The Cowboys should sign Routt and franchise Spencer
Howdy Cowboy fans. There has been a lot of chatter on the web lately about franchising Spencer and about signing Routt. This seems to be a polarizing topic on this website lately, and it seems as though a lot of people are against these moves. This honestly surprises me coming from this website which I feel has some of the most logical and realistic fans which is why I love this website. I would expect it on the comments of espn.com or places like that, but it honestly surprises me to see all of the people who are so against these two football moves. Moves that I consider to be pretty smart.
I think the first thing people need to do is being more realistic. Let's use some logic. I'm very guilty of this myself in the offseason. It's very easy to sit around and daydream about signing one or even a couple of the big name guys. We all love thinking about getting the big splash like Mario or Nicks. Heck, sometimes we even think about how awesome it would be to make a couple of big splashes and land a couple of the sexy names in free agency. So after a month of dreaming of going all in for a big name free agent, our initial reaction to the thought of signing Routt and franchising Spencer is disappointment.
Let's be honest. The Cowboys aren't one player away. In fact, what team is really ever one player away in free agency? The Packers when they got Reggie White...yes. The Cowboys when we landed Deion to get our 3rd SB in four seasons....yes. Who else? More often than not, going for big free agents has not worked out, just ask Danny Synder. I have been disappointed in recent years with the Cowboys as they seem to do hardly anything in free agency. I think there needs to be a balance between making some big signings and doing nothing. The Cowboys are going to have plenty of cap room this year, but this needs to be spent wisely. This needs to be spent to shore up all the huge holes at positions that were below average last year.
Our team will never consist of 22 Pro Bowlers. It never will, and that's ok. What's not ok is having extremely subpar play at a few positions. It's ok to be average or slightly about average, but it's not ok to be way below average at certain positions. This brings me to Spencer. Spencer is a good football player. He's probably not as dynamic as you would like, and sure we would all love for him to get a few more sacks, but he's a pretty good player. He's great against the run, and he is able to get a lot of QB pressures. Again, my key to this post is using logic. I'm sick of seeing people say "Spencer sucks, get rid of him." That is not being logical. Spencer does not suck. He is not bad, but he is not the great pass rusher that we all wish we had to pair with D-Ware. Let me ask you this.....if we let Spencer go, who do we have to replace him? Exactly. It's easy to say that a guy sucks, and we need to get rid of him, but you HAVE to have a replacement. No way that Butler is a replacement. The guy can pressure the QB a bit, but he is not a complete enough player. He is a good role player, but he isn't an improvement over Spencer. So by getting rid of Spencer,it would create a huge hole on our team when we already have a few. This is the opposite of what you want to do going in to the draft. If the Cowboys let Spencer go, they would almost force themselves to take a pass rusher in round one. This is a risky move. There is a chance that the Cowboys could land an upgrade over Spencer, but there's also a chance that the 'boys get Spencer 2.0. I've heard a lot of people say that the 'boys could end up with Upshaw. Everybody describes him as a "safe pick." Probably about a 6-8 sack a year guy....sound familiar? I'm on board with replacing Spencer eventually, but franchising him makes a lot of sense. This way we don't HAVE to spend a first round pick at OLB. If an OLB falls to us at 14, we can take him and groom him for a year. We don't HAVE to take an old at 14 if Spencer is there, but we could if he's the BPA.
