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Had Rob made his first move to fix the secondary?

The NFL playoffs are up and running. The Houston Texans notched their first playoff win, and the New Orleans Saints gave notice that the Green Bay Packers may not be a shoo in.

But Dallas Cowboys fans are already focused on next season, so here is a look at some news from the past few days about our favorite team.

There is a report out that the Cowboys have signed safety Justin Taplin-Ross out of Utah, possibly to a three year contract. No details, but Rotoworld and other sources are all showing the same information. As KD wrote at the time, he was brought to training camp back in July, but failed his initial physical and was promptly released. It seems he was still recovering from appendix surgery at the time. The Cowboys brought him back in October for a tryout but waited until now to sign him. Check KD's article for his pro day numbers. If he has been signed, it looks like Rob and company are already addressing the secondary issues.

Meanwhile, Jason Garrett has been meeting with some of the assistant coaches.

Cowboys coach Jason Garrett met with some coaches in the last few days to talk about their status with the organization. Several coaches, Dave Campo, Brett Maxie, Skip Peete, Hudson Houck, Wes Phillips and Keith O'Quinn, entered the last year of their contracts.

It isn't known if these coaches were retained by Garrett, but Campo, the secondary coach offered a "no comment" when asked about his status with the team.

Anybody want to try reading between the lines there?

More stuff of possible interest after the jump.

Star-divide

Jerry Jones is also talking about the changes likely to come on the coaching staff.

"We'll give you better answers on that as we go over the next three weeks," owner/general manager Jerry Jones said during a Friday appearance on KRLD-FM, indicating that hires would be made the week of the Jan. 28 Senior Bowl. "That's pretty much the way I'll leave it."

Bill Parcells and Charles Haley are on the list of 17 Hall of Fame finalists.

Sean Lee had a statement about Penn State's hiring of Bill O'Brien to replace Joe Paterno.

"Alumni, current players and students need to rally around him and try to help him be as successful as possible. If you have reservations on whether Coach O'Brien embodies the Penn State tradition, instead of turning our backs on him, we need to embrace him and help him understand the Penn State way. The best thing for Penn State right now is to support Coach O'Brien and that is what I intend to do."

Class act.

Over at the mothership, Mickey Spagnola has an article about not getting too emotional about the way the season ended up. Mickey is an employee of the Cowboys organization, so I am hoping he is correct in this part of his assessment:

And take heart, the Cowboys understand their shortcomings. They know they must improve the back end of their defense. They know they need to find someone to help Ware put pressure on opposing quarterbacks. And they know they need help on the interior of their offensive line. Doing so will vault them forward even more.

Under the heading of "Were you paying attention?" comes this piece about a former coach of ours.

So would Wade Phillips return to a head coaching role for the first time since being fired by the Cowboys midway through the 2010 season? In an interview with NFL.com this week, Phillips said, he believes, he should at least be considered.

Okay.

Pro Football weekly (among others) are saying that flipping Tyron Smith and Doug Free is looking like a done deal.

ESPN Dallas has a poll up on who to keep and who to trash on the team you can vote in. Big shock: Terence Newman is number one on the trash list.

Speaking of ESPN, they list the Cowboys' offensive line struggles as the number one thing that went wrong in 2011.

Looking back it was too much to ask of the Dallas Cowboys offensive line. Protect Tony Romo with three players who never started a NFL game and two rookies. Just too much.

There is an amusing back and forth between a couple of CNN writers over whether the Texans have supplanted the Cowboys or not. The Houston supporter's silly ideas are here, and the obviously correct conclusion that Dallas is still America's Team is here.

NBCDFW has their own take on which free agent Cowboys should stay or go. And if you want to read something that just might set your teeth on edge, they have a decidedly pessimistic look at 5 Things We Learned in 2011.

There's a thought provoking piece at the Dallas Morning News on Jason Witten and how his production was off, especially in the last half of the season.

And finally, here is a cautionary tale to not take sports in general and the Cowboys in particular too seriously (the title pretty much says it all): Drunk Cowboys Fan Attacks Nephew With Frying Pan And Umbrella After Loss To Giants.

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You're up early today, Tom.

Or, this is one of those “pre-posted” stories scheduled to pop up online at a certain time.

Your last story was worse than the stuff I read on here – broken remotes, kicked-in TV screens, etc., from frustrated fans. Our guys take out their frustrations on inanimate objects.

(Hands over crown)... Dude seriously you are the most optimistic Fan in the world……
--by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 17, 2011 4:55 AM CST

by hookerhome on Jan 8, 2012 5:19 AM CST reply actions  

LOL

"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"

by StrosSouth on Jan 8, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Or they work early. :P

I go on the clock at work at 4:45 am. /shudder
I am a night owl and hate getting up pre 4am.

by Rena on Jan 8, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope these are the first 3 things addressed
They know they must improve the back end of their defense. They know they need to find someone to help Ware put pressure on opposing quarterbacks. And they know they need help on the interior of their offensive line.

2 FA and 1st pick or 1FA and 1st two picks

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 8, 2012 7:00 AM CST reply actions  

i hope its 2 fa and 1st round pick

sign Finnegan for the secondary, Carl Nicks for the offensive line, and draft a pass rusher

by Nets2410 on Jan 8, 2012 7:28 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

It is soooo simple and straight forward...

failing to protect the quarterback and you may have to use the backups for the rest of the season but failing to have a better cornerback may cost you points
but with good protection and a good quarterback you can always get ahead or come back and win the game
have you guys not watching Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. Drew Brees etc etc….
Offensive Line Protection is the ultimate priority. Period.
OLine, OLine, OLine, OLine, OLine, OLine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May The Force Be With the 'Boys! Amen!

by sbnles on Jan 9, 2012 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm quite proud of Cowboys fans and media

We aren’t hearing Romo can’t win in December nonsense or terrible Menes about Ware disappearing in big moments or TO locker room stories or Dez saggy pants initiatives.

