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Cowboys Free Agent Anthony Spencer: How Other Fans See Him

Anthony Spencer bringing down another running back.

During free agency there are always a handful of names that make the rounds in every NFL fanbase. This year, some of those names are Mario Williams, Carl Nicks, Cortland Finnegan and Calais Campbell, and perhaps a quarterback or two. Those are the guys that every fanbase is talking and dreaming about.

Yet those top tier free agents will only be able to sign with one team, and other teams will still need to fill gaps in their roster with other free agents - second tier free agents whose names may not carry quite that allure.

One of those free agents this year is the Cowboys own Anthony Spencer.

To say that fan opinion on Anthony Spencer is divided may qualify as the understatement of the year. The recent discussion about potentially franchising Spencer once again highlighted how much opinions about Anthony Spencer differ. Some argued that franchising Spencer is a good idea, others argued that it's high time he left, many more were caught somewhere in between these extreme positions.

In free agency, the grass is almost always greener on the other side, so today we're going to take a look at what fans of other teams think about Anthony Spencer.

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The following quotes are taken from the frontpages of various SBNation team sites.

The Jets site, Gang Green Nation, devoted an entire post to Spencer titled "Potential Jets: Anthony Spencer":

Looking at Pro Football Focus' numbers on Spencer's sacks, hits, and pressures suggests he is an extremely productive pass rusher. Since he became a starter in 2009, he disrupted the quarterback on 11.7% of plays he was a pass rusher. That is really good. By comparison, Jason Pierre-Paul of the Giants is doing so at a 9.5% clip in this monster year he is having.

Does this make Spencer an elite pass rusher? Probably not. There is certainly a mitigating factor. Playing across from Ware probably helps him a lot. Other teams are usually sending every extra blocker they have at Ware and away from Spencer. Spencer also has lined up against right tackles a lot, who tend to be less nimble or productive as pass protectors. He also has a really good pass rushing nose tackle in Jay Ratliff drawing blockers up the middle. Spencer is a guy who gets a lot of favorable matchups.

I think Spencer is a very well rounded linebacker. He is probably a better pass rusher than his sack stats would suggest and not quite as good as the deeper numbers would indicate. He is still likely better at getting to the quarterback than anybody the Jets have.

The article closes with a simple poll, asking Jets fans; "Should the Jets have interest in Anthony Spencer to start at outside linebacker?"

The surprising result: 67% of 733 users voted "YES".

On the Bills site, Buffalo Rumblings, they are looking for an upgrade at the Sam Linebacker position, and Spencer is one of the lead options.

Buffalo can certainly look to upgrade at Sam, though it's not the priority that the Jack position is. In free agency, Baltimore's Jarret Johnson is an ideal Sam in a hybrid defense. Johnson is essentially a more talented version of Kelsay. Dallas' Anthony Spencer is probably the most talented player available capable of manning the Sam linebacker position. San Francisco's Ahmad Brooks and Cincinnati's Manny Lawson would also be upgrades over Kelsay. Chris Gocong, Matt Roth and Rob Ninkovich are also available, though they aren't really upgrades over Kelsay.

The Chargers are in dire need of pass rushers and Bolts From The Blue recently ran this article: "San Diego Chargers: Shopping for Free Agent Pass Rushers"

[Anthony Spencer is ] the "bargain" option of the class. He's a former 1st round pick and he played for a number of years in Wade Phillips' defense with the Cowboys. He's 28 years old, so he should have a number of good years left in him. His career high in sacks is 6, which he's done twice and his career high in forced fumbles came last year. His higher tackle totals would tell you that he's been to be more of a complete defender than some of the other players here.

He's good in pursuit, he's a good tackler, a little limited in coverage and he's made progress in his pass rushing game. He's most likely look for a team where he can continue to play the position he's familiar with and because the Chargers would fit that bill they wouldn't have to sacrifice too much cap space to get him.

