurance in training camp.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
Agree with your list.
Those who say it can’t be done or won’t, forget we cut a really good guy in Gurode. Even after the handwriting was on the wall, Gurode was coaching up his replacement. He was an RKG whose age had caught up with him. Same for James, Brooking, and Newman. I could see value in keeping two of them around to coach the new guys.
Coaches are less obvious as to whether they are doing their job or not. In my time around athletics I’ve watched coaches drill players on what they’re supposed to do and then have them get on the field and look as if it never happened. Only JG will know the answer there, we’re just guessing or judging from the player’s performance. Look at Wade and all the comments of his lack of coaching ability and then look at what the Texans did to Cincinnati this evening.
Those are all the names that everyone has been throwing around.
Haven’t seen or heard McBriar’s name much but he should be on the list. Good list though. Hope it all works that way and we reload for next season.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
If his foot is fully healed then you resign him without question
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Why do you have a baseball quote?
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
I discovered the Astros site here before this one. IF I knew how to change my name on here
I would change it and the quote in a heart beat.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Click on your name, then click on edit profile, then it should be in the signature box.
"Potential is nothing...Performance is everything". Bill Parcells
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Well it allows me to rmove the sig line but not change my name. Thats why I had just
left things the way they were.
You can do two things
A. Start a new Profile. Once you do this you will have the option to “pin” any previous account to your new one. If I am not mistaken this will keep all your Comments, Joined Blogs Etc. under the new name.
B. Send an E-mail to the Powers-that-Be at SBNation(OCC can hook you up there). They can change your name and Allow you to keep every thing.
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 8, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I certainly like the list but too many to
even think about cutting and then fill those spots with quality players. I don’t think Spencer is going anywhere because he does play the run well. Rotating Victor Butler on known passing downs would be more effective if they get Spencer for the right price. Replacing Coleman makes more sense. A.Elam is Rob Ryan’s boy and he’ll be there even though I think they need a Safety in the draft. Kosier will most likely be cut and Holland probably comes back. Don’t forget they have Nagy and he’ll be ready to play. Hopefully Costa learns to block and snap at the same time in the off-season.
Where's McGee? Everyone seems to want to cut him...
TNew hurt us and the media was right all year, we needed new blood in the secondary and we didn’t get it. Our front 7 was better but we need a good off-season and keep those guys around to see what the Bruce Carter impact will be. I hope Brady is back, might be better stopping the run than Carter. I think Brooking will retire but he would be a good “Jon Kitna” for Carter like Jon has worked with Stephen.
Next year will be big for Romo… McGee will be in a great position to take over at QB and we all know what happens to Romo in even years… might be worth getting another QB in the mid-rounds to press McGee because we don’t know how much longer Romo will be around. He had a good run though.
The OL and secondary need to improve and if you move Tyron to LT then its time to get a LG in the early rounds. Hopefully Arkin and Nagy can be starters next year but if not then Kosier and Holland need to stick around. Kosier is slowing down, and he gave up some key sacks this year…
If anything keys will be coaching and maybe add an OC if we can get a Sparano, Haley or Turner… if Norv is the OC I think even Troy would try-out…
Kosier battled plantar fasciitis all season so I think he could go one more season and still
be a good G for us allowing the young guys to develop one more season. I also think the Lumpy should be signed to a two year deal. He can start this season and then the young guys should all be ready to take over completely.
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
McGee is the number two QB.
He knows the system – will not be cut even if they find a QB they think is the future. The team needs to go with three QBs on the roster, anyway.
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
In even season's ????
Please explain what we all know because I don’t know what you are talking about. In 2010 in 6 games he threw for 70% with 11TDs and 7Ints most coming in a single game. If you think thats bad… 2008 He went 8-5 was injured 3 games which I think we would have won had he been available because Brad Johnson couldn’t throw a pass if his life depended on it… passer rating or 91.4 26TDs and 14 INTs … we missed the playoffs because our back-up could not perform. Same would happen with McGee. He is not a good QB … he’s mobile but can’t make the reads down the field. Missed three wide open receivers one that would have been a walk-in TD in the Philli game. McGee could never take over for Romo… lucky he gets to carry the notebook. If Kitna was healthy then he wouldn’t have even got to do that.
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