Rohpuri's Spin on MTD's Latest Mock Draft: Cowboys Edition
On Monday morning, one of the front page writers of Mocking The Draft published a six round mock draft. He had the Cowboys taking the following players: Janoris Jenkins (CB), Kelechi Osemele (G), Phillip Blake (C), Kendall Reyes (DE), Eddy Whitley (S), and Tanner Brock (ILB). It was a nice effort, however, better players were left on the table each time he had the Dallas Cowboys making their selection.
Blogging The Boys own front page writer, One.Cool.Customer, aka OCC saw the mock draft, and put his spin on it. His method was simple, "[w]hat I like to do when I browse through these mocks is to look at which player I would have chosen for the Cowboys instead of the player proposed in the original mock...[and]...the player I choose instead of the pick proposed by MTD must be ranked lower in their mock draft than where the Cowboys are picking." If you haven't read his article detailing his alternate selections, click on the link provided. After the jump, I'm going to take my shot at a six round mock draft following OCC's guideline, and using CBS's current prospect rankings to measure the value.
The Dallas Cowboys have the following needs according to MTD: Corner, Guard, Center, Safety, Defensive End, Pass Rusher, Inside Linebacker, Nose Tackle, Kicker, and Punter. Since the Cowboys have said they will follow the Best Player Available approach, as they view Free Agency as the place to sure up needs, then I too will go by BPA in making my picks.
FIRST ROUND
"The Dallas Cowboys select, RB Trent Richardson from Alabama."
Just as predicted, a consensus Top 5 talent fell in the First Round. Jacksonville used the #8 pick to select Quinton Coples (Ranked 12th). Carolina used the #9 on Dre Kirkpatrick (Ranked 10th). Buffalo reached with the #10 on Michael Floyd (Ranked 21st). Kansas City used the #11 on David DeCastro (Ranked 11th). Seattle used the #12 on Michael Brockers (Ranked 13th). Arizona used the #13 on Courtney Upshaw (Ranked 18th).
Remember, the 2010 draft? After finding a hidden gem in Miles Austin during the 2009 season, Dallas moved up to #24 and picked Dez Bryant, after their two other targets Mike Iupati and Earl Thomas were off the board. This time Dallas didn't give up any extra picks, the draft came to them. Although I was tempted to take Melvin Ingram (Ranked 19th) or Janoris Jenkins (Ranked 17th), taking Richardson (Ranked 5th) was the better move. There is no elite "can't miss" pass rusher in this draft. Furthermore, there's a deep CB class in this draft and in free agency that I feel Dallas won't be in the position of being forced to just take one because they need to. Additionally, teams bomb the draft when they pass on an elite talent. Trent Richardson is a blue chip talent. How does he compare to what the Boys have on their current roster? Felix Jones is viewed as nothing more than a change of pace back, who keeps getting hurt; also, it's unclear if he will be with the team in 2013. Yes, the Cowboys look to have struck oil with DeMarco Murray (3rd rd pick in 2011). However, he too has a history of getting injured, which is why he wasn't considered a top 50 pick in 2011. Moreover, Murray couldn't stay healthy his rookie season, broken ankle in the first Giants game. On the other hand, Richardson has no injury history. He was a durable player, who also has plenty of tread on his tires, as he wasn't rode into the ground for the two time National Champs. I always say never look a gift horse in the mouth.
SECOND ROUND
"The Dallas Cowboys select, DT Dontari Poe from Memphis."
We all agree that for Dallas' defense to get consistent pressure on the QB, the defensive line needs to improve. Most of us also agree that Dallas should move current NT Jay Ratliff over to DE as he'll be more effective long term. Additionally, Jerry Jones said during the Senior Bowl that he wanted to mold this defense after the Ravens. Poe (Ranked 30th) allows them to do just that. What makes the Ravens so good is NT Haloti Ngata, 6'4 330 pound anchor in the middle of their DL. The key to a really good 3-4 defense, is to have NT who can collapse the pocket up the middle, which prevents the QB from stepping up in the pocket. Poe is a big dude cut out of the Ngata mold, checking in at 6'5 350 pounds. I highly doubt the BTB posters will be ready to Occupy Valley Ranch over this pick. As this selection clearly scores a TD since it represents the scenario where BPA and NEED collide. I agree with O.C.C. with this pick.
THIRD ROUND
"The Dallas Cowboys select, CB Leonard Johnson from Iowa State."