This brings me to the weak spots of the team. The Cowboys were terrible at CB. More specifically,T-New was terrible. I agree that he does need to be replaced, but who can replace him. I see Routt as the perfect candidate to replace T-New. Is Routt better than Newman? YES. It could even be argued that Routt is better than Scandrick or Jenkins. I've seen lots of different posts on several websites looking at Routt's stats. Some are pretty good. Some are not(obviously leading CBs in penalties is not good). I do think he is an upgrade over Newman though. I think people were judging Routt based on the huge contract he had, but he will be lucky to receive half of what he got in Oakland. If you can sign Routt for a reasonable deal (4 years 25 million seems like a good place to start negotiations), I think it's a smart signing. Don't break the bank for him, but I would like to sign him. Let's helps improve a position of need heading into the draft. If we don't replace Newman, we are almost forcing ourselves to address CB in round one of the draft. If we sign Routt, we don't HAVE to draft a CB at pick 14, but we can if he's the BPA. This draft is extremely deep at CB, and I think the Cowboys will draft 2 in the first five rounds. If we could do that, we could have Routt and Jenkins Starting. Scandrick as 3rd CB and a couple of rookies easing in to the rotation at the 4th and 5th CB spot. It's easy to say that Newman sucks, but you do have to have a replacement for him. Routt is better than Newman, and he's a solid player. He's not a pro bowler, but that 's ok.
The major "splash" I would make in free agency this year is Chris Myers, the center for Houston. This was a huge weakness for us last year, and we cannot afford to not address this in FA. Myers isn't a sexy free agent pickup because he is a center, but acquiring him would turn a weakness to a strength. If we don't replace Costa through free agency, we would HAVE to draft an interior olineman early. It's ok to draft an olineman early if he is the BPA on your board, but you never want to have huge needs going into the draft. To finish up free agency I resign Robinson if the price is right.
So that's it for my off season plan. It's not sexy, but it is logical. It probably will disappointment a lot of people, but it makes a lot of sense. Its ok to not have 22 Pro Bowlers on your team, but it's not ok to have below average guys at a few positions. It's ok to want to get rid of some players, but you better have a replacement player ready. Not resigning Spencer would just create a huge need on a team with more important needs. I want to use free agency to fill in my huge holes, so that way I can use the draft to find a Pro Bowl type player at any positions. If we use free agency to fill in the needs, the draft becomes a whole lot easier when we truly can just draft the highest rated player on our board.
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Spencer is ok but not worth franchise money. If you are going pay big money use it for Mario Williams or Calis Campbell .
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 14, 2012 7:41 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
+3 i agree
franchising Spencer makes zero sense & the upside of Upshaw, Ingram or Mercilus (in a trade down) comes a heck of alot cheaper then $9million a year. they could find 2 or 3 decent FAs & you said it best about Dallas not being 1 player away so why would you want to give half of the cap to a underachiever?
i’d take Curry or the kid from Troy over bringing Spencer back on the tag or even at a cheaper price.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
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A big yes on Campbell!
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 14, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Arizona isn't letting him go
I would love Campbell, but it isn’t happening. I would also love to win the lotto, but that’s not happening either. Arizona is not letting Campbell get away. If they can’t resign him, they are franchising him.
prolly right but a man can dream right?
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 14, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
we haven't had a big threat on the left side since Tolbert and Ellis
having Spears and Spencer over there is not working, at least we need an upgrade on Spears. We really have 4 obvious needs. Franchising Spencer would be a good option because if you let him go a Mario Williams or Campbell will slice that $20M spend you have in half. Chances are you can fill 2 holes with the draft and 1 with free agency.
If you franchise him will he play like Free did this year? In that case let him go. If you don’t it might cost $10-12M to replace him.
Campbell
Is awesome which is why Arizona won’t let him go. They will franchise him. Again, this is an unrealistic idea for free agency. I know my post wasn’t exciting or fun, but it was logical and likely to happen. The Campbell thing is not going to happen. Come back at me with a more realistic replacement. You’re doing what a lot of fans are doing which is saying get rid of Spencer, but you aren’t coming up with a solution. Mario Williams isn’t happening. He doesn’t want any part of a 3-4. Franchising Spencer isn’t about the money. It’s about buying yourself another year to figure out what to do at OLB.
Nobody is going to pay Spencer franchise-type money
The Cowboys probably floated this thing to make Spencer and his agent feel all warm and tingly inside: “Look, they’re thinking about franchising you, they really want you back – I’m sure that’ll help us drive up the price.”