The Dolphins are another 3-4 team that is always looking for an upgrade to their pass rush. The Phinsider is a little less enthusiastic about Spencer:

Anthony Spencer(OLB): A solid, unspectacular player. Another Cowboy OLB is more well known for rushing the passer, Spencer has been solid at stuffing the run. He's merely average at pass rushing, but he's still a solid OLB compliment [sic]. Just don't ask him to be your top pass rusher.

Turf Show Times, the Rams' site, isn't a big fan either:

Anthony Spencer- Though he hasn't been a great pass rusher in his career, he is a very effective run stuffer from the 3-4 SLB spot.

This following three quotes are taken from the Fanpost sections

"Peyton, Peyton, Peyton!" - The Phinsider (Dolphins)

I know a lot of people will hate the idea of more Cowboy retread and I don’t blame you, but Spencer was the Cowboys 1st round pick in 2007 under Parcell. Spencer was originally selected as a defensive end out of college with the hopes of making him an OLB in Parcell’s 3-4 defense. The experiment did not succeed in Dallas and I think the reason is Spencer is not an 3-4 OLB he in fact his better suited to play DE in 4-3 defense (just like Wake would benefit by the same switch). To further back up my claim I have dug up some old scouting reports on Spencer, take a look.

Free Agents vs. NFL Draft - Defensive End - Field Gulls (Seahawks)

Anthony Spencer - Cowboys - He puts up decent number for DE/OLB, 6 sacks and 4 forced fumbles. He had a couple of really poor games in 2011, but overall is a good/experienced option that may not come cheap, but less that top two. In 2010, Spencer had 5 sacks and 2 FF, 2009 had 6 sacks and 2 FF... consistent that way.

An Offseason Plan: Getting Back On Top - Acme Packing Company (Packers)

Never liked the idea of getting a former Cowboy, but Spencer is undoubtedly is a good OLB who won't have to make any transition into our scheme. Spencer has 6.0, 5.0, and 6.0 sacks in the last 3 seasons, and has 8 forced fumbles over that span. He'll need a decent deal, but won't cost a fortune: 3 years, 13 mil, 4.3 mil/yr.

One thing is sure: If the Cowboys don't re-sign Spencer in whatever shape or form, he'll sign with another team. And the chances are he could be greeted with more enthusiasm by his new fans than he would be if he re-signs in Dallas. Or will he?

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Just getting rid of a guy and assuming someone else is better is not always a good thing. Not saying the same will happen with Spencer, but hopefully they are at least somewhat sure they are getting an upgrade if they pull the trigger and let him go.

by Jace M on Feb 14, 2012 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

After watching that defense last year......

adequate would be a major improvement. Spencer, in my opinion, is adequate with the other needs on the team. It would be different if we didn’t need CBs, DEs, a S(or two), and an ILB.

by Jace M on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Signing him wasn't a mistake.

Rather, the agreed upon terms were erroneous.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The packers sure think he'd be cheap

3 years, 13 mil, 4.3 mil/yr. I was thinking 6 million a year

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

just thinking that

If turns out that’s all it’d take to keep him, do it; you can still look for an upgrade, but at least you do not have a big 0 at LOLB.

by DB23 on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, notice that no one wants him for 9 million.

Except for some people on this board, for some reason.

by BigDumbFace on Feb 14, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, it's difference between having a guy as a one year rental and giving him a multi-year deal.

Was anyone really advocating multi-years at 9 mil per?

There's always money in the banana stand.

by ary201 on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess they weren't saying multi-year.

We can scratch that part, then. Still, no one should want him at 9 million if it’s for one year. You will have overpaid as he will not produce like a guy that should make 9 million.

by BigDumbFace on Feb 14, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Reason Unknown.

What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 14, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

You can

franchise a player at the tag price, and agree to a lower multi year figure later. It’s done all the time.

by jevans1729 on Feb 14, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I know this.