It's well documented that the Cowboys need to upgrade the secondary. Johnson (Ranked 47th) is 5'10 198. At this spot he's a great value pick, as MTD had him going to Jacksonville in the 4th Rd. Mike Mayock really liked this kid a lot at the Senior Bowl. All week he was one of the best corners, in either off coverage or man coverage. According to his CBS profile "he plays better against elite competition [and] held Justin Blackmon under 100 receiving yards..." He's adept to playing both press or zone coverage. He likes to get physical with WRs. While he won't make the spectacular INT, he's adept to knocking the ball away, and will make a play on a ball thrown in front of him. He also seems like an RKG, as he's considered a vocal leader who directs traffic, plays with a short memory, and has a strong attitude. If he runs a 4.3-4.4 forty at the combine, he could move up the board.
Some other guys I considered with this pick: Brandon Brooks (OG), Jared Crick (DE), George Iloka (FS), and Kirk Cousins (QB).
FOURTH ROUND
"The Dallas Cowboys select, OLB Johnathan Massaquoi,from Troy."
That sound you hear is the collective forehead slapping done by every other gm in the league. I must have read over MTD's 6 round mock draft 10 times between last night and today just to make sure I really didn't see his name called. Massaquoi (Ranked 61st) is 6'2 255 and could arguably be the sleeper in this draft that turns out to be the best pass rusher. His Kirwan Production Ratio is an outstanding 2.02 splash plays per game over the last two seasons (which are his career numbers as well). In my opinion, in the Fourth Rd, why not swing for the fences and see if you can strike it rich and find the next great pass rusher from Troy. Dallas took a gamble on DeMarcus Ware in 2005 (First Rd), and it worked. In 2003, he Giants took a gamble on Osi Umenyiora (Second Rd) and it worked. Whether or not we franchise Anthony Spencer, Massaquoi provides good depth at the pass rush spot (always nice to have options off the bench), and he could challenge Victor Butler for playing time should Spencer's services be retained for another year.
Although I liked Kendall Reyes, Massaquoi is a talent that his hard to pass up. Also, there's less of an need for DE considering I've already taken Poe in the second round and putting him at DT, which allows Jay Ratliff to slide over to one of the DE spots.
FIFTH ROUND
"The Dallas Cowboys select, CB Cliff Harris, from Oregon."
I just couldn't pass up the chance at this pick. Harris (Ranked 136th) would've been a first round talent in 2012 had just played fast and furious on the field. Instead his need for speed, and driving without a valid license got him in trouble up in Oregon. He's 5'10 168, and projects to run a 4.3-4.4 forty. If he does that, he would be a nice weapon to have against DeSean Jackson. In 2010, he lead the Oregon Ducks with 6 INTs, 17 pass deflections, and a stellar 18 yards per return on punts. Dallas hasn't had a dynamic punt returner since Deion Sanders. He would be able to bring depth at CB, challenge Orlando Scandrick for playing time, and would double as the punt returner. Don't worry Cliff, there's no penalty for accelerating into 5th gear in the NFL. This is the perfect round to take a chance on a guy who may or may not be an RKG.
SIXTH ROUND
"The Dallas Cowboys select, OL Quentin Saulsberry from Missippi State."
Not settling for an offensive lineman in rounds 2 thru 5 paid off. Dallas got good value with this pick, as Saulsberry (Ranked 144th) was still on the board. He's 6'3 302 and is very versatile. He was a 4 year starter in the SEC, starting over 50 games at the following positions: Right Guard (19), Left Guard (13), Right Tackle (12), Center (6). He's described as physical, aggressive, tenacious, has a top motor, plays through the whistle, and looks to eliminate the defender from the play. He's comparable to the Chiefs 2nd round pick from last year, C Rodney Hudson. With the right coaching from Bill Callahan, Saulsberry has potential to develop into a starter.
CONCLUSION
Dallas comes away with a nice haul. They make a splash in the first round thanks to Trent Richardson falling to them. They get good value up and down the draft board at positions of need. The nose tackle possession was addressed. There should be no complaints that Dallas didn't address the secondary, as 2 corners were taken between rounds 3-5, both could see extended playing time if not this year, then possibly in 2013. The Boys also got a potential replacement for Anthony Spencer with a fourth round pick.
Now it's your turn BTB. Use the comments to let me know where I screwed up, what I should've done differently, and whether or not I should be fired for taking Richardson at 14. If you like it, show me the love.
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This was well done and I could see it happening just like that.
I would hope seventh round could be Wayne Dorsey.
If we get Trent Richardson we got to trade away Felix for a fourth round choice or better. He would be leaving as F/A next season anyway.
Thanks man
Can you provide any info on Dorsey? I haven’t heard of him. Also, I agree, if we took Richardson, Felix needs to be traded.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I read he was heavily recruited and once viewed as a " Kevin Hardy" type but never did much is college.
Pretty good numbers for a 7th round guy though
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=106914&draftyear=2012&genpos=DE
http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/dorsey_wayne00.html
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 14, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
wouldn't hurt to kick the tires and see if we have something
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
You won't get a 4th for Felix if other teams know you are going to trade him.