Instead the media are talking about political power structures and interior line play.

I think there’s something to be said for the football IQ the media is displaying in the wake of this season.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Jan 8, 2012 7:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Well

Theres still quite a bit of people that bring up those subjects all the time. But there will always be ignorant people, so you cant really change that. I’ll read an article about the Cowboys or Dez Bryant and the comments are just incredibly annoying. I think this season highlighted how bad our secondary was so the media laid off Romo. Instead of “choking” it was about not finishing games and giving up leads.

by BrickTop on Jan 8, 2012 8:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

And next season, no matter how bad or good...

We’ll hear those same old talking heads spout off about Romo in December, the Cowboys can’t finish, yada yada, yada. Especially if we happen to be in first place. 90% of America has no clue that Romo has long ago slain that dragon. They will fail to mention that he threw 8 tds and 0 ints in December this year. Or that he amassed those stout numbers in only 3 games. Running their mouths is what they’re paid to do. Gathering and communicating facts is not required. Romo’s real problem is this; will the Cowboys be good enough before he gets old?

We have the goal of winning Super Bowls. If you don't have that, find the door.
Jason Garrett

by White Wolf on Jan 8, 2012 8:37 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Yup

Totally agree. I certainly think it’s capable for Romo to put together at least 2-3 very good seasons so we can put substantial talent at the offensive line and defense.

by BrickTop on Jan 8, 2012 8:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

+9

I’m in Germany this week so I’m going to try that whole “using numbers” thing OCC started here.

Don't believe everything you think.

by dunkman on Jan 8, 2012 10:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It's being said, including on this board, but at least some of the media are definitely focusing

less on Romo (they can see his numbers for this year, too) and more on the real problem areas. Even some of the national media finally get it, too.

by Fernie67 on Jan 8, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Yessir! Rec!

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

love making them green

rec White Wolf

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 8, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly, in some parts of houston,

They don’t even have domninion over their own host city. I still see lots of cowboys gear in h-town this past week I was there for new years weekend and could see at least 40-45% of the people there who had on NFL apparel had cowboys gear. Though the playoff run they are on this year will increase their bandwagon.

I still think that the majority of their fans outside of Houston come from disgruntled former cowboys fans that have left the team since Landry was fired or Jimmy quit (basically the start of the Jerry Jones era).

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Jan 8, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

What’s really funny is they are popular just about anywhere you go. You will see people wearing hats with the star, or bumper stickers, or flags in front of their lawns.

by Aaron Burtram on Jan 8, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

That made my morning.

Ok, 120-120 in fifteen years is pretty mediocre.

by Uncle Angus on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a Dallas fan who never lived in Texas

Never bothered to ever consider the Texans when thinking about football. Never think of them as relevant. Sounds to me much like Panther or Jaguar or Texans fans can make claims that their team matters. But it’s just not true as soon as you leave the home town.

by Eagles suck on Jan 9, 2012 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Good Morning Everyone.

Tom: I think the NBC writer was reading your stuff. That assessment is really close to what you layed out in your post and it seems too rational for a normal sports writer this soon after the season. Normally they still want everyone beheaded.

by oldboysfan on Jan 8, 2012 8:37 AM CST reply actions  

I was actually a little perturbed by that.

I hadn’t seen it, and hope I got my article out first – but I’m afraid to go back and check.

Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos

by Tom Ryle on Jan 8, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

America's Team...

I hear crap about how we’re not America’s team anymore all the time from Steelers fans that I work with. You know, the Texans colors are red, white and blue. I wonder if that’s some sort of subtle jab at our claim of America’s team.

by Mr. Patrick on Jan 8, 2012 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

That is what 1 writer was saying about the Pats.

Their colors and better success rate the last decade should make them America’s Team.

by Rena on Jan 8, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

The Witten article was interesting

The writer hand an interesting analysis, but I found the final paragraph a little odd (bold emphasis min):

At 29, Witten has some incredible career numbers for a tight end. He’s still relatively young and a player the Cowboys can count on for years to come.

I worry that Witten’s a relatively old 29.

The writer notes that Witten’s targets per game for the last eight games dropped 31% from the first eight games, which he attributed JW being bracket covered. Any place to get real data on this? Curious to know if he was double teamed more in 2011, particularly the last 8 games, than years prior.

If true, there is some solace in what looked like a serious drop-off. However, it was oft mentioned that Robinson flourished because Dez was constantly doubled. In a 3-wide w TE set, seems like Miles should have been getting a lot of single coverage, too.

by Lajitas Lava on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Miles missed a lot of playing time. Dez missed some time also and was limited in others.

I would think Witten had more targets with both of those out early in the year and before Robinson took off.

by Rena on Jan 8, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

He averaged 11.5 targets/game for the 1st 4 games.

More to your point:
For first eight games of 2011 his completion% was 63% for 64 targets
For the last eight games it was 74% for 53 targets

Consistent with them forcing the ball to him early in the season when they had fewer options.

He tied his career high for ypc, but his completion% is 5 points lower than it was in 09.

by Lajitas Lava on Jan 8, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

oops

first eight games 70 targets 63% completions
last eight games 47 targets 74% completions

by Lajitas Lava on Jan 8, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Im telling you.