Dallas will let Spencer test the market, where he’ll find that his ceiling is between 5-6.5 million per year, at which point the Cowboys will make him a similar offer.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 14, 2012 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
though projecting other people’s intentions is error prone
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
i agree he's not worth more then 3 or 4 million at tops.
he’s become a progress stopper & at best he’s just an average guy
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
$5 or $6 million still doesnt make sense when he can be replaced in the 1st or 2nd rounds
to me 6 million is close enough to the franchise tag price to scare me off. this team is more then 1 average player away to not start seeing what Butler, Albright or a draft pick can do..
Spencer doesn’t improve the pass rush at all & thats one of the biggest problems with this defense.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Smh
If your content with franchising a guy who admitted mailing it in, a guy who disappears for weeks at a time, who alot of the time is invisible during the games. Doesn’t show the intensity, or hunger needed as a role player on defense then sure franchise him and make his day by paying a mediocre player at best one of he highest paid OLB in the league. Would be idiotic to franchise Spencer.
6-8 sacks? He barely can get 6 with an avg of 4 over his career I believe. Besides his mediocre contributions to the team, which by he way he is good at he run not great he does nothing great, he lacks intensity, hunger, drive that energizes a team.
I could see Whitney Marcelius, Ingram, Vinny Curry, Perry all providing those things necessary to give a jolt to our squad over Spencer, especially at franchise money. That money needs to be used in a way better way than franchising Spencer.
Robinson, Carl Nicks, Grubbs, Meyers, Finnergan, Tracy Porter I would target with that money all before Spencer. Besides there is a good chance of selecting a pass rusher between rounds 1-2 that can contribute as it is a deep class at the top.
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 8:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
But then you pretty much have to pick an OLB in round one of the draft
…Going into the draft having to pick a certain position never works out. If we franchise Spencer, it only is for one year. We could still draft one of those guys and let him develop for a year.
we have Butler & theres 2 or 3 prospects that could offer more upside then Spencer in the 2nd round.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
No you don't
You can also pick one in round 2
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i was impressed with Marcelius
i think this guys going to rise on draft boards the closer the draft gets
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I'm really down on Merclius myself
He has very stiff hips. Lack of lateral agility is what limits Spencer from becoming a great pass rusher in the first place. Beyond that, Merclius also struggles with leverage and ball awareness. Regardless, tight hips are an incredibly bad thing for any NFL player, let alone someone who rushes the passer. To upgrade over Spencer, it’s pretty much Melvin Ingram or bust.
Mercilus doesnt run hot or cold & can move way better then Spencer, not even a close comparision
i also believe Upshaw is better then some people are giving him credit for but i’d be fine with Ingram if everything checks out.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I'm ok with that...
I’m ok with giving Spencer a deal like that. I just think that it would be a terrible idea to let him walk. We already have a lot of holes on this team, and we don’t need to create another area of need. I want all the holes(areas with subpar play in 2011) filled with at least average players before the draft. Plug our holes in free agency, and our draft will be so much better. I don’t want to go into the draft NEEDING to get a certain position. I just want to see who falls to us, and I want to be able to draft the highest rated guy on my board. If we don’t bring Spencer back, we probably HAVE to spend our first pick on a pass rusher.
Whats wrong with a pass rusher in round 1?
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 9:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nothing is wrong with it...
…in fact I would love it if Ingram or Coples was the pick there. But it’s wrong if you HAVE to pick an OLB in round one. What happens if Coples and Ingram are gone by pick 14. Then you still HAVE to pick an OLB, and there will be more talented guys on the board. If Ingram falls to the Cowboys at 14, pick. But what do we do if he’s not there?
In your case your suggesting
Ingram and Coples are they only pass rushers worthy in the first round? I would have to disagree. I believe there are a handful of pass rushers in the first 2 rounds that can come in and make an impact.
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 9:14 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
+1
I believe there are a handful of pass rushers in the first 2 rounds that can come in and make an impact.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Whats wrong with a pass rusher in round 1?