If that were done, then obviously we would have to see that new contract to say if it were at a fair price. I’m simply against paying Spencer 9 million for any one season. If that were to happen, we’d be spending too much.

by BigDumbFace on Feb 14, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

True

But we can franchise Spencer and then get him to agree to a $5 or 6 million deal with incentives like 10 sacks nets you $750,000, $250,000 per fumble over eight fumbles this season, $1,000,000 for making the Pro Bowl, and $1,000,000 for either Pro Bowl MVP, League Defensive MVP, or Super Bowl MVP. Hopefully we aren’t throwing in $5,000,000 million for ending Eli’s career. I want him crying after losing at Jerryworld when he throws the game winning pick 6.

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by Jessy S on Feb 14, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

saw that -- I'd take Almost Anthony for those dollars

but probably not for more than 15 mil over the same time frame

by WA_Cowboy on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

If he signs for that

may as well keep him here. I’d be willing to give him $5-6M per season. $4.3M is an insult, even for Spencer.

by inwittenitrust on Feb 14, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Back loaded

I doubt the market goes higher than 5.5 a year for Spencer. I’d sign him to something averaging 5.5 over 5 w/ most of the weight distributed in the last 3 years.

This would allow us to use the future cap expansions as a form of credit, save maximum cap space, and build around what is already established.

I really wish t-shirt fans would wise up and appriciate a little more exactly what Spence brings to the table.

by mfoster on Feb 14, 2012 3:29 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Fun post!

Someone will want to overpay for Spencer, as long as its not the Cowboys.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Feb 14, 2012 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

I have been a supporter of Spencer on BtB

I also have stated that I do not think that he wants to resign in Dallas due to the negative attitude the fans and media have had towards him. The negative comments about him are not just kept to print and video but are said to his face by many overealous fans with a negative attitude towards him when he goes out in public in Dallas.

I know there are going to be many teams that will want him that will have a fanbase that will welcome him into their community. I know he does not expect to get 9mil a year and he is fine with that.

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders

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by Birddog26 on Feb 14, 2012 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

What will really suck......

is if we find out, should he leave, that “Almost Anthony” is better than whatever else we end up getting. Just because a guy is not what he should have been considering his first round status does not mean that something better is available. I’m not even saying the guy is that good. I just think that perceptions can be skewed because of what his draft position was. Who knows, perhaps we already have that guy on the roster. Could it be Victor Butler? Is somebody better than Spencer hitting FA and can we get him? I don’t know. Its not like guys we have in say Ball and Newman that it is known can be improved over.

by Jace M on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Thing about that is..........

I don’t care where he goes. If they don’t win and he doesn’t live up to there expectations, he is going to catch crap from the fans. The expectations come along with being a 1st round pick and a Dallas Cowboy. Combine those 2 thngs and it makes for very high expectations. Fair or not thats just the way it is.

Personally, I’ve never had a “huge” problem with Spencer. I think for the most part, he does what is asked of him. He doesn’t rush the passer on every down like Ware does.

I also totally dispise the fan that insist on giving atheletes a hard time when they are out in public. If you want to fuss at them when they are at the game then thats one thing. But when the guy is out in public trying to live his life, thats another thing.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 14, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah right on!

And just imagine what someone like Romo must go through?

I finally got NFLn and I was so excited to watch it. Well I see they are going to talk about Romo and his golf and other things. I sh%t you not, the lady goes “and Tiger and Romo finished 17th. Another agonizing defeat for Romo” Which they then lead right into the Bradshaw comments.

I swear do these people, ugh, like what the?! Wasn’t Brees or soemone else in the golf game too? Ugh.

Anyway Ill never watch that channel unless a game is on or its actually a program not, just there “total access” show.

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by thebigham on Feb 14, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers, Bellichick and Harbuagh played also

If you did not watch it, you missed that Harbaugh’s caddy was Alex Smith.

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders

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by Birddog26 on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I heard that.

It just angers me Romo finishing 17th in a golf tourny and they play it up like him choking again!

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by thebigham on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I never came so close to breaking a tv

than I did last night watching NFLNetwork

1) That chick, Michelle Beisner says puts the finishing tied for 17th on Romo

2) They re-air Ahmad Bradshaw’s comments about Romo and how Cowboys fans and Cowboys players don’t believe in him.