Jason Witten is gonna fall off that cliff in the next 2 years. Its time to liquidate. Watch what I tell you. He’s slowing down. I dont mean look at his numbers. Watch him move. That body is in the beginning stages of breaking down.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't want to "liquidate," but I agree that he looks like he's slowing down. I was watching

a clip from 2009, and he looked so much faster. What I do think is that it’s time to target a TE in the draft in one of the lower rounds, particularly since Bennett may be out.

by Fernie67 on Jan 8, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

I just dont want to wait too long.

Like everyone else I’d love to see him end his HOF career in Dallas, breaking all the TE records. But what I dont want is for him to make it to another contract, Jerry to overpay him, and his play to fall off the cliff shortly after. Not to be heartless, but if someone offered a 2nd round pick for him Id take it, tell John Phillips be ready to start, and never look back.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank the Stars you're not our GM.

You’re out of your mind with this one.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

+82

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I just dont see what the big deal is?

I really dont think every offense needs a Pro Bowl tight end to be successful. Id rather have some chips that can help us improve our O-Line, and a TE who can get us 55 catches a year. The formula we have been using clearly doesnt work. A wealth of skill position talent and an average line wont cut it. Id much rather move Witten or Austin, and use some of those acquired assets to improve the line. I think an upright Romo, and a dominant running game would take us farther. Sometimes I think you can have too many weapons.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Fix the Oline, fine.

Move Witten is absurd, I’m sorry. You just don’t unload a future HOF when he has done nothing but good for your franchise, and still has a lot left in the tank.
Austin you could make a case for because quite frankly, I consider him injury prone.
But Witten is not only Tony Romo’s crutch, but a face of our franchise. He is also under contract until 2017 I believe.
What are you talking about, mannnnnnnn?

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Screw Romo's safety blanket.

Im so tired of hearing that. Who is Tom Brady’s safety blanket? Or Drew Bree’s? Or Aaron Rodgers? Maybe Romo doesnt need a damn crutch, maybe he needs to just make reads, and throw footballs.

And who can say Witten “has a lot left in the tank” if you watch him move around he damn sure doesnt look that way. Something has to move, Witten, Austin, somebody. Its stagnant, somethings gotta shake.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow. Just wow. Mensa, it's not cool to comment under two names at once.

Tom Brady has two elite TE’s now, not sure you want to go there. He also doesn’t need a “safety blanket” as you put it because he has an Oline that, you know, DOES THEIR JOB WELL.
Drew Brees – same boat with the Oline..
If you want to make FAIR comparisons, how about Phillip Rivers. Think they’d make the same snap decision on Gates- who is CLEARLY Rivers’ “safety blanket” due to shoddy Oline play?
Get real. You just tried comparing our offense to, arguably, the three best passing offenses in the game with the deepest WR sets.
Gain some perspective before you speak again, please.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Brady was doing it long before there

were Gronko and Hernandez. Brees was getting it done long before he had Jimmy Graham. And how the hell is Gate’s Rivers’ safety blanket when he is either not on the field, or limping around when he’s out there.

Tom Brady has two elite TE’s now, not sure you want to go there. He also doesn’t need a "safety blanket" as you put it because he has an Oline that, you know, DOES THEIR JOB WELL

Doesnt that prove my point? Id rather put some assets into building a dominant line. I dont care if Romo is throwing to a bunch of nobodies. I think he’s that good of a quarterback.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

So what in the hell does this have to do with Jason Witten???

Get an oline! Keep your HOF TE! End of story!
Btw, that looks to be EXACTLY what JG is attempting to do, don’t you think?
In your reply you still don’t address the fact that you’re comparing apples to truck tires with this Brady, Brees, Rogers talk. Get real.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

And how the hell is Gate’s Rivers’ safety blanket when he is either not on the field, or limping around when he’s out there.

So because he’s injured the last two seasons he’s never on the field?
I guess 2003-2009 doesn’t count. LMAO

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

You're right on, Carl

As always. The Cowboys have the wisdom of Branch Rickey’s maxim completely backwards, so we’re always old and slow. Witten was a terrible blocker this year. I’d take a second rounder for him in an instant.

by kindablue on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Strange how Witten can't move - BUT IS ALWAYS OPEN.

Who cares if you WALK PAST the first down chains – they still move.
Which I suggest you do some of – move on.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

If someone needs to be traded, it's Dez.

I don’t know if he brings a #2, but he’s the only contract that can be moved. He’s not very productive so far, easy to replace.

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by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Are you serious? Not very productive?

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Very

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Unless we trade Dez for first rd pick and take Justin Blackmon

I would never sign off on this. Look at the numbers I posted below, he’s been productive alright. I expect him to put up even better numbers next season.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 8, 2012 11:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

"Dez Bryant hasn't been very productive"

Whatever you’re smoking, I want some. You need to check your facts:

2010: 12 games 45 rec, 561 yrds, 6TDs + 215 return yrds and 2 TDs

2011: 15 games 63 rec, 928 yrds, 9TDS + 103 return yards.

Career: 27 of 32 possible games: 108 receptions, 1489 receiving yrds, 17 total TDS.

You probably would’ve cut Michael Irvin after 1989.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 8, 2012 11:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

No, but I don't think Dez will ever be close to Irvin as a WR.