Felix is a bust. He isn’t worth a 4th to other teams. Your best bet in trading Felix is as a throw in to move up in another round.. He might help you get from the 4th round to the 3rd round.
Trent Richardson does nothing for the secondary or o line. I wouldn’t draft him unless we signed Nicks and a cb in free agency. However I could see Jerry drooling thinking he has the next Emmitt.
In the sixth I take Paige-Moss.
Poe I am good with. Funny now everyone is on board with getting a nt. 7 months ago all I heard was how great Rat is.
I would prefer Patrick Witt in the 6th. Just to give McGee some competition.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 15, 2012 6:55 AM CST up reply actions
Edit: Witt in the 7th
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 15, 2012 6:56 AM CST up reply actions
He is sort of disappointing t but not a complete bust by any means.
He would be a useful player for a number of teams.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
Whose Patrick Witt
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
QB . Yale .
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 15, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
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Man, I can’t see any of these players in your first four picks falling to us, but if the draft were to shake out like this, I can’t even tell you how happy I’d be. I know Richardson has been talked about before and people have brought up trading Jones, but if we get Richardson, I’m all for getting a second for Murray and getting a safety like Iloka or Martin.
Agreed
When a draft plays out like this, don’t ask why, just keep your poker face on while the rest of the league goes on tilt.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
+1
However, I’d keep Murray for at least the trade deadline. That way a team that thinks they have a shot might be willing to give up more than just a second for a guy who could’ve ran for 1400+ yards last season. Just sayin!
Also Trenches, I believe it’s recommended.
"Fear the Star" -A WISE Man!
by mho on Feb 14, 2012 11:29 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
That's not a bad idea
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Lol. The “Rec” actually stands for ‘recommended’.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 15, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
I know in this mock
We get some pretty good talent, but if we picked Richardson in the 1st I would be pissed. Unless we get some good value in a trade for Murray.
by BrickTop on Feb 14, 2012 10:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What if the draft played out like this?
Would you still be pissed?
I think if they got Richardson at 14, they’re more likely to trade Felix as opposed to Murray. Felix is in a walk year, and a team can use mid round pick to take a 1 year flier on him see if they want to keep him beyond 2012.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I don't
Like the idea of having Murray and Richardson. Rather have one strong running back, and a complimentary running back like we do now. Are Murray and Richardson going to split carries if he is drafted by the Cowboys? Or is one going to be a 3rd down running back
by BrickTop on Feb 14, 2012 10:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I look at it like this
Play Richardson early, as he’s the better player-more dynamic, and more durable. I’d use Murray as the fourth quarter guy, but mix him in early on in short yardage and redzone.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Or play the hot hand in the 4th quarter
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I think
both are going to be really good starting running backs, and if you play one, and limit the other, then you are just holding one of them back from their true potential. So I wouldnt like the idea of having both. I would rather trade out of the first round than draft Richardson tbh
by BrickTop on Feb 14, 2012 10:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I look at this this way
By rotating both guys, and riding with the hot hand in the 4rth Quarter, I’ve kept their mileage low. Having them both around gives me flexibility to trade one of them before 2015 (when DeMarco Murray becomes a free agent), and keep the better guy.
This is a good problem to have for the short term. Remember Tiki Barber didn’t become the workhorse he was until 2002. From 1997-2001 he split carries.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
you grab richardson and try to trade him.
Teams will come calling
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 14, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. This situation is one of the few that I would like the Cowboys to just trade down
I think there will be a dozen teams wanting Richardson and one of them might be willing to give up something great to get him.
There's always money in the banana stand.
Trent Richardson wouldn't really fit though
He’s essentially the same back as DeMarco Murray. There wouldn’t be a real change of pace. Besides, Melvin Ingram is still there on the board. Alternatively, you could trade down and get a guy like Cordy Glenn or whatever cornerback emerges out of the pack into a late first round grade. Janoris Jenkins is still there as well, depending on how you feel about him.
Running backs have a very short life in the NFL. Felix Jones does get often hurt, but that’s the reality of running back in the NFL. These guys get banged up easily, and it’s a reason running backs have the shortest NFL careers. Trent Richardson isn’t a smart pick or a value pick for the Cowboys, regardless of how good he is.
I look at this way
1) We don’t have a need at pass rusher, we could use an upgrade over Spencer. I liked the pick I used on Massaquoi. There’s value to be had at pass rusher outside of the first round.
2) I really don’t think the Cowboys will trade down unless someone really blows them away with an offer. Unless the Bengals are giving up their 17 and their second round pick for Richardson I’m not budging.
3) This draft is so deep at CB I don’t want to take one in the first round unless Morris Claiborne is there at 14. It’s not a knock on these guys.
4) The guys I really wanted were all taken before 14 and a top 5 talent fell to 14.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
ok how about this!