3) After Charles Davis and Heath Evans defend Romo, they proceed to speculate whether or not Jerry would push him aside for Peyton Manning.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 3:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I have had NFL net for a few years and I barely even watch it anymore!!

The way they go on about Romo and the Cowboys sickens me. It has been that way as long as I have NFL net. I love the NFL Redzone channel,but NFL net is something I rarely watch anymore.

Here is to hoping we win our next Super Bowl before I have to start "washing that gray right out of my hair"!!!

by NVCowboy4Life on Feb 14, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

so you saw it too!

I flipped before it got to #3. I will only watch re-airing, countdowns, and combine coverage.

I flipped!

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by thebigham on Feb 14, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Rich Eisen runs the 40 yard dash every year

Watch for that.

As for number three, They want that because it means that it will be brother vs brother twice a season.

Seriously, I am proud of Tony for his finish at Pebble Beach. Hope he makes the US Open this year.

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by Jessy S on Feb 14, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

You know what? I hope everyone on this team is hearing all this

and it pumps them up and we go on to beat the ever loving **** out of every team in the league

by somebodyquiet on Feb 14, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly though

There are some players that don’t really care about Tony Romo’s golfing. Granted I support him, but some teammates likely hate him because he is always trying to make the US Open and isn’t spending enough time being focused on the Cowboys.

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by Jessy S on Feb 14, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Gotta go w/ Terry on this

one, honestly Romo has improved every single season, he’s cut way down on his turnovers perhaps he’ll improve in that category even more next season n u think he isn’t spending enough time being focused on his team lol.. The guy played thru fractured ribs, broken hand, played w/ an incompetent c etc imo he’s not part of the team’s problems but they do need to figure out a better way to protect him, get a stronger running game n fix that D.

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by DarkKnight88 on Feb 15, 2012 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

How and why would teammates "hate" him for golfing?

I just think thats ridiculous.. Tony has been a leader on this team and will contiue to do so.. This was shown plain as day last offseason when he got one of the biggest player organized practices together..

The reality of the matter is one simple fact, he’s the QB of our beloved Cowboys.. Anything and everything he does will be under a microscope by sports tmz (espn) and all other media sources becuase it gets them press.. People either love or hate our team and the haters LOVE to hear anything negative..

by AmericasTeamm on Feb 15, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

Did you miss the part where Rodgers and Brees and Harbaugh were golfing too?

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by thebigham on Feb 15, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

It's really sad.

I don’t know how you feel about him, but I think the same of Alan Ball. He’s really outplayed the expectations for a 7th round utility db, but gets held to the standard of a second round pick. These players deserve more respect from their own fans.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

So your saying we should expect him to suck?

Because he is a 7th round pick?

Sorry – that’s not the way it works. He has been terrible the last two years and there is not room on the roster for someone who is bad at every position you put him on. Time to move on. They got good value out of him for a couple of years.

by livemontana on Feb 14, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

You expect him to play 4th corner and third free safety

These are positions you need on your roster, and you can’t invest heavily in. He fills both, is inexpensive and plays at our above the expected level for a fourth corner or third free safety.

Oh, no! He can’t start for Newman! Wonderful. That’s not why he’s here. He doesn’t suck. Consider your perspective.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 4:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Next man up

at this point, should have upside. This isn’t a team that has achieved anything. I like Alan Ball, but there’s a very good chance the 4th CB is going to play a vital role next season (as every year) and I don’t want more of the same.

There's always money in the banana stand.

by ary201 on Feb 15, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

utility player

He has played his role to the best of his ability, which is clearly mediocre. I have a difficult time being critical of a player that nobody should have been expecting much out of from the beginning.

by P.N.Westernboysfan on Feb 14, 2012 4:59 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Are you calling him a mediocre corner?

Or a mediocre fourth corner? Because I think he’s pretty good at covering fourth receivers.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 5:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Dont expect him to suck but you cant expect him to be shutdown either.