He was talking about making a trade to help other spots on the team. Austin and Witten’s contracts won’t let that kind of trade happen. I’m not saying trade anyone, but if they do, Dez is the only trade that will work.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I am firmly in the camp of better to trade a year too early than a year too late, but I don't trust the Cowboys' GM to use the picks acquired in such a trade in anything resembling a wise manner

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by Seanrude on Jan 8, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Amen
I am firmly in the camp of better to trade a year too early than a year too late, but I don’t trust the Cowboys’ GM

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Why trade at all?

I guess I don’t understand the need to trade players who have been the cornerstone of your team. Every player gets old and their production decreases. Teams with little CLASS trade their key/elite players instead of letting them retire w/ the franchise they started with.

I see no problem trading players acquired via free agency but Newman, Ware, Witten, Romo, Ratliff, etc. were all drafted by Dallas.

The real issue is that the head coach and GM need a set of balls big enough to tell their previously elite players that they are no longer worthy of starting and will be backups or released.

But trading shows that you have no class – the one thing the Boys have is class.

by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 8, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

How long is he signed through?

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

2017

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Holy cow, I missed that signing.

God I hope he never gets near the end of that deal.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

I’ve got some powerball numbers to hash out…

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Like Gonzalez

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank you.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Different kind of athlete.

Witten was never the athlete Gonzales was.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

That's the best you can do?

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean, the fact that we're forced to compare him to a once-in-a-lifetime talent should tell you all you need to know.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Witten is breaking down. Slow and can’t block worth a damn anymore. At this point in his career he’s a slow wide receiver who runs great routes and falls down the instant someone touches him.

by kindablue on Jan 8, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Why because Witten is white so hes not athletic ?

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 8, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe because Tony Gonzo is one of the most athletic TE's

to ever play the game. Maybe because he was a borderline NBA draft pick as well.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

And Witten is athletic?

Witten is cerebral and Tony is athletic right? Racist stereotypes I can’t stand.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 8, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

isn't*

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 8, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahhh who cares about race.

If you are Green and were born on Mars if you can play I don’t care. Just win. Make the astute moves needed to get out of this mediocrity.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont see whats racist or stereotypical about this

Well I guess everyone in the NFL is pretty athletic right? Tony Gonzo is a rare athlete. Jason Witten is a pretty good athlete. You want me to even it up? Jeremy Shockey is an outstanding athlete, but not the football player Jason Witten is. There ya go. White supremely athletic TE. We good now?

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

yup!

It just irks me I doubt you were thinking it but it was all offseason Lee is cerebral but Carter is athletic

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 8, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it's a race thing

Lee is one of the most cerebral linebackers in the game, but he’s also extremely athletic (he has excellent burst and lateral agility for a linebacker).

Carter? We haven’t seen enough about him to know. We know he’s a fast linebacker and we think he can deliver big hits. I don’t think it’s an either-or proposition—Lee is the headiest linebacker in the game, but he’s also a great athlete.

Bradie James? A very well-rounded player. He’s never been the most athletic linebacker, but in his prime, he was a smart linebacker who worked hard and always got into position.

Carter hasn’t displayed, in college or in extremely limited action in the NFL, that he has the same kind of football smarts that Lee has. And it’s not a race thing—it’s just that Carter is a “redshirt rookie” and Lee has been a once-in-a-lifetime, freak-of-nature player. I think people would be feeling the same way if their races were reversed.

by Admiral Dallas on Jan 8, 2012 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

speaking of atheltic TEs and race

Is Jimmy Graham black or white, I honestly can’t tell.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 9, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I won't argue with this.

But I won’t agree with this sentiment that Witten is “slowing down” based on an eye test.
Dude caught and ran for the second highest completion of his career this year – 64 yarder.
He hasn’t dipped below 64 completions SINCE 2003 – his ROOKIE YEAR.
Need I mention he has played in EVERY GAME since starting in his 9th game of his Rookie year?
I never thought I’d say this, but people need to go back to Romo bashing because that is less annoying than this garbage – not intended for you Fern. Although I don’t necessarily agree nor disagree with your eye test.
Cutting ties with a man based on that, though? I disagree 100%

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

No one said he sucked or is unworthy of a roster spot.

You can a little decline though. A 6 year contract was not smart by Jerry. Those kinds of contracts get you Terrance Newman’s. How did you like his production this year ?

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you know how NFL contracts work?

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Now we're comparing Jason Witten to TNew?

Christ…
And the talk started because someone here wants to “liquidate” JWitt for a second round pick.

Im telling you.
Jason Witten is gonna fall off that cliff in the next 2 years. Its time to liquidate

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

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by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

You just don't unload someone like Jason Witten. PERIOD.

When the time comes, I will GUARANTEE that Jason will do whatever is best for this team – be that restructuring or retiring, because that’s what the man has always been about, the TEAM. No ego to push here. He is the PROTOTYPICAL Dallas Cowboy. He lives for this. He’d rather sacrifice himself than become a detriment. I’d wager my livelihood on that statement.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

LMAO!!

Listen to yourself.

When the time comes, I will GUARANTEE that Jason will do whatever is best for this team – be that restructuring or retiring, because that’s what the man has always been about, the TEAM. No ego to push here. He is the PROTOTYPICAL Dallas Cowboy. He lives for this. He’d rather sacrifice himself than become a detriment. I’d wager my livelihood on that statement.

You sound like you are talking about a God. I know he’s great. He’s an all-time great Cowboy, top 5 TE in the league, and probably a good guy. Im just saying no one on this roster over the age of 23-24 should be considered untradeable. Not Ware, not Romo, not Witten, Not anyone.

U guys and this Witten worship. I like him too but damn.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

You just don't understand, in the NFL you can't trade big vet contracts for high draft choices unless it's a QB.