The Bengals offer the 17th pick and their 2nd. At that point you know they are low balling you for the value they see. Take both their first (see my comment above). if this happened I’d take.
17- Janoris Jenkins
21- Mark Barron
"Fear the Star" -A WISE Man!
by mho on Feb 14, 2012 11:47 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
MHO
I like that haul if we dealt Richardson for both Jenkins and Barron.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 12:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
thanks! and it addresses both glaring needs in the secondary!
"Fear the Star" -A WISE Man!
by mho on Feb 15, 2012 1:06 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
It would me amazing
but 2 firsts for Richardson may be asking for a lot. It’s all hypothetical though. Maybe it happens?
There's always money in the banana stand.
The Seahawks have Marshawn Lynch, they don't need a RB
I really think the Seahawks take Nick Perry. They need a pass rusher, and Pete Carol recruited him at USC.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
that means someone else drops to the Cowboys. I don’t see Richardson though falling to the Cowboys. I have seen boards where is he the number 3 guy in the entire draft.
If he is there at 14 you take him. Try to trade Felix Jones right away.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 14, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
yes
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
If Richardson is there at 14
The first thing I do is call a team looking to shop Felix.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Who
would you see trying to trade up with us at 14 if Richardson was there? Denver? Cleveland?
by BrickTop on Feb 14, 2012 11:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The only way I trade the rights to Trent Richardson
If I got a first and second round pick in this year’s draft. I think the kid is LaDanian Tomlinson good.
My ideal trade partner would be the Bengals-they have two first round picks to work with, give us the 17 and their 2nd rounder and I’ll call it a done deal.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
HoWhat!!!
Give me both your first for T. Rich!!! He is exactly what that team needs especially after the year they had. Solid D and all they lack on O is a RB. If I’m the Bengals I would trade the farm for Richardson (the farm being my two 1sts).
"Fear the Star" -A WISE Man!
by mho on Feb 14, 2012 11:36 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
If we got both Bengals' first round picks I'd be extatic.
I just don’t think that’s a realistic expectation.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
If Cinncy really wanted him they have two number ones to trade up for him.
In fact I could see them trading a first and second to trade up to get him.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 14, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
Which is why I'd be happy if we got their
- and their 2nd rd pick
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
i mean #14 and their 2nd rd pick
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
They might franchise Marshawn
I wouldn’t sleep on them taking Richardson if they don’t agree to a long term deal with Beast Mode
Do you think Seattle does that?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 12:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would still be pissed
I just don’t think taking a RB in the 1st is a good idea anymore. You can find RB talent everywhere now. Rather have a mediocre RB with a stacked WR corps like the Packers.
by somebodyquiet on Feb 18, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Rohpuri is just following the BPA rules.
As long as we trade Jones if we get Richardson it works
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 14, 2012 10:34 PM CST reply actions
I was curious about the Poe pick.
From everything I have, I would be very happy if Dallas drafts Poe. Also, I realize that everything can change after the combine. That being said, most mocks I have looked at have Poe going in the first round. Further more, you even list him as being ranked 30th. So, do you really think he’ll be there when Dallas drafts at 45?z
"I know we put a lot of weight on championships, and rightfully so. But championships are won as a team, and I'm fully convinced of that. You never see one guy — a great player, great quarterback — carry a team through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and win a Super Bowl that way. I've never seen it." - Kurt warner
I don't know, but all I know is this, he was the BPA at 45
If he’s there at 45 take him. I expect him to go late first, early second.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I have to agree if he is there at 45, he will be BPA.
"I know we put a lot of weight on championships, and rightfully so. But championships are won as a team, and I'm fully convinced of that. You never see one guy — a great player, great quarterback — carry a team through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and win a Super Bowl that way. I've never seen it." - Kurt warner
Too bad
Dallas can’t draft like I did in Madden 12
1 M Barron
2 V Curry
3 Q Coples
4 A Dennard
5 M Floyd
Haha
by BrickTop on Feb 14, 2012 10:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Too bad
Dallas can’t also get Andrew Luck to be Romo’s back up like I have it right now in Madden 12 along with those other guys.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Alright
I’m going to use your same guidlines, and try and come up with my own mock. Maybe i’ll post it later or something.
by BrickTop on Feb 14, 2012 11:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Really hard to imagine adding Richardson when we have so many other holes
Best Player Available is not a strict rule. And running back certainly isn’t a position that is hard to fill. I’d rather trade the pick and hope someone values Richardson enough to give up something good. On the other hand maybe the rest of the league is already seeing RB the same way – not a valued pick no matter how talented the player may be. That is the reason RB’s regularly “fall” in the draft. There value does not merit missing out on a top tackle, pass rusher, etc.