Its a matter of improvement that keeps players drafted in the 6-7th rounds on the roster. I’ve said this before about ball I believe the coaching staffs puts alot of the faults of balls on his coaching and have seen enough improvement to give him more time. He will be resigned for cheap unless someone overpays but there is no need to for him. He has the measuables and he can be useful if he has the right coaching.

by Sado44 on Feb 14, 2012 6:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Lame fan culture on display Coty.....

it doesn’t matter where you get drafted or at all. You can play or not, the odds of success out of college does go down the further out you might be drafted. YOU DON’T LOWER the performance expectation based on where they were drafted.

Sure there are development projects and Ball was one of them, it’s the final product that matters. He should have been cut this year and Josh Thomas who they let go should still be here.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay. You got me.

Josh Thomas is clearly far superior. That’s definitely why his inability to provide safety depth and general lack of fundamental corner skills prevented him from contributing to anything in 2011. You’ve become a broken record on this page. You’re echoing the popular opinion of those who don’t understand, and arbitrarily defending it as if you crafted it yourself.

Take a look at the 4th corners around the league.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 7:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Josh Thomas

1 tackle in 9 games for the bottom 10 in all defensive categories Carolina Panthers.

Alan Ball

37 tackles, 6 passes defended, 1 interception in 16 games for the Cowboys.

Ball is 4 inches taller and comparable in agility. Both were productive in college. Ball is marginally slower in the 40.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 8:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

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by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

and I hate the idea of a player being such a candy ass that comments on a blog cause him to flee to another city

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by Seanrude on Feb 15, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

The point isn't posts on a blog, it is getting in the players face away from the game, in a public setting.

Like if he is out with his family for dinner, and being rude and obnoxious, repeatedly.

by Rena on Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

finish the Oline rebuild

by yehti on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Lets not forget these fan run blogs

that are stating what they think Spencer is worth. This has no bearing at all on what he will actually get. Somebodys going to pay big money for the guy. Right or wrong.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM CST reply actions  

I'm for keeping him if we can for cheap

not for 9 mil/year. I’m sure the Redskins will overpay for him like the Giants and ‘Skins did for Canty and Bowen. I just hope we don’t let him go and he becomes a superstar elsewhere lol

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by ScottB1985 on Feb 14, 2012 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

Its not going to be the Skins this time.

They have two young studs at OLB in Orakpo and Kerrigan.

We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''

What else makes a strong leader?

"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.

"That's' what we're going to do.''

by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty crazy.

Some people seem to think you can’t have two OLB that can get sacks…

I understand there are nuances in schemes, but it IS possible.

by BigDumbFace on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Skins turned out to get a fair deal on Bowen.

Given his production this year, I wish we would’ve kept him for that price. 1 good player is better than 2 ok players (spears and coleman – basically the same asking price that bowen got).

I agree with you that Canty was overpaid was though. I would be ok with retaining Spencer for a cheap contract.

by somebodyquiet on Feb 14, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm trying to let that one go

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly didn't think Bowen would be so good

he had shown flashes here with us but nothing like what’s he done in DC. Oh wells, at least we got a draft pick out of it

by somebodyquiet on Feb 14, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

all 4.5 were from hatcher

and he was hurt like 4 weeks so i guess it wasn’t that bad

by ratware on Feb 14, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Bowen had 6 sacks
Marcus Spears 1 sack
Hatcher 4.5 sacks

We would’ve paired Hatcher with Bowen with Lissemore rotating in. I have high hopes for Lissemore next season

by somebodyquiet on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

A future player is always better than a current player who can easily be replaced

It made good longterm sense to let Bowen walk and get back a draft pick for him.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 3:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

What's different this time?

Let Spencer walk, take a pick next year.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

not guaranteed to get a comp pick for spencer

i’d rather do a tag and trade with him

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 7:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I really do want to keep Spencer, but for the right price.