The draft choices are aren’t paid the big money anymore.

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by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Witten has been great for us, but many fans can’t conceive he ever makes mistakes, like getting several false start and illegal formation penalties each year and missing blocking assignments.

by kindablue on Jan 8, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Or drops, or that occasional lack of effort

on a less than perfect throw that results in a pick.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh OK. I didn't realize that you don't actually watch the games.

This all makes sense now. Carry on…
Drops? Lack of effort?
A career receiving average of 11.4 yards per that spans 9 seasons really points to lack of effort.

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"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention his whole 3 career fumbles lost.

I think his season high in drops was in ‘08 when he had a grand total of 5, btw.
Yeah, he suffers from lack of effort.
Keep digging. Eventually you may hit on something I agree with. I doubt it. But it’s worth a shot

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by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

+82

You’re wasting your time with these fools

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by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Im talking about those half ass attempts at poorly thrown balls

like the interception that went off his foot last year against the Giants. Ball was thrown behind him. Instead of throwing on the breaks, and trying to either catch it or knock it down. He throws back a lazy hand and keeps jogging, ball hits him on the foot and gets picked. Do you watch the games? He’s done crap like that on a few occasions.

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting banter...

Let’s keep it real – there is NO player in ANY sport who has played at ANY time that gives 100% effort at ALL times. I invite anyone to try and name one.

Witten is no different. Yes, he has lapses. Yes, he has made mistakes. No, he isn’t perfect.

But, he IS an elite TE and has been the best offensive player on the Dallas Cowboys for the past 5-8 years. Better than TO. Better than Romo (way better) and better than MBIII, FJ, DM, Dez and Miles. He may not be the best blocking TE in the league, he may not catch the most balls and he may not be the fastest or run the best routes but he IS, without question, in the top 5 of all those categories. And, when you combine all the different aspects TEs have, I think he’s the best TE in the league. Better than Gronkoswki or Coates or Gonzalez or Hernandez or any of the others.

That kind of player, you don’t trade. Dallas has many needs but trading your best offensive player who may be a yr or two past his prime is desparation and shows no class. Those that suggest it are downright foolish and uncouth.

by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 8, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

There are a handful of players who lay it on the line each and every play

not a lot but they do exist and Witten happens to be one of them for sure.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 9, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 9, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, I thank the Star you are not the GM of the Dallas Cowboys.

So let me get your opinion straight:
Let’s trade Jason Witten, despite the fact that we would get (at best) probably a 3rd rounder?
That’s a genius move. Here’s your sign.

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

First off Witten wouldn't bring a 2nd rounder.

Newman has been done for a few years. Yet year after year we are forced to watch him fail because of a dumb contract. If you are fine with that, great for you. I would prefer better production for that money.

If you can’t admit you saw a slight decline in Witten’s skills it doesn’t bother me. Jerry has had that mindset for years and look where we are.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Im not sure what he would net

What did Gonzo go for a couple years ago? A 2 and a 3?

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by Carl Shelton (GloryDayz88) on Jan 8, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Witten, He is the consumate Cowboy.

I am disturbed that Jerry wasted his career. I think at best he would get you a 3rd.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually agree with this.

Not the time horizon I exactly have in mind, but Jason Witten is a really old 29. I too am concerned how many years he has left in the tank (which is part of why I advocated trading him in 2010). I wouldn’t like it a lot, but I could totally see us drafting a TE this year. I hope we wait until a mid-round to do it, but I could get behind it as long as we address other needs with our time in FA and our first couple picks.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Jan 8, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Trading Witten shouldn't be a discussion unless you're picking up a proven interior Olineman and another decent draft pick, and plan on drafting a TE.

Especially with Bennett on the way out.
I don’t see any of that going on, save for Bennett being on the way out.

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"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

After watching the saints

we need to use our first 2 picks on the OL.

the saints have at best an average def. The offense is so good they are never out of a game. Brees is rarely touched and his WR run wild against any defense.

The def makes 1 or 2 plays a game and the saints get ahead early.

OL,OL,CB,DE and sign 1 FA at CB or DE.

How are the pats the number 1 seed with that def?

A great off!!!

by oneforthethumb on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Haley to Cards

Deal rumored close to being done. Link

by Lajitas Lava on Jan 8, 2012 9:30 AM CST reply actions  

i really never like the guy i couldnt figure out why everyone wanted him back here with tony sparano

All Sparano did was recycle dallas trash into their oline Marc Columbo, Corey Procter , mcqustion … all guys that are trash ..

I give those guys jake long but he was a blue chipper other than that Miami qbs stayed hurt and their oline stayed trashy.

by lostar2009 on Jan 8, 2012 10:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Haley is a A$$

that is about all you heard in KC. Weis jumped ship fast; and if he could not stand Haley that says a lot

by burmafrd1944 on Jan 8, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

hehehehe

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I still LOL when I see this

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Me too. I absolutely LOVE this .gif

I’ve had the opportunity to use it twice this week. = )

"No one ever accomplishes anything alone in football. We all like to think that we can, but that's just not true. It's always been a team game, always will be." - Tom Dempsey

"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

defense, defense, defense, blah, blah, blah

if it’s important to improve our pass rush, it’s clearly at least as important to defeat the opponent’s pass rush, but actually moreso. the qb is the linchpin of the team. you dont trade protection of a qb who missed 8 games in the past 2 years, and who played 6 games with cracked ribs and a punctured lung, for a better pass rush. you dont trade protection of the qb to get a better secondary. first and foremost, you MAKE MOVES TO PROTECT THE QB, then you shore up the pass defense and the pass rush. somebody please wake up

by hiredavid61 on Jan 8, 2012 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

Justin Taplin-Ross

is a nice under the radar signing….solid football player with great measurables….I like what Garrett has been doing since last off season…keep it up JG

by BWAREofDWARE94 on Jan 8, 2012 9:46 AM CST reply actions  

Best early christmas present ever!