While I tend to agree with you
However, I couldn’t pass up on an elite player. I didn’t take Janoris Jenkins at that spot because CB is deep this year. The best tackles and the best guard were off the board. The best DL prospect, Coples was gone. Even though I really like Ingram, I don’t like him more than Richardson. I think Richardson has much higher ceiling. Not taking Ingram was mitigated by going with Massaquoi in the fourth round; by the way, I’m glad you liked that pick.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Yea if we're stuck with 14 then maybe it's the right pick but I'd rather trade down
Cordy Glenn & several corners come to mind as later first round picks or even into the second. The draft is deep this year and rounds two & three seem more loaded than normal. If we can stock up in these rounds and toward the end of the first there is likely to be some great players picked up.
by livemontana on Feb 14, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
I still can't believe Massaquoi went undrafted in that 6 Rd mock draft
To be honest, I’m most proud of that pick at that spot.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 12:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions
That’s a huge miss, and I didn’t see it when I did my mock.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 15, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
The formatting of that MTD Mock Draft
Was so painful to read. I really did have to re-read the thing multiple times to make sure my eyes weren’t playing tricks.
What do you think of my mock?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 1:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sold on taking a RB in the first
I understand why you did it. But that takes BPA a step too far for me.
I like all the other picks. I wonder why you didn’t take Jared Crick in the third, he would have been a great steal from a BPA pov as well.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 15, 2012 2:13 AM CST up reply actions
But that takes BPA a step too far for me.
Top 5 talent. If he is near Adrian Peterson what do you do?
I wonder why you didn’t take Jared Crick in the third
We need a CB. And I think the CB he chose n the third is a good value too.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 2:33 AM CST up reply actions
See? That's my whole point.
You can’t argue BPA with one pick and then argue need with another. That’s just a little too convenient.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 15, 2012 2:53 AM CST up reply actions
My thought process with Johnson over Crick was this
I initially took Jared Crick, then as I was checking his ranking, I saw Leonard Johnson was ranked ahead of him. So I searched through MtD’s mock to see where he went, I noticed it was the 4th round.
I took Johnson because it addressed a position of need, and he was the BPA, so my TD Draft Equation was satisfied, just like the Poe pick. If Johnson was ranked a lower than Crick, I go with Crick.
I also felt, by taking Poe in round 2c I didn’t need to address DE if there was a CB I liked in subsequent rounds, as Ratliff moving over would improve the position for the time being.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 3:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think that would depend on a lot of things
What if Richardson is great, really great , like Adrian Peterson but Crick is no better than Geathers?
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 6:27 AM CST up reply actions
So did
Dwight Bentley and Trumaine Johnson
by BrickTop on Feb 15, 2012 2:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yup I noticed that too
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Crick will be Marcus Spears.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
I think he will be ok but not a game changing player
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 8:24 AM CST up reply actions
why do you say that Mensa?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 12:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Because he isn't a good player. He is a mediocre player.
We have plenty of mediocre players on Dallas. Why add another one ?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 15, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
21.5 career sacks in 3 season
he had 10 sacks in 2010, after Suh departed.
He would’ve had better numbers if he didn’t get injured his final season
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I think Crick can be a starter who gives some rush but I don’t see him as pro bowl caliber.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Actually he has 20 career sacks.
Average player in the pros. He is not an elite athleticism player. May be moot. Dallas is said to be interested in Calais Campbell. I would prefer him over Coples or any other de in the draft.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 15, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
I like Campbell too
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 6:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
who doesn't like campbell?
he’s one of the best at his position in the game
by somebodyquiet on Feb 18, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
This was a great exercise
If we could trade back in the first with the Bengals for 17 and there 2nd, i would to it, but would not be really upset if we took Richardson either…..
VERY happy with Poe and the other OLB from Troy……would love it if it fell this way
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem
Rec'd
I’d love it if the draft ended up like this, but do you honestly believe Johnathan Massaquoi will fall that much? I can’t see it happening. He’ll probably be in the late 1st round-early 2nd round range after the combine. But all in all, you did a good job with what you had.
I'm not sure were Massquoi goes right now
The combine will help determine this
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 11:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Really like this
Not huge on going RB even though he could be awesome, I just don’t like the fact that we got Murray last year and go in the first when we need so much…
Here is my attempt (I have no idea about people towards the end, so I’m shooting in the dark):