Also, if the Cowboys keep Spencer, I think we need to try and get a NT to move Jay Ratliff to DE and then obtain a pass-rushing DE, whether it be through FA or through the draft (could Quinton Coples be an option should the Cowboys be in position to draft him?)

by Nets2410 on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

Just set your price and don't get in a bidding war

If he gets a better one, then let him go. We can get another guy and we have Butler.

There's always money in the banana stand.

by ary201 on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM CST reply actions  

this is the way I would go

I would have a value in mind of what I think Spencer is worth, 4 years at $6M per for instance, and not go over that. I would start by telling Spencer we would love to have you back at 4 years $5M per to set the market and then not go over my original value for him.

I would do the same for every FA in fact. Set a top value and NEVER go over it.

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by TK19 on Feb 14, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Values are subjective.

If Mario Williams breaks his leg next week, Spencer becomes more valuable. He likely won’t play any better, but a contract is a product of forecast production and market conditions.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 5:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think it's that simple

I think we’ll pay a bit extra to beat out other teams if we get a guard or CB that we really like. You never really know what the value is until other teams start bidding and you find out the market, which changes all the time.

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by ScottB1985 on Feb 14, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  


Trick’s greenering this side.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM CST reply actions  

perfect song for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHK9vj0VE7w&feature=related
“You’re Gonna Miss Me When I’m Gone”

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I like it!

What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Clearly, there's a nutrient deficiency in the soil

Because, of the millions of blades present, they’re all equally terrible.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Around here the fence is a metaphor as the future. We, and of course by we, I mean I, always seem to think that tomorrow will be a better day. Not just in football, but this being a football site, I cite a future sight, of a better day. (Got new batteries.)

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by White Wolf on Feb 15, 2012 8:30 AM CST up reply actions  

So, the wee we, as in you and i, unp!ssed.
btw, batteries, well played

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 15, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

It's clear...

from my posts, you can always tell when there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch…is around.

I normally opt to leave my p!ss out of it, sept’n maybe the

When I usta do that, so’em smeld.

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by White Wolf on Feb 15, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Keep Spencer!!!

We are so close to having a complete team, and he is a viable, healthy, valuable option! As fans, we need to thank this guy for his work. If he stays and Cowboys win a SB or two, all you people calling him almost will be kissing his @$$. Give the man credit now!

What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 14, 2012 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

If we win, his haters will say:

“If we cut him, we can repeat!” If an idea us popular enough, it will be perpetuated. Popularity, not accuracy, is the currency of “truth”

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 5:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

only in a democracy that lacks a bill of rights

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Quite the contrary

Freedom of speech and equal rights gives the masses a feeling of equal authority. The uneducated parrot popular beliefs, and truth is born.

A state-controlled media could produce better results, dependent on whom they select to generate the opinions.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

but the establishment of truth is not a democratic process IFF the democracy has a bill of rights that protects minority views from overt coercion by the majority… although how to call ‘truth’ a right in a useful, legal way is beyond me

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Truth's not subjective. Its perception is. Therein lies the source of error.

Truth’s absolute à la drawing breath in vacuum. Denying its reality’ll hurt ya, if not kill ya.

Freedom, speech or otherwise, rights and all the rest are human conceptualizations occasionally worthy of belief and defence, but far from Truths.

… better results … select to generate the opinions”?

Trick’s in the selection (incl item #7).
Uhhh, yeah, been tried before. Didn’t work out so well that time, among others. For all its ignorance, failings and varied challenges, I’ll side with one person, one voice, one vote note, be it in clammor or chorus.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Now it's become a matter of semantics

Truth is personally subjective. Thus the quotes around it when I introduced it. Of course I mean the concept of truth. Of course, also, that when you’re dealing in truth, you’re dealing in propaganda, as you pointed out. This happens when commenting after philosophy class. Nietzsche is the current subject.

by CotySaxman on Feb 14, 2012 7:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Caught the quotes along with your intent and meaning

Still get jumpy at the slightest hint of or advocacy for state, religion or any one group controlling the dissemination of information mechanisms and mediums. Not that you were advocating such, but merely mentioning the alternative in your comment. Trick’s recognizing self’s not superman. Hope the studies are going well.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 15, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Delusional....

you’ve been on the farm too long! He is very close to JAG status, only in Cowboyland does player inflation get like this.