Toss Dave Campo out.

The Garrett Guillotine demands more blood!
by Blue Eyed Devil on Sep 5, 2011 3:30 PM PDT

If you're going to eat poison, you might as well lick the plate.

by Final Frame on Jan 8, 2012 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

Dave Campo's days may be over

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 8, 2012 10:44 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Thoughts...

But Dallas Cowboys fans are already focused on next season LOL. That’s a Cowboys fan only hope.

Spagnola is a Jerry lackey. If Jerry told Mickey that bulls didn’t have balls Mickey would write about it. Mickey is also a puppet scared to say something negative about Jerry. I have much more respect for Gosslein and Galloway who aren’t afraid to take Jerry to task.

Jerry is incapable of running the Cowboys. See the Texans and Bengals as examples.

Why is being America’s team so important to Dallas fans ? Winning to me is more important.

Changes to the coaching staff won’t matter with Jerry as gm and the team lacking talent.

Ware and his .5 sack away from 20…on a losing team………wasted career in Dallas

Romo is good but I too believe he has peaked.

As Wade would often say after another crushing defeat…“I saw some good thangs” ……well. I saw a team a long ways away from real superbowl contention. Tyron and Lee were young pluses. Ware and Witten, Jerry has betrayed you.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

Scattershooting . . . while wondering

how you can compare an employee of the Dallas Cowboys with local sports columnists.

Spagnola is a Jerry lackey. If Jerry told Mickey that bulls didn’t have balls Mickey would write about it. Mickey is also a puppet scared to say something negative about Jerry. I have much more respect for Gosslein and Galloway who aren’t afraid to take Jerry to task.

You do realize that Gosslein and Galloway aren’t paid by Jerry, right?

Ok, 120-120 in fifteen years is pretty mediocre.

by Uncle Angus on Jan 8, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

+ Galloway loves to stir the pot.

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by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Mickey is a schlep.
You do realize that Gosslein and Galloway aren’t paid by Jerry, right?

The other 2 tell the truth

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I realize, of course, that you love to show your disdain for Cowboys employees

from top to bottom. And calling people “beneath” you names is par for the mensa course. But you still ignored the point, which is a rhetorical strategy but not a particularly effective one.

You’re probably independently wealthy from your mensa powers, but let’s say hypothetically you weren’t. I’d love to see you “take” your boss “to task.”

Ok, 120-120 in fifteen years is pretty mediocre.

by Uncle Angus on Jan 9, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

+1 for the Blackie Sherrod reference.

Thanks for bringing back a classic line from one of the greats.

(Hands over crown)... Dude seriously you are the most optimistic Fan in the world……
--by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 17, 2011 4:55 AM CST

by hookerhome on Jan 9, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Indeed one of the greats.

Glad someone caught it. You show your age. : )

Ok, 120-120 in fifteen years is pretty mediocre.

by Uncle Angus on Jan 10, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Read him in the Dallas Times-Herald a long time ago.

Back when they had Blackie, Skip Bayless, and Frank Luksa, as columnists, the T-H was better than anything at at the straight-laced (except for Randy Galloway) at TDMN.

It was a sad day when the Times-Herald folded, and everyone watched to see who would be absorbed into the other papers (included the FWST).

Blackie Sherrod and Bob St. John were my favorite Dallas-area columnists of all time.

(Hands over crown)... Dude seriously you are the most optimistic Fan in the world……
--by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 17, 2011 4:55 AM CST

by hookerhome on Jan 11, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

last year

the Bengals and Texans fans wanted their front office and coaches fired.

by somebodyquiet on Jan 8, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Pro football talk reporting

that Wade Phillips, among other veteran coaches, are being considered for the Bucs HC position. Should we craft a letter of recommendation for him? He can take Campo with him.

by nycowboysfan on Jan 8, 2012 11:26 AM CST reply actions  

Wade is a great DC, but HC, not so much

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by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't these guys as our first 5 draft picks

Rd1: David DeCastro (G) Stanford
Rd2: Brandon Washington (G) Miami
Rd3: Brandon Boykin (CB) South Carolina
Rd4: George Iloka (FS) Boise State
Rd5: Keith Tandy (CB) West Virginia

It addresses the offensive line and secondary

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 8, 2012 11:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yup

This ain’t gonna get fixed in the coming 12 months…so as long as they get good players in the draft, I don’t care what positions they play. Just keep grinding on personnel and get as many RKGs as possible, and continue to improve this roster, both in terms of talent and finances.

by rabblerousr on Jan 8, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

You don’t think you can add two wins in 12 months? Add DeCastro and maybe Finnegan or something you don’t think that’s adding two wins? A full season of a healthy Murray? Maybe Austin, Dez, and Robinson at full strength with a healthy Romo and time to pass? That’s probably adding two wins IMO.

by Omar Little on Jan 8, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Not many if you ask me

The only holes left would be at Dline and OLB.

The problem with this team was with interior of the offensive line and the back end of the defense. Sure those areas up in this yr’s draft and fill in some gaps in free agency.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Jan 8, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It seems like

Guards and CB are 2 relatively deep positions in this draft. That is good for us. Try using FA to shore up some other positions.

by nycowboysfan on Jan 8, 2012 11:42 AM CST reply actions  

We are America's Team, always will be period !