Coples, Marcelius, Perry, Ingram, Upshaw, Curry are all 1-2 round players that are very talented pass rushers. And posses the intangibles that are lacking in Spencers play.
If Nicks is signed, and say Tracy Porter, or Routt, or Finnergan. We have addressed G and CB and would be able to afford to take a BPA at positions OLB, CB, S, DL. I don’t see a problem with that
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 9:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
$9 mil is too much and I am for keeping Spencer,
but if we are going to spend that kinda money I’d rather them go out and get Nicks and sign maybe Lawson as a stop gap.
Could well be the plan
Sounds like they’ll have close to $24 mil to spend on FAs after all the restructurings/cuts happen. Franchise Spencer and have about $16 mil left-enough for Laurent, a C/G (not Nicks/Grubbs) and a CB (not Grimes/Carr/Finnegan). Not sexy but …
by DB23 on Feb 14, 2012 9:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
2d tier CB
Routt, Porter, Marshall from AZ … any of those 2d tier guys will do. Scandrick stays at nickel and your draft pick takes Ball’s spot for starters and can work his way up.
I like Wells from GB as a vet C.
Even if your draft pick is round 1?
Say Kirkpatrick, or Jenkins? I wouldn’t mind those players at a reasonable price. But not at starter money price. And if they gave Scandrick starter money they are gonna try to get as close to that deal as possible. If that’s the case don’t fool around with 2nd tier just go after Finnergan and draft a CB in round 3 to be your 4th work his way up over time and bring up Mario Butler as 5
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 10:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
available $s
I’m working under the scenario that they tag Spencer and they can’t afford a top CB in FA.
I’m actually pretty interested in Marshall—Ray Horton said he was the Cards D MVP. Played outside CB, slot CB and S; 80+ tackles, 3 INTs, 2 sacks. He could be a guy that you play at FS if you have Jenkins/Scandrick/Kirkpatrick at CB, or you could draft a S early and play Marshall at CB—like the versatility (at $4-5 mil/year of course).
Hope we dont tag Spencer
But Marshall seems like he would be a great fit. Would play his role that would allow us to still take a CB early.
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 10:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Routts well worth what Scandrick got paid
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
spencer on the books for $9 mil
Is absolutely crazy. He’s not a hardworker and is average at rushing the passer. Sure he can stop the run but we need to either sign him at the $4-$6 mil range or if someone wants to pay up more…let him walk. Why would you want to waste $9 mil on him? I agree with O.C.C. that this is likely a smokescreen for Spencer and his agent.
Myers is a system center best suited for Shanahan or Kubiak offenses. He’s smaller than Costa but has better technique and smarts. I think we need somone a little bit stronger than Myers.
Routt would be a great pickup if the price is right…I’m all for signing him. He can press, he’s fast, has good size and he’s physical. Conerbacks like that are worth collecting. IMO you almost need a small army of CBs the way the league is and with how injury prone our two starters were last year. We absolutely cannot have anymore Frank Walker and Alan Ball types.
by Ramos on Feb 14, 2012 9:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Myers would fit
JG actually prefers smaller quicker guys on the line. I think Myers would be a great fit. We HAVE to upgrade at center.
He does like smaller quicker guys...
But he’s been in 1 system his whole career. From what i hear where i live…he’s the #1 priority for the Texans. I would prefer an older vet for a season stopgap so they could teach Nagy or Kowalski.
Routt
All depends on the money. I personally am not for him but at a cheap price which I doubt will happen sure why not. He’s a significant upgrade over Newman and Ball. It’s a sticky situation because if we get him for too much money can we then still take a CB in the first 2 rounds to play special teams and be the 4th CB? Scandrick is getting paid starter money so he will be the 2 or 3. Jenkins is our best CB and IMO a very good CB when his counter parts play just good enough. And if Routt is signed for too much money no way he’s playing ST and being the 4 CB.