1. Janoris Jenkins CB (Love his game, nervous about his size, but man he is good in coverage.)
2. Dontari Poe NT (Slide Rat over and we just solved two positions)
3. George Iloka FS (Super Tall, but fills a need and is pretty good value, I want to watch some tape on him, but it is either this or Leonard Johnson here)
4. Jonathan Massaquoi OLB (Looooooooooove this kid! I would take him in the 2nd or third if this was a more realistic mock. Also, I figured you selected him here, so it would be fine for me too)
5. Cliff Harris CB (Need 2 CB in this draft and this guy seems good, although SUPER light-weight. If I pick Leonard Johnson in the 3rd then this would be Eddie Whitley)
6. Quentin Saulsberry OL (Stole your pick, I have no idea who most of these guys are in the later rounds)
If it was a little more realistic, then I would package my third and 4th round picks to move into the late 2nd and pick up Massaquoi. Then I would use the compensatory 4th pick on one of these guys depending on where it is, in this order ( Leonard Johnson CB, George Iloka FS, Rishaw Johnson OG,Tank Carter ILB, or Desmond Wynn OL) With it likely being Desmond Wynn. Then follow up with Eddie Whitley in the 5th and Asa Jackson in the 6th.
What do you think?
nice draft.
But for Richardspon if the Cowboys have him rated that high ( top 5 pick) then they take ought to take him or take him and trade him.
But he Richardson is not going to be there at 14 anyway.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Coleman
What about B.J. Coleman? Kiper and McShay were talking about QB’s the other day and his name came up as a sleeper. I wouldn’t mind taking a flier in the later rounds for this kid.
by It's Our Deztiny88 on Feb 15, 2012 12:10 PM CST reply actions
I live in Chattanooga so I've seen some of Coleman
he’s a career backup, way too inconsistent to be counted on as a starter.
Has some skills, but don’t think he could develop into a starter. Worth a flyer late in the draft, but expectations should be low for him.
"There are no traffic jams along the extra mile." ~ Roger Staubach
Nice draft board
We also have to remember that what we do—and what all others teams do—depends on free agency. Someone we don’t expect might drop to us, or drop within a few spots we could trade up for.
"Jay Ratliff is always pissed off. I really wish he could play offense line and kick Justin Tuck's @@S."
Thank you
Who do you think will drop?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 12:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It kinda depends on where these free agent CB's land
and also where Peyton Manning goes. It’s just so all over the place right now—although once we get into free agency it’ll become clearer. A LOT clearer.
"Jay Ratliff is always pissed off. I really wish he could play offense line and kick Justin Tuck's @@S."
Yup, Free Agency will give us a better idea
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No to Richardson
I understand the infatuation. He’s a very good RB and he falls into our laps right there. But, you simply can’t draft BPA alone and hope to get better. He’s too much like Murray and we already have a solid RB corps. Rather trade that spot to someone like Chicago who’s having contract issues with Forte or Cincy, who may not bring back Benson. You pick up an extra 3rd rounder and draft a guy like Konz who will immediately come in and upgrade the OC position.
No trades happened during that mock draft
But I understand what you’re saying. I just didn’t want to take Konz that high at 14. I also think Dallas is being serious about not “Jerry-riging” the draft and staying true to the BPA approach. Peter Konz (Ranked 20th) might have been a reach at #14.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I really appreciate the comments, the feedback, and the recs guys
Keep them comming
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Isn't this the second year in a row where you have wanted us to draft
a running back? Last year, it was Ingram. You would have had us take him at 10, when it turned out the league only valued him as high as 28 in the first round. Ingram didn’t even justify that pick with his play this year. Indeed, he was outshone by a 3rd round pick (Murray). Sorry, but I hope the Cowboys don’t make that pick. I would rather they ignore CB and go with DeCastro. That is where the smart money will be.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
LDV
I was high on Ingram last year, and apparently the Cowboys wanted to trade back into the first round and get him.
Did I want him at 10 last year? Yes. That’s because up until the week of the draft, I barely knew anything about Tyron Smith and was skeptical in taking him, as didn’t get to watch many USC games in 2010. Also, I didn’t think the Cowboys would have DeMarco Murray on their radar, that pick came completely out of left field.
This year, I really like Trent Richardson, but I’m not advocating him as my first choice with the number 14 pick. If you’ve read my comments throughout the various draft related posts, I’m on the David DeCastro bandwagon. He’s my first choice. My other choices are: Quinton Coples, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Melvin Ingram. However, I’ve also said, that if DeCastro, Coples, and Kirkpatrick are gone, I wouldn’t complain if the Cowboys took Richardson ahead of Ingram or Jenkins, as I like the pass rushing prospects that fall outside of the first round, and because this is a very deep CB draft.
The reason I took Richardson in this mock, because the scenario above played out that way, and Mocking The Draft didn’t have any trades in their six round mock. So I felt fine taking Richardson at 14, knowing I was still going to get better players at the other positions in the next five rounds.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I agree in principle.
Richardson is arguably the best RB since Adrian Peterson. If he drops 14, you take him. He is by far the best player left, a true blue collar guy.
But this scenario is dependent on what happens in free agency next month. The team has serious holes at C, G, Pass Rusher, CB and safety. I don’t think they’ll sign a passrusher, (unless the get Mario Williams and switch to a 4-3), but Dontario Poe would allow Ratliff to move to DE and that should help the pass rush.