He’s lazy, no impact in critical moments, a poser.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Spencer is underappreciated by most Cowboys fans

Trust me, they will miss him when he’s gone as I highly doubt his replacement will be more productive. I know everyone wants two stud OLBs that can terrorize the passer, but most 3-4 defenses don’t have that luxury and I doubt we’ll find anyone who can put up 10-12 sacks from that position.

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by Terry on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

the question is what is he worth. Do you franchise him?

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by Seanrude on Feb 15, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

franchising Spencer = negotiating ploy

even if they do franchise him, they have until mid-September to work out long term deal that would be MUCH more cap friendly.

by sgitr on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM CST reply actions  

The Chargers and Jets

Will go out and pursue him.

If Dallas was smart, they’d do one of two things:

1) Tag him and trade him to either San Diego New York. One of those teams would be willing to give a 2nd or 3rd pick for him.

2) Slap an unexclusive franchise tag on him: enabling him to negotiate with other teams and giving Dallas the option to match any offer or let him go in exchange for draft picks.

Do I want Spencer here long term? No. Do I hate the man? No. Could I live with Spencer for one more season? Yes. Why? Unless we trade him for picks, I don’t want to go into the draft thinking this team NEEDS to draft a pass rusher. I’d like to go into the draft being able to follow BPA as much as possible.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 3:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

that's probably the best strategy

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"...and the Cowboys...STUN the Bills!"--ESPN MNF

by ScottB1985 on Feb 14, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Really ?
but Spencer was the Cowboys 1st round pick in 2007 under Parcell. Spencer was originally selected as a defensive end out of college with the hopes of making him an OLB in Parcell’s 3-4 defense

….when did this guy start watching football ?

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Feb 14, 2012 3:54 PM CST reply actions  

Wonder if the guy had Bobby Carpenter on the mind.

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Wade Phillips

is pretty forgettable

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Wade Who?

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders

How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.

by Birddog26 on Feb 14, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

When is Jerry going to get it right?

Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys

Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…

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by Antonio S on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hard not to forget

1) A bye week is just as good as a win

2) A punt is just as good as a turnover

3) “I’m at a loss for words” after losing 45-7 to GB.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 4:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

at least Jerry did apologize after the GB game for putting such a faulty

product on the field then canned Wade.

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by ScottB1985 on Feb 14, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Wish he could have done that

The way Vince McMahon fires people.

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by Jessy S on Feb 14, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

don't forget

“suprise!” when he was introduced as the Dallas HC

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Because it's Valentines Day

1) Just wanted to say Happy Valentines Day to all the lady cowboy fans who read this blog.

2) I also have something positive to say about Anthony Spencer-you’re a better first rd pick than Bobby Carpenter.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 4:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Add a solid secondary

and see what Spencer can do then…..I am in the minority on Spencer I say keep him fix the back end of the defense…..his numbers will improve…..as the old song goes do not know what we got until it’s gone. I know he is not the greatest but he is solid.

by BWAREofDWARE94 on Feb 14, 2012 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

5 years......

Hasn’t “improved” in the three years.

No leader, nothing clutch about him. 9 million for that? Nutty.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

IMHO,letting Spencer walk is a mistake,not a popular position,but we all are entitled to our opinions.

I think he is a lot more valuable than given credit for.Being a life-long fan of the Cowboys skews your perception some what. The last 15 years has gotten a lot of us desperate to win that next bling.Every new season we get our hopes up and we are sorely let down at the end. Then players come out and say things like"I mailed it in on some plays". What do they think will happen? I agree with a lot of the frustration.Watching the squelers steal two more rings and this past season with NY winning a game I felt we could have won,kills me. Back on point,letting Spencer walk is a mistake and I hope we don"t make that mistake!! JMHO.