If we are gonna play in the CB market then don’t play around go get Cortland Finnergan so there are no questions at CB from 1-3 draft another in rounds 4-6 and let Mario Butler compete for a spot. That way rounds 1-4 you can go in no order OLB, G, C, DL with BPA
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 9:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Routt is an upgrade over Scandrick or Jenkins
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Jenkins is a good CB IMO
Had a down year IMO due to lack of trust and belief in what was around him which hindered his confidence but he always played hard and fought for the ball. Other than that he’s been a very good CB.
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 10:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Routt Would unquestionably be the 2nd corner
and He’s damn good in that role. We will be lucky if we get him at 5-6 mill a year, and we should all be very happy about that.
Routts size gives them somone that matches up with the bigger WRs
his speed is great & should be an imediate contributor
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Rookie cornerbacks pretty much always struggle significantly
It’s similar to wide receivers, except cornerbacks can’t rely on raw talent the way wide receivers can. The position is based an awful lot off technique and nuances. Signing a free agent could be justified. It doesn’t have to be a long-term deal. Besides, after the injuries last year, it makes even more sense. With the rookie salary cap, the guy isn’t going to be taking starter money regardless.
Corner is a mess
I think we have to sign at least one guy in free agency, and we need to draft at least two. I think rounds two and three will have some solid corners. I don’t know about waiting to address corner til round 4 and 6. I feel like there will be a big run on corners in rounds 2 and 3. We need to get one by round three and maybe one later in the draft.
Oh I agree
My premise is based on instead of signing Routt if we sign Cortland Finnergan instead then the need to draft a CB in the first 3 rounds aren’t pressing. But if Finnergan isn’t signed yes a CB has to be taken early and possibly often. Which leaves the dilemma how much to pay for Routt? I would rather sign Finnergan. If not than sign a 3rd/4th CB at that price and draft one in round 1 or 2 then also later in the draft. I just don’t believe Routt will come cheap
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 10:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
I guess I’m saying Routt if the price is right. Routt or a corner like him. If we could land a top CB that would be great. If not, get a 2nd tier guy such as Routt. If we are able to get Finnergan, we would be much improved. You can never have enough CBs in this league especiall with how much Jenkins is hurt. When healthy, I like Jenkins, but we can’t be certain that he will be healthy.
Touchè
All comes down to the price if we don’t get a top CB. But as for center I’m a believer in Kilowski. I think we have our center for the future on the team which is why I’m really in the Carl Nicks camp or Ben Grubbs. I think signing Nicks or Grubbs, swapping Costa for Killer K, retaining Kosier but drafting a G maybe round 3-4 to compete is a significant upgrade to the line.
But again that all depends on what happens in FA
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 10:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Be careful
I like what I’ve seen from Killer K, but we have to be careful. He has seen limited reps, and we were saying the exact same thing about Costa last year at this time. The Cowboys tried to go with an unproven guy at Center last year, and it was a disaster. I hope that Arkin, Nagy, or K is the answer on the line, but we can not risk it again this year. We need a veteran in there this year to anchor that line.
Callahan will fix the OL situation
i think were all 100% positive Garrett will bring a vet Guard or Center in FA but players like Arkin, nagy or Killer K can develope a lot in year 2.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Never was high on Costa and dont know where the pro Costa fan club came from
But I agree we have to be careful. But if you have vets such as Free, Kosier, Nicks and a stud like Smith around any center better than Costa I think you will be fine. But only if killer K as you said proves he’s can anchor the line
by CowboyWay on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
i think Center is more important then Guard
i also think Costa would make a way better Guard then Center
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Don't dismiss franchising Spencer out of hand
As Bill in DC points out in comments on another thread:
“That is not the 2012 cap space
It’s the amount teams were under the 2011 cap that can be brought forward into 2012. It does not account for 2012 contracts/dead money.
After all is said and done the Cowboys are around 12.6 million under the projected 2012 cap (which we don’t really know what it will be, anywhere between 120-125 million) + teams can ‘borrow’ cap space from 2013 (which they should do because the cap in 2013 is going to take a big bump).