So what’s left to do is an upgrade on the interior or the O-Line and the secondary. If they sign someone like Carl Nicks, Ben Grubs, Chris Myers or Scott Welles (or even a combination of those two), as well as another CB, then I think taking Richardson provides them with a great infusion of talent. Felix Jones contract will run out next year and he has not lived up to his draft status. DeMarco Murray is talented, but also injury prone. So Richardson and a revamped Oline would turn a position of strength into one of pure dominance.
Ryan Tannehill
The key player in this draft is Ryan Tannehill if someone “reaches” for him it is going to push down a very nice player to the Cowboys
I too think he'll go in the Top 15, maybe even Top 10
It happens every year. QBs rise. He is already spoken of as a first rounder, give him a couple of months and he’ll climb even higher. Last year at this point in time if you had suggested that Locker goes at 8 and Ponder at 12 you would have been laughed out of the room.
Locker wasn't a shock.
Locker, had he come out in 2010, would’ve been the first qb taken. He still was going to be taken in the first round in last year’s draft even though he struggled his later year in school. Christian Ponder was the big shocker. If you watched him play at Florida State, you’d have thought 3rd round at best. Blaine Gabbert, was the intriguing one because he had an arm and good size which meant someone who fell in love with him would take him somewhere in the first three rounds.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Locker at 8 was also a surprise
Yes he was thought of as a first rounder, but no one expected him to go that high. Hell even Rick Gooselin didn’t even have him as a first rounder in his mock draft. His stock really took a hit after that 2010 you refer to.
QBing in only 19 games...
is quite a risk to take for a high first round pick. But i love his play. He reminds me of a young Staubach. Not saying he is as good as he was, but he has a very good arm and he can run like the wind. I think he would be very hard to defend against.
by TheCowboyFan on Feb 16, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
I think we'd be unbelievably lucky to get Poe in the 2nd and Massaquoi in the 4th.
I understand the thought behind taking Richardson there at 14, and honestly, I wouldn’t be upset if that’s how it indeed played out. However, like many others have said above, if that happens the first thing I’m doing is putting out feelers for a trade down. I’ll then take Mark Barron in the 1st and spend the extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd on a CB/OL.
That's a fair sentiment
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 8:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Draft Richardson
Trade him for a first and second not in 2013 but in 2014.
It is all part of a great plan
RBs Hold No Value
No one pays that for a RB. I doubt even Peterson or CJ would demand a first and second in return.
by inwittenitrust on Feb 16, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Eric Dickerson 1987
Herschel Walker 1989
Ricky Williams (two times)
To draft Tony Dorsett in 1977 the Cowboys traded three number two picks and a number one choice.
There are other examples too.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 16, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
HELL YA....but here's my rebuttal
I like your MOCK DRAFT but all of the gems mentioned are KNOWN by most GMs and scouts. Yes, if Trent Richardson drops to us at Pick #14, it would be VERY HARD to let this stud RB slip by to a rival that definitely doesn’t deserve him as much as us!!!! The Boys have struggled for years without a stud RB and seem to have a pretty good RB in Demarco Murray who I had KNEW ABOUT but thought NO WAY the Cowboys would ever draft him. Unfortunately, the Cowboys play in the rough & tough Eastern Conference and against some pretty tough AFC Defenses during the regular season as well. WE ALL KNOW that the Cowboys have absolutely NO CHANCE to beat the Giants or Eagles or any playoff Team without a great Offensive Line and FB/RBs combo!!! I even like your pick of Poe as our NT if we’re lucky enough to get him (and Trent Richardson).
But, getting either one of these GEMS will be a CRAP SHOOT!!!! Therefore, Jerrah and Jason will HOPEFULLY use Free Agency to sign (free agent) Pro-bowler NT Paul Soliai (6’4" & 350lbs) who will NOT be franchised again by the Dolphins (it’s be way too cost prohibitive)!!! In the THIRD ROUND, there will be a STUD RB named Terrance Ganaway who is 6’1" and weighs 241lbs who scored 21 TDS (YIKES) and rush for over 1,500 YDS (YIKES AGAIN)!!!! This dude is big, FAST, and would be our Giants version of Brandon Jacobs. Put this dude with Demarco Murray and we have our own RB combo version of Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs!!!! In the FIRST ROUND, we draft the BPA like a Offensive Tackle (or OG DeCastro) whereby we move LT Tyron Smith to LT, our draft choice (OT) or LT Doug Free to RT, and the other moves into the starting OG position. Yes, some folks have whined that Doug Free (6’6" 320lbs) has never played OG but we all KNOW that starting OT’s have the feet and size to play OG without much problem. To these whiners, I say that it’s the other way around…..going from OG to OT is where the problem occurs. In the SECOND ROUND, we draft a quality CB (or SAFETY) to compete with CB Mario Butler (who’s pretty damn good at 6’1" & 188lbs and who used last year and this offseason to gain additional upper-body strength).