The media can’t criticize Tony because there is nothing to criticize and since, for the most part they hate us, they’ll find something else to criticize about us.

We must protect Tony at all costs by signing OL men in FA and/or by drafting DeCastro if he’s there at #14.

I’d like 1 FA and 2 FA signings for O and D, respectively. Get Nicks or Grubbs. Get Campbell if possible or Avril/Jones. Look at FA secondary help as more become available. Not sure about Grimes and Finnegan.

Draft BPA to fill our many needs.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Jan 8, 2012 11:52 AM CST reply actions  

Sounds like Campo will decamp.

Acquire Sparano and Haley, both, and maybe 2012 won’t look like 2011.

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"There is no cause for concern" Jerry Jones

by stubabe on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

I heard the same BS about Romo last season

that he reached his ceiling, he’s as good as he’ll ever be, but then he goes and has the best season of his career with a poor OL.

Magary is a freakin moron.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 8, 2012 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

I think Romo has peaked. He may play a few more years at this peak.

Romo is damn good it’s not a knock to say that some thinks he has peaked. He just plays on a horrible team with horrible leadership.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

you're wrong just like all the haters were last year

With a better OL he can put up even better production no doubt

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 8, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

How do you know ? You don't.

He is good enough to win a superbowl but you don’t know that he would be better. It’s not about the stats. it’s making that huge throw on 3rd down and 14.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Romo has made those routinely throughout his career so whats your point?

Romo is entering his prime years as qb, thats how I know.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 9, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a hater. If he's at his peak, that means he's in elite company. If he can

maintain that for the next few years, we have a real chance at Super Bowls.

by Fernie67 on Jan 8, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

He's entering his prime years, doesn't mean he can't get better

I never understood this garbage about players reaching their peak or plateau because everyone can get better every year if they continue to work on getting better which Romo does year in and year out and his career production reflects as much.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Jan 9, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Drew Magary is a comic genius. Go to Kissing Suzy Kolber and tell me you don't piss yourself laughing

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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST

by Seanrude on Jan 8, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

actually, he knows quite a bit, his job there is to pucnh the buttons of Cowboys' fans, which he clearly succeeds at doing

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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST

by Seanrude on Jan 8, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, don't get the point. A sports news reporting agency employs someone to

say stupid, unfunny things to get attention? What am I saying? That’s exactly what they all do.

by Fernie67 on Jan 8, 2012 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

get punched for not shutting his mouth

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"Leadership is getting someone to do what they don’t want to do, to achieve what they want to achieve." - Tom Landry

by jakezze01 on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Can someone link me to a couple comments where Haley was praised here on BTB

the amount of anticipation I’m seeing for Haley’s return doesn’t match my memory of how he was perceived while here.

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by KD Drummond on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

*1

Love to have Sparano, but not Haley.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 8, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

/1

I am tired of plusing things haha Dire can multiply Ill divide.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 8, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

KD, Todd's exit from Dallas was not pretty

He wa a Parcells guy and was swept out as soon as Parcells left. He was having a constant conflict with TO and was being blamed for TO’s lack of production and there wer many fights between the two. Todd can be a very in your face guy.

Todd and Romo got along great and are close friends. Tony credits Todd as much as anyone for his development. Tony never realy did forgive TO for his public fight with Todd. Most fans and media in Dallas at the time sided with Owens in his fight with Todd at the time.

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders

How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.

by Birddog26 on Jan 8, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

now that’s an interesting take that I will absorb- but I’m not sure I want Romo to have a buddy from the past. That doesn’t always work out to be what people want it too.

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by KD Drummond on Jan 8, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

The biggest problem I have with this is that you're judging him solely by his time in Dallas

When he was OC in Arizona he ran a top notch passing game with a geriatric QB, two great WRs, and not much running game to speak of. He was the WRs coach of several pretty terrible offenses. Vinny Testeverde, Terrance Copper, and Quincy Morgan…barf. 2005 he had some over the hill players and guys that were already on borrowed time. He had one season where he had something to work with and that was 2006. Romo had 2900 yards in ten starts (over 16 starts that’s 4600 yards) and he had two thousand yards receivers. I want Haley with this team. I feel that Dez, Austin, and hopefully Robinson (don’t forget Witten either) have the talent to make up the best receiving corps in the league. I just think that they need a QB that has time to pass and a coach that can get the most out of them and the passing game. I think Haley’s definitely part of that.

by Omar Little on Jan 8, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Haley was a brilliant, mad-scientist OC.

His play calling was simply a work of art during his time in Arizona—they were probably my favorite NFL team to watch during the Warner-Haley years.

by Admiral Dallas on Jan 8, 2012 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

actually I'm also judging him on his performance while HC of Kansas City

2009 below average offense
2010 average offense
2011 below average offense

conflicts with numerous people along numerous stops.

and his time in Arizona? I didn’t watch them much, will admit… but his ratings are decidedly average for the time he spent there as well. A geriatric QB? we’re talking about HOF Kurt Warner right?

In his five seasons since, Dallas offense outranks Haley’s offenses whenever Romo has been healthy, and only ranked a couple spots behind his when Romo was out.

Still don’t see it.

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by KD Drummond on Jan 8, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

5 things we learned....