E Tan! E Epi Tan!
by Bill in DC on Feb 13, 2012 6:47 AM CST"
There could be sound capology reasons to spend an extra 3-4 mil this season to “date” Spencer versus popping for a ring (signing bonus) and marrying him for 4 years.
Now, I’ll reverse course and counter HH’s basic assumption- I don’t believe the ’boys have to invest a top pick if Spencer walks. I like that they went with youth on the Oline and took a risk to move forward. Problem was Romo could have been killed.
The advantage of OLB is nobody dies if the slot goes JAG or sub-par for a year. Spencer just doesn’t have the motor I would like to see and I hope he’s not a part of the team two years from now. If they can’t sign him at JAG numbers, let him go- we’ll find someone else that wants to play football.
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My biggest fear
We draft Upshaw and he is Spencer 2.0. Safe pick. Good against the run. Not dynamic.
my biggest fear is they draft him at 14, in 20's i wouldn't have problem
i wouldn’t be excited but i wouldn’t as pissed as in the firts scenarios, he is not a top 15 player
This is flawed logic
You would be upset if we get him at 14, but not at 20? You need to get a guy in round one that you’re excited about. Don’t settle. You pick at 14. Let’s get an impact player that you love. Don’t just trade down and settle for an ok player who is safe.
what if there's on one you love at 14?
Risky, but trade down into the 20s, get a 2d rounder, and come away with something like V.Curry, B.Boykin and K.Zeitler and plug 3 holes at OLB, CB and G … there’s that siren call!
i'm using your realistic approach
of course i would love a player to be excited about in the first but it’s somethin i can’t manage, i’ll settle, if a perfect world coples wouldn’t have motor concerns and i would trade up for him but that’s not going to happen
right now the only player i like who possibly could fall is david decastro,
by the way i didn’t say 20 but 20’s, upshaw is another spencer so a late 20 is ok, he would produce like him and i wouldn’t call him a bust because in the late first that’s what you get a solid player not more
Except thats where spencer was drafted and everyone and their mother calls him a bust.
Spencer was drafter at 26ish I believe.
Everyone including me
Calls Spencer a bust when you trade up to get him at 26 instead of taking LaMarr Woodley.
By the way had the Cowboys not traded away that 2nd Rd Pick to Philly, they still would’ve had their choice of Spencer or Woodley.
That 2nd Rd pick they gave to Philly turned out to be (after the Kevin Kolb trade) Dominique Rodgers Cromartie + 2012 2nd Rd Pick.
We traded up for Spencer, and in the process helped the Eagles out. If we did that deal to take Woodley, fine. But SPENCER?!?
They should have stayed put.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 3:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i have never called spencer a bust
until last year i was supporter and even now when i think he would be better in other team i don’t call him a bust
saying Upshaw is Spencer 2.0 is just your opinion & zero to do with the facts.
Spencer was never worth a 1st round pick & i dont think the same could be said about Upshaw so far. the combine will tell a lot about Upshaw
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Great line
Bob Sturm had something on his twitter about this situation. I don’t remember the exact wording, but let me paraphrase.
Are you going to use your spare tire on the tire with a leak (OLB) or are you going to use it on the tires that have blow outs (interior oline and secondary).
Maybe they
should gamble and let Spencer test the market and offer him the best contract. I dont believe any team is going to give him franchise money, so act like the patriots and let him test the market and pay him slightly above market price.
If they slap an unexclusive franchise tag on Spencer
He’ll be free to negotiate with an another team. If the Cowboys don’t match his offer, they get draft picks.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 3:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
IMO it would be roughly the same as exclusive,
as I am doubtful that there is a team out there that would be willing to part with two 1st round picks to sign Spencer away from us, although that would be nice if it happened.
Cliff Avril
The money spent on Spencer would be better spent of Cliff Avril. Play him at LB
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 14, 2012 11:48 PM CST reply actions

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