So much for the CRAP SHOOT of wishing, hoping, & praying that Trent Richardson or D. Poe will be available in the DRAFT. Jerrah can SIGN NT Paul Soliai if he really wants him and the probability of the other 3 draft choices are very very HIGH as compared to Trent Richardson and D. Poe. What we need is for Jerrah to be freakin PRO-ACTIVE this year and ACT LIKE A GM and FIX THE DAMN TEAM with $17M under the CAP resources!!!!
Pacerman it all sounds good in a perfect world, but...
There are 31 other teams out there. Some of whom have a lot more money than the Cowboys under the cap. They’ll have a say in what happens in the draft and free agency too. So, with all the needs the team has, do you want to blow most of the cap on two players? Get Robinson and Soliai and that may leave very little for someone else. Also, they’ll want to have a little cap space to give an extension to any players they want to keep whose contracts expire after this year, so you have to keep that in mind too. As for being proactive, what makes you think Jerry wasn’t? Did he not try to get Nnamdi? Not his fault the Eagles swooped in and grabbed him. Just like with Nnamdi, other teams may want Soliai too, and we may not be able to get him if the price gets too high.
"Jay Ratliff is always pissed off. I really wish he could play offense line and kick Justin Tuck's @@S."
So I used your guideline and rules,
except I traded down with Cleveland in the first. So in this mock we are drafting at 22 and we pick up Cleveland’s 2nd rounder. Cleveland gets RG3 and Trent Richardson. So, pretty fair right?
Rd.1 Vinny Curry olb
Rd.2 Andre Branch de
Rd.2 Dontari Poe dt
Rd.3 Dwight Bentley cb
Rd.4 Trumaine Johnson cb
Rd.5 Tramain Thomas fs
Rd.6 Asa Jackson cb
by BrickTop on Feb 16, 2012 1:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Poe isn't slipping out of the first round.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 16, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
I would be happy with Poe or Ta'amu
He falls to the second round in the mock I referenced from
by BrickTop on Feb 16, 2012 2:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
BrickTop
I like your mock draft.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 3:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Switch a couple names
Like Poe with Ta’amu and Branch with Cox or Fleming, and I think it’s pretty realistic. Thanks though, man.
by BrickTop on Feb 16, 2012 8:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Is that contingent on signing Nicks ?
Either way it would be a good draft. I think though if they draft a true nt that de will be pushed further down. Thinking that they would want Rat at de. I like Cox. I saw him play many times being an sec fan.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 16, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
How good can he be?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
That would be my hope, yes.
Rather sign a vet OG and focus on a defensive Bpa draft.
by BrickTop on Feb 17, 2012 10:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Great job Rohpuri, Rec'd
You put some very good work into this.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
Thank you Birddog
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 3:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Birddog
Do you know any thing about Div 3 WR, Rico Wallace from Shenandoah Univeristy? How he projects next level? How much time he needs to develop?
I know he wasn’t invited at the combine, but will have his pro day at James Madison University.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 3:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I have not scouted him
From what I hear he is a great kid who dominated at that D3 level. Joe Jacoby, one of the coaches up there has been calling around to scouts and teams along with sending tape out on him and getting some intrest in him in the league. I think he will have some UDFA offers to consider.
As far as develoment, I would probably look at something like Austin’s development.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
Do you think the Cowboys would be one of those teams
That take a look at him?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think the Cowboys could be
If he does go UDFA a lot will depend on where his agent steers him. He is repped by Ryan Earls at Cover 3 Representation who is new to the agent game so it is kind of hard to read where he may want him to go.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
calais campbell
for those of you who want campbell .. i read today that arizona’s gm said that there is no way he gets away from them .. he’s either going to be signed long term or franchised
thanks for the heads up
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
quick question
did u consider how free agency might effect your draft .. especially with how the cowboys handle anthony spencer
i also think they will be very active in regards to improving oline .. obviously they love carl nicks like everyone else .. i’m also hoping for chris myers © from texans
also would love to see if they could get terrell thomas (cb) from giants
this would greatly effect the cowboys draft board imho
your thoughts
It's hard to predict free agency
So I just went BPA.
As far as free agency is concerned, I like the targets. I’m sitting on the fence regarding Spencer. I’m not a fan of his, but I understand why they would tag him.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
excited, nervous & impatient
all my emotions when i think of this years draft .. well the whole off season for that matter
excited at what new players will be joining the cowboys
nervous because jerry is in charge
impatient because i can’t stand having to wait till march for FA and april for the draft

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