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by NVCowboy4Life on Feb 14, 2012 4:19 PM CST reply actions  

True

I would give him the non-exclusive tag while the franchise tag goes to Laurent Robinson.

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by Jessy S on Feb 14, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Robinson can get a tag.....

that’s only for restricted players or those who signed while once restricted with the team. I’m not 100% sure.

That would be in the order of 10 million a year I believe, way too much. 4 million guaranteed with incentives makes more sense. 15 for 3 years, backend loaded..

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

wow what a trend i see

mediocre teams trying to improve by getting mediocre players.

hopefully Dallas has finally bucked that trend and gets back in the playoffs with something to build on after next year

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 14, 2012 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

I disagree

Dallas’s season tanked because we have below-mediocre CBs, Centers and Guards

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 14, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.....

can’t believe these fans watch the same games I do.

Total inflation talk going on, seen it a million times at this site.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Spencer look like malinvestment.....

Nothing clutch about him.JAG, let others pay for him and get a compensation pick.

Maybe they are trying to inflate the price (talking franchising) knowing this is the end game.

I hope Bennett gets 20 million a year from someone we hate as well.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 5:06 PM CST reply actions  

The real disconnect is his production versus his draft pick

We all want to keep him but at the right price. He went in the first round but is playing like a 3rd rounder. We want him but want to pay him like a 3rd rounder.

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by ScottB1985 on Feb 14, 2012 6:10 PM CST reply actions  

His draft order no longer should matter.....

it’s now unrestricted reality time. Very close to a JAG.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

SPENCER IS OVER appreciated by some here

Butler can probably do an acceptable job at the other areas and seems a better pass rusher,

and a lot cheaper

In todays NFL it is about the pass rush on your front 7.

I am surprised at those still claiming that Spencer hardly rushes the passer. He only rushed about 71 times less in 16 games then Ware did. Against RTs and single blocking.

Yet in the last 13 games he got 3 sacks. And has never gotten more than 6 in a season.

Time for him to hit the road

by burmafrd1944 on Feb 14, 2012 6:16 PM CST reply actions  

He would do better if moved to the other side......

He can’t cover that well either. On another team he might get a look from Ware’s position more or less.

A no impact body most of the time.

by Cwon1 on Feb 14, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

spencer doesn't suck

i think having a better player is not that hard but i also think he gets call his name undeservedly too much

by ratware on Feb 14, 2012 7:18 PM CST reply actions  

You won't find a better OLB for opening day than Spencer

He has his limitations in the pass rush dept but he’s still better than average.If you guys just want a 1st rd pick and second rd pick to walk then fine.Bennett could be replaced but is a great blocker.You have to use draft picks or sign FA’s to replace those guys.As long as the deals weren’t out of whack,I think they should try to resign Spencer and Bennett.

by Quest For Six on Feb 14, 2012 8:49 PM CST reply actions  

Mario Williams please

Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith

by Lissyyyyy on Feb 14, 2012 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

Btw guys

I did a 6 round Dallas Cowboys mock draft using Mocking The Draft’s 6 Rounder from Monday as my template. It followed the similar format to what O.C.C. did yesterday. Please comment and rec if you like it.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/2/14/2797074/rohpuris-spin-on-mtds-latest-mock-draft-cowboys-edition

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

These teams like Spencer because they think he can be had for cheap.

Like on of them says, sign him to a 3Y/13M contract. If the Cowboys did this, it would be a very good deal. Keeping Spencer while grooming a real passrusher to take over the position.

But a 9M franchise tag? No way! Sure you could do it with the intent of trading him, but for that to happen, he would have to agree to a contract with a team. And if you don’t find a trading partner, you are stuck with a bill of 9M.

by PhilipKDick on Feb 15, 2012 3:00 AM CST reply actions  

It would also raise the compensation......

pick if the price increases. All other offsets aside.

They’re going to let him walk, which is the correct policy.

by Cwon1 on Feb 15, 2012 8:05 AM CST up reply actions  

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