What a crock of ….. Anyway… They dog Romo and they don’t look around at the rest of the leagues QBs and notice that every QB, with out an exception have bad games. Some far worse than others. Romo played extremely well considering he played numerous games banged up.
Demarco Murray, ended up in the worst place possible on his last play of this season, with his foot being rolled over by a 300 lb lineman. I don’t think that means he will be an injury waiting to happen when he gets on the field. He played lights out ever since he got the chance to start.

by Aaron Burtram on Jan 8, 2012 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

The teams offensive line


And while the Cowboys knew it would have growing pains, the offensive line should have performed better

This after mentioning all the injuries the team had to play through? come on man

by Aaron Burtram on Jan 8, 2012 2:14 PM CST reply actions  

TNew

2003 NFL Draft Bio
All-America and All-Conference pick as a senior and honored as the Thorpe Award winner as the nation’s top defensive back. Finished the season with 54 tackles, 5 INTs and a team leading 14 pass breakups. Explosive, shut down corner with great playing speed. Displays top footwork off the line, fluid hip movement and loses nothing in transition. Quickly plants and breaks on the ball, possesses a great burst of closing or recovery speed and makes a lot of plays on the ball.

40-Time? 4.39
Victor Cruz? 4.49

Yet he couldn’t chase down Cruz in a championship game… he needs to move to the slot or be replaced obviously… 5th overall pick in 2003… he had a good run but he is not the same guy we drafted even when healthy. I think he also gets gassed easily playing in the LCB spot, he needs to be fresh to be effective and maybe we’re better off with bringing up a Mario Butler or using Ball in the slot and Scandrick at LCB.

by scraig on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

he has just gotten old and lost his speed

he used to be one of the fastest guys in the league

by somebodyquiet on Jan 8, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe we have been too hard on TNew

Can u imagine how he must feel about his performance this season? He knows he played like s#!t this yr. can we please stop throwing him under the bus? have any of u had a groin injury or pulled hammy? let alone trying to cover cruz, who has tore it up on everyone this yr. I blame the lockout more than the players. Conditioning, time in camp with the coaches, F.A. was screwed up, scramble to getem signed etc… I had a double groin pull once. took forever to heal. Youth speeds healing, buts it harder to b patient when yer young. i wasn’t couldn’t stay off bb court. gp’s make it hard to turn your hips, hurts to raise arms, jump, reach. had to b tuff making a tackle. No wonder he played off so much! He’s a warrior in my book. The best we had. backfield was banged up and Eli cashed in. It takes a whole team to win. thats all. there, I feel better. thanks for listening to my bitchen. give the boys a break. It was just a ruff season all around.

ps I’d still b on the look out for a good cb this offseason :)

by letsgtld on Jan 8, 2012 4:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

At some point in time

you go to the coach and tell him that you don’t have it anymore. There’s no shame in that. TNew could’ve (and maybe he did) pull Ryan aside and tell him that while he wants to play (as every player does), the his play just might not be good enough.

I’m a coach and I’ve had players tell me that. Some, I gave a pep talk to and told them to get out there and do their best – usually because they were the best option I had. Others, I told them I respected their words, that I know it took courage and honesty to tell me, that I would consider them carefully and that they should continue to play hard and not to expect immediate replacement as their effort/leadership is necessary to the team beyond their shortcomings.

But, I respected ALL of them for doing so.

TNew has been a shutdown corner for a few years in his career. The other years, he was always solid to elite. Now, he’s below average. Not his fault – he’s just older and there’s nothing wrong w/ that.

But as fans, we’re not here to be lenient (at least I’m not). I want the best 22 players on the field at all times. I have respect for Tnew but it’s time for him to go.

by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 8, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

that he has to go as our starting cb. Maybe He’ll sign as our nickle guy for a reasonable contract, thinking that that might be his best chance to get a ring. My point is I hate seeing him ride off into the sunset like that. We need his experience. He’s been a Cowboy a long time. Lets not take all his dignaty. Fans can be brutal and I want to win as much as everyone else. u know, respect the star

by letsgtld on Jan 9, 2012 12:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Well that makes all the difference, Cincy sucks as much as Dallas so all is well

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by Seanrude on Jan 9, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Dallas sucks more than Cincy, so all is well, or something

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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST

by Seanrude on Jan 10, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Sad huh ?

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Jan 8, 2012 3:51 PM CST reply actions  

Did a quick search on this

Tully kid? Any words outside of the usual youtube video (which everyone above the age of 12 has as well)?

by Tyrone Jenkins on Jan 8, 2012 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

nothing official

but speculation that we `ll get a 4th rd comp pick

Dallas -

Lost: Hurd (3 yr $5.15 million), Bowen (5 yr $27.5 million)
Signed: Elam (1 yr $2.5 million)

by ziggy19 on Jan 8, 2012 11:36 PM CST reply actions  

I mock you guys

14 *Nick Perry OLB Southern California
45 *Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina
82 *Robert Lester FS Alabama
115 Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College
135 comp Matt Reynolds OT Brigham Young
150 Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas
186 Derek Wolfe DE Cincinnati
222 LaVon Brazill WR Ohio

by ziggy19 on Jan 8, 2012 11:53 PM CST reply actions  

what do we do about OG?

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 9, 2012 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Reynolds can vie for a Guard spot

Kosier could return to form, Arkin, Nagy should be better, Kowalski shows promise. Costa…maybe not.

next yr LT Tyron LG Kosier C Nagy RG Arkin RT Free
Reynolds can back up RT and compete for G.
Kowalski offers the versatility of coming in a C and moving Nagy to G if that fields the best unit.

by ziggy19 on Jan 9, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Counting on Kosier at Guard for another year is a major mistake.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Jan 9, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

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